Good evening owls of /co/,
so dashing~
So... those Rebirth spoilers...
Rebirth Spoilers are in the wild. some wacky sounding shit!
>>82970351
A red herring.
>>82970351
>>82970367
I do like how /co/ there is pretending to care aboutWatchmen
>>82970374
I tend to go with
>it's a multiverse story
>people thinking this means Watchmen is canon to main continuity now
but mostly I want to know WHICH FUCKING JSA FROM WHEN
>>82970374
yeah, if I'd gotten my hands on it, I would have picked isolated things to troll with
>>82970386
Fuck that, and the Joker one, I care about the others!
>>82970386
I care more about it than anything Johns ever wrote
>those Rebirth spoilers
F A M
A
M
>>82970417
same
>>82970413
>>82970417
Same desu
Just give me Orlando JSA and I'll be okay.
I'm optimistic enough that it's just an Easter egg thing cause Johns isn't THAT dumb is he??
good teasing though cause now i really wanna read Rebirth
>>82970458
mai waifu
>>82970494
>>82970490
I think it has to be a multiverse thing along with a meta sort of "this is to blame for the tone" thing, I think. But I've given him too much credit before so we'll see.
>>82970490
Before Watchman will not be the last time DC uses those characters
>>82970515
if we have Manhattan out there can we un-Manhattan Captain Atom? Please?
Alan Young passed away.
Titans are full JV Team and it's so sad I can't stop laughing
>>82970521
>>82970523
it would be pretty funny if it was actually a meta explanation and apology? for Before Watchmen
what gets me is how badly DC seems to be missing what people liked in Watchmen.
>>82970544
>>82970593
why is CIA funny?
>>82970593
so much happened today
>>82970609
row row fight da powah
>>82970631
can you wear that shirt when you're military
>>82970664
only if you're a black dude, I think.
>>82970679
hey, it's Chester the Molester
Oh wow Bleeding Cool claims to have more actual backstory for RebirthDoctor Manhattan was directly responsible for the creation of the New 52.
my brain cannot deal if true, just wat
>>82970708
>>82970715
O___o
>>82970715
I can't wait for people to flip their shit and get mad at it
That Rebirth spoiler thread is fueling me
>>82970715
>Watchmen literally causing the grimdarkness that was the new 52
Has Johns gone full Morrison?
>>82970745
there's a lot of shit being flipped and the context is going to matter a lot, I think
>>82970587
I don't need an apology for Minutemen and Silk Spectre.
>>82970715
>was directly responsible for the creation of the New 52.
I'm like 100% sure we saw Barry do it by fucking around with time travel
>>82970769
whew, we've been building to a good ol' divide and conquer story
Lol
Geoff better give in and give us Time Trapper too in Rebirth
>>82970822
MOTHER *FUCKER*
>>82970822
STOPORLANDO SAVE US
>>82970787
Barry did nothing wrong. It was Pandora.
>>82970822
Excuse me while I drink these salty tears
>>82970860
>>82970324
Alan Young is dead and Watchmen is mainline DC canon.
Today is not a great day. Msybe early 90s man can improve things.
>>82970894
7:37 PM - 19 May 2016
Trying to get my head around that Rebirth spoiler and now I know how Krona feels
>>82970872
>Barry did nothing wrong
Johns/Van Sciver I know that's you
>>82970897
>>82970822
T R I G G E R E D
>>82970840
That would be neat
>>82970593
I guess he's finally made it big.
>>82970979
the gang's all here
god I love that Spectro costume
>>82970944
Wallyfag pls
>>82970906
>Watchmen is mainline DC canon
Not yet its not.
>>82971002
>Pages from B4 Watchmen show Manhattan making a world and putting it in a river
>Hypertime is a river
POETRY
O
E
T
R
Y
>>82971100
>all these SFX
>>82970715
To repost an anon
>I doubt its as simple as that but if we're following the whole "meta" subtext then
>Doctor Manhattan causing the New52=Snyder creating the Watchmen film and DC wanting to cash-in
>DCEU/New52 is created
>Rebirth is about instilling hope and optimisim in the DCU
>at the same time Johns replaces Snyder
I really don't care about the actual plot of the Rebirth comic.
>>82971150
>Johns
>smart enough to do anything meta
>>82971120
>>82971170
I just want a JSA ongoing out of it and 80 pages for 2.99
>>82971170
I don't think there's really a plot outside of the Jaime and Ted setup?
>>82971194
Liefeld already confirmed its meta as shit
>>82971199
shit, son, he went there
>>82971227
>>82971194
Johns is bretty good at untangling nasty continuity snarls in reasonably clear ways
>>82970787
All right, explain how Barry tied in Wildstorm.
>>82971100
>>82971120
>>82971199
>>82971227
Pretty bloodthirsty all told.
>>82971256
btw, from the other day: this is what I live for, storytiming
>>82971194
Did we not all just read Lo3W togethor?
>>82971256
I really wish The Cambodian would lose his samurai get-up. He'd be cooler made up like one of those temple statues.
>>82971256
uhoh, those shiny muscles can't float away!
Zirch posted a list the other night of "dudes you should draw with ripped abs, and dudes you should not"
>>82971150
>>82971194
>yfw Flash/Green Lantern beats up Dr. Manhattan
>>82971333
Yes, this does follow right on the previous issue, they just like to mix things up
>>82971333
>not drawing everyone with ripped sameabs anatomy regardless of propriety or function
Wow this guy is NEVER going to work in the comic book industry :^)
>>82971333
I saw that, and I agree. Hate samebody as much as I hate sameface. Maybe even more.
>>82971360
bow chika wow
>>82971341
>He's the Time Trapper
>only see his symbol glowing in the hood
>>82971386
;___;
>>82971376
I can deal with everyone with abs, it's the insane lats that bug me, now
>>82971360
They don't even eat the cake?
>>82971420
>cockblocked by yourself
>>82971341
>>82971389
How can Johns get his presumed waifu Dawny to save the day in this scenario to see the LoSH too though?
>>82971449
>catching up the new readers
>>82970664
Man, establishment types love the trappings of anti-establishment culture.
>>82971100
>Major Force's shit-eating grin
He's having the time of his fucking life.
>>82971449
Nate definitely seems a bit more rage-filled these days. The conception he has of himself as 50 years old is completely wrong-headed though.
>>82971420
Both annoy me.
>>82971456
seed the LoSH*
oops
>>82971471
There's one weird plot with Rex and his wife, yeah
>>82971456
I was more going for a literal "I beat you" story with Flash/Lantern, since that's the kind of subtlety you'd expect from Johns.
>>82971471
More like best unlaid plans desu
>>82971511
He's trying to bond and Cap just snaps at him!
>>82971420
Dude your wife married Eiling. Eiling of all people! It's definitely time to move on.
>>82971540
lol :(
>>82971638
>>82971341
I'd be okay with Hal and Barry tag team beating somebody up
>>82971655
surely nothing will go wrong with this brilliant idea
how are you strigiformes today?
>>82971685
how long has it been since Hal and Barry went on their date, man
>>82971702
i finished that nk jemisin book 1000000 kingdoms, s'was alright. coulda done without a love story stuff
>>82971655
Contrast Babylon and Allard for fun IMO. Both attachments to their masters stemming from childhood trauma. Treated totally differently by them.
>>82971685
Shut the fuck up, Van Sciver. You disgusting Trump supporter.
>>82971685
ok but who would they seduce together?
>>82971341
I want this to happen so Watchmen fans cry.
>>82971786
I did not like that book with the romance stuff
>>82971511
Do Superheroes always have to one up each other?
>>82971702
>how long has it been since Hal and Barry went on their date, man
I want to say Flash annual 2 came out in 2012?
Barry showed up in GL #38 but that was an extremely infuriating issue I'd rather forget, and they don't interact at all in JL
>>82971842
is this /d/?
>>82971844
yes
>>82971702
Feel like my forehead is about to pop open honestly. How are you?
>>82971828
>I want this to happen so Alan Moore cries
Fixed
>>82971875
kind of bleh, but at least I stepped in ants today and stepped out quickly enough to not pay for it
>>82971884
Him too but mostly Watchmen fans.
>>82971702
This plan has a bit of an 'Aragorn, Legolas and Dave' ring to it.
>>82971884
Eh, when someone told him about Blackest Night he compared DC and Johns to raccoons rooting through his trash, I don't think he cares much about these things anymore.
>>82971842
the book i got is the whole trilogy in 1 book so i'm gonna go to the others eventually. but yeah...
>>82971913
Naaaaaate
>>82971986
This is legimately one of my favourite fictional tropes.
>>82971986
the coloring makes it pop
>>82972044
this is fucking wonderful
>>82972061
>Batman and Flash at the wedding
>>82971571
Look at his face in the first panel. He was starting shit.
>>82971857
Fuck, that was that long ago? Fuck.
>>82972114
>>82972105
i took that as Metamorpho being a goof
>>82971857
Johns seems to have it out for barry in JL. hilariously so
>>82971823
Together they could seduce anybody
>>82972131
>>82972230
>>82972224
>"You've never flown with me and my copilot before."
>>82971986
>Cheerleader Nightshade
You alright Storyteller? You didn't comment on that.
>>82972267
I missed that, wtf self
All the women in his life, there in a row
>>82972203
Barry hasn't done SHIT in JL, in 50 fucking issues
And Hal barely did anything since he came back and now he has to leave again ;_;
>>82972333
Worth it for the King issue.
wow even his mental Eling is a crazy douche
>>82972311
welp, time to go home, end of the run
>>82972311
Waving pom-poms.
>>82972203
That's because he clearly prefers Wally. Sure, he respects Barry, but growing up Wally was his Flash.
>>82972364
Eiling is a douche-constant of the multiverse, I suspect
>>82972363
True, that was the best Hal issue we have gotten or will likely get in years
>>82972311
Well, four of them. Is that Catherine on the right or Sally?
>>82972406
He didn't mention Wally directly but this quote today from him stuck out to me
>So what’s on his board for the comics, which will go through a serious shake up in the upcoming Rebirth event? “Hope,” he says, looking for our nod before continuing. “And connection, and legacy. That stuff has all been missing.” Johns stood up straight after making that statement. “I started with legacy, because…it’s gone. I wrote the Justice Society of America for nine years, and of course I’m upset it’s gone,” he said, meaning the omissions made canon by The New 52 comics, which Johns is about to push aside with Rebirth. “All those characters, wiped out. Same thing with the Teen Titans! God, I love Conner (Superboy) and Tim (Robin) and Cassie (Wonder Girl).”
I really think he was pretty broken up about the reboot.
>>82972406
Does he, Anon? Remember when Zoom came back, and he literally had Barry save the day? Or basically everything from Flash Rebirth?
>>82972429
Sally, glasses, I think
>>82972427
I am so behind in Darkseid War I didn't read that issue yet
>>82972333
I still can't believe Cyborg did more and got more than Barry did.
It was like
Wonder Woman > Superman = Batman > Lex Luthor probably > Cyborg > Aquaman > Barry = Hal
>Aquaman had Throne of Atlantis but was useless after that
>Hal was gone
>Barry has done shit
>Lex took over the title
>Supes and Bats are about equal
>Diana is the most consistent character in Amazo Virus and Darkseid War
>Diana also had the couple Cheetah issues
>Cyborg had the Metal Men issues and is in Darkseid War more than the three below him
>>82972487
Him creating Zolomon and then later forcing dead parents into Barry's backstory is the pinnacle for me
>>82972474
he did all this continuity cleanup right before the Reboot, there's no way he wanted to toss all that
>>82972429
Girl on the far left has glasses, it's Sally.
>>82972429
Shit, I mean on the left.
>>82972526
note how good ol' mortal Nate has his original hair color back, instead of his white hair
>>82972567
HEY LOOK WHO IT IS
>>82972474
“Every great Green Arrow story had a goatee”
>>82972584
so Gaiman got mad because his Death is THE ONE TRUE DEATH?
>>82972584
>>82972623
Yeah, this is a real fuckup. I can see why he was mad, I'd be mad too.
>>82972501
Johns's favorite cartoon growing up was The Super Powers Team: Galactic Guardians where Barry only did stuff in one episode so there you go.
>>82972584
Oh. Is this the thing everyone got mad about?
>>82972500
You don't really even need Darkseid War, it stands alone pretty well
>>82972618
>"Let’s say you’ve been given the position of writing Green Arrow from scratch,” he posits, rhetorically. “Clean slate. You might say, ‘Okay, I’m going to write this new character,’ and when someone says, ‘Well, what about Black Canary,’ you might say… ‘nope.’ That means you completely misunderstand these characters.”
Arrow absolutely BTFO
>>82972623
>>82972643
I have no attachment to Sandman, sooo
>>82972623
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2011/02/12/comic-book-legends-revealed-300-part-2/
>>82972657
Remember when Barry got BTFO at the beginning of Darkseid War.
>>82972690
Your love for continuity doesn't come through here? It doesn't really bother me either, but it is a deliberate misinterpretation of what Gaiman set out IMO.
>>82972690
Really? Shame on you, OP.
>>82972671
https://www.inverse.com/article/15892-dc-comics-and-film-s-boss-geoff-johns-lays-out-the-company-s-path-forward
>>82972690
I'm fond of it, but I'm not bothered.
>>82972657
That doesn't explain why he doesn't love Hal any more
>>82972690
Ooh, are we about to get some Dantean cosmology?
>>82972747
Eh, here's one where Weisman's explanation works for me
>I tried to be faithful, and even intentionally vague. Death never says what she is. Captain Atom guesses at her function and at her relationship to the other “death” figures (i.e. the Racer and Nekron). No one in the issue says that he guessed right. So even if what he said was completely off-base, there’s still nothing in the issue that contradicts anything that was established about the Endless. At least not to my mind. One can always choose to believe that Captain Atom was simply wrong.
>>82972753
I have never been able to get to anything of Gaiman's at all. No, not even Good Omens.
>>82970664
Do the impossible
See the invisible
>>82972780
he got his husbando back in green (Sinestro), nothing else matters
>>82972794
>>82972780
He wrote him for about nine years, guess he feels done.
>>82972794
I'm kind of in the same place with Sandman as I am with Transmetropolitan: I like specific issues or arcs a hell of a lot more than the run as a whole.
>>82972834
Oh bless his heart, he really IS Catholic
>>82972794
Even his afterlife is out of date.
>>82972794
Shame on youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuSandman > Captain Atom
>>82972870
>>82972924
no u
>>82972950
>>82972924
>Sandman > Captain Atom
That's pretty hard to disagree with.
>>82972794
I feel like that explanation doesn't hold up at all because, why would Death play along with that charade? She's Death, simple as that, she's beyond the Black Racer andNekron(and as Blackest Night proves, especially the latter), she should have made herself clear. But frankly, I'm more annoyed at her being miscolored.
>>82972747
Not only Gaiman, but the rest too. it's such a cheesy "let's include every reaper like character just because"
>>82971002
When do they give Major Force the ability to fly? He can fly now, right?
It's still funny seeing him riding around on a flying mobility scooter.
>>82972975
>>82973003
In her Gaiman-approved issue of Action Comics she was content to let Luthor believe he had actually died until she had had her fun, she doesn't have to correct anybody.
>>82973041
>god dog returns when
>>82973041
Really, no envy? Not even a little bit?
>>82973060
>>82971120
Man they really gotShreked
>>82973003
Why would she not? It's not like she's Dream, she's laid back enough to not bother.
>>82972671
But Ollie/Dinah is toxic and Dinah deserves better.
>>82973087
>>82973113
Depends of the Writer
>>82973113
Who would you pair her with? And don't say Babs. Or Helena, for that matter.
>>82973119
>>82973060
>Phantom Stranger out of nowhere
Doesn't that count as cheating, given his rules?
>>82973152
>>82973113
He never cheated on her until Winick and none of that applies anymore.
>>82973150
Dr. Mid-nite.
>>82971360
>Ken Penders
Eeeeeh.....
>>82973125
I have the same reflexive reaction to it as Dick/Babs, or the entire Teen Titans franchise. Sure, theoretically it can be good again. But I'm sick of it.
>>82973182
>No greedy military men
I call horseshit.
>>82973210
But Pieter doesn't exist anymore.
>>82973182
flames of lust!
>>82973150
The way you worded that makes it seem like you think she is nothing more than a cocksleeve for the male characters. Bad anon.
>>82973150
No one? Dick. A nice civilian dude.
>>82973163
Why? He's just giving some friendly advice.
>>82973241
;____;
but which JSA is it we have again now
>>82971420
>"Major Scott, this is the President. I order you to quantum entangle that Parisian floozy like you were Ben Franklin!"
>>82973258
Quiet, /co/mblr.
>>82973113
Bad bait.
>>82973262
>tfw I liked Dick/Dinah and Babs/Ted more
>>82973271
He's outright saying "Just tank the hits". Isn't he the kind who only hints to the solution?
>>82973184
He cheated on her in Grell's run
>>82973282
According to the Reddit leaker, classic. What counts as "classic" I have no idea, bastard didn't take pictures of that page.
Also,apparently the death is New 52 Superman,but we already knew that.
>>82973282
>>82973163
Physically confronting sins is a hard thing to get right in fiction IMO. This isn't doing much for me so if the Phantom Stranger wants to speed it up I'm fine with it. Some of the art here is nice.
>>82972427
>>82973282
I'm hoping for the pre-Flashpoint JSA.
>>82973330
right, 'classic' don't tell us obsessive JSA nerds shit
>>82973286
Eat dick, you mcudrone.
>>82973358
oh shiiii-
>>82971511
I feel like that screen teaching Rex how to know in French is foreshadowing something.
Also, man, these two need to commiserate. And maybe Strangers on a Train Stagg and Eiling.
>>82973330
This is like when Paquette mentioned he was bringing back "classic" Helena and no one knew what that meant.
>>82973184
Didn't she dump him towards the end of Grell because he made out with her assistant?
>>82973380
>>82973286
>>82973375
Girls, girls, you're both pretty. Now can we just read some comics without starting a fight?
>>82973322
Surely you're not saying his getting raped by Shado was cheating.
>>82973380
RISE
>>82973408
>>82973434
yep
>>82973398
She was sad when he died.
>>82973419
But I'm prettier than both of those bozos right?
>>82973453
>>82973408
Am I the only one curious how Atom's hair feels like? Is it a solid metal chunk, or is each individual hair it's own metal? And does it stay solid, or can it move?
>>82973432
Dinah acted like it was, which was awful. But he also actually cheated on her with a girl who worked at Dinah's flower shop.
>>82973493
I'm still curious if he's cold and shiny or body temp and shiny
BEARDED AND SHINY
>>82971868
>is this /d/?
No, I think it's a little used board on 420chan.
>>82970822
NO.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!
>>82973493
Maybe it's like cutting wire, just slice your hand right open.
>>82973552
I think body temp or warmer.
>>82972044
>>82972061
Silver Shield, I like you. You good transdimensional emergent intelligences.
>>82973552
Nekron looking very goofy there.
>>82973087
I like the Phantom Stranger, but this would have been more satisfying if Nate had come to this on his own.
>>82972081
>>Batman and Flash at the wedding
Proving that Superheroes need a formalwear version of their costumes, like the military, by wearing military dress uniforms.
>>82973552
>>82973648
yeah, we'll get there
>>82973728
WHOOPS
>>82973671
I think building up to "malevolent giant skull gazes down into heaven" is pretty great, but this whole thing feels pretty haphazard once we hit the afterlife.
Kinda runs into the same problem I have with a lot historical comics and manga.
>>82973728
fuck yeah
>>82973744
okay this would be bad
>>82973801
>>82973692
I think just wearing their masks over a suit like here is a good solution. I hate when they're just shown wearing red spandex to a funeral.
>>82972584
A colouring error?
>>82973824
AWW SHIT
>>82973533
Oh right that. It was hard for me to think of that as cheating because he kissed her knowing full well Dinah was in another room. A weird impulsive lark.
>>82973866
Hah. Oh, okay.
>>82973896
>>82973920
you can't just punch out death
>>82973846
I mean, Babylon has a different skin color every other panel.
>>82972690
Did you read Sandman as part of your big JSA/Infinity Inc read to follow Hector/Lyta?
>>82973948
Eiling doesn't nap.
>>82973953
I'd read my BIL's trades before, but that story made me a lot more >:( after reading II
>>82970324
I want this captain version to return. Bring him in a justice league international book or something.
>>82973990
>>82973995
N52 JLI was not good
