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Why does everbody blame Stark for Ultron when Wanda mindraped
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Why does everbody blame Stark for Ultron when Wanda mindraped him in to doing it?

Is it because she's cute?
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>>84047552
She didn't make him do anything. She just made him see his worst fears. He already had the army of robots at that point, he just didn't have a central AI for them.

And when he is talking to Banner later, they talk about Ultron as if this was a plan they had been working on ever since THE BATTLE OF NEW YORK(tm)
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>>84047552
If Wanda mind controlled Tony to build Ultron, then why was it so difficult for him to understand that Bucky was mind controlled to kill his parents?
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>>84047580
Because he's a hypocritical bitch.
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>>84047552
Because Wanda did everything wrong.
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Wanda was a mistake.
Have mercy and end her suffering.
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>blames the manufacturer of the bomb that killed her family and not the people who fired it like a moron
>signs up to hydra, a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION and lets them experiment on her for revenge
>attacks her enemies group of friends who do nothing but try to protect innocent people
>mindrapes her enemy and lets him go with an extremely dangerous weapon as if nothing bad would happen for the ebin lulz
>when that doesnt pan out teams up with an obviously GENOCIDAL KILLING MACHINE
>hmm lets set the Hulk loose on a rampage near Johannesburg I'm sure no civilians will get hurt :^)
>almost gets the ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET destroyed because she abandons the doomsday device she promised to guard to get revenge on the robot that was going to be destroyed soon anyway
>extremely overpowered mind control and telekenetic powers but is somehow still worse than useless on the team and gets dozens of random people killed by levitating a suicide bomber next to a building
>gets uppity that Vision wouldn't let her go down to the shops when it's obviously for her own safety
>stabs him in the back to get involved in Cap's stupid mission for no reason other than being a bitter bitch where she does nothing but rack up more property damage costs
>was fucking her brother on the down low according to the actors, literally an incestuous slut

glad she is stuck in The Raft getting raped by the guards every day, she deserves it
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>>84047720
nice pasta tbqh pham

>glad she is stuck in The Raft getting raped by the guards every day
She's not, Cap broke them all free.
Probably blew up the Raft with all the guards inside too.
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>>84047720
What did she even want to do outside? Why didn't Vision just get her a video game console?
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>>84047782
Vision would get jealous.
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>>84047552
Everyone wants to protect her.
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>>84048098
No one does. They all hate her. She is just a tool and not even a good one
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>>84048134
>all hate her
Not really.
Hell, Cap only started doubting about the Accords when he was told she was being held hostage
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>>84048137
Yeah but Cap likes everyone, that doesn't count.
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>>84047552
Because women can't rape men. Always blame the male in any issue.
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>>84048163
Who's Cap?
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>>84048181
Really?
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>>84048209
Oh, you meant CAPtain American.

I'll be honest though, Cap isn't exactly a desirable nickname. Jefe would have been better or some shit like that.
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>>84048163
She's Vision's waifu.
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>>84047580

But he seeks redemption and oversight so it doesn't happen again.

Cap and Buckley are just... fuck governments I'll put countless people at risk because FRIENDSHIP.

>half of those police officers outside the apartment are paralyzed or dead
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>>84048383
>Buckley
Made me laugh.
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>>84047552
Whedon.
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>>84047552
>Is it because she's cute?
Yes.
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>>84048234
His name is Steve, not Jeff. Also, you must be a foreigner.
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>>84048383

We're talking about a universe where an alien invasion killed about 50 people. Not only were none of those police officers killed but they were able to return to work the next day.
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>>84048098
>Everyone wants to protect her smiles.
FTFY
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>>84048234
Jefe means boss and Cap isn't a boss of anything
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>>84047720
t. Tony
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>>84047782
What video games do you think the Avengers would play?
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>>84047720
Wanda a shit
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>>84047552
sad, depressed self-hating Tony is my kink
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>>84048253
>She's Vision's waifu.

Not just Vison's, anon.
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>>84047552
Ultron was more of a freak accident, and was more born of Hydra's experiments with the staff than Tony simply leaving Jarvis to run sentience integration trials with it. Tony actually failed to create Ultron, and he instead just sort of formed while Jarvis was interacting with the staff, a fact that most people seem to forget. Probably why Tony isn't really getting roasted for it as much as you'd think.

Wanda's got a lot worse to answer for, as illustrated by >>84050260 and >>84050260.
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>>84050231
Injustice: Gods Among Us
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>>84050260
Which one does she want?
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>>84050260
If Tony didn't exist she would still have a family, not a single one of Tony's enemies would have become villains, Ultron wouldn't have existed and the Avengers would still be one team.
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>>84047661
She ALWAYS does everything wrong, that is pretty much her character, even in the comics she became the punching bag around early 2000's
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This thread's getting awfully Bendis.
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>>84050532
The Avengers wouldn't exist and Loki would have succeeded in his invasion, and even if he hadn't, there would have been no force that could adequately taken down HYDRA once SHIELD fell.

Tony has his baggage that makes him an occasional liability, but he's an irreplaceable benefactor, indispensable asset and one of the heaviest, but also precise hitters in the team. To this day, he's the only person in the world that actually beat the Hulk into submission.
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>>84051245
And who do you think will be the only one who can stand against Thanos?
And that it's one is going to put more than one planet at risk.
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>>84047720
t. Bendis
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>>84050659
Bendis?
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>>84051853

Bendis hates Wanda.
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>>84052041
Rightfully so.
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>>84052328

: (
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>>84051257
>And who do you think will be the only one who can stand against Thanos?
Vision, and even then, he'll obviously lose.
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Cute!
U
T
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>>84052384
Pouting won't save you.
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>>84054062
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>>84047552
I blame Wanda.
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>>84047552
Pretty sure he's been at this since the end of avengers 1, so no it's not her fault, it's stark.
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>>84054857

Bendis, pls leave.
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>>84048383
>Buckley
kek
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>>84054974
>>84054689
>>84052384
Yeah, cry Wanda.
Slut.
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>>84048814
She does not look very intelligent. Even for a woman. Almost retarded looking.
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>>84055830
Rude.
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>>84055847
I just calls 'em hows I sees 'em, anon.
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>>84051245
what about thor??? and the countless other superman rip offs,sentry,blue marvel,hyperion,etc? I dont think you know anything about marvel comics just the movies. And F.Y.I tony shouldnt of been able to beat hulk in AoU,it was a complete character wank.
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>>84055874
>sees
Afroamerican man detected.
Fix your shit taste in grills by killing yourself.
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>>84055919
>Afroamerican man detected.

I'm a Scot actually. I never said she wasn't cute, but she definitely has a slightly retarded look. Like you would have to explain complex ideas to her slowly a few times then give up and just pump her.
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>>84047580
Oh shit that's a slam dunk argument
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>>84055992
Yup, kys.
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>>84048383
Isn't that what Cap is doing? Some kind of redemption for Buck or pay for his sins that's not through death?
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>>84047552

I don't "blame" him for it. He created Ultron to be a peacekeeper, a defender - a new Iron Man. To be like what the Vision became.

We still don't know what went wrong. Is the Mind Gem inherently bad? Was it exposure to humanity itself?
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>>84056041
Jesus are you trying to prove my point? She looks like an imbecile here. Also, telling people who you disagree with to kill themselves is much ruder than I have been, anon. Is everything OK? You seem very angry. I'm sure your waifu doesn't care about my opinion, relax.
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>>84056110
see
>>84056041
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I think people dislike the waifufags and instead they hate on the character. The waifufags are the enemy here.
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>>84056110
Stop replying to baits and waifufags. You get rustled so easily. Then again you're a Scot.
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>>84056130
Well even if I do kill myself, your waifu will still look a bit of a spastic. Enjoy your evening anon.
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>>84055992
>I'm a Scot
Aren't you too busy being raided by anti-Brexit fags?
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>>84056159
I was just engaging in a little light conversation my anonymous friend. I don't think I was the rustled one desu.

>>84056175
We were already anti-Brexit though?
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>>84056161
My waifu is not spastic.
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>>84056193
You really were, at least slightly. That wasn't a good reply at all. Just ignore the waifufag. I don't know why but some Wandafags are really hostile. A shame since I like the character and actress, but she just gets hate or waifuposting when she gets a thread.
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>>84056230
It looks like she was trying to work out where she was but gave up because she is a spastic.
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>>84056298
The question is, do you agree she looks a bit dim? I like her too, my point was never to disparage her cuteness or character.
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>>84047552
Tony has been wanting to build Ultron since New York. Wanda didn't do shit.
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>>84056404
This.
At most, she just fast-forwarded what was going to happen anyway, but it would have been worse because Tony wouldn't have the mind-gem and Vision would have not existed.
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>>84047552
I think the better question is; Why does everyone blame Stark for Ultron when Tony and Banner were nowhere near done working on him? You could almost say that Ultron was just a being that existed the whole time.
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>>84056386
>do you agree she looks a bit dim?

I don't think she looks so. Though some might ague that she may be on account of how she hasn't handled her career very well and that she quit social media because fudged up regularly in regards to it.

Though that's totally fine to me. No one's perfect. It's kinda refreshing, actually. she's flawed, she's relatable... maybe..
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>>84056041
>kys

Kill yourself
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>>84056386
I don't agree that she looks dim, but I wouldn't say she looks someone who has a high IQ either. Then again, I don't really judge people's intelligence with how they look. I don't live in the west, I live in some country you probably consider a shithole, but I've met brilliant and surprisingly intelligent people who don't look like your typical hollywood genius character. So I try not to judge someone's intelligence, whether they're dumb or smart, with looks.

In interviews, she doesn't seem dumb or a genius though. She seems chill and just in it for the cape cruise, just like the other actors.
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>>84056429
>she just fast-forwarded what was going to happen
I was about to say something like this. Wanda just fast-forwarded something that was bound to happen with Tony.
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>>84056539
Look at that picture, she screams that she is the sort of person who just smiles and nods at anything being said. She is thick as mince.

>It's kinda refreshing, actually. she's flawed, she's relatable... maybe..

Oh, you're a retard as well. Carry on then.

>>84056605
Trusting interviews with actors is not very smart. Also, your origin has nothing to do with intelligence. Education != intelligence. I think I am seeming a bit of a cunt here so I will say again, I have nothing against her. I just think it's funny that she looks like a mongol.
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>>84050231
>Vision plays a dating sim
>tries the techniques out on Wanda
>fails miserably and tries to reload the save, not realizing you can't save in real life
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>>84050231
Pic related.
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>>84056735
>Oh, you're a retard as well.

Well that was uncalled for. We don't need to get hostel, anon.

Maybe she isn't the sharpest gal out there. But I don't think that really makes her a dullard.
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>>84056735
Even more rude.
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>>84057022
Jesus, those rabbit teeth, kind of endearing but also repulsive. You are missing my point though. I never said she WAS a retard, I said she looked like she was a bit of an idiot.

>>84057095
You're definitely baiting me now. She is supposed to look like an idiot here (and does). Submission to conversation is rejected. You are welcome to try again though.
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>>84057221
>I said she looked like she was a bit of an idiot.

Well, I respectfully disagree.
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>>84057450
You are more than entitled to your opinion anon. At least we can both agree she is cute. Let's let this silly discussion end. Best wishes to you and your spastic looking waifu anon x
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>>84051245
>beat the Hulk into submission
You mean suckerpunch him when he was calming down after seeing all the traumatized civilians?
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>>84057581
>At least we can both agree she is cute.

Indeed.

> Best wishes to you and your spastic looking waifu anon x

And you, Scotanon.
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Moar cute!
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>>84047577
The Other was behind the battle of New York...


Oooohhh...
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>>84058449
'where am I? Am I awake? I forgot which feeling was awake. Is that a turtle? Am I a turtle?'
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>>84047552
> Bendis and Chthon fapping hard to this picture.
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>>84047580
Because it's his parents?

People have these things called emotions...
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>>84047720
Ultron Prime was made of Vibranium, he was indestructible; even Mind Gem and Mjolnir and Hulk did not destroy him.

But Wanda tore his vibranium like it was paper.
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>>84058582
She's not dumb.
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>>84058732
Look at that brow, that is a Neanderthal
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>>84058697
>Ultron Prime was made of Vibranium

I disagree. I think all the vibranium went into the drill,spire thing that was holding the floating Sokovia chunk together. Had he been made of Vibranium, I don't think the combined beams of Mjolnir, Vision and Stark's repulsor would've damaged him like it did considering Cap's shield has deflected Mjolnir, repulsor beams and infinity stone beams in the past.
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>>84058798

Rude
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>>84047720
>was fucking her brother on the down low according to the actors

Source because I always thought that Elizabeth just had a crush on Aaron but if this is true then it changes everything.

She was a side bitch catching feelings.
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>>84058900

i think he's talking about Wanda and Pietro
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>>84058861
Look at Cap with his inquisitive but knowing stare, look at her with her 'certified duh' look. She is a moron. Face it.
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>>84047720
> Wanda and Tony have nothing in common, as Dan Abnet showed in Force Works.

> Scarlet Witch is not human, and her humanity is fading, and may initially be sympathetic to Thanos on account of the Eternals being total cunts (why do people forget this part of Thanos' backstory).

> She has little motive to fight for Earth as Wanda (geddit?) has no home. Cap, Vision, Clint, and Stephen are who she would fight for, not human plebs.

> Scarlet Witch will have the opportunity to kill Thanos at the end of IW Part 1 but doing so would destroy the universe.

> She'll use her connection to Viz to destroy the Infinity Gauntlet by infecting it with Chaos, killing Thanos from the inside.
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>>84047720
Source on that incestuous relationship?
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>>84058928
>on account of the Eternals being total cunts

People forget this, he was an outcast. No wonder he got a bit killy.
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>>84058928
Scarlet Witch vs Thanos? Fuck off, Dr Strange might have a chance. I can't think of any other Earth based hero managing to last 2 rounds.
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>>84058943
The two actors said they worked to make them overly close due to Ultimates, It's in the interview in webm related.
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Everyone on caps team was an arsehole or horrible personal really
>cap betrays his country and friends and sides with a man everyone else sees as a mass murderer because the way he was raised means he can't satisy his homosexual lust for bucky. Also some stupid bullshit about why its unreasonable for the most powerful people on earth to not be allowed to do whatever they want all the time
>Bucky never shows any real remorse or guilt for the murders committed by his hands, any normal human being would at least question themselves slightly
>Wanda throws a childish shitfit as previous described in detail in this thread
>Clint comes out of retirement and puts himself and his family in danger for no reason other than he doesn't like authority figures or something
>Literally no reason for Ant-Man to help them other than Pym told him not to like Starks
>Falcon is complicit in crippling Rhodes, also does whatever Steve wants without question

Also Steve drops a fucking steel gantry on Spiderman without knowing if he can hold it up for not.
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>>84058913
>She is a moron. Face it.

Rude!

>>84058943
Some AoU interview. People get this impression because Olsen said that she actually liked House of M or something.
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>>84058913
What other expression do you want her to have when looking at Vision phasing through walls?
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>>84047580
Tony wasn't mind controlled
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>>84059128
Why is the magic user perplexed by someone walking through a wall? Because she is a moron.
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>>84059198
She's not perplexed, she just has a bored look on her face.
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>>84059156
so it was indeed his fault?
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>>84059103
I can not into lip reading
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>>84059109
I haven't watched the newer spidey films but I am tempted to by his character in civil war. He really cam across as the dumb kid with only 6 months, it was quite funny.
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>>84059214
Nigga, you have been defending her for so long you have worn me down. OK, she isn't stupid. Happy? she does look like a retard though
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>>84047720
Tony go away
you're still wrong
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>>84059263
She looks like a qt.
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>>84047580
Because Strucker triggerd him first
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>>84059279
She looks like a moron. She looks like she has done nothing in life other than be sorta cute. Not even full, undeniable cute, just sorta if I squint my eyes she is lovely but otherwise, eh suppose so.
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>>84059337
Just how rude can you be.
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>>84047552
Wanda just made his fears visceral. Iron Man 3 showed that Stark still had PTSD from his experience in The Avengers, and Ultron is stated to be an idea him and Banner had been considering for a while before.
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>>84059363
I can be much ruder, I can talk about how her eyes are spaced like an x-files grey alien. About how her voice is a boring drone. About how she has no body shape and looks like a lamp post with a boring head. These are just examples, it could be much ruder.
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>>84047720
>>84048098
She is Feared Before All Others.

Steve is not afraid of her, because he believes in her, because he believes in people.

Clint is the most human and normal Avenger, yet it's he who urges Wanda to embrace her powers. His family still has him because of her brother.

Vision cares for her but is scared of her losing her humanity because of her powers, which he knows diddly about.
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>>84059430
She has great legs and GOAT tits tho.
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>>84058594
So do Bucky and Wanda.
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>>84059447
Eh, decent legs. But from there up it is like a spirit level, shit is flat yo. Bitch is a rectangle with legs and a boring head.
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>>84059495
>she's flat
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>>84059516
M8, I'm /fit/. I have bigger tits than her. Also, look at those disgusting claws she calls hands. I was nearly sick looking at that and I have nicely calloused hands. This pic changed my opinion from cute retard to disgusting spastic.
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>>84059603

the only /fit/ you are is fittin all those mcnuggets into your mouth you raging neckbeard.
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>>84059603
>i'm fit
>bigger tits
lmao
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>>84059603
>not liking her
Smh Tbqh Pham
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>>84059109
I with Stark but come on, that shit with Rhodey is not on Sam. And Bucky has shown remorse, the fact that he doesn't think he's worth anything alludes to that much at least. Clint is the one that doesn't make sense. The previous movies has set him up as the most reasonable person in the group, the one that keeps them grounded. Instead he's all fuck the gubment in CW.
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>>84059635
>>84059638
Think what you like lads. She has filthy claws and looks like a spastic. These are documented facts.
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>>84059732
What's wrong with her hands.
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Fag tries to redeem his shit waifu. Utterly fails
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>>84059749
They are curled, like claws, and look like leather. They are disgusting.
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>>84059777
>implying
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>>84059777

Now you're just being obvious.

Nice trips though.
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>>84059837
>Now you're just being obvious.

What do you mean? That is a nice pic though. I bet I could look good with 15 hours of photoshop as well.

>>84059816
Is that from Graham Norton?
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>>84053086
Vision can't directly fight Thanos for obvious reasons.

Without Wanda, the Avengers will be raped in 5 seconds as none of their powers are any use at all against Thanos.

Wanda has been shown to be able to destroy indestructible armour and control infinity stones.

Her power is Chaos, her whole character is themed around it. Vision refers to Order and Chaos in AoU, Chaos is the diametrical opposite of the Infinity Stones, which all represent Order. Strange's magic is based around Order, so he's fucked, too.
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Is it two Wandafags vs one obnoxious Scot or is it a really determined Wandafag?
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>>84059929
Some posts with her are less than a minute from each other, so it can't be one.
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>>84059877
Yes.
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>>84050260
Wanda's arc is all about controlling her emotions.

The twist in Infinity War is that she'll save the universe by letting Thanos live at the end of IW Part 1.

Remember what happened when Pietro died?
If she does that again there won't be a fucking Infinity War Part 2.
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>>84059967
Ugh, she looks rough there. Like she would be sticky. I started this argument liking her but I have been proven wrong numerous times. She is disgusting and a spastic.
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>>84060024
Just look into her eyes for 2 minutes straight.
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>>84060065
She is wearing a tangerine hat, the colour of Dundee United. I am a dee. Immediate loss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=993o4UCzLgE

MON THE DEES
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>>84060127
AN OLDER ONE IF YOU PREFER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEWFRwJLmxA

MON THE DEES
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>>84047552
>wanda will NEVER mindrape you
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>>84060265
She doesn't need to use her powers to control me.
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>>84060295
Sorry, did I get too normie by talking about fitba(soccer)? I still am enjoying our autistic argument/discussion. You have shown me how truly disgusting she is, how can you defend it?
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>>84060065
Is that Hulk Hogan?
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>>84048163
Cap loves her platonically. She's alone in the world just like him, was created as a weapon just like him, she grew up dirt poor and an orphan just like him.

He is protective of her because he is her mentor and because she is kind of a totem of his faith.

In HoM Cap, Wasp, and Strange were the only people who stood by her.
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>>84059691
Clint believes friendship comes before anything else.
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>>84059098
Strange uses Order Magic. Powerful, but...

Completely fucking useless against the Infinity Gauntlet as it controls all elements of Order.
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>>84059109
But Spidey states the same beliefs as Cap.

He basically says he he has the right to stop bad things when he feels like it.
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>>84062239
Thanos is a master of magic and technology, he is too strong for any earth hero even without the infinity gauntlet. Drax the Destroyer was created by a God to kill Thanos and Thanos laughs at him. When he done it, it was bullshit. Thanos is the true Messiah. ALL HAIL THANOS.
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>>84062433
Sorry, got carried away with my Lords might. The point was, Thanos does not even need the infinity gauntlet to destroy Strange.
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>>84047720
>blames the manufacturer of the bomb that killed her family and not the people who fired it like a moron
Gee just like Tony blaming Bucky and not the ones that brainwashed him?
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>>84062433
Thanos and Wanda do have alot in common. I suspect the Russos have latched onto the mutant pariah symmetry and nomadic nature of both as thematic hooks.
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>>84063723
Thanos x Wanda when? Though Death was a hooded hotty, even her skelly was hot.
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> People thought Vision would leave Earth at the end of CW...but he will in fact be stuck in Avengers HQ for the forseeable.

> But it is Wanda who is most likely to have left. There is nowhere she can train on Earth as she is a fugitive. She has a surrogate family within the Avengers but the fact is, her growing powers and lack of roots and disillusionment make it easy to leave.

> Strange might send her to Clea, or she may go looking for someone who can teach her when Strange's ignorance of her powers pisses her off.
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>>84064335
You should know what greentext is conveying before using it. Just use sentences you retard. That was annoying to read.
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>>84047552
Tony was considering Ultron long before Wanda showed up since Bruce brings it up as a failed project, Wanda only made Tony shortsighted and obsessive about it so he'd take risks and ignore safety measures.
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>>84064335
>There is nowhere she can train on Earth as she is a fugitive.
Wakanda?
>She has a surrogate family within the Avengers but the fact is, her growing powers and lack of roots and disillusionment make it easy to leave.
Leaving after Clint went through all that mess and can't see his family (unless he moves them to Wakanda) wouldn't be the best idea. Yes, he did it of his own accord, but still she's likely sticking by his side until things get sorted out.

She also has no reason to trust Strange since so far her powers appear to be TK and telepathy with magic not clearly involved. See we know her comic counterpart has all that stuff, but thus far she hasn't even been referred to as Scarlet Witch only credited so wizardry and the like isn't on the table yet. She's just a freak. She might be identified as a source of mystical energy in Strange but we'll see.
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>>84064860
If they fuck up Dr Strange then I am going to cry like a woman. The only things in life I want are Mount and Blade: Bannerlord to be great and Dr Strange to be true to the comics. I will die happy then.
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Of course. Cuteness is key.
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>>84055908
Or maybe the suit worked because Banner helped design a weapon specifically to take down the Hulk.


Yeah, Hulkbuster never worked before, but that's because it was normally built by Tony on his own.
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>>84064860
She might feel her team-mates are safer without being burdened by her being around.

Yes, I'm sure T'challa would allow her to train in his country after killing 12 of his countrymen. Yeah, that would go well with the Wakandans who likely regard her as a murderer.

"Humans are odd, they see Order and Chaos as opposites."

Vision = Order/Logic
Wanda = Chaos/Emotion

Wanda's power, thematically, has to be opposite to Vision's, otherwise Viz should have said "Order and Order."

Joe Russo's comments about no one understanding Wanda's powers and her having the potential to save the entire universe suggest she can do a whole lot more than throw cars around, and given she's likely the Final Boss in Thanos' quest, she is not going to be a push over.

This also fits because she is also the only Avenger who will empathize with Thanos's suffering. None of the others will.

Wanda likely figures out her own powers on her own, as Strange equates Knowledge with Power, not Emotion, because that is what AO has trained him (or perhaps you could say tricked him through lies) to think. You cannot train someone to control their emotions, anyhow. Agatha and/or Chthon, perhaps, but definitely not Strange.
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>>84056743
He could if he had the Time Gem
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>>84065009
Doctor Strange is Feige's favorite character. It will either turn out great or be his first failure.
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>>84066952
What makes a man turn waifu? Lust for acceptance? Individuality? Or were you just born with a heart full of fear?
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Ya'll niggas never saw the Oldboy remake. Not that I blame you, but she goes fully nude in that movie and gets her pussy wrecked by Josh Brolin.
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>>84059109
>>Bucky never shows any real remorse or guilt for the murders committed by his hands, any normal human being would at least question themselves slightly

in what world is bucky normal? coming in and out of cryo comas for missions while being brainwashed? his life is fucked, which is why he wanted to stay gone, and then willing let himself be put under.
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>>84068646
I don't watch rap
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>>84069309
Plus, when you're MK Ultra'd normal human emotional reactions are literally conditioned out of you or stop functioning as a psychological defense mechanism once your mind starts to shut down at the realization of a hopeless situation.

>>84059109
Being held captive by people with no sympathy or empathy for you, who only intend to torture, brainwash and experiment on you inside or send you out to kill or destroy things outside when they defrost you and knowing (or at least believing) absolutely no one knows where you are and absolutely no one is coming to save you (and anyone who does find out about you is likely to detest your existence due to a skewed awareness of your recent activities and no context or care for your past life) is the very definition of a hopeless situation. Your only option is to literally die inside and just hope you die one day when you're outside. There is no other escape short of a miracle, that miracle came in the form of Steve Fucking Rogers unflinching determination to save his friend in a world that considers him public enemy no.1.
Stack on top this that he's still worried he can be activated at any time by Hydra agents hiding around him and of course he's going to still seem reluctant to hope too wholly and eager to keep himself at a distance from others.

Bucky does show visible improvement once he realizes he's safe trusting Steve. He laughs twice fondly recalling memories and despite Sam's cold treatment he even has some banter with him. He's on the road to recovery but it's going to be a long one.

In short, fuck you anon. Fuck every last bitch-particle of you.
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>>84068646
Hopefully the Russos will show what utter cunts the Eternals were so Thanos isn't yet another one dimensional Marvel villain.

But yeah, Wanda will have a more nuanced view of Thanos than the other Avengers who will just see him as Nasty Spaceman.

The paralel with Oldboy is that Wanda and Thanos will talk
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>>84069841
Steve please, Bucky will never love you back
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>>84061159
>acknowledging HoM's existence
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>>84047552
Manlet stan pls go
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>>84048383
No they were trying to stop Zemo and the Sleeper agents until Tony went full retard all the way.
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>>84072194
>Tony please, Steve will never love you back
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>>84055830
Hey, you post like a retard, but we don't judge you.
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>>84047580
Your whole life you think your parents died in an accident. It's revealed to you that one of your friends best friend killed them. Your friend knew for 2 fucking years. The killer doesn't even show any fucking remorse, he just gives you some fucking autistic look instead of apologizing. I'd imagine you would stop thinking rationally and go fucking ape shit, as Tony does.

He probably could've killed both of them easily but he wanted to get up close and personal in his rage, instead of using his range and flight.
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>>84073341
>forensics in the 80s/90s couldn't tell this wasn't a car crash related death
>freaking stark couldn't see it
MHHhhhhhmmMmmhhhhhhhhHHM
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>>84073458
Well given HYDRA had infiltrated SHIELD its not hard to figure that they could easily have covered it up with well-placed agents.
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>>84072561
I felt ashamed of that but only used it as an example.

Anyway, the Russos lifted the Wanda sub-plot from the 1970's/80's Avengers comics, the stuff such as Cap destroying the Wanda hatemail and the Avengers mansion being attacked due to Wanda, then her and Vision's home being blown up.

Ironically its a more faithful adaptation of the mutant hate stuff than the X-Men movies.
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>>84057022
> We don't need to get hostel, anon.
>hostel
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>>84074703
Corsets do their job well.
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>>84067421
>Wanda = Chaos/Emotion
>Woman represents chaotic emotions
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>>84075052
Well, they were right.
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>>84075052

>woman has character traits

BTFO BTFO ROASTIES CONFIRMED INFERIOR ALL WOMAN ARE WHORES LE 4CHAN ARMY WINS AGAIN

>woman doesn't have character traits

MARY SURE MARY SURE WOMEN CONFIRMED WORST GENDER LE 4CHAN ARMY WINS AGAIN
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>>84047552
She just wants Vision to bang her.
Slut.
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Reminder that Scarlet Witch has fucked Thanos (who was her daddy)
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>>84076333
No she hasn't.
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>>84074703
> Dem pants
> Dat cleavage
> Dat belly

But I hope that evolves into something more majestic in Infinity War.
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>>84076308
She just wants cuddles
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>>84074703
>dat cleave
timetofap.jpg
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>>84047552
>The directors of CW believe that Bucky should pay for his crimes despite being brainwashed and literally all his actions as the WS was without his consent.
>Meanwhile, they think Wanda is innocent, and it's a different situation for her than Bucky despite not being brainwashed or mind controlled like him, but she still ended up commiting evil acts.
You tell me.
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>tonyfags trying to push the blame for ultron onto someone else
>all she did was scare him a little
>because he was scared he built the genocidal AI and just left it alone till it was a problem
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>>84076807
no
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>>84076740
>But I hope that evolves into something more majestic in Infinity War.

It might. Or it'll go closer to what she had a the end of AoU. Russos wanted her getup in CW to be more simple, since they felt she wasn't quite hero status yet. Like she hadn't earned her wings yet, I guess.
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>>84077258
I don't get this part, Vision clearly intended to hit Falcon and Roads only got hit because Falcon dodged. How was any of this Vision's fault?
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where is Team Caps hideout going to be? wakanda?
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>>84077488
Wakanda.
They'll all spend the next 2 years eating burgers, watching TV, and defreezing Buckey every once in a while to watch football.
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>>84077415
>How was any of this Vision's fault?
It wasn't Vision's, it was Stark's. Stark told Vision to take the shot. You make a call like that, aiming at one bogey while two of your own guys are nearby, that's all on you. It is completely on Tony's hands, like basically everything awful in this movie.

Cap's team makes mistakes, sure, but Tony actively makes terrible decisions and remains "in charge" even when he says they need to be reined in.
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>>84077488

Obviously. They can't exactly go anywhere and be welcomed on account of being international fugitives.
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>>84077608
>Stark told Vision to take the shot.

I'm pretty sure Rhodey told him to take the shot. But none the less, your point still stands.
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>>84077579
Sounds fun.
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>>84077651
But it was Rhodey who took the shot.
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>>84077579
> T'challa will be in a whole lot of shit if his people and his political enemies such as Achebe find out Team NEET is in Wakanda, especially Wanda who killed a bunch of Wakandans.

> I think they are in Wakanda temporarily, but will have to leave in a matter of weeks/months, especially given no one wants them crowding into the Black Panther film and shifting focus away from BP. Bucky (and possibly Cap) is the only TC member I can see being in BP.

> Fury will likely provide them with a safe house.
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>>84078244
>But it was Rhodey who took the shot.

.. No, Vision took the shot because Rhodey told him to so that Wilson could not hinder them further in their pursuit of the Quinjet. Rhodey didn't shoot himself.
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>>84069841
Oh fuck *right* off. Bucky has been MADE TO BE evil, hateful, and dangerous.

Bucky a shit. Regardless of what was *done* to him, he is an incurable fucking inhuman monster who exists only to harm. It's a goddamn tragedy, just like Ol' Yeller, but the rabid dog must be put down.
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>>84077143
You're really underplaying her role in all this, (likely because she's your waifu, but I'll withhold that for the sake of discussion.)

Wanda reached directly into Tony's kind and manipulated his deepest, darkest fears (losing the people he holds dear,) and allowed him to take the staff specifically because she knew his desperation would hurt the Avengers.

Tony made an oopsie. Wanda acted directly out of spite without a care as to who got hurt.
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Take these to /tv/. Co should just be ACTUAL COMICS and cartoons.
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>>84076249
This, ladies and gentlemen, is what we refer to as Saltius Niggerius.
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>>84047552
1. Ultron was being developed by Tony prior to meeting the twins.
2. Tony decided to use the captured gem to supplement it.
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>>84047580
I don't think that he "didn't understand"
Like in the film he said, "I don't care."
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>>84078878
/co/ is going to talk about whatever /co/ wants to talk about. And there's honestly nothing you can do about it except cry some more.
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>>84078599
Yeah, but Rhodey took the shot. ;-)
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>>84079736
Low blow, anon.
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>>84076333
>still haven't seen any Brolin since Guardians
I find him really enjoyable on screen, I feel like Thanos was really built up by Avengers and they set up the infinity gauntlet stuff with GOTG and then theres been this massive gap with not so much as a post credits teaser in another film.

Is Guardians 2 meant to return to Earth? Seems like the next time we're gonna see any Thanos and it would be nice for the MCU to start moving towards its big conclusion.
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>>84080230

>Is Guardians 2 meant to return to Earth

the Simon Williams posters indicate something happens on Earth in the present. (one of the posters was a Jobs parody about Stark)
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>>84080230
>Is Guardians 2 meant to return to Earth?

They'll probably decide to head to Earth in the epilogue to set up the Infinity War since the Gardians are going to appear in both Avengers 3 and 4, supposedly.
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>YWN spend a nice quiet evening cooking dinner with her
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>>84080780
Good, i'm a horrible cook.
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>>84078838
She didn't have any idea what would happen. She had no idea about anything, really. She endured HYDRA experiments because she likely was confident she would survive, and she did so in the hope she could save her country, Tony distracted her mind from that with disastrous results.
Wanda had never had any power over anything and had no concept of having any effect on anything, and that was compounded by being self-absorbed in her own little world, and her knowledge of Tony was based on what her countryfolk thought, not on actual facts. She thought it would only affect Tony. What she learnt after some thought, was that she was wrong. Like Thor's fuck-up with the Ice Giants, it was actuon with little thought of consequence.

Anyhow, her arc is probably building to her NOT retaliating or lashing out against Thanos when he rips Vision's stone out. The ultimate test of her will to resist her emotions, even as Thanos stupidly goads her. She has to let him win, because if she reacts as she did when Pietro died, she'll fuck the entire universe by destroying the stones, so the only good option is to let Thanos win and wipe out half of all life.
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>>84080780
>you'll never make her laugh
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>>84047552

Yeah it's why nobody cares that she unleashed an enraged Hulk in a heavily populated city
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>>84082575
He should stop being such a big guy then.
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>>84082543
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>>84082757
At least I won't make her cry.
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Sleepybye.
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>>84083111
Goodnight anon.
Make the thread again if it dies.
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>>84080780
shame
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>>84059219
What, Ultron? Of course.
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>>84082642
For her.

Or for you if you like that kind of thing.
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>>84080273
I think Simon is just an Easter Egg.
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>>84080230
Thanos coming to Earth makes no sense unless there is some connection between Humans and Eternals.

We might see Kronos, perhaps.
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>>84085545
>>>/tv/
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>>84080329
burn
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>>84077056
Well, see, the thing is... Bucky murdered people.
Wanda didn't.
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>>84085647
>Thanos coming to Earth makes no sense
>fucking Mind Gem walkin around
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>>84089729
Bucky was brainwashed. He was directed towards killing people against his will. He needs treatment because his condition is not his fault.
Wanda's actions and failure to secure the explosion DID lead to casualties. Wanda SHOULD be better trained against these kinds of accidents though. Both have blood on their hands, Wanda's through accident and Bucky's against his will.
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>>84089814
No one is qualified to train her.

Wanda should not be dealing with street level shit, anyhow. Way too small for her.

The obvious endgame of her fighting Thanos is her letting him win after he kills Vision for the good of the universe and as a temporary tactical retreat.

Obviously fighting Thanos on Earth would be irresponsible and genocidal, it is not an option due to the huge loss of life that would be incurred
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>>84089773
The Avengers can't fight Thanos on Earth due to the huge casualties it would cause and the Accords/Ross attacking them while they battle Thanos.
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>>84090846
I'll train her alright...
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>>84090891
>it would cause and the Accords/Ross attacking them while they battle Thanos.

..Would Ross actually be that pigheaded?

Actually, on second thought, he might be. In fact, I'd see him as such that he'd go full hypocrite, assemble his Thunderbolts team, and even go red-hulk 'cause he thinks the Avengers can't do shit anymore. He'd probably view it as another battle of New York and not asses the sensitivity of the situation.
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>I can't chaos to this!
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