So is this worth a read or is it filled with left wing propaganda? I want to really get into a CA book.
>>83358908
it's left wing propaganda
>>83358908
Left wing propaganda
>>83358908
Where did you hear it was left wing in any sort of fashion?
>>83358908
no propaganda at all, mein friend
>>83358908
Just remember, Anon. If are anti-immigration the you're a follower of a nazi superhero.
>>83359096
what if we're pro-immigration but want it regulated and only want legals to have any rights while illegals have none and cant complain at all about what happens to them?
>>83358908
read cap vol 3.
This is the first Captain America image with left-wing propaganda
>>83358908
>it's a modern marvel book
Guess
>>83359197
Sounds pretty nazi to me.
#Obenallborders!
It's neither left- nor right-wing.
Cap doesn't even have wings on his helmet.
Why does everyone act like there's just one Cap
>>83359096
Wasn't the point of that page to show how bad guys can use legitimate issues to inspire extremism?
>>83359212
National SOCIALISM is not right wing.
>>83359337
Because there is. Thats Falcon.
> I want to really get into a CA book.
just read Brubaker's run, senpai
>>83359367
You're giving the writer way too much credit if you think that's case.
>>83358908
>>83359018
>american stuff
>left
kek
>>83359571
And you sound like you're being overly cynical because you want something to whine and bitch about.
>>83359212
Im see Capitalist propaganda. A capitalist right wing soldier attacking a left wing politician that didnt do anything wrong at that point, aside from the night of the long blades
>>83358908
It'll basically brain-wash you into voting for Bernie. Like, just, wow. How could they get away with this blatant SJW pandering garbage. I can't believe they literally called Trump Hitler. Those bastards.It's one issue. Just fucking pirate the first issue and decide for yourself. If you like it, buy it. If you don't, who gives a fuck you didn't waste any money on it.
All that aside, Brubaker for some modern Cap and Gruenwald's Cap for something a bit more classic are both good ways to go.
>>83359607
I'm on /co/ am I not. What else would I do here?
>>83359444
Anon, please. His Falcon title was stolen by a Mexican.
>>83359410
I guess you think north Korea is a democratic Republic right?
>Americans talking about politics
>americans talking about right and left
xD
>>83358908
>So is this worth a read or is it filled with left wing propaganda?
It's written by Nick Spencer and published by Marvel, so that would be a big yes to the left wing propaganda question.
>>83359864
>xD
straight outta gaia
>>83359778
What happened, /co/?
>>83359760
>It'll basically brain-wash you into voting for Bernie
You've never seen Spencer twitter have you?
He supports hillary and thinks bernie is an NRA hack
>>83359882
Sometimes something can be good despite being propaganda. A lot of fantastic movies are explicitly propaganda.
>>83359958
>reading comic writers' twitters besides Hickman, Johns, and Steranko
The fuck are you doing?
>>83359958
>and thinks bernie is an NRA hack
pfffwhat?
>>83359963
Doesn't change the fact that it clearly has a heavy leftist slant. Which is what asked about.
>>83359997
I heard that Ellis' twitter was good too.
>>83359923
What has Obama got to do with anything?
Yes hillary would be considered right, so would Obama, Infact most of the western world thinks America has no left wing.
Also you've ignored the question.
>>83360087
The question wasnt direted at me.
>>83359997
In his defense, Spencer was an absolute madman on twitter about the Cap reveal.
>>83358908
How did Steve Rogers survive Civil War again?
>>83359087
Did you forget the whole "I'm a Nazi" thing? America personified=fascism is leftie as hell.
>>83360027
>>83360172
Hydra isnt nazi, and america is to the right of Fascism, neoliberalism is a far right ideology
>>83359958
Oh he is a Hillary shill. That's even worse.
>>83360217
Lmao, is he for real?
>>83358908
it's a nick spencer book, so there's gonna be tons of overwritten dialogue and leftist propaganda
>>83360382
i'm intrigued, what other examples are there of him pushing an agenda?
>>83358908
It's nothing but left-wing propaganda to an embarrassing degree. It's not even subtle with its political preaching.
>>83360165
>How did Steve Rogers survive Civil War again?
He beat up Iron man with help from his metallic friend. In the movie he just fucked off at the end to do things his own way and in the comic he realized the havoc he had caused and surrendered.
>>83360335
It's the worse thing you can be.
>>83360332
Hydra is a Nazi sub-group.
>>83360525
You don't say.
>>83360682
No it isnt. Hydra is a totalitarian group that has infiltrated and joined forced with several organizations including the nazi party
>>83360564
I think anon was asking how he survived the boom headshot at the end.
I think the explanation was "time bullet" and "he got better", think RIP Batman but poorly written.
>>83358908
If you want to read older Cap books, read vol 3 (Waid) otherwise read vol 7 (Remender). Captain America Steve Rogers has only been out for one issue so it's hard to tell if the series is going to be shit.
>>83361009
I thought the gun used to shoot him sent his soul somewhere in the universe or some shit, while his body appeared to be dead.
>>83361102
Was that it?
I pretty much dropped out of Marvel comics for a few years following Civil War.
>>83361009
>>83361102
That was after Civil War and I prefer to be a smartass. Crossbones was going to shoot a security member and Cap noticed, intercepting the bullet. Something so meager would not be enough to kill the Star Spangled Avenger, but his lover Sharon Carter, who was under mental conditioning by Dr. Faust, stepped forward and shot him with a special time gun, that replaced his body with a cheap clone and sent the real Captain America hurtling through his own history. He ended up on Normandy, at the White House, his mother's death bed, etc. before getting his bearings during the Kree-Skrull War and planting a coded memory in The Vision to alert the Avengers in the future.
The plan was for Dr. Doom (by way of Norman Osborne) to help the Red Skull, whose body was dead and was himself inhabiting a Zola drone, in order to retrieve Rogers' body from the time stream and allow the old Nazi to take it over. Stormin' Norman believed he was going to act as a revived Captain America to lend some credence to his terrible Avengers team, but more likely the Skull was going to get up to his own fascist plans. It all failed, Rogers reasserted dominance, Skull was put back in his robot body, which was enlarged accidentally by Sharon with some Pym particles, and the two Captain Americas (Steve and Bucky) destroyed it. The ensuing blast seared off Sin's skin, making her appear to have a Red Skull of her own. Legacy.
>>83360693
Man, Trump's spray on tan gets worse every time I see him.
>>83358908
>is it filled with left wing propaganda?
It's fucking Marvel. What do you think?
>>83358908
It was pretty great. Honestly I don't see how anyone can bitch about it after reading.
>>83359958
>spencer supports an actual criminal becoming president
Red Skull was right
>>83363992
>/pol/ on my /co/!?
Why are you so much against a female president.
>>83364330
Because in this case she's legitimately a criminal
>read a comic book
>america is the bad guy
>>83364363
That's something Drumpf supporters say. Don't believe them.
>>83364492
>see plain as day evidence that Hillary has committed criminal acts
>oh but you have to ignore it because "drumpf" supporters believe it
Have you considered taking your elections seriously?
>>83364364
Eh, is that really so out there? I mean we are in the real world too. Just look at all the people voting for Trump.
>>83364330
>>83364492
Bernouts also believe that she is a criminal. As do those tinfoil hat wearers in the Justice Department and Federal Bureau of Investigations.
>>83364577
Go back to /r/mensrights you neanderthal. We both know it's smear campaign. You provide proof, go ahead I'll be waiting.
>>83364599
Those people hate America. They want to shift blame onto someone else like a god damn European would.
Can someone storytime it please? I missed the initial ones.
I do want to know why everyone is so up in arms about this, its obviously a fake out
>>83364797
literally just google read captain america 1
>>83360457
His Captain America: Sam Wilson is a very political book. He fights villains disguised as minutemen style border patrollers. The big bad of an arc declares that they will "Make America Marvelous". It's very much a left leaning book in general. That doesn't make it bad though. The lackluster writing and unoriginal plots make it bad.
>>83359323
Kek, he looks exactly like Ultimate Cap.
>>83359212
You can be right wing and hate Hitler.
>>83364797
Normies are up in arms because they've never read a comic book, /co/ is up in arms at normies for having never read a comic book, then normies are up in arms at people being up in arms at them for being up in arms about a comic book, then /co/ are up in arms about normies being up in arms about them being up in arms about normies being up in arms, etc etc.
Its an endless cycle of pointless rage
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>>83364872
Isn't it also the book where Sam protects illegal immigrants.
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>>83359367
Most of /co/ isn't on that reading level yet. Which is why so many agreed with red skull without understanding what he was really about
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>>83365080
Next page was posted here >>83360693
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>>83365012
yup, that's part of the whole minutemen issue
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>>83365355
reminder that this book's worst offense is its treatment of Zemo
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>>83365379
>reminder that this book's worst offense is its treatment of Cobra Commander
FTFY
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>>83365031
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>>83365001
>>Sinclair
>>Sin
That's too thick. Unless her full name is an anagram.
>>83360682
Nah, /tv/. HYDRA predates Nazi-ism by hundreds of years.
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>>83365547
>>83365531
You say this is obvious and yet some people still believe this is a genuine "he was an undercover double agent this whole time" retcon
>>83365561
By the way, did the FCBD Cap story leave any hints? I wasn't able to pick it up.
>>83365574
Because those people don't read comics.
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>>83365374
When did Sharon Carter turn 60?
>>83365663
Remender's run
>>83365531
Sin's gone by Sinthea Shmidt and Erica Holstein. Elisa Sinclair isn't an anagram of either. Maybe Erica Holstein if there was no H or O
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>>83365178
National socialism is a third position. Hitler hated the west and the Soviet Union.
>>83365585
>even the supporting character can't believe this shit
>>83358908
>is it filled with left wing propaganda?
Since 1941.
>>83359197
I can understand wanting to deport illegals. But making them into virtual second class citizens is sketchy.
I mean...the government can't revoke your citizenship, right? Even if you commit a felony you're still entitled to a number of rights.
>>83359912
I don't know, Anon. I just don't know.
>>83365860
>I mean...the government can't revoke your citizenship, right? Even if you commit a felony you're still entitled to a number of rights.
According to Google, yes
>Membership in Subversive Groups: Your citizenship may be revoked if the U.S. government can prove that you joined a subversive organization within five years of becoming a naturalized citizen. Membership in such organizations is considered a violation of the oath of U.S. allegiance.
>>83365860
> Even if you commit a felony you're still entitled to a number of rights.
In theory, yes. In practice, it depends on the state you're in. Treatment of prisoners varies between states, and in some cases it is essentially just de facto slavery. Combined with long sentencing and a system that practically guarantees high recidivism, committing a felony is basically the end of most of your rights in some states.
>>83365947
>members of Hydra can have their citizenship revoked
God Bless America.
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>>83365947
>within five years of becoming a naturalized citizen
>>83365561
Wait they killed jack flag again? Without a resurrection? What is this up to three now
>>83366093
He just fell out of a plane...thing.
>>83366131
He doesn't have the power set to survive that, so unless he's caught here us dead on arrival
>>83366302
There are plenty of characters capable of saving a falling person.
