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X-Men Apocalypse Thread Magneto:NNNNOOOOO Edition.
So the dust has finally settled. Fox's X-Men Apocalypse has finally come out and it sucks. It's been critically panned by all the Critics and has a Rotten Tomatoes score lower than X-Men the Last Stand, MoS, and ASM2. But it was bigger than their other bomb, Trank's FF. But not as high as their Success Deadpool.
How will this affect Fox, /co/?
Will Fox focus on Deadpool more? (Deadpool cinematic universe).
Will Fox reboot the X-Men (again)?
Will Fox get some new blood to take over the franchise as replace Singer?
Will Fox focus on lesser smaller scale stories and mutants?
Will Fox make a deal with Marvel Studios and let them make X-Men movies and have Mutants appear in the MCU?
Will Fox give the X-Men good costumes?
>>83478642
>Munn turned down the role of Deadpool's girlfriend for Pyslocke because she thought being Wade's squeeze was sexist
>brag about how empowering playing the character was
>gets three lines and is nothing more than a generic henchman
I enjoyed it, but I'll admit it was not a very good movie.
I'm afraid that if this underperforms we'll get the Deadpool Cinematic Universe from now on and they'll shove the character in every movie. I just want a new director for the X-Men franchise with a fresh take, maybe get them to space in the next one.
>>83478958
I am guessing she had more lines and plot but got cut
>>83478642
>Will Fox give the X-Men good costumes?
Seeing as the ones that pushed for good costumes had their roles cut and the end only give them ridiculous Cosplay level ones. Maybe not.
>>83478979
>maybe get them to space in the next one.
Singer is already planning on doing that
>>83479053
But he's leaving since this was a shambles. So now what?
>>83479079
Deadpool Cinematic Universe
>>83479079
Singer always says he's leaving but then comes back. Then Fox puts him in charge of everything. X-Men is the only franchise that makes him money. He'll be back.
>>83479103
Well shit, there's no escaping it.
I liked Deadpool, but I can only stomach the character in small doses. It's going to be a nightmare if he'll get shoved in everything from now on.
>>83479164
Singer should just settle in and be the Feige of X-movies
>>83479164
Nope, he only did Apocalypse to get a budget on that 20k Leagues under the Sea movie he's always wanted to make.
Anyone else excited about the bloopers?
>>83478642
>Will Fox get some new blood to take over the franchise as replace Singer?
>Will Fox focus on lesser smaller scale stories and mutants?
>>83479277
>wanting bloopers for anything non comedy
>>83479336
The answer is no, they'll just add more Deadpool and Wolverine to the movies.
>>83478642
So does the entire millennial generation just lack a brain? Do they seriously rely on reviews to tell them what is "good" or "bad"?
One of those reviews from a "top critic" just said Jennifer Lawrence needed a bigger role and gave it 2/5. Come on man.
>>83479391
Hugh Jackman is retiring from Wolerine. He's got Wolverine 3 and that's it.
I could see him passing the mantle to X-23 or Daken.
Fuck you, I liked it.
>Wolverine scene could have been cut out
>Stryker arriving and the entire base felt out of place and only serves to give students suits/transportation
>Quicksilver is rehashed and is left unresolved
>Mystique/JLaw in general wasnt great
>Jean actress was lifeless
>Apocalypse is overall uninteresting, and perhaps the biggest comic villain jobber yet (so yeah pretty faithful....huh...)
>Storm isnt really a character in this
>CGI is terrible, really noticeable in the 3rd act
>Jubilee is a glorified cameo, no powers
>Ends on a moment more interesting than the entire film
Its getting old FOX, something needs to change
>>83479437
>trusting Rotten Tomatoes
Ugh! Like! Ugh!
Don't you know that Rotten Tomaroes is literally Adolf Hitler??? This is the same website that have Max Landis's movies (yes THE Max Landis) rotten scores!!! This is of course crazy since Max Landis's movies are the greatest movies of the century!!!(Max Landis says so).
Rotten Tomatoes (and criticism) NEEDS to be destroyed!!!!
>>83478958
>Sexist
>Fucks the male protagonist in the ass
Let me guess. Being dominated by a woman is a male power fantasy
>>83479566
>biggest comic villain jobber yet
This is a complaint I don't get. Apocalypse finally didn't job out.
He took on Storms lightning, Cyclops punch beams, Super Magneto's onslaught, Prof X's mental assault and even Jean's gestating Phoenix abilities all at once and still nearly escaped before we went full Phoenix Force.
There isn't much that could stand up to that level of assault, let alone nearly walk away from it. If it takes the Phoenix itself to stop you, you haven't jobbed out.
>>83479566
>Apocalypse turns Storm's hair white
How the fucking hell does that even work? In the old movies she had white hair, did she meet Apocalypse in the old movies?
And if Prof X lost his hair to Apocalypse, how did he lose it in the old movies?
This just raises further questions!!!
>>83479795
It's a different universe
Really
>>83479747
I think its more about his own powers. He has the ability to manipulate matter, among several other abilities we dont know about, and yet he cant defeat these people even though thats one of the most OP things you could do. Youre left asking "why did he trap Scott in a wall instead of just turning him into dust?"
>>83479814
No, it's a alternate timeline. First Class was still canon to the old X-Films. And High Jackman still Sniktbub. But the old X-Men never encountered Apocalypse and Storm still had white hair and Prof X was bald. Whhhhhy?
I enjoyed it. Mostly because face bender is one of my favorite actors.
I guess it deserves a rotten status, movie was ruined by all the screen time jennifer lawrence got, stupid overrated bitch.
>>83479868
Yeah, omega god characters are hard to do because they are so powerful and you have to come up with reasons why they can't just kill the heroes with a snap (or like Fox just not explain it at all).
I think alot of critics didnt really understand what his powers were suppose to be.
>>83479164Good. Apocalypse was the most fun I've ever had at an X-movie.
>>83480080
Not only that, but Apocalypse wasnt interesting at all in his own fight. He basically just took the punishment, knocked people away, and did the quicksand trick we already saw half a dozen times. Take for instance the 90s cartoon version, he could change size, change his hand into weapons, fire energy blasts, etc. It may have been a budgeting issue, because that final act looked cheap.
>>83478642
Captain America Civil War was better.
Literally just got back from seeing it and think the criticism is completely exaggerated.
There are problems, and the third act literally looks like a video game at times, but my God it is probably the most fun of the big 3 super hero films that came out.
>>83480377
>muh bucky
terrible plot, it's only selling point is having the avengers fight each other.
>>83480431
>>83480446
Fox Shills pls leave
>>83480431
I mean the opening scene tells you most of what you need to know.
>Give them enough power and they'll RULE THE WORLD
>cue shot of HUGE PYRAMID WITH "A" iconography
So good.
>>83478642
I can't even bring myself to go see it.
I can remember more than one cringe inducing moment
>Wreak havoc
>Mystiques final speech
>Return of the Jedi joke
>>83480431
this tbqh familypie
>>83478642
>>83480530
>that shitty Star Wars joke
>"The third movie is always the worst!"
>Singer: Take that X3 The Last Stand
It's funny, because X-Men Apocalypse is the third movje in the new timeline. And it has a lower Rotten Tomatoes score than X-Men the last stand and being panned by everyone. So that shitty jab can also be applied to Singer's movie.
Brava, Singer. Brava.
Maybe next time act more humble than egotistical.
>>83478642
where do you go after defeating apocalypse? he's like one of the biggest x villains ever
dark pheonix (again)? onslaught?
>>83481154
Mojo?
>>83481154
Well according to post credits, they're going for Sinister.
>>83481154
Onslaught sounds good. Professor X and Magneto's gay psychically created "baby." Yep, it's perfect.
>>83481342
Which by the way, that teaser is really confusing to non comic fans. Hell I didnt even remember the Essex thing with Sinister
I had no expectations for BvS and was still let down an disappointed.
I had high expectations for Civil War and it was just alright.
I had subpar expectations for Apocalypse and I liked it.
Cyke, Nightcrawler, and Apocalypse were all good. Quicksilver scene was as good as the DOFP one (not mind blowing but still pretty cool). Jean and Storm were alright. Fuck JLaw.
Looking forward to the next one but I can see why people wouldn't like it.
You all know MCU Reed Richards will basically be this guy, right?
At least Scott wasnt useless this time
>>83481538
Yes, because Marvel Studios would instantly make Reed a villain like his ultimate counterpoint. Like when they made Spidey Miles.
*slap*
Dumbass.
The MCU actually has respect for their characters (unlike Fox). Reed and the rest of the Fantastic Four would be treated with Love in the MCU.
>>83478979
You're already getting different directors with New Mutants and Gambit.
>>83481465
It is really obscure. I figured it was for X-23
>>83482035
>Reed and the rest of the Fantastic Four would be treated with Love in the MCU.
...Unless Wheadon had anything to do with them.
>>83482088
It doesnt seem like Gambit is getting made anymore. Feels like FOX reluctant to even try
>>83482090
Which makes sense considering Jackmann is leaving. An army of Sinster clones would be fun to see I suppose
>>83480011
>Whhhhhy?
Are you dumb or just shitposting? You literally answered your own question, in that it's fucking alternate timeline. Xavier could have gone bald and Storm could have gotten white hair for different reasons in the old timeline.
>>83482035
>The MCU actually has respect for their characters (unlike Fox).
And to think that I almost believed you anon. Well played.
they should do the first arc of uncanny x-force
it works as a sequel of this movie and the later part of this is in space like they want
>>83479024
the only reason she has any roles is because she is married to fuck face
>>83479653
My favorite part is the "image.jpg" filename which means that you actually have this stored away in your phone for this very purpose
Really this is the Apocalypse I wanted and will never get
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYt78FWfa5M
>>83478642
I loved the movie. You can eat my pussy.
>>83482732
you can kill yourself. it always works
>>83482783
L O N D O N ?
They should do an Uncanny X Force movie.
>>83478979
Deadpool 2 will be a better movie but massively Underperform because only hot topic faggots like the character and they will have moved on to the next Le Quirky nerd XD character
Screen cap this
>>83482035
Hi Pym, how are you?
>>83482818
how much of wizard are you?
>>83482035
>The MCU actually has respect for their characters (unlike Fox)
You cannot seriously say this when Thor exists
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Thor-3-Funnier-Promises-Director-108077.html
>>83482809
What what that solve?
>>83482732
You did get that in the scene where he launches all the missiles.
Or does it only count if he literally repeats cartoon lines word for word instead of coming up with original ones of similar bombast?
>>83482843
9 more years until wizardom
>>83482860
>What what that solve?
the problem of overpopulation
>>83482879
I will wait. kisses
captcha: pic related
>>83482875
Its not so much the lines, but yeah the nuke scene was alright. Really cartoon Apocalypse had more of a presence than the film version.
>>83482926
So far, Apocalypse is the best world-conquering villain in the movies. I don't think Thanos will be better.
>>83482300
It's fucking stupid.
It shows that Fox and Singer give no fucks about their continuity or how their universe works. It's incredibly lazy. It's like something from a Bayformers movie.
Plus Patrick Stewart is coming back for Wolverine 3. Did he get his baldness from Alocalypse?
And it shows they give no fucks or respect about their comic book characters (just like DC)
>>83483034
Look I know FOX X Men is fucked when it comes to continuity, but you clearly dont know how alt timelines work. Out of all the inconsistencies to bitch about, THIS is what triggers you?
>>83482960
> don't think Thanos will be better.
Pfffthahahahahahahaha!!!! That's a good one, Fox Shill. I needed a laugh.
>>83483034
It shows that you don't know what you are talking about.
>>83483160
Thanos. Sitting on throne. He will show everyone, how much of a jobber he is! He Will!
Thanos: I'm in Love with Death
by Disney, coming this summer
you better watch this faggots, it will count in your continuity
also, nigga, I'm menacing
>>83483252
cont. no power rangers here, nope, total comic book accuracy
>>83483144
Yes, it's stupid. You didn't need Apocalypse to turn Storm's hair white or Prof X bald. It's fucking pointless.
Why not give Archangel a better look that doesn't look like shit so we don't have to look at Singer's ugly twink face?
>>83478642
I really dont get it. Sure, I liked it. I know other people dont, but fuck, it was better than ASM2 and Last Stand at least
>>83483281
Probably so you would whine about something else. The movie had a lot of problems. One thing I don't get is, why Marvel gets a slack, while fox gets a scorn? Sure, the movie is 6/10, but civil war was 4/10, if I can be honest.
>>83479653
>Landis is still getting chances in hollywood
Nepotism can really get you far, even if his dad killed 3 people.
>>83483316
After Deadpool, no fox movie will ever get more than 50%. So shall it be written, so shall it be done. You know what? had they give this move 60%, it would be fair, but this? This is bullshit
The film was enjoyable, but forgettable. Like Quantum of Solace. Also, really didn't pace itself well.
Disney, you went too far this time. No need to be butthurt about Alice flopping
>>83478642
It's made by a pedophile who literally once told his actors never to read the X-Men comics and to only read the script. That he knew X-Men better then anyone else (like Claremont, Morrison, and Whedon) and that he wanted to make the X-Men SUPER SERIOUS and not goofy.
I wish Singer would just get AIDS and die.
>>83483487
Based Singer
>>83478642
I liked it. Needed less Jennifer Lawerence
>>83483487
Meaning, he wanted to make X-Men the X-MEN?
X-Men are not avengers, or JLA, you know?
They are supposed to be serious. They are supposed to be depressing.
>>83483537
This is something that everyone seems to agree on. No one liked JLaw
>>83478642
>48%
>average rating 5.6/10
That's not panned, that's a resounding 'eh'.
>>83483574
I feel like people expected apocalypse to be 2deep4u, but had it be like that, they would say that it was garbage anyway. at least the movie didn't look like a tv show
>>83483571
I blame the "hero of all mutants" thing
>>83483606
Yeah. It was only one scene, but it was stupid
Thank god, they didn't waste more time on it.
It really felt, like an obligation to JLaw
>>83483574
It's panned. That's why it says ROTTEN and NOT fresh.
ROTTEN=Bad Movie
FRESH=Good movie.
It had a lower score than X-Men tte Last Stand, Man of Steel, and The Amazing Spider-Man 2
For you /co/, use it well
>>83483711
but why? It was the best capeshit of the year, unless you countsuicide squad
>>83480431
Same, I also liked Supes too, and was surprised with the both of them. What's even weirder is that I've been hating superhero movies since Rises. They're still cringey and not great, but Xmen and Superman were much more entertaining than what marvel has been putting out lately; it's all just so bland, like some kind of bran. I hope that these reviews don't push them in a worse off position. There's already enough you can fix without worrying about the non-issues the reviewers give.I couldn't help but laugh at Munn every time she popped up, thinking about the clip AotS showed all the time with the sausages; but it was still better than the three scenes in CW that weren't just blue and green rooms with Robert Downey
>>83483763
I fucking loved BvS, and I loved Apocalypse, and I hated Civil War. Is there something wrong with me?
>>83482836
I will
>>83482836
It will happen, because normies
>>83479024
Unlikely. If you look at Mystique, for example, in Singer's older movies, she has barely any lines at all.
It's just that Rebecca Cylon-Katsopolis could act, so she wasn't totally forgettable. Lots of people think they can act, very few actually can.
>>83478642
Well a Rotten Tomatoes score of 40 - 60% usually means that critics are split and that you'll either love it or hate it. When it gets to the thirties and below then it's pretty much guaranteed to be bad.
>>83478958
>gets shoved in some ridiculous swimwear outfit
Ah yes, finally, empowerment
>>83482035
I'm starting to see the *slap* shitposter in every Fox-men thread
>>83484002
Let's not fuck around. Critics hated it
However, pic related.
>>83484002
Its good if you don't know shit about comics/x-men or movies
Its bad otherwise
>>83484015
Honest question, how do you think MCU would improve, if they got X-Men?
>>83484072
I would say the opposite. People hated it, because it was too campy. They wanted serious X-Men, and they got a tribute to comics. Somehow, it's haram, when Fox does it. If you look at the reviews, they wanted a serious political tirade.
>>83478642
>Will Fox focus on Deadpool more? (Deadpool cinematic universe).
Unlikely, the rights deal is for title characters. Deadpool isn't one of the X-Men, he's just included in their rights - you'd have to call it X-Men Whatever: Deadpool Movie to get it to count. No really, that's how that works. It stops you making something called, I don't know, Look At This Fat Cunt with someone's IP (unless the IP is actually called Look At This Fat Cunt).
>Will Fox reboot the X-Men (again)?
They'd be on what, the fourth? On 9 movies? Yeah, sure.
>Will Fox get some new blood to take over the franchise as replace Singer?
If he won't get his budgets under control. They've always been a little on the high side.
>Will Fox focus on lesser smaller scale stories and mutants?
Again, it's difficult. The title rights thing is intended to prevent you making movies about side characters perpetually and hogging the rights - you can make those, you just need to do it in the window that title character movies provide, even if it means making separate movies. Like how FOX at one time had a Silver Surfer movie planned - they could make it, but it wouldn't reset the rights countdown.
>Will Fox make a deal with Marvel Studios and let them make X-Men movies and have Mutants appear in the MCU?
No. FOX doesn't deal like that. They have nothing Marvel needs - it's a question of need, not want.
>Will Fox give the X-Men good costumes?
Are they really that bad?
>>83478979
It has already underperformed. At this stage it's going to finish on $20m this weekend for a total of just 115 or so; that's going to bring another 20 or so by the end of next weekend, then ten the following seven days, then five. It's going to be really surprising if it hits $200m domestically - it's dropping off faster than DoFP did, and from a much lower start point.
>>83484002
No, it is says ROTTEN, it is bad. That's the whole point of the Fresh/Rotten score. Fresh=Good, Rotten=Bad.
X-Men Apocalypse, Batman v Superman, Trank's Fantastic Four, X-Men the Last Stand, Man of Steel, The Amazing Spider-Man 2.
All Rotten. All bad movies. Some are less bad than others. But they are all bad movie. Just because one piece of crap is less smelly than another piece of crap, doesn't change that it's a piece of crap.
Unlike all of Marvel Studios movies which have Fresh scores.
It's a MCU-World, you all are just living in it.
>>83484114
Knowing that, i can totally see why critics panned it now. They've sort of seen X-Men as a commentary superhero franchise with First Class and DoFP and such, so when one comes around that's just about fighting a big bad than I can see why people like critics would be disappointing.
>>83483782
No. I think the villains really separated them. Obviously Lex wasn't great, but he was very interesting to watch, minus the redcoats bit. Apocalypse, with his babel speech was great, and >>83483719 was one of the best Lee cameos. They just felt better. It might be that the MCU is getting bloated. I still don't like the idea that the whole avengers had to be created to deal with Loki, and some alien army that totally isn't the Kree or Skrull, and the mastermind behind their downfall was Baron Zemo... Is it so much to ask for a good villain?
>>83480431
I thought it was okay.
Civil War was a better movie and more entertaining.
But it wasn't BvS levels of slog and dour.
I could see a director's cut actually fixing a lot of the film by filling out bits that were cut for time.
Ultimately though it's like the 4th best X-Men film not counting Deadpool.
>>83483782
You have fecal receptors on your tongue.
>>83484149
Funny thing that this movie makes bad in usa, while it makes money in not-english speaking countries. Apparently, people really read RT before going to the movie, because spending money on movie is a big deal in usa. Much more than in third world countries. Oh well, I have yet to see a legitimate criticism of the movie
>>83479566
Don't forget Fassbender's terrible overacting performance.
>that Darth Vader NOOOOO he yells
>THIS IS ACTING!!!!!! BLAAARRRG!!!!
I rolled my eyes during the whole thing.
>>83484186
That isn't saying much
My only question is why do these movies hate Angel so much?
>>83484164
The movie had a difficult situation, because it was finishing Magneto / Xavier plot, and also estabilishing young X-Men.
>>83484172
God, I know that people will hate me, but I liked Lex. He should be portrayed differently, but the movie was really enjoyable. Much different tone than marvel flicks. You know, I would change a lot of things, Superman should be more positive, and happier, but otherwise, I loved the movie. It makes me depressed that the only movies we can get are marvel movies. Why?
>>83484201
Do you know how many Asians saw Transformers Age of Extinction, anon. They don't give a shit about quality.
>>83484201
You could actually read the thread you dumbshit.
Here's another one: Storm, Psylocke and Archangel are all wasted and useless.
>>83484244
Seriously, why did Archangel have the most half-assed look out of the four horsemen? And why did they make him so evil? Like what the fuck?
>>83484190
Are you sure, that it's not YOU, who has shit on your tongue? Do you really liked Civil Skirmish?
It was puny? Funny. There were no stakes, no villain, no tension. It felt like watching looney tunes.
I'm not trying to be contrarian, but really? I can criticize BvS, Apocalypse for hours, but why CW gets slack?
>>83484284
Just like Black Widow, Zemo, Hawkeye, Hulk (oh wait), Thor, etc. It's basically Iron Man bitchlaps Captain Hydra
This is a serious question, I am not trolling this is 100% serious
Outside of the slightly better choreography, how was the final fight with Apocalypse any different than F4stic's final fight with Doom? Both villains monologue a lot, both villains have ALL the powers (for some reason in Doom's case), both villains come out basically fucking everybody over. Then when it gets to the final fight, they basically just do stupid shit. In Doom's case it was "throw rocks at them". In Apoc's case it was "Stand there and just let the forcefield take care of everything
Niggas, you can kill people with thoughts. Why raise the stakes this high if you can't handle it Fox?
>>83484365
FF is supposed to be light-hearted. X-Men are supposed to be like that. People who say that FF should go back to MCU are right, albeit, let's not start this discussion right here, right now
>>83482926
>Really cartoon Apocalypse had more of a presence than the film version.
The cartoon version of everything in X-Men is better than the movies
>>83484130
>Unlikely, the rights deal is for title characters. Deadpool isn't one of the X-Men, he's just included in their rights - you'd have to call it X-Men Whatever: Deadpool Movie to get it to count. No really, that's how that works. It stops you making something called, I don't know, Look At This Fat Cunt with someone's IP (unless the IP is actually called Look At This Fat Cunt)
That is so weird.
>>83484365
>Niggas, you can kill people with thoughts. Why raise the stakes this high if you can't handle it Fox?
How did a bunch of bronze-age primitives lock him in a fucking casket in the first place?
Because he's garbage. The whole concept is flawed, giving him more powers just makes it obvious.
>>83484454
>showing mercy to animals is weakness
every fucking time.
Apocalypse is life, Apocalypse is love, you fucking infidel. Maybe we should nuke you next time
>>83484082
I dunno, i just think they could handle the franchise and it's characters, maybe in ways Fox-men couldn't or wouldn't
Fox has offered some good shit til now, but also some bad shit, and the good parts are starting to get redundant, so in a way I'd be more.excited to see a new direction rather than hoping for more X2s or First Classes
Unless they start taking a lesson or 2 from Deadpool. In that case more power to them
>>83484526
But how? You do realize that they would neuter X-Men anyway? At this point they only care about Wolverine. Fox made a lot of shitty things, but as long as Fox has the rights, we can expect X-Men universe. If X-Men falls under marvel umbrella, both MCU loses stuff like GOTG, or Ant-Man, and X-fags lose X-Men characters, because they will be used to promote Avengers. Marvel is not dumb, they will never make X-Men great, Avengers are supposed to be the face of Marvel. And Spider-Man, but X-Men were/are bastards.
>>83484427
Not really. Imagine if you'd sold the rights to Batman, as DC once did, and instead of just a Batman show, they'd kept making shows and movies about Batman-related characters included in the deal. We'd still be sitting through Killer Moth season 11 and looking forward to that Sterling Silversmith movie coming 2016. Meanwhile, there wouldn't be any of the movies we're familiar with, which is shall we say a mixed blessing.
It's even worse if you look at the Superman rights. Those literally did include the Supergirl and Superboy rights, and the rights for pretty much everybody else in the franchise were shared between Superman, Supergirl, and Superboy. It took literally 20 years of (fairly underhand) legal action from WB just to get the Superboy rights back, during which time they made two Superman series - that's why Smallville was called Smallville and not Superboy, because they didn't have the Superboy rights until four years after it premiered.
I still don't now how I feel about the Quicksilver scene.
I enjoyed how it started with him just happening to be there at the right moment and the music kicked in but seemed to go on waaaaaay too long and had way too many quirky things he would do while speeding around.
>>83484522
With what? Good luck creating a nuke blueprint with hieroglyphics, caveman.
>>83479437
I miss roger ebert...
>>83481154
Exactly that, but in the reverse.
Onslaught for the next movie, set in the 90s.
Phoenix for the one after, set in the 00s.Based on Grant Morrisons' New X-Men.
>>83484602
It's genuinely bothering me how much it was like the scene in Three Hundred Big Boys, right down to the smug look on his face.
>>83483348
Who's his Dad? Ray Donavan?
>>83484631
>hieroglyphics
it's for goys. We have print, you monkey
Get on my level. Do you need a banana?
>>83481538
Anon's shitty bait thread a few days ago did raise one good point.
If MCU get the FF rights back, they should be introduced as a super-team from a parallel Earth who dimension hop over.
Opens a whole new world of possibility after Phase 3 plays out the "we space now" card.
>>83484647
What's the point of Onslaught, exactly?
>can only be hurt by non-mutants
>lusts after Franklin Richards, who's part of a failed franchise even if FOX had the right to cross them over
I mean, you could just make him the fucking Shadow King again like they did with Apocalypse, but at that point you'd be retarded.
>>83483955
>It's just that Rebecca Cylon-Katsopolis could act, so she wasn't totally forgettable. Lots of people think they can act, very few actually can.
Oh god, you're so full of shit. Mystique was completely forgetable in the original movies. Nothing but a blue naked babe with minimal lines. You may not like JLaw, and she may be getting bored with the role, but she's twice the actress Rebecca is.
>>83484692
>locked up in a coffin for 5,000 years
>thinks he can read like real people
your book's upside down, numbnuts
>>83482184
Allegedly they're just restructuring the script after seeing how well Deadpool did for respecting the source material and horribly Fan4stic did for disregarding it.
You could kind of tell it was going to be a cheap cash grab before, as they scramble for a new Jackman.
It's possible though that they drop it after seeing how shitty the source material is.
>>83484593
Dude, you're bringing in a whole different argument, I can't predict fantomatic business practices, nor can you
>>83484704
No one really cares about FF. People want Doom
>>83484728
Nobody mentioned JLaw, anon. The comparison was clearly between old Mystique and new Psylocke.
Keep fapping to those stolen pics tho, one day they might talk to you.Look down. Whisper, "no".
>>83482035
>*slap*
Have we already moved past this being /co/'s new trigger word?
A pity.
>>83484742
Say it to my face, you flatscan.
Not on the internet. See how you fare.
I mean, really, a monkey throwing a poo poo at me? really? Stop bothering me, I wasted enoug letters on you.
>>83484760
>>83482184
was Frank Miller involved?
>>83484769
However, people think that Marvel getting X-Men, will magically fix everything. Who is dumb here, right now? Me, or them?
>>83484813
You're running out of letter, huh? Here's that h you needed.
It's ok, learning to read as an adult is supposed to be hard.
>>83482035
Also Apocalypse respected these characters just as much as any MCU film, cummon fame.
>>83484785
My point stands regardless. Rebecca was totally forgettable. Just a good looking blue chick with weird scales all over her body.
>>83483539
BUT MUH FIRST CLASS
>>83484842
Have your minor victory, because I gave it to you.
Otherwise you have no arguments.
You cannot argue anything else I said.
All that is left, is picking up on orthography.
Good, I will teach you, you will be my favorite slave
>>83484201
You caught us. We'll actually working for Marvel Studios. We just sssooooooo scared that X-Men Crapocalypse was going to be the next Capekino that we bribed all the critics into hating it.
>>83484879
>first class
>nigger dies first
>nigger happens to be unkillable mutant
>director completely mixes up the timelines, we get morrison, mixed with brubacker
>people praise it
oh lawd
>>83484835
Both, probably, but you're the one getting triggered at people speculating shit
>>83478642
>Will Fox make a deal with Marvel Studios and let them make X-Men movies and have Mutants appear in the MCU?
Fucking Mouseketeers, if your precious Mickey wanted, he would've bought the rights to X-Men already instead of giving the NBA 2.6 billion dollars a year for the next 10 years to show games on ESPN.
>B-But Fox would charge stupid high prices for the IP
Disney is good for it. I mean, afterall you've posted the box office results yourselves. Disney can cover it.
>>83484072
I loved it specifically because of how much deference it showed to the comics.
>>83484891
At least you are honest. I don't blame you. Really.
This move was really good, but you had to make it certain that it doesn't overshadows your puny War.
I respect the challenger. It was a good game. What now? You still have Doctor Strange coming out this year. I hope it will flop.
It won't, but I can keep hoping. You really deserve a flop.
>>83484149
HERE HERE
>>83484938
Yeah, because I am making a daily threads with
>givex-menbacktomarvel.
I am very triggered. I care soo much about it, enough that I have to point it out
>>83484244
I don 't much get the point of him in the comics either desu. :\
>>83480446
Obviously bait silly anon
>>83484993
You care enough to keep making *slap* posts
>>83484716
All this capeshit later and you think characters have to be 1:1 adaptations... why exactly?
Also how are either of those factoids vital to the character? He's Charlesneto's homicidal psychic baby, that's what's important and that's what'd be used. Saying that you couldn't do him without Franklin is like saying you couldn't do the Avengers without Wolverine.
>>83478642
Fox should just give the right back to Marvel Studios.
That way we can have the X-Men in the MCU. Just imagine it.
Wolverine and Captain America teaming up during WW2.
And Peter Parker date Kitty Pryde.
And Beast on the Avengers.
And Spidey teaming up with Iceman and Firestar.
And Black Panther and Storm dating.
And Rogue fighting Carol.
And Wolverine vs the Hulk.
And Nick Fury and Shield interacting with X-Men and mutants.
And good costumes for the X-Men
And Avengers vs X-Men.
>>83485170
>is like saying you couldn't do the Avengers without Wolverine.
It makes me depressed that there are people who think like that. I mean Wolverine was avenger for like few years, and he was mostly a background character, yet, some losers want him to be an avenger? Why? It's like wanting Kurt Cobain to be a guitarist for Justin Bieber band
>>83485187
Your pasta is stale mate
>>83484960
>You still have Doctor Strange coming out this year. I hope it will flop.
I really like Apocalypse too and would believe foul play's involvement but let's not say thing's we can't take back, now.
>>83485187
>Everything sucks: the post
It's like you don't even give a fuck. It's like you want us to hate the idea of X-Men being in the mcu, which would work, but not the way you picture it. X-Men > avengers. Deal with it. Otherwise there is nothing to talk about.
>>83485254
Personally I would rather Justin Bieber in a Nirvana band
>>83485291
If you want Bieber to be a Nirvana band, it means that you want Avengers to be X-Men.
Think about it. Why do you want Wolverine to suck?
>>83485187
All I want out of that is Avengers vs X-Men.
And only if it's a shared deal using both established canons.
Need something for the 2010s period movie.
>>83485272
I really hate marvel right now. I am a shitty person, I know, but frankly, marvel doesn't deserve the reviews that they get. All I want is everyone to have their own sandbox to play, but no, marvel has to dominate everything, even if they suck major balls
>>83485281
>HURR DURR I HATE FUN
No wonder you like X-Men Apocalypse
>>83485120
You're screaming and kicking against a meme
All these "Fox is dead, Disney X-men when XD" OPs are not more serious than all those "true kinographé" pics on BvS
>>83485349
Apocalypse was 100% fun.
Why do you hate X-Men?
Do they trigger you?
>>83485272
Don't worry, anon. Doctor Strange will make tons of money and have a fresh score on RT. Just like all MCU movies. Marvel Studios know how to make good films. It will even have a higher score than X-Men Apocalypse and make more money (which isn't hard).
;^)
>>83485380
Yeah, because watching Magneto kill more people than the holocaust with no weight or repercussions was sssooooooo fun.
That was sarcasm btw.
>>83485373
I agree. What do we do now?
>>83485479
>implying a jew genociding goys wasn't fun to watch
pic related, captcha
>>83478642
>has a Rotten Tomatoes score lower than X-Men the Last Stand,
Thanks for highlighting why i don't pay much attention to RT. Last Stand was one of the worst super hero movies ever made and right up there with Spider Man three and just below Batman and Robin.
>>83485511
>I agree. What do we do now?
I guess we hope Sniktbub 3 doesn't suck
>>83485560
>b-b-but my RT score
don't be a contrarian anon
>>83485347
At least vent your meme magic elsewhere.
Like Ragnarok. Or Homecoming. Or Ant-Man 2.Pls not Captain Marvel tho, she's suffered enough.
>>83485601
You should hope that reviewers will clean their heads. The biggest mistake of apocalypse was to be screened the same month as Civil War. Next time don't compete with marvel, because reviewers will eat you alive.
>>83485421
Okay.
>>83485601
Wouldn't care if it did desu. Not like he's set a standard for good solo films.
>>83485624
I don't want your fave characters to fail.
If you like Pym and Ant-Man, that's fine, I can wish your movies to be the best, to be blockbusters.
Just stop shitting on X-Men, especially that Fox got inspired by MCU. 10 years, they make comic book movie, and they get low reviews. I mean, really? X-Men being separate from MCU benefits everyone. You should shill for X-Men not being mcu
>>83485711
You don't need to tell me. I preferred this to Civil War and want Singer on for another 2-3 movies.
>>83485711
Sorry, the public has spoken. Bloggers will bash & bash some more until X-Men is in Disney's hands. You think they were brutal to BvS? There is a bit of extra ire in X-Men reviews or any marvel movie that isn't owned by Marvel Studios.
>>83485635
I don't really think releasing in a different time would've improved Apoc's critical reception all that much. It's pretty much Last Stand 2.0, a big, dumb, team action movie with a weak plot. If anything it's coming out after DoFP, after Deadpool, after almost 16 years of X-men that made the critics more harsh
>>83485752
Well, then keep your finger crossed, because if this movie fails, we will get more deadpool and jackman. Because, everytime young, classic x-men appear, it's a fail.
>>83485784
Yeah, too bad that they didn't speak during DOFP. That movie was a complete butchery of the source material. It was a good movie, but it was a shitty x-men movie. Finally, we get an X-Men movie, where X-Men do X-Men things, like, attacking government facilities, or teaming-up against a mutant threat, or practicing in danger room. And you know what? We will not get any more of that, because faggots like you are repeating the memes. You didn't see a movie, you just want to be a part of some meme.
>>83485784
One step at a time. Let's get FF back first.
>>83485834
I think that the reception would be better, given that everyone compared this movie to civil war. Everyone
>>83485871
And then what? It's funny that you have dreams, but you never had the next steps in your dreams.
>>83485899
>I think that the reception would be better, given that everyone compared this movie to civil war. Everyone
Yeeeaaah... just like everyone shat on MoS and BvS only because they forced a comparison with the Donner movies, right?
>>83485947
Don't shoot the messenger. Both positive and negative reviews compared the movie to civil war. Don't get me wrong, Civil War is a huge success, the thing is, Fox was too cocky, they should have pushed it further down the year, the movie would fare better. I am certain of that, even if I have no resources to prove my point.
At this point, only a fool challenges the mouse, and I wonder how Suicide Squad will fare. I will not be surprised if that movie will get 0% reviews
>>83485479
But that what magneto planned to do in xmen 1 xmen 2 xmen 3 days of future past.
>>83485899
And then just make movies.
Maybe patch thing over with Fox enough for a crossover.
I wouldn't mind if X-Men stayed their own thing for good.
>>83486084
Yeah, because it's going to be that easy.
They can't make a Namor movie.
And the deal with Sony is not really that good either. I read a little about it, and frankly, Sony still has the upper hand.
>>83485868
>You didn't see a movie, you just want to be a part of some meme.
I think it's telling that just like Disney, the mouseketeers here only care about how much a movie makes, & what the RT score is.
>>83486002
Except the X-Men stopped him before he could complete.
Watching Magneto kill billions people with no remorse then 5 minutes later go "sorry brah" is kind of terrible.
It's Man of Steel level of LOOK AT BUILDINGS BLOW UP! ISN'T THAT KEWL? THE BADGUYS ARE SO TOUGH AND COOL. OOPS HOLLCAUST OVER. EVERYONE SMILE AND BE HAPPY LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED. XD
You think Singer would learn that MoS was hated for good reason and NOT copy it.
>>83486136
But what if the movie is genuinely good.
I mean, imagine every criticism about the Fox-Men you had. Imagine that this movie addresses all of your criticism. And people still hate it, because it's not mcu.
The only reason people hate this movie is because it's not mcu. I will try to look for proof, but I am really sad. I mean really, now when fox finally takes notes from marvel, you hate it? Why didn't you hate it earlier?
>>83486126
I wouldn't say so. A good spiderman movie leads to more merchandising and comics sales for spiderman.
>>83486205
Don't fuck with Magneto, or Magneto will fuck with you, puny human. Remember your place. Superiors can do whatever you want, and all you can do, is shut the fuck up, and stop whining like the bitch you are
>>83486288
Which benefits Sony greatly.
It's like people are so blinded with the Civil War, that they omit the fact that marvel still doesn't own Spider-Man in 100%, and that they are desperate to include spider-man in their movie.
Now, imagine the same happening with the x-men. God, I don't have a gif to portray that. Imagine sniktbub making an entrance. Bitches would be like, crazy
>>83486205
They can easily recon that by saying influenced by apocalypse and he murdered people. But you are forgetting from every previous xmen movie he planned on killing the world. So you should have been mad about his intentions more than the outcome.
>>83486344
It's not a big deal they don't make money off of it. They already rolling in dough. They have full creative controls that only thing we should worry about.
>>83484313
I never said anything about Civil War. That has nothing to do with how good Apocalypse is, which is not very.
>>83486350
Only Magneto knows that he wanted to kill everyone. Exactly like in comics. Xorn killed New York, not Magneto, but then again, Magneto wanted to do it anyway. Ultimate Jew.
>>83486383
Well, I think you agree that the deal could be better, considering it's fucking Spider-Man? Also, what's the deal with the different costume?
>>83486425
Do you seriously not know why?
>>83486388
What you didn't say, said a lot about what you said. The thing is, if you hated the movie, how would you rate civil war, btw? I'm asking, because it's a good thing to compare the two.
>>83486257
>The only reason people hate this movie is because it's not mcu
Yes, that is the ONLY reason. Totally has nothing to do with JLaw's half-assed acting, Fassbender's overacting, the terrible cgi, Apocalypse being boring, tone tone shifts, the slow pacing, tons of X characters getting no development and others who are just cameos, dull action, focusing most of the movie on Magneto (AGAIN), not focusing enough on Cyclops and Nightcrawler, terrible costumes, and lack of fun.
......TOTALLY
>>83486504
Honestly I don't think anyone who says "you're Disney shills, you only hate it because it isn't MCU!" genuinely believes this. The company wars threads in general have just become trolls trolling trolls.
>movie is literally titled Apocalypse
>doesn't end in some Rock Opera in the same vein as Rock & Rule with Storm & Wolverine singing in harmony driving apocalypse back from whence he came.
Dance offs were a mistake.
>>83486474
Why do you care?
>>83483782
Its possible you just have shit taste. Nobody wants to think that of themselves but you know what, someone is buying Meghan Trainor's songs, the Big Bang Theory is still on the air, and Applebee's inexplicably remains open for your "dining" experience.
And its not like its some crime against humanity for having shit taste. Just try to remain a little self-aware and not confuse personal preference for something of questionable quality as being objectively good just because you found some value in it.
>>83486504
I'd rather they focus on those same mutants than have another fucking Wolverine focused one. Fucker has enough exposure as is.
>>83486504
JLaw is out. Fassbender was based, fuck off.
Apocalypse was apocalypse. At least he said something, unlike Purple shithead on throne.
Yes, the tone shifts, especially that people complained that x-men were too serious.
How do you want development in over 2 hour movie. The movie lasted 2 hours, and it was too long for many people. Also, fuck wolverine, he was only there because of fags like you. don't even pretend that you're not one of these fags.
The action was good, in the X-Men way. Keep in mind that X-Men are not Avengers. I would argue that there was too much action. Cyclops got much more focuse than in any other movie before. And Kurt is cute.
>lack of fun
It's like you are hurting me on purpose. Why, anon? Do you really want to hurt me? Do you really want to make me cry-ha-hay?
>>83486540
I agree. At this point it's a generic insult
>>83486504
Qucksilver's scenes were fun but out of place imo
And honestly I was liking the movie up until the third act when it got FF 2 level bad, and then realized they did nothing with the new X-men actors other than Dark Phoenix.
>>83486504
Let me do civil wars.
Not organically forcing Tony and captain america at each other throats.
You had decades of Captain vs iron man arguments in the comics then it lead up to civil war. Movie hey here's the accords. Instead of actually talking about or arguing about organically. Let's just fight.
Random requirement Montage.
Hawkeye cap needs my help I am helping him.
Headache inducing action scenes just like transformer 2.
Tony trying to kill bucky after just learning he was manipulated by a psycho.
Baron zemo being magneto literally. Family died time to get revenge.
>>83486550
because I'm stoned
>>83486564
so many words, so little substance. you should waste less times in being reddit-approved, and more time in being critifcful. What you said has nothing to do with the movie.
Remember when there was going to be an X-Men/Fantastic Four crossover?
Good times.
>>83486642
you know, but it had fanservice!
Oh, I forgot, fanservice is why Apocalypse sucks.
It has too many fanservice, unlike marvel movies.
>>83486568
So have X, Magneto, Beast and Mystique at this point.
>>83486676
fuck crossovers, fans will suffer, because movie rights. why encouraging competition, only one ring to rule them all
>>83486568
I'd like to see focus on mutants that aren't Magneto, Prof X, Magneto, Wolerine, Magneto, Sniktbub, Mystique, or Magneto.
>>83486676
They're still doing another Fantastic Four, probably another reboot tho
>>83486718
Yup, I guess that you don't like the focus shifted on Kurt, Cyke, Jean, Storm, Pietro. Also, they have costumes. No more tacticool. Too bad.
>>83486738
Then maybe you should watch X-Men apocalypse.
I don't know, just throwing ideas, and whatsnot.
>>83486718
>>83486568
Mfw introduced cyke Jean nightcrawler storm for being main characters in the next movie.
>>83486843
nope. the movie flopped. no more cyke. more sniktbub. I feel cucked
GIVE IT BACK TO MARVEL, FOX! like right now!
When?
>>83486889
I want TNMT back at marvel.
Also, I want Alice back at marvel too, the recent reboot with Depp sucked
>>83486843
>thinking it's not going to be more of Charles and Erik
>and more Mystique milking if they can talk JLaw into sticking around
>>83486627
>Also, fuck wolverine, he was only there because of fags like you. don't even pretend that you're not one of these fags.
I love watching deluded fucks like you throw these little imagined tirade since you so desperately need a face to your failure.
Here are the facts.
They put Jackman and Wolverine in because the hasbeen has been and always will be the center piece of X-shit in some fashion even when we're "not going to see that guy again" for the umpteenth time. If you've given consistent funds to the Fox-Men movies (You) and (You) alone helped breed this fucking faggot's career and this faggotry that comes with it and you can swallow the adamantium load you worked out that shaft.
>>83486889
>>83486914
I hope Marvel gets the rights back to the Justice League next too.
>>83486893
soon
>>83486932
"I" helped breed this faggot's career?
Because when the trailer happened, thousand of anons suddenly started being hyped about the movie? Get real. I agree with you, but don't attack me, if you're on my side
>>83486889
>>83486914
>>83486945
I hope Marvel gets the rights back to every movie that isn't from Disney.
>>83486945
I want marvel to get rights to Usagi Yojimbo. It's a crime that they lost the rights so much. Fucking Sakai, stealing the rights from marvel....
Fucking hack
New mutants fucking when, I want to see my waifu on screen
>>83487005
Imagine "Everything: The Movie"
by Disney
Avengers, Pinocchio, Beast (not that beast), Cinderella, Goofy on the adventure searching for holy grail. Fuck, that would be meta.
>>83487042
Better throw in the Might Ducks Franchise for good measure!
>>83487023
which one?
>>83487073
and some catchphrase "better disney, than not being disney, dude, friend and mate"
kids will love it, I tell you, I'm shitting you not
It will blow the fuck away of them
>implying this won't make loads of money
>Deadpool and Wolverine
>>83487114
>implying it's not going to happen, given the reception of the apocalypse
>implying it's not the future we choose
>>83484003
She asked for the suit. She wanted it to be comic accurate even when the director wanted to go in another direction.
>>83487078
All of them except Karma
Anyone else extremely pissed that Jubilee didn't get a bigger role outside of a few speaking lines and camera shots? I understand that all the boring fucks like Scott and Jean are plot-relevant, but goddammit I want to see my Jubilee or Gambit.
>>83487164
You fucking bigot.
>>83487042
I think that already exists
http://poohadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Pooh's_Adventures_Wiki
>>83487393
Wel too fucking bad, anon.
Enjoy wasting time on Magneto's shitty dead family and JLaw
>>83487393
She got a bigger role, it's just that it was cut.
And frankly, I wonder how different the mall cut would be reviewed?
Imagine a cut with more mall scenes, and no wolverine scene? Would this movie had better reviews, or worse?
>>83487460
I love it. I love to see the world burn
>>83487393
Apparently she was supposed to have a friendship plot with Nightcrawler that got, which is why they're standing together at the end.
>>83486738
This. At the very least I would hope we'd get an X Force movie. We've past the point of no return with the whole "ERIK I LOVE YOU YOU CAN BE A GREAT PERSON" bromance shit
Hey guys, this is gonna be a movie. Another shitty movie. Another shitty movie that takes a great written series and waters it down to hunger games- X Men edition.
>>83479479
I'm conflicted here. I know they're gonna go with X-23 or Daken because they know no Wolverinne is going to be as popular and loved as Jackman, but I was hoping they'd recast him as a comic book short, hairy Logan and relegate him to purely side character.
>>83487805
>That won't be a movie. At best you'll get the New Mutants as canon fodder when the Shi-ar show up or somet shit because fucking phoenix saga again.
>>83480080
That's why you don't fight an Omega level character, you delay them. That's one thing the 90s X-Men cartoon got so right with Apocalypse. The X-Men always got blasted in a fight with him, all they ever did was ruin whatever his latest plan was and then he just bailed since there wasn't a point to fighting them. Hell, the one time he did stay and fight he causally killed them all and Cable had to travel back in time to fix it.
>>83487895
But..... Magik and Cannonaball......NO
>>83478642
not my babies
>>83487805
At least we will have a movie, unlike...Pym
If I could save time in a bottle, the first thing that I'd like to do
>>83486642
But there has always been a tension between Tony and Steve.
Instead of actually talking about or arguing about organically. Let's just fight.
>>83487042
Proper title would be Kingdom Hearts: The Movie.
its probably been said before, but the end of all of this, Fox wins. The X-Men are generally more interesting characters and there are more well written X-Men than Avengers. Eventually The Avengers franchise will slowly lose steam. While at the same time, all Fox has to do is make shitty movies every few years and a make a quality one just as frequently. They never run out of characters and make bank. Where Disney has Iron Man and Cap. You Cant make a movie about shitty B list Avengers, while Shitty B list Xmen Are on the same tier as the A list Avengers.
>>83488349
X-Force will be better than whatever the MCU puts out that year
Saw the movie yesterday, not great but it wasent terrible ither. Fucking loved blue-lips, its fucking rare to have a bad guy not go compleately balls to the wall pants on head retarded 'RAR IM ANGRY NOW RAGE' around fucking mid-way through.
Fucking loved nightcrawler and quicksilver in it but felt alittle cheated when only magnito and I guess storm where the only bad guys that got some form of development out of some quick pass-bys.
>>83488376
>>83488349
Does Fox pay you well to shill their shitty movies here?
>>83488458
Prove that point wrong. Sounds like you know im right.
>>83488348
You, I like. I employ you. Come here at the office on monday 7.00 am
Maybe I'm easily entertained, but I thought the movie was great. On par with the original Avengers. Whatever.
>>83487489
>And frankly, I wonder how different the mall cut would be reviewed?
I feel like if they had kept the Mall scene and cut the Weapon X stuff then it would have been better received. The Mall scene would of helped the audience grow more attached to the X-kids.
And while having the X-Kids ending up meeting Weapon X Wolverine sounds like a cool concept, there were just too much stuff going on.
Biggest problem of the movie. Too many things going on ad doesn't do a good job balancing them.
>>83483660
>>83483571
She's hot and all that, but I can't stand her
>>83488699
I wonder if they learn something from that mistake
>>83488778
she had a nice boobshot early in the movie.
I can lie that I hate her, but muh dick, he played different tune. Still, Fuck JLaw, yup. fuck her
>>83488690
Avengers was the result of careful planning.
I mean X-Men Apocalypse was random, you had old cast saying goodbye, and new cast saying how are you maggot?
anyway, I already made my piece in mind.
The only movies I will enjoy are not the ones made by MCU. Now, I became a contrarian.
There is nothing you can do, to save me from myself. Ha ha, I'm laughing and crying at the same time. I hate my life
>>83488690
>Maybe I'm easily entertained
Yes, yes you are. Also you have shit-taste. Sorry you had to find out this way, f am
>>83488690
Yeah, Other than whiny nitpicks that I wouldn't think about unless someone else brought it up I liked it a lot.
Maybe I'm just happy MY mutant is the best mutant.
>>83488903
but if he is easily entertained, wouldn't it explain why he likes mcu movies?
I want to build a wall, like anyone else, but sometimes, you have to go full americo
>>83488494
Anyone who actually believes "Fox wins" in any sort of situation in the current environment where Apoc failed and Fant4stic is in their hole is just retarded. "Fox wins" is something you could say in 2010, not 2016.
They most certainly have Deadpool as a factor but Foxshills don't like to count that as an X-movie for some reason
>>83483487
>he wanted to make the X-Men SUPER SERIOUS and not goofy.
Messiah complex was pretty goofy, with the dead bebies and stuff. I mean, I think X-Men has to be a serious, at least a little bit.
>>83483487
Honey. There's enough AU's in the comics that you should be able to handle an AU movie.
>>83479479
Maybe the after credits scene means they're going to add in X-23.
>>83481465
>Hell I didnt even remember the Essex thing with Sinister
Like, that it's his name?
>>83480716
>So that shitty jab can also be applied to Singer's movie.
I honestly thought that before I thought of Last Stand. Because I try not to even think of Last Stand. Anyone who believes this is worse than that is not properly remembering one of the worst comic book movies ever made.
>>83484149
>X-Men Apocalypse, Batman v Superman, Trank's Fantastic Four, X-Men the Last Stand, Man of Steel, The Amazing Spider-Man 2.
Except for Apocalypse those are all bad.
>>83484172
I like Zemo, and I liked the Zemo they put in Civil War.
>>83484207
I did not care at all for his family and that plot line. It just seemed stale and unoriginal.
>>83490036
Apocalypse is shit, Singer
>>83489642
>Anyone who believes this is worse than that is not properly remembering one of the worst comic book movies ever made.
Last Stand sucked but it wasn't the worst comic book even made. It's not even the worst X-Men movie (that would be Origins).
The problem is that this film felt so disconnected from its cast. The movie tried to make Cyclops, Jean and Nightcrawler the new leads, but they barely felt like they were in it. They also had to blow so much time for Apocalypse finding the horsemen and then recruiting them. It felt like a lot of buildup for a payoff that was just Apocalypse walking around and not getting hurt.
I didn't hate the film, and somewhat enjoyed it, but for what was supposed to be the Thanos level threat of the X-Men, it felt like a fizzle.
I think the other big problem is that it redoes scenes we've already seen and it came off as very boring. Cyclops gets his powers again. Wolverine at Weapon X again. Did anyone care about Jean going Phoenix? It just felt like "Here we go again"
It was also very weird to see the post credits scene and thinking to myself "Are we just gonna have more X-Men breaking shit in a greyish blue facility again?"
>>83490879
This should have been 2 movies
>>83490655
Last Stand's main problem was that it was a mediocre followup to a great movie. On its own, it's not HORRIBLE, just not especially good.
>>83490922
Or at least do another film of a threat that isn't Apocalypse. They should have at least set up their new cast first then Apocalypse. Cause we spent this overlong film not getting really attached to these new characters and all this buildup for Apocalypse that was really wasted when he just walks around and nobody could hurt him til Phoenix Ex Machina.
Oh, and fuck wasting so much time with that Wolverine shit. It was so unnecessary.
>>83480011
It was literally a hack job. Every X-film has been, really. Fox and Bryan Singer care fuck all for simple continuity and logic. I hope this piece of shit dies quickly.
>It still has a higher score than Warcraft
wew.
>>83485170
Great. You've got only the X-Men characters to play with. Who's he obsessed with absorbing?
Remember, he's already composed of and more powerful than the two most powerful living mutants. Whoever you bring in has to be established as being that powerful in a naturalistic way that doesn't immediately mark them out to the audience as a McGuffin.
I can't help but feel that the end of this film is the feeling I'll get from Infinity Wars Part II. I know Paco Lips just appears on the scene, but way back when the X-Men films started, I always was hyped for him just cause he's the be all, end all X-Men villain. And now that they done it, I can't help but think "Now what?" I'm kind of perplex where they will go now and it doesn't seem like FOX even knows.
what a sad world we live in where Rotten Tomatoes has now become the metric used by /co/ and /tv/ to decide which movie is good or not
>>83483571
It made sense from a story perspective for young mutants to look up to her
But still please no more I'm so sick of Mystique
And I used to love her in Xmen and X2
>>83491108
Continuity went out the window when the end of DOFP had Mystique, posing as Striker save Wolverine, and then we just go to Striker having Wolverine. This was the same director and two years apart. There is absolutely no reason to do a stinger like that and then just abandon it.
>>83491216
okay, question
I'm not insane for liking Our Idiot Brother so much that it's one of my favorite movies right?
how can this movie get such a low rating?
>>83491241
>And I used to love her in Xmen and X2
Maybe because she was a more likable actress.
>XMCU
how can you make this work if we're in phase 3 now?
super secret mutant nation more secluded than Wakanda?
I just got back home from seeing this. I thought it was really good. Wtf this whole thing feels like a joke now.
>>83491292
One of my favorite things I heard a director say (I don't remember her name)
"If you make a film/play that is universally love, you just gave people what they already wanted. But if you get a play that is actually polarized on whether people like it or hate it, that means you hit something that connected more with people and has a deeper meaning to some while it just wasn't for others"
Also, I love the John Carter film and it surprised me so much how much people hated it.
>>83491216
I agree with you, but Apocalypse was still garbage.
>>83488903
Fuck off
>>83490879
Yeah I noticed the movie winds up 3 different pitches and has a bitch trying to make any of them travel.
We've got Mags, Mystique and Beast struggling with giving up but also clearly wanting to give in. Which they just keep wrestling with until the last minute and it doesn't feel all that relevant by then.
We've got Scott, Jean and Kurt trying to overcome the doubt in themselves, but again amidst the fuss of everything else going on it doesn't seem significant when they're doing things that should be developing. Jean especially takes for fucking ever to just help Charles something made particularly more annoying when you see how easily she manages and handles it leading me to only receive the impression Charles struggled and suffered pointlessly. I mean she helps Logan immediately who she doesn't know, what the hell was she waiting for to assist Charles when the fate of the world rested on it?
Anyway then there's Good Morning, who as said spends most of the movie rapidly but also slowly gathering useless individuals we don't really learn anything about short of the first Storm and the last Magneto both of who only really heel face at the last second, and this is the third time for Erik so who even cares.
What's funny is none of these ideas are bad, the problem is the movie tries to pace the pitches such that they appear to happen at the same speed and that's where things start to look odd in relation because there's a connected story occurring but things within appear to either be happening too quick or too slow to retain their impact. For example the scene of the Horse-Force and Pocky Lips chilling on a rock, chatting with Charles, surveying where he's going to setup his house and broadcasting a rather pointless message while the kids are trying to free the others from Weapon X. Some of this stuff could and should have been cut.
>>83491344
X-Men can't work in the MCU. You'd have to have Xavier and Magneto being in their 90's cause WWII, and having Mutants be secret so long will not work. Magneto probably can't work as Scarlet Witch's father at some point either.
The other big problem with bring the X-Men to the MCU is what stories are there left to tell? We've had 3 films vs. Magneto, a few about Wolverine's past, one with Wolverine in Japan, DOFP, Apocalypse, and other stuff here and there. You can't just redo these stories and go "Oh look, Iron Man is here" and expect the same magic.
I'd say that at least til post Infinity Wars Marvel is settled, then decide how mutants would fit.
>>83491315
Yeah maybe. Her fight scenes were always cool looking and credit to DOFP for including some of that.
And they added a voice mod to her voice that they forgot about during FC, DOFP and Here.
Probably so JLaw's acting could get across more clearly (even though her acting is an equal step from Milla as Alice in RE movies)
>>83491439
>I mean she helps Logan immediately who she doesn't know, what the hell was she waiting for to assist Charles when the fate of the world rested on it?
That is a great point.
>>83491540
Do you mean during the Phoenix scene?
Maybe she was having trouble unlocking that power consciously
>>83491439
The other major problem is that they want Apocalypse to be a threat, but he couldn't kill any of the characters. They just introduced the three new kids, QS was too popular, and Magneto and Xavier were the base of this new X-Men trilogy. They wanted Paco Lips to be a threat, but he couldn't do anything to really damage the characters. At most, he breaks Pietro's leg and arm, but that's it. He does nothing beyond that to the heroes. Couldn't even fucking kill Mystique.
>>83491658
His name's not Pietro he's not a garbage character from AoU
>>83491291
Agreed. But as a fan of the X-Series, I feel like Singer and Fox have just absolutely hacked the source material to death.
First X-Men film Jean Gray was obviously 10 years older and a foot taller than Cyclops. Who cast this shit? Fox & Singer giving zero fucks.
Now Scott & Jean are the same age. Havok is 20 something in 64, but he has a teen brother in 83? X:Origins Deadpool? Two completely different Sabertooths. Two completely different Angels. It goes on and on,... Fuck them
>>83482537
I think they're setting up UXF pretty hard, considering we have pyslocke, and archangel as horsemen and deadpool in the universe. And who knows, with deadpool being good, maybe it even gets an r rating.
A more interesting story would have setting up the world destroy part in the second act. Apocalypse escapes.
Third act culminating in manhunt for Magneto & a big three way showdown between U.S. militarized Mutants, Apocalypse and the X-Men @ the Mansion. Insert QS scene here.
>>83484593
X-Men were the face of Marvel for a long time, the franchise just has something that people relate to. If the property was being used correctly, it would be an even bigger hit. The mainstream only cared about Cap/Thor/Ironman because Marvel Studios did a great job with them in the movies. There's a reason Marvel sold the rights to Spider-man and X-men when they were in trouble, and it's not because they didn't think they were important.
>>83493913
>There's a reason Marvel sold the rights to Spider-man and X-men when they were in trouble
Why do people keep repeating this? Marvel didn't sell the movie rights because of financial problems. Most of their properties had their licensing rights sold before Marvel's money troubles, in some cases decades before. There was nothing unusual about this because that's how licensed movies are normally made. Even a lot of the current Marvel Studios properties had their film and TV rights owned by someone else at some point.
>>83494931
Seriously. Selling the rights is how business is normally done. The only thing that's abnormal about what Marvel's doing is that they ended up starting their own production company and making movies in-house (which they were only able to do thanks to the massive profits from Spider-man and X-Men movies).
That's another thing that keeps getting repeated- the idea that Marvel doesn't profit from Fox or Sony movies. They definitely still get a share of the revenue. It's not going to be as much as anything produced in-house obviously, but it's nothing to sneeze at either.
>>83483252
Woo Goldar. I'm so scared.
>>83491658
I said this ever since the first trailer for Apoc.
Apoc literally cannot win in this movie because we know that everything turns out okay in the corrected timeline shown in DoFP so I was kind of going into it thinking "well this isn't really gonna have much stakes is it"
>>83491216
How else can people pour fuel on the company wars fire?
>>83491292
Hey, I like Crystal Skull, and apparently most critics did as well, but most people sure as hell didn't.
People want Disney to own even more stuff.
God, Americans are fucking stupid
>>83498173
I can't tell sometimes if it's bait or genuine want. But sometimes I run into posters that really REALLY want Disney to own everything.
>>83498316
Oh the majority of them are very serious.
Americans love monopolies and dynasties. It's kind of ironic.
>>83498563
From my experience the "REVERT TO MARVEL HURR DURR!" is just shitposting to keep X Men threads going. Most are fine with the separate universes. The Fantastic Four on the other hand, are still sought after
>>83485187
>And good costumes for the X-Men
>Marvel studios
>good costumes
You lost me, coach
>>83484645
Remember when Roger Ebert basically spaced out watching Thor and then wrote a review as though he hadn't, even though it would be obvious to anyone who actually watched the movie?
How about when he got really fascinated with the Watchmen movie?
Or his inexplicable distrust of new media?
Roger Ebert honestly wasn't the best.
>>83498679
Maybe they were good movies? & you honestly have trust & faith with new media?
>>83481538
What in the world is happening here?
>>83499137
I'm talking about his dumb essays on video games.
>>83497044
Speaking of I wonder if the new power rangers will have Goldar, Baboo, Finster & the gang
>>83498316
If it's in a TMNT, Suicide Squad, Power Rangers
Basically any movie that does poorly in box office or ratings assume it's bait.
>>83478958
Hey can still be together if they make the x force
>>83480431
Agreed. Had problems but nothing as bad as BvS. Certainly not worse than X3 or Origins. Overall it was alright. Though Jean kind of sucked at times, and those classic costumes were... poorly designed. Get the Deadpool dude to redo those and we could finally have some cool looking, comic accurate suits.
