>Marvel thinks this is print-quality art
>Marvel thinks a book drawn like this is worth $4
>Marvel thinks negroes in comics can bring in cash
It's fun, really.
Maybe if it had an unique coloring style it would help. But yeah it's okay quality for a webcomic, but low tier acceptable even at that level. For print? Nah.
>>83247608
The near absence of backgrounds is more offensive than the wiggle noodle art style. That's just objectively lazy.
>>83247608
These profiles are fucking horrendous.
It's not that anyone cares about squirrel girl anyway
but there MUST be a couple interns who can do better shit than erica henderson for less money
I hadn't checked in for a while to see where things had gone. I'm convinced we're eventually going to see Lena Dunham as SG in all her potato glory.
How much does it cost relative to other comics with with more detail?
>>83247960
It costs the same, but Cho likely has a far larger cost per page rate.
>>83247847
Are you talking shit about my squirrelfu?
>>83247997
Wow, Erica, you could've just said you were lurking.
>>83247997
it costs more than any DC or Image release
certain marvel books are more expensive tho, like gwenpool or hydracap
>>83248000
Okay, so Squirrel Girl has less effort put into every page because it has a smaller readership because it puts less effort into every page. It's a vicious cycle.
>>83247960
I love Cho's She-Hulk.
>>83247608
art in this weeks Hellcat is giving SSG a run for their money.
does anyone know what Marvel is trying to accomplish with their girl books btw?
>>83247997
try to find a /co/ thread complaining about Pichelli
you wont. good artists, regardless of sex, don't get threads like this made about them
>>83247789
Even Paranatural has better looking monochrome backgrounds
>>83247960
One of the few quality drawn Marvel books left right now.
>>83247960
Why does the new Hulk look like a monster? I thought the only reason the Banner became monstrous was because he was fucked up in the head. Sane people like Jennifer Walters and Amadeus should just become taller and beefier versions of themselves.
>>83247997
There are many women that draw much better comics.
>>83247997
>If you criticize anything produced by a woman, it can only possibly because of her gender
>Women can't be held to the same critical standards as men
>Women don't deserve to be treated equally to men
Found the misogynist.
>>83248353
Amadeus WANTS to be a monster, so that's what he looks like, just like Thunderbolt Ross WANTED to be a monster.
>>83248353
amadeus isnt sane tho
>>83247960
The perspective and placement on the legs is really fucked up.
>>83248711
Really? Why? In what way?
>>83247608
Why doesn't she just date the guy she's sitting with?
>>83249068
Are you blind? One is black and one is white.
>>83249068
Alright, I'm just going to have to comment on this: can people really not tell she's female, or am I just missing out on the joke? The art's not pleasant, and that's putting it nicely, but that's obviously a woman.
>>83248991
he has severe survivors guilt over the stuff with his family and at one point during herc's he realized he was responsible for some of herc's failing due to enabling him into his old patterns which made him depressed
>>83248266
I think Gurihiru is doing a great job with Gwenpool.
>>83247608
Holy shit those are both chicks?
>>83249068
he is friendzoned and/or gay
think about it, the guys squirrel girl has fucked have been: Speedball, Wolverine, Daredevil and Thor
you cant just fuck a nobody after that
>>83247608
Why do they both have male haircuts?
Which is more important /co/, good art or good writing?
>inb4 both
I think good writing excuses poor art, good art rarely makes up for poor writing though.
I like squirrel girl, everybody i know who has read it likes it. It is funny, this is not a bad trait in a comic.
>inb4 edgelords demanding all should be 90's grimdark.
What think?
>>83249157
I didn't realize Squirrel Girl's pal was female until she called her Nancy and I looked at her shirt and chest.
>>83247608
Hahaha, oh fuck, this comic just keeps looking horrible. I'm not even into supers, let alone SG, but every single fucking time I just feel forced to look at these pages. It's like watching a trainwreck.
Literally every single person on /co/ could do better. I'm not even kidding. The best in this are the hands, and even they are rudimentary line-art with minimal colouring in order to convince you you're reading a finished product.
Tom fucking Preston is a better artist than this. And he's the guy who plateau'd after college and colours his comics with the fill tool.
>>83249157
>but that's obviously a woman.
No, it really isn't obvious at all.
>>83248353
Amadeus envies the Hulk and thinks that the Hulk is the greatest superhero of all time, which is why his hulk form looks like the Hulk.
>>83249157
As a general anatomical thing men have a bigger jaw/chin.
I'm not speaking of only about the dimorphism and exaggeration that comes with drawing, but in general mammal males have a bigger jaw/chin combo.
So yeah that girl looks like a man because she has a jaw the size of Texas.
>>83249242
no you're right
chipmunk hunk is totally one of those A-list heroes that isn't awful or boring or lame or uninspired or unknown in every single sense of the meaning
>>83249284
art is the first thing you notice
before you know if the writing will be your thing, art HAS the responsibility to keep you turning the page
i honestly haven't read this comic, the art completely turned me off of it
MMMMMMMMMaybe if it was by an author i already like i would be willing to power past the art. but its not
>>83249242
Speedball is kind of a nobody.
>>83249284
writing trumps art every time
because ultimately comics are just another vehicle for the story
if you wanted good art but didn't want to focus on a story, why wouldn't you just pick up painting
art is a nice reason to become interested in something, and if you don't care about the story feel free to look at the pretty pictures, but like most media, it's about the writing
>>83247608
Erica Henderson can draw TWO books a month! Unbeatable Squirrel Girl and Jughead! She's not doing Jughead anymore, but that's because she's doing a Squirrel Girl OGN due out in August!
>>83247608
>that author's comment
>>83249173
But, like, how does that compare to Banner?
>>83249157
>That's obviously a woman
Not really. I mean maybe if it was real life but EH's style ontop of being hideous is really simplistic. I wasn't sure if this was her roommate or a completely different black person.
Everyone seems to look really fucking similar.
>>83249157
I couldn't tell.
>>83249394
didnt he kill like 600 kids and cutting himself triggered his powers at some point?
thats pretty nice
>>83249451
>she's doing a Squirrel Girl OGN
i will buy it and periscope myself burning it
>>83247608
>>83249284
>the visual aspect of a visual medium is unimportant
I will never understand this attitude. If you like the comic, fair enough. But your reasoning is utterly alien to me. I can understand liking a comic despite bad art, or even despite bad writing. But to say it's not a bad trait? It very plainly is, if you ask me. It lessens the quality of the product.
>>83249535
Surely that will show them!
>>83249473
other than wanting to be him while maybe feeling sorry for him as per his own admission, it has never been developed WHY
>>83249157
She has a jawline that would make Crimson Chin jealous, smaller lips, no distinguishing feminine features since they're all hidden under a sweater, and really short hair. Yeah, I assumed they were a guy.
>>83247997
LOL, when somebody loves your shit, you're (your name.) But when somebody hates your shit, it's because you're "a woman."
Bullshit, sweetie.
>>83249284
It depends. Neither trumps the other.
Good art will typically be thought of as apart from shit writing. If the art is good enough then people will just post it out of context typically.
If the art is literally unreadable then it doesn't matter how good the writing is, you can't read it.
If it's readable but hideous, there's not much incentive to read it.
And I love funny books, too bad this isn't a funny book.
>>83249645
And it's not unusual for a black guy to wear a sweater. Black guys can wear anything and it looks cool.
>jealous white person who only looks good in certain colors/materials
>>83247608
>Nominated for TWO Eisner's
>>83249157
I swear that black dude looks like a dude to me. If it's a woman, she's got a very manly skull.
remember when squirrel girl was cute and awkward?
>>83247608
why is the dating website using the Cartoon Network logo
>>83249734
I'm just waiting for Erica to announce Nancy's trans
>>83249628
What I'm trying to say is that it doesn't seem like Amadeus's crazy doesn't compare to Banner's crazy.
That said Amadeus is still more or less Amadeus in hulk form unlike Banner, and I guess if Amadeus idolizes the original Hulk form then that might explain why he looks monsterous instead of a super sexy buff green human.
>>83249693
>And it's not unusual for a black guy to wear a sweater.
What're you talking about? That has nothing to do with the subject
>Black guys can wear anything and it looks cool.
>jealous white person who only looks good in certain colors/materials
Oh, you're retarded
>>83249568
Never said art was unimportant, just less important in my opinion.
My point is that SG really is funny, it pokes fun at comics without taking the piss, and is by far the most liked comic that i have tried to get newbies into.
I often try to get work mates etc into comics, and SG has made more people interested than any other i could mention.
Yep, art matters and this is below what should be expected but it kind of fits the writing style. Quirky and different, not too serious etc.
There are worse comics out there guys.
>>83249783
I don't see why they wouldn't. Black tranny is a two for one deal.
>>83249693
>>83249662
Isn't that a good thing though?
If people don't blame your lack of skills on you specifically and you still have the chance to become good, well known, and known for more than being just another female
And doesn't that actually make sense?
If your art is terrible and so is everything else about you, what would make you distinct from literally anyone who share traits with you, one of the major traits being your gender
I mean, if a dude was being a nondescript asshole, wouldn't people just say "ugh, men"
>>83249783
They already said she isn't, but one is.
>>83249840
>Yep, art matters and this is below what should be expected but it kind of fits the writing style. Quirky and different, not too serious etc.
look at slott's Silver Surfer's art
goofy/quirky and cartoony, yet very good looking
The Allreds have actually cultivated their style for almost 2 decades.
Cho's art in Hunk is completely on the goofy side, but that doesn't make him put less of an effort
Or look at Gwenpool's.
Erica simply isn't doing pro-level work and it hurts her product because some readers do care about visual part of the storytelling.
>>83249451
I could draw 3x that amount if I didn't care what it looked like or how well it sold.
>>83249840
I believe art should add something to the comic. If the art doesn't lift the work upward, then there is no purpose to it being there, aside from facilitating prose-free storytelling. Especially when it comes to sequential storytelling, where the art should be painting the narrative as much as the writing.
And SG's art is the definitive example of art just being there so we can call it a comic.
I feel like this is just as bad.
I thought it was a webcomic at first.
>>83250274
is this a fan comic
>>83250274
This... this isn't a real comic book? No, it can't beIT CANT BE
>>83250274
jesus
CalArts has made it into marvel
>>83249955
>Isn't that a good thing though?
If it was reality, it could be argued that it was both bad and good, but if it's pure delusion on the part of the artist, it's just bad.
You're delusional if you think you can take the credit for everything you do well but everything you do poorly is down to your gender and people who hate your crappy art just hate ALL women and anything done by a woman.
I knew that the SG artist really fucking sucked before I knew it was some female named Erica Henderson. If it was a man, I'd STILL say fire the bitch.
What sucks is that there are probably tens of thousands of women who could do a better job, but they languish in obscurity while Erica Henderson pats herself on the back for mutilating my waifu and turning every character she draws into a tranny.
One more thing, why does EVERY single character have the exact same nose? Why is it the nose of Rocky Marciano after 12 rounds?
Why does every character look like they get hit in the face with frying pans for a living?
>I mean, if a dude was being a nondescript asshole, wouldn't people just say "ugh, men"
What?? What in the fuck are you TALKING ABOUT? Nobody would say that except a fucking crazy person.
Trust me dipshit, when I say Erica Henderson's art sucks it isn't because all men secretly hate all women, you fucking retard. Two out of my three favorite authors are women, so FUCK YOU, YOU specifically, individually, not your gender, YOU.
>>83250274
Stop talking about who prefer you fuck all the time, we don't care, it's not characterization!
>>83250274
Looks like fan art straight out of tumblr
>>83250330
>>83250350its real
only $3.99!
>>83247608
Jeez down syndrome superheroes now? I'm all for inclusiveness, but shit.
>>83250000
First, nice get.
Secondly, you have a point. I dropped gwenpool because of the lol-deadpool-quip writing myself but yeah, there are far better examples out there and i guess it would improve the comic. The lack of backgrounds and poor faces has started to annoy me since you guys just keep pointing it out.
It is web-comic level art, i suppose marvel should have much higher standards.
Why does /co/ have to piss on things i like? Just let me enjoy my pleb taste comics!
>>83250451
Is it the new Hellcat? Which issue?
>>83250396
>FUCK YOU, YOU specifically, individually, not your gender, YOU.
why are you so mad
I'm not even the anon you started this conversation with
>>83250529
most recent one. #6 i think
>>83249840
Where do you work? A hipster coffee shop in California?
>>83249840
There are incredible comics out there without a single line of writing or dialogue.
>>83250577
Couldn't be more wrong /co/mrade.
Work in a call centre type thing in Norwich, England.
Fucking wish i lived in Cali!
>>83247608
It's up for you, the consumer, to decide that and you already have.
>>83250461
>I dropped gwenpool because of the lol-deadpool-quip writing
Man, you REALLY don't know what you're talking about.
>>83250653
True, i have just read fran which is great, fuck i even enjoyed godzilla in hell, but i fail to see your point?
>other examples appreciated, you can still call me a fag as well
>>83249449
>>83249449
But if an artist is truly expressive he can tell a great story without putting a single word to page.
So while I see where you're coming from, by your logic I could say "Well if you want good writing and don't want to focus on the art then why don't you just read a book instead?"
Obviously there's a finer balance to be had in this particular medium.
I actually like the design used for Squirrel Girl in this comic, but the super shit art style just repulses me too much to even consider picking it up.
This bitch is also drawing the new Jughead books. Jughead was a sexy mother fucker in the Archie reboot, then they say "hey maybe we should make our most attractive character look like bad dirk the daring fan art"
>>83247608
>>83250736
Is it good anon? Just seemed like fan pandering to me, only read 1st issue then dropped it. What did i miss?
I am a bit of a dc and indie fag though, tend not to read much marvel.
>>83250883
its fan pandering
MAYBE it will get good if they develop her as a char someday. right now the best char in that comic is modok. let that sink in
>>83250789
>But if an artist is truly expressive he can tell a great story without putting a single word to page.
No anon, you misunderstand
If an artist is expressive enough to where he can create a great story with his art, that is both a combination of good art and good story
I mean, you explicitly said great story when we're talking about either or
In a situation where you have to choose between good art and good story, comics are a medium where good story is more important than good art.
>>83250435
It really does.
>>83249157
I thought it was a man, but the dialogue does make it obvious it's a she.
>>83247608
The art's bad but the writing's even worse!
>>83251069
These are 100% traced from Bee & Puppycat
>>83251069
Is this drawn by the person behind Bee & Puppycat?
>>83249755
>deodato
You mean stiff and shit? I'd rather have whoever drew OP than computer bullshit.
>>83251166
>>83251179
It's the Bee & Puppycat artist, yes.
>>83251069
It's like they made a comic out of the terrible new Puppycat art style.
>>83250789
To be fair that's still writing.
Writing isn't just the dialogue.
>>83251166
Same artist actually.
>>83250356
was right on the money.
>>83250973
But then there's the role good art plays in the story.
Can you name any good story that doesn't have atleast serviceable art?
>>83251069
please tell me this is one of those alternate universes and this isn't meant to be the main marvel canon
>>83251069
Natasha only gueststarred for this issue right? Right?
>>83249816
>Jealous whitey
>>83251140
I was thinking the same thing, those speech bubbles are way too verbose for the amount of panels.
>>83251363
>Can you name any good story that doesn't have atleast serviceable art?
Most of Don Hertzfeldt's stuff
Depending on how you feel about specific artists, there are tons of examples
I'm not a huge fan of Jhonen Vasquez's art style, but I enjoy some of his stories
>>83249755
>cute and awkward
she literally is asking if he wants to a blowjob right now
>>83249693
>Black guys can wear anything and it looks cool
I'm a short chubby black guy and I look terrible in everything because I'm a gross person to look at
>Attractive guys can wear anything and it looks cool
ftfy
>>83251556
nah man short chubby black guys can rock anything too
>>83251646
anon please
stop trying to defend your position
I have more experience at being unattractive and black than you do
>>83251069
I love bee and Puppycat but they can fuck off. That art style doesn't mesh with anything else.
>>83251363
>Can you name any good story that doesn't have atleast serviceable art?
Ultimate F4, Mark Millar and >Greg Land.
>>83251692
he said GOOD story
>>83251725
And?
>>83249459
That's what happens when you get a writer who makes liberal use of hover-over alt text on his webcomic.
>>83251470
>calling a white person whitey and thinking they actually give a shit
Yeah, real nice burn you got there
>>83249816
Try reading the thread, Anon. It will help you understand.
>>83247608
Don't buy the comics you don't like?
Do buy the comics you DO like?
Let others buy the comics they like?
Relax and enjoy?
>>83251861
Making sure that the comics you like to read are popular and making sure the comics you don't like are unpopular ensures that the comics you like will be plentiful and successful
>>83249783
So many people thought she was trans that Erica had to point out that she's not, but that the cast does have a trans person.
>>83251861
>>83251899
>p-please don't discuss comics in /co/
are you marvel interns or something?
>>83248782
gamma-induced
>>83251899
But typically when they try to do that, they become more popular. Though luckily Squirrel Girl and Hellcat are doing horribly....and they still won't fucking cancel them.
>>83251069
Isn't that guy a copy of her dead boyfriend that was married to another woman and she bragged about it all online?
>>83247960
Cho is faster because he's been drawing longer, and as you might notice he saves time by not bothering to draw more than one face. It worked for John Byrne.
>>83251861
The "read it if you like it or dont read it if you dont, just dont talk about it" mentality doesn't fit on a board meant to discuss comics
>>83252078
He wasn't a ginger or burly like that.
>>83249303
Henderson has never had to produce 22 pages a month before and she's cutting corners everywhere with her art. Someone posted an example of what she drew a few years beforehand and it was nowhere near this sloppy.
Some Guy is probably a really talented artist but might crumble under having to produce their own layouts, breakdowns and finished art for a book every month.Might
>>83249563
go big or go home, anon
>>83252171
probably
but being a pro also means being aware of your own limits
>>83251800
The person he was replying to, the only thing he said about sweaters was
> no distinguishing feminine features since they're all hidden under a sweater, and really short hair.
and then he said a bunch of unrelated shit. Who cares if black people wear sweaters or look good in them. You try reading.
>>83250274
I didn't think Nat could disappoint me worse than Bee & Puppycat did.
She can recover from this right? right?
Do people actually pay 4 bucks for this trash
>>83252351
didnt she said B&P's art was downgraded because animating the original stuff she designed was too expensive and not because she couldn't keep it up?
why is her comic book work even further down the shitter?
>>83249303
Neither drawing is technically much worse than the other.
The left drawing makes it quite clear that the artist simply views Squirrel Girl's face as inherently a little grotesque, and her body rather heavy and flat-chested.
The right drawing looks like an attempt to fix the left drawing by someone who wanted the character to have more sex appeal.
I might like Squirrel Girl to be easier on the eyes, but her official artist appears to have made a conscious decision against that. If it hasn't hurt her popularity, I don't care.
Left drawing isn't bad, just pointedly non-sexy.
>>83249755
> remember when Squirrel Girl was daz3d.com's Victoria 4 figure and Daredevil is Michael 4, with someone else's characters slapped on them
this must be what furries feel like when reading furrytrainwrecks on tumblr
>>83252449
Frederator is notoriously stingy and the studio did indeed downgrade to what F was willing to pay for.
The second question is usually answered by her raging alcoholism.
>>83252484
>inherently grotesque
I think she thinks it's cute.
I mean EH might've had a point if EVERYONE wasn't ugly. Even people they acknowledge as hot
>>83252233
>>83252484
>I might like Squirrel Girl to be easier on the eyes, but her official artist appears to have made a conscious decision against that. If it hasn't hurt her popularity, I don't care.
I just wanted the eye makeup back.
>>83252496
she was cute and awkward way before
that panel was just the first thing i found that had both her and dd
notice how she originally wasnt meant to be sexy, but neither a manface monster
>>83249284
Good writing makes up for meh art but generally doesn't make up for outright bad art. Great art can rarely make up for meh writing and can never make up for bad writing.
>>83252484
I agree, but the main problem with the one on the left is twofold and not easy to tell from one picture alone; the art in USG suffers a lack of consistency, and a lack of clarity.
Squirrel Girl's face isn't a little grotesque across panels, or at least not in the same way; her features sort of melt and shift and her face's proportions change in ways that make it hard to get a bead on what she's supposed to look like at all.
As for the lack of clarity, I think that is explained perfectly in the fact that even the book's fans can't tell when a character is supposed to be female or not and collectively leans towards "this is a transwoman" because the artist can't make it clear. Or the fact that somehow Doreen hiding her tail in her pants doesn't actually change her shape at all even though the writing insists that it does.
>>83249284
What's the point of getting a comic if the art is trash
>>83252646
She kind of seems to switch up.
Panel 3 is kinda monsterfaced.
Panel 5 is just kinda cute.
>>83252905
the artist is playing with proportions to convey her childish interest in being an avenger
also note how back then she actively used her tail to do cute stuff when embarrased
they kinda sexed her up in the 90s as she became a comedy relief char
>>83250274
The art reminds me of bee and puppycat for some reaason.
>>83251069
>G-guys I really want to be Rumiko Takahashi!
>>83247608
Oh, fuck, wasn't that black guy a woman and not actually a transwoman once upon a time? Is that a different black guy who looks just like that first black woman? I'm so lost right now, guys.
>>83253133
What about that makes you think of Rumiko? The characters don't even move their legs.
>>83251448
No she's a full time capeshit cartoonist now. Her career in animation is over
>>83253352
Can't wait for her to take over Spider-Gwen once Robbie leaves.
>>83253130
> i don't read threads before posting
good going
>>83253352
>Her career in animation is over
and she thinks she has a career drawing funny books at this level of competence
>>83253352
Soo we'll never see the rest of bee and puppycat?
>>83254380
Not the one I want anyways. The new one seems to have eaten her.
>>83254380
nope
At an interview she basically said "Thank you for youre kickstarter money for the thing i didn't deliver, it proves people are still willing to trust artists and it was a learning experience"
>>83248108
It's funny because Ms. Marvel and Gwenpool I think are legitimately fun and worth the money to follow weekly.
But Hellcat, Jane-Thor and Squirrel Girl just miss the mark so fucking hard.
>>83247608
Does her insanely ugly face actually come up in the comic, or is it just a shitty design decision that serves no actual purpose?
>>83247608
Hellcat manages to have even lower quality art than Squirrel Girl.
>>83253267
The head shape and low detail on the limbs, I think. Plus that awful anime affectation. Ugh
>>83255007
>At an interview she basically said "Thank you for youre kickstarter money for the thing i didn't deliver, it proves people are still willing to trust artists and it was a learning experience"
I need to read this interview before engaging in blind hatred, pls link
>>83255689
One of Rumiko's characteristics is exaggerated body movement, there isn't any there. It's like someone drew dolls standing around.Besides the character on the bottom left corner looks like Mario in profile to me.
I love threads like this because they both inspire me to keep working on my art and remind me that I keep having to schmooze industry people and make as many friends as I possibly can (because lord knows these women weren't hired for their creative talent)
>>83255309
everybody looks retarded in that comic
her looks are "average" in the erica handerson-verse
>>83255473
my 10yo sister actually draws exactly like this
i wonder if these artists arent emotionally stunted and have a 10yo-tier artistic sensibility
>>83249375
What is up with those lips?
>>83247608
I had no idea a face could be 60% chin, and 50% cheek bones, and 30% nose all at the same time.
>>83247608
Is it Paul Maybury? looks a bit like his style. It does look a bit lazy, I'll give you that but it certainly has more life to it than >>83247960. That's just bland. What is it with /co/ and Cho? He's awful!
>>83251861
I like the hero, I hate the current edition of the comics. So I'm forced to not read a current running series of a character I like because the work is shit. Why am I not allowed to discuss this exactly? What world are you living in where people should only discuss positive things and praise work?
>>83251069
What the fuck is HAPPENING here.
Why do some of the lines have aliasing issues? Why does one character have a texture but the rest does not? Why is the inking such a fucking mess Some of the backgrounds look like they were colored with a fill bucket and the bleeding lines weren't fixed, why? Did she think that looked good? Why do these characters seem to change design ever so slightly in each panel? Why is the perspective for the word STORAGE totally fucking busted? There's SO MANY GODDAMN TANGENT LINES. This is a fucking monstrosity, how did ANYONE approve this?
>anon thinks cartoon art he can't jack off to is bad
>anon thinks his bait thread is justified
>>83258053
What if I can only jack off to good art?
>>83253352
>>83251069
>>83250274
>>83250451
>someone actually published this
It's official, /co/. You no longer have any excuse why you can't be making comics. Get to work.
>>83257690
its erica henderson
if you like it congrats. you are the target demo
>>83257970
nu-marvel is hiring ms paint webcomic artists
>>83259192
Didn't say I liked it but I don't hate it either. Her characters do have a bit of life and "act" convincingly which is more than you can say for a lot of cape artists.
>>83251069
Yeah that is shit.
>>83252646
You know that's her first appearance Anon?
>>83248231
Dude Paranatural looks fucking good. I'd rather see that on print than this shit.
Ad to think that the same North that made Dinosaur Comics wrote this shit...
>>83248266
Vision, Doctor Strange, Illuminati, Moon Knight and Contest of Champions have great art.
>>83247608
She is not a bad artist in general, like Tom Preston/Dobson, both just have terrible, terrible taste in art to the point that most of what they do is not enjoyable
>>83247608
Man, remember when Squirrel Girl was a fun caricature of modern comics, not "political commentary" wankery.
>>83250274
THEY ARE SELLING THIS SHIT FOR $3:99
>>83250274
some of those characters legit look like quick thumbnail sketches
>>83247608
So, does the comic have any redeeming qualities, or was I right to drop it?
>>83263627
Squirrel Girl herself is cute.
Not much other than that.
>>83247608
Erica Henderson might very well be the worst artist working at the big two. DC could bring back Liefeld and she'd still be worse.
>>83264565
There are tons of examples of Marvel cuckoldry m8
>>83264583
>Erica Henderson might very well be the worst artist working at the big two
see
>>83250274
christ nat get your shit together or just move back to the res and guzzle sterno with your dad
>>83250000
Reminder that North apparently requested that Henderson specifically be the artist on Squirrel Girl.
>>83251861
>ending statements with question marks
Eat a bullet.
>>83264695
That was (likely) a one-off thing so I'm not counting it. I mean more in terms of regular artists getting steady work at Marvel or DC there's not really anyone worse than her.
>>83264977
>That was (likely) a one-off thing so I'm not counting it.
If she's burned her bridges with the animation community then I'm inclined to think otherwise
>>83250000
>Erica simply isn't doing pro-level work
and the fucking tragedy is, if she were more seasoned she COULD
she wasn't ready for this and jesus christ North isn't helping any
>>83250274
> Arcade bitching about cheating instead of being impressed by it
holy fuck Kate read a comic book
>>83253133
Not even remotely pervy enough.
Check Erica Hendersons mentions on Twitter.....Chris Moltisanti wrecked that bitch
>>83267162
The Sopranos character? What?
A twitter parody account of him anyways
Post more bad Marvel art
>>83256852
Kate Leth, the writer, is certainly emotionally stunted.
>>83270590
I only got Marvel Illustrated: Emma and Northanger Abby.
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>>83271169
And here's Northanger Abbey
well this looks like a rembrandt in comparison to hellcat and squirrel girl, specially the later issues where even the inker stopped caring (or maybe they inked it themselves )
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>>83250274
>mfw when this gets published and I only make 20$/week for my artI'm not great but this shit is atrocious
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>>83270987
this looks like a Bluewater comic
>>83270987
Jane Austen did not deserve that.
this thread
>>83271422
now that's just fucking criminal. and all they have to do is be rich and bribe their way to a degree in a prestigious(calARTS) school?
>>83256852
Take a look at Natasha's twitter and you'll have an answer>>83256896
>>83273663
almost a month ago she was posting hellcat/she hulk concept art (she called it "quick doodles") that looked better than the shit that got into the book
one has to wonder if someone fucked it up while trying to post-process the finished pages or she simple cracked under the weight of a full script
>>83274539
>she simple cracked under the weight of a full script
dingdingding we have a winrar
>>83271422
i concur
>>83250274
Not only is this webcomic tier art, it's not even that well done. You can see lines where there shouldn't be and some marks that should've been erased but weren't. This is lazy and unprofessional and the fact that Marvel allowed it is baffling.
Then again, US War Machines was a thing so they have an already bad record of what they take as "art."
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>>83248266
Ultimates is good too
>>83278225
Aren't the Ultimates the edgy Ultimate Universe Avengers?
>>83247789
You're gonna like Bleach.
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>>83255114
I think it's hilarious how much passive-aggressive comments are present on Jane-Thor
it's like the author foresaw the shitstorm and started working on stingy remarks for anyone who reads and disagrees
>>83279151
I will never understand why the edit changed her fist to an open hand, it's not an improvement
>>83249284
You'll notice that if you check up on the most highly-acclaimed comic book issues that they tend to have awesome art attached, or at least very eye-catching
Comics is a visual medium, art is as important as being being able to frame shots on the cinema industry. The same way no one praises a movie with a good plot that it looks like it was filmed by a teenager on a 1.3 Mpx camera phone, no one will praise a comic book with a good plot and unattractive scribbles
>>83250274
Guess I've been good enough to be published by Marvel since 6th grade
>>83251182
Naw at least Poser tracings have decent anatomy and are dimensional
>>83255114
>Reads Ms. Marvel and Gwenpoole
>Jane-Thor instead of Whor
Woman detected
>>83270987
What's with the text showing through in the background? Did they poorly photoshop some old paper for texture?
>>83247670
but negroes are poor, how does that make any sense?
>>83279762
Acting, open hand improves the gesture. Also the original fist was drawn like a ham.
One would mistake Allegri for a fill-in artist with art that sloppy.
>>83284067
Nat, if you're reading this, start drinking some more and come on back to Arizona where you can teach art at your alma mater, ASU. It was nice while it lasted, home girl.
>>83270987
>That foreshortening
>Those proportions
What the hell?
>>83249356
Like you've never known girls who look masculine.
>>83252646
>dat third panel
Carol Burnett and The Joker had a kid.
>>83247608
Those are women? For some reason, I read the two bottom panels first, and was convinced they were gay men.
Her Shulkie is cute!
>>83285901
CUTE!
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>>83285924
i really wouldnt mind it if the art in the comic actually looked like this
maybe she needs 5 months and a kickstarter to produce 22 pages worth of cute art
>>83286195
Nat's comic looks like this
It's just blatantly unfinished and rushed
>>83255473
Reminds me of 70's anime
>>83286425
>Nat's comic looks like this
>It's just blatantly unfinished and rushed
yeah thats why it doesnt look like that
>>83249157
IT LOOKS LIKE A FUCKING DUDE, BRO.
IT LOOKS LIKE FUCKING STROMAE. I'M EXPECTING IT TO BURST INTO FRENCH SONG.
>>83250274
>Why I pirate comics
Yarr harr fiddle da dee,
Paying for comics isn't for me,
Quality's shit, so's the story,
So I'll be a pirate, yo ho, yee hee!
>>83279112
At least Kubo has a reason for it, as far back as the first databook.
>I think drawing is not about drawing points and planes, but about depicting moods. Words aren't just lines, either. So whenever I deaw or write, I do it in a way that breathes life into the paper. For example, there's the background The background is drawn to tell you where the characters are, but I don't think that's very important. I don't want to draw backgrounds in frames where character's come in. In Bleach, when a new character comes in, there are times when the background is blank. This is because I want the character to create the mood just by standing there. I think a world is created by the interaction of the characters, so I try to draw my characters under that premise.
