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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w2-3Dn9PGg
Third animated short from Blizzard. This one stars Genji and Hanzo.
Overwatch manages to hammer every single cliche in the book, but in a way that's both charming and enjoyable. I don't know how they do it.
Ching chong bing bong honor honor honor. There I just saved you 7 minutes.
>>82830363
Thanks senpai
>>82830363
>forgetting DRAGONS, DRAGONS, MUH FORGIVENESS, and HURR YOU DIED
But, yeah, there was way to much "muh honor".
>>82830422
Counterpoint: Dragons and Honor are good as hell.
>>82830327
At least it´s not as bad as Widowmakers monologue about what weird things she was told about spiders as a kid.
>another short
>not using Mei, Pharah or even Mercy
it's like you don't even know why people are buying this game Blizzard
>>82830625
Soldier 76 is the best Overwatch character and he's getting a short, sorry to tell you this.
>>82830422
>>82830363
Fuck you naysayers shit was awesome, best short yet.
Where are the other two?
I thought for sure that they'd explain Hanzo's Ult as some kind of advanced hyper tech, turns out it really is just Magic Dragons.
I wonder if we'll get like a legitimate Mage character afterall.
>>82830701
>ninja fight with honor speak
>anymore complicated than what those two posts said
It's better than the shit piles of the last two, I'll give you that.
This was made before the short came out.
It's scary how accurate it was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnNOa1cQgBc
>>82830706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U130wnpi-C0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB5zlHMsM7k
>>82830832
>I wonder if we'll get like a legitimate Mage character afterall.
It'll be a fat Shimada brother who actively pursues the criminal lifestyleand he's a support character.
Then there'll be a skinny tall Shimada sister who struts around in giant Samurai robot armor as a tank.
>>82831009
pls no. 2 weeaboo characters is already too many.
>>82830892
>Hanzo takes out some goons
>Hanzo and Genji fight
>Hanzo uses his Ult
Blizzard is fairly predictable, but come on. Everyone knows these movies are mostly just to showcase cool fights.
>>82830832
>Medivh tears open a portal from Azeroth to Earth
>Joins the rosterI secretly want something really fucking stupid like this to happen.
>>82831111
I'm sure he's just trying to warn us not to watch the warcraft movie.
>>82831230
It could be good
>>82830673
We're all soldiers now.
>>82830327
>I don't know how they do it.
It's not like this hasn't been done before. I can think of a bunch of examples right off the bat.
>>82830327
>Hanzo has two strips in his hair, and fires two dragons
>Genji has one strip and fires one dragon
Pottery, like sake in the wind
>>82831328
Probably not though.
The action scenes look real good. Everything else...
>>82831481
>mfw full lobby of Soldier 76's
i hope the game is as fun as the beta was.
>>82830892
>And Hanzo's gonna be like, 'Man, fuck you.'
>>82830327
Man, I like the game, but I just couldn't give a fuck about the characters or setting. It feels way too much like they just had a meeting and were like
>So, what kind of things do people like?
>Ninjas!
>If there's a ninja, we have to have a samurai.
>Cowboys are better.
>Everyone loves monkeys.
>Robots. We can do a couple different kinds.
>Mad Max did pretty well last year. Maybe we can have some post apocalyptic Australians.
>...Does that really work with the setting we have ri-
>Waifus!
>Ooh, I like that. What kind of waifus?
>...Timid? In a baggy parka?
>Very Velma. What else?
>Spunky Girl, Muscle Girl, Gamer Girl, Femme Fatale.
>Good work. Tomorrow, Lets try to work in any ethnicities we're missing.
>>82830327
>Real life is not like the stories our father told us!
I really like that for some reason.
>>82830892
Local man predicts future
>>82831995
That was the actual thought process of character designs in overwatch I hear.
These shorts have great production values, are long enough that they have plenty of time to make us care about the characters and their world, yet they are so fucking bland.
>>82832104
>>82832172
Everything about this game makes it feel like the marketing team was in charge of writing and design instead of actual writers and designers.
>>82832237
The scary thing is it seems to work pretty well.
>>82832329
How much story do you need for a competitive shooter?
>>82832371
Not much, given how successful Team Fortress 2 was, and still sort of is.
>>82832371
If TF2 is any indication, a small amount, with a vague setting and simple characters so people can project whatever the hell they want on it.
>>82831995
And I'm 100% cool with this. I'm a little discomforted with the popularity of Overwatch and that they're kind of aiming for the tumblr, 'person who claims they're such a hardcore nerd but really aren't' crowd, but shit, it looks like a fun game and at least it TRIES to be more than just 'Generic FPS Game #4546577'.
At least the characters have more personality and are more memorable than most other FPS protagonists.
>>82832172
It's mind boggling how such high production values would be used on some of the cheesiest writing ever.
>>82832458
>And I'm 100% cool with this.
>Only I'm not, here's why.
>>82832371
You don't NEED any. I just find it depressing when a company spends hundreds of millions of dollars to develop a game and decides that hiring an actual writer isn't worth it.
>>82831995
The characters are the best part about this game though.
>>82832300
I bet you think Senran games are the best thing ever.
>>82832518
What do you think a professional writer could have done differently? Overwatch is just fun, gimmicky characters in cartoon stereotype land.
>>82832517
It has more to do with the people who like Overwatch, honestly. They're like the people who 'LOOOOVE' video games because they've played Skyrim, right?
>>82832583
Not the best ever, but fun enough time killers.
>>82832371
A bit more if you want to put such a heavy focus on your characters. They could have gone 'Dirty Bomb' and just gave different class mechanics to specific named characters.; But the fact that they actually take the time to create back stories for each character, the setting, and their motivations, then toss it all out the window when they fight/kill each other over a bomb in some-random-place-istan feels like there is a disconnect somewhere and it is a major turn off for me.
It just feels like someone poured so much time and effort into making a meal that was delicious and had many complex flavors, then someone else came along and dumped a bag of doritos on the whole thing.
>>82832583
No, but I do think Miyabi is best girl.
>>82832627
It does feel that way.
>>82832580
>>82832458
They're fun, but... I dunno. Maybe I'm just being a pretentious asshole, but it feels like they lack depth. They're all just cliches that were obviously chosen to have as wide an appeal as possible, rather than any artistic or creative direction.
And in any case,
>have more personality and are more memorable than most other FPS protagonists.
is setting the bar really fucking low.
Maybe I'll change my mind once more secondary material comes out, but I doubt it.
>>82832711
I have heard this a couple times now from different people and I just do not understand it. It is a multiplayer fps. The lore stuff is just extra.
>>82830892
>This wasn’t so much about being like “Look at me, I’m real good at telling the future” and more of, “Please help me give a shit about this game and it’s characters. I was really excited for it, and you continue to dash my hopes of any of these assholes being interesting.”
This desu
kura waga teki go fuck yourself
>>82832806
So why bother putting so much effort into it? It feels like a waste to get people so invested in the game's backstory only so you have to ignore it when you play.
Hell even TF2 acknowledges the backstory of characters in game the way mercenaries work off each other, or even new maps that correspond to comics/movies made outside the game.
>>82830892
The only things he got right were the two brothers fighting which anyone could fucking predict. The setting and other shit he got from the trailer a few months back. He's not Nostradamus or anything.
>Setting is modern cape comics look a like
>/co/ is shocked the writting is pretty much 101 cape comics
>murloc ramen
>>82832763
>They're fun, but... I dunno. Maybe I'm just being a pretentious asshole, but it feels like they lack depth. They're all just cliches that were obviously chosen to have as wide an appeal as possible, rather than any artistic or creative direction.
They're like fighting game characters. They're meant to be as ostentatious and eye-catching as possible, essentially being as memorable as a character can possibly be with as little character depth as possible. They're designed to make you want to play them and maybe not so much that they might be deep, complicated, conflicted characters.
And that's fine.
Speaking of, it's kinda bullshit how SFV launched with about as much content as Overwatch, but people bitched and complained about the lack of SP in SFV. I guess since Overwatch is a FPS, it just gets a free pass by the West then.
>>82832884
He was still pretty painfully close to how it played out, down to the suits doing crime stuff, the honor bomb, and Hanzo going 'fuck you'.
>>82833035
>Overwatch has more characters than launch SFV
SFV was a fucking train wreck.
>>82830892
>Danger Doom beat in the back
>>82833013
Damn...
>>82832512
>>82832172
It's not just in how expensive it looks, either. The framing, the cinematography, the way everything is animated, the visual storytelling, all of it is great.
It's just that the stories themselves have zero thought going into them.
>>82833064
>Suits doing crime stuff
They were guarding their compound.
>Honor bomb
Paying respects to your dead brother is a honor bomb?
>Hanzo going fuck you
It ends with Hanzo considering the words of his brother. He does say what essentially is "fuck you" only for Genji to make him rethink that.
Genji has the last word.
So is Hanzo the only character (aside from Reaper, Widowmaker, and the two Aussies) who isn't part of Team Overwatch?
I feel the game needs a few more villains or neutrals if that's the case.
>/co/ complains about bland writing in Overwatch
>loves cheesy Marvel movies
>>82830892
What, all he got right was that they were gonna fight which was obvious and the setting due to it being a map.
>>82833035
No, that's one of the main point of contention with Overwatch. People say it is the best, then other point out there is no single player.
It's free pass isn't because it's an FPS. It gets a free pass because
1) Abundance of ass for sweatgoblins like >>82833013
2)It's Blizzard so it has a rabid fanbase. The devs could shit in a bag, call it a game and it would still sell a million copies with glowing reviews.
>>82833035
People expect finished games and working servers for 60$. Who knew?
>>82833190
Neither Symmetra nor Lucio are from Overwatch.
Symmetra is even a anti-villain I hope they develop more.
why would you showcase the story in a game that doesn't have a story, or even a consistent theme
they're trying hard to make a fps imitation but dota 2 and league of legends have more interesting characters
>>82833085
>SFV was a fucking train wreck.
The only people who seem to think this are people who don't play Street Fighter or fighting games in general. They wanted to release it for the FGC, which hurt them in the end, b/c they didn't get those sweet casual sales.
The game itself is fine. I think all said and done, all the doom and gloom will be proven untrue once more content comes on the way and people slowly start to buy it more once it's more complete.
>>82833194
We expect it in Marvel. Overwatch is coming from the same people that made Warcraft and Diablo. So that means they have some people in there who know how to make an interesting story. Where the hell are they?
>>82833194
>expecting /co/ to not slurp up MCU dick
>>82833256
isn;t the game 40 USD?
>>82833396
>Where the hell are they?
The Frozen Throne was 13 years ago, anon.
>>82833288
I do play fighting games, something I couldn't do with SFV servers back on release anon.
>>82832873
I think I like Tf2's approach to lore as not really having one and letting the fans fill it in.
>>82833427
Doesn't really answer where they went? Were they sacrificed to Satan for high sales or what?
>>82830327
Wasn't that bad. And I didn't even play Overwatch.
>>82833396
There will probably be expansions and new game modes that add to the lore. They probably just wanted to get the game out there as fast as possible.
>>82833485
Either that or they just moved companies like normal people do. People don't tend to work at the same company all their life.
>>82833467
TF2 knows what it is, and has fun with it. Overwatch is Mad Max meets The Matrix meets Pacific Rim meets Yakuza, and instead of being a parody poking fun at all the cliches it's working with, it's trying to be a serious story.
>>82831180
thats what the nexus is in heroes of the storm. all of the blizzard ip's are there and medivh is being added soon
>>82833461
Alright fine, the netcode does suck.
But it's fundamentally a great fighting game, even better than SFIV in some areas.
Though Capcom could do better with the release of the DLC characters. How about character trailers and release dates before the day they come out?
So who's gonna be your main?
>>82833125
>>82832172
Blizzard animations have always been good. Go back to Warcraft with Thrall and Grom killing Mannoroth.
>>82833614
Eh I don't think Overwatch takes itself too seriously. Have you heard the characters in game quotes?
>>82833700
Not him. By far the most useless hero in the game.
>>82833741
It might be reference to the seriousness portrayed in the shorts. Especially Widomaker's where it pulls a 180 and goes from light hearted action, to edgy.
Not quite as bad as Loss, but in the same vein. It just leaves people confused. Some think it's fine, others not so much.
>>82830892
LOL dude this is great
>>82833614
Well, it has a few moments of drama and compared to TF2's outright comedy I suppose it's more serious, but it knows it's cheesy superhero action at the end of the day.
>>82833700
I didn't play the Beta, but I always aim to main the British character if there is one. So Tracer and her internet breaking ass.
>>82833700
>>82833811
>It just leaves people confused. Some think it's fine, others not so much.
So basically it has MCU syndrome.
>>82833874
Essentially yeah.
>>82833826
Which makes "Alive" feel even more out of place.
>>82833614
Nah, it's not serious at all. It's pretty tongue in cheek and over-the-top. Even this short was almost parodic in nature.
>>82833792
Winston is really good senpai. In the running for best tank. Your goal is disruption not kills
>>82833913
Villians killing people is hardly out of place in cheesy action films.
>>82833913
>Which makes "Alive" feel even more out of place.
Alive was still pretty over-the-top.
>>82834073
Killing people, no.
Winning in the end? That is more out of place.
>>82833913
Only confusing thing about that Alive short for me is that the dude she kills is playable right?
I mean, yeah, he's a robot. But it seems to be portraying that the in-universe robots are just like people and can't just swap their AI into another body if killed.
>>82834133
No, his brother is the playable one.
>>82833415
it is but when you go to buy it Blizzard pushes the 60 bucks version in your face so much a lot of people don't even notice the 40 option. those $20 gives you like 5 skins or something stupid like that, not worth it.
>>82834133
It's still different from the atmosphere of the other shorts. It created a disconnect because there was less consistency in the setting.
>First was the teaser trailer
That established it as a sort of lighthearted game setting
>Next was Recall
Adding some character depth to Winston and generally reinforcing this is a 'good guys win' sort of setting
>Then Alive comes out
Suddenly nope.
>Now Dragons
Hang on, what the fuck was all that in Alive?
>Next will be-
No, what the fuck was that? Bad guy wins? What was all that hopeful shit about looking to a brighter future and stuff?
>>82834306
Are you...are you people serious?
The tone seems more or less consistent to me. It's like a superhero action movie or an action cartoon. Of course there's going to be a bit of serious stuff there, but at the end of the day, the atmosphere is supposed to be FUN.
Think Indiana Jones or something.
>>82830327
>Only guy Hanzo kills is an Omnic
racist
Why not just have reaper's cloak and smoke be bright red? It would make him slightly less edgy and look better.
>>82834559
That's a tazer, he's not dead.
>>82834559
I like that this video showed that Hanzo is a stupid asshole, it really works with how the Hanzo players are in real life.
>>82834660
You mean bow and arrow players in general.
>>82834660
>>82834695
>these salty fags mad because they can't dodge his ultimategit gud
>>82834624
Because he's backIN BLACK
>>82834695
Huntsman takes skill
>>82834306
>>Next was Recall
>Adding some character depth to Winston and generally reinforcing this is a 'good guys win' sort of setting
>>Then Alive comes out
>Suddenly nope.
I'm sorry but this is the hackiest critique I've ever read
"A good guy wins sort of setting" are you fucking kidding me
>>82832300
NIPPLE
>>82834306
Sometimes the bad guys just need to score a big victory to make you remember that they shouldn't be taken lightly.
Also, in the case of Alive, it adds more fuel to the Widow Vs Widowmaker feud, and also builds the foundations for a Zenyatta Vs Widowmaker one.
>>82833396
>Warcraft and Diablo
>somehow deepest lore and not cliched cheesey writing like everything else Blizzard has done
>>82834728Lucksman
>>82834306
>The bad guys can't win, not once.
>>82834728
>implying Crysis 3 has a slowass dragon that's easy to dodge unless you're a turret character
Way to miss the point.
>>82834728
I've only seen Bastions get killed by Hanzo's Ultimate, so it's true you need to git gud to not get hit by it.
>>82831995
>>Spunky Girl, Muscle Girl, Gamer Girl, Femme Fatale.
They're doing the Lord's work.
There is literally nothing in this short worse or less predictable than something you might see in Kung-Fu Panda, an excellent series of gorgeous fun movies.
>>82835305
>yfw the Junkrat+Roadhog supplementary material ends up with Kung-Fu Panda-tier humor while everyone else ends up with the philosophical crap about life-long choices
>>82832512
That's Blizzard. Just wait until World of Warcraft movie comes out.
They are a company so far up their own ass that they think the guy that writes, "Kill 10 rats" is a real wordsmith.
>>82830327
Alot of high production values for a really boring game.
>>82835448
>Alot of high production values for a really boring game.
But my god the fan art. And the porn of course.
>>82835377
>Not liking Junkrat and Roadhog's bro-tier dynamic going around blowing up hostages and strangling CEOs
>>82830892
This was pretty accurate in a satirical sense
>>82835502
>implying them blowing up hostages and strangling CEOs can't be Jack Black-tier humorous
MUH REALISM
>>82835502
>implying it isn't going to be them holding up a convenience store until military police gets involved
Overwatch's entire design aesthetic, one that literally dictates everything from the sound design in the gameplay, to the characters themselves, is just slightly more cyberpunk versions of every kind of genre cliche. The cowboy. The grizzled patriot. The femme fatale. The ninja.
So I mean the troped out writing is just part and parcel with that. If that's not your thing cool, I find it charming and comfy. If you're expecting to break the storytelling to break any molds though, I don't know what you're exactly hoping to expect here.
>>82834728
>Implying it takes any skill to play NormieWatch
>>82836096
I'm sorry that Battleborn is DOA and that TF2 took 7 years to put in matchmaking, my friend.
>>82835377
>>82835502
>>82835638
>>82835702
>Australian duo holds up a convenience store in NYC, SWAT gets involved
>Images of Australian duo fighting a gorilla and mysterious soldier pop up on the internet, bear traps involved
>Australian duo caught strangling directing board for Vishkar, escapes through windows of 50 story building
>Australian duo holds hostages in exchange for ransom money, hostages returned covered in black soot and the smell of gasoline
>Australian duo found vacationing in Brazil, gets into a fight with rollerblading DJ
>>82830327
>"Perhaps I am a fool, to think there is still hope for you."
>"But I do."
I knew I picked the right character to main. Genji a best boy.
>>82830832
Personally I'm hoping for a telekinetic or something of the like.
REINHARDT SHORT WHEN?
TORBJORN SHORT WHEN?
Basically the only two characters I care about.
>Mercy player only heals her boyfriend and ignores everyone else
>>82834559
That was pretty bullshit. Samurai Jack rules I guess.
>>82830327
>Come home from a night of watching Kung fu movies
>See this
Man, I am a sucker for some honest to god ninja shit.
>tfw we'll probably never get a Zenyatta short
>>82836632
>tfw I only interested in bastion, junkman, and soldier
They won't get spotlight will they?
>>82836518
>>82836191
Now I want a Rodhog+ Junkrat cinematic short.
>>82831995
There's absolutely nothing wrong with that you teenage cynic. Playing tropes straight is a refreshing change from over-designed. convoluted horse shit.
>>82835122
>>82834900
>>82835004
>>82834369
Well that's what I'm guessing based on the attention it gets. First two shorts, general consensus is that it looks good. Then Alive comes out and suddenly everyone is polarized. Either you are an Overwatch shill thinking they can do no wrong, or you're some dumbass that can't see the depth of Overwatch's story.
Or maybe I've been on /v/ too long, but from what I see Alive is when you start seeing a lot more opinions.
>>82836906
>>82836927
Quite a few characters will probably be squeezed into the same short.
But I reckon Soldier 76 will get one where he's the focus.
>>82830327
Isn't this just those two ninja from GI Joe?
>>82837067
Soldier: 76 vs Reaper is confirmed
>>82834306
I honestly see no drop in consistency.
A bad guy won a battle. It happens, even in more cartoony upbeat stories. It's not like there was some kind of horrible torture scene or something, or an ultimate badguy victory forever type situation.
I don't see how you could get an incoherent tone from this.
I think I may actually preorder for babby Winston.
>>82836191
>these are newspaper main stories that cut to Junkrat in an interrogation room with an omnic police officer
>Junkrat answers the questions as honestly as possible, with the cop getting increasingly angry at how nonchalant he's being
>cop gets absolutely brutal when Junkrat brings up the whole "Mendatta" thing, and throws Junkrat into the corner
>suddenly the wall collapses, cop gets thrown out and lands on the concrete ten feet below
>Roadhog jumps off of the cherrypicker truck he stole, and tosses Junkrat a bag of drivethru fast food
>cuts to the cop recovering from the fall, and looks up to see Junkrat and Roadhog making their escape in the cherrypicker, with Junkrat sloppily eating his food in the bucket
>>82834559
Well it's not like you can give a robot a concussion, so shorting their system out is probably the next best thing.
I actually wonder if Omnics have to be continuously active to be 'alive'. Otherwise what good is assassinating one if they can just be fixed and reactivated?
>>82833021
second best food right next to...
>>82830506
Widowmakers actually pisses me off for telling us absolutely fuck all about her character and wasting her movie slott
>hurr she likes to kill things
>>82837447
It's not like they could've made a movie with her actual origin considering she was brainwashed into killing her husband like that hentai
>>82830892
>Now that I have infiltrated my lair, I can plant this honor bomb
>>82833700
Haven't played the beta, but Genji, D. Va, and Reinhardt look like the most fun.
I'm really impressed by how fun and wildly different they all seem to play.
>>82833270
DOTA and LoL characters aren't even skeleton characters.
As shallow as Tracer and Winston are, they showed more character in that first cinematic trailer way back when the game was announced than the entire cast of DOTA2 and LoL put together.
>>82831095
You mean 3 anon.
>>82837493
Yes you fucking can.
Not everyone is going to read their bio on the fucking website or want to. Blizzard should know this
>>82838178
No, I meant that the fact that her entire bio is almost a 1 to 1 with a hentai would make it hard to adapt in the family friendly atmosphere they've been going with.
>>82838233
Again, yes. You fucking can.
It's called 'getting crap passed the radar'. You don't need to actually show it, just make passing implications
Also
>1 to 1 with a hentai
How do you know this?
>>82838233
Look man if Steven Universe can get away with rape Blizzard can put as much hentai as they want.
Also fuck you don't talk about some hentai nobody knows what the fuck you're talking about without providing sauce nigga what the fuck, fuck you, don't give me a boner, don't give me a boner and walk away like it ain't no thing, fuck you.
REINHARDT SHORT WHEN?
>>82838336
>How do you know this?
I like to jack off frequently, is that a crime?
>>82838406
I've forgotten the name of it but some guy used to avatar-fag the main character from it back in the day. I will look into this and get back to you Anon.
The dialogue is a bit basic, but I don't know what you guys want to see in a 7 min short. It set out to establish what's the deal with Hanzo and Genji and it does that successfully.
>>82838233
I wasn't aware that she was raped by demons and weird tentacle things.
Where did you find this startling new information, anon?
>>82838591
>Hentai is only demons and tentacles!
I want this meme to die.
>>82838437
He got a comic short
>>82830327
Huh.
I like that Genji is a cool bro.
I was expecting him to be one of the edgier characters. Cyborg ninja with a grudge and such. I'd actually prefer to see him vs Reaper than Soldier:76 now.
>"I dunno Reyes maybe you should accept yourself for what you are now and stop living in the past and shit, and read less Shadow the Hedgehog fanfiction as well."
>>82838591
>>82838634
>>Hentai is only demons and tentacles!
It's a lot easier than explaining how I jerk off to anime women being brutalized and locked in rooms for long periods of time.
>>82837493
"Brainwashed to murder people" is a major plot point in two very prominent Disney-related films, one of which is dominating the box office right now.
>>82830892
>Japan gang man standing in a suit superimposed with the balcony Hanzo kills him from.
Incredible.
>>82838634
He's referencing Taimanin Asagi, which is very much demons and tentacles.
People are insisting that Widowmaker is based on her, as though every character who goes through brainwashing is somehow based on on obscure hentai MC. I guess we have Asagi to thank for Bucky now?
>>82838757
Ah, makes sense, but I don't get the connection.
>Bucky is a hentai-plot character
The amputee fetishists will love it.So do I.
>>82830892
HERE'S THE FUCKING SEQUEL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGjzzmHD9nk
>>82838757
To be fair he suite is also pretty similar to Asagi's
>>82838757
> I guess we have Asagi to thank for Bucky now?
>Aired: Feb 24, 2007 to Aug 23, 2008
>Bucky became Cap in 2008
I like that they unironically designed cliches. I'm tired of people who have to ground their characters or go out of their way to be different only for the character to fall back in gameplay-wise.
I want to play a Cowboy who has a fucking spur on his gun and BAMF on his belt.
>>82837408
Well in the case of that short, one could argue sending a message. You might not be able to perma-kill an Omnic; but blowing up their spiritual leader at a big unity rally is a great way to kill the mood.
>>82830892
How do I know this guy didn't make this after watching the real short?
>only human cast (plus monkey)
>no token furry girl
it's like blizzard doesn't want money
>>82839247
Because it was released before the real short was
>>82839290
>Zarya as a walking-talking bear
>>82833792
He requires coordination. Very good for establishing an objective foothold against teams that are lightly to moderately entrenched
>>82839290
>Blizzard announces the newest character
>it's a fucking female alligator in a robotic harness for humanish arms and legs, its little legs flailing about
![murloc_mage_by_gimaldinov-d55jg10[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/8REuJpT.png "murloc mage by gimaldinov-d55jg10[1]")
>>82839290
Apparently murlocs exist in the Overwatch universe, so maybe we'll get one as a character.
>>82839528
only if it's sharon and yolanda
>>82838702
well if I remember the lore right he used to be like that. hated his robotic parts for a while, probably listened to a lot of linken park or something but then discovered robo-Buddhism and presumably chilled out a lot after that.
>>82839844
>Genji's on a bus listening to his Linkin Park
>Zenyatta's sitting next to him, gets annoyed at how loud it is
>decides to introduce him to his robot religion because of that "punk attitude"
>>82839421
is this close enough
>>82840009
kinda looks like a Ben 10 ayy lmao
>>82830892
Wow he was able to guess the basic beats of the story line based on the fact that we've already been extensively told about their relationship and can guess basic storybeats that would go along with that?
Even then, he still manages to get their characterizations and motivations dead wrong.
-Hanzo beats up some mooks, an extremely common story framing technique for any kind of action series.
-The short takes place on Hanamura, literally anyone could've guessed this considering they used existing maps for the previous two shorts.
-Genji and Hanzo fight.
Woah, this dude is a regular fucking time wizard.
>>82834100
It's the spotlight for the character. They're supposed to look badass in their own spotlight.
Shit, you wanna watch a sniper/assassin spend 6 minutes NOT killing their target?
>>82840033
That's the point, the short could have been anything else, but Blizzard goes for the most predictable and generic shit. The fact that it's so unimpressive is the whole point, because it is so obvious.
Compare to TF2 shorts, which do more in less, in ways that are creative and entertaining. Blizzard shorts look nice. That's it.
>>82838702
>ninjas
>EVER being edgy
Only if they're female, otherwise, that's a common misconception. Ninjas are always the bro-iest of any ensemble cast. Without exception.
>>82840161
>the short could have been anything else
Why the fuck would it? They're introducing the basic characterization and dynamic between the two characters for a much wider audience of people then the spergs who actually read the lore pages on the website.
>Compare to TF2 shorts, which do more in less, in ways that are creative and entertaining.
With the exception of Meet the Medic, all of the Meet the Team shorts follow the exact same formula, come the fuck off it.
>>82840161
Everyone predicted the Pyro one.
Too racist 5me
>>82840161
The point is he got nothing right.
His only correct prediction was that Hanzo and Genji would fight each other. Every single thing he predicted about their dialogue and the general tone/pace of the short was wrong.
>>82840228
>Why the fuck would it?
So it wouldn't be fucking boring.
>all of the Meet the Team shorts follow the exact same formula
Meet The Engineer is nothing like Meet The Spy. Meet the Sniper is incredibly different from Meet the Scout. Meet the Heavy and Meet the Soldier aren't even talking to the same person.
>>82840319
He also predicted the opening with Hanzo sneaking into one of his family's bases and taking out some Japanese crime guys hanging out in suits.
>>82840319
>His only correct prediction was that Hanzo and Genji would fight each other
And that Hanzo would fight throw some Japanese guards at the beginning, and the way they all fuck off at the end.
> Every single thing he predicted about their dialogue and the general tone/pace of the short was wrong.
Such level of nitpicking at an intentionally vague and casual improvisation could only be done by a Blizzard intern.
>>82840366
>So it wouldn't be fucking boring.
It wasn't m8.
Meet the Spy is the only one that flips the formula, where the Spy is talking about ANOTHER Spy instead of talking about himself. All of the Meet the Team shorts are them simply talking to an unknown camera crew about their own eccentricities intercut with them utilizing their abilities. The difference between Dragons and Alive is more stark than the difference between Meet the Scout and Meet the Heavy.
>>82833013
I love how Widowmaker looks like she's jumping on a TRAMPoline instead.
>>82838757
Widowmakers outfit is incredibly similar to Asagi's. She even as the same skin-colour as the corrupted Asagi version.
>>82840366
Consider: the TF2 shorts are comical introductions to singular characters. They're not really working with an overall narrative of any kind. They're not establishing where these characters are in their lives, because at that point there was no continuity to their existence.
These shorts have to establish where these characters are, continue with the ongoing theme of Overwatch stuff re-emerging and the world changing, etc etc etc.
I love the TF2 shorts, but expecting these to be like them is silly.
>>82840454
>It wasn't m8.
Do you get extra money in your Blizzard paycheck for lies. I'm a little short on money and I'd love to be able to shill for a living.
>>82840568
A-Accusations of shilling on 4chan?? I'm reeling, how will I ever recover from such a devastating riposte.
>>82839151
According to Zenyatta's in-game lines, Mondatta is actually dead. I think the justification is that their religion believes in robots having souls and rebooting their soul is akin to necromancy, but it's entirely possible I'm lying.
>>82840424
>And that Hanzo would fight throw some Japanese guards at the beginning
Sure. One extra thing.
>and the way they all fuck off at the end.
Except he predicted they'd leave the... temple? whatever... and have some sort of conversation, and Hanzo would get the last word in. He predicted Genji would be pissed about being killed, that he'd reveal himself immediately, that Hanzo would be a dickhead in response.
The narrative we got was not that.
>>82840523
Roadhog and Junkrat could easily be silly since they have no direct involvement with the organization, aside from being international criminals.
>>82838902
>>82830892
And then there is this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn14Jzwo4Mw
>>82840009
>no little limbs being almost useless
Not cute enough, but it's close to the concept.
>>82840665
>these guys sure are wreaking havoc all over the globe, should we deal with them?
>nah, I'm sure interpol will get them eventually
Old Overwatch really was broken.
Here let me predict the next Batman movie:
-Batman shows up at like an abandonded circus.
-He beats up The Joker's mooks who are hanging around
-Batman and The Joker fight
-Joker says something maybe about how they compliment each other.
Pretend I set this to SFM of Arkham City characters. I'll take my hundreds of thousands of YouTube views.
>>82840297
That ninja is JAPANESE??? How racist can blizzard get???
>>82830832
I made magic based character concepts for every hero class and this makes me so goddamn happy
>>82840788
>not Hanzo killing only the Omnic
5/10, got me to reply
>>82840665
Junkrat's shtick lorewise is having some sort of legendary Australian "treasure," which is apparently prolific enough that Hanzo and Reaper both know about it. You could very easily have some story with that and not some random jokes.
>>82840742
I think both Junkrat and Roadhog's backstories take place after Overwatch fell.
>>82840424
Okay, so this guy's predictions:
>Hanzo beats up some yakuza dudes
Check.
>Hanzo is blowing up his old home to regain his HONORRRR
Nope.
>Genji will show up, declare that Hanzo killed him, and he pissed about it
Nope.
>Hanzo won't care
Nope.
>then kung fu
Nope, it's already started. But they do fight, so half a check.
>Hanzo ults
Check.
>and then they leave
Nope.
>Genji will say some shit about wishing he'd been a better brother
Nope.
>Hanzo doesn't give a shit again
Nope.
You have to seriously stretch shit to make his prediction accurate.
>>82840848
>killing
He used an electricity arrow because he knew it would knock out the omnic. If he used it on a person it would have killed them. It's not like robots have pressure points he can take advantage of to knock them out.
>>82840862
>I think both Junkrat and Roadhog's backstories take place after Overwatch fell.
One would think that some former Overwatch member would try to go after them and they get arrested for breaking the laws that formed after Overwatch's fall.
>>82840916
>knocking out a robot
>a robot
Keep telling yourself that. If it's an Omnic following Robot-Buddhism, he'd think he'd have a soul and would not want to be reactivated.
>>82840916
>robots don't have pressure points
But they would have maintenance panels with a series of switches or wires you could wreak havoc upon, and since most Omnics are likely to be one of a few mainstream units, it would be easy to remember where those panels are, hmm?
>>82833396
Metzen is still writing everything. :)
>>82830832
I am willing to bet actual money that we will get a Magical Girl type hero.
>>82833700
>maining
LoLbabby pls
>>82841163
Blizzard is at best when they dive deep into writing earnest cheese that scoops on the cliches extra hard.
They're at their absolute worse when they try to tell EPIN STORIES WITH CONSEQUENCES
Overwatch is good. Diablo 3 is bad.
>>82833700
Roadhog and Junkrat, had the most fun with them.
>>82841305
Overwatch is about as cliche as it can get. Literally every character is a walking stereotype and the overall story is basically a Watchmen ripoff.
>>82833700
Zenyatta, Mercy, Soldier: 76
call me when there's the Mei short
>>82841422
It'll be a comic of her trying to understand the changes that come with Overwatch's disbanding during her cryosleep and being the only surviving Eco-Watchpoint member.
>>82841422
Mei's already short
on chromosomes
>>82836927
Junkman had his own comic.
>>82836632
As did Reinhardt.
>>82833792
And yet the most handsome.
>>82841422
the fat fuck deserves nothing but removal from game.
>>82836632
D.Va short when?
That's what I wanna know.
>>82833396
>>82833396
Dude come the fuck on, WC and Diablo NEVER had amazing dialogue. Atmosphere sure but the dialogues always been crap. And no, I don't mean D3 and WoW.
Go look at Starcraft even
>HEY MAN
is your exposition.
>>82839421
>>82840009
Fund it.
>>82841173
Also fund it.
>>82840568
>wah wah shills
gb2reddit
Anybody going to one of the theater screenings of the shorts? Someone in /owg/ confirmed that one of the swag bonuses is a code, and I'd like the code because I can't actually attend the screening because the closest theater is too far away for me to go.
If you could snag a few extra codes to give away, that would be, like, SO cool of you.
>>82833700
Pharah, Bastion, D.Va, and Mercy.
I may switch it up and go Mei on defense, though.
It's funny, for all of the talk about how predictable this is, when Genji was first being teased literally EVERYONE was saying that he was going to be another Shadow the Edgehog-esque character. Turns out he's a total bro and one of the friendliest, most well-adjusted characters in the game.
>>82842175
That's because we didn't know the cyborg ninja would be Zenyatta's disciple.
>>82842175
I was also genuinely surprised to find out that Hanzo is one of the game's villains.
>>82842175
I thought Soldier 76 was gonna be generic trash but I've really grown to like him.
>>82836927
I'm betting it will be similar to Hanzo Vs. Gengi. 76 and reaper were partners at one time and then something tragic happened and Reaper turned into a spooky ghost.
>>82833700
Reinhardt as tank, Lucio for support (Though I am learning Mercy), Torbjorn on defense, Tracer for assault/punishing defense teams that set a defensive line too far from the capture point.
>>82842667
> and then something tragic happened and Reaper turned into a spooky ghost.
Repear embraced his inner edge because he wanted to be the leader of Overwatch so he staged a coup and Overwatch HQ got blown the fuck up with him in it. 'Supposedly' Mercy's revive tech is what fucked him up into spook-man based on some lines in the game between the two.
>>82842796
>Fellow Manlet
He doesn't get enough respect.
D.Va is best Girl
>>82838406
>Steven Universe can get away with rape
What? When was there rape in SU?
>>82838406
>>82838467
It's taimanin asagi, anon.
>>82832713
That is some extremely good taste anone
>>82843061
It's... complicated.
One gem tricked another into fusion, with fusion being a stand in for sex.
>>82843204
The Fusion=sex metaphor kinda suffers when you can turn into a giant kaiju by having a treesome
>>82832458
Do you hear yourself talk?
>>82843204
>>82843357
The fusion=sex metaphor really only works with Steven since he can actually have sex.
Eventually.
>>82842833
What's wrong with being spoopy though? He seems to have it pretty well as a dead man
>>82843437
>He seems to have it pretty well as a dead man
Except he doesn't because he's hellbent on destroying everything Overwatch, which ends up reactivating Overwatch.
>>82843534
What if that was his plan all along?
>>82843645
>Reaper goes after all of Overwatch in order to get them to reactivate
>eventually redeems himself in the eyes of 76 and they become buds
It sounds like one of Metzens coke-fueled ideas.
>>82842971
Not enough people realize this.
>>82842971
Best girl is Pharah.
>>82841811
>wanting a short for the least interesting character in the entire game
Reminder that he is going to be the playable doomfist
>>82844867
I hope they pull a Genji and cyborg him up so they can wire the fist directly into his nervous system.
>>82842340
WE ARE ALL SOLDIERS NOW
>>82844867
need more of him, balls deep in the various overwatch girls
>>82844867
Ooh, that'd be rad.
I'd rather have that Soundquake guy the younger bro mentioned. Chest missiles!
The trolls in this thread seem pretty dedicated. I figured you guys would be on /v/.
>>82842971
There are no bad girls in OW.
>>82844867
I'm hoping for any QT3.14 boy. The women in Overwatch range from sexy to cute, but this is not the case for the men. Where's my equal gender representation, Blizzard?
>>82845376
>/ss/
Disgusting.
>>82843534
>>82843645
>>82844073
Dude, the short literally had reaper see the current and home locations of each of the overwatch heroes. Getting them reactivated, especially illegally reactivated, was all part of the plan.
>>82833013
Sauce on that Mei one pleaseeeeee
>>82846768
If you head on over to /gif/ or /aco/ you're 99.9% likely to come across it.
Nobody wanting Roadhog, Memehardt or Buddha Bot short.
You've fallen so far /co/.
So fucking far....
>>82847525
>Short where Zenyatta is training new converts when their temple is suddenly attacked by anti-Omnic terrorists
>Zenyatta and Genji team up to defeat them all
Blizzard pls
Also, are humans accepted into Zenyatta's religion? 'cause all the statues in the Nepal map is of robots. Did they just kick out all the Tibetans or something?
>>82847664
No idea.
I just want to see the best tanks and the best support before all the rest of the cast.
Soldier 76 might be alright too, since they'll most likely use him as a prop for expanding the overall lore and current setting.
>>82839421
Did I do a good job anon?
>>82840366
I'd argue that meet the spy is when they really started getting different.
Up until then they'd mostly been these interview style things.
Heavy, Soldier, Enginner, Demoman, Scout, then Sniper which is the apex of the interview format.
Then it Meet the Spy happened and the theme was intrigue.
Medic had this prequel angle to it.
then lastly pyro was everyone else's interviews and then a day from his perspective.
>>82847972
Now add some feminizing colors to the robot limbs.
Also, make her eye more confident looking. Gotta appeal to the feminists.
Let me get this straight, the robots revolt and start a revolution killing tons of people in the proces, which also leads to Australia becoming Mad Max. And now humans have decided they need to live together in peace with said murder bots, not counting monk bots, the minorkty? I don't buy it
>>82848136
We still accept germans after WW2, don't we?
>>82848215
Yes, but Germans didn't need rallies to be able to marry non-Germans.
Also, Germans aren't programmed robotsunless you want to argue about Nazi propaganda.
>>82833811
You can have lighthearted action with some serious moments
>>82844624
THIS
>>82841644
And? Why can't he have both?
>>82842796
>Offense
Reaper or Mcree
>Defense
TORBJORN and I want to git gud with Hanzo
>Tank
REINHARDT and D.Va
>Support
Zenyata or Mercy
>>82840523
The TF2 plot is incredibly different and unpredictable too you know, reading the comics I have no idea what comes next.
They introduced the TFC guys, then they killed the sniper, then there was some naked soldier covered in honey wrestling bear men, etc.
>>82833700
I have a few characters that I enjoyed a lot in the beta, but the game is designed around counter-picking so this is a bad habit to get into.
>>82833700
>maining
>in overwatch
you will be the cancer to destroy pugs in this game.
>>82839310
Did the short have a trailer?
>>82833700
Depends on the match. But I really would refuse to play Pharah, bastion or D.Va.
I feel like D.Va has nothing to add to teamplay,
>>82833700
D.va. I really enjoy Reaper, and do really well as him, but I can't live with being a Reaper main.
Really enjoyed Tracer and Roadhog as well, haven't played Pharah or Lucio yet, but I imagine I'll probably enjoy them a lot.
>>82848723
Back when they made the shorts there was no plot.
The TF2 comic is great, but it didn't exist back then.
>>82849357
yeah, this. It had parts of 'Dragons' and of the upcoming Soldier 76 short as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJxpa6H1050
>>82849468
Nah. D.va's weak and needs to be nerfed, but she's also a really versatile character and really helpful on both offense and defense. She's a great distraction, and really good at fucking up solid defenses and pushes. Charging/destroying bastians, messing up Reinhardts, and she's one of the best classes for shutting down ultimates.
I cringed when I read D. Vas bio, a totally awesome gamer that streams her battles to her fans, and is the best mech user because she games hardcore
Also she's Korean of course
>>82848136
Yeah, I don't like it either. It's like Germany in WWII but 10 times worse. It rubs me the wrong way how enthusiastic about omnics some characters are and how they're forcing the mindset that "killing" them is equal to murder.
>>82849490
>blonde
>blue eyes
Is she Aryan?
>>82848136
Replace omnics with human slaves and bam, suddenly you'd be 100% on their side.
>>82850044
That's the point, they're not human. It's actually pretty much a SJW bullshit that went too far with some lunatics wanting people to believe that robots are humans.
>>82850082
Also, the more I think about it the more bullshit it seems. Just think about it I bet some omnic justice warriors in-universe will argue that you're opressing your blender when you're making a smoothie.
>>82850044
They're not human though.
Not tribe. Bad.
>>82850082
If they're sapient and intelligent, it doesn't really matter if they're not human. Did District 9 trigger you as well?
What if you replaced omnics with a previously undiscovered humanoid species? Or elves or something?
>>82850082
>SJW bullshit
The question of whether an artificial being can be sapient or should have rights is far, FAR older than the modern SJW movement.
I'm going to ask you this plainly: do you post on /tg/, and do you frequent HFY threads?
>>82849883
Welcome to current Blizzard
You guys.
It's a saturday morning cartoon riff.
It's not supposed to be DEEP. It's supposed to be eye-catching and viscerally engaging, and all four shorts accomplish that with aplomb.
The TF2 shorts aren't exactly Hemmingway but no one complained then either
>>82850248
Blizzard's tone is kind of like Pixar but stripped of all wit and humour.
Then add in a bit of weird militarism and bam. You got it.
>>82849992
She is Swiss-German yes
>>82841811
Just make it a D.Va/Mei combo.
>>82833700
I don't main, but tend to favor JUSTICE.
>>82851643
Pharah, McCree, or 76?
>>82851643
The one RAINS FROM ABOVE.
>>82849883
And she's from 부산. These are all positive notes.
>>82832458
Let the Tumblr kids come. Overwatch is also gunning hard for the TF2 player base, and MOBA players that enjoy FPS games. They'll last a few weeks before they get bored of dying constantly and go back to playing walking simulators and Undertale.
>>82848723
Wait sniper died?? Is that why he wasn't in Expiration Date?
>>82851195
That's make me remember, will they still censor Tracer's booty?
>>82833700
Offense: Genji (Main main)
Defense: Junkrat
Tank: Winston
Support: Zenyatta
>>82843395
Reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea_2RdQqshE
>>82836632
>Reinhardt
>60+ year old Man from Frankfurt
>doesn't speak with a ridiculous German accent
Missed opportunity, he's still great though
>Torbjörn
>from Gothenburg
>not named Glen
>not speaking exclusively in puns
Not realistic, and he really doesn't have anything close to a Swedish accent.
>>82830506
>weird things she was told about spiders as a kid.
Maybe that's just how people do it in France
>>82851914
Can you swap the client to use another language or does it involve a ridiculous number of hoops to jump through?
>>82851914
>Spiders
>>82851936
Not that I know of, and honestly you only have to lose when playing in a different language because you wont know when some character activate their ultimate.
>>82852013
Wouldn't take that long to get used to it.
>>82848136
Apparently the Omnics did not go murderbot of their own accord, but due to some unknown outside influence.
And Australia became Mad Max due to what was essentially terrorism born of political clusterfuckery, not the bots nuking it.
Blizzard can pump all the money they want into them, these Overwatch shorts are just plain soulless
>>82833035
>And that's fine.
Absolutely.
When there's not much opportunity for storytelling, I'd rather have a shallow but memorable character than a subtle, deep one.
>>82833035
But SF5 launched with only 16 characters, not 21.
>>82852110
I think they're pretty cool, but I'm ridiculously easy to please.
>>82851869
I still don't understand the uproar over that.
Wasn't it literally just
>Forum user, in feedback thread, mentions that they didn't feel the pose was very in character
>Dev sees it
>Dev agrees
>Pose gets removed
>Reddit fucking loses it, for some reason? Because "muh censorship"?
>>82852110
They are genuinely awful. I find them painful to watch.
>>82852110
It's amusing watching a board that jerks off to Geoff Johns comics and MCU movies try and come to this conclusion. Whatever short comings come along with the writing, the love and care that comes with the craftsmanship of these shorts speaks to how much Blizzard actually cares about what they're doing.
>>82851820
He got shot, then was brought back to life by the Medic, to the anger of the Team Fortress Classic guys who the Medic's now working for.
It was pretty funny.
Barbarian character when?
>>82852231
You have my interest. Explain further.
>>82835427
>Just wait until World of Warcraft movie comes out.
But Blizzard did not write the script for that one.
>>82852172
I'd actually compare these shorts to Geoff Johns comics actually. Kind of competently told stories that hit the exact same beats that you'd expect them with almost no surprises and no real intellect, but are told with the utmost reverence for the material.
>>82830327
Why is Blizzard so much better at making animated shorts than games?
>>82852110
>Blizzard can pump all the money they want into them, these Overwatch shorts are just plain soulless
It's literally just advertisement videos. FREE Advertisement videos. What are you expecting, Oscar worthy stories?
>>82852271
Besides, it's not a World of Warcraft movie. It's just a Warcraft movie. It has far too few pandas to be WoW.
>>82837408
>>82839151
See the thing is the religious robot in the game argues that robots has sous, like all living beings. So they don't go for the
>If I'm dead then just fix me up and put in my backup I made the other week
Route, because that would violate their religious belief. How can you have a soul if you can make a backup of yourself?
>>82851869
They actually made it sexier.
>>82852290
Who cares about Pandas
Space goats is where it's at
>>82852287
Tf2 shorts were funny and memorable. I watched this one yesterday and already forgot most of it
>>82852324
Yeah, technically the complaint wasn't "She's showing off her bottom!" but "Her showing-off-her-bottom isn't Tracer enough!" But by the time it went newsworthy, everyone rallied to their familiar banners and roared into internet battle.
>>82852359
We went from generic pose to Pin-up girl. God bless you crazy Tracer fan and Blizzard
>>82852392
The second one looks far more like something I'd expect to see painted on the side of a fighter plane
Which is fitting, for Tracer
>>82852359
The complaint was honestly very reasonable. But everyone had to be all "WE HAVE TO BE FEMINISTS" or "WE HAVE TO HATE FEMINISTS" about every fucking thing, it was obnoxious.
>>82852392
Like the new pose is an improvement in every single way. It's more in character, it's more dynamic, even if she's showing off her butt it's referenced from a fucking plane pin-up, it's iconic and makes Tracer seem like she's making a cheeky reference since she's a pilot too. And the new pose, you're looking at the whole pose, you could focus on the butt if you want but the pose isn't designed so that the butt is the ONLY interesting thing to look at like the old one was.
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