Why was this bullshit allowed to be published?
>>83586925
aww OP doesn't like when characters openly question god, get the fuck over it. This is a realistic coping mechanism, when you lose someone you care about. Regardless of the truth behind it.
>>83586925
Wow, I can't believe someone who's parent just died is having irrational thoughts. Especially considering he later spends the rest of his life blaming himself for his uncle's death, which even other characters say that his guilt complex makes no sense.
this is why Peter hates Thor? oh, wait. Peter doesn't blame anyone but himself for Ben's death
>>83587068
have you seen >>83587051?
i've seen mangas with better drawings than that.
>>83586925
>You let him die
I mean, it was kinda on you, but whatever.
I mean, I think we can all agree that Peter actually is responsible for Ben's death. That's not really debatable. He should feel as bad as he does.
>>83587051
>UNSOLICITED OPINIONS ON THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL
>>83587110
>>83586925
Wait, wasn't he already stone dead when the cops showed up?
What is this nonsense.
GOD I FUCKING HATE IT WHEN CHARACTERS HAVE DEVELOPMENT TOO! FUCKING SHIT!The funny and ironic part of this being is that during this entire arch is about Peter questioning if there is a God and might actually be coming around to it.But too bad OP doesn't read comics and doesn't know that.
>>83587051
Smiling Christ has no fucks to give.
Oh, so this is why he was so eager to sell his unborn daughter to Satan.
>>83587051
>Eh. What'cha gonna do, right?
>>83587213
Reading takes too long and makes it harder to shitpost.
Kinda odd question to be asking since he actually met the fellow.
Looked a bit like Iggy Pop.
>>83587164
Better.
>people still think Peter is a hero
SpOck was the Spider we needed.
>>83587318
Spock was "fuck being a guilty sad sack, I've got shit to do."
Is this why Spider-Man became a satanist?
>>83587361
It's why Mephisto was on speed dial.
>>83586925
I expect nothing less from a satanist
>>83587417
Hey now.
He also worships spider totems.
>>83586925
Why do people keep forgetting Peter was pretty strong in his faith in God
Even JMS made it a positive thing and he's an athiest
>>83587452
Insecurity.
>>83587452
Most comic book writers are. Ironically it was Millar, an atheist, who really started the whole focus on Daredevil's Catholicism.
>>83587452
Selling his soul to Mephisto
>>83587288
/co/ in a nutshell.
>>83586925
What is this from? Slott's run?
>>83586925
To be fair, it makes sense for Peter to think that.
Great power, great responsibility and all that.
If you have the power to help someone, you MUST do it.
This entire story is about Catholicism and how Peter should rely more on faith and not even in a negative way. Read the comics before you come here to shitpost.
>>83587604
A lot of religious people come to grips with the fact that they can't understand why things like that happen. It's beyond their comprehension as humans.
>>83587612
So how does it play out?
>>83587653
Sure, but that's not very Spider-man
>>83587452
>Why do people keep forgetting Peter was pretty strong in his faith in God
It makes sense in DC where the Abraham God is actually in charge. In the Marvel multiverse to do the same is a sign that you are irrational and ignore the presence of One-Above-All.
>>83587068
Aww, looksy an atheist fag getting worked up because someone pointed out lazy faggotry writing but he can only see religion like all good atheists.
>>83587689
But isn't Spiderman basically Lot?
What's God's power level in the Marvel universe?
>>83587790
Only in the sense that he keeps trying to be good despite the universe shitting on him.
Lot does good because he has faith that God has a plan.
Peter does good because it's his responsibility.
>>83587677
It's still going on. Sparknotes version basically being
>Man who died in Harlem comes back after being dead for three days.
>Ends up preforming a bunch of miracles.
>Peter thinks this is a trick because he thinks there's no way God could be real.
>Group of Catholic super heroes are explaining to him it's a miracle
>Doesn't buy it.
>Ana Maria tries to get him to see that miracles can be true.
>Still doesn't buy it.
>He goes to Beast and tries to get him to analyze the blood
>Turns out he's not human
>Turns out he's actually a Satinist (or something) and is planning on luring people into a false sense of security.
>Peter is teaming up with the catholic heroes to stop him.
>Creepy witch doctor explains that he cannot win this fight without faith.
>>83587946
Wait, how does Peter not believe in God when he's literally met demons and devils before?
>>83588037
Probably thinks they're just super power races that claim to be gods. The funny thing is at one point someone does bring up how Thor's real and he doesn't have a come back for it.
>Why was this bullshit allowed to be published?
It's written by jews and published by jews, from a company owned by jews, what did you expect ?
>>83588119
I can get thinking Thor is just an alien who inspired Earth religions since Asgard is a real place that you can fly to and from in space.
But Hell is like another dimension.
It seems a lot more plausibly real.
Also, what's Doc Strange's view on Hell?
>>83588181
For people who read comics on a board for comics and cartoons, not just shitpost about the MCU.
>>83588199
Isn't Doc Strange religious? I mean, he had a hand in creating the literal God.
>>83587500
Miller, not Millar
>>83587789
....are you...proud of the way you are?
>>83588037
It's really hard to believe in a Catholic God when the first commandment basically says "I'm the only God" and you've literally met the God of Thunder.
>>83588427
>you've literally met an alien with delusions of Godhood
Can Thor hear prayers?
Like if someone thinks on Earth "Dear Thor, eat a dick" he hears it?
>>83588427
>>83586925
Said the cunt that sold his marriage to the devil and in the process made his life a living hell.
Fuck off, Peter. You are no hero anymore.
>>83588506
This is literally the plot of the book.
>>83588583
My hate for OMD really has no end
>>83588479
Yes.
>>83588479
yes he can.
>>83588345
to be fair depending on interpretation, there are other gods. they're just lesser and you may not worship them lest you be denied Yahwehs....whatever he was selling before he had a kid and started selling salvation
>>83588427
Don't have gods before him implicitly suggests that there are other gods who would come after him though
I don't think you've actually read the ten commandments
>>83588583
Don't forget his unborn child. I've never been able to read Spider-Man ever again. Knowing that he super-aborted his daughter for his 90 year old mother made me never touch another Spider book again.
>>83588640
So when Thor is chilling on Earth he's hearing all the prayers from all the 9 Realms and he's ignoring them?
That doesn't sound very worthy.
>>83588730
No one really worships him anymore.
>old person dies
>HOW DARE YOU GOD! NO ONE SHOULD EVER DIE! I AM ATHEIST NOW!
Wow. Great writing there.
>>83587452
Then why did he sell his soul to the devil?
>>83588720
I really hope whoever gets the book after Slott has May bite it of natural causes and Mephisto come and call Peter a stupid idiot
>>83588427
What's that comic where Thor meets with the dying priest and tries to reconcile the priest's faith? It was pretty good.
>>83588767
If he actually showed up to answer prayers, how would his religion ever fall off?
>>83588774
to be fair her was shot and he's 15. 15 year old son have become atheists over far less than their dad's death
>>83588774
Was Ben not killed by a mugger Peter failed to stop in the above panels?
Because when a good man dies unjustly... People blame god.
>>83588821
he was denied access to Earth for centuries
>This entire thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7cchb_F6Ps
>>83588876
Not the other realms though, right?
>>83588876
Really? Why? Do the elves and dwarves still revere Thor as a god?
>>83588906
why would other realms worship him? he was typically viewed as a peer or enemy. at the very least not worthy of worship
>>83588787
Quesada would never allow it. He is proud of OMD.
>>83588954
>at the very least not worthy of worship
Well if he answered prayers, then why not?
Like
>>83588640
>>83588918
they think he's just some asshole with a hammer
>>83587773
But Heaven's real. Ghost Rider's been there. There's all kinds of angels there.
>>83589069
didn't Ghost Rider kick all the angels' asses with all his Ghost Rider buddies
>>83588821
Go look up "The Reigning." Dan Juergens wrote it. Basically the reason Thor's not going around being a big religious figure is because the Avengers will punch Thor in the face if he answers prayers too much.
>>83587213
What?
But this is retarded.
Not only are they completely retconning where Uncle Ben died (he died outside the house, not in a hospital), but Peter blames himself. Not god. That's the entire point.
>>83589152
Thanks for the heads up.
Cap's probably just pissed that Thor is tempting people to break the First Commandment.
>>83589139
Maybe, but so what? Over in DC where Big Catholic God's dick is the biggest the Spectre, THE LITERAL WRATH OF GOD, gets pwned by Batman and told he's got no right judging the Jokester.
>>83589207
Basically. Tony Stark, with help from Doctor Doom and a magic crystal Thor gave Tony with the express understanding Tony would use this crystal to save humanity from reliance on fossil fuels, built a suit of Thorbuster armor to stop Thor from preventing genocide of an ethnic minority who prayed to Thor for help.
>>83589201
What the fuck do you care? You're not the one who reads the book, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion.
>>83589152
Can you elaborate? That sounds stupid. Why would Thor listen to what the avengers say? Why would they want Thor to not answer people's prayers and shit on their faith?
>>83589237
I'm just wondering if there are still all kinds of angels there
>>83589300
>stop Thor from preventing genocide of an ethnic minority who prayed to Thor for help.
And what genius reason did Tony have for this?
>>83589306
Because I love Spider-man. He's one of my favorite marvel characters. And seeing people just change things for the sake of a story, is retarded.
I want Spider-man to be good again.
>>83589379
He already sold his soul to the devil. Spider-Man hasn't been a hero for a decade.
>>83589379
>I want Spider-man to be good again.
You don't read the book. How does it effect you whether or not Spider-Man is good or not?
The X-eyes are killing me. I'm sure that wasn't the intent.
>>83589360
He was going to buy that land and build a sweet mansion on it.
>>83587830
It seem to be not responsibility to lose faith in drop of a hat.
>>83589510
That's literally Lex Luthor tier dickishness
>>83589559
Why do you have a responsibility to have faith?
>>83589308
Thor listens to the Avengers because he IS an Avenger, and they're his friends.
They want him to not do that because the New Norse religion is involved in wars.
>>83589611
Thor has a greater responsibility to his followers, imo
>>83589471
Fuck off Slott. You ain't getting any of my money.
>>83589471
Your argument makes no sense.
How can a bad story be good just because I don't read it?
That's like saying Waypool didn't matter because no one liked it. The very act of its existence is offensive.
>>83587946
Yup, that sounds retarded all right.
>>83589750
Right to the Slott meme. So that's proof, you honestly don't give a shit, you just want something to complain about. Another reason I know you don't read comics is the fact that Slott didn't write this book.
>>83589763
What matters is that he doesn't get an opinion on whether it's good or not because he's never read it, so there's no possible way he could know if it's good or not.
>>83589780
I do read comics. Ms. Marvel, The Vision and recently some DC stuff, just not Spider comics because I dislike Slott's writing and plots. I'm guessing this is from Spidey then? I don't read that one either because I'm not sure how it falls into canon and I don't care to read it.
>>83589772
Everything sounds retarded when it's taken out of context like that.
>It's about this kid who lives with his Aunt and Uncle.
>And he's kinda bullied at school
>He gets super upset that the cool kids don't wanna hang out with him and they drive away on their car.
>So he went into a science fair where they were testing a super science ray.
>A spider got caught in the ray and bit the kid so he got powers.
>He decided he wanted to make money so he went into entertainment after he made weapons that could shoot goo at people.
>One day someone is robbing the place so he let's them go.
>He comes home to find out that his Uncle has been shot.
>This causes him to realize he should be a super hero.
>>83589830
You realize reviews exist for a reason, right?
And I've seen this page, so I definitely don't think the rest of the comic will be worth reading.
I haven't read Patsy Walker Hellcat either, but I've seen a page from that book. And it looks atrocious. You telling me I should reserve my opinion until after I've read it?
>>83588427
there's great difference between the gods of different religions
e.g an omnipotent god and one who can get knocked out by mortal men
>>83586925
Because there hasn't been a new Spider-Man idea since 1987? Possibly since 1973?
>>83589842
It's from one of the point one issues.
I enjoyed the previous point one issues written by Conway, but these are garbage.
>>83589842
It's a point one series written by Jose Molina. He wrote a few episodes of Firefly, Clone Wars, Agent Carter, and Castle.
"Spider-Man questions God" was already done by a much better author before BONG.
>>83589896
Yeah, reviews exist for people to know if they would like or dislike something so they can decide whether to watch it or not. You know who shouldn't write reviews, people who haven't seen the product.
>>83588976
Because Thor was a huge dick for the majority of his life. Hence him not being worthy of mjolnir until spending decades living as a mortal on Earth to learn humility.
By the time Thor became a nice enough God to answer prayers that weren't just "help me rape and pillage" or "help me kill frost giants", everyone had stopped praying to him barring a tiny handful of crazies.
>>83590207
That actually makes sense.
Good exegesis.
>>83586925
I thought Peter was Jewish.
>>83590013
But I've read a review. I heard it was garbage, and I've now seen the page. So it's garbage.
>>83590348
>I've seen one page, therefore it's garbage.
>>83589600
Having faith is itself responsible.
>>83586925
But /co/ kept telling me Peter was an evil Jew.
>>83589360
This was when he was Secretary of Defense or something at the time. Apparently it would have started WW3.
>>83589069
>But Heaven's real. Ghost Rider's been there. There's all kinds of angels there.
I didn't say the Abraham god didn't exist in Marvel, but the Marvel version is so weak that it is silly to pray to it. Marvel's Abraham god is powerless and can't save anyone. This is obvious by the frequency by which entire dimensions get destroyed on a regular basis. The Abraham god's only selling point is omnipotence, without it there is just no point.
>>83586925
>after all that Spidey did for him God didn't save Uncle Ben.
God confirmed not a bro. I bet that Thor would have saved Uncle Ben.
>>83591175
>that White Jesus
>>83587946
That makes even less sense when you take not that Peter actually met God and talked with him.
>>83590511
Ultimate Pete is Jewish. I think 616 is protestant.
I want writers just make a giant excuse that every hero is agnostic as fuck.
So, I don't have to offend nobody religion in their book and looking stupid when they met a god.
>>83588583
Remember that part in OMD where the Lord Himself came down to Earth just to remind Peter to keep the faith and not lose sight of what's important? And Peter STILL sold his marriage anyway?
>>83591557
God needs to get off drugs jesus christ he looks like hell.
>>83591557
We all know "one beyond all" is the writer and probably told peter sell his soul just to fuck with him.
>>83591557
This is so fucking retard.
If Peter recognizes God and knows he exists, why was he at all worried about Aunt May's death?
Like, she's going to go to heaven, no problem.
>>83591618
Who said she's going to heaven? God is the biggest dick of them all.
>>83591618
>implying she's not going to hell for cheating on Uncle Ben with Peter's dad
>>83586925
People can publish whatever they want in America, and fuck you for suggesting otherwise.
>>83591439
Except, this book wasn't even about that. If anything it's about everyone telling him that he should have faith. It's suppose to be a parody of A Christmas Carol except with a lot more Catholic symbolism, latinos, and a villain that has the powers to preform miracles.
Why does 4chan have so many Christfags?
>>83592327
Because 'murrica is a Christian nation.
>54 posters
>54 people who haven't read the comic and are complaining about what the comic is doing, when in reality it's trying to do the opposite of what it's complaining about.
I really want someone to cap these reactions for when the arch ends.
>>83592417
I didn't complain about it even once, you jerk.
>>83587281
best post in thread.
>>83592327
>Peter deflects the responsibility of Ben's death and blames god rather than himself
>hurr durr y so many christfags here
I wonder how the minds of zealots work that just one mention of religion means the central point is religion.
>>83592453
Sorry, anon. Here, take a cookie.
>>83588864
>Because when a good man dies unjustly... People blame god.
Except Peter Parker who, quite classically, blames himself.
>>83592327
>Why does 4chan have so many Christfags?
The same reason Utah downloads so much porn; the Vatican covers up for pedopriests; and Republicans with wide stances get caught snorting meth off a male strippers ass: the bigger the cross; the louder they pray; the more of a hypocrite they are inside. EVERY. FUCKING. TIME!
>>83588779
Why does bad writing happen?
>>83592327
Too many examples of internet-athiests being fat teens in a fedora just being athiest to be edgy and rebellious, so now the "cool" thing to do is to be whatever isn't them.
It doesn't actually have anything to do with belief in a higher power or not most of the time, it's just "I'd rather be this than the other thing because look how stupid he looks and how pretentious he sounds"
>>83592030
FUCK OFF MILLAR
>>83591614
Okay but did Peter actually sell his soul, or only his marriage/love for MJ?
>>83590368
Not him but if you see a preview of something that looks like shit and reviews say it's shit then why wouldn't you assume it's shit?
>>83586925
i like the second panel, the X on the eyes pretty much is telling you you are reading a looney toon cartoon
>>83593116
Of course, I wasn't arguing against that, but I wont go around saying it's shit, because I have no knowledge of the book.
>>83592327
>Why does 4chan have so many Christfags?
Don't know. I just know that "tip fedora" is some kind of term used to pretend one is morally superior. In short, what retards do.
>>83586925
>actual x's on the eyes
>people defend this
>>83587068
The problem is that most writers are Daily Show liberals/far leftists nowadays which means characters are not allowed to be Christians because Christians are evil.
>>83586925
Holy shit May looks like an old gypsy transvestite in the 3rd panel.
>>83592636
I like how you completely failed to give anything resembling an answer and did so in the most autistic way possible.
I'm certain you would be more at home on Twitter.
>>83593220
The book is actually the exact opposite of that though. Peter's clearly viewed as the character in the wrong throughout the story while everyone keeps telling him that having a little faith isn't always a bad thing.
>>83592327
Like a good 70% are ironic and/or falsedlaggers looking to trigger some gullible fedora tipper.
>>83593323
I think he's saying the most degenerate people are the most religious
and there ain't nobody more degenerate than 4chan
ain't nobody
>>83593500
remember that time Frank was Satan
>>83593500
Ya'll do realize that was suppose to be his beard, right?
God exists in the Marvel setting.
Heaven's on Fire shows this.
>>83593546
No one cares because the artist sucks.
Hasn't Peter prayed to god before?
>>83586925
>Peter
>Not Jewish
They just need to pull a Ben Grimm already
