If Baron Zemos plan actually was to reform his elite paramilitary death squad with the five frozen Winter Soldiers, how far do you think he could have gotten before they were all put down?
>>82602971
My question is if they were so amazing at toppling societies is why were they never used for it
>>82602981
WE AT HYDRA BIDE OUR TIME
WE BIDED TOO MUCH
>>82602981
They were clearly unstable and prone to turning on their handlers anon.
>>82602971
not very far considering the supersoldiers were all easily killed by one regular man with a pistol while sleeping
>>82602981
The prophecy called for 3 gods falling from the sky. They assumed gods was a literal thing, and not the 3 helicarriers
>>82602992
Yeah, that one time they did it proves it in movie logic.
>>82602999
Surely you can see how much more difficult it would be if they were awake
>>82603000
How many times would you need to have them turn on you before you felt it was proven they are unstable?
>>82603023
At least 3.
>Once is an isolated incident
>Twice is a co-incidence
>Third time's the charm
>>82603000
What prophecy?
>>82603030
Three in a row or three total?
Cause like if they do it twice and then are fine the next 20 times before another it might be ok still.
>>82603023
>>82602992
all five of them turned unstable. there's more than a coincidence.
six if we count Blonsky.
seven if we count Red Skull
even Captain America himself is difficult to control. The doctor knew the result will inevitably uncontrollable, but he wanted him to be uncontrollably good.
ironically bucky is the most successful super soldier since he's perfectly obedient.
>>82603084
Hulk was one to in the MCU
>>82603084
The serum amplifies natural tendencies. Steve was always looking for a cause to fight, but he had good intentions and wanted to protect people. His agenda was always his own, though.
Red Skull was a crazed nazi. The other 5 winter soldiers were ultra-violent killers before the serum. It's obvious why they all got even worse after.
Bucky was just a loyal friend and soldier. He's always been a follower. The serum really fucked him over good.
Where were Colonel Zemo and EKO Skorpion when the Sokovian Hydra forces were being assaulted by the Avengers? Surely Strucker would have called in the most elite tactical unit they had in such a situation
>>82603135
Lets play a game. How would the serum affect the other members of the MCU?
bucky was always bitch. now he's a super bitch.
>>82603217
>Tony now lives permanently in a bottle of jacks and whores
>Black widow gets even more paranoid and constantly shifts identity's
>Hawkeye becomes a near suicidal daredevil
>War machine develops peroids of empathy withdrawl
>Falcon remains a fully functional human being
>Ant man has a compulsion to steal like kleptomania and twitches his fingers a lot more
>Spiderman is a wildcard no idea
>>82603217
Black Widow achieves peak human sluttiness
>>82603289
Spider-Man would go full Superior. his guilt complex wouldn't let him rest until he's spending every waking moment making New York as safe as possible, no time for half measures.
>>82603196
He was part of a specialized Kill Squad. Thy likely also had very short notice. And from the sound of things the city was flying before they knew what was going on.
>>82603332
I'm talking about the very beginning before Ultron was built
>>82602999
You could also kill Batman easily with a Bullet.
That doesn't mean he is not dangerous.
>>82603667
>You could also kill Batman easily with a Bullet.
No you can't.
>>82603289
>>Falcon remains a fully functional human being
Falcon becomes Anthony Mackie.
