In spite of its flaws, Steven Universe is a show that deserves credit for its underlying message. In a world growing angrier, bitterer, and preoccupied with cynicism and entitlement, this show not only addresses human imperfections but embraces them.
Not every episode of this show is a standout, as captivating or engaging as some are. But messages of love, perseverance, forgiveness et cetera are always nice to see.
Feelings are gay faggot.
Get your fucking feelings out of here.
>>83912544
But it's sending out mixed message since the gems aren't human.
>>83912673
What does that have to do with anything?
>>83912691
Feelings are gay
Who needs love when you have a gun?
>>83912544
We need more angry cartoons. Love and tolerance won't fix anything when your neighbor wants to cave in your head with a rock.
we need cartoons that dont draw teeth overly huge and curved in an unnatural direction
>>83912673
>>83912691
Steven, through his actions and character, helps the gems become more human.
>>83912544
>But messages of love, perseverance, forgiveness et cetera are always nice to see.
But what about TRADITIONAL VALUES, anon?
Why can't we have good old traditional values anymore? Like love, perseverance, forgiveness et cetera? Fucking agendas man.
>>83912753
It will convince his son not to cave your son's head in with a rock. And his son not to cave your grandson's head in with a rock. Cartoons teach children. For everyone else, there's concealed carry.
>>83912816
Most people don't have TV.
>>83912753
My neighbor doesn't want to do that, though?
>>83912878
So...Why does it matter what cartoons say then?
>>83912544
Agreed, OP. Once in the blue moon let's try to find the value in things, yeah?
>>83913178
I like the way you think
>>83912878
I watch SU on streaming sites.
>>83912544
Nothing new, lifted right out of the anime it's so inspired by.
Goku, Luffy, Naruto, all happy-go-lucky dumbos living in a dark and cruel world. As the series go on, they spread their positivity to the world and enemies around them.
>>83913245
new to this country
>>83912544
Cartoons should just be entertaining, I don't care about the message if it's delivered poorly every time.
>>83912544
>not only addresses human imperfections but embraces them
Why?
What the hell is the point of embracing a flaw instead of fixing it?
>>83912878
Yeah, in Nigeria maybe
>>83912816
>Cartoons teach children.
If a children is dumb enough to actually learn ethics from a cartoon, he'll be too dumb to learn anything at all.
I honestly don't know how people believe children watch cartoons or play video games for anything more than raw entertainment.
>>83913263
But all those anime are dubbed and shown on our tvs.
>>83913295
Imperfections aren't necessarily flaws.
>>83913349
children are impressionable
>>83912729
who needs love if you have a love gun?
>>83913427
And thus they'll turn to the next big thing that strikes them and forget the previous one. Unless we're talking a car crash with dozens of casualties happening right in front of them, kids' fickle minds will remain so.
>>83913349
>I also believe in Lamarcian evolution and the Aether theory of physics
gb2/pol/
>>83912811
Anon, you are drunk.
>>83913502
Did YOU learn any ethics from watching cartoons? Did cartoons teach you how to act around people in real life?
>>83913349
Children in their formative years are impressionable by design. It's how we as a species learn to adapt as our greatest strength.
Besides, there's a reason why retards are often described to have the minds of children. Get it together, anon.
>>83913349
>if a children
>>83913599
Cartoons taught me to be myself
>>83913599
Did you not? When you're five, you don't have a nuanced ethical and sociological framework for you to act on. You have what you've seen. And what you've seen up to that point has been your parents, who are weird big and kind of alien, and cartoons which are specifically designed to be relatable to.
Personally, I didn't watch many cartoons growing up, but I do remember comparing myself and my circumstances to the books I had read when I wasn't quite comfortable with the kids around me those first couple of years, and trying to figure out how I should interact with them.
Its hard to say this show is positive after the fans drove someone to almost kill themself. (Pic related,kinda)
>>83913631
>there's a reason why retards are often described to have the minds of children.
And autists are described as being obsessed. That's what separates the healthy kids from the kid that kept making Sonic OCs late into his adolescence. Because they learn to adapt to various things, not just one.
Otherwise, that popular theory from the 90s about video games turning children violent would've been proven true.
>>83913807
>Did you not?
If I did, it never did stick. I guess, I quickly realized how school wasn't like those on TV. Or that I would never go to the Digiworld.
Cartoons for my schoolmates and I were a topic of conversation more than anything.Even back then, we all knew TaiSora was the obvious ship.
>>83913599
I used to watch Sesame Street when I was a kid, it taught me a lot actually.
I know it's technically not a cartoon, but it's the quintessential "show that teaches kids something". The producers used techniques proven to make kids learn subconciously while having fun. The show's mere existence is the proof that children can learn something from cartoons and other shows aimed at them.
>>83913865
Being a 'fan' is a mental disorder.
>>83913807
>who are weird big and kind of alien
Not him but I never thought like this as a child, I thought my parents were right 100% of the time until I started to get older, I watched cartoons to laugh and knew not to take them or their lessons seriously.
>>83913865
>inb4 don't judge a show for its fandom
One way or another, if a "progressive" cartoon supposedly about love, tolerance and diversity attracts such viciously twisted individuals, then I guess it doesn't it's "message" is in the end nothing more than hot air.
>>83912673
>Thinking you need humans for messages about human emotions.
We are currently living in times reminiscent of pre war times. Ie, economy going down the shitter, prejudices getting stronger, and a stronger disillusionment in government, as well as escalating tensions in the world at large.
It's a net negative to teach the generation growing up in this world to be held back by emotions. They're going to end up being as fucked up as the bits during the world wars, where a very childish culture got a culture shock of what war is like.
If anything, we should be teaching the strength of discipline and tactical cleverness and the unity of a disenfranchised underclass via camraderie in hardship, and strong morals that rewards the good and punishes the bad to prepare for the inevitable clash of cultures.
The world is turning rotten and the places that need to be the strongest aren't preparing for ot, but rather, sheltering themselves in tolerance and apathy that's divorced from politics and melts into everyday life.
So basically I think Steven universe gives a message that, while kind and true, is probably not the kind of message we should be teaching children collectively in this current time.
Wimps don't win, kids. And winners get to live.
>>83913865
Whoever drew this should be careful, they drew Rose with a non-absolutely-massive amount of fat. If tumblr sees it they'll launch a years-long harassment campaign again them to get the author to commit suicide.
>>83912544
Consider the following, this is a dyke show
>>83913906
Maybe the ethical quandaries of Animorphs had a little more staying power than Digimon, because I still sometimes free-associate my way back to some of their circumstances.Matt and Sora canonically get married, so suck it infidel!
>>83914130
You're talking nonsense, anon.
We have drones to go to war for us now.
>>83914125
Superman looks like a human and was raised on Earth, for all intents and purposes he is human.
>>83914217
Yeah, considering trained armies couldn't get past the vietcong, a bunch of farmers hiding in trees and laying out traps, I doubt a bunch of disposable toy helicopters will fare any better.
Also the deal is that America has a bunch of treaties where they essentially have to send soldiers into countries to defend them, that's kind of what being an ally is, so people drafted will probably die defending another country outright.
Tbqh senpai I'd be scared as shit of the draft considering how many technological innovations we've made since the last world war, let alone the last war. Seriously, there's shit being used in foreign armies that make the chemical warfare and tanks of world War 1 look like baby toys.
The fact is that the boon from ww2 is running out and we're gonna need another one to fuel the economy for the next couple of years.
Preaching love and tolerance is going to fuck up the teenagers who have to rip someone apart with bullets in a few years.
>>83914131
Tumblr already gave him shit for Stevonnie fanart IIRC, it's okay, though, he's a /co/mrade so he won't be killing himself for something like that.
>>83912729
>Shit Americans Say
>>83914222
The Gems also look human, more or less.
>>83913865
>>83914017
Actually the fans were being led on by people who were already bullying the artist (and seemed to have a personal beef: They even said at one point something like "we'll stop if you break up with your boyfriend") and it wasn't just the artists steven universe fanart that was being used, but also fanart from the other prominent tumblr fandoms (the 2nd most prominent being their homestuck fanart)
>>83914435
>Yeah, considering trained armies couldn't get past the vietcong, a bunch of farmers hiding in trees and laying out traps, I doubt a bunch of disposable toy helicopters will fare any better.
What? If anything you just showed why the helicopters WOULD fare better. Toy helicopters don't care about traps in trees.
>>83914130
>>83914435
One, the advent of mass nuclear proliferation has pretty much made as World War style mass casualty conflict impossible. If things ever got bad enough that major powers are going to any length to wipe each other out, there won't be any Normandy's or Gallipoli's, just a short nuclear exchange that no one's going to survive.
Two, political circumstances and technological breakthroughs have gone well past the point that a draft is pretty much never coming back in any first world nation, since as time goes on armies need more in the ways of technical experts to operate advanced machinery and less expendable cannon fodder.
I'm not saying your outlooks are necessarily wrong, but your specific fears of some kind of World War II scale mass combat slaughterhouse are completely delusional. If World War III ever breaks out between major powers, it'll last a day at most and no one will actually live through it.
SU is a great show, and all of the major issues I have with it are totally subjective. (One of those would probably be how it's mostly influenced by anime and other media as opposed to mostly coming from a real-world cultural inspiration. The unspoken "nerds creating for nerds" sentiment in entertainment today really shouldn't be as big a thing as it is.)
>>83914990
"Fan drama" is fucking cancer.
>>83913349
Media shapes children. Not to the extent that their education and family do, but it can help shape a way they look at certain situations.
>>83912729
WHO NEEDS LOVE TO HAVE ANY FUN
>>83913599
When I was a kid I watched Arthur every morning before school. Learned a shit ton about life from that show.
>>83917190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGc298szZHc
same
>>83914130
Sorry to say, but there will never be another real war. Our only options in this era are drone strikes, "regime changes", and nuclear apocalypse.
>>83917297
And the eventual subsumption of all other nation states into the expanded hegemony of the United States
>>83913178
agreed, so long as they are not white straight men
>>83915576
There's at least SOME real world cultural inspiration: In an EARLY interview rebecca mentioned Mesopotamian mythology as being an inspiration
>>83913245
All of those are utterly abysmal series.
>>83915576
>The unspoken "nerds creating for nerds" sentiment in entertainment today really shouldn't be as big a thing as it is.
I think it's getting good, actually. We're moving past the "self-aware contemptuous smugness instead of good storytelling" phase and reached a "self-aware appreciation used to enhance the story" phase.
>>83913599
Not sure if it's a matter of ethics, but one very specific example of a life lesson I really took from a cartoon was from the Simpson's episode Moaning Lisa. It basically left me with the lesson that it is okay for people to be sad sometimes and not always best to just pretend to be happy when you're not. This is something that I think many aspects of my real life like the opinions of my family actually contradict.
>>83912544
Steven Universe is Sugar's bad Revolutionary Girl Utena fanfiction. She fails to understand what makes Utena's characters so likable and human, and thinks all she needs is have the characters randomly breakdown and start crying and say that's characters development.
>>83918195
I don't remember Utena inheriting her mother's role on an alien gem team and filling in her shoes.
>>83913295
Ironically in both music and gems, the entirety of the value is in the imperfections.
Perfectly played music is artificial and unappealing and perfect gems are artificial and worthless.
>>83918195
But in the manga, Utena was autistic as fuck
>>83912544
>In a world growing angrier, bitterer, and preoccupied with cynicism and entitlement
No. The 90s were the cynic ages. Nowadays we're in the comfy era. The Diversity era. The "everybody love and tolerate one another all the time or be made into a pariah" era.
>>83918195
There's way more than Utena: There's also some Dragon Ball (thanks to Ian), Simpsons, FLCL (mostly thanks to Jeff Liu), and other stuff, both anime and western
>>83918248
That's SU being Sailor Moon.
Revolutionary Girl Utena itself is a Sailors Uranus/Neptune story that was forced to be its own show.
>>83917790
>mesopotamian mythology
Steven confirmed for having a second gem hidden on/in his body
>>83913349
Dude I am a functional normie and I learn from cartoons. Steven is a cool kid who is always optimistic in the face of pretty grave danger. He believes in hope and love and that's something important to keep in mind as i get older and lose my empathy.
>>83918303
There's nostalgia for the 90s so cynicism and angst are making a comeback.
>>83918195
Peridot had an entire redemption arc that didn't involve any crying.
>>83918046
>It basically left me with the lesson that it is okay for people to be sad sometimes and not always best to just pretend to be happy when you're not.
That lesson is even more controversial today, where any sign of unhappiness is an evil demonic attack on freedom and liberty.
>>83918375
It's not the same kind though.
The 90s was "Everything sucks and promises nothing. Meh. Whatever, dude."
The 10s is "Everything is offensive and problematic, you shitlord! Triggered! Censor everything!!!"
>>83912544
I don't know about any of that, but I sure am eager to see the episode where Steven gets "the talk" from Greg after walking in on Lapis and Peridot doing sexual stuff to each other.
Like... weird, gross, sexual stuff.
Butt stuff.
>>83918522
Not everyone uses tumblr anon.
>>83918420
That's why I also kinda like the short The Ballad of Nessie, which is a more recent teaching of basically the same lesson, just not told nearly as well.
>>83918570
No. They use also twitter, jezebel, salon, kotaku, cracked, washingtonpost, etc.
>>83918400
Peridot has cried a couple times.
>>83918307
>simpsons
>FLCL
wat
>>83918570
But everyone uses their brain, so of course he'd be upset all the time. The idea that other people actually matter isn't new by any means, but people are becoming more and more aware of it, which means the anti-caring factions are getting louder and angrier.
>>83918536
He already watched Happy Birthday Onion, so I'm guessing after that he might have already had the talk with Greg about where non half space rock babies come from.
>>83918685
Unless Onion came out of Vidalia's anus, I'm pretty sure they didn't have all the talks they could have.
>>83918636
The Simpsons has been cited by Sugar to be a major influence on the show and a few other crew members (Like Steven Sugar and Ian) are also fans: She also that "Don't Cry for Me, I'm already dead" comic https://dawolfey.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/dont-cry-for-me-im-already-dead-by-rebecca-sugar/
I think the biggest elements in the show influenced by the simpsons is the presence of the supporting townspeople of beach city and also how Greg is basically what happens if you take Classic Homer Simpson and run in an opposite direction compared to where character like Peter Griffin took it
>>83918669
the sudden hyper-connectedness is making all sides of the world interact with each other and it of course results in lots of friction, basically
>>83918982
Don't you ever compare garbage like SU to the Simpsons.
>>83918982
greg and homer even look similar
>>83919047
Not really.
Homer Simpson is a caricature of the working man.
Greg Universe is the tumblrina version of what a man is.
>>83912811
seconded
>>83913360
It is if it's being gay.
>>83919008
This, mainly. Humans are tribal creatures per excellence.
>>83918982
I doubt someone like Rebecca and Ian would watch the Simpsons.
It'd hurt their delicate Tumblr sensibilities.
>>83918982
what about FLCL?
>>83919155
Rebecca Sugar traces over some episodes and sent them to Korea.
>>83919155
The Green Hand Ship, elements of the Baseball Match, Elements of Storyboard Artist Jeff Liu (who drew pic related)'s style
>>83919310
Why do they rip off other people's shows.
>>83918536
>"Dad, what do you with the Gems in the barn every weekend?"
>"Well yah see son, when a man and a rock like each other very much."
>>83919324
>Not knowing the difference between ripping off and inspiration
>>83919179
.>>83919310
Jesus fuck what a bitch
>>83919386
you know that
>Rebecca Sugar traces over some episodes and sent them to Korea.
is someone joking, right?
>>83919386
>>83919422
She really does do that.
>>83919422
Jesus fuck what a faggot.
>>83919386
>>83919422
plus the main person on the show inspired by FLCL is storyboard artist Jeff Liu, not rebecca herself
>>83919081
that has nothing to do with looks
they both have the short round beard
the bald head with hair in the back, one long one short
blue jeans (shorts/long) and a white top (tank/shirt)
the gut, the big round eyes
>>83919378
Except that Sugar literally takes a character from another show and reskins it.
>Peridot=Zim
>Steven=Luffy
>Greg=Homer
>>83919470
Even then, Greg looks more like a Peter Griffin and Carl's love child than anything remotely like Homer.
>>83919480
>Steven=Luffy
no it's
>Steven=Steven Sugar
>>83919514
Literally who?
>>83919461
So basically he just watches FLCL and redraws it with SU characters.
>>83919529
Rebecca's brother and the lead background designer on the show
>>83919386
And if you say anything about it, her band of white knights will crusade against you.
>>83919563
I know you're trolling at this point but anyways, storyboarders follow scene by scene outlines written before the boarding begins
http://ben-levin.tumblr.com/post/128851455980/hi-ben-i-know-steven-universe-doesnt-use
>>83919574
...Literally who?
Aren't all of Sugar's characters based on existing characters? Like Watchmen.
>>83919514
This was debunked by Steven Sugar himself.
>>83919603
So basically, it boils down to
>Watch anime
>Do that but worse
Hey, I can be a storyboarder too!
>>83919611
>>83919641
>>83919662
I think it's obvious to anyone else watching at this point that you're trolling so I'm not even gonna respond anymore
>>83919678
You sound just like Rebecca Sugar right now.
>>83919662
You will never be a storyboarder of anything anon.
>>83919825
If SU is anything to go by, storyboarding is easier than you think.
>>83919848
Have you even seen a SU storyboard or are you just memeing?
>>83919971
Yup.
Apparently all you have to do is draw Touhou fanart and you're in like Flynn.
>>83914699
Damn I thought this was a picture of Mac Tonight from the thumbnail.
>>83919848
>>83919971
>>83919990
all you have to do is be friends with the show creator on twitter
So, uh...
Um...
Uh... wow.
Kat morris
>>83917297
Until someone finally builds a hard counter to the Nuke that is.
Don't act like it's not possible, because people didn't think stuff like nukes could exist a 100 years ago.
We're simply one innovation away from it. Those will be interesting times to say the least.
WHEN THE FUCK ARE THEY GONNA CONTINUE SEASON THREE REEEEE
>>83912544
The world is more cynical yet we haven't had a cynical cartoon in ages.
WHY AREN'T CARTOONS FUNNY ANYMORE
WHY AREN'T CARTOONS DARK ANYMORE
WHY CAN'T CARTOONS BE CARTOONS WITHOUT THE SHILLING OF PROGRESSIVE IDEOLOGY
>>83922141
Probably soon or at least a new announcent soon with these new leaks:
>>83917901
>>83917920
>>83918074
The vague schedule we had before is also removed suddenly. And with the 21st being tomorrow, the summer of Steven sounds like it should really be around any time now
Have hope anon!
>>83912544
Too bad the show inspires those bad emotions in me and then the fanbase just makes things worse
>>83914732
Amnethyst is literally born on earth
>>83918669
It's not just "anti-caring factions". I'm annoyed by forced political correctness and I'm basically Mother Teresa.
>>83917718
The US doesn't take over other states permanently.
>>83914699
> t. hillbot
>>83917297
> Sorry to say, but there will never be another real war.
Do you have any idea of how ignorant that sentence was?
>>83914217
> Drones is enough for war
Now go ahead post that on /K/, baby boy. They'll teach your ignorant ass about modern and future warfighting.
>>83913295
Ironically the SJW types SU appeals to do neither. They just stick their flaws on themselves like a label, but rather than embrace it, they're haunted by it.
SJW feminazi pro gay propaganda
>>83912544
If the mark of quality in a cartoon show is simply in its value of it's moral and it's ability to stick a message they would be universally agreed that Steve's universe is the best cartoon in years. Stuff like writing well written characters, interesting story lines or a even the quality of the actual animation and art in and of it's self would be a total nonissue to people.
Yeah here we are.
>>83920275
No doubt. Rebecca Sugar is a cunt that way.
>>83912544
Only a fool embraces his imperfections, as this makes him complacent and accepting of his lot in life instead of fighting to better it. A true human strives to go beyond his limits and inadequacies or adapt to them, so he succeeds regardless.
If you want a show that gives a truly positive message, go watch One Punch Man, where even the weakest hero on the show decides to fight on for the sake of being better than he actually is.
Fuck embracing imperfections, defy and grow above them, that is what makes humans the greatest animal that has ever lived.
>>83922235
The cartoon you're looking for is Gumball.
>>83925355
I wish Rebecca Sugar was never born.
>>83912544
>In a world growing angrier, bitterer, and preoccupied with cynicism and entitlement, this show not only addresses human imperfections but embraces them.
Too bad the fanbase doesn't grasp that and will instead bully people into suicide.
>>83925467
That's a fanbase for you. They pick and choose what they want to hear.
>>83918420
It's not an evil demonic attack on freedom and liberty, but it is considered disrespectful to people who have it worse than you, ignoring the fact that just because someone else has it worse does not fix any issues you may have.
Victim culture is shit.
>>83925467
The WOY fandom?
>>83918570
>extreme left, easily triggered rethoric bullshit only exists on tumblr
>>83925467
In what possible way is the handful of shitheads who harassed Zamii representative of the SU fanbase? As people have already mentioned here, it appears their issue with her was something personal and had nothing to do with the show at all.
>>83925581
Hasn't stuff like this been going on since the 70s?
>>83912753
Couldn't agree more. The less mercy, the better.
>>83925424
Reminder that Quatrich was a glorified security guard who started a war against a massively numerically superior enemy led by a former underling who was aware of Quatrich's force composition and capacity while limited to a single defended position that required extensive resources to prevent local flora from overwhelming it, had limited capacity to replenish his armament or maintain his technological superiority, limited ability to provide food and medicine, was full of noncombatants, whose continued operation was dependent on the mining operations continuing unhampered, and whose resupply occurred in six month intervals - and whose first dedicated military resupply wouldn't occur for years.
>>83912753
>tfw Dipper told Pacifica her true origins, even when Mabel wanted to show trite, cliche moral superiority by not getting revenge
>>83919155
Not just FLCL, but many anime in general. I get a Ranma 1/2 vibe from the show once and awhile, not to mention that one really old anime everyone compares SU to.
>>83912816
Oh good, so me dying saying "I forgive you" while a halo grows around my head will negate the psychological and emotional abuse the rock-wielding killer he condemns his kid too. Good to know. I only have to die for that to happen. What joy.
>>83925603
If anything, I'm surprised that they're not bringing up goddess-mettaton, who actually did die.
>>83925653
>oh look the bad guy loses in a story that is written by the creator who dislikes the bad guy
What a shock.
>>83925674
Yes, in a hypothetical where "kill or be killed" is the only available option, obviously hatred and violence applied early and often is going to be the best strategy.
The entire fucking point of "love and tolerance" is to avoid ending up in that kind of dystopian hellhole in the first place. Use the rocks to build a nice garden, so neither you nor your neighbors need to fear each other.
>>83925661
I don't know, Dipper seemed way more concerned about how Pacifica treated Mabel than Mabel did. Mabel mostly seemed like she got over how she felt about Pacifica's bullshit after a little while and didn't let it bother her.
>>83913865
The people who drove Zamii to attempt suicide have always had beef with Zamii, even before SU started.
>>83925797
Yet, there was an episode where a guy bullied a kid over his drawing. Obviously, they got the idea from somewhere.
>>83925781
The point is still to not let assholes get away with being assholes, because then they'll think they are immune to consequences.
>>83925724
About the only situation he could have emerged victorious was if it was one of those terrible HFY stories /tg/ shits out. A competent commander would have realized that active conflict would result in death by attrition. A smart commander would have pulled Jake from Avatar duty after a few weeks.
>>83925817
Didn't she go back to being an asshole right after that episode.
>>83913349
>If a children is dumb enough to actually learn ethics from a cartoon, he'll be too dumb to learn anything at all.
Children are fucking sponges for knowledge, man. They're learning by observation pretty much from the moment they're out of the womb and by exploration and questioning within two years. The messages the media they consume are things they take to heart and influence them for years, possibly for the rest of their lives. That's not "stupidity", that's how we're designed - to rapidly acquire the information we need in order to survive and function. There's no such thing as "raw entertainment", especially not for a child. If you can't understand that, maybe you're the one who's too dumb to learn anything.
>>83925916
Yes, but it's the principle that counts.
>>83925797
Because these assholes knew that she wouldn't fight back, and tumblr is a website that acts like a hugbox for insecure teenagers, it makes them easy targets for nasty attention seekers to step on them and still come off looking like the good guys.
>>83924186
t. bernbot
>>83925943
And you didn't see through the PSA message stuff when you were a kid at all.
Seriously, did anyone actually take on the preachy messages in cartoons as a kid?
>In spite of its flaws, Steven Universe is a show that deserves credit for its underlying message. In a world growing angrier, bitterer, and preoccupied with cynicism and entitlement, this show not only addresses human imperfections but embraces them.
Yeah you could say the same thing about the horsie show, it doesn't change the fact that the majority of Steven Universe "fans" are sexual degenerates more concerned about who gets to throat-fuck pearl than the "story"
Oh wait hold on a bit
DUDE DEEPEST LORE LMAO! DEEPEST LORE! DUDE ROSE DIED OMG THIS CARTOON IS SO DARK AND DEEP!
HEY U CAN READ PEARL TRICKING GARNET INTO FUSING AS RAPE CAUSE FUSING IS LIKE SEX!
GODDAMN IT SUGAR YOU'RE SUCH A GREAT WRITER UR SO AWESOME I LOVE U I LOVE U SO MUCH I'M GONNA CUT OFF MY COCK AND BECOME A TRANS-GIRL JUST LIKE STEVONNIE!
>>83912544
Mercy is for the weak.
>>83913470
Kids aren't as stupid as you think. They don't copy their ethics from cartoons and games, but they can learn from the ethics presented.
>>83914990
>fans were being led on
I guess their "love" and "progressiveness" isn't very strong if they can be so easily led astray by hateful bitter people.
>>83926974
>DUDE DEEPEST LORE LMAO! DEEPEST LORE! DUDE ROSE DIED OMG THIS CARTOON IS SO DARK AND DEEP!
>HEY U CAN READ PEARL TRICKING GARNET INTO FUSING AS RAPE CAUSE FUSING IS LIKE SEX!
>GODDAMN IT SUGAR YOU'RE SUCH A GREAT WRITER UR SO AWESOME I LOVE U I LOVE U SO MUCH I'M GONNA CUT OFF MY COCK AND BECOME A TRANS-GIRL JUST LIKE STEVONNIE!
Nice meme. Especially the Stevonnie bit.
>>83913865
>the fans
Tumblr is just cancer, they are toxic pieces of shit, sadly they also like this show. This is like saying video games are bad because feminists attack people over those.
>>83926974
>it doesn't change the fact that the majority of Steven Universe "fans" are sexual degenerates more concerned about who gets to throat-fuck pearl than the "story"
That's every show on /co/.
How do you know if someone is a Steven Universe fan?
Don't worry, they'll tell you. It's literally impossible to get away from them. So here's my advice. On the very off-chance you run into one of these Steven Universe "fans" outside/in public(again, very off-chance), pull down their pants the moment they open their fat ugly mouths and spew their like of Steven Universe.
Why pull down their pants? Being Steven Universe fans, hygiene really isn't their 'thing"
The "women" will be free-bleeders, and the "male" fans won't wipe. Either way, you'll expose their disgusting nether regions to the public.
The town mob and subsequent public execution will take care of the issue by itself. Bonus points if one of them tries to run away but trips over their own leg fat.
>>83927133
Is this a copypasta?
>>83925943
Which is why this current generation of memetics is fucking awful. We're ideologically engineering kids to fail by not preparing them for the harsh realities of human existence, and making it worse with every subsequent generation.
I wouldn't be surprised if even a tame series like fucking Macross triggered kids.
>>83915469
Not really about WW3, it's more to do with the perfect conditions for a dictatorship. Look at all the shit happening in the US, militairzed police killing people in their own homes without warrants.
>>83925451
Is that her real surname by the way? It sounds something you would make up well shooting porn I can't find any evidence to the contrary
>>83926979
She doesn't doesn't take serious skill to play yes but she still important for team balance.
>>83912816
I played Doom 1 and 2 during my childhood all the time, and they never turned me into Dylan and/or Klebold.
Are we seriously at an era where acting like Helen Lovejoy is the norm?
>>83927310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p-JnzUKeF8
>>83913295
Genetics.
>>83925753
>The entire fucking point of "love and tolerance" is to avoid ending up in that kind of dystopian hellhole in the first place.
Funny how the point ever keeps deviating from the practice thereof.
>>83927310
Her real name is Rebecca Rhea but being the special snowflake she is, she goes by Sugar.
>>83921865
A superweapon that makes soldiers unwilling to fight. It exists. It's calledhomosexuality
>>83915469
>>83917297
>>83921865
I don't even think people would need a hard counter for nukes - just something that could mitigate the radiation. I know that's not how radiation works, that it's not like you can just mop it up and put it in a container and everything's hunky-dory - but if there was something that SEEMED to work like that (even if it didn't actually work like that), it'd probably be enough justification for a group to give serious thought to using nukes. It's something I worry about from time to time.
>>83912673
Racist-ass-nigga tho
>>83918195
Also, Peridot is Sugar's fanfic version of Invader Zim. Their empire even has the same hierarchy with the tallest members being the leaders
>>83927953
It was never confirmed that the Diamonds are the tallest gems though.
>>83927953
>Their empire even has the same hierarchy with the tallest members being the leaders
Was that ever explicitly stated for SU?
>>83927953
>>83928002
Sapphire was called an aristocratic gem, this while she's rather small. So it could be possible Diamonds as leaders are the tallest, but there isn't strictly a hierarchy from smallest to tallest in Gem society
>>83927455
That pic doesn't prove your point. It says hate speech isn't appreciated, not that its banned.
>>83927509
Prepare to have a full blown panic attack when you read about nuclear utilization target selection.
>>83928220
And Pearl is a lower ranking gem than Peridot and Sapphire, so the height heirarchy doesn't exist
>>83927457
Thought so.
Mind you sugar isn't that far-fetched a surname.
I actually knew a girl once called Robin Banks.
You lost me at "bitterer" you absolute autistic faggot
>>83928453
>Believing some anon on 4chan.
>Not bothering to look it up.
In related news, Alex Hirsch's real last name is Hebrewbergmoneygrabber.
>>83928511
If you checked his Twitter, you'd find that highly likely.
>>83928222
>It says hate speech isn't appreciated, not that its banned.
Disagreeing with a Woman of Collour is considered hatespeech now.
>>83928511
Wikipedia just list sugar with no further information. So yes I'm just gonna take anon word.
You know Sky Ferreira actual name really is Sky Ferreira? Sounds like Italian sports car.
Yeah but Japan does these shows 10 in a year and with sexier shota, so it offers nothing new
>>83928568
>Disagreeing with a Woman of Collour is considered hatespeech now.
No, incitement to violence is. This isn't a hard thing to look up.
I honestly can't tell if you're trying to be funny or you're actually starting to believe the whole "SJWs are coming!" shit.
Semi-related, can someone explain what's up with the release schedule, and the "Summer of Steven"?
The In Too Deep event is almost 2 months old, and we haven't gotten a new episode for 3 weeks. Since then, no details at all on the Summer of Steven (June is almost done), and Episode 6 only aired in France, and has yet to air in North America.
What's the deal?
>>83928748
Not that Anon but I'd say that's it's more slippery slope
>>83929152
Martin Luther King Jr. could have been classified by the government as a user of hate-speech, and then arrested. Censoring free-speech is always bad.
>>83929148
New promo for Too Short to Ride, so we're getting new episodes soon I'd imagine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZqGFuC6TlM
>>83929872
>Martin Luther King Jr. could have been classified by the government as a user of hate-speech
Which group of people did he advocate violence against?
>>83929994
He doesn't need to actually advocate it. You just have to say he was agitating violence against whites with his words. It gives you more credibility than arresting someone for being an "enemy of the state" or something outright fascist.
>>83928453
>>83927310
>>83927457
>Rebecca Rea sugar
Her dad and brother has the same last name. Google shit before asking about it here.
>>83929872
They didn't need to do that extra work
>>83918195
Steven Universe is more a hodgepodge of stolen ideas and overused tropes.
>>83927953
>Leaders are tall
>They must be in charge BECAUSE they are tall
Hold on, stop the presses, every fictional alien who depicts their leader as larger than the common is ripping off Invader Zim. James Cameron's alien is a sham!
>>83922396
So Too Short To Ride is about Steven taking Peridot to Funland, she wins a stuffed alien but is too short to ride a ride. In response, she decides to build herself new limb enhancers.
She's either going to accept that she's short, or fuse with Steven. Slim possibility that Lapis fetches her old limb enhancers from the bottom of the sea.
>>83912544
>this show not only addresses human imperfections but embraces them.
That's nice, but this show lacks the creativity to offer convincing scenarios where those perceived weaknesses become strengths. What we end up with are endless barrage of convenient power ups, deux ex machina, and a hand of the creator that is all too obvious. There's no logic to any of Steven's achievements, and that makes them hollow no matter how admirable the underlying message is.
>>83931155
>fuse with Steven
Please no. The shitfit that damn near everyone will throw will be more irritating than glorious.
>>83931669
I really just want some confirmation one way or another that Steven can or can't fuse with gems. For me at least it doesn't matter who he tries it with, I just wanna know if it even works.
>>83912753
What kind of shitty neighborhood do you live in?
>>83931155
I guess so, although I find the Peridot/Steven fusion the least likely option. It seems like she's thinking about replacing her old limb enhancers in some way by adding a tablet to her arm (replacing her robot finger screen). She's probably going to use paint cans to build proper stilts
>>83932018
Orhooker heels.
>>83932768
I'm okay with that too
>>83912544
>angrier, bitterer, and preoccupied with cynicism
literally me but I'm nihilistic too
>>83933084
Fuck, I wanna draw that now.
Well, here goes nothing.
>>83933195
Noice
I'm eagerly awaiting your drawing masterpiece
>>83912544
That's objectively wrong.
The world isn't getting angrier or more violent, it's the exact opposite.
The reason it SEEMS as though things are getting worse is because things around you are getting so good, the parts that aren't as good but were otherwise still commonplace in the past seem much worse by comparison.
A campfire at night always makes the surrounding area seem darker than it is.
>>83933535
All the more reason to keep it in check. It only takes one bad day to dismantle all that if we're not careful with ourselves and others.
>>83933535
>A campfire at night always makes the surrounding area seem darker than it is.
Where the fuck did you steal that form, it's too eloquent for a fucking Steven universe thread.
>>83933579
'check' isn't really the word I'd use.
People need to be educated; the minds that made this new nice world stood on the shoulders of giants to do so, and everyone else must stand there too to appreciate what it is the human species is slowly accomplishing, and that they're a part of this world too, not just lemmings that greater people than they made a world for.
>>83926974
dont you post this in every su thread?
>>83913295
Laziness. The average american is obsessed with winning, so when he has a flaw he pretend its part of his personality.
Win-win situation.
>>83933622
It's the premise of the Dark Souls games, and the metaphor the games stand for.
In the beginning, the world was grey, but then a great fire was born and divided the grey in two. Those near the fire felt its power and grew strong from it, but those far from it became steeped in darkness by comparison.
But no fire lasts forever. No matter how much you cut down to keep it going.
Eventually the fire fades, and the world goes grey again.
>>83913295
Because you can't "fix" everything and the only other option is to live in denial.
>>83918303
umm excuse me im a boy and i like MLP so tell me anon why oh why do ,my own parents make fun of me in this"diversaty" era
>>83912544
I like feels.
>>83931617
>What we end up with are endless barrage of convenient power ups, deux ex machina, and a hand of the creator that is all too obvious.
Not saying you're incorrect in any way, just curious if you have any examples?
>>83933386
Essentially done with the pencil lines now. On to the ink lines.
>>83926974
>DUDE IF I POST COMMENTS I DON'T LIKE IN ALL CAP WITH DUDES AND LMAOS AND XDS IT WILL MAKE THEM LOOK BAD LMAO XD
See two can play at this game.
>>83918522
>>83918303
Anon I think you need a reminder that the most popular cartoon at the moment is Teen Titans Go! and that show is very cynical.
>>83932018
No fusion is a very likely option as its a quick/on the spot option they can do, episodes are only 11 minutes long.
>>83937663
Steven had the paint cans ready for Peridot with a total of, what, thirty seconds of screen time? Maybe not even that?
>>83913349
sounds like you need to watch schoolhouse rock, cracker
>>83939392
So, with the pic of Peri dressed as a hooker in mind, I was wondering who here thinks it would be a good idea to include Lapis as another of Pimp!Jasper's whores. Kinda like this, but with Homeworld Gems instead of fusions, and a different background (if any at all).
>>83913349
>If a children is dumb enough to actually learn
>>83939969
Fuck it, I'm doing all three. See you after several hours.
>>83931155
Fuse with Amethyst
>>83914435
World wars didn't cause the american economic boom. Having every other industrialized nation on the planet bombed to hell cause the american economic boom.
>>83912673
You don't have to be human to be a person.
>>83912544
yeah tbqh desu senpai, I shitpost a lot about SU being pandering shit, but it's one of my favourite cartoons. Would benefit from erasing most beach city episodes and writing more likeable humans.
For those who may be interested, we've got another minor leak, confirming a Rose's room episode in the near future.
>>83942121
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