Captain America: Civil War
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Thoughts on this?
It was a good, technically outstanding but fundamentally flawed movie.
>>83753217
Nice movie.
Hated by a lot of nerds because, along with Deadpool, is the only superhero movie that is a success.
>>83753273
Keep working on DC's death, Snyder.
>>83753396
Shut the fuck up. I'm so tired of being disrespected on this goddamn website. All I wanted to do was post my opinion. MY OPINION. But no, you little bastards think it's "hilarious" to mock those with good opinions. My opinion. while not absolute, is definitely worth the respect to formulate an ACTUAL FUCKING RESPONSE AND NOT JUST A SHORT MEME OF A REPLY. I've been on this site for 4 years: 4 YEARS and I have never felt this wronged. It boils me up that I could spend so much time thinking and putting effort into things while you shits sit around (probably jerking off to Gardevoir or whatever furbait you like) and make fun of the intellectuals of this world. I've bored you? Good for fucking you. Literally no one cares that your little brain is to underdeveloped and rotted to comprehend my idea...MY GREAT GREAT IDEA. I could sit here all day whining, but I won't. I'm NOT a whiner. I'm a realist and an intellectual. I know when to call it quits and to leave the babybrains to themselves. I'm done with this goddamn site and you goddamn immature children. I have lived my life up until this point having to deal with memesters and idiots like you. I know how you work. I know that you all think you're
"epik trolls" but you're not. You think you baited me? NAH. I've never taken any bait. This is my 100% real opinion divorced from anger. I'm calm, I'm serene. I LAUGH when people imply I'm intellectually low enough to take bait. I always choose to reply just to spite you. I won. I've always won. Losing is not in my skillset. So you're probably gonna reply "lol epik trolled" or "u mad bro" but once you've done that you've shown me I've won. I've tricked the trickster and conquered memery. I live everyday growing stronger to fight you plebs and low level trolls who are probably 11 (baby, you gotta be 18 to use 4chan). But whatever, I digress. It's just fucking annoying that I'm never taken serious on this site, goddamn.
>>83753449
>1.jpg
>>83753217
A true masterpiece of cinema
1. Captain America: Civil War
2. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
3. The Avengers
4. Guardians of the Galaxy
5. Captain America: The First Avenger
6. Ant-Man
7. Daredevil
8. Avengers: Age of Ultron
9. Iron Man 3
10. Iron Man 1
----POWER GAP----
11. Jessica Jones
12. Thor
13. Agent Carter
14. Agents of Shield
----POWER GAP----
15. Iron Man 2
16. Thor: The Dark World
17. The Incredible Hulk
>>83753217
Rhodey got what he deserved.
Good movie, despite some questionable plotholes and characters acting a bit mean for no reason or for a stupid reason. Fight scenes were cool, the final one was brutal (and cemented that Tony could beat Cap if he really wanted to).
>>83753449
>>83753523
>1.jpg
Why are you so angry, Zackie?
>>83753217
People are gonna hate it because it's popular now
>>83753473
THIS
>>83753473
>age of ultron and JJ that high
>>83753448
Snyder plz
>>83753527
DESU, apart from the ending being a big slap fest, I didn't hate the X-Men as much as other people did, quite enjoyable and a 7/10 I'd say
>>83753467
that means that he's a ban evader, right?
>>83753632
>>83753664
Sorry 1.jpg, but your opinion is not relevant.
Also, stop samefagging.
>>83753473
I actually agree with all of this.
>>83753449 (You)
>>83753523 (You)
>>83753664 (You)
>>83753632 (You)
>>83753634
Yup, report him.
Mods recognize him.
>>83753712
Because for once, the masses knew better than to endure Snyder's pretentiousness or Fox's whatever.
Plus, people care about the MCU's characters, while nobody cares about DC's, and in Fox people only care about Quicksilver because of the funny scene.
>>83753217
Personally, I thought it was better than TWS, it managed to juggle all of those characters whilst still being able to maintain Captain America as the lead character. It managed to show both sides of the conflict and present both of them from an understandable viewpoint. From a technical standpoint, the action was fantastic, with the Bucky/Cap/Black Panther chase and the airport fight sequence being major standouts. But then again, it's my opinion, I know some of you will prefer BvS, Apocalypse or Deadpool but seriously, that's fine by me. I respect your opinions.
>>83753765
>only Marvelfriends
Of course, because Marvel won.
Let's go back to when people thought BvS was going to be decent...
>>83753449
This man has a point.
>>83753785
He's a known shitposter.
Supports all capeshit that's not the MCU, hates the MCU and is obsessed with the wreckage that the DCEU is right now.
Funny enough, he's a waifufag of that actress that plays Scarlet Witch.
>>83753804
Nigga, this isn't some racing competition, Marvel ain't win shit.
>>83753697
FUCK is Evans laugh like an STD? Is it spreading?
>>83753827
Why are you replying to yourself?
>>83753853
No sorry, I said people care.
People care about Cap, Iron Man and the others.
Hell, Iron Man being liked is the reason the MCU exists in the first place.
DC doesn't have anyone like that anymore, and Fox is about to lose Wolverine, and even then, Wolverine, and X-Men in general has never been that popular.
>>83753467
>File: 1430533928529.png (207 KB, 367x454)
OMG
>>83753884
only one of those is mine
>>83753929
Which franchise of yours did Civil War destroy?
>>83753527
Which had the worst villain?
Apocalypse or Baron Emo??
>>83753925
It's OFFICIAL
This is how you spot people that have had unprotected sex with Chris Evans.
>>83753853
1.jpg, why don't you go back to bumping that dead Suicide Squad thread?
We all know how much you love shilling that DOA flick.
>>83753449
I think BvS was extremely medicore.
The brooding in the battle and the lack of any remorse for casualties during the fights put me off.
Luthor could have been a great villain, I expected him to have a much larger ulterior motive, but they can fix that when they decide to bring him back and wipe his nose.
The dialogue was bad too. But the fight scenes were okay. Endless plotholes and lack of common sense brought it down too.
It's a pretty forgettable filler movie that's mediocre entertainment.
But hey, its a pg13 surface level drama flick with depth intended for insecure manchildren. watch with That's my subjective view.
>>83753448
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>>83753970
"Lex"
Apocaylpse <<< BvS << CW <<< The Ultimate Cut
>>83753970
Apocalypse didn't do a single thing.
At least Zemo did break the Avengers.
>>83753970
Lex, he had absolutely no motivations.
>W-WE SHOULD CONTROL SUPERMAN IN CASE HE GOES FULL RETARD AND FUCKS UP OUR PLANET
>PLS KILL THE ONE GUY WITH THE BALLS TO STOP HIM
>ALSO LET ME CALL THIS DEMON SO HE CAN DESTROY EARTH
What the fuck?
>>83753273
Agreed
>>83754031
I guess you haven't been on /co/ much.
>>83754005
apocolypse killed a bunch of people
Zemo had nothing to do with the plot (the accords existed without him). His plan was dumb and should never have worked.
and he didn't "break the avengers" he just made two teams.
nice revenge
>>83754060
Jungle Book was good tho
>>83754080
>>83754031
>>83753929
>>83753884
>>83753853
>>83753765
>>83753712
>>83753664
>>83753632
>>83753523
>>83753449
>deleted
>this means the guy got banned
>yfw all these posts were made by 1.jpg
Just how butthurt can someone be?
>>83754023
But that wasn't the question? I asked who was worse Apoco or Zemo.
Try again
spider-man was pretty cool
>literally half the thread was 1.jpg samefagging
Woops.
>>83754107
>>83754106
How embarrassing.
>>83754087
>he just made two teams.
2 teams?
IronMan and a crippled black guy count as a team?
>>83754028
how is Disney making so much money when this is literally one of the worst years for movie theaters
>>83754107
>>83754106
Someone please cap this.
>>83754164
>how is Disney making so much money when this is literally one of the worst years for movie theaters
They focus on quality.
THANK YOU BASED RUSSOS
>>83753697
>>83753848
>Evans laugh like an STD
>>83753925
>>83753976
>This is how you spot people that have had unprotected sex with Chris Evans.
So thus far it's Sebastian and Lizzie?
>>83753217
Pure kino
>>83754204
Thank you, based Russos.
>>83754227
Only Stan.
Liz hasn't shown any boob grab.
>>83753217
Brilliant film anon. Can't wait for the Blu-ray
>>83754241
This is a good meme.
Black and white emphasizes cinematography, so those stills look even worse
What was your favourite quote?
>>83754241
Looks good desu. Might even top Guardians.
Civil War is great as a whole but because there's so many characters it suffers a bit from small arc syndrome.
Marvel adapts the source material and especially the characters with respect (except the villains), a huge contrast to the approach of Hollywood studios who dillute and alter stuff to the point it's a shit meaningless version.
>>83753448
You madman, you actually did it.
Whoa, I replied to a poster in this thread, now it's deleted, can someone explain?
I didn't break any rules or shitpost. Wtf??
>>83753473
Iron Man 1 should be in the top 5, but other than that not bad.
>>83754329
>What was your favourite quote?
Vision: "If you do this, they will never stop being afraid of you."
Witch:"I can't control their fear, only my own."
*Proceeds to wreak Vision.*
>>83754341
The cinematographer of GOTG did a decent job at improving AoU's cinematography over Avenger's.
Hope he works in IW.
>>83754424
This was when she was controlling him in Avengers HQ right?
>>83754298
4 are pretty good.
>>83754449
Yup
>>83754341
Looks like a TV show. Like everything Marvel makes.
>Decent into hell.
>>83754492
Why exactly?
>>83754521
>DCucks will disagree
>>83754329
Bucky: You couldn't have done that earlier?
Sam:... I hate you.
>>83754449
Technically, she was controlling the mind stone. But yeah, you got the right scene.
>>83754563
>I'm blind
>>83754681
>Wanda has more control over the stone than Vision
How can that autist expect to get his waifu?
>>83754702
No seriously, explain.
Why does that cinemagrid look like a TV show?
>>83754341
The still of Starlord in the middle right reminds me of Heart of Ice from BTAS
>>83754341
>>83754429
Doctor Strange is going to look so fucking good.
>>83754762
>black and white
>le french translation of the title
/tv/ pls go
The villain could have just sent Tony an e-mail and saved himself a lot of trouble.
The actual argument was boring and the fact that they fought each other was utterly stupid.
The fights themselves were entertaining.
Ant-Man and Spider-Man were great because they weren't moping around for no reason.
Honestly, enough Bucky. Bucky makes Cap a boring character. Cap is not about unshakeable loyalty to anything except what is conceptually good about America. How he deals with a corrupt government and a cynical population is super interesting. How he deals with someone who is mad at his friend is not.
This.
>>83754521
Why is marvel better bros?
Soooooooo
Will reviewers adjust the Rotten Tomatoe score to reflect The Ultimate Cut? seems fair enough
The ultimate is new standard, the theatrical never needs to be seen ever again
>>83754521
Thread. DCucks still mad though.
>>83754878
>Why is marvel better bros?
They care that the movie going public loves their characters as much as they do.
That's the secret.
>>83754715
Dunno. But he's got better chances than any of us, that's for true.
>>83754521
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>>83754521
I really wanted bvs to be good, too bad Snyder killed the dceu.
>>83754940
>holding her like that
Yup, confirmed autist
>>83754521
>>83754521
Do Snyderbots still exist?
>>83753473
>iron man 3
that was the worst movie in the series by far.
>>83754878
Meh, whatever. DC still has better comics, TV shows, animation and video games. Marvel can have this one.
>>83753804
BvS was still more entertaining and with less plot holes than any marvel movie to date sans maybe Cap America Winter Soldier. X Men movies have been utter shit since its inception, same with fantastic four. stay pleb and continue hating something simply because its a rival
>>83754521
Things that Civil War did better than BVS
>make you care about side characters
>knowing what to change from the comics
>knowing what not to change from the comics
>color
>having a hero to look up to
>setting up future movies without talking away from current one
>a believable reason for heroes to fight
>emphasizing the consequences of super powers in battle
>a hero that stands for truth
>a hero that stands for justice
>a hero that stands for the American way
>>83755006
Obviously I disagree, Iron Man 3 is the best in the series. The real answer is Iron Man 2. Not that's it's bad though, in fact both Winter Soldier & Civil War give Iron Man 2 so much more weight it's incredible.
>>83754521
>>83754521
Marvel won. 1.jpg btfo.
>>83754329
"Mission report. December sixteen, nineteen ninety-one."
That scene was excellent. Zemo is calm, politely and honestly answering Hydra-guy's questions, but utterly focused on his plan. Brühl's delivery was perfect.
>>83755067
>not realizing Cap has always been Hydra
Thank you based Nick Spencer
I guess Zemo was maybe the weakest part, even then not sure it mattered too much, he wasn't exactly necessary as an antagonist since it's both sides of protagonists fighting each other. And he didn't need to be a supervillain unless you wanted the movie to be even longer.
Maybe some people wouldn't have been as bothered if he was some other less important character than Zemo?
>>83754940
No, she'll be mine.
it was legit awful
>>83754922
>>83755120
She is 2cute4me. I can't wait for high-quality CW webms of her adorable face
>>83755102
>using a status quo that has less lasting power than Superman's death as part of an argument
Really? Come on, step it up a little.
>>83754521
>>83754521
How does 1.jpg feel now?
>>83755154
Hope Bluray comes out soon.
it was seriously horrible
>>83755119
Zemo is on of the best villains in the genre.
Zemo doesn't have a master plan, he calls audibles the whole way through and is looking for evidence he knows will tear the avengers apart.
Zemo's first plan (interrogating the Hydra agent) didn't work. The Hydra agent told him nothing and took the "1991" information to the grave. So Zemo's next plan is to get the international intelligence community to find Bucky, because Zemo does not have the resources to find him himself, How does he do this? By framing Bucky in a terrorist incident, aimed at the Accords, knowing their full resources will be used to find Bucky. Why does he need Bucky? To tell him about the details of the "1991" mission, to have Bucky tell him where the tape is showing the assassination of the Stark's, where the facility is that created him. That's why he needs the book with the activation words for Bucky that he got from the Hydra agents home, because Bucky is not going to tell him, if he even remembers, but a controlled Winter Soldier will.
That interrogation scene with Bucky is the only plan of Zemo that works out the way he wanted.
Steve, Stark, and Bucky showing up at the end was not part of his plan, but since he has them there and the tape of Stark's parents death, it's as good a place as any to use it.
-Every piece of dialog supports this, Zemo knows he can't physically hurt the Avengers himself "Stronger men have tried and failed".
tbc
>>83754933
This. They love the source material, whereas Zack and Bryan are ashamed of it.
Zack thinks you can't have two guys in costumes having a conversation.
>>83755225
tbc
Zemo finds the Hydra Agent in the first place because of Black Widow leaking all of Shields files on the net in CAP 2. Zemo says the files were heavily encrypted but because of his skills he has cracked the encryption and has spent the last year studying them to find a way to bring down the Avengers. We know from Iron Man 2 and Avengers 1 Hydra/Shield kept full psyche evaluations on these people, The Winter Soldiers main plot was about Hydra using a psyche evaluation algorithm to predict future threats. So there is no leap in logic about what Zemo would have in those files to study. He knows Stark, when seeing the death of his parents (proof), would do everything he could to kill Bucky, he knew Steve would do everything to keep that from happening, and that the two heads of the Avengers would tear each other apart over it somehow, someway.
And this isn't even going into his motivation. Basically a metaphor of all of the Avengers gallivanting over the years coming back to haunt them, those 3rd act battles biting them in the ass. If it wasn't for Zemo murdering innocents (which he didn't want to do, literally telling the Hydra agent to give him the 1991 mission report so he wont have too) he would be the good guy.
Amazing well written villain. Hell if anything he's the best BOND villain we have had in the last 30-40 years.
>>83753217
How do the Russo Brothers get away with making redpilled blockbusters like Winter Soldier and Civil War?
>>83754940
> Dat guilty headbow.
>>83755202
Ok, I'll humor you.
List everything that was wrong and a movie you find to be better.
>>83753217
Here is an analysis on Civil War even a DCuck can follow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACL8nKOUoxk&index=194&list=WL
GOAT outfit.
>>83754715
Connection with Mind Stone plus Chaos Magik.
>>83754521
>>83754521
Thread.
>>83755420
>>83755454
Is it you, 1.jpg?
>>83755154
>>83755199
>Hope Bluray comes out soon.
Four months. that's typically the time between theatrical and home-video release.
>>83755427
Thus far.
>>83755225
>>83755246
THIS.
Zemo was god-tier because he wasn't a god, or even an "enhanced individual". He was an intel agent who used intel very, very well. This was an ordinary man who played a chess game against gods and won. And he did it for the most human of all motivations: grief.
>>83754521
>>83754521
Civil war was bound to be better, they have a better established universe. Fell sorry for Dceu fans, if the still exist.
When will marvel flop b-bros?
>>83755555
>55555
You do not lie.
>>83755637
>Marvel
>Floping
Look at
>>83754521
>>83755518
Why is she so perfect.
>>83755555
>This was an ordinary man who played a chess game against gods and won
Aside from the robot, no one on the Avengers he took on is anything like a God. Just a bunch of men and women with exotic gear, a frozen caveman hopped up on Serum, and a chick with weird powers she can barely control.
The robot is so disaffected and benign that he's pretty much a non-factor in the scheme from the beginning.
>>83755637
Long after DC dies.
>>83754776
>The villain could have just sent Tony an e-mail and saved himself a lot of trouble.
Sending Tony an email would mean the likelihood of Bucky being right next to him while he was watching it, and Tony going apeshit as a result, would be very small.
>>83755637
X Men Apocalypse
X Men Origins Wolverine
Only actually good movies are Captain America and Guardians of the Galaxy, the rest of Marvel's movies (whether it be 20th Century Fox, Sony or Disney) are mostly garbage. Avengers 1 was decent but Avengers 2 was terrible.
>>83755730
He didn't ask about movies that triggered your Autism, he asked when they'd make a movie that'll shit up Rotten Tomatoes and crap the bed at the box office.
>>83755730
IM1 is better than first Avenger and Avengers.
>>83755730
>not liking ant-man
>not liking the best live action lex luthor this decade
>>83755555
Quints confirm. Zemo, Panther and Cap were the only great things of the movie, which is a 6.5/10 for me.
>>83755682
>ywn kiss those lips
>>83755730
Whether you like them or not does not make them flops. MCU has not had a real box office flop yet.
When people mention Marvel in movie context they don't mean Fox X-men.
>>83755846
>6.5/10 for me.
Might I ask why so low?
Is it because you have some major gripe with it or super hero movies as a whole?
Lets see here, in terms of just Characters DC beats Marvel
Batman > Captain America
Flash > Quicksilver
Dr. Fate > Dr. Strange
Green Arrow > Hawkeye
Superman > Thor
Cyborg > Ironman
Wonder Woman > Black Widow
Green Lantern > Vision
the sad thing about marvel is they just copied DC's characters.
>>83755846
>Spider-Man
>Not getting the entire point of the character correct
Now if only they would stop trying to shove the movie ideas onto the comics and just let the comics be themselves.
>>83755518
Reminds me of Helena's default costume in DOA2, which gave me a fetish for that kind of costume.
Imagine an evolution of CW costume with more gothic ornateness and maybe a tiara of some sort.
>>83755518
Can't wait for IW to see Wanda and Vision.
>>83755940
>Green Arrow > Hawkeye
I never thought someone could be that stupid.
>the sad thing about marvel is they just copied DC's characters.
Just like how Aquaman is a copy?
>>83755682
Powers + sympathetic vulnerability make for cuteness.
>>83755981
This very "Civil War" image made more sense before Civil War and it showing how Vision isn't really better than any of them.
MCU power rankings
>Superman the Movie-tier:
Winter Soldier
Iron Man
Guardians of the Galaxy
>Batman 89'/TDK tier:
Captain America Civil War
Ant-Man
The Avengers
>Batman Begins-tier:
Captain America: The First Avenger
Avengers Age of Ultron
Iron Man 3
>Superman Returns-tier:
Thor
Thor: The Dark World
Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
>Man of Steel/BvS-tier
none as of yet
>Green Lantern-tier:
nigga pls
>>83755555
>and won
Zemo didn't win though.
>>83755954
>Imagine an evolution of CW costume with more gothic ornateness
We may get something more fancy if Marvel decides to involve her with Strange. Maybe take some outfit inspiration. We'll definitely get something new in IF. If I recall correctly, the reason she didn't use the outfit from the end of AoU is because the Russos felt she wasn't quite 'hero status' yet in the movies. So she'll probably have something really cool when her current development arc is complete.
>and maybe a tiara of some sort.
lolno. Olsen's apparently against the tiara. And I agree. It would look silly.
>>83756031
>even the villains find her qt
>>83756148
>Zemo didn't win though.
Didn't he?
>>83756204
>that qt belly
>>83756148
Cap and crew are in hiding, running from the law of world governments.
The Avengers broken, made up of a cripple, a heart broken android, and Tony having to live with his actions that caused it all with the knowledge of how is parents died.
Zemo absolutely won.
>>83755555
Glad there are some people he did enjoy this version go Zemo. He needs to come back
>>83756302
Yeah, poor Team Cap hidden in Wakanda, eating cheetos, sitting their asses on a sofa and watching TV all day.
>>83756311
He is, just wish his version of Thunderbolts would exist before Ross' version. Then again there aren't that many established villains so it would be hard to make Zemo's version for a long while.
>>83756332
I don't think they will be in Wakanda since I doubt they will be in the Black Panther solo.
>>83756453
Same anon.
I like Incredible Hulk though.
>>83756480
It's my favourite MCU film
>>83756031
>Sympathetic
Nothing says vulnerable like unleashing the Hulk on a civilian population.
>>83756204
Thanos wrecking shit is going to be the moment when she has to be stronger than she's ever been, or ever thought she could be, and carry the enormous weight of it all on her shoulders.
When Thanos comes for the Mind Stone she's going to be the last line of defense.
>>83756548
She wasn't emotionally vulnerable until Pietro died.
It took the last of her family to die for her cuteness to go off the charts.
>>83756586
Re read the post you fucking retard.
/co/ has such a bad fucking taste in movies jesus fucking christ.
>>83756638
Are you this stupid?
>>83753217
That's an extremely lazy way to start a thread.
>>83756713
>>83756717
"muh rotten tomatoes measure"
what are you going to say when SJW shills at rotten tomatoes give Ghostbusters 2016 a 98% rating when it really deserves a -9000% rating?
>>83756586
It's likely her connection to the Mind Stone that's probably going to be what allows Thanos to be defeated.
>She'll manipulate the Mind Stone while it's in the gauntlet, momentarily fucking with the Gauntlet's function.
>This window of distraction will allow for Cap to land a kill blow on Thanos, wielding his shield and Mjolnir, with a boost from Wanda 'just like they practiced'.
>The act will cost Cap his life. Everyone will gather around to mourn the loss of Captain Steven G. Rogers.
This will play as it happens cause' based Silvestri is scoring IW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWyPtI9Gpl8
>>83756417
> Wanda is lured away by Strange (mentor-cucking Steve). Thus Wanda's increase in power in IW won't look like an ass-pull.
> Scott finds his way back to Hank and Hope.
Witchy and ANTS would be totally out of place in the Black Panther movie.
> Clint goes back to his "off the grid" family.
Basically just Steve as Nomad, with Sam (with cool new Vibranium costume) in Wakanda
>>83756882
This. The connection between Wanda and Vision is going to be crucial to saving the entire fucking universe.
>>83753217
Great movie. Top 5 Capeshit, but WS and Ants were both better.
>>83757011
Some of that may pan out but I see the rest of Caps crew linking up with Fury, with Bucky still on ice in Wakanda.
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>>83755421
>1.jpg so mad he started falseflagging and samefagging
>>83757293
>all those deleted posts
>>83756276
The film answers that with the following scene.
>>83756302
Steve writes Tony a letter apologizing. Tony smiles and puts Ross on hold. Steve writes that if Tony ever needs his team, or needs him, that they'll be there. Steve had sent a way to contact him.
The fact that this scene immediately follows the "Did it?" question tells you that yes, Zemo's plan did fail. Even crippled negro sidekick tells Tony he stands by his own choices during the movie and doesn't regret what he did. So the teams are separated, Tony's team is bruised emotionally or physically and Team Cap is on the run from the law but possibly all hanging out in Wakanda. But just like at the end of Avengers 1, they'll come together if the world needs them to.
There may be bad blood throughout the ranks and even between Steve and Tony, but the ending the movie makes it exceedingly clear that the bridge wasn't burned.
>>83756713
>tfw no demon-eye'd qt waifu
>>83756713
"Why are people scared of me?"
>>83756148
Even worse for them. When he learns he failed he will go on a rampage.
>>83757376
Why would anyone be scared of this cuddle machine?
>>83755940
Hawkeye cucked GA rendering that moot.
>>83757419
This.
Anyone who thinks Green Arrow is better is a brain dead fanboy.
It's like picking mega blocks over lego.
>>83756638
I want to give her a big hug.
>>83753473
>The Incredible Hulk at the bottom
Can't disagree with you too much else, honestly. A few changes (IM 1 is definitely best of Phase 1), but pretty solid. Except that TIH is a great movie.
>>83757547
Many do.Especially me.
>>83755063
>stay pleb and continue hating something simply because its a rival
He says as he wholesale shits on Marvel.
BvS was entertaining, sure, but it suffered from some serious storytelling issues thanks to Snyder.
>>83753217
Everything about Bucky, Cap and Tony was fucking perfect. I loved them all, in all their scenes. They even elevate some other characters.
The movie falters when that's not the core of the film. They spend too much time trying to make the accords the core of the film when the accords should just be decoration around that relationship. Same for the other characters - they're handled better than they should be, but not nearly enough to carry themselves, not when compared to the main 3.
>>83753217
It was alright. I liked the airport fight and Spiderman but there weren't very many memorable moments. The editing was a little weird and the scene transitions felt off at times. The music was subpar unfortunately and there were a lot of inconsistencies.
couple flaws. biggest irk for me is tony has fuckhuge laser beams in his wrists, why not just decapitate Bucky and fly away? one of the biggest irks. I'd have enjoyed it if there was more thoughtful dialogue between the avengers, not any attempt of understanding, just hunt down cap and duke it out. otherwise great, fun, hype movie, top tier if you don't think too much I guess
>>83757606
>dem feet
Markus and McFeely knew what they were doing.
>>83757383
I see him adopting the "Baron" title, maybe if they use the concept of him being Sokovian royal family descendant.
>>83757802
> If Vision had not entered the room, Cap would have tickled her cute little feet and playfully made her giggle on the bed.
>>83757860
Cute as that is, that doesn't really sound like Steve. He understands his boundaries.
>>83757860
Vision's anti-cuckoldry alarm wouldn't have allowed it.
>>83757954
>Vision has a virgin alarm
Lol.
>>83757940
Yup, Wanda and Cap are the purest
>>83755940
I don't get it, is it in terms of power? What are you comparing? Flash and Superman are both the most broken, OP characters of all time. It doesn't make any sense to try and compare them with anyone.
So.. while I know this is a CW thread, thinking a little beyond this; Who do you feel, in the current settings, could be adapted to appear in later films that haven not ever been? Good guy or bad. Like folks who casuals have likely never heard of.
>>83758261
Death's Head (classic Freelance Peacekeeper DH, not the shite DH2 version)
Nova
Dormammu
C(uck)thon
Shuma Gorath
Captain Britain
Doctor Doom (pending rights)
>>83758377
>Dormammu
>C(uck)thon
How would these even work? MCU phase one went out of it's way to establish that sorcery/the supernatural doesn't exist in their universe.
It was good. In the top 5 best of MCU for sure. RDJ wasn't half-assing it like in AOU. Pretty sure he was eager to be in this because he knew the Russo's would do a better job with the character.
>>83758552
I don't know, maybe they will use a cosmic character like Magus with aspects ripped from High Evolutionary and Dormammu.
>>83759162
>all posts deleted at the same time
That means the guy got banned,AKA is the same guy.
Probably 1.jpg samefagging because mods destroyed him earlier in the thread and his sad samefagging attempts.
Feels so good.
>>83758552
There are literally magic reviving ninjas.
>>83759198
That's not how it works you faggot.
Deleting posts=/=ban
>>83759385
>>83759198
Mods can delete the posts of more than one person at a time. New faggots I swear..
>>83759385
No, but there's a certain ban that just automatically deletes all your recent posts.
You can see that because he also deleted 1.jpg's posts in another thread at the same time.
Tony was right.
Zemo did nothing wrong.
Steve needs to get over himself and accept that he can't be running around doing whatever he wants with his century old buddies like its 1944 again.
>>83759687
Maybe you were shitposting too.
Sorry pham.
>LaughingEvans
Why hello there, 1.jpg.
>>83759162
Your two fathers did.
>>83759818
Who said I was a DC friend?
>>83759933
Only people who come to CW threads to complain.
BvS' failure really broke a lot of ''people''.
>>83760001
If I was I would have already banned you.
>>83759961
So dissecting and criticizing a flawed movie makes me a DCfriend?
You have the mentality of a tumblr user
>>83753217
The crossovers and big battle and the reveal at the end were all worth it.
>>83760253
No they weren't. It was a shit movie. Face it.
>>83753348
Uh, no, not really.
>>83760462
lol so mad
>shitposting the coke addict slut
Niggas, Sebby is best man
>>83754204
THANK YOU BASED RUSSOS
>>83758261
Kree-Skrull war if they ever get the rights back. Although I suppose they could change it up and make it Kree-Chitauri war. Somehow work the Ultimates 2/Liberators arc into a movie, although since they go full ham on wanting international audiences, I'd assume every villain would end up coming from best Korea
>>83760976
>Lizzie
>touching drugs
>unironically posting homosexuals
>>83760462
but i like the Evansposter, his images always make me smile anon.
stop the h8
>>83761134
Have you seen her sisters? The slut has been doing drugs ever since she was in the fucking womb and trust me, alcohol fetal syndrome isn't cute.
>>83761210
I have, that's why I know she's pure.
If she did drugs, she would look exactly like them.
>>83761194
This.
Chris Evans' smile is a gift upon this Earth.
We shall take every chance we have to post it, and make other's happy.
>>83761263
STOP.
Stop this rudeness right now.
>>83761263
Ahh, I love the smell of butthurt in the morning
>>83761134
I can't unsee the autism hands now that they've been pointed out to me
>>83761336
It's qt.
>>83760341
Pretty sure he's talking in terms of 2016.
>>83761332
its just a funny image anon.
stop being so bootyblasted, its sad.
>>83761388
>shitposts on 4chan
>tells me to kill myself
I kekked hard
>>83761364
>QT
>has saggy titties
Even Evans in drag is cuter
>>83761298
Elizabeth Olsen is my waifu, I'll stop telling you the truth.
If you're not the Evans poster, please post more of her, if you are the Evans poster, you're pathetic scum who will never be loved.
>>83761388
Relax anon.
Just open this pic and look at her eyes for one minute straight.
You'll feel much better.
>>83761441
>saggy tits
Nope.
>>83761447
>more rudness
NO
>>83761475
She has had a boob job, anon, don't delude yourself.
>>83761414
>>83761406
>That goalpost movement
You will never amount to anything above hunting 1.jpg, posting Evans and being a 4chan exclusive beta. I've already won haha
>>83761507
Nope, she's a natural qt.
>>83753217
Barely a war.
>>83761457
>>83761475
You're right, what have I become? Belittling the lower class on 4chan. I guess the Evans posters obsession with a file name has bittered me.
But the Olsenposters, keep doing what you do, you're appreciated.
It's just the pathetic Evans faggot everyone hates
>>83761582
Don't delude yourself. Both Evanposters and Olsenposters are autistic basement dwelling landwhales and homos.
>>83761622
Found the CapxBucky shipping Tumblrina.
>>83761622
Fuck, you're right.
>>83761622
Why would fat bitches and faggots post pictures of a hot chick?
>>83761622
>Zemoposter tries to start a civil war in the thread
You need some Lizzie in your life.
>>83761663
Faggots post pictures of Evans, while lesbian (or muuh bi) landwhales shitpost the slut
>>83761663
Olsenposter are ugly chicks who project through Olsen posting
Evans posters are ugly as sin faggots who are basement dwelling autists that have no future, that project through Evans samefagging
>>83761732
t. jealous tumblr landwhale
Sorry you'll never get to be this perfect.
>>83761732
So Evans and Olsen posting is degenerate?
>>83761771
Nope, both are pure.
>>83761699
>>83761732
>>83761736
>>83761758
We've all got a common goal here, the Evans poster
>>83761758
>>83761781
>this delusion
Oh boy
>>83761807
>>83761809
Sorry you can't withstand the perfect qt.
i miss quicksilver
>>83761831
>perfect
>implying
>>83761860
>her
>not perfect
>implications
>Evans poster in the /co/
>Evans poster over at /pol/
>Evans poster at /lgbt/
>Evans poster at /hm/
>Evans poster /tv/
>Evans poster /r9k/
How come he's never in /s/ or anything non degenerate really?
>>83761834
Why are they so brown. Gypsies look like this.
>>83761885
Maybe there's more one one people posting Chris Evans pictures
>>83761894
Holy shit, didn't know RDJ was a gypsy
>>83761885
>1.jpg still angry
lmaoing@ your life
>hating on Lizzie
Why are homosexuals allowed to run free?
>>83762281
No one hates Lizzie or Evans
Just the posters.
>>83762342
Why would you hate Lizposters?
>this thread
>>83762360
Okay, we just hate the Evans poster.
Keep posting please
>>83754164
Because Disney is basically the only studio that doesn't regularly set itself on fire every month with stupid-ass decisions. And they've made so much money over their history, but especially in the past few years, that they can afford to tank the occasional Alice Through the Looking Glass or Finest Hours. Because they never bet their whole studio on the success of a single movie.
>>83754204
THANK YOU BASED RUSSOS
>>83758552
And yet we're getting Doctor Strange, Sorcerer Supreme, who does not work as anything other than a spellcaster.
Pretty sure magic exists.
>>83753473
>Cap 1 that high
>Ant-Man over Daredevil
>IM 3 over 1
>>83753473
>Hulk worse than either of the Thor movies
literally how
A meh movie. I don't understand all that fuss about it
>>83755555
Rather impressed, succinct and direct summation of the power of a man that I had not considered. Most of his development was off-screen, but isn't that where such actions take place best? I hope he didn't die now.
>>83755225
>>83755246
He gets it
>>83753473
Dragon Ball fight scenes were so fucking perfect.
>>83753217
The junked the interesting accord plot for muh bucky crap. I wanted to hear Caps reasoning for being a fascist
I 100% believe that it is the worst Cap movie. Not that it's bad it just could've been so much better and I think that's why I don't like it as much.
>>83754329
"Do you even remember them?"
"I remember ALL of them."
Being Bucky is suffering...
>>83762494
>we
Stop pretending it's more than one who hates him, 1.jpg
>>83754164
Because the eagles directed those movies.
>>83762360
Perfection.
>>83762828
>And yet we're getting Doctor Strange, Sorcerer Supreme, who does not work as anything other than a spellcaster.
They'll probably change him to having draw his powers from an infinity stone or something so that he fits in the logic of the MCU. It's all just science, not sorcery.
SCHMIDT WAS RIGHT.
>>83768089
Well, the stones are magic.
>>83768162
Nah. More like they just give off outrageous levels of unique radiation. They're like plutonium but with inexhaustible amounts of power.
>>83754204
THANK YOU BASED RUSSOS
>>83761512
Now this is just sad
>>83767833
Verily.
>>83753473
>Guardians of the memes over Antman
Besides that, everything else is fine.
Avatarfagging is a bannable offence
>>83769363
Having a waifu is not.
MFW 1.jpg got his post removed before I could witness his autism
>>83769481
What do you suppose are the chances that news media within the MCU will label him as Giant Man because of amateur camera footage of the battle at Leipzig/Halle airport? And it'll all be to Scott's annoyance. 'I'm Ant-Man, not Giant.. Whatever, forget it'.
Decent flick, too bad it underperformed.
>>83767024
Nah m8, not that guy but you're much more autistic than him. You're probably the most hated cross poster.
>>83769634
We don't want serious discussions here, only waifu posting and company wars.
>>83756353
The only one that comes to my mind is Abomination, there arent many MCU villians alive.
It had it's moments, but it was definitely one of the weaker entries into the superhero genre. I liked X-men and even SvB more this year.
>>83770188
This. X-men apocalypse was everything Civil War should have been, but better. So was bvs.
Even deadpool, suicide squad and doctor strange look better in comparison.
>>83769933
>not that guy
Yes it's you, 1.jpg
Sorry everyone knows about you.
>>83761834
Why do they look like Jojo characters?
>>83770233
>being THIS mad
Both Fox and DC have fallen into irrelevancy.
Fox depends entirely on Deadpool to make MCU Z-lister movie money since X-Men is already dead, and DC died 3 months ago.
>>83770233
>being so much in denial
BvS has been the laughstock of the year, and nobody cares about X-Men.
>>83770389
Nice company war post, only one mad here is you.
>>83770458
Why?
Civil War won, and the rest have been run into the ground.
X-Men Apocalypse's thing is embarassing.
>>83770367
>OlsenPoster thinks anyone who doesn't like Civil war is a DC friend
You're paranoid.
>this whole thread
>>83770486
But 1.jpg, she's your qt waifu.
So why aren't these company flame wars mongrels being banned?
Or the Lizzie Avatarposter?
Or the Evans avatar faggot?
Best of the year, along with Deadpool.
Apocalypse was boring, and BvS was a fucking disgrace.
>>83770523
lol so mad
>>83770523
>come to thread
>get BTFO
>even jannies are laughing at him
>P-PLEASE STOP
Lets just say you'll never ever see the filename (1).jpg ever again. He's probably already infiltrated your ranks, posing as the olsenposter, ,':^)
>>83770396
>>83770611
>____.jpg
>>83770611
>He
Why are you speaking as if you were another one?
>He's probably already infiltrated your ranks
So the MCU is going to stop being a success?
I think it was extremely medicore.
The quipping in the battle and the lack of any threat during the fights put me off.
Zemo could have been a great villain, I expected him to have a much larger ulterior motive, but they can fix that when they decide to bring him back.
The dialogue was bad too. But the fight scenes were okay. Endless plotholes and lack of common sense brought it down too.
It's a pretty forgettable filler movie that's mediocre entertainment.
But hey, its a pg13 surface level comedy flick with no depth intended for children. watch with That's my subjective view
>>83770700
>>83753449
Hi 1.jpg, why did you repost something you posted yesterday and that got deleted?
>>83770700
>>83770611
>>83770523
>>83770486
>>83770458
>>83770396
>>83770233
>>83769933
>>83769909
>>83762494
Poor guy has lost it.
Mods please, he needs a time off 4chan, give him the help he needs.
>>83770723
>it's true
>he even gave up his filename
>>83770700
>1.jpg has given up his filename
My job here is done, have a good day everyone.
>>83770766
None, which means you gave up.
Civil War won, and the last DCEU fan gave up.
This is a good day.
>>83770765
>>83770723
>>83770786
Who said I was 1.jpg? I just borrowed something from the thread earlier.
Copy pasta pham
I am (one) of you
We were all rused from the start.
>>83756302
>and Tony having to live with his actions that caused it all
Technically, Cap's the one that fucked up. He made just about every wrong call he possibly could have, called in Avengers that were minding their own business to help out with what would turn out to be a goose chase, got Rhodey hurt, hid shit he shouldn't have from Tony. Only thing Tony's guilty of is not pushing back against Ross's influence earlier than he did.
>>83756713
Wow, that's legitimately creepy.
>>83771475
The Olsen poster is a DCfag?
>>83756713
>>83756754
What a contrast.
>>83771596
Nope, 1.jpg is an Olsen waifufag.
>>83771672
Wow, rude.
>>83771642
So why is he still posting Olsen's? He's been posting them in this thread this whole time, what's going on?
>>83771756
There's a couple of Olsen waifufags in here that post her in MCU threads.
1.jpg is one of those, although not very active, he's too busy defending the DCEU's crater.
>>83754762
Wow. That actually looks good.
>>83757547
It's awesome that we live in a world where "psionics" is part of a legitimate character description.
Whether you're a DC or Marvel fan, it's a grand time to be alive.
>>83771847
I told you to stop being so rude.
And no, the MCU is great and so was CW.
>>83771926
Infinite rudeness.
Smh desu, baka
>>83772021
I'm glad mods aren't as rude as you.
>>83753217
It was surprising dull and uninteresting
>>83753217
It was predictable, deep and interesting.
>>83772207
Dead.
>>83771433
This. For all his faults, Tony was desperately trying to keep the Avengers together because A. He knows the Aliens are still coming and B. He'll never admit it, but the Avengers are the closest thing he has to a family and he does treasure that bond, even if everyone else is still awkward over what happened with Ultron. Strangely enough, out of all the Avengers, Tony probably cares about the team the most out of all of them (especially given his vision in AoU) which is a Stark contrast to his selfish, smug demeanor he puts on as a front to hide his loneliness and paranoia.
Based mods.
>>83769634
Yeah, seems likely
>>83753448
new pasta? nice m8
based mods shutting down the nonsense.
does anyone have the Cap vs BW cinematic fight?
>>83754204
THANK YOU BASED RUSSOS
>>83774032
From what?
So why are the Olsen posts still up? Mods removed most of the Evans.
>>83774618
Because she's best girl of course.
Only shitposting got deleted.
>>83754329
>I thought that was a water truck.
>>83754329
>''Get in the plan and fuck off back to chimp land, Nig Panther.''
What went wrong.
>>83774820
She signed the marvel contract
>>83754164
>yfw disney gets a bigger cut if deadpool than ryan reynolds does
>>83774959
Sure sure, whatever you say, go be permanently butthurt at Marvel elsewhere.
>>83754329
>My name's Clint.
>I don't care.
Best quip ever.
>>83775018
THIGHS
>>83775018
Then what went right?
>>83775072
Thighs?
>>83775189
Mods pls delete this butthurt. :)
>>83775056
Thats not a quip
>>83775089
Thighs.
>>83753473
Do people really hold Civil War to that high of a standard? ABOVE The Avengers? Really? It wasn't even better than Winter Soldier.
>>83775272
>above Avengers
Why not?
I mean, it was special because it was the first team up, but it's quite average right now.
Civil War is a better Avengers movie than the other two.
Really hopeful for IW.
its pretty good if you're already invested in the Marvel movies.
Otherwise, meh.
>>83775297
>same filename as earlier in the thread
Madness and anger.
Thanks once again, mods.
>all non Lizzie posts are getting filtered and deleted
>mfw it's a 100% Lizzie Civil War thread
Finally mods are deleting company war shit
>>83775403
It's perfect, isn't it?
>>83775480
>Mfw I only watched civil war for her
When will she get her on solo film?
>>83775599
When CIA gets a solo DCEU kino.
>>83755246
>>83755225
this guy gets it.
>>83755555
Checked for truth
>>83756148
he did not win, but that doesn't mean he didn't succeed.
>>83775680
Yes, it does.
>>83771433
>Technically, Cap's the one that fucked up. He made just about every wrong call he possibly could have,
Yeah like not letting the cops execute someone. Or being the only fucking guy to realize the psychiatrist was a fraud.
>called in Avengers that were minding their own business to help out with what would turn out to be a goose chase
Yeah, finding the guy who bombed the UN certainly didn't matter at all.
>got Rhodey hurt,
I forgot Cap was the one who told Vision to shoot
>>83775703
it's calleda pyrrhic victory. not everything is black and white
>>83775302
Avengers is the quintessential summer blockbuster. The script is great, action, character interactions, it's a legitimate film.
Civil War is a product that was only realized because a certain actor wanted a paycheck and a bigger role. The film is filled to the brim with shallow drama to justify that actors presence in the film. The film also has jarring tonal shifts as well as quips at inappropriate moments that deflate tension.
>>83774233
Civil War, its part of the extras that got realease
ANTS
>>83775709
>Or being the only fucking guy to realize the psychiatrist was a fraud.
Yet he kept it to himself instead of trying to talk to Tony about it. By the time he finally let him know, it was too.late and Tony was too worried about the guvmint coming in and wasting a number of his friends to care about the psychiatrist, who Cap had no evidence of being responsible anyway.
>Yeah, finding the guy who bombed the UN certainly didn't matter at all.
I was really more referring to people like Hawkeye the fact that the Winter Soldiers were all dead when he arrived. Everything was done to trick Cap and Tony, and while Tony fell for it as well, Cap actively chased him and played directly into his scheme.
Pretty much everything that went wrong in Civil War was a case of Cap having about million better ways he could have handled the situation, most of which involve just signing the fucking Accords for the time being so he and his friends don't go to jail. It still bothers me that the only reason he didn't sign is because Tony wouldn't let Wanda leave the Avengers compound when it was literally the only thing between her and detention without trial.
>>83775801
>The script is great, action, character interactions
Civil War beats it on all 3 fronts
>>83775801
Civil War is better in every aspect, plus the enemy isn't just horde of hentchmen.
>>83759198
Are you saying that people who stating that Civil War is just a mediocre flick are a one person? Seriously, kill yourself.
>>83776124
No, but that specific person was the same.
>>83776046
No it doesn't lol.
>"orange slices!!!"
Give me a break lol.
Not to mention Avengers doesn't have schlocky Shakey Cam to hide the fact that the director can't direct.
>>83776142
Kill yourself, Whedon.
Thanks for Scarlet Witch and Vision, but you can fuck off now.
>>83776142
>not enjoying the orange slices line
sorry you never played a sport, anon. It got a lel out of me.
>>83775899
>Yet he kept it to himself instead of trying to talk to Tony about it.
Because Tony sure believed him.
>By the time he finally let him know, it was too late
According to who? Tony? Lmao
>and Tony was too worried about the guvmint coming in and wasting a number of his friends to care about the psychiatrist, who Cap had no evidence of being responsible anyway.
So you admit Tony wouldn't have believed him anyway.
>I was really more referring to people like Hawkeye the fact that the Winter Soldiers were all dead when he arrived. Everything was done to trick Cap and Tony, and while Tony fell for it as well,
Cap asked Hawkeye to help him stop Zemo. Iron Man threw Hawley in jail. Who did him a bigger disservice?
>Cap actively chased him and played directly into his scheme.
If Tony just let Cap's team go they could have captured him without incident. Tony is the one who caused there to be a huge scene at the end.
>most of which involve just signing the fucking Accords for the time being
The first discussion over it was cut short by the funeral, and then he was about to sign it literally the next time he had a chance to until he found out Tony was hiding more shit.
>when it was literally the only thing between her and detention without trial.
[citation needed]
Best capeshit villain.
>>83775757
So not only are you wrong about Zemo, but you assume I don't know what a pyrrhic victory is.
Zemo did not "win" because his mission failed, I wasn't talking about his capture as the state of him "winning" or "failing."
Of course if you bothered to read any more of the thread or the reply chain from that one post specifically, you'd have seen how the movie makes it extremely clear Zemo did not win. Just look at my post here >>83757324
Saying Zemo won is like those retarded "the real world is another matrix" theories. They only work if you completely ignore what the movie tells you directly either though dialogue or editing.
>>83754143
And Vision and Spider-man and Black Panther
>>83776427
Doesn't seem to me like Tony will make Spiderman a permanent member of the team.
>>83776361
>>83757324
>So the teams are separated
Now that's we've all discussed it, we can finally agree that Tony was right and Cap was wrong.
Doesn't need an extended edition to become good movie
>>83776142
>big bag of weed?
>I don't see how that's a party
>shawarma
>Doth mother know you wearers her drapes?
Kill yourself whedon
>>83776229
>Because Tony sure believed him.
At that point, Tony had no reason to, and far more reason to bring him in. Cap went off the radar, turned everyone into fugitives, and outright refused to sign the Accords because "muh wanda." In Tony's eyes, Cap was being an outright retard (which he kind of was.)
>So you admit Tony wouldn't have believed him anyway.
He would have been skeptical, but at least he would have been willing to give it some thought. By the time they were at the airport, Tony had but a day to bring Cap and Bucky in, and the fact that Cap got the rest of the avengers involved just put even more at stake.
>If Tony just let Cap's team go they could have captured him without incident. Tony is the one who caused there to be a huge scene at the end.
You do remember that the whole reason Tony wanted to take Cap and co. in was because he knew Ross wouldn't even bother trying to arrest them, right? He was far more concerned with Cap and the Avengers not being fugitives or worse (likely worse, for a number of them) than he was about who was responsible for the bombing and why, which kind of ties into what >>83772374 pointed out about Tony.
Besides, literally all he had was Cap's word, and he knew Cap was in "muh Bucky" mode.
>The first discussion over it was cut short by the funeral, and then he was about to sign it literally the next time he had a chance to until he found out Tony was hiding more shit.
Tony wasn't even really hiding it, it just never came up till then. He didn't think it was a big deal because logically speaking, Wanda shouldn't be leaving the compound when she's at the center of all the political drama at that moment and has no rights as an citizen yet, meaning they can legally detain/deport her with no issue at all. He wasn't being an ass when he said he was protecting her; the Avengers were literally the only thing between her and a million people that want her in a straight jacket. (that said, he should have told at least her.)
>>83769634
>Mr. Lang, what was it like being punched square in the jaw by both Tony Stark and Colonel James Rhodes?
>It was extremely painful.
>You were a big guy.
>For you.
>>83775709
>I forgot Cap was the one who told Vision to shoot
Technically, if Cap had just tried to contact Tony with what he knew in the first place instead of running off with Bucky, there wouldn't have been an airport incident at all.
>>83776480
That isn't an argument and it doesn't show that I'm wrong. Keep trying though.
>>83776891
>Technically, if Cap had just tried to contact Tony with what he knew in the first place instead of running off with Bucky, there wouldn't have been an airport incident at all.
Yeah because Tony would have just showed up at the warehouse to get them instead.
Of Tony hadn't gone to start a fight at the airport there wouldn't be an airport incident either.
>>83776825
What is this pic from
>>83777069
>Of Tony hadn't gone to start a fight at the airport there wouldn't be an airport incident either.
Instead, Ross would have. There wouldn't be an incident, but there would be a potentially dead Falcon/Hawkeye/Wanda/Scott/Rogers or more.
>>83776906
>Zemo breaks up the avengers
>LOL what a loser
that's you, anon. Thinking he failed makes you more of an idiot than your long winded reasoning implies.
>>83777141
How would Ross know when they'd be at the airport? He couldn't find Banner, a guy with no resources, who actively avoided using his powers, for years
Remember the only reason they knew to go to the airport was Black Widow
>>83777131
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xnbyefdpdk
wasn't hard to find. I hadn't seen it either tho.
>>83777141
Not to mention dead soldiers.
Tony went because he wanted to prevent casualties. People tend to forget that he wasn't there under Ross's instruction; he was there under Ross's permission, and he begged Ross to let him handle this because the alternative is bound to leave corpses on either side.
>>83777169
Try responding to the post I referred you to.
Any response to what you just posted is just going to be another version of >>83757324
The team will still function if the world needs them to, or if Tony needs Cap. Steve apologized to Tony. The person defending his friend's life apologized to someone that attempted murder. That scene coming right after Zemo's "Did it?" tells you directly that Zemo did not succeed. It's the most basic form of information via editing.
I can only assume you won't talk about any of that because you can't without it ruining your position.
You're ignoring it because you have no response.
>>83777199
>He couldn't find Banner, a guy with no resources, who actively avoided using his powers, for years
pretty sure that was part of WHY he couldn't find him.
Team Cap wasn't exactly subtle about their escape plans, and Ross had the borders covered. In fact, I'm pretty sure the only reason Cap managed to escape Germany is because of the Stark's Quinjet and it's stealth capabilities.
>>83777366
Not even that guy but h....here I go.
Cap forgave Tony. We have no indication the goodwill goes both ways. Even of it does, the scene you keep referring to shows that Rhodey, at least, still believes he was 100% in the right. He's probably not ready to forgive Cap, even if Tony is.
>Tony smiles and puts Ross on hold
Something he told Ross he'd do before going to Siberia, so it doesn't make sense to use this as evidence that he's over Siberia.
>>83777366
I'm ignoring it because the "Did it?" line almost literally informs the audience that he succeeded. I'm sorry for everyone around you that this somehow goes over your head and forces you to over-analyze the most basic of conversation. Responding line for line to your repeated walls of text isn't worth trying to convince some dumbass anon on the internet. Stay contrarian, it makes you so smart.
>>83753473
The Avengers is weak as fuck and I couldn't even be bothered to finish it a second time.
>>83777427
Cap was able to avoid being tracked by SHIELD in Winter Soldier and SHIELD's surveillance capabilities were just absurd so I'd say you're wrong about that.
>>83777479
>walls of text
Go back to twitter where the character limit is a bit more your speed.
>>83777476
He's probably still angry about the events of Siberia, but he's had time to cool off and is still concerned about the Avengers being split like they are.
He's probably not ready to forgive him, but the fact that Steve extended an olive branch probably put his mind at ease somewhat.
>>83777510
Cap wasn't trying to leave the country in Winter Soldier.
Surveillance or not, borders can be a bitch to get around for first world countries, especially international ones when you are an internationally wanted fugitive.
>>83777619
He had a private helicopter this time
Can we all agree that she did nothing wrong?
>>83777641
Thanks for bringing that up; I'm a little curious as to how Steve planned to fly from Germany to Siberia in a helicopter, especially when he's a wanted criminal...
>>83777667
Probably have someone else fly it and not say Captain America was on board
>>83777563
>he mad
telling people to respond to every point made in several multi-paragraph posts in a thread isn't winning an argument. It's winning a battle of autistic patience. Stay mad.
>>83777656
>50% responsible for the events of AoU
>helped make a dangerous weapons dealer a billionaire
>unleashed the Hulk on civilians
I guess what I'm trying to say is Stark's concerns for her safety outside of the Avengers compound aren't terribly unfounded, even taking the events of Nigeria out of the picture...
>>83777667
they were still looking for the quinjet. I assumed they simply wanted to use the helicopter to cross the huge airfield.
>>83777689
and distance?
and refueling?
and crossing the russian border?
This is not shit you try to do in a commercial helicopter
>>83777476
>We have no indication the goodwill goes both ways.
Everything about Tony in that scene shows that it does. His face, his picking up the phone.
And what is the Tony-Steve dynamic when he says he'd put Ross on hold? Tony going to help out Steve. That they'd use the hold thing at the end makes the situation pretty clear. Tony asks Ross for permission to go to the airport, to bring Rogers in. Tony lies to and fucks with Ross when he's working with Steve. Why reuse the hold thing if it meant nothing?
And Rhodey's scene tells you that team Stark doesn't resent Tony, and then Cap's letter tells you that he doesn't resent Stark either. Rhodey says he'd still do it all again, and that's fine because Rhodey never did anything except enforce the law. Why would Rhodey regret anything and how does him still thinking he did right affect the dynamic of Tony and Steve's willingness to cooperate?
>>83777479
>I'm ignoring your point about how the editing answers the question because I want to stop at the question
Address Steve's apology and Tony taking the phone anon, specifically how that comes right after the Zemo scene. You haven't addressed anything I said, your only response to it is "No, Zemo asks his question so therefore the rest of the footage after it doesn't matter lalalala." It's apparently worth your time to keep posting that you disagree and about how stupid or contrarian I am, but it's not worth your time to actually articulate why you're correct in response to my points.
And stop posturing, it makes you look like an asshole. You can disagree with someone without them having to be stupider than you. It's not just that you're right in your mind, anyone that thinks there might be more to the situation is stupid. You're saying that thinking beyond the superficial dialogue is a sign of stupidity. Bizarre.
What about my posts have been contrarian at all? Your /tv/ is showing.
>>83777759
What makes you think Hawkeye's helicopter was a commercial helicopter? He got all the way from New York to San Francisco to Germany without being caught, didn't he?
>>83777692
>u mad u mad
>you made too many good points, therefore I don't have to respond to them
>calling a post that's not even 200 words too long to respond to
So anyone that puts more effort into their posts than you is too autistic and anyone that goes beyond the superficial level you stop at is stupider than you. I'm just impressed at this point.
>>83777773
Putting Ross on hold has nothing to do with how he feels about Steve and everything to do with how he feels about Ross. We know what happened in Siberia doesn't change his opinion on Ross (why would it?)
>how does him still thinking he did right affect the dynamic of Tony and Steve's willingness to cooperate?
Do you not know how to read? I said even if Tony was willing to work with Steve again, Rhodey probably wouldn't be.
>>83777921
>Putting Ross on hold has nothing to do with how he feels about Steve and everything to do with how he feels about Ross.
I disagree entirely. How Tony interacts with Ross is based entirely on how he feels about Steve at that current moment.
>pls Ross senpai, let me bring him in, I'll be your bitch!
vs
>I'm totally not lying to your face about where I'm going or what Falcon said
Tony being a stressed out government goon is the attitude when he's in opposition to Cap. Tony acting like he does in the rest of the MCU in CW is when he's working with/going to help Cap.
>Do you not know how to read?
I asked the question to point out that Stark and Steve's relationship isn't influenced by Rhodey, but instead of even allowing for the idea of a question to work like that you jumped to "oh anon is an idiot that can't understand what I'm saying."
The next time you think someone is missing something obvious to you, maybe you're the one missing something.
Rhodey isn't in charge of dick, him being salty or not doesn't really affect if Zemo accomplished his mission. Every Avengers movie has in-fighting and some characters not liking others, so saying some of that is present at the end of CW isn't really relevant.
>>83778087
>I disagree entirely. How Tony interacts with Ross is based entirely on how he feels about Steve at that current moment.
He decided not to work with Ross anymore when Ross refused to look at the evidence He had on Zemo. Finding out that Cap had a point didn't change his opinion on Ross. Ross's reaction to the evidence did.
>I asked the question to point out that Stark and Steve's relationship isn't influenced by Rhodey
So your intent was to point out something everyone knows in order to make a point that no one missed. Ok.
>>83778235
How Tony behaves towards Ross is SYMBOLIC of how Tony feels towards Captain America at any specific point.
Jesus Christ. This is why I had to point out shit with the other question before, because you are missing points I'm trying to make.
>>83778367
>How Tony behaves towards Ross is SYMBOLIC of how Tony feels towards Captain America at any specific point.
>finds evidence that Cap was right about Zemo
>immediately goes to Ross-senpai and tries to tell him about it
You're fucking wrong dude. You are factually wrong so now you're trying to pass it off as symbolism. His opinion on Cap changed and yet he continued trying to cooperate with Ross until he realized that Ross wasn't going to cooperate.
>>83777719
Who's going to go for her anyway.
>>83778423
>You are factually wrong so now you're trying to pass it off as symbolism.
You're "factually wrong" about what you say I'm doing. I've been talking about it being symbolic from the beginning, Tony's mood towards Ross is indicative of how he feels about Steve. I just had to spell it out for you that it was symbolic then because, like I said, you were missing that.
I think you're forgetting it's a movie and symbolism is big in those, as well as comics.
But none of that is even the damn point because the discussion is about Zemo succeeding or failing in his mission. Now it's like you're having a nitpick war about one tiny facet of my argument like it's the end all, be all of my stance. Tony reads the letter, smiles, and picks up the phone. That scene comes after Zemo's question. Basic movie making 101 tells you that Zemo failed.
>>83777719
I was under the impression he wanted Steve to go talk to her about the situation because his relationship with her is dysfunctional and broken. That's why he told Steve, it was like, "Okay cool, Bucky situation is resolved...so could you go talk this through with Wanda?"
She's everything Tony doesn't understand, in one package.
They were civil around each other but have nothing in common (something which Dan Abnet showed in Force Works); and while Tony is an insider, an extrovert, she only really connects with outsiders and wasn't confident enough to express herself in the group discussion.
Even in the best case scenario of not feeling resentful, Wanda will feel that avoiding Tony is the best option for everyone.
Clint, Wanda, and Rhodey are a bigger problem in terms of team unity than Steve or Tony.
>>83775056
It's an anti-quip.
>>83779139
>Tony's mood towards Ross is indicative of how he feels about Steve
>finds evidence that Cap was right about Zemo
>immediately goes to Ross-senpai and tries to tell him about it
You're wrong even in a symbolic sense. Saying movies have symbolism doesn't give you carte blanche to just make up whatever you want.
>because, like I said, you were missing that
I "missed it" because it's not really there and you're making shit up to try and support a point that, as you said, isn't even that crucial.
>>83753838
I agree. Competition implies there is a chance for both of them to win. DC won't get anywhere until they actually hire some fucking directors that WANT to make capeshit movies. Snyder quite clearly is in this solely for the absolutely fucking massive paycheck.
Can you blame him? I mean, if Hollywood walked up to you and said "Here's $100,000,000 to make the new Twilight film." would you turn them down, regardless of whether you wanted to make it or not?
>>83754028
Let's face facts, the only reason Deadpool didn't beat BvS is because Deadpool was an 18, meaning that the 13> crowd couldn't get in to see it.
>>83779709
it's astonishing that it's that close tbqh
>>83754164
Because Disney knows how to pander to the big audiences
>Furfags?
Check
>Capeshit lovers
Check
>Deadpool Meme spammers
Check
>>83779761
>capeshit
/tv/ pls go
>>83779761
>Deadpool
>Marvel
>>83779709
Are age restrictions that important in the US?
>>83779914
I was talking as a UK citizen. Any kid over 14 here can easily get passed the guys that work in the cinema.
>>83779914
Those figures are international. I saw kids younger than 5 watching Deadpool so it's not particularly restrictive, but it does limit the audience pool and negatively affects the total gross anywhere.
>>83779914
>>83779709
Deadpool beat BvS domestically. The reason it didn't internationally is that it wasn't released in China.
>>83779653
>Can you blame him? I mean, if Hollywood walked up to you and said "Here's $100,000,000 to make the new Twilight film." would you turn them down, regardless of whether you wanted to make it or not?
I'm certain that's what they did with Condon for that final Twilight movie. Mostly cause he added that 1 hour fight scene in the middle of it that might have been the only entertaining part of the whole series
>>83754204
THANK YOU BASED RUSSOS
>>83753473
jesus fuck neo/co/ is real.
>>83754204
THANK YOU BASED RUSSOS
>>83780516
kys
>>83779653
Intelligent, open-minded directors look for the best aspects of the source material and explore those aspects.
Hack directors don't give a fuck, and just regard it as stupid dumb shit and make no effort.
Ironically when critics deride genres they are adopting the very attitude that leads to so much shit coming out of the movie business.
>>83779709
Yeah, Deadpool's thing was amazing.
>>83754204
THANK YOU BASED RUSSOS
>>83780516
You realize original /co/ was super-feminist and loved all superhero movies, right?
>>83755246
>>83755225
MCU Zemo is more of an avenger than the actual Avengers, because Zemo actually avenged someone.
None of the Avengers have actually avenged anyone. Even Tony couldn't avenge his loved ones.
>>83787052
they avenged Coulson you retard
yo
Captain America: Civil War is going to be as much praised as Empire Strikes Back thirty years from now, and well deseverdly so. Truly a masterpiece, the best film that this genre has produced so far.
>>83789760
Agreed.
>>83787052
The Avengers and Defenders should swap names
>>83787052
i'll avenge your mom m8
>>83779709
>>83780203
It could have beat Civil war too.
Cant believe how badly Civil war underperformed.
>>83789760
Lol kys
>>83791521
Is on it's way to make 1.2 billion with the name ''Captain America'' on the title.
It did fine, and there's no way Deadpool would have done more than a billion.
>>83789760
It's not even the best Captain America movie.
It is the best Avengers movie though.
>>83792002
This.
Not the sequel I expected after TWS, but i'm hopeful for Infinity War.
>>83787052
But his avenging is due to personal matters.
>>83753217
guud
>>83753294
/thread
>>83777816
I could actually buy this to some extent. The chopper he used was probably a similar kind to what Tony used to go to the raft. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a few of em at the Avengers compound.
>>83795538
>father cringes as his autistic son shows them his gf
>>83795591
>Autistic son brings home a solid 8/10 cutie home
>cringe
Why?
>>83795648
Because of his autism. He probably makes everything awkward as she just remains there silently.
>>83795648
>10/10
Fixed.
>>83775056
>>83775203
What he said m8, it's an anti-quip.
>>83795780
In all fairness, she kinda is a 8/10.But to me she's perfect.
>>83796159
>perfect
That's the keyword.<3
>>83796567
Indeed.
>>83796704
>>83796567
>tfw the twins probably bullied her constantly
>>83797055
Fuck you, dubs.
>YWN cuddle her and make her feel better after the twins just sang B-U-T-T-out in her face
>>83797261
>>83797055
The twins are now too focused on just not dying.
>>83756882
post yfw cap grabs mjolnir and it gives him scaled armor and Mercury wings on his helmet
>>83797261
>YWN cuddle her;_______________________;
>>83797457
I've never been a fan of the scale suit. Always looked ugly to me.
The Sokovia accords are a largely unneeded plot device that takes up too much time. The schism between the team could have been entirely Bucky.
There aren't even any consequences as a result of Iron Man signing because he can just fuck off and do whatever he wants at the end anyway.
>>83797590
fair enough, personally i think it would be a nice departure from the realistic military style suits he wears and go full comicbook with it
>>83797680
>personally i think it would be a nice departure from the realistic military style suits he wears
But I like that.
>and go full comicbook with it
We got that in the first Cap movie. It was treated as a joke cause' anything that would be 100% full comicbook would be silly.
Also this cause' whatever the context, it's still great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uTh4VE30fw
>>83797533
>YWN cuddle her
I'm working on that.
>>83797831
Good luck with that, Vision.
Just try not to put her in a straight jacket next time.
>>83797916
Who knows, maybe she's into that kind of thing.
>>83798044
> Scarlet Switch.
>>83798700
>yet another slut
>>83799054
No, she's pure!
>>83799636
>dat lip bite
You just KNOW.
>>83799671
Wanda is pure, PURE!
She's a nice girl.
>>83799799
>barefoot
>skirt dress
>slav, so no underwear
>basically presenting herself to anyone who enters the room
>>83799799
>demeyes
>>83799847
Wanda is for cuddling.
>>83799847
>>basically presenting herself to anyone who enters the room
She's not facing the door.
>>83799868
One could loose themselves in her eyes.
>>83800091
>Wanda will never brainwash you bymaking you look into her eyes for 1 minute straight
Well, thread's about to get archived.Wanda best girl and best waifu.
>>83800328
One day, anon. Mayhaps one day.
>>83800621
Truth.
