Let's do this. Starting with a classic.
>Gene Hackman refused to shave his head or his mustache for the role of Lex Luthor in 1978's "Superman". Director Richard Donner revised the script so Luthor would wear a wig on most of his scenes, and promised to shave his own mustache if Hackman shaved his. Once Hackman arrived on set clean-shaven, Donner pulled off a fake mustache and revealed he never had a mustache at all.
This is one of those stories I've heard about a million times and every time I wonder why it's supposed to be interesting.
>>84242492
Fuckin every time
>>84242528
It's an amusing scenario.
Especially since most people envision Donner peeling off his mustache in an inherently silly overdramatic fashion.
>>84242614
Keikaku doori comes to mind
>After being cast as Jor-El, Superman's father in Richard Donner's 1978 superhero flick, Brando suggested that it might be better if he simply provided the voice of the character. "He suggested—strongly—that Jor-El could be a suitcase or a green bagel that spoke with Brando's voice," producer Ilya Salkind recalled. "I was really young and I was sweating it out. I said 'My God, this is finished, the movie will not happen ... The man will destroy everything. This is impossible. Jor-El will be a bagel.'" Fortunately, Donner stepped in: "Marlon, I think that people want to see Marlon Brando playing Jor-El. They don't want to see a green bagel."
>Brando also refused to learn the lines assigned to him by the script, requiring cue cards to be tapped throughout the Krypton sets and, at one point, in the diapers of the baby playing infant Kal-El.
>>84242492
why would you cast someone in the first place if they didn't.. i mean.. surely that was on the casting call
>male. caucasian. bald.
>Sean Young was cast as Vicki Vale for 1989's "Batman", but was injured while filming a scene where Batman and Vicki fled the Joker's men on horseback, and had to drop out, with Kim Basinger replacing her. Young was adamant she was cast as Catwoman in "Batman Returns", while director Tim Burton was set on Michelle Pfeiffer, who had impressed him with her audition for Vicki in "Batman". Young proceeded to stalk Burton at the studio while wearing a homemade Catwoman costume and, on one occasion, ambushed him in his office and had to be escorted out by security while Burton hid behind his desk, since Young was clumsy whipping at his general direction to prove she could do her own stunts.
>>84242768
Why would he shave his head for a part in a movie?
Why would anybody do anything for a part in a movie? It has to be compelling. There has to be more to it than blandly checking the boxes - it needs a story reason.
The simple fact is, as well-known as Superman was in 1977, they needed Gene Hackman to sell the movie. The guy playing Superman was an unknown, the director was hired because he was award winning, and the script - the original one that Donner was given by Ilya Salkind - was awful. The Salkinds didn't care about the script - they only cared about making money from the movie. Donner's job as director was to basically rewrite the entire thing, get the star on board, and make it work. He regularly argued for more money to make it work; they developed new chroma techniques just for that movie on Donner's say so. The Salkinds paid for it all, and when the first movie was released (with the second not even finished filming), they fired Donner.
Everything was downhill from there, until you reach Superman IV, because so little of it was really about storytelling. It was just a series of bald-headed cameos that meant nothing.
>>84242768
Superhero movies were a massive gamble back then, and Hackman and Keaton had star power. A lot of people turned the movie down.
>The role of Superman in the 1978 movie was intended to be portrayed by an A-lister. Muhammad Ali, Al Pacino, James Caan, Steve McQueen, Clint Eastwood, Dustin Hoffman, Warren Beatty and Robert Redford were all approached by Warner Bros Pictures, but turned down the role.
>Jon Voight and Nick Nolte eventually emerged as the frontrunners, but the studio eventually decided that Voight's portrayal was not right for the movie, while Nolte's demands that the Script was rewritten into a drama, with Clark Kent as a psychiatric ward patient who imagines himself to be a superhero caused the studio to move on without him.
>Arnold Schwarzenegger and Bruce Jenner were both offered the role, and declined to pursue other projects, while Sylvester Stallone, a fan of the comics, lobbied for it. The studio was ready to offer Stallone the part when Brando reminded them that his contract included a clause that allowed him to veto any choice for Superman that he didn't agree it. Irritated by what he perceived as Stallone copying his mannerisms in his performance in "Rocky", Brando vetoed his participation, initiating a minor feud between the two.
>Patrick Wayne, John Wayne's son, was eventually hired to play Superman, but had to drop out due to his father's cancer. After Wayne's departure, Donner decided to have a unknown play Superman, as he believed that this would help people recognize him as a the character rather than an actor dressed as him. With his decision, thousands of young Hollywood actors were screen-tested -- including Ilya Salkind's wife's dentist, which she claimed bore a striking resemblance to the character in the comics. Finally, young Christopher Reeve landed the role after a last-minute screen test, in which he wore George Reeves' old Superman suit, hastily brought out of storage.
>>84242492
Can we get some comic trivia. Why is it also about movie adaptations.
For example one of Supes co-creators drew bdsm porn of Supes and Lois. With Lois topping.are all the creators of my favorite gero secretly freaks
>>84242969
>For example one of Supes co-creators drew bdsm porn of Supes and Lois. With Lois topping.
True or not I could have done without that information.
>>84242764
>>Brando also refused to learn the lines assigned to him by the script, requiring cue cards to be tapped throughout the Krypton sets and, at one point, in the diapers of the baby playing infant Kal-El
Brando did this with every movie though, it was his method.
>>84242969
>>84243077
Joe Schuster, the artist half of the creators of Superman, had to make erotic doodles for Playboy because he couldn't pay his bills otherwise.
He wasn't happy about the job, it wasn't for personal pleasure.
The guy who co-created Superman was basically broke at many points in his life.
>>84242935
>Clark Kent as a psychiatric ward patient who imagines himself to be a superhero
Some of these ideas man...
Was Hollywood always quite this dumb? Suddenly Sony and WB's recent missteps have new and distressing context.
>>84243187
>Forced to prostitute your own creation and the hero of children because you're so broke.
This story just keeps getting more and more depressing.
>Tim Burton's BATMAN 3 would've featured the Riddler as a serial killer with a question mark tattooed on his forehead who plays mind games with Batman, and Robin as a wisecracking, street-smart mechanic who joins Batman after fixing the Batmobile during an chase. Robin Williams was in talks to play the Riddler, while Marlon Wayans had been cast as Robin. Rene Russo was also cast as Batman's love interest Chase Meridian.
>When Burton dropped out, so did Williams and Michael Keaton, and Jim Carrey and Val Kilmer were cast instead. Director Joel Schumacher wanted to use Robin and Two-Face, forcing WB to buy Wayans and Billy Dee Williams out of their contracts so Schumacher could cast Chris O'Donnell and Tommy Lee Jones. Russo was also dropped as producers felt she was too old for Kilmer and Nicole Kidman was cast. Wayans receives residuals from WB to this day.
>Also Schumacher planned a fifth Batman movie featuring Nicolas Cage as the Scarecrow, Madonna as Harley Quinn, who'd be the Joker's daughter, Jack Nicholson back in a cameo as the demon Joker, and in later versions of the draft, Terrence Stamp as Man-Bat.
>>84242914
>Why would anybody do anything for a part in a movie? It has to be compelling. There has to be more to it than blandly checking the boxes - it needs a story reason.
Well on the directors/producers side, they want someone who looks like the part, and can act like the part. You can tilt that balance in either direction depending on whether the looks or the performance of the character is more important: for ex. you could get Schwarzenegger to play Conan because the characters signature feature is that he is a giant muscular barbarian.
Lex Luthor on the other hand can't be done on looks alone, since he is an evil genius.
And on the actors side, they have to change their appearance either because they WANT the role, or because they cannot get the role if they don't look the part. Christian Bale got completely thin and then bulked up in a few months because he had to do two movies that required both.
Obviously, if the directors/producers specifically want a certain actor, then the actor has more leverage on how much they are willing to change their looks. Especially so for big name characters.
>>84243276
>Marlon Wayans had been cast as Robin
I can just imagine Shorty from Scary Movie dressed up as Robin.
>>84243226
>Some of these ideas man...
>Was Hollywood always quite this dumb?
Anon was wrong, Nick Nolte wanted Clark Kent to be a janitor who daydreams of being a Superman.
He wanted it to be a comedy, not a drama.
>>84243276
L>>Also Schumacher planned a fifth Batman movie featuring Nicolas Cage as the Scarecrow, Madonna as Harley Quinn, who'd be the Joker's daughter, Jack Nicholson back in a cameo as the demon Joker, and in later versions of the draft, Terrence Stamp as Man-Bat.
I always wanted to see this. I bet that Schumacher Harley would have been better than Ayer Harley, at least costume wise
>>84242969
DeCarlo, the artist for Archie and Betty and Veronica, was harassed by the CCA so much for drawing the girls clothes too risqué that eventually he would just draw the girls outfits once for reference and then draw them naked for the rest of the issue and have the colorists fill it in later.
>>84243364
I'm not sure that makes it any better whatsoever.
So many of these movie assholes get it into their head that they should do a "bold" re-imagining of a beloved IP, because "we've seen the story so many times before" but no. We haven't. We've read the story before but we haven't seen it in a movie.
Give us a fucking good Superman movie Hollywood. Then you can do all the grimdark reimaginings that you want of the character as a lightspeed rapist or a guy who squishes terrorists with the moon.
>>84243316
>, they want someone who looks like the part, and can act like the part.
No, they didn't. That's exactly the point. And more to the point, no, they don't. Nobody cares whether they're 100% faithful to source or not; if it happens it's a happy accident.
>on the actors side, they have to change their appearance either because they WANT the role, or because they cannot get the role if they don't look the part
Again, you've misunderstood: they NEEDED Gene Hackman's name to sell the feature to the public. They needed someone with his talent and reputation. If they'd just needed a bald guy to overact in a fake subway station they'd have hired Telly Savalas. The thing was all on his side; Donner had nothing to offer but more money, and even that wasn't enough to get Hackman to shave his head.
>Schwarzenegger to play Conan
This is the opposite: they cast a nobody because he looked the part, not because he would sell the movie to audiences. He couldn't act, but he looked the part, and the film was a surprise hit. At the time he was cast, he'd been in enough that they knew he could find his way around a set, but not so much that he cost real money or would complain about his role.
>>84243421
>DeCarlo, the artist for Archie and Betty and Veronica, was harassed by the CCA so much for drawing the girls clothes too risqué that eventually he would just draw the girls outfits once for reference and then draw them naked for the rest of the issue and have the colorists fill it in later.
Noice. I bet there's some of those pages laying around some of those colorists/ex-colorists house
>>84243226
>Was Hollywood always quite this dumb
People. Are. Dumb.
>In the 1980's, Cannon Films was producing a SPIDER-MAN movie directed by Joseph Zito and starring stuntman Scott Leva. After unexpected budget cuts made it impossible for them to afford the costly webswinging scenes, the script was revised so Spider-Man only swings once before determining it is "too difficult" and spends the rest of the movie hitching rides with other characters. A pivotal scene involves Spider-Man and an original character, Professor Roz, trying to catch up to the villainous Doctor Octopus while both parties are stuck in a traffic jam on the Brooklyn Bridge.
>During production of Man of Steel, the team realized that instead of making a Superman film, they had actually made a western adaptation of the first two arcs from Dragonball and Dragonball Z respectively. They never bothered to change the script and went on as if nothing had happened.
The head judge of the CCA told the heads EC Comics that they couldn't have a character be black. Their response was "fuck you" and slamming the phone.
Wally Wood, creator of 22 Panels That Always Work and the artist that made Daredevil popular, died penniless in a one room apartment.
>>84243749
>Wally Wood, creator of 22 Panels That Always Work and the artist that made Daredevil popular, died penniless in a one room apartment.
That Tesla life
>>84243226
These ideas aren't dumb, they're just really different from the source material.
you're dumb.
>>84243616
Lel
>>84243449
>Give us a fucking good Superman movie Hollywood
We have plenty.
>>84243819
We have two.
That's nice, but I'd like something new.
>>84243276
Someday I will find the reality where this happened. The sky may be fire and the oceans nothing more than an unending swarm of flesh eating locusts, but I'll still visit just to find that DVD.
what was the name of that cartoon that got canned because of 9/11 ?
>>84242969
I've got the hardcover collection of that art as a coffee table book. It's a great conversation piece.
Hollywood made me sad today.
i am surprised they never thought of a Plasticman movie back when Jhonny Knoxville was still young
>>84243187
>when real life is darker than any of Snyder's weird fanfics
pls no
>>84243923
(as a kinkster, I find that exploitative and offensive)
If you need conversation starters that badly, why not tape a Brando cue card onto the forehead of whoever you're talking to?
>Brian Michael Bendis was invited to contribute to the dialogue of SPIDER-MAN (2002). Producers were offended by a quip written for Spider-Man, in which he mocks the Green Goblin's suit, defending that "that suit was really expensive". None of Bendis' dialogue was used in the movie.
>>84243995
Oh, I'm a kinkster, too. But it makes a good segue into my "fuck Bob Kane" rant.
>>84243965
>In 1998, Andy and Larry Wachowski were slated to write and direct an adaption of DC Comics' PLASTIC MAN, produced by Joel Silver and starring Keanu Reeves as Daniel O'Brien, an environmentalist who develops body-warping abilities after accidentally being exposed to an experimental polymerization process. Warner Bros Pictures scrapped the movie due to high budget require to convey Plastic Man's powers, and Silver instead greenlit another movie written/directed by the Wachowskis, which turned out to be THE MATRIX and went on to star Keanu Reeves.
>>84243187
>acting like doing illustrations for Playboy is not one of the best paying art jobs
Jack Cole probably made more drawing a few years' worth of pin-ups than ten years in comics.
>>84243749
>>84243783
Wally was also an alcoholic.
was it true that Spielberg was angry at Tartakovsky cause his clone wars was really good?
The casts of several scrapped superhero movies over the years.
Tim Burton's "Superman Lives" (1998)
>Nicolas Cage as Clark Kent / Superman
>Courtney Cox as Lois Lane
>Chris Rock as Jimmy Olsen
>John Mahooney as Perry White
>Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor
>Tim Allen as Brainiac
McG's "Superman: Flyby" (2003)
>Henry Cavill as Clark Kent / Superman
>Scarlett Johansson as Lois Lane
>Shia LaBeouf as Jimmy Olsen
>Christopher Walken as Perry White
>Robert Downey Jr. as Lex Luthor
>Anthony Hopkins as Jor-El
>Joel Edgerton as Ty-Zor, Superman's evil brother
George Miller's "Justice League: Mortal" (2007)
>D.J. Cotrona as Clark Kent / Superman
>Armie Hammer as Bruce Wayne / Batman
>Megan Gale as Diana / Wonder Woman
>Santiago Cabrera as Arthur / Aquaman
>Adam Brody as Barry Allen / Flash
>Anton Yelchin as Wally West / Kid Flash
>Common as John Stewart / Green Lantern
>Hugh Keays Byrne as J'onn J'onzz
>Teresa Palmer as Talia Al Ghul
>Jay Baruchel as Maxwell Lord
>Stephen Tobolowsky as Alfred Pennyworth
>Zoe Kazan as Iris West
>Sandra Bullock as Donna Troy / Wonder Woman in 1999
>Shannyn Sossamon as Diana / Wonder Woman in 2005
>Ryan Reynolds as Wally West / Flash in 2006
>Jack Black as Jud Plato / Green Lantern in 2002
>Keannu Reeves as Danny O'Brien / Plastic Man in 1998
>Arnold Schwarzenegger as Sgt. Rock in 1992
>Dwayne Johnson as Lobo in 2009
>>84242935
>while Nolte's demands that the Script was rewritten into a drama, with Clark Kent as a psychiatric ward patient who imagines himself to be a superhero caused the studio to move on without him.
Informed by Nick Nolte's own reality of being a psychiatric war patient imagining himself to be an actor, I guess.
>>84244114
So much so that it caused his failing failing liver which was slowly killing him. That coupled with the blindness he had following a stroke lead to his suicide. Shortly before his death he was asked how felt about his time in the industry. His response: "If I had it all to do over again, I'd cut off my hands."
>>84244237
that flyby casting doesn't sound half bad
i'd watch it
>>84243571
Fuck, I'm glad this died before Peter Parker became the Sensational Taxi Fare.
During an interview with the Onion's AV Club, Patton Oswalt described some of the troubles in making Blade: Trinity, centering around Blade himself, Wesley Snipes.
>When not on set, Snipes spent all day in his trailer smoking weed.
>During a club scene where the extras were allowed to bring their own clothes, one of the few black extras wore a shirt with the word 'Garbage' on it in stylish letters. Snipes flipped out at director David Goyer, calling him a 'racist motherfucker' and attempted to strangle him
>After Snipes tried to strangle Goyer, the director got a gang of bikers to come to the set the next day, frightening Snipes enough that he would only communicate with Goyer through post-it notes afterwards, all of them signed 'From Blade'.
>When Wesley refused to come to the set many times, his lines were given to Ryan Reynolds, cutting to a close-up of a stone-faced Blade in the movie after each joke. When Snipes threatened to leave the movie, Goyer told him to go ahead, since they'd already shot all of his close-ups and could use his stand-in for the rest.
>Snipes is notoriously difficult to work with. During filming of Blade, when Blade is suppose to wake up, Snipes refused to open his eyes, forcing them to be added in post-production. When asked why, the only answer was, "He just wouldn't."
Joseph Zito's "Spider-Man" (1987)
>Scott Leva as Peter Parker / Spider-Man
>Bob Hoskins as Otto Octavius / Doctor Octopus
>Lauren Bacall as Aunt May
>Stan Lee as J. Jonah Jameson
>Peter Cushing as Professor Albert Rosomorf
>Albert Caesar as Detective Jake Marotta.
James Cameron's "Spider-Man" (1997)
>Leonardo DiCaprio as Peter Parker / Spider-Man
>Gloria Stuart as Aunt May
Nick Cassevetes' "Iron Man" (2003)
>Tom Cruise as Tony Stark / Iron Man
>Jamie Foxx as James Rhodes
>Famke Janssen as Bethany Cabe
>George Clooney as Nick Fury
Peyton Reed's "Fantastic Four" (2002)
>Alexis Denisof as Reed Richards / Mister Fantastic
>Charlize Theron as Sue Storm / Invisible Woman
>Paul Walker as Johnny Storm / Human Torch
>John C. Reilly as Ben Grimm / The Thing
>Jude Law as Victor Von Doom / Doctor Doom
>Edward Norton as Matt Murdock / Daredevil in 1999
>Johnny Depp as Johnny Blaze / Ghost Rider in 2001
>Bob Hoskins as Logan / Wolverine in 1992
>Wesley Snipes as Luke Cage in 1998 AND T'Challa / Black Panther from 1993 onwards
>Ray Park as Danny Rand / Iron Fist in 2002
>>84244476
But anon,
>Ty-Zor, Superman's evil brother
>>84244237
>Ty-Zor
That's not how kryptonian names work.
>>84244526
>When asked why, the only answer was, "He just wouldn't."
Wait is this someone being asked and explaining that Snipes wouldn't, or is this Snipes being asked and responding that Blade wouldn't?
>>84244476
The plot was bananas, though.
>Krypton doesn't explode
>Superman is the "chosen one" prophetized to defeat the greatest evil in the Universe
>Jor-El is a tyrannical dictator and murders Lara when she sends Kal-El to Earth to prevent Jor-El from killing him
>Jor-El then sends his illegitimate son Ty-Zor to kill Kal-El
>Lex Luthor is a Kryptonian spy masquerading as a CIA agent
>The Kents' landlord tries to rape Martha
>>84244552
Didn't notice that, fucking hell.
Deviantart OC right here.
>>84244022
Brian Michael Bendis wrote the storyline for all the Marvel sets in Disney Infinity 2.0.
>>84244611
Someone really, REALLY needs to cut off Hollywood's cocaine supply.
>>84244611
>that everything
>Will Smith was offered the role of Superman at some point, but declined because he knew people would complain about a black Superman
>Tobey Maguire got injured shooting Seabiscuit and demanded shooting of Spider-Man 2 be delayed to accomodate his recovery. But he was reportedly a total cunt about it, and Sony was ready to drop him and get Jake Gyllenhall as Peter when Maguire backtracked and they reached a compromise
>Tommy Lee Jones FUCKING HATED Jim Carrey on Batman Forever and repeteadly told Carrey "I hate you, I can't sanction your buffonery".
>Charlie Sheen lobbied for the role of Spider-Man in the 80's.
>Paul Bettany and Hugh Jackman very nearly played the Joker and Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight.
>In addition to Lex Luthor, RDJ almost played the lead villain in a short-lived live-action Deathlok movie slated for 2007
>Bradley Cooper was the runner-up to play Green Lantern in 2011, but lost the role because he didn't take the audition seriously and kept doing Christian Bale's raspy Bat-voice.
>There almost was a comedy Green Lantern movie starring Jack Black and David Spade in 2003
>There almost was a comedy Hulk movie starring Adam Sandler and Jim Carrey in 1996
>There almost was a comedy Aquaman movie starring Mark Wahlberg in 2004
>Gal Gadot and Jason Momoa almost played Nebula and Drax in Guardians of the Galaxy before jumping ship to the DCEU
>Christopher Nolan wanted to cast Joshua Jackson as Batman in Batman Begins, but WB refused because they had already cast Katie Holmes as Rachel and people would make Dawson's Creek jokes if Jackson had been cast
>Henry Cavill lost the roles of Batman, Superman, James Bond, Edward Cullen and Cedric in the Harry Potter series before landing Superman.
>Amy Adams was the Rachel stand-in during the audition rounds for Batman Begins, but the studio cast Katie Holmes in the actual movie because she was more famous
>>84244552
i recall back when Kim Possible was popular (06/07) there were plans for a live action movie.
Same with WITCH due to its popularity in Europe. but in the end nothing happened.
When Smallville ended, WB wanted a show about Raven, Rachel Roth, in highschool. Dealing with teenage shit by day, and fighting demons by night
>>84244991
Fighting evil by moonlight, as it were.
>Fox got pissed Bryan Singer was trying to lure most of the X-Men cast to Superman Returns. In addition to James Marsden, who played Lois' husband Richard, Singer also wanted Shawn Ashmore (Iceman) as Jimmy Olsen, Hugh Jackman as Pa Kent in a flashback sequence and Famke Janssen as Lara in a hologram sequence.
>There was a proposed draft of Superman III where Superman falls in love with Supergirl (not his cousin) after Lois Lane dumps him and moves to China, and has to compete for her affections in a jousting duel against her adoptive father Brainiac, and Mr. Mxyzptlk is there too
>The 1990 Flash TV show started out as a project called "Superpowers", about the Flash getting stranded in a post-apocalyptic future and joining forces with the Green Arrow's daughter, Doctor Occult and Blok from the Legion of Superheroes to save history, but it was way too expensive.
>Smallville started out as a project called "The Young Bruce Wayne", which would detail Bruce's journey to becoming Batman after returning to Gotham from his trip around the world. It was scrapped because Batman Begins was in production, and they applied the idea to Superman instead
>Darren Aronofsky was going to direct an R-rated Batman: Year One movie starring Christian Bale in which Batman is a psychotic auto-mechanic who lives in the slums and becomes a vigilante who brands people with a bat-shaped ring, and Alfred is a street-smart black auto-mechanic called Little Al played by Morgan Freeman. Kurt Russell was supposed to be Jim Gordon.
>>84244543
>>John C. Reilly as Ben Grimm / The Thing
god damn fucking perfect
>>84244552
>>84244629
Nah man, fuck that, give me the family bonding antics of Kal-El and Ty-Zor. I want Ty-Zor angsty and brooding while Clark drags him around Metropolis trying to have fun.
>>84245058
>Singer also wanted Shawn Ashmore (Iceman) as Jimmy Olsen
Well shit, that basically happened on Smallville.
>>84245098
I dunno, man. Michael Chiklis was pretty great, whatever problems those movies had.
>>84245058
>Darren Aronofsky was going to direct an R-rated Batman: Year One movie starring Christian Bale in which Batman is a psychotic auto-mechanic who lives in the slums and becomes a vigilante who brands people with a bat-shaped ring, and Alfred is a street-smart black auto-mechanic called Little Al played by Morgan Freeman. Kurt Russell was supposed to be Jim Gordon.
Holy fuck
>>84244991
speaking of W.I.T.C.H
Shit was originally planned to be much shorter like 15 to 20 volumes. Also, dealing with slightly grimmier teenage shit.
Elleon was supposed to be the final boss
When the people in charge of Disney Italy saw the thing was macking money, they took over and forced some changes, and kept the comic going until 2013
>>84245165
>Shawn Ashmore isn't Aaron Ashmore and vice versa
How did I never know this?
>>84245197
i agree. the first 20 minutes of the silver surfer movie was pretty great to
>military dad shows reed pic of what they think is meteor
>reeds all i don't know man
>hands it off to Ben because he trusts his knowledge cuz Ben's a fucking Astronaut
Did you know... In the Dark Knight, Christian Bale plays not only Batman, but also bit-character "Bruce Wayne," billionaire playboy
>>84245306
Dude no way!
>>84245237
Twins, bruh.
>>84245036
>>84245036
WHEN IN LOVE BY DAYLIGHT
>>84245706
It's "winning love" you meatball head
>>84244526
Oh my goodness. David Goyer is amazing if this is true.
>>84243749
Specifically he committed suicide.
He had a lot of mental health problems throughout his adult life. Plus he had chronic migraines, three failed marriages, and kidney problems due to his alcoholism.
IMO pretty serious candidate for greatest of his generation though, even held up against Kirby, Ditko, Eisner, etc. As a technical draftsmen he was better than all of them and he was an excellent cartoonist as well.
>>84242492
Donner should have cast himself as Luthor, the absolute madman
>>84244893
>Will Smith was offered the role of Superman at some point, but declined because he knew people would complain about a black Superman
He's not wrong.
>Amy Adams was the Rachel stand-in during the audition rounds for Batman Begins, but the studio cast Katie Holmes in the actual movie because she was more famous
She also auditioned for Lois Lane before too, right? Does Amy Adams like comics?
>>84246219
>draftsmen
>>84244893
> Tobey Maguire got injured shooting Seabiscuit and demanded shooting of Spider-Man 2 be delayed to accomodate his recovery. But he was reportedly a total cunt about it, and Sony was ready to drop him and get Jake Gyllenhall as Peter when Maguire backtracked and they reached a compromise
> There almost was a comedy Aquaman movie starring Mark Wahlberg in 2004
Both of these sort of get nods in the HBO series Entourage. The main character of the show, Vincent Chase, is based on Mark Wahlberg, and gets cast to play Aquaman. Later in the series, Chase is a bitch about the sequel, and the role is recast with Jake Gyllenhal in his place.
>>84246347
I can't source, but I think I remember hearing somewhere she actually is somewhat dorky
>>84246374
MEME SQUAD
AUTISTS UNITE
I can't wait for Geoff Johns to join the fray.
"Okay but what if we have a scene where the Justice League is eating cereal?"
>>84242492
Mark Millar licks goats
>>84246487
Seems about right.
>>84246487
Wh-what?
>>84243470
There a hundreds of them. Read DeCarlo's book (or is it his Biography?). It's mostly about his artwork. It includes some test pages for a Penthouse rip off of Playboy's Little Annie Fanny. The guy had sex on the brain and damn sure knew how to draw pinups.
>>84244526
>black extras wore a shirt with the word 'Garbage' on it in stylish letters. Snipes flipped out at director David Goyer, calling him a 'racist motherfucker' and attempted to strangle him
>>84244526
>Not posting the entire thing.
>>84245058
>Alfred is a street-smart black auto-mechanic called Little Al
>>84245211
Look up Tom Mankiewicz's Batman screenplay. Elements of it easily were used throughout the 90s series, especially Returns.
>>84242935
>Muhammad Ali
whoa
>>84247599
>>84244893
>Henry Cavill lost the roles of Batman, Superman, James Bond, Edward Cullen and Cedric in the Harry Potter series before landing Superman.
>Henry Cavill lost the roles of Batman, Superman
>before landing Superman.
wait, what?
>>84243276
>Nick Cage Scarecrow
I never realized I wanted this
Robin Williams as Riddler is also interesting. he did it almost never but he was good at playing psychotic villains.
>>84242935
>while Nolte's demands that the Script was rewritten into a drama, with Clark Kent as a psychiatric ward patient who imagines himself to be a superhero caused the studio to move on without him.
I would have watched it.
>>84247760
Do you really think if Ron Perlman had told a kid with cancer he was going to hell because of his gay parents the first place you'd hear about it was on /co/?
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ron-perlman-make-wish-hellboy-346196
>>84247760
It's not true, don't worryR...right guys?
>>84247783
Probably the scrapped Superman: Flyby that became Superman Returns. Don't know about Batman though, JL: Mortal maybe?
And he lost the Bond role to Daniel Craig in Casino Royale
>>84247634
I never got the confusion of this joke. Cows are not humans, thus their tools would be different from human tools.
>>84244893
> "I can't sanction your buffoonery"
Every fucking time.
>>84245098
Riley is one of my favourite actors but I don't know if he's physically imposing enough to be the Thing
>>84243276
>Robin as a wisecracking, street-smart mechanic who joins Batman after fixing the Batmobile during an chase.
To be far this isn't too far away from Jason Todd's introduction. I can see the logic.
>>84248463
HOW IS THAT A JOKE?
>>84249076
That's the thing. In the "Prehistory of the Far Side" he talks about how he was just sketching some crude tools as a reference to other tool using animals, and thinking 'cow tools would be really crude'. And everyone went nuts trying to decode the joke.
I saw Grant Morrison at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any dimensional infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
>>84244022
>FINISH IT
>Finish what?
>What?
>Huh?
>J-just, ya know... finish it.
>Finish what?
>Your prayer.
>My prayer?
>Yeah your prayer.
>That prayer?
>Yeah the prayer you were saying when I came crashing through your window.
>The Lord's Prayer? Is that the prayer we're talking about?
>I don't know about multiple Lord's Prayers out there so yeah.
>Oh okay.
>Hmmh.
>FROM... EVIL!
>Nice.
>Yeah thanks.
Really elevated Koepp's workmanlike dialogue to Mamet tier brilliance, I can't believe the fools cut it out.
>>84244222
No. Lucas originally wanted the Clone Wars shorts to be like only a minute long and with no ongoing storyline. He relented when Tartakovsky came on board purely because he loves Samurai Jack. He also allowed Tartakovsky to make Season 2 shorts longer and more interconnected. I'm not saying he was thrilled with the end product, or that he didn't think he could do better, or that CGI Clone Wars was closer to his own personal vision than Tartakovsky's, but Lucas loves (or did love) Genndy's work, and he respected his skills as an artist enough to allow him to make his own unique take on characters Lucas created.
Lucas has made plenty of terrible decisions in his career, allowing Tartakovsky's absolute creative freedom was not one of them, and it's not something he should be criticized for on the perceived notions of the two separate fanbases of each show.
>>84243276
>Marlon Wayans Robin
>Nicolas Cafe Scarecrow
>Robin Williams Riddler
What the hell, this Earth sucks.
>>84244068
The script is online too, I've been meaning to read it
Wonder how many other failed movie scripts are online, could be some interesting reads
Why isn't there a YouTube channel about this
>>84249370
This pasta reads great to the tune of "institutionalized" by suicidal tendencies
>>84248004
Pretty obviously not true. I feel like there would be more than one recounting on 4chan if he was that seriously anti-gay.
>>84243452
>If they'd just needed a bald guy to overact in a fake subway station they'd have hired Telly Savalas
Okay, I never believed in the mandela effect before, but all my life I remembered Savalas as Lex Luthor in Superman. Jesus christ, I will never make fun of /x/ ever again.
>>84250052
Probably because of DCAU Lex. Or you're a latent survivor of a multiversal crisis.
>>84250163
I feel a little ashamed, because I used to ridicule these people. The thing is, not only I remember Savalas as Lex, but also with red curly hair. He got bold later, but in first movie, he still had hair.
>>84248333
How come Cavill always looks like he's posing for the cover of a romance novel?
>>84247422
>Wesley Snipes had a chance to kill David Goyer
>He didn't take it
>>84247630
That could have been a real interesting movie if they followed through with the "how would people react to a black superman" and didn't ignore him being black.
>>84243819
>>84243901
Superman 1 and Superman 2?
>>84250189
Yeah, that's what happened to Hackman's Lex. He was revealed to be bald by the end of the movie.
>>84244572
Someone else was telling the story. Interviewer asked why he wouldn't, they said, "he just wouldn't."
>>84250257
>A Superman movie
>But Superman is Black
>And it's about Superman being Black
Wow I've never wanted anything less.
>>84243187
That's kind of sad I love me some playboy art but that's really depressing
>>84250320
OK, because I heard another story where due to Snipes method acting he will sometimes speak in third person when his character can't answer something. Then again it might have been the first Rhodey who that was about, there's a mess of hearsay on actors in my head.
>>84250256
We just need to sic him on him again.
We'll need blank white T-Shirts, a few dozen black volunteers and some sharpies.
>>84243276
>Harley Quinn, who'd be the Joker's daughter
Oh god most of that sounds neat but that's somehow worse then what there doing to her in the comics right now
>>84250327
It would be better than to just write a Superman movie and use a black actor and just ignore it, no?
As much as I'm not interested in a movie focused around "Superman being black", we can't say if Kryptonians had dark skin it wouldn't change the Superman story.
It would be very "elseworlds" and not a clear, straight Superman movie though.
>>84243449
This
You don't need to have grim takes on Superman because we already have those in comics the movies should represent what he is most of the time
>>84250256
that would be theGoyestthing to do
David Fincher's Spider-Man
>“My impression what Spider-Man could be is very different from what Sam [Raimi] did or what Sam wanted to do. I think the reason he directed that movie was because he wanted to do the Marvel comic superhero. I was never interested in the genesis story. I couldn’t get past a guy getting bit by a red and blue spider. It was just a problem… It was not something that I felt I could do straight-faced. I wanted to start with Gwen Stacy and the Green Goblin, and I wanted to kill Gwen Stacy.”
>“The title sequence of the movie that I was going to do was going to be a ten minute — basically a music video, an opera, which was going to be the one shot that took you through the entire Peter Parker [backstory]. Bit by a radio active spider, the death of Uncle Ben, the loss of Mary Jane, and [then the movie] was going to begin with Peter meeting Gwen Stacy. It was a very different thing, it wasn’t the teenager story. It was much more of the guy who’s settled into being a freak.”
>>84243470
Anybody got the original of the killing joke photo scene with the one larger photo with the nipples. I really hope they use that in the movie instead of what went to print.
I'm not optimistic about the movie in general because they are marketing it as shocking but at the very least between that marketing and the r rating we have a good chance of getting that scene as originally intended.
I just hope they don't go full retard and listen to those faggots who claim joker raped her.
>>84243749
That reminds me I need to read that seduction of the innocent murder mystery book I got from the library
Well audiobook they dident have a print copy
>>84243922
So many fucking things got cut after that I dont know of any that got outright canceled though I am interested to see what this was
>>84244035
Man Bob Kane really was a massive arsehole
>>84244022
I'm not sure if I should be glad it got cut or angry those executives were so fucking petty
How much did the suit cost them
>>84249618
Interesting
>>84244237
>Common as John Stewart / Green Lantern
Did you miss a word there?
>>84245058
>Darren Aronofsky was going to direct an R-rated Batman: Year One movie starring Christian Bale in which Batman is a psychotic auto-mechanic who lives in the slums and becomes a vigilante who brands people with a bat-shaped ring, and Alfred is a street-smart black auto-mechanic called Little Al played by Morgan Freeman. Kurt Russell was supposed to be Jim Gordon.
I don't auctualy hate this even the branding (not defending the branding in BvS though)
>>84247599
Jesus fuck man I bet even most homophobes would call him an arsehole for that.
>>84242935
Muhammad Ali playing Superman instead of Christopher Reeve? Wow, that would have been extremely controversial and progressive for that decade. Or now, for that matter.
>>84250327
I feel it could work as a comic if done well (although it would be easy to fuck it up you want a team of writers on this one)
But it's just not worth using movie resources that could be getting used to make a more traditional Superman story
>>84247760
>>84250547
Are you daft.
>>84247634
He regretted making one look like a real tool, a saw, because it meant for years people have tried to guess what the others were
>>84242764
>The man will destroy everything. This is impossible. Jor-El will be a bagel.
That is incredible
>>84247599
LOL
>>84250462
No it's the rapper whose name is Common
>>84250642
Ah I see
>>84244611
Could easily turn that into a New Gods movie with Orion
>>84246347
>>84246374
She was in Smallville too
>>84250575
As a comic it's Blue Marvel.
That's literally his bit.
He's Black Superman, but nobody can handle a Black Superman so they tell him to go away, and he does, and everyone kinda forgets about him.
>>84250697
Hm I will check that out
>>84250724
Hm 2008 might have just managed to dodge the sjwification of marvel so it could be good
>>84243908
It will still be the wrong region.
>>84250731
I just read the first issue of this and holy shit it's really good why can't marvel handle this sort of stuff as well as they do here and in ms marvel in all there comics
>>84244222
wouldn't surprise me. This is the same guy who wanted an American kid to play Harry Potter. Now on the face of it I find nothing wrong with that but he introduces the kid to Rowling and she says "No I want a British boy to play Harry Potter." And he quits when she won't budge from that.
>>84244893
>>Charlie Sheen lobbied for the role of Spider-Man in the 80's.
I would've watched it.
>>84250852
They really badly fucked the pacing towards the end of issue 3 should have made it a 6 parter
>>84250551
Maybe even more so now. Just imagine how the internet would react if they were told that Superman would be played by a black muslim.
>>84251038I get what they were trying to do with the x-men comparison but every time the double standard is mentioned it gets harder and harder to ignore how fucking retarded it is.
I really like the characterisation on blue marvel himself
>>84251039
"My father was convinced that the world was not ready for a black Superman. He was right."
>>84251132
The plot is starting to fall apart a little it's like they forgot the order of all the events.
>>84242935
>Nolte's demands that the Script was rewritten into a drama, with Clark Kent as a psychiatric ward patient who imagines himself to be a superhero
Reminder that this was an episode of Smallville.
>>84251038
The pacing in general has gotten really fast but it mostly worked its just issue 3 that had problems issue 4s fast pace was fine
I wonder what this last issue will be like
>>84251169
Best theory I can come up with isthat another agency knew his identity before the stuff with anti man only possible explanation for how he could have been the godfather. Maybe if I go back and check the dates again it will make sense
>>84242838
>Burton hid behind his desk
>>84251193
Never watched Smallville. Details?
>>84243922
Constant Payne
>>84251232
I only vaguely remember it and I could be completely wrong but it was like that Liam Neeson movie where they try to convince him his whole life was a lie.
>>84251198
Ok that was a pretty good comic the racial stuff was handled fairly well but the plot fell apart at times.the avengers dialogue dident match up with adams though it's like they were talking to somebody else entirely they implied that he was saying things because he had a persecution complex but his lines were pretty much about him not having one
>>84250052
>>84250163
>>84250189
>>84250312
They had at one point written a scene for the first Superman movie - where Superman is looking all over Metropolis for Lex Luthor's hideout - that would have included Telly Savalas in his Kojak persona being accidentally accosted by Superman (because they're both bald men).
Telly Savalas' brother George is also an actor (though he doesn't have red hair, it is curly), so it's possible you're remembering him from a Kojak in which they both appeared, and also it's possible that there was a Kojak (or other Telly Savalas production) where he did indeed wear a wig as you describe. It's hard to know decades later what we saw at all, let alone what the details were.
On the other hand, Telly Savalas once got a dollar from a ghost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axdkv0_kJZQ
>>84246487
I don't know why I'm laughing so hard at what this picture is trying to imply.
>>84249370
>“to prevent any dimensional infetterence,”
Sounds like Morrison.
>>84251232
>>84251301
Episode was called Labyrinth.
>Clark is attacked and wakes up in a mental asylum where the attending physician, Dr. Hudson, tells him he has been there for five years due to his elaborate fantasy that he has alien superpowers.
>>84251627
Thanks, buddy. I'll be sure to check it out when I have a chance.
>>84244543
>Paul Walker as Johnny Storm/ Human Torch
Kek
>>84244237
>Jack Black as Jud Plato/Green Lantern
Wut
>>84242614
Also, how long was Richard Donner supposed to be wearing this fake mustache for?
Most people don't know this, but
Your waifu is shit.
>>84243995
>REEEE DONT TOUCH MY HOBBIES
Fuck off with that shit. You're literally saying you have a problem with a perfectly healthy and open viewpoint? How dare that Anon find cultural creative history interesting. As a "kinkster" you should be happy someone is willing to engage your lifestyle in a lighthearted and inquisitive manor, open to conversation. Instead of being offended that anyone dare wiggle their toes like they might accidentally step on the cusp of your precious "lifestyle".
>>84244543
>1987 Stan Lee cameos as J Jonah Jameson
Perfect
>>84244543
>1997
>Leonardo DiCaprio as Peter Parker / Spider-Man
>>84251768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KUKaVAhuDo
>>84243276
Why does every Batman movie have a love interest? I know that there's stuff with him and Catwoman and Talia, but romance has never been a part of Batman's world as it is for, say,Superman or Spider-Man
>>84250551
It would have been depressing. Ali was past his prime, and the Parkinson was developing already.
>>84242492
This is one of the weirdest fucking things about those movies to me. If an actor refuses to look like a character, why are you using that actor?
>>84242838
>filming a scene where Batman and Vicki fled the Joker's men on horseback
lolwut
>>84252001
To keep men buying into the vaginaljew. "Hey look goyim, Batman has time to wine and dine a women, so should you".
>>84249370
>Milky Way bars
>Grant Morrison
Always so meta
>>84245211
>>84250508
I don't like how the ring thing is basically ripped off 1:1 from The Phantom, but at least they know enough about comics to actually rip off The Phantom of all characters.
>>84252001
I was just watching Mystery of the Batwoman and thought Bruce was smartly leading a lead on, but nope he actually apparently has affections for the daughter of a criminal and drive off with her in the end.
I think they just wanted to give her a good end since Batman didn't seem particularly concerned with her safety during the big explosive finale but it still left me baffled. By Batman Beyond she's nowhere on his list of lost loves so they might as well have faked her death or threw some other playboy at her. I don't get what I was supposed to take from it.
This was right off the heels of Mask of the Phantasm and Subzero too where the tragedy of the failed romance at least felt involved and like something was lost. In fact technically Andrea is this girl done much better now that I think about it.
>>84252001
Studio execs still believe women won't see a movie without any romance.
>>84252384
>Andrea
I still think she deserves more involvement in the Bat mythos. It's certainly a more interesting romance than whatever Talia turned into.
>>84242528
Because it's fucking hilarious
>actor is being a faggot drama queen
>go along with them and sympathize
>trick the shit out of them to get what you want
>>84245058
>>84245211
>>84250508
To add onto this. Frank Miller talked about it.
>It was the first time I worked on a Batman project with somebody whose vision of Batman was darker than mine. My Batman was too nice for him. We would argue about it, and I'd say, "Batman wouldn't do that, he wouldn't torture anybody," and so on. We hashed out a screenplay, and we were wonderfully compensated, but then Warner Bros. read it and said, "We don't want to make this movie." The executive wanted to do a Batman he could take his kids to. And this wasn't that. It didn't have the toys in it. The Batmobile was just a tricked-out car. And Batman turned his back on his fortune to live a street life so he could know what people were going through. He built his own Batcave in an abandoned part of the subway. And he created Batman out of whole cloth to fight crime and a corrupt police force.
>>84243226
That's not a bad idea. It's just not an idea for a Superman's movie.
>>84250397
Kinda curious about this, because part of me wants to see it.
>>84242935
>Muhammad Ali
Full fucking circle.
>>84250551
It'd definitely be more progressive if it happened now, it'd be the first dead actor in a leading role.
>>84250551
It'd be hypocritical if he played the role, he was against interracial relationships at the time. All I would see is hypocrisy every time he's next to Lois Lane.
>>84253102
What if Lois was also black?
>>84251778
Gene Hackman had never met him, so I would guess maybe a couple of hours.
>>84253123
How would that change things?
>>84253144
Well it wouldn't have been an interracial relationship if both Lois and Superman were blacks.
>>84246487
>Michael Cera pretending he saw nothing so he doesn't get dragged into it
why is he such a beta
>>84253152
Of course it would be,Lois is a human.
>>84252370
I wonder why you don't see more talk of the phantom on /co/
>>84243276
Related to this:
Tim Burton wanted Jack Nicholson for the part of the Joker in Batman (1989), but Nicholson was reluctant to take the role. To make the role seem more valuable, Burton also had Robin Williams audition for the role, which made Nicholson decide to accept the part.
Williams was upset over being used like this, and to compensate Burton promised him the role of the Riddler in the third Batman movie. But executives weren't happy about the darker tone of Batman Returns (making toy deals harder) and so they canned Burton, costing Williams the part.
Another bit of Robin Williams betrayal:
When Williams accepted the role of the Genie in Aladdin, he insisted that his contract stipulate that Genie will not take up more than 25% of any promotional images. Disney blatantly disregarded this when they released the movie, and as a result Williams refused to return for the sequel.
The relationship between the actor and studio eventually mended enough for Williams to reprise the role in the third movie.
>>84252385
Why are executives so retarded
>>84252531
Pretty much
>>84253465
confimation bias+yes men culture+casual -isms=corporate culture. they just aristocrats.
>>84253517
To be fair if they don't, you get shit like
>Give Cap a Boyfriend
They made the choice to focus heavily on his friendship with Bucky rather than hamfist in a romance angle and look what happened?
>>84242492
>>Gene Hackman refused to shave his head or his mustache for the role of Lex Luthor in 1978's "Superman". Director Richard Donner revised the script so Luthor would wear a wig on most of his scenes, and promised to shave his own mustache if Hackman shaved his. Once Hackman arrived on set clean-shaven, Donner pulled off a fake mustache and revealed he never had a mustache at all.
>>84244543
>Peyton Reed's "Fantastic Four" (2002)
>>Alexis Denisof as Reed Richards / Mister Fantastic
>>Charlize Theron as Sue Storm / Invisible Woman
>>Paul Walker as Johnny Storm / Human Torch
>>John C. Reilly as Ben Grimm / The Thing
>>Jude Law as Victor Von Doom / Doctor Doom
Goddammit this would have been great.
There was a planned animated film adaptation of A Princess of Mars in 1936, you can find some concept footage of it on YouTube. If it had been made it would have been the first feature length animated movie.
>>84248463
I'm with you Anon. I read it as a kid and just thought "cows are dumb and clumsy, their tools would be of poor quality" Then I had the child equivalent of a deep chuckle and went to the next comic.
>>84251768
It was from an early concept for the Green Lantern movie where Green Lantern was a fat loser who gets the ring. He uses it to make a green construct of Superman who does all of his fighting for him.
Because this was a thing that almost happened.
>>84243276
Fucking dying over here
>>84250547
you're a fucking idiot
>>84252001
BvS didn't have one right? You could say Diana, but I think it would be too much of a stretch.
>>84251242
Wasn't it also canned because Nick taught that Wright was leading a union strike by the WGA
>>84251816
Ever since I got involved with kinksters, I've come to quickly realize that it's "Open sexuality for me, but REEEEE for thee!"
>>84252001
Because Hollywood formula demands a love interest. But let's face it, both Catwoman and Poison Ivy are there to challenge his sexuality on one level, and a love interest *antagonist* would probably work better for him.
>>84252463
>"Batman wouldn't do that, he wouldn't torture anybody,"
Hahaha holy shit Frank Miller, really?
>>84253427
Because most people here have heard of the name and general concept and that's about it.
>>84254692
from 2002
>Micah Wright:
"The answer to that depends on who you ask and on what day you ask it. Nickelodeon has made it very clear to me that they did not pick up the show because they were unhappy with my attempts to unionize their studio. These people make $800 MILLION Dollars PER YEAR off of cartoons and they pay the writers who make them NOTHING. It's not fair and they know it, but they'd rather fight to keep from paying us anything extra than to share the money fairly. Not picking up Payne was their way of showing their displeasure with my questioning of their greed. They also took steps to try and destroy my career... they put out word to their fellow toadies at other studios that I was "trouble" and not to hire me. Really juvenile stuff when I look back on it, but I sure hope I never run into some of those executives... I'll have some rather choice words to say to their cowardly, backstabbing, blacklisting suckholes."
>"The rights to the characters have reverted back to me. Nickelodeon isn't willing to let anyone else make a show unless they pay Nick for the pilot. In today's timid animation market, that's essentially a kiss of death with American Producers. I'm currently lining up foreign financing for the show... it may end up being series of films, rather than a tv show."
also
"Additionally, it now looks that Nickelodeon is getting out of the animation production business... they are buying shows from other crappier animation houses rather than producing good shows at their in-house studio. They cancelled Zim, Spongebob, and Hey Arnold. They cancelled the 2nd Hey Arnold movie (which, I hear they might resume if the first one does Gonzo business). The Nicktoons studio is just about shut down and various executives have been heard shooting their mouths off that they want to convert it into a live-action facility with lots of office space for executives.
He was still active with WGA five years later, but he switched from animation to vidya.
>>84255462
You know, I hear shit like that, and it just makes me smile that Nick is in its death throes.
>>84255462
Were they auctualy bleeding them dry or was he just one of those faggots who uses unions to get unreasonably high wages
>>84251242
It was shamelessly aping Cowboy Bebop so it's no big loss.
>>84255545
I mean, what's the difference? A employee is always in constant conflict with his employer over wages, as the natural state of the former is to maximize their wages, and the natural state of the latter is to minimize them. And given the fucked up shit Hollywood execs do, even if homeboy was being greedy in this case, he was trying to get a cut from way worse people.
>>84244022
>Nice outfit, did your husband make it for you?
>>84255601
>Censorship
>Ever not a huge loss
>>84250440
It's a sixty-five million dollar circus tragedy.
Chris Claremont regularly paid a prostitute to dress up as Storm and act like her while pegging him.
>>84253427
A little too bland for modern readers.
A storytime of selected material would help. Maybe.
>>84255681
Not picking up a show isn't censorship.
>>84255869
Despite being bullshit, I simultaneously have no problem believing this, no surprise, and my opinion of Claremont remains exactly the same.
...Huh.
>>84250234
He's just that dreamy.
>>84242764
The shenanigans of Brando should be catalogued in a book. A sacred tome perhaps.
>>84244237
>>Anton Yelchin as Wally West / Kid Flash
Oh this would have been glorious. RIP you beautiful spastic Russian prince.
>>84253550
eh, shippers gonna ship. do I have to bring up Zutara?
>>84253550
They cut several Cap/Bucky scenes and added the kiss with Sharon in reshoots to "no homo" the movie.
Good thread.
>Before Greg Weisman and Brandon Vietti worked on Young Justice, they were slated to work on the Green Lantern cartoon. Because they weren't allowed to use Hal Jordan, John Stewart, or any of the other main GLs, they based the premise around younger GL recruits doing black-op missions. The main characters would've been Charlie Vicker, Arisia Rrab, and Arkkis Chummuck, with Hal making a cameo in the first episode.
>The show was scrapped when the Green Lantern movie was delayed and Weisman and Vietti ended up getting a gig in Space Ghost, then Young Justice.
>>84257951
Speaking of cancelled show pitches, wasn't there stuff going around for a Superman/Batman show and a No Man's Land one?
>>84255545
They were probably asking a lot of them even then. Non-union shops tend to just pitch the lowest price for work and then hope they can ask for more later on. If they can't, it all gets done the best they can manage - the buyers can't do anything about that because they've already spent their money, and the animators end up putting in a lot of unpaid overtime just to get shit done on time and as close to the brief as possible.
Now? They're pretty much all there is. It's anomalous in a city that's had strong unions since forever (and studios that have been very happy to have the unions - because they also do a lot of the regulation of talent that the studios would otherwise have to do)
What they actually seem to have done at Nickelodeon is fire anybody who even tried to unionize - which is weird, again, because they knew that Wright was WGA (because literally all writers in LA are WGA) and they already have directors and whoever else working through unions. In fact, the move to live-action means greater interaction with unions - so from the sound of things it was a personality clash (he talks about how Angry Beavers had outstayed its welcome too) that was dressed up as a union thing. Petty revenge is often like that - you paint your enemies as difficult on vague terms, and people don't try looking into it. While they seem to have ended him in animation, he's not done badly - lots of high profile video games work, and still very active in WGA. He even oversaw the creation of a WGA award for videogame writing - something he's qualified to judge.
It's also worth noting that in LA, nobody much has unreasonably high wages any more - the A-list actors and directors do, but everybody else is earning pretty much in line with the 6th or 7th deciles of the US. Above average, but not rolling in it. The ones who are making the big money are, in any given year, maybe a couple of dozen individuals. Producers are different (it's their money that's invested, after all).
>>84244022
>>84244638
>>84250440
He almost certainly didn't write any dialogue for the movie.
At the time it was filming (January 2001), he'd been writing Spider-Man comics for 2 months. What may have happened is that he may (as the current writer of a Spider-Man comic, and alongside others in similar positions) have been invited to tour the set and made a remark which caused offense. More than likely, however, it's just a made up story - even when they were doing emergency reshoots right after 9/11 (to get rid of scenes which showed or referenced the Twin Towers or anything which might be perceived as insensitive), it's extremely unlikely he'd have been asked to contribute.
It's possible that he was talked up as the next big thing well ahead of any real success of USM, but this was a Sony production, not a Marvel production. They have their own writers.
If Mission Impossible 2 hadn't taken so long to shoot, you'd've gotten 16 years of Dougray Scott as Wolverine.
>>84246347
>Does Amy Adams like comics?
I heard in an interview that she wanted to be Lois Lane for the longest time, even auditioned on Returns.
>>84247475
>Darren Aronofsky
I did know he was involved in Year One, but man, that pitch sounds awful.
I wonder if his Wolverine and Robocop projects were the same.
>>84259485
the story's from some USM backmatter. I think he was in a Marvel group to look over/touch up the script and added a joke about Goblin looking like a power ranger leading to the "It was expensive"
