what would happen if Disney accepted the previous script, the one with the shock collars?
A lot more fetish art, it would have been too dark to be successful, the racial tones might have crossed into preachy territory.
>>83745643
Are you saying zootopia isn"t preachy ?
>>83745672
A tiny bit, but not enough to dissuade most people from enjoying it.
Here's for the anon who requested a drawing of Nick as Big Boss.I don't even play this game tbqh.
>>83745574
Didn't Pixar gave the boot on the previous script?
>>83745753
no, test audience/Disney execs
Byron worked very hard to make the fox the protagonist.
Nothing. It's a movie and people would have gone on with their lives.
Probably won't have done as well though, nor be as popular.
>>83745643 this too
and it would given tumblr and feminism new ideas of how to deal with people they don't like, because they get all of their ideas from the worst possible places.
Remember when Key & Peele's 'Negrotown' sketch came out, and a whole bunch of tumblr thought that giving blacks their own town would be a Utopia? Then we pointed out that segregation and Detroit had proved this wrong, and the general response was 'that's different'.
>>83745574
The script was accepted and they started doing some animations and voice recordings before they gave it a rewrite.
Good night, thread.I hope the anon who asked for >>83745728 sees it once I wake up.
>>83745887
that would explain these scenes.
>>83745574
Mass Suicides due to it being depressing as fuck.
>>83745914
so, what stopped them?
even toy prototypes.which ruined judy's fig for me
Okay assholes post your fursonas.
Hey what happened to the last thread?
>>83745932
it couldn't be THAT bad, it's disney!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mKszSoBfZA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLVYkYHYB0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R52eO6_666E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iznhXtYfT3o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lokL0I1ak18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZpzVqL66Qo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm0OMeuI0YA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vegYwahTFJk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hiu3qJi0aPY
>>83746046waifufaggin subject, made janny angry
>>83745932
It couldn't be that depressing but I gotta admit the taming party is pretty fucked up desu.
>>83745771
Ironically the preds were kicked from the position of protagonist as well.
Know your place pred-male scum!
>>83746110
according to the documtary they are very proud of it, even added storyboard version to the bluray.
>>83746165
BRYOOOONNNNN
>>83745574
It'd probably be like that Zistopia comic.
>>83745936
focus testing, audiences didn't like it, wanted nick and judy to leave the city instead of saving it
>>83746110
The what?
>>83746213
gee, i wonder how nosy kids will react to it.I wanted to bleach my eyes
>>83746165
I wannabop_that fox
>>83746250
go to 26:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hiu3qJ
>>83745574
>what would happen if Disney accepted the previous script, the one with the shock collars?+ 0 post omitted.
Then the Zooptopia general faggots wouldn't able to deny that the movie is really an analogy for black/white racial dynamics in America
It's already dead obvious
>>83746058
>7:07
There is Judy, My Best Friend that i have shard some.....intimate moments with
>intimate moments
>Intimate Moments
>INTIMATE MOMENTS
JudyxNick confirmed, everyone go home.
They're perfect the way they are
>>83746272
Most likely, they couldn't probably grasp the concept of protozoo but scenes like the taming party might give them a hint on how oppressed the predators were and fucked up the system is.
Other than that, if the film has been executed the same way as the final version then I'm pretty sure it's gonna keep their eyes glued to the movie anyway.
>>83746354
Which video?
>>83746305
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hiu3qJ
Video does not exist
>>83746409
1st one.
>>83746430
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hiu3qJi0aPY
my bad. it's the last one from the list.
26 minute
>>83746354
Hate to break it to you friend but it's just a fanfic based off a deleted scene.
>>83746250
It's a deleted scene back in protozoo. Copy pasta from the wikia because I'm too lazy to write it down myself.
>Judy Hopps and Nick Wilde watch Morris's taming party as his father Koslov presents him with his tame collar. As his collar is put on, Morris is applauded by his peers, with a saddened Koslov looking on. As Morris becomes increasingly excited, he gets his first shock from the collar, and looks back worriedly towards his father.
It's better off watching the scene itself, which is a fully voiced storyboard, when it was up in Youtube before Disney removed it.
I think you can still find it somewhere floating around online though.
>>83746324
it's about general prejudice my dear /pol/lack. how DARE someone make a commentary on a widespread phenomena
That was a scary hour. Glad to be back lads.
>>83745574
Film probably wouldn't have done as well. Would want that city to burn after what the prey did.
>>83745574
>Pangolin
Neat.
>>83746588
It's about a minority group that makes up roughly 1/10 of the population and who are thought to be more violent and criminal than the majority.
One character grew up in such an environment and instead of following his dreams, he becomes a criminal because that's what people expect of him.
It turns out that a lot of this perceived violence is due to the majority group giving drugs to the minorities so that they act even more violent, that way the majority can be justified in their prejudices.
Come on man, don't be dense
>>83746640
But he's thickheaded, hes supposed to be dense.
>>83746640
I live in a ghetto and know multiple drug dealers.
that narrative is nowhere close to reality.
a lot of black people live in shit situations, some make the best of it, some wallow in it, and some are basically worthless human beings.
But I've yet to meet the junkie who had drugs forced on him. the narrative you're pushing here is literally 'din' do' and completely ignores free will. the simple fact is blacks commit more crime than whites. they have reasons for that but it's not an excuse.
>>83746736
No good reason for gang raping children man.
>>83746736
Have you ever watched Boyz in the Hood?
That's literally the explanation that they give for black violence.
It's a very common explanation for why black people have higher rates of violence.
>>83746736
>they have reasons for that but it's not an excuse.
The world exists in a state of what is, not what ought to be. If you insist on the latter, we can never improve anyone's situation.
>>83746800
But Anon...
>>83746893
FUCK!!!
http://jalopnik.com/how-disney-s-zootopia-got-its-cars-from-legendary-car-d-1762567392i wish they made meter maid toy car with working lights
>>83746893
I never get the chance to use this .gif and the one time I can someone else beat me too it! Fuck.
>>83746305
>>83746569
>>83746953
yup, this probably traumatized the animators.
>>83746771
He said black, not Indian.
So I'm guessing Judy would have treated him like shit in the original script?
>>83746736
Nobody's forced to use drugs, but people will resort to drugs to escape a shit sandwich life. Some people overcome it and some people can't. I can tell you that it's easier to do well and live well in an environment that provides viable options for a self-sustained life than to live in one where one has little in terms of options or viable means of advancement.
>>83745574
The movie would have been a lot more black & white and the message about prejudice wouldn't have worked as well.
>>83745936
It became impossible for the audiences to get behind the heroes motivations, because they just wanted the whole city to burn instead of trying to save it.
>>83747176
well, he's a filthy je... i mean pred.
>>83747035
PoCs are PoCs, you cis-oppressor.
>>83745574
I like how dark the idea is but I think it could've easily felt too dark for the sake of dark.
Also the collar makes it sorta harder to connect it with real-world situations, making the world of the film seem more like a general dystopia, which could be seen as a positive by some but probably would've given the movie less of an impact.
>>83747208
then why there was so much footage done?
>>83747183
To me, I don't see why it matters that some black people *can* escape the ghetto, but that as it currently stands, ALL black people can't. If people are okay with a slow trickle of upward mobility, then in 200 years, blacks will probably be out of the ghetto. But I believe it's understandable that people want it to happen faster than that.
>>83747235
So they had something to show them?
>>83745771
Good, that will teach autist, that enslavement is retarded concept.
Night thread. Going to think of the bun before going to sleep as the other anon said. Will report back with results when I wake up!
>>83747650
>he told the crew to not call the bunny judy because fox and only fox
>he himself almost never calls her by first name, even during key scenes of the final version (source: fusion documentary)
this is the reason why i dread for the sequel if he's gonna work on it.
>>83746463
>3:00
>me and bryon just really love furry movies cause we're furries
>>83747820
>bryon
i'll start copying that, i don't trust anyone who makes up a character just to make him suffer.
>>83747788
Seriously? Holy shit, he really is humongous faggot. Good thing that Rich will stop him again.
>>83747893
are you sure?
>>83746623
A Pangolin is Judy's landlord in the final version.
how many of Byron's "personal" touches do you think he implemented in the final film?
>>83748116
we dont really want to know.
>>83745574
It would not have worked as a disney movie. As much as I like proto-zootopia, it probably would have been to dark. Thankfully, we have fan comics like Zistopia to fill that void
>>83746937
they hired former director of design of Ford Motors to design their cars.
They even accounted for the centrifugal force for giraffe cars, which is why the tower sways on the base to soften the turns.
>>83748477
man i'd love some zootopia figures with these wacky vehicles.
>>83748520
>>83748536
>>83748542
love tutorials, thanks!
I'll contribute
ae there any finnick tutorials?
>>83748639
>Nick
>head smaller
>ears larger
done
>>83748639
>draw some circles
>draw the rest of the motherfucking Finnick
it's not ideal, but I managed to do a quick doodle using that, so it's not too bad I guess.
http://www.drawingtutorials101.com/how-to-draw-finnick-from-zootopia
>>83748520
>>83748536
>>83748542
>>83748574
>>83748600
>>83748610
Groovy.
>>83748702
I have more if you're interested, anon. Also, if you're learning, feel free to show what you've got.
>>83748719
>>83748747
>>83748757
I actually haven't drawn anything for at least half a year now, but please feel free to post more of 'em!
>>83748795
only if you doodle something first and post it here.
>>83745574
We would basically go from a story promoting acceptance of all species to a story promoting segregation.
Which, considering it's Disney, isn't all that strange it didn't happen.
>>83748869
...You're putting me on the spot here, but I'll try.
All these reference mats, I love it!
>>83745574
The problem with the shock collars is that it's needlessly oppressive, dark, and creates a world that nobody wants to live in.
>>83748995
my money is this is one of the "hehe, I can't draw" people who then post disney-grade fanart situations.
So can we ever find the plant that turns aspiring rappers into raving niggers irl?
goodnight, thread.
>>83749103
PCP?
>>83748995
Pretty much. It's just so nasty that you can't really sympathise with the prey at all
>>83749172
Dream of bune
>>83748869
>>83748911
How'd I do?
>>83749200
A pretty good start. Not sure why that happens though, the only time I smoked it I was super chill. Maybe it does only work on nigs
>>83748037
Nope, it's an armadillo. The hotel is called the pangolin arms, though.
>>83749322
Good! Tutorials are yours
also, always sign your doodles
they really needed Moore to get themselves out of that hole, "original jumbo hustle" felt more like a test video than a scene from movie
>>83749376
Dont worry, I signed mine
>>83749456
>now in HD
you might laugh, but itis important to sign your things no matter what.
Hey, never been in here since the Blu Ray got leaked, the end of the term killed me, I missed these threads. Hopefully I'll have more time now.
Did I miss anything that important? I've hear the movie hit past 1 billion, but did the the actual blu ray released and was there any content on it that the leak didn't have?
Also, thank you, anon who has been posting those tutorials. Maybe it'll push me to draw for the first time in years
>>83749494
how about a quick doodle now? You certainly have 15 minutes to spare, don't you?
>>83749376
>>83749456
Just for you!
>>83745898
That's a cute picture, anon
I almost wrote mijo instead of anon
>>83749572
friggin A, anon
>>83749662
source?
>>83749535
I actually posted that right before I was getting ready to leave. I promise I'll draw a thing when I get home
more tutorials
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqV63qRFoUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GymbbhOBjDM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H2zA-m1sPQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IRNDar3CLk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6P7lx7nDI4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaNsta2zeeE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqD2KFPvjhc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvJTQWe35rI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1bYcFVV80E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1prIkKzOws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEg5FdEBVBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhUdnU_axcA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVfDHeGyxlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQC0km8qC64
>>83745936
The focus groups weren't just speaking as audience members but business people and Disney people. The movie wasn't smart to market as the world that was being built was hard to like. Any solution didn't excuse the prey's actions against the predators, which would have been the point. It would have been an uncomfortable movie with an uncomfortable moral that really should be mostly set aside and the audience should just appreciate the unique "racial" dynamic in Zootopia and see their problems as like ours but worse in their own special way. The relationship between Nick and Judy was suppose to show us that the town wasn't beyond saving, just that it would take time. That doesn't make for a very good Disney ending.
is it finally over?
>>83751215
Never.
watch yesterday, good movie and yeah theres much momments , opportunity missing here.
but they dont need to strictly follow the original idea, they could make something between the dark and the actuall movie.
any news about a sequel?
>>83745984
fuck off
>>83747788
>>83747893
>this shit again
>Byron Howard on Hopp's apartment: "And one of the things that I personally miss the most about this particular scene is that there are these great jokes in there with Hopps’ dad Stu… and Stu was really uncomfortable with the fact that his daughter Judy might be dating this fox (Nick)."
He ships Judy and Nick as much as the next person, so its obvious he didnt hate her
>>83752203
I liked this moment. They did "dad being awkward" perfectly.
What happened with the last thread that got deleted? Did the hotpockets just get bored?
>>83752383
It also gave light to the idea that inter species relationships do apparently exist in zootopia
>>83752529
oh yeah, but it's established canon. It just appears in Zootopia foxes are considered to be LITERALLY THE WORST, hence the controversy.
>>83752592
I thought that was just among rabbits?
I mean Foxes are pretty small compared to other predators
Byron's pro-Nick faggotry is almost unbearable. His original plot stunk, and the movie would've tanked.
Maybe a darker movie would've been a bit more entertaining, but by making it so black and white, the story would've become more boring, and harder to like Zootopia, and Prey.
Everyone would've thought Nick should've just left Zootopia, or burn it down.
It's a mess that should've never been made, and I'm glad it wasn't.
doodled some lardasses if anyone cares
l8r
>>83752845
>>83749091 called it
Looks great! You must've been drawing for quite a while.
>>83752845
You're pretty good!
>>83752895
thanks, i've been drawing on an off for years but i've been taking it a bit more seriously lately
>>83747712
>Gideons pies are made from rabbits.
>>83753484
Population control
>>83753692
>mouse criminal
That looks like a furret
what do you love about Nick the most?
Zootopia Discord
https://discord.gg/0ws5bqe0Ne0g8TNG
>>83753997
If I join this and everyone is a furry I'm leaving
>>83754111
You're already a furry, Anon. Come out of the closet already.
>>83754111
You're posting in a Zootopia thread, nerd.
>>83754153
>>83754176
I just like the movie and the fanfiction, I swear
>>83754685
We're in the minorty, anon
>>83754685
>I just like the movie and the fanfiction
>I swear
Stage one: Denial
>>83754111
>>83754153
What if you are exclusive to this movie though?
I don't like anything furry anywhere else
I come bearing gifts
>>83755100
ohnohe'shot.jpg
Will jack turn out to be a asshole?
Cause I hate that shitty trope
>>83755193
No there will be a threesome.
that's all there is for now.
>>83755280
>that's all there is for now.
It's always when I get into something that it turns out that "That's it"
This is why I stopped doing webcomics
>>83755334
To be fair this is more than what we usually get (one page per update) and with good art too
>>83755055
>"WAAAH!"
>dropped that weeb shit.
>>83755000
Come on don't say things like that
>>83755816
That's not a fox, that's an abomination. kill it.
>>83755816
Kill the hybrid.
>>83755280
Fascinating.
Ever wonder why Jack has stripes on his face?
>>83756086
Yes?
>>83756125
picture got dropped.
>>83756163
It is clearly the offspring of interspecies coupling and is, therefore, an offense to god and must be cleansed.
What is this expression trying to convey?
>>83756351
>content, satisfaction, serenity, peace, feeling of being secure and trustedwouldn't be a shame if something happened to it
>>83756351
content
what is this expression trying to convey?
>>83756401
>getting some tail tonight
>>83756351
content while looking at his free ticket to bun buns only to be crushed less than a minute later
>>83756401
smug
>>83755168
Oh fug
>>83755816
REMOVE THHE HYBRID
>>83745728
It's cute Dood. Btw I don't know who would be Snake, but Judy would be the boss for sure.
>>83757099
Thanks fampai, literally just woke up.
Good morning, thread.
>>83747217
Thank god the removed that tuff of hair. It looks out of place.
>>83757213
>I see this anon going to bed
>I'm still in these threads when he wakes up
uh oh
>>83747879
Wait, is this picture real? I have never seen a single canine do this. Ever.
I'm a guy and I wanna plow Nick... Please help.
>>83757339
I just want tospoonhim
>>83755816
Hybrid fanart never fails to trigger me.
>>83757263
I kinda wish they'd left it in. It makes Judy look unique and drives home that not-like-other-bunnies part of her character.
>>83757446
damn, is it strange I didn't notice the hybrid, only Hopps and Nick? I mean, I failed to comprehend why people are calling Nick a hybrid and decided everyone is trolling.
>>83757263
you'd probably love it if it was in the movie and pointed fingers on "stupid hairless Judy". Perhaps you're doing this right now somewhere in an alternative universe.
>>83757482
Not him but there's just something off about it.
Gotta admit it's pretty cute but tuffless Judy is still best Judy.
>>83757506
>>83757482
The issue is that other animals don't have some out of place hair or horns. Bipedalism aside, they are very much the animals they are supposed to be, and I know no species of bunny to have something like that.
Sure, it might have made sure she looked different, but at that point you are going to 80's animal cartoons rather than "otter that when bestial acts and looks just like an otter".
>>83757368
Nick looks kind of turned on..
>>83757291
It's a shop. Take a real close look at the top half of the tower compared to the bottom
>>83753997
Are people active in this?
http://rem289.tumblr.com/post/145879266882/black-jack-i-encounter-jack-is-the-only
Interesting...
>>83758519
At first I read that as Jack Black
I need sleep
>>83756351
Wow, there's hope for me after all!
>it's gonna last
>>83757291
>>83757624
original
>>83745753
Pixar was consulted on what was causing the script to bomb with test audiences.
They didn't kill it, just pointed out the problems with the story
Basically the original script made Zootopia out to be an awful racist place so there was no motivation to see it saved. Nick's life was depressing and the resolution to saving the city didn't do enough to fix it.
>>83753861
smug
>>83758641
Every fucking day. Every single fucking day when i come home this little faggot just sits there and gives me this stupid look on his face. What should i do about him? Ideas?
>>83758679
Fox taser.
>>83758679
Destroy his dreams. Take all that trust he has put in you, all that hope, that smile... and break it like a fine vase.
>>83749337
>pangolin arms
Sounds like a gun company
>>83753692
>>83753781
last breaths of the franchise.
>>83758625
but it was so deep and well thought!
>>83745574
>Nobody has pointed out the hippos in this image.
Or, for that matter, the skunk or the boar (both predators.)
Fuckin' hippos, though, man.
>>83760361
that idea had hypocrisy written all over the place
>tfw no Nick to cuddle
$338,198,507 after 101 days.
>>83755193
Nick is the one being a asshole considering jack hasn't done anything
>>83760802get a plush then
>>83761076
are plushes 4 ft tall andable to whisper sweet moans in your ear?
>>83759209
>Zootopia 2
JudyxNick discovers and intercepts an illegal firearm sale and the guns are PAW (Pangolin Arms Weaponry)
Turns out that under judy's apartment building there is a weapon factory and a plot to start a gang war between mr big and another mafia, and PAW supplies the weapons to both sides for the gang war
I would like to ask a decent artist to make short comic page where Judy asks Finnick for help, basically I want the "95% ears" and "ONE hug" to be fan-canon, it just needs to be done in a smart way
POST FINNICK
>>83762185
hmmm
na
>>83762232
yes!
>>83762185
>>83762399
>later
>>83762564
sleepy finnick is the best finnick
>>83762616
agreed
Didn't dream of Judy. Another wasted night..
>>83762564
source?
>>83763472
reverse image search
https://youtu.be/JOIjmLw0iQc?t=2m46s
>get it because she's a bunny cop but she's hot too
kekaroo
>>83763655
>reverse image search
No results
>>83763947
dunno then
>>83762971
Does anyone have any actual advice of controlling or remembering dreams?
>>83764057
I hope somebody does... Would be pretty amazing to be create my own Zoot universe every night
>>83764354
>colour
javascript:quote('83764057');
Bryon:
>collars
>I love collars
>dear Rich, I'm so alone
>>83764377
It's our time now, Yank
>>83764382
... kinky.
>>83764089
>inb4 tulpas
>>83761223
4ft plush when
>>83747208
>wanted the whole city to burn
LIGHT UP THE NIGHT
>>83755168
Is this that fucken Garfield comic
