>new comics for your favorite character are shit
name em so we may pay our respects
>green lantern
>>83293208
>Harley Quinn
>Spider-man
Dan Slott will die some day and then I'll be free.
>>83293208
It hasn't been so bad since Venditti stopped trying to emulate Johns. Not great, but not terrible. I'm afraid rebirth will just have him back to square one though.
>>83295978
It's partially Slott's fault, but I also blame the current state of the company. Every character must either be Tony Stark, a woman, or have a Tumblr girl sidekick. They're not even trying to write Peter anymore.
>>83293208
>Tim
>Steph
>Cass
>Kate
I remember when I used to like the first three
>All 3 or your favorite characters have all literally walk out of the universe, an probably won't be brought back in until Marvel gets the rights back
But hey, maybe Legion's show will be bretty gud.
also
>no one has written Reed greatly since the mid 90's.
To be fair, I'm a total poser. My favorite character is Pak and Van Lente's Herc. Which apparently is an aberration in his characterization.
Iron Man.
Fantastic Four.
>Superman
And there are idiots celebrating Tomasi and Jurgens for some reason to just twist the knife, as if bringing the pre-Flashpoint version back will give us Busiek-Johns stories again.
>>83296694
I know how you feel, /co/ bro.... :'l
>>83293208
>>green lantern
same
>>83293208
Spider-Man
X-Men
Avengers
Green Lantern
>>83299760
>Iron Man.
Iron Man comics have ALWAYS sucked. Extremis is seen as some sort of high bar and it is mediocre. IM is just very involved in the MCU and every Team book, but he fucking sucks on his own. Superior Iron Man and Hickman IM was the only time the character went through an interesting story, and they are still really poor stories.
>But Civil War
People don't read IM to know Tony went through a slightly better retcon than OMD after that which was sitll completely retarded. If you do bother to read IM you have now realized actual Tony might as well be a clone or some shit.
>>83293208
>favorite characters don't even have books anymore
It's just as well. They would have been ruined anyway.
>>83299892
Nu52 Action Comics, Johns Supes were totally based.
I also liked most of Supes including Truth and Alienation. Super Hobo was a cool dude, and it made Supes relatable again.
>Missing shit like Grounded
Good Lord my man, do you even read comics? Where were you when the New Kryton Saga ended?
>Well shit it has been fun but I have to KILL EVERYONE AND UNDO EVERYTHING for the next story Arc by another writer.
Seriously all in all Nu52 was great for Supes. 2011 onwards was very kind on the character, and that is including Injustice and BvsS.
>>83300835
>Iron Man comics have ALWAYS sucked.
Fuck off
>Extremis is seen as some sort of high bar and it is mediocre.
No it fucking isn't
>IM is just very involved in the MCU
newfag pls go, some people knew who Iron Man was before 2007.
>and every Team book, but he fucking sucks on his own.
No he doesn't, read Superior Iron Man (the old volume) adn the Iron Man volume right after that.
> Superior Iron Man and Hickman IM was the only time the character went through an interesting story,
Nope, fuck off
>and they are still really poor stories.
They were okay-ish.
>>But Civil War
I NEVER MENTIONED CIVIL WAR YOU *€\>!\*>?.!.*~€{€€\+]++[!
>People don't read IM to know Tony went through a slightly better retcon than OMD after that which was sitll completely retarded. If you do bother to read IM you have now realized actual Tony might as well be a clone or some shit
No, he just got the extremis out. Nothing else.
>Wolverine
>>83293208
>>83300669
Yep.
>Green Lantern
>>83296863
I wouldn't say an aberration so much as an exaggeration. I don't think he was ever really out of character so much as he was a bit more himself than usual. I think Pak Herc is still ultimately true to the character.
>>83300986
Yeah I think the crossovers were the main problem for new 52 Superman especially during Pak's run. They are pretty much all bad. The most decent one was Doomed and it really could have just been a normal arc. He had some good stuff between them though.
But I don't think I mind a return to pre-Flashpoint status quo, just can't applaud what we're actually getting. It looks like shit outside of the fringe books.
>>83301025
>No, he just got the extremis out. Nothing else.
He rebooted his brain. Tony doesn't even remember Civil War. This is how he gets a pass for all the shady bullshit he did.
Nu52 Deathstroke
I wish I could unread things.
And it don't stop...
>>83301372
Hey you got Priest coming up so that's good
>>83295978
Spider-Man and Deadpool dude, Deadpool aside, Kelly actually makes Tony Parker a decent enough character, and spins pure fucking gold with deadpool after all the annoying shit he's been in lately. I highly recomend this
>>83301601
What is this, and why was someone paid for it?
>>83301372
First eight issues were bretty gud, then they decided to bring in Liefeld for some godforsaken reason.
>>83301729
Secret Six, by Gail Simone and Dale Eaglesham.
She could at least have given her a cool coat like last time...
>No news on MM
His Nu52 series was actually pretty interesting too. Loved the part where he actually BTFO the whole Justice League with his psychic powers.
>Starfire
The Teen Titans cartoons have fucked this character up beyond repair for me, she used to be my favorite Titan too.
do I win this thread
>>83293208
Thor
>Steve Rogers - Captain America
Has just potentially been given the most horrific retcon in the history of comics and may be a nazi while the Red Skull while still portrayed as the villain said NOTHING morally fucking wrong in the first issue.
>Thor
Possibly still unworthy & Chained out in space and is replaced by a mary sue from hell. (And I say that as someone who likes Fem Thor more then most people)
>Ares
Been dead for years is in Contest of Champions but probably won't survive or return to life afterwards.
>Zarda
The JMS version which is my fav is dead.
Sinister is still about but is in a generic non sexy outfit compared to the one she had in the Secret War mini and is cursed to be drawn by Leonard Kirk a very poor man's Stuart Immonen.
>Aquaman & Mera
Are doing good, getting married.
Brad Walker the artist on their reboot is very meh.
>Martian Manhunter
Doing good just finished a solid series.
>Kate Kane - Batwoman
Doing Ok will be part of a team book after Rebirth with a solid artist (eddy barrows)
>Alistair Smythe
Dead
>Lizard
No idea. His status quo at the end of shed should have been left intact.
>Wonder Woman
Looks to have a phenomenal reboot & a decent movie.
>>83301911
Spiderman is still my favorite character, but what they've done to EVERYONE shown in that picture hurts my heart even more than Slott's shitshow has.
>>83295978
I know your pain, bro. P&C are doing the same kind of damage to Harley as Slott has been doing to Spidey. And I don't see P&C leaving Harley in the nearest future, just like Slott
>>83299892
I'm looking forward to Jurgens. Convergence and Lois & Clark were great. Jury's out on Tomasi, but I'll give him a shot.
And yes, the last half decade has been rough for Superman. It blows my fucking mind that we're so starved for quality Superman comics that people actually think Pak's run is anything beyond mediocre.
What the fuck did Pak even do with the character, other than repeat the endless cycle of
step 1: fail at doing something -> step 2: brood about said failure -> see step 1?
>>83299892
Worth it for Patrick Gleason doing awesome horror shit in the art for a Superman book.
>>83300835
>Superior Iron Man and Hickman IM was the only time the character went through an interesting story
Haunted dumbfuck.
>>83301372
The God killer arc was fucking great.
>>83302031
>Lizard
Last thing I remember was Lizard stuck in Curt's body, figuring out that there are things that he actually likes about being an ape, like video games, that ended with Curt's mind in Lizard's body keeping himself locked away in prison. More recently, I believe he appeared in ASM when Might-Be-Mephestio showed up with his resurrected wife and son.
I want a Thunderbolts team that has Lizard as its budget Hulk/Banner, the closest we ever got to that was in the animated series from the 90s, the big Secret Wars crossover, Lizard was on Spidey's team, with Curt's brain
>>83302059
Gave is the awesome Lovecraft horror stuff and gave us Kuder.
>>83295978
Yeah I have to go with this one. I will never understand the decision "Hey lets make Parker Tony Stark and do the bodyguard lie".
>>83293208
>Cap
>>83302059
Pak made the ASS girl canon
>>83302158
>I want a Thunderbolts team that has Lizard as its budget Hulk/Banner,
Dude... it's like your in my mind right now.
As long as it's a Thunderbolts book with a much better artist then the garbage on it right now.
>>83293208
Anyone with...who once had boobs.
X-Men were never good.
>B-BUT MUH CLAREMONT/MORRISON/WHEDON
Their comics are as bad as Chuck Austen.
>>83302237
To be totally fair, it's not even a bad idea. Parker going full SCIENCE! and starting his own business would be awesome with literally any other writer in the world.
Richard "Dick" Rider Nova was my favorite Super Hero ever since Annihilation Wave....
>Fantastic Four no longer exist and taboo
>Thor replaced by fucking Jane of all people
>Cap was aged and replaced
>Banner no longer Hulk
>Spidey forever in the clutches of Slott
I gave up on Marvel all together. It had slowly been getting shittier over the years with terrible events and stories, but I officially had enough when the Fantastic Four was cancelled. The rest was just salt on the wound. I'm no longer they're target audience it seems, and I couldn't care less any more.
Been enjoying DC much more for my superhero fix anyway, even if the GL books haven't had a good run in ages. I'm hoping Humphries defies all odds and gives us a good book.
But yeah, fuck Marvel.And fuck getting banned for a day every time I bad mouth Marvel and call out their delusional drones. Fuck off Bendisfag
>>83293208
I have no favorite character and this is why.
I just lose interest.
>>83302438
Its a weird time when the Marvel movies are better than current comics
Green Arrow
I know this is price to pay for not having a definitive rogue's gallery but it still hurts
>>83302517
Not really. The movies involve up to BILLIONS of dollars possibly and they're going to work for getting the best of the best.
Meanwhile comics allow this shit to pass.
>Guy Gardner
Dude's never going to get top billing for anything, but Red Lanterns was pretty good and that's the most he's gotten in years. I'll take it.
>>83302600
I want a "Absorbing Man Was Right" T Shirt. Because I love how he points out the bullshit of Jane taking Thors name and the writer tries to flip circumvent it because hes a villain
Is it worse to get shit comics, or no comics at all?
>>83302694
Reminds me of that Red Skull thing going on right now.
And god bless that image.
>>83302702
Better no comics. But isin't he getting a Rebirth series? Super hyped for it.
>>83302702
Shazzy's stuff has been consistently great.
>>83302702
Shit comics are worse because they can damage the brand or create fans who like the shit version over the good one and pressure future creators to do stuff in the vein of the shit version.
>>83302766
This
>>83302702
At least what little Billy did in the New52 was decent
>>83293208
>You're interested in a character who've never had an outstanding story
Name em so we may pay our respects
>Black Panther
>>83302760
I mean yeah, I guess I can't bitch all that much. Captain Marvel books have trickled out here and there, but everything that has come out has been 10/10.
>New 52 Shazam
>Thunderworld
>Convergence
>>83302766
Or even forever kill off the old good version like with Nova.
>>83302817
And Harley...Harley had good stuff too
>>83302517
Yeah, but gotta remember they're the reason the comics are in such shit condition to begin with.
Won't deny they were in a slump before all the popularity happened, but damn their impact is far too noticeable to deny.
The Flash has been garbage since New 52 started, but at least it was pretty in the beginning. I'm slightly optimistic for the Rebirth series, but it's going to be another evil speedster arc and I don't know if I can stomach the fourth one in two years.
Do characters who don't have their own runs count?
Marvel's treatment of Phil Urich is just terrible.
>take a likable teenage hero who's unique in being the only non-villainous Goblin and has potential for growth
>make him one-dimensional crazyevil bad guy who eventually becomes a butt of all jokes
On that note, I understand what you Black Cat fans are going through because of Slott. We should stick together.
>>83302799
I like him but I've only read his origin and that's it.
>>83302881
And by "don't have their own runs" I mean currently. Should've specified that.
>>83295978
>CEO of company named after his last name
>Bodyguard is a superhero thats actually you
>Use company resources to create stuff for the superhero
Hes literally Tony Stark.
My only hope is that after Civil War 2, we get Dark Reign 2 with SHEILD being replaced by Parker Industries. Black Cat takes control of the company through the board of directors and essentially the director of new SHEILD/HAMMER.
>>83302710
>Reminds me of that Red Skull thing going on right now.
I do not understand why that page is triggering /co/ so hard, who gives a flying faggoty fuck?
Red Robin... Rebirth could fix it right guys? Guys?
>>83302907
Peter should have been a science teacher. And the MJ thing with Stark is still weird, how long before that ends?
>>83301807
Well you're in the wrong thread then as the last new comic MM got was great
>>83295915
But the thing is, they've always been shit.
>>83303022
yea but I don't think he's getting anything else, is he?
>>83302834
Name one good thing
>>83303046
>Sirens
>Harley first solo
>Harley & Ivy
>Shit
Nah m8. Those stuff were great
>>83302851
At least it will only last 3 months thanks to double shipping
>>83302059
>Convergence and Lois & Clark were great
kek
KEK
K E K
VenomLoved most of Agent Venom.
>>83302438
>>Banner no longer Hulk
Hulk hasn't been consistently good since before I was born
There have been only two good Hulk runs in my lifetime
>>83301372
>complaining about Christoper priest
Nigga, count your blessings.
>>83295978
i feel your pain brah
>>83296694
>implying Hickman didn't write a great Reed
>>83302253
No he didn't. He took the names of two different girls Superman has saved in older comics and gave it to that girl. She's not actually teh ASS girl. It was just a reference.
>>83303321
I was never a fan of the Doc Ock swap. Suit was nice though
>>83301773
What is classic Shiva reading anyway? O'Neil's Question, obviously, but what else?
>>83302659
I still find it humorous that in his only solo series to date, he wasn't even a GL.
>>83302517
Tbf, I'd take Vision over any MCU movie. They have higher highs, but much lower lows, and the highs are getting rarer.
>>83302799
>Black Panther never had an outstanding story
But he did.
>>83303000
It's Tynion. He's not going to be writing Tim any differently than before.
>>83303423
That's it. JudgeAnon's just a waifufag.
>>83293208
I LOVE YOU, CONAN
>>83293208
Marvel Babies
>>83293208Red Hood and Outlaws. Go away Lobdell.
>>83302881I once worth a Spider-Man and Batman crossover Fanfic where Joker got hospitalized so Phil became the new Poser Joker and would kill people with his laugh.
I fucking love this guy as Hobgoblin though, so fucking badass.
>>83293208
Hal's book will probably suck, Miracle and Barda won't have book, Aquaman will be decent, Cyke is dead, Emma probably plays pretend family with his bodynot that I want them back in current state of Marvel, Hawks aren't shown in Rebirth...
>>83303497
Which one?
You gotta vote with your money. If you don't agree with the direction then don't buy, and pirate.
>>83293208
Deadpool since Way fucked everything up.
>>83303637
Priest's run.
>>83303669
Nigga, Kelly is doing 10/10 work with Deadpool right now see >>83301708 and pic related
Cyclops
Is always right. Yet is treated like shit
>>83302069
him collaborating with Tomasi has me excited.
B+R gave me good feels.
I'm personally hoping Gleason is allowed to do a couple issues on his own, since I enjoyed his lone work on Robin SoB.
>>83303669
>Way
Nigga read Duggan and Poeshen's run. Christ how can you be so out of the loop?
>>83293208
Deadpool marries a daemon
Deadpoolwritten by super hax
Deadpool and Spiderman... I wanted to see Joe Kelly do deadpoolonce more but this just feels like a fucking spiderman book guest starring deadpool.
>>83303803
I love deadpool by kelly but I hate when they do all this "Married a daemon" bullshit. Why does marvel have a hard on with fucking daemons? If I complain to disney that joe quesada has a satanic hard on, will they fire him and put the leash on disney?
>>83303879
>I hate when they do all this "Married a daemon" bullshit.
What the fuck are you even talking about?
>>83303835
Duggan and Poeshen'... literally made him marry a daemon and shit.
All I ever wanted was to see joe kelly do more deadpool and conclude the shit that he left hanging in his 90's run.
Now we have dugaanpoeshern shit all over the dancing floor.
Disgusting.
Also the fact that they didnt reference Kelly in the movie, was blasphemy. He made deadpool famous in the first place.
>>83303911
>>83303879
>>83303843
You have some serious autism mane. Get that checked out.
>>83303944
>says autism
>still reads popcorn and coca-cola comics
>likes duggan and poshen
Yep you are the autist alright.
>>83303843
>>83303879
>>83303911
Lol what the fuck
>>83303905
Didnt they make Deadpool marry some fucking succubus? the one from this pic.
>>83303803
wtf was this bullshit? I aint keeping with the actual comics because they are usually filled by trash writters.
>>83304039
>>83304039
>popcorn and coca-cola comics
Which are...?
>>83304053
>Didnt they make Deadpool marry some fucking succubus? the one from this pic.
Yeah. So?
>>83304043
>>83303944
>>83303905
Samefagg detected.
>>83304091
I'm only the bottom two. What's your point exactly?
>>83304080
So..
> Why does marvel have a hard on with fucking daemons?
If I complain to disney that joe quesada has a satanic hard on, will they fire him and put the leash on disney?
This, they could just use the characters from his background or actually build interesting relationships and such, but no. They just make retarded pairing bullshit.
>>83304061
Coca cola and popcorn is trash food, therefore it's trash comics.
You are consuming trash.
>Silver Surfer
Delegated to being boyfriend to some nobody hipster. I've put up with a lot of shit in fiction but this burns me up.
>>83304113
You clearly haven't read the comic so you're in no position to critique it.
>>83304146
>/co/
>ever reading comics they'll critique
Had a bad run recently but things are looking good for my boy
>>83304053
>Joe Kelly
>Trash Writer
Hold the Fucking shot bus, what the actual fuck? Kelly is an amazing comic writer man.
>>83304189
What ever happened to AquaMilf?
>>83304209
Looks like it's dropped.
>>83304209
She stayed on her island because Parker's run was over
>>83304146
>Implying I have no right to critique because I havent been consuming your trash.
>Implying I cant keep up by other ways.
You are the reason of why comics are so shit in the first place. Fucking trash.
>>83304208
Please show sentence where I said kelly was trashwritter.
Way to put words on my mouth you fucking imbecile!
Joe Kelly IT'S A FUCKING GOD! HE MADE DEADPOOL INTO A CULT FAN FAVORITE.
Lefield and nicieza only drew and put it there but they do not posses the genius of the all mighty kelly!
>>83304309
I mean, you called something he wrote bullshit. You at least implied it.
>>83304309
>Implying I have no right to critique because I havent been consuming your trash.
Yes that is exactly what I'm saying. I don't know where you got it in you to believe that everything you spew has value but it doesn't.
>didn't even read the rest of your post
>>83300835
>Iron Man comics have ALWAYS sucked. Extremis is seen as some sort of high bar and it is mediocre. IM is just very involved in the MCU and every Team book, but he fucking sucks on his own. Superior Iron Man and Hickman IM was the only time the character went through an interesting story, and they are still really poor stories.
Fraction's Iron Man was interesting. Head of SHIELD. King of dickery.
>>83304309
>wtf was this bullshit? I aint keeping with the actual comics because they are usually filled by trash writters.
What did he mean by this?
>turned X-23 from a stoic determined badass to le snarky sjw who gets butthurt about internet critics
why must these people take everything from me?
>>83304384
Oh shit man. This is actually something I'm really pissed about.
>>83295978
I'm a Silver Surfer man, and right there with you.
>>83304384
>mfw I've been enjoying this comic regardless
Take your pick on which face is mine, because they are both about the same
>>83304384
>But I'm not replacing him I don't know what I'm doing yet
Then why is she wearing his fucking costume? What kind of shitty excuse is this?
>>83304438
There must always be a Wolverine.
>>83304384
Too bad her ongoing won't last long enough for a creative team change. I wish Yost would come back and make everything ok.
>>83304331
I said that the new book of DP/Spidey sounded like a spiderman with deadpool as a guest. Lets all droll over spiderman.
And also including the new daemon wife bullshit!
Srsly, buy some fucking glasses or read more books because the constant shitty popcorn soda pop trash media that you consume its frying your brain.
>>83304370
That everything after joe kelly it's mostly trash. Which it is, these new writters are all terible hacks with no imagination and lack of human understanding.
>>83304574
>>83304597
My nephew has autism. I hope he doesn't grew up to be like you.
>>83304384
>comic wants you to think wolverine is some sort of mantle like captain america or batman that can be passed on and not just one man's personal codename as if dressing in yellow and stabbing people is some worldwide inspirational legend
>>83304619
What differentiates one stupid nickname/costume from another? Who cares?
>>83304574
Okay, I'm honestly not sure if you're even aware of the bullshit you're spewing, so I'll slow it down for you:
>>83303803
This guy posted a page from Spiderman/Deadpool, which, in case you are unaware, is written by your sacred cow Joe Kelly.
Then, in this reply: >>83304053 you first call the page (which, again, was written by Kelly) bullshit, then proceed to describe how you haven't read it, because modern comics are filled "by [sic] trash writers". Now, of course you didn't directly state it, but the context and your extremely poor phrasing makes it logical and simple to infer that you consider Joe Kelly one of these "trash writers".
>>83304617
>>83304644
for example the Sorcerer Supreme or the Ghost Rider are literal titles characters inherent
saying "I'm the wolverine now, I took over from the last one" is like saying "I'm the skrillex now, I took over from the last one"
it's not a mantle, it's an alias for one guy who's not a symbol of anything other than getting angry and knifing people
>>83304696
Alright, seems like you didnt get it, blockhead.
Yes! I know that comic is being written by Joe kelly and illustrated by Mr MC.
Nope Joe kelly is not a trash writter, but the trash that deadpool and spiderman have had for so many years has definitely dyied on them.
In this instance the fucking daemons, daemons everywhere. I sometimes wonder if Quesada has a fetiche for them or something. Seriously, I dont want my kids seeing their superheroes making pacts with evil beings from hell.
Disney has fucked things up for even less.
>>83304757
He's a symbol to her. Apparently.
>>83304787
>>83304787
Ok I'll bite what exactly is your problem with "daemons"?
>>83304384
Ye it was much better when she was constantly brooding and cutting herslef as if she was an emo.
>>83304862
She was.
>>83304787
>daemons everywhere
There's OMD (which, to be fair, was trash), Deadpool's marriage and what else, exactly? Also, like I said, I'm aware you like Kelly, but the way you phrased that post implied otherwise.
>>83304492
Yost isn't even writing for Marvel right now.
>>83305022
Which is why I said "come back"
>>83302438
>Fantastic Four no longer exist and taboo
I share your feelings /co/mrade, I feel great pain.
A-at least DC is getting good, I have the rest of Future quest and the accompanying HB books to look forward to. Plus rebirth seems great. But still, nothing can heal the wound marvel has left
>>83302702
It is better to get no comics whatsoever and let your favorites go unharmed
>>83301601
What the fuck am I reading?
>>83302799
Black Panther has a bunch of good comics. Read books from before the 2000s.
>>83303000
Kill him.
Erase his ass from existence.
Seriously, he's a dumb fucking Mary Sue who can't graduate beyond being Robin and who should have never been added.
Tim Drake is by far the most cancerous Robin.
>>83303255
Which I've always hated cause he's my favorite Avenger.
>>83303814
This.
Why is Cyclops always so right, my dudes?
>Hank Pym
>>83308141
Not a fan of Duggan?
>>83307778
Pleb-tier taste, anon.
>>83303423
O'Neil's Question has her best appearances, bar fucking none. There's also 70s OG Shiva way back in Richard Dragon: Kung Fu Fighter, which is loads of fun but kinda mindless.
And there's a few good bits in Batgirl (the Cassandra Cain volume) but then they tack in a few really shitty character developments and she runs off the rails pretty soon.
>>83308609
No. Would've preffered it in the hands of Remender. And even then both of them are likely to ignore Tigra and their son.
>>83293208
Star-Lord.
>>83304384
She was never good though. She was trapped in a perpetual cycle of TFW UR A WEAPON. Making her Wolverine is probably the best thing you could do to advance a stagnant character, shitty dialogue aside.
>>83295978
being Suffering-Man truly is suffering
