What the fuck was the point of this character?
>517 posts last thread
we're dead... good night...
He had no point much like homestuck itself
>>84173609
He is irrelevant, like these threads. I'll see you faggots at the Hiveswap generalso maybe never
>>84173609
Memes.
>>84173609
Being one of the best characters.
At least until he became Dave's accessory.
>>84173848
Fuck, he was so good too. His dialogue always ensured that you were going to have a good time reading it, but towards the end he was just like "ugguuuu~ i hope that dave is thinking of me".
>>84173631
how come the threads have been kinda quiet lately, are people just moving on?
>>84173924
Is caliborn clutching his crotch in the picture?
>>84173953
Nah, keeping the dress from getting pushed up from the wind
>>84173924
i guess so
>>84173924
Only the past thread was really quiet -- most threads have a lull until around this time. I highly doubt that we're dying out. There are too many people that still care about this stupid comic for that to happen, and drawfriends like you help contribute content that keep these threads alive.
I just noticed that the felt-like green people in Waterworks' interlude are based on the phonetic alphabet.
>>84173848
Post-retcon just felt like Hussie forgot everything about Homestuck and looked to the worst parts of the fandom
Davekat popular? Good idea! And now they're both the only main characters who take all the drama! Nepeta popular? Bring her back!
>>84173609
Regardless of anything else which happened with him, the past, present and future Karkat arguments will forever justify his existence. Some of the best comedy I've read.
>>84174095
Nepeta being brought back, AND merged with one of the best characters, offends me on a physical level.
>>84173924
Yeah we're dying and the only hope is that everyone posts pictures of Caliborn in dresses... It's the only way...
>>84174095
I think someone said a few threads ago that stood out
Pre-retcon, Dave and Karkat were both kind of absurdist. Their comments and rants had a lot of silly aspects to them. Karkat didn't just say "fuck" a lot, he was surprisingly creative, as was Dave.
Now they just talk. They don't really crack jokes, they don't go on those weird rambles, and they aren't as insulting. The last part is the only one that could be argued that "hurr durr they're more emotionally stable" but Homestuck always had that ribbing and back and forth, even between friends. Post-retcon it feels like nobody has a fucking spine. Everyone is all happy and friends, and nobody swears too much because Homestuck has to pull a T rating from the ESRB.
>>84174202
i deadass can't tell if this one is for real or not
>>84174159
>YOU ARE SUCH AN IGNORAMUS I COULD SHIT MILES OF RAGE SNAKE TO CHOKE YOU TO DEATH
will the threads come back if liveblogger liveblogs herself trying out her dragon dildo
>>84173987
the nightly threads still seem kind of lively, i just really want the threads to last until winter for gristmas, i've never gotten to participate in one
>>84174146i was thinking of drawing caliborn lewd tonight
>>84174283
>that spoiler
Nice
>>84174283
Draw Jade's utter and complete hatred of pants
Not even sexy, just her demonstrating all her pent up rage on the pants she never wears
>>84174283
>No more cute exhausted Jade slowly going insane and turning to rage
>>84174283
if hiveswap is coming out its surely coming out before christmas. if not its not happening.
>>84158389
>Todd Howard: Thief of Hope
>Gabe Newell: Bard of Time
>Hidetaka Miyazaki: Prince of Doom
>Hideo Kojima: Seer of Mind
>Hideki Kamiya: Knight of Breath
>Junichi Masuda: Rogue of Life
>Toby Fox: Page of Heart
>Markus Persson: Heir of Space
----
Rate my hypothetical fanventure roster
>>84174344
Make it all the space players, save for Calliope who sits in the background in her god-tier outfit and awkwardly says that pants might be okay
>>84174352
Where do you think grimdark jade was going development wise?
Like was there an actual plan behind it or was it a case of 'shit this character is op better make them a bad guy'?
>>84174389
>no carmack
>>84174421
Showing that Jade without inhibitions has a LOT of pent up rage towards the unfairness of the world?
Having Dave fill her dark soul with light?
A further excuse for Hussie to do more with his mind control and femdom fetishes?
Or just to show that Jade without inhibitions isn't actually that mean and just wants someone to love?
>>84174421
Grimbark Jade wasn't going anywhere that post-Descend Jade wasn't headed at first. Maybe Hussie could have made it semi-permanent, and made her a counterpoint to Kanaya and a pseudo-troll, subverting again where you think Rose would go.
As is, no, it was just a way to keep Jade out of the story because of her powers and Hussie's poor planning.
>>84173924
>are people just moving on
Its not like everybody is scizophrenic to keep posting here or anything
>>84174421
>FPS
Fuck, I knew I was forgetting thing.
>>84174475
>Grimbark Jade is a poor excuse for a villain who can't even kill people right and generally just wants to hang out with Dave
>Crockertier Jane is a would-be rapist. Not even a metaphorical one like given the chance she'd straight up enslave and rape Jake
>>84174421
i can accept that with condys powers being what they are, jade had to get mind controlled. though id rather it was fixed better and she had a chance to do some op shit after. one of the best things about act 5 is that dave's timetravel loops were fucking op and he took advantage of them. writing op powers in a satisfying way is a fucking challenge for most writers but i definitely thought for a while that andrew could pull it off.
>>84174518
but men can't get raped :^)
>>84174421
Carmack's clearly the Lord of Doom
Reminder that everything you think you know about the Mage class and Doom aspect are complete conjecture
Reminder that all of Sollux's powers are indistinguishably muddled between his aspect as a player and his mutant psionic genetics
Reminder that neither Leijon has a single thing to do with the aspect of Heart
Reminder that the one thing you can link to both Doom players through their aspect is that they both suffer extreme trauma and injury; and thus, the most accurate thing you can estimate about a Doom player is that significant harm will come to their person
>>84174560
>Not Knight of Rage
Rip and tear
>>84174370
It's definitely being worked on. Whether it actually comes out or not is another subject.
>>84174598
It's gonna follow not!Megaman
>>84173609
Is the Vol 10 steam worth watching? I'd like some insight on the songs and music team but it's over 4 hours long.
>>84174475
>Having Dave fill her dark soul with light?
Fuck we had the perfect setup for that too dammit
>>84174480
>made her a counterpoint to Kanaya and a pseudo-troll, subverting again where you think Rose would go.
Fuck that would have been pretty interesting too
>>84174598
>its still being worked on
>that's why there hasn't been a single update!
>>84174653
Jade used to have an interesting concept going, where she was supposed to become what you think Rose would be, and vice versa, where Jade is supposed to be the dark brooding destructive witch despite being a good little Prospit girl, and Rose is meant to be the bright and sunshine-up-pisshole joyous seer, even though she spent most of the comic acting like a miserable cunt whose momma didn't diddle her enough
Hussie sort of forgot all of this
>>84174653
We had the perfect setup when John came in and Dave agreed to train with Jade, and maybe they could have had a feelings jam, but then that got retconned away
>>84174717
>I had this idea, but Hussie never made it canon!
>FUCK HUSSIE
This is like 90% of Homestuck criticism.
>>84174370
Why do you say that? Christmas is less than six months away. They still have a lot of work to do, since they're still hiring artists for backgrounds. I think six months is very optimistic.
>>84174651
It's worth it, but the best stuff is in the Q&A portion after they finish listening to the album.
>>84174774
The fact that none of the characters remembered anything post-Gameover post-retcon was annoying. No Terezi and Jade realizing their knights died for them (and Dave getting an examination on the hero thing and Terezi realizing how fucked Gamzee was), no Jane re-examining everything when she realized that after all that Jake was still willing to take a sword for her (or Jake realizing he could be pretty heroic and not really a loser), no Kanaya realizing that even though Rose was a drunk bimbo she still cared. Fucking nothing
>>84174813
Dude this was clearly a pattern being followed with the whole initial reveal of Rose and Jade and how one was a Seer and the other a Witch
This is not made up, this was an actual plot along the lines of how Sburb is supposed to challenge you into a role before Hussie had 190 characters all vying for even a single line of dialogue
>>84174836
>very optimistic
Too optimistic, I can see Kazerad updating TWICE before Hussie does.
>>84174475
>Having Dave fill her dark soul with light?
Damn, we never got a shoosh pap moment against any of the grimdark ladies of Homestuck. DaveJade's could have even been sbahj style with awkward flailing limbs and Dave going "no dube flip yur emoutionss... JOY WAYS" and making it happen.
>>84174813
People getting mad that Hussie never followed through with things or did it in the most hamfisted way possible you mean
>>84174881
>JOY WAYS
>Jade strung out on Joy
juuuuust got a boner
>>84174926
Which joy are we talking about? There's several Joy drugs now
>>84174813
ehhh there's a lot of it but mostly I see people complaining about out-of-character behavior and poorly handled themes
>>84174874
From that you could extrapolate that Davros was meant to be an endgame ship, because Kanaya went to Dave for advice on how to troll Rose and then they got together, whilst Tavros went to Rose for advice on how to troll Dave, and then they had their innuendo laden kraft mayo/bull riding rap log.
Hussie has said in Q&As that he sets up patterns and parallels, and then either plays into them or disregards them as he sees fit. He dropped Rose and Jade's personality inversion, but that doesn't mean that it was supposed to be fulfilled and he's just a hack, it may mean that he decided not to do it on purpose and he's just a hack.
>>84174947
The personification one
>>84174947
Oh Joy Sex Toy
>>84174975
Davros did die on his ship and he hasn't been seen since all those years ago, as far as I know
Wouldn't it be great if Sburb was real? We can finally be free of our responsibilities without resorting to suicide.
>>84174836
background art has gotta be the last thing you do in an adventure game, right? everything else must surely be finished already or winding up for background art to be the big thing right now. maybe im being too hopeful by thinking this, but it seems logical to me.
>>84175000
I don't know what that is
>>84175068
how do you create the setpieces without the background art
I'd think it was the first thing you do, so that you know where you're putting everything
>>84174881
You mean Dave pulling a Commander Shepard and using his dick to heal her problems
>>84174947
the one that makes you disassociate so hard you turn into a rapemurder machine
>>84174868
Yeah, wiping out hundreds of pages of character development without an equal replacement was a very bad move.
>>84175056
>Implying anybody would get copies besides god's chosen people
>>84175109
Jade's already a rapemurder machine though
A roadrunner/Wile E Coyote style cartoon but instead if's Jade trying to catch Dave for sexual purposes.
>>84174868
>>84175114
At least it meant something to their ultimate selves.
Which would be great if the ultimate self meant anything.
>>84175096
you can write a complete script and do a lot of the programming using primarily placeholder assets. games often look like absolute ass until very near the final stage (look up the bastion beta using shitty D&D placeholder models).
hey maybe this is why they're quiet about showing stuff from the game?
>>84175096
no way, you do all that stuff with sketches and mockups. the final backgrounds (which are gonna be pretty high quality since 2 . 5 m i l l i o n d o l l a r s) will be done after every interactible element is planned out fully which implies all the writing and design would be pretty much done.
>>84175096
maybe they had placeholder background art
>>84175206
>something introduced in the second-to-last conversation in the entire comic in the last 1% of the comic, that ultimately doesn't pay off and doesn't matter
Fuck ultimate selves, Terezi: Remember should have given everyone their memories back
>>84175213
they're not showing anything because
a) they don't have anything to show, and/or
b) they're afraid of negative fan reaction
which are both shitty excuses for not delivering on their promises to backers
>>84175251
if you dont think ultimate selves were just a logical extension of the platonic shit that defined the comic since literally act 1 youre fully retarded
>>84175213
>>84175226
>>84175249
The thing is that with adventure games like these you often have parts of the scenery that animate and move when you interact with them. They have to blend in with the background, so if you use placeholder art, you'll have to update the animated stuff when you update the backgrounds, too.
>>84175254
>"the 4chan hackers are checking our twitter, run!"
>>84175300
uh, yeah? thats literally how placeholders work. you replace them
>>84175287
Yeah I fucking get that, except again, never went anywhere.
Nobody ever achieved some platonic ideal, ULTIMATE SELVES never fucking mattered beyond Hussie trying to justify his retconning of all that character development.
Introducing themes and then doing nothing with them just makes you Zack Snyder
>>84175317
yes obviously
I'm saying that replacing them is going to be deceptively tedious
>>84175322
>achieving the platonic ideal
y-you know thats not how platonic ideals work right?
>>84175342
Not according to Davepeta.
It's good to know Dave's ULTIMATE SELF is such a fucking awful person
Actually, they might be able to release 25% of Hiveswap before Christmas. Expect the second 25% the following June.
>>84175363
davepeta isn't even dave's ultimate fucking self
davepeta can only be considered davepeta's ultimate self, if that
>>84175254
If Hussie had come out and said "Hey guys, I'm notoriously shit at estimates, I initially thought Homestuck was gonna finish up within a year, and then I said by 2012, and we've all seen how that turned out. I'm going to step out of the limelight and go silent for a while until I have something complete that I can actually release for you, because my constant setting up of expectations and then letting you down isn't doing any of us a favour. See you whenever!" I would have been happy with that. The guy used to be clear and upfront about shit going down and when/why he needed a break and that was cool. Fuck, thinking back on it I really liked the horse calendars and they were only a year ago. He had finished stuff and dumped it on us at a specified time, I used to tune it during my lunch break at work every horse day. I hate the "coming months... okay months passed with nothing but COMING MONTHS for real this time..." update schedule.
>>84175389
Davepeta is not a person, Davepeta is Dave and Nepeta.
>>84175391
Stay tuned!
The epilogue has a fucking to answer for
>>84175400
>Davepeta is not a person
>>84175422
You mean it has a lot to answer for?
There's basically no way it'll make Homestuck satisfying. Homestuck tried to end like PS ended but Homestuck being far more character driven meant it failed miserably.
And PS also at least showed the final boss being defeated in a satisfying way that had all the established elements come together.
>>84175322
'ultimate selves' already went somewhere the second we had multiple versions of characters, which was dave: accelerate, and then we spent the whole fucking comic exploring it. homestuck is ultimate selves: the fucking story. the davepeta conversation just nailed down the concept.
>>84175022
hey
if you like davros you should probably catch up
>epilogue is longer than act 6
>>84175448
The only way the epilogue could end the comic satisfyingly is by basically tossing out most of Act 6 and starting over from there.
>>84175460
Dave: Accelerate contributed to the story, Davepeta and the retcon just destroyed it
>>84175485
>epilogue is the length of acts 1-7 combined and its a huge problem sleuth style boss fight vs lord english.
y/n
>>84175448
>tfw people get mad at other people for wanting endgame ships but you just want to see what characters resolved their interpersonal issues enough to fucking hook up
>>84175529
I don't know if I can take being hurt again like thatwho am I fucking kidding, I'd take that in a heartbeat if it had the main kids actually doing things.
>>84175514
yeah i agree but thats totally irrelevant to the post youre responding to
>>84175545
In HSG's mind, the best epilogue needs:
Dave and Jade having babies and Davekat being sunk or confirmed platonic
Lord English's defeat being shown or at least the aftermath
A confirmation of what happened to all the fucking characters
A conversation between the four kids including them posing as a team
Conversations between other family members, such as Rose/Dirk
Karkat at least ruling over some aspect of troll society and not being a fucking wuss
Conversations and art actually written by Hussie
>>84175460
>the davepeta conversation just nailed down the concept.
Not at all. Davepeta's explanation muddied the concept. Davepeta's implication is that "it's okay if you don't reach your potential because there are circumstances where you could have". It suggests that the individual experience doesn't matter, but the ultimate self is nothing but an aggregation of individual experiences. This is why you see so many fans confusing the concept of the ultimate self with an actual person. Davepeta did a poor job of conveying that the "ultimate self" concept is just a thought experiment and does not serve as consolation for the unfortunate and the damned.
>>84175529
>the kids fighting english outside the juju for 8000 pages while he goes through 24 different forms
>vriska and meenah trying to solve some retarded puzzle to move a giant fan for ???? reason for 8000 pages
>>84175630
All of this sounds great
>>84175460
The Ultimate Self is not "there are multiple versions of the characters". The Ultimate Self is "all versions of you are really the same person, so it doesn't matter that you're one and not the other".
Alternate selves have been a theme in the comic for a long time, with characters comparing themselves to their alternate selves and others like them, wondering how their own accomplishments measure up in comparison, and wondering who they should be and could have been. It's one of the main themes of the comic and its coming-of-age story.
The Ultimate Self comes out of nowhere, goes nowhere, and goes directly against the comic's established themes as well as its established metaphysics. It doesn't affect the comic in any way, beyond helping characters (and, supposedly, the readers) feel better about things.
>>84175630
>Dave and Jade having babies
>In HSG's mind
You know its just a meme right
>>84175684
>feel better about things
>it just makes jade more miserable because she knows she missed out on prime grade-A davepuss
>>84175478
I haven't watched in a long time. Tumblr kind of poisoned the series for me, as childish as that is. I haven't seen any Peter Capaldi episodes at all.
But, you know, I really don't see much of him on Tumblr, ever. Do they not care about the show when the Doctor isn't a a young anime man?
>>84175630
That first point is irrelevant, but everything else would soothe the anal devastation in all quarters of the fandom.
It would be cool if the epilogue were a million years post-Homestuck in the new universe, the kids all go out to see a movie together in their new hometown and it's an epic historical drama depicting everything we missed out on seeing in the comic proper.
>>84175719
Fuck you, I want at least one puppy, just to seal the deal and see Dave get the happy family he's wanted
>>84175719
Speak for yourself, I'm honestly okay with kidkids at this point, at least they'd be better characters than most of the cast.
Neigh.*crack*
Neigh~
>>84175812
We got at least one piece of art of implied Rose being spanked by John, so I'm happy
>>84175730
Pretty much.
is Matt Smith even doing anything these days?
>>84175684
the ultimate self is just the platonic ideal of a person that is invoked when there is more than one of them. the thing you think of when someone says 'dave strider', that includes both pre and post retcon dave, doomed daves, davesprite, alpha dave, etc. thats all it is. same as how you can picture the concept of 'apple' in a way that includes all apples that have ever existed. sprites^2 are more aware of that shit but they arent actually the ideal, theyre still just one self.
its not about 'you're all one person and it doesnt matter which one you are'. thats just what davepeta draws from it. hes a shitty character so it sucks that hes the only one who verbalised the concept that had been essential to homestuck for so long.
>>84175843
He was in some pretty big stuff, Terminator and the Pride and Prejudice Abraham Lincoln Slayer movie. He hasn't been not-the-doctor for that long remember.
>>84175784
It'd be appropriate as a coming of age story, and with Homestuck's theme of guardians, at least showing a situation where things turn out okay between parents and children.
>>84175824
Like official art?
>>84175846
>Davesprite being just another Dave
>>84175846
>its not about 'you're all one person and it doesnt matter which one you are'.
davepeta seems to believe this
What the fuck was the point of this comic?
>>84175888
davesprite is literally another dave. theres no 'just' about it. him and normal dave are both equally valid versions of the DAVE IDEAL
>>84175888
>Like official art?
No. I don't trust Hussie to draw good porn
>>84175924
T-shirts and pornography
epilogue is Bard Quest 2: Bard Harder
>>84175846
>the thing you think of when someone says 'dave strider', that includes both pre and post retcon dave, doomed daves, davesprite, alpha dave, etc.
but that's not what I think of
>>84175919
What a fucking asshole, of course she was actually deprived of those things if she doesn't have access to those memories
>>84175926
only one of them is a valid version of the DEAD CROW IDEAL though
>>84175924
To convince girls to put on dog ears and blonde wigs and get naked on camera
>>84175824
well, i just jerked it to Maplehoof's Adventure
>>84175924
to waste your time
alternately: to prompt an emotional experience
even if you are having a negative experience, the comic is still affecting you, and fulfilling it's purpose
>>84173609
to be drawn in cute fanart with his bf of course!
>>84175982
Now just imagine John in riding gear using a crop on a well fucked Rose and have fun
>>84175919
yeah i literally said davepeta believes it in the post. but davepeta is retarded so fuck his opinion on it. its been a thing long before he was in the comic.
>>84175924
Don't read a webcomic called Homestuck.
>>84175952
> pornography
いいですか? お願いします?
>>84174577
>Reminder that neither Leijon has a single thing to do with the aspect of Heart
Nigga, WTF?
>>84176014fun fact: sans winks with a different eye depending on whether or not you're fighting him. that's his "i'm going to fuck your shit" wink.
>>84175968
Jade was deprived of so much. The one nice thing about post-retcon pre-Act 7 is that at least she got some brief fulfillment of what she wanted
>>84176008
I was actually imagining Rose getting thrust into repeatedly by a pony's cock
>>84176048
yeah she finally got to kiss a pussy
posting nice fanlands
>>84175999
His shrodinger's bf who we were left not knowing whether he may or may not have, and whose relationship is nonetheless the only thing left of his character.
Karkat is like the shaky nervous guy in dirty clothes at the casino, clearly someone who's on his absolute last hope in this world before he officially has nothing, shouting "ALL IN ON RED" and pushing his meager pile of chips forward. Our viewport into his world is then frozen in that moment, forever. That is the extent of the resolution we got with this character.
>>84176078
I can name all of the Felt that these body types belong to
that's fucking good character design
>>84176089
>>84176026
Heart = soul
Shipping =/= soul
>>84176048
Getting fisted by PM?
>>84176063
No no, the neighs and the erotic neigh is Rose
>>84176048
She didn't get anything, it was the other Jade who was in a relationship with that Dave.
>>84176025
>you will never fuck a cheerful and eager Damara
>>84176127
the aspects aren't just the one thing. heart is soul but also has associations with romance and emotions, like how light is both actual light, and also information, and also fortune, and life is both healing things back to life and plants.
>>84175846
The problem with the idea of the Ultimate Self is that it treats characters as nothing more than extensions of their own platonic ideal, and expects us to care about the ideal rather than the individuals who actually exist.
Davesprite's character arc is a good example of the problems this causes. For most of his existence, Davesprite's problem was that he felt overshadowed by the "alpha" Dave. He thought he was just a second-rate knockoff, a doomed timeline echo who didn't really matter compared to his "true" self. This isn't a problem unique to him; the alpha Dave had a very similar character arc, where he was constantly comparing himself to other people like his Bro and John, feeling like they were better and more important than him.
Alpha Dave overcame this by learning to appreciate himself for who he was, not worrying about whether he's the "best" or not.
Davesprite was forced in the opposite direction when Davepeta happened, outright denying his status as an individual in favor of considering himself an instance of the "Ultimate Dave" and deciding that all of the Daves' collective awesomeness was essentially his.
Alternate selves are a common theme in the comic, but in virtually every instance the difference between one self and the next was a crucial point. It was extremely important that Meenah isn't the Condesce, or that Spades Slick wasn't Bec Noir. Then it suddenly wasn't.
>>84175529
>>84175656
>this will never happen
>>84176148
Yeah but she got her brother back, got to do something to help, and even flirted with and got a shot with a Dave that isn't a fucking fucked up furry shithead character that lowered the overall quality of the comic fuck Davepeta
>>84176158
>the aspects aren't just the one thing
yeah that's pretty convenient when you have to retroactively find meaning in a character because you've run out of time to develop them any further
>>84176183
it is, isn't it?
>>84176118
Least he didn't Thelma and Louise off the lilypad as his ending, like Terezi did.
>>84176172
Nepeta existing was a mistake.
>>84176204
Was the davepeta stuff even drawn by kojima?
>>84176194
>>84176204
Gamzee tried to save us. See where that got him?
>>84176132
I am aware of this.
>>84175529
>we get to see more Fraymotif combos for the kids
that's all I want
>>84176218
like half
Rose is THE character for bestiality.
>>84176047
protip sans is actually steven universe
steven
after
not
surviving
Posting meaner fanlands
>>84176307
Lands of Fire and Dark when?
Also, how do these lands work? each player is assigned with these?
>>84176273
jade is literally a furry
>>84176337
I don't make these, but I do come up with the name and design for most of them. On occasion, when my backlog's empty (right now it isn't), I'll ask people for stuff like their classpect and personality issues, and then custom design them a land and quest to go with it.
If anyone's taking land requests, then im requesting mine:Land of Keystones and Monoliths
Page of Void
Your entire land is constructed out of rectangular prisms and cubes made out of various kinds of stone,
inhabited by the stone-chewing Goats. Your land is slowly collapsing inward, as the delicate balance of
frictional forces keeping your planet held up is being degraded by your Denizen: Terminus. you have a very stringent
time limit to finish your quest before your land is rendered uninhabitable.
>>84176343
Being a furry does not equal true bestiality.
in the whole of homestuck:
>davesprite has 3.6k words
>davepeta has 2.8k words
how did this happen
>>84176204
>Nepeta was a joke character never cared about, never developed, never did anything of importance, unceremoniously killed off
>Hussie spent years ridiculing and dismissing all fans of Nepeta and put multiple instances into the comic of everyone considering her worthless trash and the worst kind of unimportant
>Even Fefeta was shafted, literally never spoke or interacted with anyone in any way, shape or form save for reaction faces when she's a goddamned sprite
>Who would even like this shit character anyway
>...I'll just combine them with ostensibly one of the most-liked and most-important characters in the entire comic and make them front and center drop an element of great importance that is never touched on again
>And drop the stupidest kind of combined DaveBro and Nepquius reunion that gives no proper weight to any of the characters' established personalities and relationships and is essentially mocking anyone for caring about any of the elements involved in this scene
>And make a meme about selfies
>And also make a stupid meme fight reference to my friend's video game
>>84176363
yes this is good
>>84176373
if you don't think jade tried to jump Bec's bones at least once on that lonely, lonely island, you are sorely mistakenwhy are there so few fics of that premise that don't suck, or exist at all
>>84176363
THE ULTIMATE GAMEGRL
best fusion yet
>>84176392
you just gotta accept that hussie considered davesprite on a level with nepeta in terms of holy fuck stop asking me to give a shit about this character. if you cared about davesprite youre the same to him as people who cared about nepeta
>>84176392
I really can't believe that he combined one of the worst trolls with one of the best characters.
>>84176449
davesprite got way more development than nepeta though
>>84176363
These would be so much better if this person could draw. You know to head for the hills when an artist's years-old drawings look better than their current output.
shesagamegirl
I hated jade when she first showed up but eventually i simply forgot she even existed as the comic went on
>>84176483
Name that shit on the image.
>>84176468
not really. their wordcount was pretty much identical and davesprite was part of the cast for MUCH longer
davesprite: 3.6k words
nepeta: 3.4k words
>>84176505
it's just how I found it.
>>84176497
was she the one with the really shallow cake-baking theme or was that one of the trolls
>>84176531
yeah but nepeta was mostly cat puns and davesprite almost never spoke unless he was talking in some oblique way about his issues
>>84176531
As >>84176560 said, most of what Nepeta got to say was silly cat puns and romance talk with Equius. She herself didn't get any real development at all, her issues were barely even touched upon from what I can recall and she was never used to develop one of the main trolls, her and Equius just did their own pointless thing for some stupid reason.
>>84176497
I always found Jade pretty boring, but the other three main kids deserved better than to be sidelined halfway through the comic.
>tfw davesprite, instead of a glorious death alongside Bro, was condemned to years of suffering followed by fusion with fucking Nepeta
>>84176632
What even were her issues? Also, Equius was really useful.
>>84176681
she kinda had a crush on karkat
>>84176632
>>84176560
it just depends on what you give a shit about. a lot of people clearly cared a great deal about nepetas fucking cat puns. somewhat less cared about davesprites issues. but hussie didnt give a fuck about either, and thought both groups were equally dumb and worthy of parody.
>>84176688
OMG, boys!!!!
>>84176680
>Could have fused with Rose
>Could have fused with Roxy
>Could have fused with Dirk
>Could have fused with AR
>>84176708
don't get me wrong nepeta is a nice character and heroic enough to be worthy of being empathized with but she has the depth of a catfood tin
>>84176769
yeah this
Nepeta was perfectly nice for a brief niche comedy character but I never got the obsession with her beyond projecting
>>84176746
He really should've just died alongside bro.
>>84176791
He needed a greater end than just dying with Bro for being "The one doomed Dave to maybe survive its unclear if he's undoomed" but it wasn't fucking THAT.
davesprite's failure to resolve his issues in a natural way is emblematic of homestuck's problems in dealing with the nihilism of predestination in general
>>84176746
>Both Dave and Dirk had issues with splitting themselves off and the non-Alpha versions suffering terribly
>Never got DARsprite reconciling about ultimate selves seeing as they both are doomed versions of a cool kid
>Never got DARsprite reconciling about their respective issues with guardianship, seeing as AR is Iwouldliketoplayagame level of immature manipulative Bro, and Davesprite is Idon'tgiveafuckaboutyourdadissues fly away into the sun level of self-centred petulant Dave
everything that we know and love is redUcable to the absUrd acts of chemicals, and there is therefore no intrinsic valUe in this material Universe. u_u
>>84176817
are you saying davesprite should have had a stridercest yaoi ending
>>84176681
So from what I can recall she had issues with loneliness, using her focus on romance as a sort of comfort blanket to mask said loneliness hence her fixation on Karkat out of nowhere. I think the whole Disciple Suffering bond also possibly played a part, but that is likely speculation on my part as I can't recall outright confirmation on something like that.
I think the loneliness stems from her rather savage lifestyle pre-sburb, similar to Roxy in some respect which makes sense given they're both Rogues. She's likely one of those people who needs to be surrounded by people and yet she's only got Equius, whom she cares for deeply, Aradia, who died and became a creepy robot and Terezi, who she should have helped develop and actually provided something meaningful for the comic. The roleplaying seems to be her attempts at blocking out her lonely situation, which is amusingly likely the cause for her troubles in finding friends given how odd it is.
>>84176817
>That picture.
;(
>>84176769
honestly i dont think davesprite was very deep either. just being sad doesnt make someone deep. real dave had basically the same issues as davesprite (feeling defective/second rate) for much more complex reasons.
>>84176769
>>84176786
I think there's a lot of characters who didn't need much depth to them, given they're supposed to be secondary or tertiary characters. The problem is they should play some role to those characters who do mean something to the story, or the plot itself.
Had Nepeta done her cute cat thing and offered some development for some of the main trolls or their situation then her fans would likely be happy with that, given she'd be a fucking piss poor major character.
>>84176859
HYPOCRITE THAT YOu ARE, FOR YOu TRuST THE CHEMICALS IN YOuR BRAIN TO TELL YOu THEY ARE CHEMICALS. ALL KNOWLEDGE IS uLTIMATELY BASED ON THAT WHICH WE CANNOT PROVE. WILL YOu FIGHT? OR WILL YOu PERISH LIKE A DOG?
>>84176885
davesprite's version ties more readily into the cosmic nature of paradox space, hence >>84176828
>>84176859
SHuT. THE FuCK uP. YOu DISMAL WHORE.
>>84176885
I agree with you, but Davesprite started with and held a lot of promise as a reflective and complementary character to Dave's development, with the narrative hanging sword of maybe being doomed still, maybe not, and being able to be Dave in places where Dave wasn't.
Hard to say how it could have gone. For me, an ideal end would have involved Dave and Davesprite becoming one, reflecting Aradia and Jade, and maybe showing a sort of hidden promise for all successful Time players.
>>84176374
Because we learned about Davesprite from his actions, not long speeches.
>>84176885
His situation and its implications was pretty deep given the rather depressing themes with no real solutions in sight. It was interesting to see another version of a character we know, but with a slightly different experience that vastly changed their outlook on things.
There's not many sympathetic characters who make a main character feel shit just for existing, even if they don't intend to do that, and it was a rather striking contrast to Nannasprite who'd acted as a solid supporting character to Jonn up until that point, but in a much more positive manner.
>>84176885
Davesprite's cloaca sure is deep
>>84173609
Hussie struggles with moving stories along. He's no good at it. So, the point of Karkat was to give more exposition, because Hussie's never heard of show, don't tell.
Gee, how do I show what happens when a game goes right? OH I KNOW, I'LL HAVE SOMEONE TELL THE KIDS, SO THEY CAN TELL THE READERS
Gee, how do I make the ghosts seem worthwhile? BETTER INTRODUCE EVEN MORE CHARACTERS!
>>84177121
his fuckable hole is so deep it goes through his entire body
double prototyping is like the fusion dance in dragon ball z but everyone just becomes gotenks
>>84177126
>Gee, how do I show what happens when a game goes right?
What gets me is that Hussie didn't use this as an ongoing narrative support device, instead of blocking out a huge swathe of rushed time for it.
He could have, during the entire story once the trolls started to warm up to the kids, have them explain and contrast the kid's actions against how it's 'supposed' to go, maybe with callback panels and brief glimpses of their session to help pad the story along and serve their original purpose, as a way to make the story go fast with successful players talking the kids along.
Then when you hit the r-kids, kid them another 4 trolls of the 12 to serve as patrons and story-movers. Then wrap it all up at the end with just the 8 kids and 12 trolls against Jack.
HELLO FELLOW CHILDREN
>>84177228
God they probably aren't even doing it ironically
>>84177223
seems to me like it would've been difficult to keep finding natural transitions to troll session flashbacks
>>84177228
>it's not even sweater weather
>>84177295
That's because he didn't actually show the game, he just keep jumping over that to skip to romance chatlogs and three years
cool and new update!
http://omegaupdate.freeforums.net/post/21558
>>84177439
not today jade
>>84177223
I would have liked it if it were the four beta kids being hassled by the trolls about doing stupid shit and things going wrong, gradually becoming more proficient as time goes by until the scratch, when they actually lose contact and never meet up. Murderstuck happens, all the trolls die, with a bit more emphasis on the fact it's Cal/LE guiding Gamzee's hand, setting them up as a villain with real weight and consequence to the story. Then jump to the alpha kids being hassled by the Cals, but with more time fuckery so you get future Caliborn (LE) gloating and lording it over them about how great he is, and Alt Calliope secretly making contact, working in the shadows on contingency plans and attempting to guide the alphas to some kind of success. Then the beta kids bust through the scratch to the session, kick their kid-guardians into gear by also being their respective kid-guardians, and team up against the two ultimate threats (Betas vs. Bec Noir and Alphas/Callie vs. LE) to win the game.
I wish unprototyped Tavrosprite and unprototyped Nepetasprite had found each other, had an awkward handshake and then became a giant black hole. That would have been a great culmination of their character arcs.
>>84177520
>saying no to Jade "Make me a pup or I'll rip you up" Harley
>>84177520
>>84177228
>all those people using the #davekat as proof of canon
now its #karezi
>>84177543
>>84177504
> TT: Hello?
> CT: d----->hi wh%s this
> TT: Rose. One of the humans. It doesn't really matter.
> CT: d----------< ok so: do you like hornses%
> TT: Horses?
> CT: d----^hornses
> TT: Alright, I think I've heard enough.
> CT: d------------v sweat
it's like I didn't even leave this thread.
>>84177228
Is there a way to make a reverse-purchase from a company I don't like? Can I take money away from them legally? What if I gave them a sweater, would they have to pay me for it?
>>84177580
>>84177608
>Jade trying anal for the first time
>>84177635
>>84176746
>Could have fused with Authority Regulator
Fuck yes!
>>84177648
>>84177648
i bet jade has the cutest orgasms
>>84176078
jade eggs is killing me
>>84177504
>testacleTheorist [TT] screams at turniplyCabbagous [TC]
>TT: Who is this?
>TC: hI iM gAmEtEz :o)
>TT: ...Hey, Gametez.
>TT: I'm Rose. How's it going?
>TC: mOtHErFukCiN mIrAcLEs :o) :o) HoNK :o)
>TT: Indeed.
>TT: I can't tell if you've been ruined, or if you're supposed to act like this.
>TC: hOnKH oNk MtoHerFUcKer;O) :o) MiRAcLeS
>TT: Okay, I don't think I really want to talk to you either way.
>TT: Later.
>testacleTheorist [TT] is quiet at turniplyCabbagous [TC]
fucking golden
>Jade was never in a walk around
>Caliborn was never in a walk around
Reminder that Jade can use her Space powers to enlarge a single sperm cell to the size of a dog and guide its tail into her sensitive orifices while she straddles the slimy thing
>>84177686
>implying her face doesn't distort like she's in horrific pain as she chokes on a scream she has to stifle with a bite while slowly tearing great nailfuls out of her lover's back
