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It's like /gfg/ literally wrote this. It's too damn familiar. Actually does this guy post here? Sure seems like it.
>>84090157
Forgot the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tww2PhIJuB4
Also, is he right?
>>84090157
what does /gfg/ even fucking mean
>>84090276
good question
>>84090276
Gravity Falls General
it died out pretty fast as the show ended, a pretty big sign of how quickly people soured on the show
His points aren't really new, but they are still true.
Alex is a fraud and a retard for not giving it a 3rd season.
But at least it isn't 80% filler episodes like SU
>>84090344
/gfg/ was pretty dead for the entire last year or so
blame fifty billion hiatuses
also /gfg/ did get banned as soon as the show ended and during the many hiatuses to be fair
>>84090157
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tww2PhIJuB4
>>84090451
wrong url, same as above but there's another video about this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IQ76q1EYS0
>>84090421
the term is Hack
also GF was 100% filler episodes because there wasn't really a plot anyway
who was the author? didn't really matter
What was Bill? just some guy
What did the symbols mean? nothing really
why was everything weird? because it was weird idk aliens or something
>>84090476
BUY THE THIRD JOURNAL TO FIND OUT ONLY $49.95!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRGZrTEVJ00
>>84090867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZECcn0cuIII
>>84090465
PIEGUYRULZ and JelloApocalypse are literally the only people outside of /co/ that I've seen speak negatively about some aspects of the finale, why is that?
>>84091031
Zionist brainwashing
I'm actually kidding, a lot of people just don't think you can like a show and criticize it at the same time
>>84090344
>Content stops coming
>Generals stop
This is how it's supposed to be and I don't think is indicative of anyone "souring" on the show.
>>84091122
Pieguy is also the only SU fan I've seen make criticism towards SU outside of /co/he's my favorite cartoon critic
>>84090344
>>84090428
I think if /gfg/ was still alive, it wouldn't be full of fans, it would be full of people calling Alex a hack, people complaining about the finale,etc.
It's probably for the best that it's dead
Grendip is best ship.
Reminder that Journal 3 and the inevitable bill statue hunt will be way better than season 2B.
They needed 3 seasons and a movie to wrap this thing up.
Also the movie would need to be rated R.
>>84093058
>shit art for shit ship
How ironic
The theme song is the best thing ever, and I remember watching through season 1 hoping that the twins would eventually stop fawning over impossible love interests and get to some mystery hunting with Uncle Stan.
I love the jokes and the stories of each episode, even if sometimes it ended in a typical Disney fashion where the character learns something and needs to explain their growth at the end.
The fandom is phenomenal and I love how the codes were quickly solved by fans and available on the wiki for the lazy like me. Also the art is great.
Even if the overall story felt pretty unfulfilling, I'm still happy and grateful that such a wonderful show was made.
>>84093152
>The fandom is phenomenal
Confirmed for having never visited a single /gfg/ thread on /co/.
>>84090465
i guess i dont disagree, but i sure as fuck never got so EMOTIONAL about this as people did. fuckit, she was cute. not-learning-her-lesson made her look like a worse person. that was a knock on her, not a free ride. the SHOW called her out.
Why is most of the fandom dead as a doornail except for the odd giant-breasted Pacifica, incest faggotry, or shipper fanfic while the Bill people churn out more shit than ever? Is it memes?
>>84093348
Autism has a very long half life.
>>84093281
people here thought they were dipper so mabel not worshipping her brother and sucking his cock made them awful mad
I've been rewatching Gravity Falls lately and if there's one thing I noticed, it's how poorly written Dipper is. Every episode is just him actually trying to do something right and move the story along, only to have to stop midway and A P O L O G I Z E to Mabel for whatever the plot demands this time.
For fucks sake Alex really is a hack if he can't even write his protagonist well
>>84093389
he can't get over his nu male fixation with the idea that women can do no wrong.
>>84090276
Fucking newfag.
I never even went to the generals even though I enjoyed the show, but come on.
So is /tlhg/ the new /gfg/?
>>84093535
/gfg/ did at least have mystery and decoding shit and show analysis though, it wasn't 100% waifufagging like /tlhg/ is.
Oh lord the Miraculous one is hilarious
status-quo-yo
>>84093226
I appreciated the fandom for its art and hilarity, although it wasn't always funny for the reasons it was trying to be.
>>84090632
More like $19
>>84090344
>>84090428
>>84091431
>>84091688
They banned /gfg/ during hiatus... which is fricken stupid since other shows still got to have generals during long stretches without episodes...
Also, while the finally was pretty shit, I think there is still a lot of love for it overall.
Did the journal came out yet?
>>84094618
Next month
>>84094618
Never
Where were you when you realized Steven Universe had more substantial mysteries than Gravity Falls the show that's been heavily advertised and pushed based on being a mystery story?
>>84094807
You're a fag
>>84094807
Nowhere since that didn't happen.
>>84090276
Garfield General
>>84096338
Gravity Falls had Ford. That's literally it. The blind eye society, the Stan hints, everything in the show that was a secret was built around the reveal that Stan had a twin brother named Ford who wrote the Journals.
Steven Universe has Pink Diamond, Rose's role in the Rebellion, Pearl's backstory, Garnet as a fusion, the Diamond Authority in general, and Lion, which is just off the top of my head.
>>84090157
I like how they pointed out how terrible Mabel was and how she got literally everything she wanted while dipper always sacrificed for her. As it turns out, only literal autistic fans that self insert as her defend her shittyness.
>Manchildren arguing over which mediocre cartoon had more mysteries.
Oh wait, I forgot where I was.
>>84096447
>anon on /co/ calling others manchildren
Its like you don't have any self awareness.
>>84094807
>>84096414
We see you, Ruby avatarfag.
DUDE
>>84094578
Generals are cancer. Find something else to talk about during hiatus.
I remember there was a pic that showed Dipper wrapped in a blanket burrito-style, being hypnotized by glitter, and wearing a fluffy, snug sweater. I'm not sure where it is, though.
>>84096495
I no longer feel sorry for Manzi. She sure did dodge a bullet there.
>>84094807
Reading 20th Century Boys.
In the Berenstein universe, we got three seasons of "Gravity Falls" and a TV movie. The big reveal of Stan and Ford being twin brothers was the Season 2 finale, and the lead-in to Weirdmaggedon was Season 3, with Weirdmaggedon itself being the TV movie. Every question we had would be answered over the course of the third season, with some extant questions being relegated to a post-series book series modeled after the three journals.
In this Berenstain universe, we got two seasons. Stan/Ford became the mid-season finale, and Weirdmaggedon became the season/series finale entirely. All questions were left unanswered, with only a handful explained in a single book modeled after Journal #3.
>>84096991
Anyone know where this is?
>>84093497
You kidding, right? Nobody checks all threads to fnd what he want to discuss.
>>84090421
but.... most of season 1 and season 2 are episodic and plotless episodes
>>84097209
Context clues, nigger.
>there's an entire board for generals of another activity labeled /vg/
>hmm i wonder what /gfg/ could mean in a thread about gravity falls
>>84090421
I think he was just frustrated with the way Disney was treating the show. With the way they kept putting it on hiatus he'd probably be chained to Disney for another 3-5 years if he did another season and a movie.
>>84096495
This is pretty cringe. Didn't know he was such a SJW.
>>84097353
>cringe
>sjw
>>84097378
Did my choice of words trigger you friendo
Season 1 was the funniest cartoon since Spongebob. I loved every minute of it. Season 2 was a fucking let down though. It tanked the plot hard. Alex got bored with it and/or "couldn't handle it anymore" and he ended it too soon. Characters suffered, plot suffered, pacing suffered, etc. It really did need three seasons and a feature film. They barely explained any mysteries. All of them were shrugged off like in this post : >>84090476
. The show doesn't really mean anything at all now. I'll still have nostalgia of it (show started when I was 15) and season one was funny but it dropped the ball so fucking hard it's hilarious. Seriously, what happened to the books opening ultimate power or the aliens and where the creatures came from? Also, Bill's homeworld and all these other dropped details like Blendin and where he went and how he even fucking relates to the story. The show went from being well written to laughable. Especially after Not What He Seems, which might be the single best episode of western animation.
Jesus Christ.
>>84097343
>"Working for this company is too haaaaard! I'll just fuck off, who cares about that show anyway? It's only my Opus."
Lazy hack.
>>84090169
>Mabel never learns anything and ends up being a terribly unlikable character because she doesn't have any kind of character arc
Yup, that's pretty much about right.
>>84097626
"show started when I was 15"
Who let this fucking child on 4chan?
>>84096495
Alex is a mongoloid and his argument doesn't follow
Putting someone on a Watchlist doesn't strip them of any rights, it just marks them as someone to look out for, which is why making these lists without due process, while prone to abuse, isn't fundamentally a problem.
But once you start using those lists, created without any real oversight, to take away rights from people then you're on a SERIOUSLY slope into authoritarianism.
>>84097626
>(show started when I was 15)
>This person is technically allowed on 4chan
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I AM SO FUCKING TRIGGERED RIGHT NOW
>>84097174
Seconded
>>84097706
>I can either put my career on fucking halt for half a decade while The Mouse releases already finished episodes once in a blue moon for no other reason but to make the show last longer or I can move on and do new things
Yeah, such a lazy hack.
>>84097799
The watchlists were already being used to keep people off airplanes. War on Terror people didn't have a problem with the lists then but now that guns are involved they suddenly have something to say. And once this current incident blows over they're going to be silent on it until the next big shooting.
>>84094807
Yeah, but Gravity Falls had a real mystery, SU has mystery because Sugar attended the Adventure Time School of Being a Backstory Cocktease.
>>84097884
>"I can either finish this project, creating potentially one of the biggest accomplishments in serialized animation and carving my name into the history of the medium or I can leave it half finished, go create a slew of other properties that unlikely to ever reach the heights of my previous project and be forever remembered as a middling hack who can't see things through."
Yup, seems like lazy hack behavior to me.
>>84097343
Disney was doing constant hiatuses because Alex was already wanting to end the show after Season 2. They were hoping they could negotiate with him to make a 3rd Season.
Faggot should've counted himself lucky, Craig & Lauren would probably kill to get 3rd Season for WOY.
>>84096447
Honestly both shows are pretty good.
>>84096430
Mabel really got forgotten and neglected as the show went on, that's all. The show was more invested in the mysteries and therefore Dipper. They should have had Mabel get interested in the mysteries, too.
>>84098860
I think the writing staff and Hirsch in particular were way too in love with Mabel.
Even when she was relevant she was always played up to be a borderline angelic figure who never did lasting harm and only ever did harm at all with the noblest of intentions.
Dipper took some hard knocks when he fucked up he grew and changed and became a better person, Mabel, not so much.
I asked this before but the thread 404'd so I didn't see an answer: does anyone know what these memes from Japanese social media are about? Are they supposed to be making fun of America for preferring its cartoons to anime? Or are the cheering people supposed to represent westaboos?
>>84098928
True, characters who are given excuses by the writers never get a chance to grow and change, and thus be interesting.
They sure were cute, though.
I have a question; did they ever show how Gideon found his Journal?
>>84099647
They were going to at one point but it got cut for time. I can't remember exactly how he found it, but it basically corrupted him and led to him becoming evil
>>84099128
Post more
>>84099733
Source?
>>84096495
As a non-american I just don't understand how the fuck is gun control even an issue to debate about. What exactly do you do with the guns?
>>84099733
Wait, was it the journal, the necklace, or his own thirst for forbidden knowledge and unimaginable power that corrupted him?
>we never actually know what the unimaginable power is (or maybe it was one of Bill's lies? I dunno)
>>84099852
Some use it for protection and/or intimidation, but most of them just like collecting guns, sorta like how people keep trading cards and action figures.Not an American by the way, how close is my guess?
>>84099852
How is this even question? You don't have to be American to want own/use a gun you autistic fuck. People have their own reasons and just because you don't see any point in having one doesn't mean others shouldnt be allowed to. Some people live in dangerous neighborhoods, and carry for protection, while others own as a hobby for sport or hunting.
>>84099949
>being this mad
Tranquilo, gringo.
>>84093380
>Implying Mabel didn't suck Dipper's cock.
Why do you think he kept on giving up shit for her?
>>84099977
Yes, stupidity generally makes me very upset.
>>84099852
>A non-American doesn't know what to do with guns
What a surprise
>>84090157
I like this video except for the fact that he called the series’s writing and animation good. No they’re not! Stop saying that, animation can be a hundred times better than this.
All that Family Guy posing is stale and boring.
And the writing? I can’t get over how much writerspeak the show uses. At least it’s funny sometimes.
>>84099852
The big issue is that Americans seem to love their guns.
People from/in other countries collect guns all the time, sure, but only Americans seem to actually and genuinely LOVE guns. They defend and praise guns, and the right to bear an armory-full of them, with the same amount of blind passion any other person would defend their own limbs.
>>84100026
He's obviously being sarcastic with that statement about the writing and animation
>>84097064
Really need to get back to finishing this.
Goddamn, I miss /gfg/ Halcyon days.
>>84099810
I think it was an AMA Matt Braly did
>>84090157
This show was pretty good, but the finale was complete shit and it made me forget about it in a moment. It was that bad.
>>84100055
Because it's part of our fundamental laws, and is essential to our history and liberty. Not only did guns give us the tools to carve out the great western expanse, it protected us for generations from those seeking to make this nation tyrannical. It gave us the tools as Americans to not simply be members of a nation, but the correction to that nation's overreach. The law isn't stated 'people should have guns because guns are good' it's 'people should have guns so as always to make the government know that its people can will and should depose you if you are too overreaching'. We did it in the Frontier days, we did it in Athens Tennessee, and we should do it again if it needs to happen.
>but you could never counter the government with rifles
That's why the list of acceptable weapons for citizens needs to be expanded. This isn't just a matter of fantasy, the people should always have the right to check with armed force the government. This is what the law was for, for OUR protection, not the government. If we commit crimes, yes, we should be punished, but as this is more than an arbitrary privilege big daddy government gave you but also the means to ensure our national stability, it is necessary. That is what authoritarians in this country don't want us to realize: A nation of 100 million intelligent armed citizens can and will have the power to easily bleed a tyrannical force in this nation for all its coffers. Perhaps in your nation you've enshrined a social contract of government and governed, but in the United States we are able to claim our own Mutually Assured Destruction with our government, to protect our liberties and ensure the due process of the law. And woe to any pearlclutcher or powergrabber who would wish to neuter us of that right.
The right to keep and bear arms protects all other rights, and no madman with a gun will be the spark to deny the 100 million good souls of the USA guns too.
>>84099852
Well it looks more like Alex Hirsch was just strawmanning the fuck out of that person.
>"Oh, you don't like gun control? You must support terrorists!"
Not to mention, he seems to just have completely butted in on an unrelated argument.
I mean shit, I used to think all these tweets were just /co/ pushing the hackposting meme, but he really is a lousy person who cannot argue worth shit, so he just driveby tweets people before blocking them.
>>84100504
>armed USA citizens
>intelligent
Pic one
>>84099128
>>84099143
I'm not going to pretend to know for sure because I don't know a single damn thing about Japanese social media, but I'm guessing more the latter, it looks like their equivalent of any sort of "Why are you still watching x when y is so much better", except with us its usually anime over cartoons, and for them, it seems to be reversed because its a unique and fun cartoon while the anime its being compared to is moeblob/fujoshit trash. I've heard Gravity Falls is hugely popular in Japan.
Just what in the fuck happened with Gravity Falls during Season 2B?
>>84098005
Speaking of, WOY Finale >>>>>>>>> GF's finale
>>84100793
What happened? Nothing of course. Nothing after painful painful nothing.
>>84100793
Alex said "fuck it, I can't take this shit anymore." and then he did a half-assed job, rushing the story.
>>84100689
Intelligence has no factor into it, a right is a right.
>so you admit Americans are dumb
I admit a fundamental right is fundamental.
>>84100506
He was pointing out the hypocrisy of the rightwingers, they were completely fine with blacklists the first time but now it's completely bad and undemocratic and yadda yadda when it's about something they care about.
>>84100793
>what is the wheel
>oh it's actually the only way to banish Bill forever
>but some of them doesn't make sense
>well it doesn't have to be an actual connection
Even with that half-assed explanation the wheel ultimately managed to do fucking nothing since Stan fucked the whole thing up.
But to answer your question, the only big mystery we had was 'who was author' and 'Stan probably have a twin guys just look at the totems', both of which were answered in the same episode followed by another hiatus.
>>84099128
Those guys get used in a lot of reaction comics.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/reaction-guys-gaijin-4koma
I think in your image, it's pointing out how rare beach/pool episode are in western animation compared to anime.
>>84100793
It was rushed and full plot holes.
>>84100901
That doesn't really make much sense, but then again neither does Japan.
>>84100890
>He was pointing out the hypocrisy of the rightwingers
Please see: >>84098012
>>84100504
>the people should always have the right to check with armed force the government.
You know, a while back people tried rebelling against the government by armed force. They lost. It's known as the Whiskey Rebellion. And let's not forget about the civil war. Americans have never had the power to overthrow their government by force.
If that's why you think we need guns, that's laughable. Guns are tools. Tools that are sometimes necessitated by people's lives. That's the only reason we're allowed them.
Is this the same guy that did that Steven Universe "review"? The one where he talks shit about Amethyst?
>>84100925
How does that invalidate anything I said?
>>84100958
Yes. And Amethyst really need to sort her issues.
>>84100890
I really don't want to get drawn into debating the politics behind Alex's "argument", I'm pretty sure the political shit is why I never see a Gravity Falls thread last over 200 posts anymore (usually deletion), I'm focused more on the fact that he argues with trollish bait logic. If he was a right winger he'd be a Fox News pundit. It just shows he's unwilling to be the type of person who reasons with the other side and maintains a level head about such things. Instead he's screaming "RACISTS!!" and "HOMOPHOBES!!" and other things at people for liking a different political candidate. It ties more into the rumors that have been posted that Alex is terrible to work with, the awfulness of his personality as it comes off in social media is something that ties into this.
>>84100974
That pointing Alex pointing out hypocrisy rings pretty hollow when he himself is a hypocrite.
>>84100958
Yep
Tho iirc he said in the comments the was near perfection or something like that. Fag couldn't even stand for his own words.
>>84101012
she can still be perfect as a character, but awful as a person
>>84101004
I wish we could have Gravity Falls threads not 'Alex Hirsch's political opinions' threads. The people who keep complaining all the time and derailing threads are more annoying than Alex tweeting a bit.
>>84101012
>Fag couldn't even stand for his own words.
You do realize that the "This is basically" videos are supposed to be comedic in nature, right?
A 1½ minute video that is supposed to also pack in humor isn't going to accurately reflect anyone's opinion.
>>84101060
Well, not entirely true. Yes, seeing the same left vs right arguments is annoying. However, some of Alex's tweets are so outrageously bad (the foghorn sounds one for instance) that they really do deserve constant scorn and ridicule. When like 5% of his tweets are Gravity Falls related and the other 95% are him virtue signaling, its hard to get around.
>>84100939
>a rebellion failed therefore no one should have this right
What logic is this?
>And let's not forget the Civil War
Two nations that claimed sovereignty over military bases in the south that led to open conflict? Secession is different that what we're talking about
>Americans have never had the power to overthrow their government by force.
You seem to imagine that a right is only worth protecting if you can win without physical harm or the threat of losing. How many people have died to ensure freedoms in nations all over the world? If you are so unable to find principles willing to die over, I pity you.
>If that's why you think we need guns, that's laughable.
A desire to have the means to secure our liberties at all times is laughable? A government can be answerable to its citizens without guns sometimes, but how often have men who seek power not been so kept in check?
>Guns are tools
Tools of protection against oppressing force, be they criminal, corporate, or conventioned.
>That's the only reason we're allowed them
No one should 'allow' you to have rights. You as an individual are a sovereign being, and deserve inalienable rights that your governments respect as sacrosanct. Rights of mankind are not given to us by people, or by Gods, but by the nature of existence. They are the standard principle all of us are born with. Some are denied this right by others, but in a vacuum they deserve the respect of them. Call it a belief system if you must feel that that discredits it, but the sovereignty of the individual is what I will defend.
>>84101008
And that makes the right wingers any less hypocritical because....?
>why do you want to destroy freedom ?
>but you supported watchlists the first time
>no you see, that time we were PROTECTING freedom, we love freedom
The problem in this exchange isn't the libs supporting watchlists when is something they care about, they righties did the same a few years ago, the problem is that despite doing exactly the same one side still claims to be the "champions of freedom"
The dems build their discourse around equality and the reps around freedom, it's not the dems who betray their own principles when supporting blacklisting.
>>84101135
>However, some of Alex's tweets are so outrageously bad (the foghorn sounds one for instance) that they really do deserve constant scorn and ridicule.
Yeah but why do you need to do that here?
>>84090157
>Actually does this guy post here?
Based on his previous work, it's entirely possible.
>>84099128
Wasn't Wendys red suit a reference to The Sandlots lifeguard?
>>84101335
I'm not sure if Wendy's swimsuit is a reference to anything considering red is pretty much a staple of life guards by this point.
>2014 Alex
>Happy-go-lucky man who likes to drink and party. Oversees a popular and well-beloved TV show. Treats large fanbase with respect, and even ends up dating one. /co/ idolizes him, and he even pops up in general threads once in a while.
>2016 Alex
>Has controversially ended his popular show due to conflicts with network. He cancels a 3rd season and rushes out a conclusion at the end of the 2nd season, and ends up alienating many fans and staff members. Has also dumped aforementioned GF in favor of his former employee. Fanbase is still large, but many are fed up with his endless stream of highly left-wing posts on Twitter. His alcoholism is evident, and is quite likely getting himself involved in a variety of other drugs. Can no longer visit /co/ lest he be shot on site.
He's literally /co/'s own Fraser. But has the other shoe dropped yet?
Lets talk about how Wendy should have ended the love interest trope teen sooner.
And became a badass protector/older sister to the pines twins way earlier.
During later half of season 2 i'm glad they turned her from a nothing love interest into a older mentor badass. Would have done the show better if they did that in late half of season 1 instead
>>84100070
Honestly I can’t tell, seemed to me he still liked the show.
someone tweet this at him next time he goes all LOLREPUBLICANS
>>84100324
>that picture
kek
>>84101534
I totally agree, she was a thousand times better that way, ironically I might have actually shipped Wendip if it was always like that, Dipper spilling spaghetti was just boring, painful to watch but Wendy herself was pretty damn cool when they let her be. Wanted more of that.
>>84101738
Post a link to the tweet. This is too good to be real
>>84101909
It isn't.
>>84097343
Disney kept on putting up hiatuses because Alex was constantly missing deadlines.
>>84101904
End the 1 sided love story in the first half of season 1.
Have her become the protector/role model at the end of season 1 and all through season 2.
Have Dipper and Pacifica be a thing.
Profit
>>84090465
>Bill breaks the circle
>Everyone gets mad at Mabel
I would love that so much. It would've been so much better than Stan's kiddy troubles
political discussion on /co/ usually sucks so have this weird japanese shit
>>84102038
why is mabel always a nun
>>84102051
skateboarding?
that's it.
Alright faggots
Explain to me why Human Bill is a fucking thing
Most autistic thing I have seen about the GF fandom besides Twincest
>>84102060
oh wait one more a padippica sandwhich.
>>84101534
>>84101904
It really feels like they had no idea what to do with her after Into the Bunker.
Alex"I have no idea how to write a female character that's not a stand in for my perfect twin sister"Hirsch
Wendy needed at least 1 episode focused on her development.
Save the twins from a monster, make her dad proud, give Dipper a heart-to-heart "I'm a teen, it's not all that great. Enjoy being a kid, don't grow up too fast." mentor talk. Wanting to grow up was Dipper's character trait.
Instead we got Roadside Attraction.
"Lol you have pictures of the friend you watch movies with!
what a creep!"
>>84102001
>Dipper and Pacifica
>be a thing.
Absoluteheresy.
>>84102103
this ^
>>84099852
We use guns to pretend we can stand up to the government if they ever get out of hand.
It's not true of course but it's a narrative where I can be a hero maybe sometime in the future and I'll be damned if you take that away from me.
>>84102073
1. Fans like gijinka.
2. A lot of fan art is coming out of Japan and asia where gijinka of everything is standard operating procedure
3. Bill is a shapeshifter, he turns into Soos when he first appears, he could turn human if he wants so it's not like Zootopia gijinka, it could happen on the show
4. It might might sense for Bill to turn into an attractive human to manipulate people
5. Girls want to fuck Bill but only the weird ones actually want to fuck triangles
>>84101148
You romanticize firetubes in a way that's almost poetic in how tragically sad it is. Guns are guns. They don't make heroes out of people and they don't secure freedom. They're a tool for the sane and a crutch for the paranoid and insecure. War is outdated, revolutions are fantasy and you probably have a job you should be doing instead of waxing lyrical about rights like you're the only one who understands them. They're subjective anyway, just because you or a bunch of racist power hungry fucks a little under 300 years ago thought they were profound or inalieable doesn't make it true.
You've built a moral tower of ivory on a bed of sand and none of this has to do with cartoons. Faggot.
>>84102078
japan likes reverse padippica
>>84097884
I've been opposed to the no fly list since it was introduced. It's *already*, in its current incarnation, curtailing important rights without due process.
Fuck off.
>>84101592
He liked the show a lot but more for its comedy episodes than the drama or mystery, and was pretty eh on S2B like everyone else was.
So This Is Basically isn't really showing his serious opinions unless he breaks character like with Mabel. It's just taking a piss out of the show.
>>84102001
>Have Dipper and Pacifica be a thing.
I like where this is going...
>>84102246
The person Hirsch was talking to didn't seem to agree with you (except when those lists are about guns).
>>84102224
>War is outdated
Are you actually retarded?
I missed Padippica week this year. Fuck.
>>84102282
Pacifica and Dipper were almost certainly going to be a cannon thing after the mansion episode.
Only reason why they didn't is for time I can only assume.
Go watch the mansion episode again. Its clearly set in stone
>>84102103
Wendy deserved better.
Americans have a fixation with guns because of our history of conquering an untamed wilderness full of natives and dangerous animals. That's what it boils down to.
>>84102371
Also that CG render is kind of creepy so here's a cute Wendy gif instead.
I think in general the staff were pretty bad at writing female characters and mostly just depicted them as stereotypes or plot devices.
>>84102371
source??
>>84102395
And also because it's written in the Bill of Rights which isn't even the original Constitution it's just something they slapped on to the Constitution which should never ever be changed or modified (unless it's modified by the Bill of Rights).
But fuck. The second amendment is about "a well regulated militia". What part of letting suspected terrorists or mentally ill people buy a gun screams "well regulated militia" to anyone?
>>84102453
http://lopa.cgsociety.org/art/3dsmax-3ds-characters-max-rigging-zbrush-animation-photoshop-gravity-falls-cartoon-wendy-ballisticpublishing-cfe-expose12-corduroy-3d-1376589
>>84102416
>here's a cute Wendy
>>84102371
>>84100504
We in America haven't had the power to overthrow the government for a long time, current military technology is way the fuck beyond any gun in existence. They'd instantly swat us down for good or ill.
But the American gun thing is cultural and emotional. People try to layer over their emotions with logic. People from other countries will never understand just like I don't understand Muslim women covering their hair.
That said, owning guns isn't bad, not as big a deal as people make it out to be, spree killings are still relatively rare, guns are a bigger problem in poor urban areas though.
But this is all fucking off-topic, let's talk about Journal 3 or something.
>>84102536
Super cute. Thanks.
>>84102371
>http://lopa.cgsociety.org/art/3dsmax-3ds-characters-max-rigging-zbrush-animation-photoshop-gravity-falls-cartoon-wendy-ballisticpublishing-cfe-expose12-corduroy-3d-1376589
A quick tribute to the Wendy Corduroy. I wanted to make her as close as possible to the original, with the exception of materials, perhaps.
The character is fully animation ready and features a custom in 3ds Max rig.
Hope you like it!
"The character is fully animation ready"
Get to it 4chan
>>84102601
>"The character is fully animation ready"
Oh fuck yes, somebody please make it happen.
>>84102553
I have to point out that what you are saying in regards to the american peoples ability to resist its government is largely untrue. It has been shown that a determined populace, armed with only small arms, is entirely capable of resisting the might of even superpowers.
The real question is the American peoples will to resist, as Americans lack the hardy nature of peasant guerrillas and their ability to tolerate the high casualties this kind of resistance brings about.
>>84102224
>racist power hungry fucks
Aaaand you're not worth anyone's time.
>>84102353
Alex's GF was like Pacifica. They split, she regressed to a shitty villain that got shit on.
>>84102440
I really really wanted Tambry especially to get more development
>>84102660
The only time I remember that happening in recent times, with recent technology, is when a people's revolution was backed up by the actual military force that is ultimately indifferent to who is the leader because they were the country's power in the first place.
>>84099949
He has a point though. Guns are huge deal in america compare to a lot of countries. To many outsiders, the issue feels rather alien.
>>84102702
I don't think you realize how long the production of these episodes takes,
>>84102710
Afghanistan, the first Chechen war, the Viet Minh, Khmer Rouge and the Bolsheviks revolution are just the ones I can name off the top of my head.
Anyone else feel that we as Gravity Falls lovers should kill Alex Hirsch so that he may not besmirch its existence with his preaching? Better he die still somewhat loved than live to become the next Orson Scott Card.
>>84103198
"Recent times with recent technology" meaning less than fifty years ago.
>>84103198
RECENT times. With drone tech and current American planes, bombs, etc. It would be impossible without the military helping out. The only real possibility is extremely high casualities to the point the government has no support any longer. And people would have to be very united. Guns wouldn't be the deciding factor, but united public opinion could.
>>84102965
Considering the amount of time it took the whole show to finish its two-season-long run, I'd say there was plenty of time for rewrites. I mean, it's not as if the end product was that great; it doesn't seem like they employed their extra time well.
>>84103314
no. it's more joyful to make him pay for his crimes by a slow, steady descent into madness.
let's turn our focus to a Season 3 and/or getting Dana to show tits
>it's a post-series GF thread
>talk about politics instead of cartoons
whelp
>>84103361
>>84103364
Technology has not changed as much as you seem to think it has, the toys are shinier but they don't fundamentally change the way this type of war is fought.
I should also point out that all but two of the examples I gave qualify your definition of "recent times" anyway.
>>84103490
Is this the Metal Gear thread?
>>84103545
War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles fought by mercenaries and machines. War - and its consumption of life - has become a well-oiled machine. War has changed. ID-tagged soldiers carry ID-tagged weapons, use ID-tagged gear. Nanomachines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. Genetic control. Information control. Emotion control. Battlefiled control. Everything is monitored and kept under control. War has changed. The age of deterrence has become the age of control.
>>84103490
>I should also point out that all but two of the examples I gave qualify your definition of "recent times" anyway.
Only if you're being very generous as to how long the Khmer Rouge were effective.
>Technology has not changed as much as you seem to think it has
Oh yes it fucking has are you kidding me.
We're at a point where actual involvement of human beings in the warzone is optional.
>>84103551
All this alternate universes and fancomics the fans make because the show never got as dark or plot-heavy as it advertised itself.
For all of its flaws, and there are tons of flaws, the SU fandom never needed this kind of stuff. Yet.
>>84102051
Because one of the staff drew an alt version of Bipper in the reverend costume with Babel in a nun outfit.
>>84102073
It's nothing new or unique to the GF fandom, humanizations have been around for near as long as humanity has been.
>>84103619
or japan likes moe Pacifica
All 3D Models of Gravity Falls
http://lopa.cgsociety.org/
>>84103603
>We're at a point where actual involvement of human beings in the warzone is optional
Maybe if you don't intend to win the war.
This is a very American attitude to warfare, this belief that advanced technology and abundant resources can adequately replace human endeavour and the shedding of blood. This currently remains a fantasy, as drones alone cannot win wars, you still need actual soldiers to hold territory and close with the enemy.
But all of this is academic as the American people don't have the willpower to withstand a long term guerrilla campaign fighting their own government. The US would need to become a seriously terrible place to live for that to happen.
How to fix Bill
>>84104168
That's easy. Bill should have turned the entire Pines family into his harem, satisfying a huge chunk of the fanbase both here and abroad. Alex let his fans down.
Throw in Pyronica and a revived Giffany making Wendy and Pacifica sex slaves too and everyone would have been happy.
>>84104494
what is this?
>>84090157
>>84090169
>The Mabel at the end of the series and the Mabel in the first episode are almost exactly the same.
Really though, you could say that about Dipper too.
>>84100806
True. But WOY was smart enough to not put up too many stakes it had to meet.
>>84099852
Its even weirder because they have an official militia and yet think a regular tosser on the street qualifies as a regulated militia
>>84102371
What's really sad is that with another season Wendy could have become a fleshed out character and Pacifica could have continued to grow.
>>84097353
Well he did make korgot of barbaria.
>>84100504
>'people should have guns so as always to make the government know that its people can will and should depose you if you are too overreaching'.
Actually its more " we need cheap militias cause the british taxpayers are kicking our ass."
Your personal freedom was never in question.
>>84092978
I just want Reverse Mabel to make Reverse Pacifica her pet. Is that really so bad?
>>84103619
I don't think the amount of AU has much to do with the presence or lack of mysteries so much as the actual content of the show. They set up a universe where, in theory, anything could happen, so there's a ton of room to play around.
SU fans just exercise this is differently by creating a billion terrible Donut Steel-tier Gem OCs.
Having no real discussion other than this political crap makes me really sad, watching Gravity Falls after it aired is one of my biggest regrets. I missed so many threads.
>>84090157
Could not agree more about Mabel. I regularly rant about this to my friends, even though the show's been over for months.
>>84106224
the only thing you "missed" was a metric shitton of incest
Here, have some new Giffany from pixiv.
>>84106042
I think with Reverse Falls at least it got popular because people wanted to fuck the Mabel, but then stayed popular because people could switch up their shipping dynamics.
Like Padippica? Well, what if instead of a sassy femdom-y Pacifica and awkward Dipper Dipper was a suave guy and a moe Pacifica had an akward crush on HIM? That kind of thing.
For Monster Falls and some of the others yours if definitely the reason though I think.
>>84093348
it's because bill is my fucking wife
>>84093348
japan is very confused and think that Bill is Keroro Gunsou
>>84107709
...or BETTER?
>>84107250
People complain that characters were pushed aside for bullshit, or that Bill was a wasted villain, but Giffany is the real tragedy of the show. An extremely attractive woman, who will go full yandere to protect you, while acting submissive at all other times. She can control devices, and travel through the Internet. Plus she's a computer program. It's the reason why Quorra from Tron Legacy is so attractive; not because it's Olivia Wilde, but because she doesn't really exist.also more Giffany pics please
>>84107752
maybe. If Gravity Falls had been made in Japan they would have made Bill the main character and would be shitting out manga and merchandise for 15-20 more years.
Super glad they at least did something for Wendys character.
>>84107802
Giffany did nothing wrong.
I'm not kidding. She really didn't.
Goodnight, sweet princess.
>>84107802
>>84106224
The show has really great fan art. Look for that. For fanfic you're mostly screwed unless you like incest and/or gay shit with a few notable exceptions. Discussions were mostly decoding shit. There.
>>84102601
Are her clothes removable as layers? I mean aside from wondering if they modeled real breasts and a bra or whatnot, it'd be nice to see her in the shirt
>>84107178
It was literally the only good pairing in the show
Wendy was inconsistent as hell, early on they played her way older than she actually was and later made it clearly its only a 2 year difference which is pretty small even in high school, freshman dated juniors all the time. It was like the writers were doing a "will they won't they" themselves with the writers not knowing if Dipper and Wendy was suppose to be a thing or not
Pacifica might have actually been a decent alternative if she had gotten a single episode after her redemption
Really that just left Pinecest to be the only actually reasonable ship left. also lets be honest /co/ is actually pretty pro incest
>>84108437
It probably didn't help that wasn't really any viable options to be found in the adultsthat weren't incesteither.
>>84108437
this is probably why non-incest fans either fell into a frenzy of crack pairings or desperately twisted Wendip to work or went ballistic when Pacifica vanished into thin air as soon as she actually became interesting
>>84108437
>Pinecest
A great ship.
Mabifica is good too.
Pinecest+Pacifica is best of all though.
>>84093348
>giant-breasted Pacifica
We need more of that.
>>84093535
>>84093673
/svtfoe/ has the lore of /gfg/
/tlhg/ has the incest of /gfg/
both have the waifufaggotry.
>>84099852
>What exactly do you do with the guns?
1) Family protection
2) Hunting dangerous or delicious animals
3) Keeping the king of England out of our faces
>>84096495
Man, I wish Alex Hirsch wouldn't do this this stuff. Remember back in season 1 when everyone practically worshipped him?
>>84101534
>Lets talk about how Wendy should have ended the love interest trope teen sooner.
They did that in Into the Bunker, but they had to dig up Wendip's Corpse back up for Roadside Attraction.
>>84102353
>Only reason why they didn't is for time I can only assume.
It's possible NWM was just Alex throwing a bone to the Pacificafags. Alex said he was very surprised at her popularity in his AMA, and there is a semiofficial crossword that had hints for the various characters, with Pacifica being described as a spoiled brat.
>>84102073
fujoshits and homosexuals wanting to self-insert as and/or have sex with the Onceler.
>>84107802
>>84107880
>>84108003
Good news: Alex confirmed Giffany is alive, and you'll be able to find more about her fate inthe Journal 3 that should be coming out soon. Preorder now!!
>>84108656
>Pacifica vanished into thin air as soon as she actually became interesting
How long until it stops hurting, /co/?;_;
>>84109051
>Pinecest+Pacifica is best of all though.
It's called Pineswest.
>>84109332
>We need more of that.
Didn't 47k take a bunch more requests recently? We need only be patient.
>>84093348
Dipper and Bill have the most longevity. Dipper because he's the best and Bill because i dont fucking know.
>>84109387
>It's called Pineswest.
Thats the name I always preferred but Pinescifica seems a lot more common.
I've heard Pacipines too.
>>84109397
>Bill because i dont fucking know.
Meme character and that's what memes do.
>>84104765
No, you really can't. He was a completely different character by the end of the first season, let alone second. He started off as a socially awkward coward to a sarcastic hero. Northwest Manor Mystery really shows off just how much he grew.
>>84107178
>the only thing you "missed" was a metric shitton of incest
I really do miss it sometimes /co/...
How many years did I spend on that general? Jesus.
>>84109785
Dipper still spills his sphagetti at the drop of a hat by the seasons end though.
Plus, physical courage was never really his problem. He was fighting gnomes and evil wax historical figures and doing crazy Manotaur bullshit within the first week of finding the journal, its just that he's kind of a wiener when it comes to dealing with other people.
So.
Did you do it, /co/?
He told you.
HE TOLD YOU!
Remember?
He is always right.
He knows everything.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/27/investing/gold-brexit/index.html
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/gold-at-2-year-high-in-post-brexit-rally-2016-06-27
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-27/gold-surges-for-a-second-day-as-investors-seek-brexit-havens
http://gulfnews.com/business/gold-rate/brexit-s-impact-on-gold-will-prices-hit-1-400-1.1852714
http://marketrealist.com/2016/06/expect-the-unexpected-the-brexit-spurs-gold/
If you defied him you have only yourself to blame.
>>84110020
I thought buying gold was a good idea in general? Which is why there's all those commercials going on saying they'll pay cash for it.
>>84110162
It really depends on the market. The stupid thing is just conspiracy nuts assuming gold would be worth anything in case of an apocalypse. Sure you can use it for a few things but food, medicine, weapons would be worth a lot more at least for a while if civilization really totally fell apart.
Did little girls shipping billdip really cause the recent downfall in western civilization, as tumblr predicated?
I'm tired of /co/-related things acting like it's ok when girls are selfish shits in general. What I don't get about people acting shocked in this case is them not being more used to seeing it by now. It was at least cuter with Mable than with a lot of characters and on a show where others didn't get called on their shit often, either.
>>84090157
Jelloapocalpyse still needs to do more "welcome to X" shorts.
>>84109332
>Good news: Alex confirmed Giffany is alive, and you'll be able to find more about her fate in the Journal 3 that should be coming out soon. Preorder now!!
Thank god she's okay and this is the only reason I might buy the journal. God damn it.
My goddess of love...
>>84111157
Spirit of beauty...
>>84111173
In any and all of her forms...
The mods haven't pruned this thread yet? interesting
>>84102159
>We use guns to pretend we can stand up to the government if they ever get out of hand.
>It's not true of course
>country with 300 million people
>10 million+ firearms
>vs 700,000 or so military personnel
>in a country 3.1 million square miles in area
Uh...
>>84111229
Yeah, let's just compare raw numbers, not the amount of equipment or technology or training or fucking everything else they would have.
>>84111216
It's like they actually realize there are better things to do. Quite hope-inspiring, really.
oh wild-cobragirl
>>84102159
Sometimes it's a matter of making something a big enough pain in the ass to do. Also, you're only counting them getting completely out of hand.
>>84111276
But man, we had the strongest army in the world and we couldn't defeat a Third World country like Vietnam.
>>84111276
>>84111601
>Thinking the armed forces would ever turn around and open fire on their own that wasn't in a small scale riot or something
>>84111601
Stakes were a lot lower there than in a theoretical coup. I think if absolutely everyone worked together we could do it but there would but absolutely massive casualties and some backwoods militia with minority support could not accomplish it, no. The government would have to be incredibly awful to spur or justify it. Look at what we're doing today in the Middle East with a few drones vs. their armed groups and again, much lower stakes.
Sorry, still cute.
You have no idea how hard it is to put down an insurgency, especially one with the support of the populace, especially since most insurgencies also receive backing from foreign governments hoping to capitalize on the situation (as was the case in Vietnam and Afghanistan).
>>84107514
Will is my waifu because he is so submissive and malleable. If you were actually nice to him he would do whatever you want.
>>84097743
>>84097813
>There were 5 years between the premiere and finale.
>Someone who was 15 when it started would be twice that age now.
>>84111736
Eyes are normal on the left. Cosplay or fuck-up?
>>84112109
I thought possessed Mabel always wore a nun's habit
>>84096414
>Steven Universe has Pink Diamond, Rose's role in the Rebellion, Pearl's backstory, Garnet as a fusion, the Diamond Authority in general, and Lion, which is just off the top of my head.
Dude I like SU but come on.
>Pink Diamond is Rose/Rose is a part of PD
>See above
>Pearl was PD's servant
>literally spelled out in the pilot
>a bunch of really tall aliens, three of whom are DEAD
>Gem shard + fauna fusion experiment by PD and/or Rose
>>84112324
...okay, looking around now I see people dress her in other things too, but I do dig the common nun with a chainsaw motiff. Too bad she was never in the show.
>>84107381
There should be more Reverse Wendip especially with the forced to work for the Pines angle, lots of sexual coercion potential there.
>>84111014
My guess is the journal will be filled with stuff that was meant for season 3 before Alex decided to just make two seasons.
>>84112601
As with most things involving Reverse Pines, the problem is that writers have different takes on what is "canon."
My personal idea would be that Reverse Windip mirrors the show in that Wendy is uninterested in a smitten Dipper. In this case Dipper's interest in her is partially attraction and partially him seeing it as a personal challenge to win her over without coercion.
Would you take her hand?
>>84110020
I didn't but I own a lot of silver, which is also going up. I always liked silver more because it's more versatile for the most part in it's demand.
You guys thing Alex's Twitter campaign for an Emmy will work?
>>84112601
I've never seen it outside of some age-reversed stuff.
>>84101335
Indeed it was.
Dipper's "eventually marry Wendy" line was homage to Sqints too.
>>84101335
>>84113358
>Her name is Wendy Peffercorn...
>>84113028
Sadly for me people seem totally fixated on this pairing...
>>84109874
>Dipper still spills his sphagetti at the drop of a hat by the seasons end though.
You seem to be confusing the idea of character development with "character solves all character flaws over the course of the show". Of course Dipper still has flaws. Every character will always have flaws. But that doesn't mean he didn't undergo character development in other aspects of his personality.
>>84099867
Sort of off topic but it might have been cool to just learn a tiny bit about what Bill's whole deal is. Some people were talking about whether you should feel bad for Bill or not and the thing is you don't know, because we don't know what the fuck was even up with him, save for like one line in the finale that could have been more bullshit. Some people just lift the entire book Flatland wholesale for his backstory and in that case, yeah I feel bad for him, because Flatland is a shit dimension, but who knows if that's what happened. Why did he even do the crap he did? We have no idea.
>>84113362
I liked how I was watching through Lilo and Stitch lately and Pleakley explained what his first name meant in his peoples' culture.
>>84113966
I forget, what did Pleakly's name mean?
>>84090157
>rightfully calling amethyst out on her shit in SU
>calling mabel out too
Dudes pretty on point.
>>84090169
I agree, at least with everything regarding Mabel.
She went from top 3 best characters in season 1 to number 1 biggest cunt of season 2.
>>84113966
Thanks for that info.
Here. Have a head that's always screaming...
Like someone said, I just shouldn't have read all those fanfictions about Bill raping and murdering thousands, then maybe the finale would have been scary.
>>84113966
Wendy could have been so much better if she did more action stuff
>>84113987
I thought there was more to it than "brave warrior" but apparently after watching it again it was simply that. Still fits, though.
>>84114774
>>84114774
Go to Twitter and use the hashtag Dippernomicon.
In that book is a page dedicated to Wendy.
>deepest lore
[She's Venus.]
>>84114960
just post the link
>>84115094
Think this is what the Autist was trying to post
http://imgur.com/gallery/N7XTk
>>84115143
Yeah that.
>>84090275
>#ff87a8
Top kek,are we doing HTML lessons again?
Any fast draw requests for huge tits Pacifica?
>>84112347
>Pink Diamond is Rose
The fact that we can legitimately disagree on that shows how well the mystery is hidden.
Except it shouldn't be all that hidden HER NAME IS LITERALLY "QUARTZ" SHE'S NOT A DIAMOND
>Pearl was PD's servant
>Not WD
![1702565981ce8ca2228f0d99a5f250122adb4e32[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/0fC0a5k.png "1702565981ce8ca2228f0d99a5f250122adb4e32[1]")
>>84116660
Huge Tits Pacifica dressed up as Golden Girl (the one in yellow.)
>>84114960
>>84115143
There wasn't a single page dedicated to her at all
>the only time Alexander the Manlet even tweets about Gravity Falls anymore is begging for a Emmy
fucking pathetic! Alex suicide by sneaking onto a roller coaster he's not tall enough to ride when?
>>84090421
>80% filler episodes like SU
Nice meme!
>>84110020
I invest in Helium instead
>>84090275
If only Gravity Falls lore was actually this deep.
>>84112347
Everything you listed isn't even confirmed in the show, which verifies the mystery
How intelligent do you think each Mystery Shack is?
>>84117924
*Each Mystery Shack character
>>84097141
Thanks. Now I know about the Berenstein/Berenstain theory. That was a fun read.
>All questions were left unanswered
What? I just finished the series today. What was unanswered?
>>84118827
The Mandela effect is so stupid. "I didn't misremember that, it was the universe that changed."
>>84117727
>>84117727
Legend says it's in the Allies and Enemies section of the Dippernomicon...
Wendy is a warrior princess associated with Venus, although technically, Venus has no moon, so take the quote with a grain of Smile Dip.
Maybe it was just a half page, or maybe just a quote in the corner of a page.
>>84118827
There were a lot of hints throughout the second season that Gravity Falls had a deeper involvement with Bill: the Northwest family having a shrine to Bill in their house, the Blind Eye's hideout looked to be a repurposed structure that had symbols that you see in Ford's visions and journals, McGucket even mentions running into a secret society of geometry worshippers, etc. It seemed like it was going lead into the explanation/reaveal of what Bill's endgame was, but it was never brought up again so it seems like it was cut for time. Which was a little disappointing.
There were also questions about Ford's time in the portal that a few people were hoping would be elaborated on a little more, and maybe some of the little questions like why Blind Ivan is in Journal 3, where Robbie got the mind control CD, and so forth.
A lot of the questions that weren't answered are minor enough that they aren't that big of a deal, though considering how rushed the second half of the last season was you do get the impression that they had much bigger plans in mind for the finale that they didn't get to full utilize.
>>84117832
That sounds like a lot of hot air.
Man, I miss GF but I can't go back to hiatuses and guessing secrets and 600 pages of possible lore everyday. And fighting the goddam capefag mods. GF was so exhausting. The end sucked and we should have had a third season, but I'm also glad it's over.
I'm so tired. Imagine I posted Dipper's lamby striptease sequence or Mabel's ice cream sequence for you. It's too much work today.
>>84119117
>the Northwest family having a shrine to Bill in their house
I don't remember this. Maybe they bought it because they're rich and it looked good. Shitty explanation, but possible.
>It seemed like it was going lead into the explanation/reaveal of what Bill's endgame was
Conquering the world?
>where Robbie got the mind control CD
Wasn't he just using subliminal messages?
> the Blind Eye's hideout looked to be a repurposed structure that had symbols that you see in Ford's visions and journals
The Blind's Eye was founded by McGucket wasn't it? And McGucket knew about Bill when he was working with Ford.
>There were also questions about Ford's time in the portal that a few people were hoping would be elaborated on a little more
I agree with this. But it was probably just him surviving in Bill's
> Blind Ivan is in Journal 3
I don't remember this either. What episode?
![Gravity.Falls.S01E09.The.Time.Travelers.Pig.1080p.WEB-DL.AAC2.0.H.264-iT00NZ.mkv_snapshot_16.49_[2016.06.28_13.07.44].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MgU61Q9.jpg "Gravity.Falls.S01E09.The.Time.Travelers.Pig.1080p.WEB-DL.AAC2.0.H.264-iT00NZ.mkv snapshot 16.49 [2016.06.28 13.07.44]")
i dont think the future segments get enough hate here. it just felt completely out of line with the rest of the show. its like something out of family guy.
So I started binging the series and just finished it a few hours ago. I personally loved it.
I haven't been on /co/ the entirety of Gravity Falls lifetime, but it seems that the consensus is that it's great up until Season 2 episode 11: Not What He Seems. Also that the finale sucked. Am I right on this?
>>84120002
everyone likes Time Traveler's Pig, but I'm one of the few people who thinks it's one of Season 1's biggest duds.
>>84120035
Yeah. A while ago someone made an archive post of the talkback threads for each episode. The fan reception on 4chan really soured during the second half of season two.
In the early threads of season two, people were even praising Alex for how much things had improved.
>>84090157
Oh fuck, I just saw that two days ago and it had me rolling.
>Mabel
>ever one of the best characters
She was an annoying bitch from the start.
>>84097626
~autism~
>>84120058
What was wrong with the second half of season two? I really enjoyed how they were wrapping up everything that was foreshadowed. They even put just enough filler episodes for you to see the daily life with Stanford in there.
>>84090867
I'd watch that show.
>>84120149
Everyone has autism on 4chan.
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This show really needed more foot scenes
>>84119912
>Maybe they bought it because they're rich and it looked good.
Pacifica's father also had his own memory canister on the shrine in Blind Eye's hide-out, which was shown to be where the most important memories, and the same episode where they showed the Bill Cipher shrine in their home home also showed that the Northwest have a long history of covering up shady shit, so it's not exactly unlikely that someone in the Northwest family was involved with Bill at some point.
>The Blind's Eye was founded by McGucket wasn't it
When you look at the hideout, it's clearly older than Blind Eye could be, and there's symbols carved into the walls that match the symbols on the larger version of the zodiac that shows in Ford's journal and later his dreams - which seems to suggest that not only were there generational zodiacs for each step in Bill's plan, but that there was another cult or society before Fiddleford took it over and made the Blind Eye.
>I don't remember this either. What episode?
It shows up a couple times, but the first time is in Dreamscaperers. It also shows up once or twice in the first part of Weirdmaggedon.
>>84120035
Yeah, that's the consensus. Well, people are divided on the finale, but thinking it sucked isn't an unpopular opinion.
>>84120164
The problem was season 2b didn't have enough in it. Aside from NWHS backstory and the finale, there were only about 4 episodes of other stuff, and those had mostly little to no paranormal activity and little to no Ford. It was honestly underwhelming, especially after NWHS.
The series also has a problem with loose ends.
>Stan's tattoo?
Oh just a random burn mark
>The wheel?
Doesn't get used in the end, massive Chekhov's gun violation
>Stan's similarities to Bill?
Red herring.
Why don't we make /cog/?
i came over to this show because people told me mabel was like homura akemi
as it turns out the only thing mabel and homura have in common is destroying the known universe
but where as homura MEANT to do it as an ultimate rejection of Kierkegaardian ideals
mabel did it because she's a dumb little slut
>>84120308
>>Stan's similarities to Bill?
>Red herring.
I actually didn't mind this so much since it kind of felt foreshadowing to Stan and Bill's confrontation in the finale.
What did seem odd though was that the show went out of its way to make sure that Stan and Bill never had any direct contact with each other and make it as ambiguous as possible whether or not Stan even knew who Bill was, but then when the finale rolled around Stan just handwaves it like "oh Bill, I guess I know him or whatever"
Seems like a lot of effort to keep those two characters from interacting, especially when their combined personalities would've been a lot of fun to bounce off each other.
>>84120222
All good points that I missed. Probably because I binged it.
>>84120308
>Stan's tattoo? Oh just a random burn mark
Why was this one bad? I understand why he wouldn't want to explain the mark to Dipper and Mabel
>The wheel? Doesn't get used in the end, massive Chekhov's gun violation
I think that was the point. Some shows do this to make the situation feel more hopeless and leaving the characters to resort to more drastic measures.
>Stan's similarities to Bill? Red herring
What similarities?
> those had mostly little to no paranormal activity
The only one that wasn't paranormal was The Stanchurian Candidate, which was more Sci-fi because of the mind control, so it was still ok.
> there were only about 4 episodes of other stuff, and those had mostly little to no paranormal activity and little to no Ford. It was honestly underwhelming, especially after NWHS.
I still really enjoyed those episodes, but I can understand feeling underwhelmed if you watched those episodes while they were being released. I read about Disney's weird schedule for releasing the episodes. Again, I binged it so I was satisfied with the quicker pace back to the main story and fewer fillers.
>>84120644
>Why was this one bad? I understand why he wouldn't want to explain the mark to Dipper and Mabel
Different anon, but the amount of attention that was directed at the tattoo set up that it was important that the viewers notice it, and therefore set up the expectation that was much more important to the plot then it later turned out.
Not only was there a whole short dedicated to the tattoo, but before there were ciphers and codes encouraging that viewers pay attention to his tattoo, Bill's introduction had Bill show the tattoo symbol when he thinks of "Stanley" specifically, and showing it was burned into his skin when it was finally revealed how he got seemed like too symbolic of a gesture for it to not be addressed at least one more time before the show ended - even (or maybe especially) if it was just meant to be a physical representation of the current state of Ford and Stan's relationship.
>>84121104
The ciphers and codes probably encouraged you to pay attention to the tattoo because you can find it in the lab early on in Season 2.
>Bill's introduction had Bill show the tattoo symbol when he thinks of "Stanley" specifically, and showing it was burned into his skin when it was finally revealed how he got seemed like too symbolic of a gesture for it to not be addressed at least one more time before the show ended
I see your point.
I think what happened with Bill was that he noticed the tattoo and made the association that if Stanley has the tattoo, that means he knows about the lab and is probably trying to safe his brother. This is probably a stretch though.
>>84091002
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>>84120055
Same here, man.
It set the stage for a dozen more "Dipper gives up thing for Mabel" episodes
>>84120002
Whats stupid about it is that it preempts the entire finale.
Like who gives a fuck if Bill and his cronies are going to fuck up the world if it ends up fucked up in the future anyway?
Maybe its just more vindictive of how Alex Hirsch wants the world to end up. It will more or less look like that if liberals like him get their wish.
>>84121477
>that means he knows about the lab and is probably trying to safe his brother
Well, the problem with that theory was that it was already established right before that scene that Bill already what Stan had been doing: One of the "lots of things" he reveals is Stan going to the basement, when disguised as Soos he sees the same memory he shuts the door on it for being "boring" because he already knows that information, and the he suggest a couple times to Gideon and other characters that he has a limited foresight into the future (though admittedly he could be lying on this front) So it seems rather redundant if having Bill associate Stan with the symbol on his tattoo is meant to indicate that, especially when they other scenes in the same episode that did the same thing.
Branding also tends to be associated with either a sign of ownership of something/someone or a sign that the person with the brand as being condemned - such as marking them as a criminal or somehow undesirable/cursed/doomed - so having it be the first thing Bill thinks of when it comes to Stan rather than something like the symbol on his fez might've set people on edge and added to the feeling that the show wanted viewers to pay attention to his tattoo. That's just speculation on my part though.
>>84121703
>Maybe its just more vindictive of how Alex Hirsch wants the world to end up. It will more or less look like that if liberals like him get their wish.
I forgot how much the democrats tried to shill the "giant laser beam shooting baby for president" bill last year.
>>84121946
That's why they wanna take our guns away, so the laser shooting babies can roll all over us!
>>84121946
That was going to be the Bernie baby but it died of SIDS
>>84122176
>SIDS
That IDS was all but S
>>84100504
> America
> Not tyrannical
>>84120002
No the Time Baby shit is retarded, the Family Guy comparison is apt. Just a reminder that the show fluctuated between attempts at drama and being FG ish, too nonsense and cheesy to take the slightest bit seriously. It's true that we shouldn't give a shit about an apocalypse when we know the world will be destroyed by a giant baby and its stinky diaper in the silliest and stupidest way.
>>84102078
i never realized before that dipper is satoshi. i kind of need to see the cast drawn in full-on pokémon style now
>>84102103
>Alex"I have no idea how to write a female character that's not a stand in for my perfect twin sister"Hirsch
but wendy is a stand-in for his crush lauren faust
also, 'don't grow up too fast' is insanity. you can't grow up too fast, that's like being too smart. you can 'act older than you are' which leads to problems, but that's writing a check you can't cash, not 'having too much cash'
>>84102660
we're not even resisting the news media purchasing the political process so they can cash in on the lulz and clickbaiting. pretty sure it's all fucked
>>84099852
shoot the other people with guns before they shoot you
it's slightly fucked up, but it's 100% unavoidable, because there's no such thing as disarmament that works on the bad guys. it's sort of like freeze-distillation. it's really easy to remove tons of water from alcohol right away, but the tiny bit left is too hard to freeze out. those holdouts are always the worst, because they're holding on the tightest.
>>84097785
He is over 18 now.
Gravity falls had a lot of hiatuses
>>84120480
That comparison was always bullshit. Complaints aside Homura is very active and competent, she rewrites reality entirely on purpose. Maybe if Mabel had made Bill her bitch and co opted Weirdmageddon for her own puposes she would deserve the comparison. Actually I remember something like that was a theory about what might happen with the bubble business but instead nothing happened and it was a pointless diversion that made no sense but well it was a cartoon for kids.
>>84123094
How was it pointless? It was her prison.
What show do I watch if I'm going through Gravity Falls withdrawal?
>>84120482
I somewhat suspect that at some point some notion arose to expound on the various symbols, some things about the town and Bill, the zodiac which started out as decoration but by the end of season 1 I think there was some idea to do something more with it, but these things were jettisoned when they decided for 2 seasons instead of 3. I'm not mad about that choice by the way, it might have been the right call, it's just a shame for me, I agree with others that 3 seasons would have been ideal but you get what you get, hell we almost got only 1 season and an incomplete story.
>>84123211Star Vs the Forces of EvilandThe Loud Houseare pretty good the former if you like a little bit of lore, the latter if you like sibling relationships.
>>84123211
Whatever you do ignore Cancer House retards like Misha
>>84123182
There was no good reason to bother putting her in there that was made clear, she was Gideon's "reward" for doing the job of protecting Mabel which was utterly circular logic, you can rationalize it and explain it but the whole point was not clear in the actual show. Bill's behaviour with the symbols also didn't make much sense since he knew they were his weakness, he should have killed a few but it's a Disney cartoon and Bill was pretty stupid in the last two episodes (not noticing the barrier for three whole days or having the slightest idea about it/what to do about it after planning this for a billion years, chasing Mabel and Dipper around like a retard instead of just using his omnipotent reality controlling abilities to catch them.)
But people have said all this before.
Really the show just had some really strong and well executed moments so the more standard cartoon fare felt a little dissapointing, but it's not like it was bad, just more typical.
>>84123211
Both SvtFoE and yes heaven forbid SU have lore if that's what you liked. Also it's too bad Wander Over Yonder is over too but if you haven't seen it it deserves a watch. Same for the mini series Over the Garden Wall. Oh and the film Paranorman.
Now if you only like GF for incest shipping and that's it yes watch The Loud House.
Live action shows, old ones, kind of like GF: Twin Peaks and Eerie, Indiana.
>>84123505
I've seen the first two seasons of SU. I like waiting until a season is finished so I can binge it, so SU comes later.
I was mostly asking for animated tv shows but thanks for the other recs anyways.
Hopefully Wander Over Yonder will fill the void.
They're doing an art exhibition: http://www.gallerynucleus.com/gallery/564/exhibition
>>84124769
Wonder will talk about guns
>>84119912
>I don't remember this. Maybe they bought it because they're rich and it looked good. Shitty explanation, but possible.
See, that always made the most sense to me.
The Northwest mansion also had a bunch of indian type decorations in one of the halls and I'm pretty sure Preston wasn't an honorary chief of some tribe.
Is it just me, or are all animated show creators gigantic assholes? Butch Hartman, Craig McCracken, Alex Hirsch...
About shipping... I have mixed feelings about it. There really was no room for Dipcifica to expand, and Wendy/Dipper was handled horribly.
Anyways, since the show is over, we can make up our own endgame for the Dipster.
>>84127164
>Dipcifica
It's Padippica, you uncultured swine.
>>84127164
>Over the Garden Wall
How was Wendy/Dipper handled horribly? And they had time to at least throw in something quick for us. Like if they made Dipper have to hold hands with Pacifica in the circle and she blushes or something.
>>84127228
Calm down anon either it'sshit
>>84127164
>>84127762
The Over the Garden Wall thing was an accident. Also, the circle example wouldn't work because the design was already released with their set places in the circle. But either way you know what I meant.
Also, this wouldn't work because the
>>84127164
>Craig McCracken
>asshole
what
>>84127851
What the fuck is up with me today
Jesus Fucking Christ
>>84127164
Hartman isn't really an asshole. Lazy and hackish yes but he's also super polite on social media even though he deals with hordes of retarded fujoshit Danny Phantom fans. His YouTube videos aren't too bad either.
Craig has every reason to be jaded lately. He's lost one creation, and is watching another get raped before his very eyes.
>>84121703
That bothered me at first but
>Like who gives a fuck if Bill and his cronies are going to fuck up the world if it ends up fucked up in the future anyway?
is not true anymore since Bill killed Time Baby, leaving the future open for us to mold again.
>>84090157
The real problem with Mabel is that she had nothing to lose. She always has an upper hand on Dipper because she never has anything to sacrifice for a greater good.
Which is why Sock Opera is actually a good episode; Mabel actually gets something she's forced to give up to help her brother.
It'd be great if we saw a situation where Mabel had to, say, give up her friendships to help Dipper with his mysteries, because it's force her to give up something really important to her, and maybe force character development.
How smart do you think Dipper is?
>>84096495
Part of me wants to see Trump win, just so I can see what the hell Alex is gonna do
>>84128779
I'd say he's pretty above average. More than his peers for sure.
>>84128050
Unfortunately Alex said that Time Baby will put his atoms back together just in time to start his Time Baby dystopia bullshit, making that I guess an eternal loop where he gets killed by Bill over and over again. I'd feel bad for TB if he wasn't such a doofy joke character.
But the point is the Time Baby destroys the world thing still happens and is even mentioned in the sample choose your own adventure series released
It cuts into the drama of NWHS and DaMvtF a bit when you remember Family Guy future is the canon endgame for this world anyway.
Now does the future recover after TB goes back to the past, who knows but the world is still destroyed, I don't know if TB can escape the loop or had others who will take over the horrible future world and rule in his stead or what, Blendin survived so maybe he takes over
>>84128779
Not smart enough to call Mabel on her bullshit.
>>84101909
Anon, look, it says gullible on the ceiling!
>>84124769
Looks like they're accepting submissions. Dominica and Boybox should make some.
>>84128088
Friendships? Do you mean candy and grenda or some friendship within a single episode?
More naval gazing, when are they going to analyze Pinecest and the rumors that it killed the show?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKPWRn7V46c&lc=z12yfnxrpuz1hrn1l22cttzimqnexbmv1
>>84131482
>Tim Burton's Gravity Falls
Could possibly see myself wanting.
>>84131482
her hands are way too small
>>84090169
Yeah, I think its a pretty fair assessment though he should've gone into the 2B pacing slump.
>>84098860
This.
They should've kept her investment in the mysteries from Irrational Treasure.
>>84131694
>>84132149
absolutely agreed, would have saved her character
>>84132189
>>84096571
>hiatus
>>84101973
>Disney kept on putting up hiatuses because Alex was constantly missing deadlines.
Source? I'm inclined to believe you, I just want to hear it from somewhere less anonymous than /gfg/
>>84102103
>I have no idea how to write a female character
Yes, you're an expert on this subject. Soos' (living breathing) girlfriend was fine for example, as was his abuela.
>>84102601
WHERE'S THE FUCKING DOWNLOAD
>>84132446
I've seen that entire picture....
>>84132557
>Soos' (living breathing) girlfriend was fine for example, as was his abuela.
Yeah it was awesome how they had maybe ten minutes of screentime between them, such full and fleshed out female characters, wow.
>>84102103
But anon any sign of male sexuality or intimacy or any feelings at all is evil and needs to be punished by your sister letting strangers knock the shit out of you.
>>84132616
Yes you have. I like how I cropped it such that Google Image Search can't find the original.
Yet.
>>84132629
> muh entitlement
Yes, clearly this was a microaggression against you
>>84132711
/co/ only hates mabel now because she never fucked her brother like they all wanted, prove me wrong
>>84090344
>tfw when my interest in modern cartoons pretty much died with Gravity Falls and I've almost entirely stopped visiting /co/ since the finale
Gravity Falls just had the greatest high points and the shittiest low points out of any other modern show and that made for some seriously fun discussion, every other series just feels "ok" and not really worth talking about in comparison.
>>84133143
/thread
>>84133143
that feel when Loud House actually has funnier and better written (as believable children) characters than Manlet Falls or Fattie Universe
not even a troll either, because i loved this as it aired, but looking back, there were a LOT of shit episodes even in season one. and most people just have fond memories of a handful of "oh shit" moments like the portal being revealed, NWHS, or shipping shit like giffany or padippica. in essence the drama in the thread often was more entertaining than the episodes themselves.
>>84133585
>Cancer House
Stopped reading there
>>84133677
well its true. this show's threads are deader than adventure time and everyone has moved on.
>>84133779
Wrong. Not sure what AT has to do with anything either.
>>84097044
i'm glad she and her new beau are doing very well together
but i'm still kind of mad she never came back even once to see /gfg/ again
>>84102103
>Dipper and Pacifica
>be a thing.
>Absolute heresy.
Ironically, it works post-series.
>>84133585
look man I was let down too but Cancer House, seriously? Any other show and I'd hear you out
>>84090157
Pretty good
>>84128893
literally the only reason he and hillary are running. the media decided it would be funny this way and they could profit
>>84132115
why is she black from the waist down
is this some kind of weird AU, some kind of 3/5ths pun?
hey guys. guys.hat swap
>>84135294
Incest can do that to a person
>>84112347
>Pink Diamond is Rose
This theory is just as retarded as the old theory that Lapis was blue diamond.
>Quarts =/= Diamond
>Diamond == Diamond
>>84132115
She's wearing pantyhose.
>>84131247
I am at least happy that japan discovered the wonders of paddipicca
>>84135303
what about it?
>>84116660
>>84117623
What happened to this
>>84096495
I'm a liberal myself but holy fuck Alex's tweets make me cringe. I used to get notifications everytime he posted something back from when GF was still going and keeping them on until relatively recently was a nightmare.
>>84099482
~uguuu
>>84101506
Makes me worry about his upcoming show on FOX, if that project takes off, at least
>>84131694
jerkin it rite nao
>>84123211
If you want comfy you can always watch Harvey Beaks
So what do you think Alex's new show will be about?
>>84138860
I'm looking for something that has a good mix of comfy episodic stuff, a good main story, and a definitive end. I'll probably still watch Harvey Beaks though.
>>84115143
Finally just finished reading this
Fun read
>>84090169
>showed this to a mega-nerd fan of gravity falls I know
>He hates the video and claims it wasn't funny.
Why can't people laugh at mocking comments on the things they like?
>>84096495
>If you don't support my solution to the problem then you must not want the problem solved at all
>>84097892
Gravity Falls doesn't really even have a backstory, just "This otherwise normal small town was founded by a crazy guy and is a hotspot for weird shit because reasons, also there's a demon triangle that destroyed his own dimension and now wants to take over our one."
>>84138888
Whatever it will be about, its probably gonna suck and not be on the same level as GF. Mark my words, Alex will be a one hit wonder, and as soon as he realizes it, he'll go back to the series that made him popular in the first place. Then we will get GF season 3
>>84141940
to late for season 3 as the show ended.
They would either have to give it a season twice as long for plot and character
(Bill,Wendy,Robie,Mabel,Ford ect).
Or say the ending never happened and continue from the last regular episode.
>>84142408
*plot and character development
>>84090236
yes he is right, mables got away with everything and dipper gets fucked. women are horrible creatures.
>>84097626
It's pretty obvious when you watch season two that the finale should have been the arrival of the brother.
As a result, he gets absolutely no character development when he could have been a fantastic character.
>>84141377
Is he a Mabel fan?
>>84142837
Just plain sickening how badly Alex just gave up
>>84090867
All those cartoons in the polaroid sequence. Though they included an Estonian one.
>>84130027
I'm going to participate in a GF fanzine which is going to be a really cool project, there's some really good artists involved, there'll probably more info about this going around when it'll be relevant
>>84099852
Gun control is an issue to debate about because common sense (regulating who can get guns is a good idea) is in direct conflict with the Constitution (the right to bear arms shall not be infringed). This causes problems, because the Constitution can never be wrong.
