So, /co/, I was thinking about OMD lately with what had been going on in Spider-Man/Deadpool. Clearly there's a difference between pre-OMD MJ and post-OMD MJ. The writers are clearly aware of this, since Slott wrote a terribly shitty MJ in his normal run, but suddenly in Renew Your Vows, she was back to normal. Now to Mephisto, I always thought the concept of him taking the two's marriage was odd. I mean, he's not an idiot, clearly he knows that there's a possibility that it could be brought together. So, obviously, he probably has some sort of back up plan, considering he's Mephisto and all, it must be something terrible. Now back to MJ, clearly pre-OMD MJ loved Peter and would likely do anything to stop him from coming to harm. So if she knew that Mephisto would plan something like this, it falls to reason that she might attempt to prevent it. So, what if, the thing she whispered to Mephisto, was actually a deal that she would remember her life pre-OMD. That way, she could do her best not to have Peter fall in love with her again, by acting like she's not interested, because she knows if they were to get back together her husband could die or something. Mephisto would obviously take the deal, because that just means more suffering from MJ.
>>84239717
I don't see why you're still complaining. The fact that Spidey is single makes him connect more to the audience, since married superheroes have absolutely zero appeal. Can you just let it go and accept that?
>>84239776
Quesada, please fuck off, we don't like you here.
>>84239717
mephisto replaced or is influencing mary jane and spider-man gave him a foothold to take over earth. marvel will use the deal with mephisto to reignite it's supernatural titles. hell on earth: mephisto wars is coming
>>84239717
First off that's stupid. Second, she's shown more person as an individual character after OMD. And third, it's been almost a decade(though you're clearly a new reader who's just waifu'd MJ), get over it.
>>84240296
Wait if he's a new reader wouldn't he be more likely to be okay with OMD since that's all he's known her as?
>>84240296
>Second, she's shown more person as an individual character after OMD
Seriously, Quesada, don't you have better shit to do?
>>84239717
>So, what if, the thing she whispered to Mephisto, was actually a deal that she would remember her life pre-OMD.
Yeah, this has been speculated ever since it first happened, and a few things during BND could be interpreted as that.
>>84239806
>>84240393
This is so ridiculously immature that I really hope you're a samefag rather than more than one person who thinks that by posting this he's anything but cringeworthy. The least you could do is try to offer a counter argument.
>>84239776
>>84240296
ITT: Slott and Quesada come to /co/.
>>84240483
Because it's universally acknowledged that it was a terrible idea among comic fans that the only person retarded enough to defend it would be someone involved in it.
>>84240497
At least use a proxy or something. We can see the post count.
>>84240483
>>84240537
>Implying.
Face it, you have shit taste.
Source on that art?
>>84240518
That fact has absolutely nothing to do with the statements made.
>>84240579
You MJfags are the cancer that plagues Spider threads.
>>84240296
>she's shown much more personality after OMD
Oh, I see what's going on.
That new Spider-event coming out?
It's gonna turn out MJ has been a clone this whole time after the real MJ absconded to Bumfuck, New Hampshire after getting knocked up out of wedlock.
>>84240634
Gotchu senpai
>http://despop.deviantart.com/art/Mary-Jane-in-Mary-Jane-s-By-Des-Taylor-480080000
>>84240643
>You MJfags are the cancer that plagues Spider threads.
I'm going out on a limb here and saying you're a Gwen fag, in which case, opinion disregarded.
Not up to date on Spiderman comics.
Didn't Peter and MJ have a child together? If so where is it now
Who is MJ with currently and who is Peter with currently
>>84240698
I actually dislike all three of Peter's main love interests, but I can see why you'd make such an assumption.
>>84240724
They've had a child in a few alternative universes. You're probably thinking of the more recent Renew Your Vows.
MJ is either single or dating some firefighter dude while Peter is currently single.
>>84240724
>Not up to date on Spider-Man comics
Good, it all went to shit and Slott keeps throwing a tantrum on Twitter talking about how he refuses to leave when someone brings it up.
>Didn't Peter and MJ have a child together? If so where is it now
I don't know which you're referring to, but I'll tackle all three I think you might be. They had an unborn child that died, an unborn child that was erased from existence, and in an alternate reality where OMD never happened, they ended up having a child, but she's not canon.
>Who is MJ with currently and who is Peter with currently
She use to date this firefighter during Superior, but something happened between them and they aren't together. She works for Tony Stark now and some people speculate that they fucked, though nothing is confirmed. Peter is trying to date, but no one seems to be interested. His last ex tried to murder him with a spider robot. There was this nice Succubus lady into science that Deadpool introduced him to named Jenny, but she got really pissed at him when she found out him and Deadpool were getting her to fight Fem Thor for their lesbo fantasies.
>>84240806
>You're probably thinking of the more recent Renew Your Vows.
Anime was a mistake
Well, giving Spidey to Slott was a mistake and letting Queseda's personal shit affect Pete's fictional life was a major blunder, but they just keep going with it
>>84240927
What does anime have to do with anything?
>>84241310
Their daughter's name was Annie May.
>>84239717
But Mephisto died along with the rest of the universe therefore he lost his claim to the marriage.
>>84241491
Richards put the deal in the new universe too because he thought it was funny
>>84241545
It's okay though, because Peter remembers now.
Yo OP, I'm real happy for you, and Imma let you finish, but MJ and Peter had one of the best marriages of all time. Of all time!Seriously though. If you don't teach kids how to have any healthy relationships you end up with the weak, shitty culture you've got now.
>>84241696
Which issue is this from?
>>84243043
Spider-Man/Deadpool #5
>>84242870
No complaints here Kanye.
>>84241696
That doesn't mean that he KNOWS.
It's a nightmare, even if he remembers his dreams he wouldn't think it's anything more than subconscious dream gibberish.
And besides, in the end of OMD Mephisto said Pete would from then on always have a nagging doubt right down to his soul about something he couldn't identify. This is that.
But yeah, M.J. has obviously known the truth since then.
>>84243696
I'm pretty sure he was dead, not dreaming
Yeah, it's character assassination.
>>84243696
No, he was in purgatory because Deadpool shot him. He's fully aware that was where he was. Unless Mephisto was just one of Mysterio's illusions like Uncle Ben was.
>>84239717
>what if, the thing she whispered to Mephisto, was actually a deal that she would remember her life pre-OMD
We went over this particular theory some time back and some attempts to blow up her tiny word balloons strongly implied that was exactly what the deal was. And you're spot on about the suffering part as a bonus.
The problem with this is that since then, we've already had a flashback to that conversation where we heard it –and what she told him was "you don't ever get to interfere in his life again" which he readily agreed to. MJ told Mephisto Peter wouldn't agree to any deal she didn't sign off on, and that was her condition.
Out of continuity, I think the original tiny print deal was JMS, the weaker deal was whoever wrote that issue (probably Slott), and the revival of MJ as The One True Pairing has less to do with OMD and more to do with noticing the specific message of Rebirth over at DC: you lose readers when your reboots are based on severing relationships.
Overall OMD damaged her character in ways that will require work to undo. She wasn't in my estimation a great character to begin with but she evolved from a hipster to a bedrock who exemplified faith in Peter; since OMD she's been someone you really couldn't stand to be around for more than five minutes. One of the reasons I really liked the SpOck/Anna dynamic was because Anna believed in "Peter" and helped make him a better person. Post-OMD MJ only talks about looking out for herself, and it genuinely surprised her when "Peter" blew her off for exactly that reason, as though that ought to have been her prerogative (and she took it when Peter regained his identity).
>>84240823
>an unborn child that was erased from existence
the best part about that? The panel where we saw her as a young girl was traced from a photo of Joe Quesada's daughter.
Post more MJ.
Sexy, supportive, clever or all three. Good MJ.
>>84244797
Is she talking of her tits or vagina bones ??
>>84239847
lol, it's obvious at one point this will happen... Peter and MJ reunite and Mephisto will be pissed so he'll unleash demons on earth and we'll get some shitty supernatural marvel crossover big event that will print $$$$
>>84239717
I wish her and Tony would fuck already
>>84244946
I wish you'd die in a fire.
>>84244946
Who says they aren't?
>>84244797
>>84239776
>>84239776
>>84240296
>since married superheroes have absolutely zero appeal
>you're clearly a new reader who's just waifu'd MJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGn25URIss8
>>84242870
praise it yeezus
>>84240927
I liked Annie. They should've just retconned her and her older sister May having existed this whole time.
>>84243093
Shouldn't Deadpool be aware of all of this anyway? Is that why it's happening?
I knew I should've read that run. Damnit.
>>84239776
The fact that everyone else that reads comics absolutely hates OMD/separated MJ/Spiderman would lead me to believe you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
>>84247742
When has Deadpool ever been reliably aware of anything?
>>84239776
>>84247226
Based 90's MJ
>>84240483
Single spidey doesn't work. It was done before and became incredibly tedious and formulaic. Marvel just cant write good stories of Peters love life no matter how hard they tried. Him being tied down has more drama potential than the repeat of "Oh peter left my date for some reason, hey look spidermans here!" drama for the umpteenth time.
>>84250311
I hate MJ's 90s pornstar look. One of the things that ended up ruining spiderman.
Fuck mcfarlane.
Dammit. If the execs are NEVER EVER gonna let Peter and MJ get together, why not retire her character? At this point, she's no better than Black Cat. They're both just a drag.
We killed off Gwen. Lets just kill her off too.
>>84250398
Dude. Killing off bitches shouldn't be a solution, can u imagine the shit storm? Plus it would be redundant and tedious af since Gwens already dead.
>>84247742
>>84248686
He's been actually pretty aware of his surrounding ever since Duggan started writing him. He lost his multiple voice in his head and has been rather depressed for most of his second to last ongoing
However Deadpool wasn't present during that Mephisto portion, that works more like a dream rather than a resurrection. He was also occupied with talking to Lady Death in that moment
>>84244946
>>84246242
Bendis, with all his shit, appears to be rather anti-OMD, so I thing he wouldn't have them having sex
Wow that pic needs to be quality enlarged. It's beautiful. Is it fan art or animation screen cap?
>>84250457
not op but Search up Des Taylor on Deviant art. You will find several differnet larger versions of Lewd MJ. The one OP posted is by that guy and he has a larger image on his devart page.
>>84250408
Well she's literally not apart of Peter's world anymore. She's too busy chumming it up with Tony.
As for redundant and tedious, yeah. Welcome to the Big Two. And I doubt there'd be that big of a shit storm. They're going to great lengths to make her out as not worth anyone's time.
>>84250398
SpiderJ SpiderJ she and Spidergwen share an X lay.
>>84241696
Fairly certain Mephisto's speech here refers to the end of the issue, where he says something about Peter never being able to find happiness because of the life he chose or something like that. Might not be about OMD.
>>84250506
Yea but there are plenty of readers who are waiting for Peter/MJ to hook up again....I'm just saying the shit storm will be there.
Hell Gwen was boring as shit and her death caused a massivr shitstorm as well
Stan Lee practically forced Conway to revive her, hence why we got the first Clone Saga.
>>84250518
It was obviously talking about OMD.
The following page he says that anything he could do wouldn't ever bring him happiness, because he would always miss "something", that is literally what he already said during OMD
>>84239776
I don't want too connect with a hero who can't stay married or not allowed to have a girlfriend.
Worst of all pushing gay characters having relationships and working.
>>84241343
MJ has an aunt Anna. Peter has an aunt May.
I really want to see where the Iron MJ story goes. likely nowhere, since it's Slott, but maybe.
>>84250623
>I really want to see where the Iron MJ story goes.
She saves them from big bad Regent, she and Peter apologise to each other for their attitude and that's it.
>>84240823
>They had an unborn child that died, an unborn child that was erased from existence, and in an alternate reality where OMD never happened, they ended up having a child, but she's not canon.
It's funny to me how they're doing Spiderman so fucking wrong. This is their most popular character that's a fucking household name, arguably even more popular than Superman, and yet they just don't get how to write him. He really should've gotten a child with MJ by now.
I mean, MJ and Spiderman is easily the Lois Lane and Superman of Marvel. In DC nowadays, Lois Lane and Superman have a kid together, and had him for years, and the kid is even about to fight crime like his pops in Rebirth.
In current Marvel, Peter is a dateless jabroni who fucked up his love life to save his old aunt who's just gonna fucking die of old age eventually. Now he'll never have that kid with MJ, which is sad, because that's what definitely should've happened by now.
>>84250520
>there are plenty of readers who are waiting for Peter/MJ to hook up again
Point of order: many of us stopped being readers. I haven't read Marvel comics in a while because they haven't interested me in a while.
Being Peter Parker = Suffering + MJ. That's the equation and how you balance it out. Stray from the equation and things fall out of balance.
>>84250866
You could argue that right now he has more reasons to be happy than whe he was married.
His company is among the biggest in the world.
He's helping old friends and enemies get back on their feet and fix their mistakes.
He's literally changing the world with his inventions.
He's saving lives and making the world a better place for people around the globe with the Uncle Ben Foundation.
He went from "My life sucks but at least I have my wife" to not needing an "at least" at all. He's doing the great things he always had the potential to do and while most people call his book boring I'm loving every panel of it simply because I get to see Peter in a good place.
If I can't be happy, Peter can't be happy
t. Quesada
>>84251016
I guess there's something to that, but it certainly makes the "people can't relate to a married man" argument sound hypocritical and silly. I don't relate to this Peter much at all. Most people can't. Peter shouldn't (usually) be a power fantasy.
So what happens if they do reverse OMD? Everyone gets their memories back and retcons/magical alterations to the timeline get undone?
Peter and MJ get back together, or at least have the possibility
Aunt May dies
Unborn May Parker get un wiped from existence
The world remembers Peters public unmasking
I vaguely recall OMD fucking up Harrys story as well somehow.
>>84244379
... you're joking, right? I know he was the EiC, but no one really told him that was a stupid and creepy idea?
>>84251320
its a well known fact, the actual picture comparison is floating around somewhere, but i'm not going to be assed to find it right now.
It is creepy as fuck.
>>84251338
I'm so glad I stopped reading Marvel.
I haven't read a whole lot of Spiderman but after reading torment I can say he dident lose much mj is a horrible piece of nightclubbing shit.
It was still retarded to break up the marriage
>>84244325
>the revival of MJ as The One True Pairing has less to do with OMD and more to do with noticing the specific message of Rebirth over at DC: you lose readers when your reboots are based on severing relationships.
Quite likely
There auctualy kind of right Peter has to seem young and he has to have money troubles those are parts of his character.
Problem is it makes no sense for him to keep having money troubles he's a genius.
Still with the relationships now that kamala is filling the teenager representative role why can't spidy stay married now
>>84251608
People do seem to be more nostalgic about her rather than anything.
>>84251608
That was the 90s u fuck. When everyone in Marvel was written horribly. Including Peter, who turned into an angsty wife beater rather than the quipy fun guy we love.
>>84251674
See thats why him being a teacher makes sense. He uses his genius to inspire the next generation while relying on a teachers salary. As a result he still has money problems!
Then there is also the option of him trying to be a lecturer at uni or something. Those guys get paid shit as well but at least he gets to teach and shit.
Pete being a Tony 2.0 is something from an alternate reality or something....not maistream crap.
>>84251681
when was this?
>>84252496
... I like Peter being Tony 2.0. It's kinda where I've felt he (eventually) would be.
>>84252501
Somewhere around the end of the first arc of Marvel Knights Spider-man. Same story where she told Peter she has a debt of $25,000.
>>84252522
While I can accept that fact, the problem is the way he reached that point
He didn't do anything to reach that point, he just "inherited" it from SpOckthe character tha, I remind you, has much more love for life and beauty than Peter
>>84252668
Yea BND peter id just a selfish manchild. Like people genuinely loved spock because he seemed like a better person than the shit version of Parker we have been following for a decade.
>>84252447
I guess that's fair.
Pretty much my only other exposure to Spiderman was about 10 issues of his first comic
>>84252912
Well, since the spoilered part is what Slott himself said, I suppose it's a fair opinion of the character
>>84252496
That's a very good solution to the money problem.
So now that we have solved the problem of Pete's money and kamala now means Pete is allowed to stay in a relationship does this mean Spiderman can be good again
>>84252960
yeah sorry if I came off as an aggressive ass. It simply pisses me off when people base of MJ from the 90s when everyone was written horribly... YET she is blamed by editorial for ruining spiderman when it was the shitty writing and storylines that caused that crap to fucking happen.
I am glad we got JMS to redeem the spider marriage for a while there.
>>84252981
Which boggles me on why the fuck Slott just doesn't write a good peter? Like he has written him before in Spidey/Torch miniseries or RYV! Like for fucks sake just fix him from being a man child because I know you can Slott.
>>84253242
Probably because they think he must be a manchild to make it relatable to the children, that are the only people that should ever find Spidey relatable
Why not directly make it all-ages like Hellcat if that's the audience they want for the character?
>>84239776
Superman is a big seller right now
He's married.
With a kid.
You lose.
>>84253292
Honestly its really creepy of modern marvel, namely the 21st century guys have a huge fetish for a young childlike Peter. Which basically influenced the decision a great deal to keep him single.
like jesus fuck how many times have we heard Marvel Editorial saying that Peter should be in high school?
in the comics Peter stayed in HSC for like 2 years... in the TV shows that followed Peter stayed in College, the animated series, amazing friends, new animated series etc etc. The Raimi Spiderman films graduated him as well and ASM film series barely dwells on it.
Granted we got marvel adventures, ultimate spidey and spectacular spiderman showing his teenage years can be viable. But those are super recent and were only successful thanks to good writing. Even then Ultimate was slowly declining prior to Peter's death and so was marvel adventures spidey.
Look at the new cartoon Ultimate Spidey, its fucking shit. Its like they listened to te marketing team who went "hey kids like kids, make spidey a kid."
Even tho no kid really gives a shit if he is a teen or not. I know I for sure didn't and my younglings don't either.
>>84247226
>Slowly Peter's spirits begin to rise.
So that's what he named his dick.
>>84253391
To be fair his age is what made him so popular to begin with
>>84253578
That was the joke yes
>>84253391
>ASM film series barely dwells on it.
TASM2 yes but TASM1 no
>>84250398
No killing of MJ unless Jenny becomes the new main spiderfu.
>>84250619
Why the fuck didn't I notice that?
>>84250769
>who fucked up his love life to save his old aunt who's just gonna fucking die of old age eventually.
Funny you should mention that. In the last ASM it seems like Slott is building up to killing her off (again)
>>84253597
Him being in highschool not really. Him being a young twenty something in college or uni yes. That's been the Peter everyone knows for decades. This highschool Pete mantra is a very recent thing.
>>84240724
The child was spirited away from them after birth and when they went to search for her they instead found aunt may who by that point had been dead a few years.
Now, allow me to pontificate.
Norman, recently revealed to still be alive and having just killed Ben Reiley, using stolen Jackal tech, more than likely force aged Baby May and implanted her with Aunt May's memories because that's how Jackal's clone tech roled. This however is just conjecture.
Fast forward, shit keeps happening, they never find their kid, Civil War happens and Kingpin puts a hit on Peter because he fucking hates him, and Aunt May gets shot instead.
Peter's deal with Mephisto is to bring Aunt May back from the brink of death AND to undo Peter's unmasking.
So, for their marriage, they get that plus whatever MJ whispered to Mephy about. And during the mystical hoodo of the deal, a girl appears before Peter telling him he screwed his chances of ever finding her and then everything changes.
Spider totems are important.
Mephisto wanted one.
He brought the real Aunt May back from the dead and claimed the now outside of reality soul of Peter and MJ's daughter...
Who is a Spider Totem.
A demonic spider girl called Itsy Bitsybis about to debut in Spider-Man Deadpool. After a Mephisto appearance teasing what he did.
I am right. Mephisto has baby May.
>>84252496
>>84252522
Nah, Peter's life had been leading up to him being the new CEO of the Daily Bugle.
>>84253835
>plus whatever MJ whispered to Mephy about
She whispered that she was the only one that could convince Peter to accept the deal, it was revealed in OMIT
Anyway, nice headcanon. There is a one in a trillion chance that it might actually happen, but I would be totally ok if it did
>>84253958
Thanks. I've been sitting on it as an idea and thinking that has to be the whole real point of Mephisto's deal with the Parker's for years now.
This upcoming Itsy Bitsy character with demonic ties feels like true and utter vindication. And if the deal falls apart Norman gets giddy because e gets to remember just what he's done, than that would be great too.
>>84253835
You know what sucks? We never got to see Pete follow up on his word to Kingpin
>>84254256
They basically ignored everything that happened during Back in Black, including Peter talking with Aunt May and the OAA, so what did you expect?
>>84240643
Eat your Slott and fuck off, rimmer
>>84239717
>Bending over backwards with fan theories and less-then-canon explanations for bad writing
I will never understand why fanbases do this.
>>84251016
>liking Slott's work
So much money do you save on food by eating so much shit?
>>84253835
the post clone saga, pre-JMS era managed to be more retarded than the clone saga itself, jesus
>>84251245
i hope it retcons everything from that point onwards, it´s not like OMD cared about making sense in continuity after retconning so much stuff, so disregarding everything is valid, fuck the brand new day era, and fuck all the shitty slott OCs
>>84251608
she cared about him,and had interesting conflicting emotions about peter being spiderman and risking his life, many writers wrote her badly but those elements were used correctly by the right writers,read kraven´s last hunt and JMS run, not to mention countless 80s stories, but if you want to see the pure love they had for each other read the ones i mentioned just for a taste of it
>>84253787
I was talking more in the first year or so of his appearance.
Or maybe my memory is playing tricks on me and he was in college from the start.
>>84255794
no he was at midtown high at the very start. it was like What if Archie was a sociopath? levels of weird.
>>84255794
No he was in Highschool at the start. Which was like 1963?
I know Stan made him go to college to capitalize in the college population's popularity.
How did they mess up her character so fucking badly
>>84256613
They can't get her right in the comics, how the hell do you think they'd get her right in the movies?
>>84256677
Slott and Quesada are responsible for the comics. But MJ was bastardized in the movies from the first one.
>>84239776
>married superheroes have absolutely zero appeal
>>84239806
Yup, which is why I want Luke and Jessica separated. Bendis and Jessica have made Luke boring.
>>84243696
When did MJ learn?
>>84256613
Because they didn't write MJ, they just wrote a girlfriend for the protagonistleading to one of the worst romance of the history of cinema, I would add
Seriously, what did she had in common with the actual MJ?
She wanted to be an actress and a difficult family, and this second point is barely touched, literally just her screaming to her father for one second to never be referenced ever again
>>84259267
She mentioned in 2 that her abusive family showed up to her play, even though Peter didnt.
>>84259267
>Seriously, what did she had in common with the actual MJ?
Besides what you mentioned, nothing. Hell, she was a shit girlfriend and person in general. Yeah, she had family issues that were barely touched upon, but that doesn't excuse the shit she did. She got with Harry in the first movie and kissed Spider-Man behind his back, then was crushing on Spidey for the rest of the movie. At the end she wanted to get with Pete, who sperged out and told her that he couldn't be with her. Second movie comes around, and Pete tries to get her back and she says she's getting married and doesn't want to change her entire life just to be with him. Then her friend calls her out and says she doesn't really love John, so MJ decides that means it's time to try and kiss Pete while she's still engaged instead of confronting her fiance. End of the movie comes and she decides to abandon John on their wedding day just so she can go hook up with Pete. Movie 3 comes around and she spends a good portion of it shitting on Pete.
Somehow they managed to skip everything that made MJ great for some girl the protag (who wasn't really Peter, if we're getting into it) and the audience to jerk it to because redhead with braless titties. Sure, they didn't have a Gwen or Captain Stacey to kill to get Pete to flip out on her (until the third movie for some fucking reason), but they could have used Norman's death and Harry's hatred of Spider-Man to emulate that. No party girl facade whatsoever.
Raimi's MJ felt like a mix of Liz and Gwen, with the constant bitching at Peter. Raimi Gwen was damaged beyond repair and shouldn't have been introduced at all. But even then, at least 616 Gwen actually loved Peter even if she was boring. And when it came down to it, when MJ, Gwen, and Peter fought, they took the piss out of each other. It wasn't just MJ nagging Peter for whatever and Pete just taking it. He fought back too, and they got through it.
Watts has his work cut out for him.
>>84259267
he went to see her broadway show. asked for cash after.
>>84259463
>>84259642
Point taken, I didn't really remember that scene
It still feel like a waste of a potentially interesting side-story for the movie.
It would have been much better having her dealing with her shitty family rather then having her "singing too softly"
/r/ing the screencap about Mary Jane and Otto swapping bodies instead
>>84259782
Do it
>>84260588
What
>>84252627
No, this is the last arc when Peter finds out who kidnapped aunt may. And MJ's got good reason to be pissed considering what he's about to do and Felicia encouraging it.
>>84259536
>was crushing on Spidey for the rest of the movie
Anon, that's just a law of the Marvel universe
Even the bitches of this species will be lusting after Spidey
>>84251245
>I vaguely recall OMD fucking up Harrys story as well somehow.
It fucked it up in the sense that it literally brought him back and gave the exact same "he was hiding in Europe the entire time" excuse Norman got for his resurrection.
>>84260958
>That Cat
>That MJ
I miss Dodson
>>84251338
>>84251397
Carlie Cooper is named after Quesada's daughter. I think people are looking way more into it than it is though, it's just Quesada being lazy and anti-creative.
Same way he banned smoking in Marvel comics because his dad died of lung cancer.
>>84260588
First day?
>>84251016
>And since this is Peter Parker and not Reed Richards or Tony Stark, it's all gonna blow up in his face one day.
Post-OMD, do people still remember Spider-Man unmasking, just not who he was?
>>84261591
Strange fucked with everyone's memory
I can't find the panel but we've already seen what will happen when/if Peter realizes what has happened.
In House of M. They showed that Peter what his life was like before everything changed and he freaked out big time.
>>84261843
I heard House of M Pete got with Gwen and was pretty damn happy.
I never read HoM, Disassembled, or CW because I heard they were all utter shit and they were before I started reading comics
>>84262000
I might actually be one of the few that enjoyed house of m. But i also read every tie in cause they all came in one big download.
Same with Civil War. And The Skrull invasion. The tie ins are what make it all fun.
>>84261180
>Same way he banned smoking in Marvel comics because his dad died of lung cancer.
How the fuck can you be that insecure
Could you imagine if he was at vertigo when they wrote the dangerous habbits arc.
>>84262000
And yeah he was pretty happy with Gwen. Had a child. But the thing about Peter is he'd rather live in reality than a fake world no matter how much better it may be.
He won't take his life being altered well. Even if it was (?) his choice.
>>84261728
Yet despite being one of the best surgeons on the planet he couldn't fit a bullet wound
>>84262114
>Civil War
It seemed like a cool concept, and I know it can be done well. My first exposure was with MUA2 and I thought it was cool as hell. And when Secret Invasion hit in EMH, I thought that was rad as hell. But then I came to /co/ and found out that both were shit.
>>84262157
i never quite understood what happened in the HoM spidey tie in, he fakes his death to live peacefully with his family but in the main house of m story peter realizes the illusion and has a breakdown, was it an alternate universe of what would have happened if he embraced that fake universe?
>>84261591
Adding on to this, does MJ still remember learing Peter's idendity while looking out the window?
>>84251245
>The world remembers Peters public unmasking
this is the thing I want the most.
