Is anyone else excited for this book?
The return of Donna Troy and she is looking cool and that weird looking green lady that is apparently named Lilith
>>83200576
What's the difference between Titans and Teen Titans?
>>83200615
Titans belong to dick, Teen Titans belong to Damian. As is fitting for the World's Finest.
>>83200576
I'm gonna read the one with Walley west.
>>83200615
teen titans are teenagers
titans aren't
>>83200576
I literally only care about Wally
>>83200727
I"m pretty sure he will be in this at some point, wait what one? black or white?
>>83201012
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xECUrlnXCqk
>Lilith clay is back to being a Raven stand-in
Why not just use Raven?
>>83201422
no newfag characters allowed
>the New teen titans was the more popular version
>the fab five are the ones writers insist on making as the founders of the titans
Explain this faggotry /co/.
>>83201635
Endlessly chasing NTT has brought nothing but misery, so why not give the earlier version a go and try to break the curse?
>>83201635
NTT was a mistake
>>83200576
This is like anti-interesting to me.
>>83201680
We alreafybgave the earlier team a go, it was understandably shit because arsenal and Tempest are shit.
>>83201722
NTT is the only good titan book.
>>83200615
Titans aren't teens. They're all adults, some at least 30.
>>83201899
Year One was cute
>>83200615
One is a proper legacy book with teenagers and the other is a book filled with legacy characters that grew up but have nowhere else to go.
>>83201909
They're all in their early 20s. Dick was 21 when the New 52 started. Lilith seems a little older than the rest of them. She's old enough to be a counselor/social worker/psychiatrist/something.
I would if it wasn't drawn by Booth. Which is a shame because, writing-wise, I think Abnett can pull it off.
>>83203106
Why do so many people dislike Brett Booth? He was an artist for a bit back on the Grayson/Faeber Titans IIRC. He reminds me of Mark Bagely.
>>83200576
>Booth
Fuck no. Let it burn in hell
>>83203151
>He reminds me of Mark Bagely.
This isn't a bad comparison really. But it's an ugly style in general especially with the way it gets colored.
>>83203151
This. I admit some of his hair looks odd but that's about it... it's not great comic art and I've seen panels that look rushed, but I've never gone "What the fuck, I hate this!" with one of his comics as a whole.
>>83200615
One is not drawn by Brett Booth
>>83203045
Did Donna age up in Titans Hunt?
Because otherwise she's only a few months old
>>83200576
Who is Skullface McBoneyButt?
>>83203855
>trying to understand Donna's continuity
it already makes no sense and she just got back
>>83203897
Lilith
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith_Clay
>>83200576
No. I have no faith in either Titans book, I can't remember the last time Titans was good and I'm already preparing myself for every character from the team that has other books to their name to act out of character.
Also Booth.
>>83204141
Oh, Lilith, what have they done to you?
>>83203855
It's not the same Donna that appeared in Wonder Woman. Yeah.
>>83204273
Johns if you didn't read Young Justice, Young Justice if you consider it a Teen Titans book, Wolfman/Perez otherwise
>>83204780
Like, not at all?
What happened to WW Donna?
>>83204780
>It's not the same Donna that appeared in Wonder Woman. Yeah.
there's two Donnas now?
>>83204895
Fuck me, DC really can't help itself when it comes to donna.
>>83204952
Donna, proof of the DC Universe being alive
>>83204952
Wouldn't be a DC relaunch if they didn't fuck something up from day 1
>>83203045
So Dick isn't early 20's he's late 20's. So now I share Nightwings name and age, which is weird.
>>83205258
No, Dick was 21 when Grayson started and it's only been maybe a year max since then in-universe.
>>83205306
He said 21 when New 52 started
>>83204989
Sounds like a cry for help.
>WHO...A M...I?
>>83200576
Where is the black token?
>>83205497
Cyborg's in the League now
>>83205527
ok, but there must be a gay character and a black token according to today's standards
>>83205560
Aqualad?
>>83200576
Im pretty hyped. Aqualad is based.
>>83205560
Fuck you anon, you're not funny.
>>83205570
your mom says otherwise :^)
>>83200666
My brain is melting at half of Dick's original Titans being teenagers while he's an adult. Fuck they just don't have the confidence to have different, young generation Titans on the team. Since the Young Justice comic and whatnot there is a huge roster to choose from of younger characters.
Anyone know where the hell Tim Drake is going to be with Rebirth?
>>83201422
Raven is the Lilith Clay stand-in.
>>83205560
New Teen Titans will get the gay black kid from the end of Rebirth as their Aqulad.
>>83200666
Satan knows
>>83205570
No, Black Gay Aqualad is in Teen Titans.
>>83205650
Impossuble Raven was never responsible for the titans going on groovy mysteries.
>>83205646
Tim's in Detective Comics with Cass and Steph.
>>83205669
>trusting the prince of lies
>>83205794
I think it was more he was telling us that. Dick needs to have his own Titans book or Satan will curse it.
>>83204780
>>83204851
>>83204895
Guy who said that is an idiot who didnt read titans hunt. Donna in that story stated she was the god of fate, which is what Donna became in the WW run.
Its the same character.
>>83205986
But was she aged up?
>>83205706
After Rebirth? I don't want New 52 Tim, he's not the same. Also, Steph can just unexist. Cass is great.
>>83201422
Because her and Beast Boy aren't allowed outside of the Teen Titans while everybody they used to be peers leaves them behind/gets retconned to be significantly older than them.
>>83205646
>half of Dick's original Titans being teenagers while he's an adult
Who's a teenager? Pretty sure they're all adults
>>83206080
From what i know they never actually state her age. She popped out of a cauldron fully grown.
I can only assume she is around the same age as the rest them.
So 21-28 ish.
>>83205329
And Damian was 10 then but 13 now. So Dick is 24
>>83206360
Beast Boy and Raven, if we include NTT.
>>83206360
In Teen Titans, not Titans. Raven, Gar, and Starfire look like teens.
>>83206442
>>83206446
But they're not Dick's original Titans.
>>83206446
This reads like bad fanfic. Really hope Percy's not the one who wrote that .
>>83206446
Starfire is an adult.
>>83206480
Okay, not the absolute first with Speedy and whatnot, but they were Titans with Dick I mean, versus being the next generation Young Justice crowd with Tim.
>>83206506
I know, right? I just needed a picture to post and reading it is cringeworthy. Bad lines for a writer, even worse thinking Damian would be saying this nonsense.
>>83206446
Starfire is an adult. Dick has her there to watch over Damian as he leads the team.
>>83206480
Starfire was.
>>83206656
That's probably the least adult design I've seen for her in a long time. Especially after her early New 52 design.
I'm starting to think Beast Boy especially will never get to escape the de-aging vortex because he's an easy happy-go-lucky type to insert into the team.
>>83206446
All this reminds me of is when he originally met the team pre-New 52 and despised everyone except Rose, and they all hated him back.
I can only hope for the actual comic to be a grudgingly mutual respect at most. I feel like that would be more interesting than "I say I hate you, but I secretly love you deep down" and whatever godawful romance with Raven they give him.
>>83206716
How could a character created in 1980 be part of a team created in 1964?
>>83206794
Meant New 52 Starfire.
>>83200576
>Not Donna Troy, Red Arrow, Nightwing, Garth Aqualad, and Wally Flash
NOPE.
>>83203855
After Titans Hunt I have the theory that Donna is under some kind of similar curse as the one from her previous incarnation where she's basically forced to live a new life when she dies and that at some point as a Titan she was killed and the reason the DC universe didn't remember her had to do with the reason that they didn't remember the existence of their Teen Titans group
>>83200576
The hips are THICK
>>83206863
It is that plus Lilith thi
>>83206863
But that is the team + lilith and bumblebee
>>83200576
I still want a Titans show, just on the CW.
Put Thea on it instead of Roy and give her the Dick.
>Donna Troy
Won't even click on the scans I see posted here.
Is the original Teen Titans comic even good? The popularity of Wolfman/Perez run just seems to eclipse it and made everyone forget about the og
>>83200576
>skull hips
new waifu obtained
>>83201635
Because then the New Teen Titans will be...new.
Have they acknowledged the fact that Damian seems to have a thing for way older woman who can kill him recently? Oh and Titans is written by Dan Abnett who's a solid as hell writer.
>>83205329
Well they retconned it because Dick and Babs were stated to be 21 when Grayson and Burnside girl started
>>83207732
>mfw Titans will finally be good
>>83200666
>Justice League belongs to Bruce.
>Titans belongs to Dick.
>Teen Titans belongs to Damian.
>The Outlaws belongs to Jason.
>Birds of Prey belongs to Barbara.
>Nothing belongs to Tim.
>>83207838
He's in charge of the other bats.
>>83207838
Outsiders?
Being Tim is suffering.
>>83207858
Batwoman/Batman are leading that team, actually.
>>83207864
Being Tim is very suffering. Maybe they'll bring back YJ, with Kal'dur returning, with Tim, Kaldur, and Miss Martian.
>>83207858
Not a fan of those Spoiler and Batgirl costumes.
>>83207838
At some point they'll fix the Young Justice generation
Does PAD have a disagreement with DC? He's returned to a bunch of his 90s Marvel work, wonder if they could get him back at YJ.
>>83207883
I would be behind that.
>>83207883
I think Kal'dur's been confirmed for Teen Titans?
>>83200576
Why is DC stuck in the 90s?
>>83207940
hail hydra
>>83200666
Teen Titans Belong to Tim. Damian can have young justice
>>83207838
>Nothing belongs to Tim
As it should be
Tim is worst boy
>>83207930
Is he the "surprise/mystery" character? Would make sense since he appeared in Rebirth. But Tim not being a team seems weird.
>>83207907
I have no clue. I'd just like to see a solid YJ book again, could even take inspiration from the YJ TV show since it was also quite popular. You'd just need 6 younger heroes and a way to distance it from Titans/Teen Titans.
>>83207992
Used to be. Now Damian is in control of the Teen Titans.
>>83208004
You take that back!
>>83207992
No, Young Justice belongs to Tim.
Damian can have Teen Titans, or should come up with his own name
>>83200576
Arsenal, we landed, you can take off the eye covers now.
>>83200576
I thought Donna Troy was a Star Trek character?
>>83208004
there should be batfam stories where Tim saves the day because the villain completely forgot about him and forgot to make an ironic death trap for him like all the other Robins
>>83206734
He won't. Him and Raven will forever be 14 year old titans while everyone else moves on.
Because DC doesn't know what to fucking do with them other then "funny guy" and "terror of trigon #7."
>>83200576
Cautiously Excited. Booth is drawing it so I'm lowering my expectations a bit.
>>83201422
Because I don't want another fucking Trigon story, let that little shit Damian deal with all the shitty retreads of the Wolfman/Perez Era Titans.
>>83201635
>OH BOY I CAN'T WAIT FOR ANOTHER FUCKING DEATHSTROKE, TRIGON, BROTHER BLOOD STORYLINE
>MAYBE IF WE'RE GOOD WE'LL GET A TITAN BETRAYS THE TEAM STORY
>OH GOLLY A TITAN JUST DIED!?
Perez/Wolfman was a great run but what came after was shit.
>>83205201
Them fucking it up would be explaining Donna's Origin to the point where we understand it. Her being a clone of the original Donna is just more fuel to the fucked up choose your own adventure Origin Story that is of Donna Troy.
>>83208770
I think with Damian in NTT we are going from
>MUH DEVIL DAD
Raven to
>MUH HEAD OF THE DEMON GRANDAD
Damian
>>83208750
At least they'll always be friends/potential lovers.
Gar not being best buds with Vic in New 52 is upsetting.
>>83200576
Did the Spectre possess an ICP fan?
>>83200576
What's the difference between the Titans and the Justice League?
>>83209023
Justice League has a shit writer and artist, while Titans only has a shit artist
>>83209288
I meant in universe. Like why do some join one and not the other?
>>83205669
>669
so close
JL is the original superhero team. If you are not a founder you have to be invited to join.
Teen Titans was originally just a group of sidekicks, but then it accepted any teenager hero.
Titans are just the TT who are above 18 and don't want to join the JL or stay in a team with a bunch of kids.
Of course it's much more complicated than that in universe, but this simplification should give you an idea
>>83206734
>beast boy
>easy happy go lucky type of character
Why does literally everyone forget that gar is a sad clown with deep seated emotional problems?
Did the Silver Banshee and Green Arrow have a kid?
>be titans fan in 2011
>can't wait to see how their going to reintroduce the core 80's-era team in the reboot
>hoping for a character driven drama
>get Young-Justitans instead
>"Meh, I'm game"
>Whole series gets Lobdelled the fuck up
>Titans get shit on for five straight years
>Dick given mediocre solo run
>Cyborg shoved into JL just so they have a black guy
>Raven's bird suit
>Red beast boy
>Wildstormfire
>Wally is nowhere
>Donna is nowhere
>I give up
>Years later, Earth One is released
>hey thats pretty good
>Starfire taken out of Titans and given solo
>Solo sucksbut at least it's better then Lobdell
>Titans Hunt releases
>It's REALLY fucking good holy shit
>suddenly get the feeling that DC is beggining to care about the titans again
>Rebirth solicitations lists an Abnett Titans series
>Oh fuck yes
>Brett Booth
>mfw
>>83205560Bumblebee?
>>83210252
>Red beast boy
The reasoning behind that was decent enough that I can give it some leeway.
>>83210288
Looking back it makes sense but during that time period I was full on "REEEE NOT MY TITANS" mode.
>>83210252
>>Dick given mediocre solo run
I hope you're talking Nightwing and not Grayson
>>83210308
Grayson was cool, I can't wait for King's Batman run.
>>83210252
>Titans Hunt releases
>It's REALLY fucking good holy shit
Huh? I thought it was generic as fuck.
There's 3 issues and an annual left in the current Teen Titans run before Rebirth.
How likely is it that Bunker will die?
>>83201680
As much as I like Kori, Vic, & Raven being Titans this poster is probably right. Going back to the very original Teen Titans team as in the Titans Hunt mini is probably the way to go.
>>83209637
because all they know about him is from the cartoon
>>83206863
What?
Titans is Donna, Arsenal, Nightwing, Tempest, Omen, and Wally, plus Bumblebee.
>>83207838
Apparently, Wally is the new leader of the Titans, so it doesn't belong to Dick anymore.
>>83208016
>But Tim not being a team seems weird.
But he is on a team. Detective Comics is a team book.
>>83209355
>3
Justice League is for the big boys
>>83210361
yeah but it's not a retread of Wolfman so that automatically places it above a lot of Titans stories.
>>83200576
Dick looks like he belongs in another book.
>>83201635
Honestly I'd be fine with this lineup but just adding Starfire and maybe Cyborg.
>>83210361
No, it was generic. No one gives a shit about Gnarrk or Hawk and Dove. They picked some of the dumbest characters to focus on.
>>83207838
>Titans belongs to Dick
More like Dick is handcuffed to them.
>>83213656
It's going to get super awkward if Starfire was there given she was sucking Roy's cock not long ago talking about how much she loved him. Dick and Donna would probably feel weird.
>>83213741
Tbh I think most writers are pretending RHATO never happened at this stage.
>>83213682
They didn't want to use the Titans connected to other heroes, probably since they hadn't decided yet whether it'd be all one Earth or if it was just the name of a line up.
>>83207858
>give Cass the mask, but keep the shitty Orphan armor/persona
God.
>>83209355
They usually only join when they're the main one (Wally when he was Flash, briefly Dick and Donna when they were Batman and WW).
>>83215131
>give Cass the shitty mask, but keep the Orphan armor
ftfy
>>83204583
improved her drastically it seems.
>>83200576
I'm pretty interested in it for Wally. Gonna be tentative about it, but if the story is pretty good, I'll probably buy the non-Booth issues.
>>83207992
>>83208025
The best way to get Young Justice back would be to have a "The Return of Bart Allen" storyline in Super Sons.
>>83219770
>non-Booth issues.
Those won't exist. Titans is only monthly.
>>83220063
>>83207858
Cass needs a cowl redesign and to get rid of that extraneous yellow.
If they won't let her be Batgirl, give her a scarf and make her Kamen Rider.
>>83210838
Wally never mattered to Titans even when he was a sidekick, he was only there for playing Dick's best friend role. Fuck, he even tried to quit it most of the time. it's hilarious how he's suddenly a leader to them.
>>83210366
What's the status of Bunker's boyfriend? I think it'd be interesting if the new Aqualad was interested in him but Bunker did not reciprocate.
>>83220836
New Aqualad already has a boyfriend, so I'm not sure they'd go there.
>>83201422
Raven is getting BROWNED by Damian.
>>83206400
Damian wasn't 10 when New 52 started, he was 10 when he was first introduced. He was 12ish at the beginning of the New 52.
>>83206716
Starfire is basically the nanny of Damian's teen titans, she's still in Dick's age group.
>>83223597
I can't imagine Damien staying with anyone for very long.
>>83225313
I can.
>>83206794
>Sliding timescale
>>83225400
I prefer that to Damien and Raven for sure. But I still feel like Damien will take after Bruce and ultimately never have a long lasting relationship so he can focus on his mission.
I also have my doubts that DC will just abandon Raven and Beast Boy entirely, considering that it's the most popular pairing for those characters, and given their relationship was lost with New 52 and Rebirth seems to be returning a lot of relationships it wouldn't surprise me.
I'm still hoping that Emiko is the secret 6th member, unless they already confirmed it was somebody else. I know Ben Percy is writing both Teen Titans and Green Arrow, so I could see it happening.
>>83225400
I can imagine Damian with Nobody -Maya Ducard-
>>83207907
The new Superboy is Clark's son, and N52 Wally is going to be Kid Flash.
I don't know which identity could Connor and Bart assume if they do come back. Johns loves Connor so I assume he will and Tim seriously needs his friends.
>>83208004
>Time is best boy
ftfy
>>83223946
He was ten in Batman and Robin, Bruce says he's ten post resurrection. And he's eleven in Robin son of Batman. Now, he being 13 is absurd.
Will they keep pretending that the original Titans were the ones in Titans Hunt or will the original history eventually come back?
What should I read before Titans Rebirth?
>>83227290
Titans Hunt which I thought was alright.
