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>>82545816
>>tumblr
Unless you're a racist White girl, who gives a shit?
>>82545852
This was quite obviously made in /tg/, but for some reason OP thinks it's more credible now because it was stolen and then posted on tumblr?
>>82545850
>all elves are whores
That's not far from the truth. Why do you think they get raped so often? Because they actively or subconsciously seek out those who would rape them.
>>82545816
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>>82545850
Seems unclear as to whether the goal of this was to correct factual errors or state that facts don't matter when telling a fictional story. I think it would have benefited from sticking to the former subject rather than going off on a speech about feminists.
>>82545916
I don't know why these days even so much as criticising a feminist even mildly is "verboten"? Is it because they'd rather let some crazy feminist talk shit than let a bunch of smelly MRAs even so much as dominate the thread?
>>82545816
Do people really use "but it's not practical" as an argument against boobplate? Most fantasy armor is impractical. Armor that actually works looks boring, so people make it look cool for fiction.
Look at this shit. It's plate armor that somehow also has the properties of cloth. Nobody cares how retarded it is because so is everything else.
>>82545827
>agency
kek, I kinda like this guy
>>82545963
It's called a surcoat. Boob plate just looks dumb because you could achieve the same thing by making a regular breast plate. It's not as if it'll crush your breasts, since if it does then the thing just doesn't fit you.
>>82545827
I could not give any less fucks about her armor, but Diana DESERVES A GORE WHICH TOUCHES HER STERNUM GODDAMNIT!
She will suffer chafing, discomfort and a severe lack of support. Does she not deserve better? Do we, as a people, not deserve a world without the horrors of boob-rash?
>>82545816
Shittywebcomics, go back to your selfmade containment board on 8cuck
>>82545827
>Agency
People say it's easy to deal with SJWs, just ignore what they have to say and do what you want. (ie. Treat them like trolls)
But how do you do that when their tactics are like 4chan trolls, except minus the lulz? And unlike 4chan, they have the media on their side, and you know what they say about fighting against someone who has a pen...
>>82546001
>deities
>getting boob-rash
>>82545816
What does this have to do with /co/?
>>82545816
I'm cool with boob armour and bikini mail but I have a thing for practical armour
>>82545991
It's because in realistic full plate that will protect someone, there is no way to tell what sex someone is.
So there is little reason to have a woman in the visual medium.
Women bitch about boob plate because boob envy. That's it.
Tits on plate to lure eyeballs. That's it.
>>82546029
If anything could harm a deity's breast, it would be a deity's other breast.
>>82545945
That is not remotely what I said.
>>82545963
Nobody should look at Warcraft armor as any kind of standard.
>>82546092
WoW is the most extreme example, but most high fantasy armor isn't practical and is designed to look cool without any regard as to how useful it would actually be.
>>82545991
He has swords on his shoulderpads. How is that not ridiculous and impractical?
>>82546125
I didn't say it was practical. Just that it's not bendy plate, it's a surcoat worn over the plate which is why it looks like he's wearing robes.
Gothic games solved that problem the best way possible, by not including any female warriors.
No bitches = no bitching.
>>82546125
>most high fantasy armor isn't practical and is designed to look cool without any regard as to how useful it would actually be.
On that note there's no real rational reason for sorcerers wearing unpractical robes instead of regular (even light) armor, it's just an issue of min-maxing class abilities.
Yeah I know they explain it away with "armor is a hindrance to magic" but it's just a damn excuse.
>inb4 they don't need armor
I'd believe that if wizards didn't get stabbed so often.
Anyway yeah, rule of cool.
>>82545945
>I don't know why these days even so much as criticising a feminist even mildly is "verboten"?
OP is trolling material. It opens with "Mu erections" and ends with freebleeding, which is a /b/-scam.
>>82545841
This is what I don't get
>complains constantly about "hurrr durrr muh realism"
>literally everything in fiction is now muh realism. There is nothing left that is not
>>82545827
>only women get angry
Men also through a temper tantrum when men are portrayed as anything less than powerful or if their armour is inaccurate (whether practically or historically) or too attractive to women
>>82546149
Truly ahead of its time
>>82546248
>>literally everything in fiction is now muh realism. There is nothing left that is not
Do you actually believe that?
SHUT
UP
GOOBERGATE
>>82546251
When has that happened?
I'm genuinely curious.
Hell I actually want to know what kind of armor women find SOO attractive that men threw a bitchfit about it.
I mean, goddamn. Most people's favorite heroes have real weaknesses and can get taken out rather easily by something or other. Just look at the wall crawler and batman.
>>82545816
I'm so confused by this
Was the whole point of this post just to show boob armor doesn't exist? Or smugly assert that because boob armor doesn't exist it can't kill you in real life?
Is this just purposefully misinterpreting the idea that boob armor would kill you by reading it as "Boob armor is the cause of your death"? Like, you were murdered BY boob armor?
Why would anyone write this?
Boob armor is stupid
>>82546315
No, they're just taking apart the bitching over boob armor period.
There is no internally consistent reason to dismiss it outright.
By that I mean all of the logic put forth as to why boob armor wouldn't work or is stupid is all wrong.
There is no reason to NOT have boob armor outside of them simply not liking it.
As a matter of fact, I would like to see a universe where some women have enchanted boob armor and some women have no boob armor and just have regular flat plate.
>>82545916
This, basically. Any informative statement is better in a neutral tone than taking a side.
>>82546149
>implying ignoring the problem is the answer
However in this context it might be. Women are evidently incapable of even the most basic combat. Both now (see gender statistics on military training) and in history (see all of known history).
Still though. Fantasy is fantasy. Backing down is essentially rewarding the behaviour.
>>82546068
My bad. I wasn't talking about you. I'm just speaking in general.
>>82546330
>>82546344
Boob armour is stupid, but so's combining robots. Not liking them because they're impractical is objective but it doesn't make you smarter for it. Plenty of people like those things and yet are well aware that they're impractical in real life. It all comes down to aesthetics and tastes in the end.
>>82545816
>shittywebcomics is still around and still posting their shitty waifu.
>When everyone gives them shit in this thread they'll probably just post it on their circle jerk with the caption "cucks"
>>82546566
Just makes me think she wants to get stabbed in the vagina.
>>82546589
I'd stab her in the vagoo with a pork sword
>>82546576
I literally don't know what you're talking about. It sounds fun though. Please explain it to me.
I can't really think of a good excuse to relate this to the thread, I just wanted to post some top quality boob armor.
Can we not just appreciate some metal tits?
>>82546653
Post armored women getting stabbed, instead.
Just without enough guro to bother the mods.That's my fetish
>>82546533
They shouldn't exist in fantasy either.
I just think that a girl in normal armor is hotter than "blood plate"
>>82545880
>rape
What nonsense is this? It's a known phenomenon that it's not rape if it's an elf.
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>>82545850
The point brought up by serious opposition to shitty fantasy armor with obvious glaring weaknesses is mostly not the (relative) weakness to stab-attacks against the strongest part of the breast-plate. This is really only relevant with lances at which point you would likely have a fucking hussar at the other end of that lance and are in a world of trouble, anyway.
The problem is largely the pointlessness of it. Having ornamental parade armor that accentuates your features rather than turning you into a riding/walking tin can is just fine. It serves a purpose.
Making a chain bikini just defies the point of armor. If your character is a whore, you can make an argument there, but otherwise no.
No armor is cool, though.
Another point is retarded "gendered" armor, which mostly means midriff for the ladies, brick-house for gents. Both are retarded in their own unique ways.
Overburdened shoulders are obviously disabling you in a fight and leaving the stomach vulnerable is rather self-explanatory as far as flaws go.
Obviously magic armor can explain away a lot, but unless you are a fighting angel or a goddess, impractical armor will make you just stick out and lose you all respect of a fighting force.
Another thing that dirves /tg/ mad are plate-boots. Because they would be impossible to put on, let alone move around in. Not to mention the lack of padding.
One point to remember, though. Not everyone always has to wear thick armor. Armor is an adaption to the heightened probability of getting stabbed, slashed or otherwise harmed and always depends on resources and threat relative to weight of armor. Many fighting forces used little or no armor long after full plate armor was widely available, due to changes in the way wars were fought.
>>82547194
Implying cool Armour isint bare bones basic with a touch of flair like a red sashe or heraldry/orniments, rank and file motherfuckers wearing real knight gear look intimidating and functional as fuck
Also we're not even talking about plate, mail, thick leather padding, chain and fur, woven metal panels, its all cool when you look at what people actually wore instead of Whore shit, or dude PALADRONS LMAO!
>>82547194
>Overburdened shoulders are obviously disabling you in a fight
Sure, if you're a fucking pussy.
>>82546576
I thought shitty webcomics got deleted from tumblr and they never made a new blog?
>>82546273
Do you believe it isn't?
>>82545963
>Most fantasy armor is impractical. Armor that actually works looks boring, so people make it look cool for fiction.
Pleb detected
>oh look at me im dressed like a huge glowing faggot, am i not badass?
you look like shit, the armour is shit, and not effay or practical as fuck
For all the shitflinging darksouls has neeto armour that looks like it can take a hit and looks better than your whore mother on a monday night
>>82545816
This whatever it is is rambling and crazy and I don't get what this guy is even trying to say.
It seems to just be some ranting screed about feminists?
If he wanted to say, "it's just fiction, it doesn't have to be realistic" he should have just stuck with that. I think that's the point he's trying to make and that is correct, but instead it immediately wanders off into some crazy ranting political bullshit which muddies the whole um "argument."
>>82547392
They made a board on [8]chan to dick around on.
>>82547342
I am not disagreeing with your at all.
Nor do I imply anything of the sorts you rant at me angrily.
>>82546330
You're stupid.
>>82546315
Because of retarded SJWs and cucks like yourself.
>>82545816
Anything can be posted to tumblr. It's no more a homogenous entity than 4chan is.
>>82547342
"Muh realism" is not cool at all. It's faggy
>>82545816
I wish MRAs didn't sound so hysterical and overly emotional all the time because there are a lot of ways men get fucked over but thanks to this shit no one takes them seriously
>>82545850
>just like the wage gap or the patriarchy
So this is definitely a dude, right? I figured it could've been a chick before then, who saw the futility of arguing about something almost solely in fantasy, but no woman would ever agree that the wage gap and the patriarchy doesn't exist, even if she really didn't believe it did, for the sole reason that it's like selling out your entire gender
>>82547706
>no woman would ever agree that the wage gap and the patriarchy doesn't exist,
You're mistaken. Christina Hoff Summers, Honey Badgers, a few e-celebs that received e-fame through gamergate...
>>82547531
You're faggy
>hurr durr let me dress my boipussy in bright colours and huge fucking shoulders
>hurr durr im a huge fag please fuck my mouth
It doesnt have to be realistic it just has to now look retarded, practical armoour can look sexy as hell, fantasy armour is boring and samey, oh look the same 3 bikinis in diffret colours and strong huge guy Armour that looks stupid, swinging swords with no weight the size of a mini bus that may as well be paddle foam sticks.
>>82547720
>le tumblr boogeyman meme
Look faggot shit like these images is embarrassing
Say fantasy is fantasy and pointing all the other ways fantasy is unrealistic makes a good point
Dissolving into crying about persecution and oppression doesn't and now you don't even make any sense and it's not clear what you're trying to say
Sorry we didn't hugbox your gay little pictures like you wanted
>>82545840
>>82545852
are these the only other anons that fail to find any relation to a comic or cartoon
this topic is clearly /tg/ maybe even /k/. Hell, it applies to fucking /a/ and /v/ more than here
thanks a fucking lot jannies and mods
>>82545850
>PS elves are whores
This only needs stating under the assumption that the audience you are speaking to is not, already, aware of this. However, as it is a widely-accepted fact that it is NOT rape if it an elf, it does not need stating.
Thus, rendering your entire argument null and void.
Tone, it's all about tone.
>>82545850
>PS all elves are whores
well he's not wrong
>>82547806
>it's a "tumblr goes into panic mode because they can't shut down the speech of others" episode
>>82547762
>boipussy
stop talking like you're trying to pick up men in a gay bar
>>82545827
anyone got the sause on the WW pic.
>>82546251
Nah fucking bullshit.
Men complain when the portrayal of women gets warped by criticism like "oh she failed, she can't ever fail or it's sexism!".
Do you see dudes complaining that Spidey got beat down in Rami's SM or that Cap got rekt in WS?
No. But they do complain when someone shoehors something like the " i liek wat u doen gurl" in the Titania & Creel. Vs Femthor fight
>>82547934
>artist actually says where they stole pictures from
>ZOMGSAUCE
>>82547959
Didn't read tripe.
>>82546315
It's a moronic Anon who wants to stick it to SJWs but doesn't want to put any effort into their argument.
>>82547194
What's the point of dressing like a bat or having big pointy black things coming out of your mask?
What's the point of wearing yellow/pink/red/blue spandex or a raincoat + sunglasses
What's the point of walking around shirtless and with a headband?
What's the point of wearing a big yellow bat when you are all about stealth? What is the point of wearing a tiara? What's the point of wearing the douchiest popped v-neck ever?
What's the point of wearing a bright red and green outfit WITH NO PANTS?
Because it looks cool you mutt
>>82547939
Actually yeah I did see complaints about that, but only here, 4chan is the only place where everything written is somehow misandry. It's just Mirror Universe tumblr with rule 63 paranoid delusions. I miss the days when lunatics were confined to asylums.
>>82545816
Anything that claims feminists are wrong is something I'm willing to believe in just because of that.
>>82547939
>Cap got rekt in WS
Bad example.
Cap was winning every time they fought. He only got beaten up when he stopped fighting back. That's not failure.
The movie actually made Bucky look like a bitch, now that I think about it.
>>82548009
4chan isn't the "only place where everything is misandry"
It's one of the few places where you can actually complain about an abusive movement without being shut down, specially if you are a college aged male.
I realized that when they started a defamation campaign against a fellow student claiming all kinds or nasty shit about him (with zero evidence) as well as making claims about his political stances, and then asking for him to be expelled.
It's not misandry, it's just one more extremist branch of a political movement that attracts lunatics, it's no different than /pol/, the difference is /pol/ are a bunch of neckbearda who will never hold institutional power in their lives or even be taken seriously.
>>82548058
True enough. Cap never loses though, so maybe a better example would be Tony since all he's done since IM2 is put his life deeper into a sinkhole.
>>82548060
It's no different in it's nature* but it is different in their reach and influence*
Eh
if you are wearing boob plate and you fall on the ground chest first I can promise you a cracked sternum
>>82548008
None of that counts as armor, they're all superheroes. This is why I don't care if Wonder Woman decides to show off her thighs or boobs (though one should ask why if she's weak to piercing)
>>82546533
Female warriors existed, but it's stupid as fuck to have them fight 1)Men are stronger by default 2)And most important why would you allow future mothers and child-bearers to die pointlessly?
>>82548114
Remember that time when Hulk fell down and got his sternum all fucked up?
Neither do I. So if Hulk wore it, would that be a viable complaint?
Further, do you remember the time Batman tripped on his own cape fell down a flight of stairs and broke his neck, or when Robin brushed his thigh on a rusty nail and died of tetanus?
>>82545963
They use it against anything unrealistic in a fantasy setting.
>>82548142
Remember when Nightwing snapped his neck on a rock?
>>82545850
It's just an angry rant more than a convincing argument. I mean there's a good idea or two to work on in there but then they just move on to being angry at feminists instead of following up and doing anything with it.
However, I too think we need more fake erection armor. Many giant mecha manage this, why not comic book heroes.
>>82548118
Batman and Robin are just dudes though.
And consider a dude went to WW2 with a bow and arrows. A man with a sniper rifle killed hundreds of russians on his own. A lady fell from a plane and lived. A guy fought a bear and managed to kill it, with no gear. A dude lost his hand and fought as a mercenary in the middle ages until he was 80. A guy made a tank out of a bulldozer.
Reality is unrealistic, and fiction is even more so.
It's dumb. Very very dumb. But it looks cool.
>>82548139
Why wouldn't you? The world could use less of them.
We need artificial wombs, so all those worthless idiots could finally die.
Don't mind me just posting from my phone and require sauce for this. Looking for it myself. If I find it I'll post it here.
>>82548224
It's a big one
>>82548257
>any opinion I disagree with is bait
Women are dumb subhumans. They only hinder intelligent society's growth.
>>82548245
Carmessi
>>82546045
> no way to tell
> only boobs plates can tell me if it's a man or woman
You've never seen a woman in real life have you? There's more to female anatomy than just her boobs. Usually a woman is definitely by her hips.
>>82548273
Okay.So what is your tumblr so I can follow more dank posts?
>>82545816
I don't like boob plateBecause it makes me jealous of things Ill never have. You have no idea how frustrating seeing all these beautiful women is.
>>82548304
That is prejudice against twinks.
>>82548174
Yesssss.
>>82548328
Stuff your bra.
If you are a man, buy a bra and stuff it.
>>82545850
So basically it's saying, "It's unrealistic. Here's why it's unrealistic. You're right to say it's unrealistic. BUT HURR IT'S NOT REAL ANYWAY PRFFFFT LOOK AT MY ANIME REACTION IMAGE".
Nothing about these series of images are helpful or useful to anyone. It's just an excuse to pat yourself on the back. I'm not so easily swayed by such masturbatory pandering.
>>82548312
Nice try, nigger.
I don't use social media.
>>82548277
Yeah I just noticed the name after I uploaded the crop. Thanks.
Wouldn't boob cups actually INCREASE your defense, since curved surfaces more easily deflect light and/or glancing blows?
>>82548357
The purpose of the image set is to make you aware that fiction is fiction, and to stop getting butthurt by something that isn't real.
Which is the opposite of what you're doing right now.
>>82548142
if you gonna argue like that you might as well say that heroes shouldnt wear anything and just rely on plot armour.
>>82548408
The best defense is being naked for more mobility
t. Namor
>>82548420
>The purpose of the image set is to make you aware that fiction is fiction
We all know fiction is fiction. That's not an automatic out to poor design, especially ones that are actually commonly defended with "Here's my female character looking empowering I'm Aaron Diaz look at me".
>>82548461
>We all know fiction is fiction.
Untrue.
>>82548471
Yes, christians exist.
>>82548452
>muh plot armor
Look bro, people complaining about say anime, where many heroes wear basically plain clothes and rely more on superpowers than any gadgets...
People complaining about comics, were many heroes have super durability or just move too fast to care...
People complain about fantasy medieval age, where wizards can pop up portals and warriors can keep kicking ass despite the axe stuck on the head...
What is the fucking point?
You are trying to apply realism to fictional settings.
That is fine if you are dealing with a realistic fictional setting or if you are making your own, but why meddle in shit that doesn't appeal to your taste in the first place?
And why only apply realism selectively, in this case, based on political opinions?
Not everyone wants to play/read/watch about realistic settings, so you keep yours and let the other people have theirs, how about that?
It would be cool right?
Fucking ace
>>82548139
>Female warriors existed
As spectacles and usually in tertiary roles. They are worth very little on the field relative to the investment required to have them meet any sort of standard.
>>82547194
>Having ornamental parade armor that accentuates your features rather than turning you into a riding/walking tin can is just fine. It serves a purpose.
IRL armour always imitated current fashion trends, Anon.
>Another point is retarded "gendered" armor, which mostly means midriff for the ladies, brick-house for gents
IRL armour was always gendered. It followed trends in male fashion closely.
>>82547731
>Christina Hoff Summers, Honey Badgers
Sommers is a thinktank talking head and the Honey Badgers have at least one member who's stark raving mad that the gubermnimt didn't take her kids away when she got a job that would allow her to feed and clothe them. Something she only did after their father had consistently refused to pick up the slack for years. She apparently also posts a lot about how she'd like to kill people with a crossbow.
>>82548574
See
>>82548573
The world.
It would be a better place if everyone just let each other enjoy their own toys instead of being anal about shit they dislike.
>>82548608
No actually. I already made that disclaimer. In fact, I said that using realism as an excuse to back out and let people censure your entertainment is stupid.
The discussion on realism from those comments is what you're seeing. Not the implication that it should factor into whether tit armour is okay.
>>82547706
>implying very intimately that they do
>in spite of research showing that they don't
Feel free to continue to express yourself on tumblr.
>>82548597
How does the pay gap persist despite being illegal?
Sure if you take the average of everything without accounting for important difference.
Isn't it simply more likely that the statistics showing women being minorities in the majors that lead to higher salaries do in fact mean women end up in lower paying jobs, instead of them ending in the same jobs and getting lower pay?
I mean the women in the same major as I receive the same for the same job, but the girls doing history end up as teachers on minimum wage. And for some reason the history major is a majority of women
All women should just be killed and turned into food for hungry kids. That would solve all problems.
>>82545827
I personally don't care if boob armor is used I just find it dumb from a logistical standpoint, if you're upfront about it being your fetish or you can find a in universe explanation for it it's fine.
>>82548773
It doesn't exist. The current data perfectly explains why women make less.
It's due to picking shittier but easier jobs. Not taking the reigns and getting promoted. Not getting more training and education and not having as much experience as men due to, among other things, maternity and such.
This is completely just. Every reason for the 'disparity' is down to personal choices. In fact, besides maternity, they are all choices men can and do make. The only difference is fewer men share that preference while others strive for more.
Fuck the pay myth and how dare people use misinformation and hurt feelings to get a pay rise they don't deserve.
>>82548211
Don't forget the dude charging nazis with a fucking claymore.he survived
>>82545827
>a modern invention
silly fantasy armors were always a thing.
>>82548211
>A man with a sniper rifle killed hundreds of russians on his own
How's it like, falling for a dumb Finnish fairytale?
>>82545832
>extra ornamental
b-but how else i could fit my gigantic genitals in there?
>>82549457
Codpieces aren't necessarily ornamental. Maybe he just meant that example.
>>82549610
Smashing, Poppet!
Are we posting armors?
>>82545816
These arguments about costumes and armor are always dumb.
There's no one "right" style of dress. Everything depends on CONTEXT and TONE.
Is the character a magic user? Do they depend more on strength, or agility? Do they live in a hot climate? etc.
>>82548817
And all men should have their eyes poked out, tongues cut off, penises removed, hands severed and be hoisted upside down by their feet, shot and spun around so their blood can decorate the room.
>>82550114
If we did that to all women too I'd be down for it.
It'd be enough blood to finally summon the Blood God
>>82549313
saved
>>82549986
Why not?
I wish more works used eastern european/russian aesthetics when it comes to fantasy/medieval settings.
I really enjoyed Fables' stories taking place in the Rus (the gorgeous art helped of course)
Maximillian armour, sallets and maille is fine and dandy but I can see why people start thinking that realistic armour is boring, even if that's a load of horseshit.
>>82550040
This to the max
>>82548224
>>82548273
>>82548363
>MOOOM DIDN'T GET MY PS4 LIKE I ASKED WAAAAAAAAAAAH
I don't really give a shit about what this is trying to say, just post more Carmessi.
>>82545816
Actual boob armour made of plate mail would
>realism
Reality can look pants on head retarded.
Fuck Tenk and fuck SWC for getting political just to act trolley or whatever.
>>82550514
>African
Of course it's retarded. You gotta consider the source.
>>82550672
I've seen that coming.
>>82549266
>>82549266
I can imagine someone stabbing their eye out with that.
>>82548960
>Fuck the pay myth and how dare people use misinformation and hurt feelings to get a pay rise they don't deserve.
That study was absolutely terrible in both design and scope.
>>82549313
>You're just begging to have your femoral artery severed!
Well I'm sure Achilles would have appreciated the input.
>>82550781
>that
>singular
>implying you can even read statistics that aren't in infographs
Fuck off man. You want credibility explain your image in detail. I'd bet you don't even know what it is you're looking at.
>>82550831
It more sounds like you're asking someone to hold your hand and explain the chart to you.
The percentages show the percent a woman earns on average compared to a man. Insurance sale agents is at 62.5%; for every dollar a man earns, a woman earns 62.5 cents on average. And so on.
>>82548304
if you´re not one of those models with huge hips there´´s no way tyou can notice the gender of a person inside an armour
>Muh boob armor
The only reason people even argue over this is because people don't understand design choices.
Boob armor exists because men like tits. That's it. That's the only reason.
It's a design choice to make a female character more appealing sexually.
When you run around stumbling like some dumb cuck cunt to explain it with "b-but it's magic" or "w-w-whats realistic anyway" you just sound like a blubbering retard. Just own up to the fact that you like tits. It's not that hard.
>>82550892
Is that average per year, per cheque. Has it controlled for longer employment at a company, has it controlled for overtime. Is it scaled accurately per hour or was that assumed. Does it account for variance in company and economic area. Has it been transformed at any stage or is it purely descriptives of raw scores.
You don't know shit, faggot. You're just looking at some prettily coloured lines and talking shit to me.
>>82550913
>because people don't understand design choices.
No they understand. They just don't like it.
The only time I got paid more than my female colleagues was when we weren't doing the same job.And they never had to do heavy lifting. Never.
>>82548139
>Men are stronger by default
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xv0ipVVEN8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cOVj1oP3LY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiiU1-VORZA
I used to like coming to this board. I really did.
>>82548304
Ass man detected.
>this guy again
oh man you guys would hate my fantasy settings. Pretty much no one is fully armored.
>>82551178
>Egyptian-themed armor
WE
>>82546653
Non-boob armour girls can be top quality too.Yeah, I know, "found a chink in the armour", you're so clever
so what happened to the badwebcomics tumblr
>>82551022
I'm actually enjoying reading the petty bickering started by whether or not armor is anatomically correct.
>>82551178
>POC fantasy
No one will care.
Have fun enjoying the approval of tumblr cunts who won't support yer shit.
>>82551178
Just play Nyambe.
>>82547511
Glad to see you have the argumentation of 12 years old fuck
>mfw always was a MUH REALISM fag
>mfw neckbeard call me a feminazi now instead of AUTISM
>>82551233
You read a /tg/ thread about katanas someday.
>>82551233
I don't. It means dumb forces are winning.
>>82551293
>dead meme gif
>implying you were 'always' anything
>>82551199
>you're so crever
>>82551293
>tfw other women don't realize realism in fiction destroys the whimsical feeling they have
Get out.
>>82551353
Stopping being so racist, prease!
>>82551351
Nah, I used to be a hardcore IF I WANTED TO JACK OFF I'D WATCH/PLAY PORN kind of guy and bitch about metal bikinis and JRPGs n' shit.
Fortunately, I grew out of it.
>>82547706
Virgin detected
Most of the girls I associate with think that "the patriarchy" is a retarded concept. Go outside
>>82551199
das kawaii as fuck yo.
>>82550672
Most of those are throwing knives - and accuracy didn't matter much so long as you landed a hit. Infections and lack of armor.
I doubt they were brilliant - more likely just functional.
>>82551293
I know that feel.
>>82551431
How?
All Asians are creepy as fuck. They don't look human at all.
>>82550514
Do you see those warriors from Hammerfell? They've got curved swords.
Curved.
Swords.
>>82551380
hahaha
>Armor used to have ornaments ON it so its okay to make the entire point of the armor one big ornament
>Also its not real so who cares? Feminism is dumb I swear
This reeks of goobercrocodile tears
>>82550953
>Is that average per year
Over the course of 2012, that's why there's "(2012)" on top.
>>82551432
I just wanted to be racist without mods banning me for calling people niggers
>>82548484
Don't divert focus dude.
>>82551451
Oh, /co/, why you always so tsundere?
>>82551457
Why don't you conjure me up a warm bed. I'd be a lot happier and a lot warmer with a belly full of mead.
>>82551380
>whimsical feeling
Whimsy is for faggots, everything must be REAL and ACCURATE and BADASS as much possible.
That's why Souls series is the best ever and color is for faggots and queers.
>>82551192
ARE THE CRYSTAL GEMS
>>82551192
Technically they had the first armor and army in history, as well as the first recorded battle fought ever. They were Sub-Saharan Africans though.
>>82551669
>WEREN'T
kek
>>82546251
It's funny that that's what you got from that image, but let's be honest, it's mostly women, guys tend not to care about women's fiction that caters to them, see every romance movie ever.
>>82551719
No, it's also nuBetas, progressive men who want to make a difference and promote social justice by fighting racist outdated dangerous oppressive patriarchal sexist homophobic transphobic superstitions.
>>82548304
Form fititing plate armor that accentuates a woman's virtues with the notable acception of not having boob plate is a fucking fantasy invention that exists fucking nowhere accept 2D or in those stupid as shit larp conventions where retarded broads pretend that their playing around in their hand built toy armor = real world usefulness.
>>82551259
Medevial European fantasy is one of my pet peeves actually.
I try to base my fantasy on other cultures like Polynesia, Mesoamerica, SE Asia, ancient Persia, etc.
Not because I want "progressive brownie points", but because they have some cool aesthetics that are underutilized. Europe is so overdone and I wanna mix things up a bit.
>>82546248
Well the entire concept of female armor is mostly fiction, never really was a thing.
A "practical" fictitious armor vs an "unpractical" fictitious armor that will only ever exist in fiction, is frankly a pointless debate.
The only thing that matter is what serves the story or character better, or the creator's aesthetic preferences, which really trumps everything else.
>It's an Aesthetics vs Realism thread
I get the point the OP image is trying to make. It's a pretty simple point. There's so much unrealistic stuff in fictional stories, why bother drawing a line at all? Once the writer creates the rules and laws of the universe, that's it.
If you don't like a boob plate, say you think it's sexist, objectifying, or how you don't like the look of it, or that it detracts from your ability to enjoy the story because 'Ewww sexuality!'. But stop complaining about how "flawed and unrealistic" it is.
>>82551836
Just have a gigantic Fantasy Race War.
>>82551836
>cool aesthetics that are underutilized. Europe is so overdone and I wanna mix things up a bit.
>tfw this is the reason I'm so sjw about things
it's so boring reading about straight cis white dudes all the time.
Last night when I was leaving the the supermarket there was a pair of ducks that, for some reason, started following me. Both about the same size, one male, one female. I could tell which one was male because he had the bright green head, while the female was a drab uniform brown.
And that seems to be the kind of sexual dimorphism that people want in their fantasy works. Males can be peacocks, bright and flashy and memorable and instantly recognizable, while females need to be fully camouflaged peahens, just kind of boring, but there and if you see a picture you might not even know what they are at first glance.
And that's an okay stance to have, but then you shouldn't also wonder why Captain America and Iron Man get movies and toys fly off the shelves while "generic girl in a black jumpsuit #4617" gets neither.
>>82551859
ART MUST HAVE A SOCIAL CONSCIOUSNESS
ART MUST HAVE A HIGHER PRUPOSE
ART MUST SERVE THE GREATER GOOD
>>82551178
I have yet to read Warlord by Mike Grell.
Grell seems to be infamous for his beefcake and cheesecake.
>>82545816
So, are we just regurgitating /tg/s memes and arguments now because it was posted on Tumblr? Is this what we do now, instead of talking about comics and cartoons we talk about Tumblr posts that have nothing related to our board in the slightest?
Honestly, if this thread was posted on /tg/ I'm sure as hell it would be a much better discussion with actual history of armor throughout the ages and culture.
>>82550514
>be strong african warrior
>fight another strong african warrior
>it's really sunny and hot
>hands all sweaty from battle
>weapon slips from hand accidentaly slap the hand of the other warrior
>our weapons go flying
>both armies decimated
>>82551950
What about abstract art?
>>82551992
Blacks don't sweat you ignorant shitlord.
>>82551971
>>82552017
Post an example.
>>82552017
The ultimate form of elitist bourgeois masturbation.
Shoot all the art critics.
>>82551973
>impractical, but highly skilled and well paid
Thank you for posting that.
>>82550781
>Jobs where the gender gap is smallest
>Security guards, etc.
What the fuck is the "etc" because I have never seen a female security guard.
>>82552017
>rich old jews call it art, so I guess it must be art
>>82552077
Don't keep me waiting.
>>82551950
I'm a "artist" myself. I used quotes because I'm still learning how to draw.
And I don't like NTR. I don't like gore, and I don't like depressing stories. I don't like stories about racism, or slice of life shit.
But if an artist decides to draw this stuff, I will defend to the death their right to draw it. Artists learn how to draw so they can draw what they want. What nobody else will draw. And I can appreciate and respect that as someone else who knows how hard it is to git gud at drawing. And that's why I hate when fans strong arm artists and creators into changing their works.
>>82550781
The one's where the gap is the largest are in fields where hours worked, risks taken and initiative are all huge factors, no surprise there, behavior of the individual are key.
The opposite is true of the ones with little to no gap, safer, set jobs with set hours, once again no surprise there.
But let's all just pretend that it's discrimination and not the choice of the individual.
>>82545850
>>82545841
>>82545832
>>82545827
Is this supposed to be a "refutal" because it's absolutely fucking nothing at all
>>82552083
Poklonskaya a Cute! Cute!~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1h-q-q9Y-A
>>82552075
I have.
They've all weighed over 300 lbs and all three were talking to their friends on their cellphones while "working".
>>82552114
Then never post it online.
We are social animals, we share what we create and the creation must serve to enhance the good, the beautiful, the true.
We all instinctively realize this.
Don't be surprised when you are called out on your lone degeneracy and masturbatory contrarianism.
>>82545963
Nigga, working armor looks good I think. Less = More.
>>82551821
I was thinking about mentioning submissive betas, desperate for the approval of women and to show how enlightened they are but they are irrelevant, men don't care what they say nor respect them and frankly neither do women.
>>82551991
I guess they could try talking about Warlord. But honestly, most of them have never heard of Warlord by Mike Grell. To be fair, I haven't read it either.
>>82552114
>artists have rights
>MUH free speech
Yer cute, deluded but cute.
>>82550781
it says it on the fucking image dude. Just read it.
What's the second word? Sound it out. Yell it as loud as you can until you get what it means and why they had to use that word.
>>82552114
>I will defend to the death
What, yer gonna shitpost nonstop until you die like the Starcraft chinks?
>>82552270
not him but
>implying you won't do the same.
>>82552200
>>82552243
>>82552270
Someone out there likes it. Or can look past the breast armor to just enjoy the story or appreciate. Think about how many people are fans of Shadbase's art, or how many people like Korra.
Outside of /co/ that is. The majority of /co/ don't like Shad's work, or Korra.
>>82552208
>they are irrelevant
Nah, they are in the media, particulary net based new ndeia.
They are the force behind pushing the liberal agenda among new generations.
These betas become the new writers for magazines, TV, and movies, not tumblr whales.
>>82552294
Shad isn't so bad, the ones where the girls don't look like crack whores are perfectly fine.
>>82552288
I'd definitely take breaks and get bored after a few hours.
>>82552355
Bullshit you faggot I can see through your lies.
>>82552334
>not liking crack whores
>>82552312
>These betas become the new writers for magazines, TV, and movies
I'm genuinely scared.
In real life it's good for women to wear sexualized clothing because it's empowering, but for fictional women to do so is demeaning and catering only to men.
>>82551991
>we
It's one guy, probably the one the tumblr in question belongs to.
>>82546149
What counts as gothic? Castlevania doesn't?
>>82546149
Souls and FFXIV solved the problem by equally giving everyone boob windows and dresses didn't they?
>>82552493
Assuming you're not baiting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_%28video_game%29
>>82545963
>Armor that actually works looks boring
I see you've never played Dark Souls
>>82552537
Or looked at reality.
>>82552533
sorry. Stuff like that probably happens a lot for vague as fuck titles like that.
>>82552579
I meant no offense, just tried to be cautious.
>>82552564
These days it's more common to play Dark Souls than to look at real pieces of armour, but yeah that too
i ain't care about practicality but boob plate makes characters look like those fake videogame characters you see on the boxes for GPUs
fuck you. try harder. even sexualized designs should still look stylish and cool.
Fucking armour makers forcing their fetishes into everything.
>>82552063
Being fancy isn't impractical!
>>82551950
American art hasn't been art since the us government stepped in and pushed certain art styles to manipulate the narrative and consciousness of the average american towards certain ideals and ways of thinking.
The modern abomination that people hold up as the artistic is a total farce. A memetic poison that has destroyed all hope and true unfettered creation all deep true reason.
>>82547888
>it's a "not even pretending to be board related" episode
at least have good opinions like >>82552869
>>82550781
Give a list of the variables that went into this.
I'm curious as to how they came to their conclusions. Like were they not paid the same for the same level and quality of work or what.
Because these charts oft leave out the fact that a lot of women tend to not go for positions and chances at promotions and many take vacations and maternity leave.
Was that ever accounted for? The fact that women and men have different concerns and approach their jobs differently?
I mean look at the other jobs. They don't have the level of flexibility and job security as the ones above.
THIS is what women should be wearing!
>>82552974
But wearing clothes that take half and hour to put on or take off PLUS the armor sure as fuck is.
You ever shit? Because I've worn renaissance costume. It's the definition of "fussy".
>>82553282
The lack of erect codpieces around it make that picture less than satisfactory.
>>82553282
You may be sarcastic, but I don't mind that.
I love long dresses.
>>82553282
10/10 would want my waifu to wear that
>>82553325
It was merely a jest, relax.
>>82551199
That armor's got a nice slant in it.
>>82553369
I ain't mad, just saying. I actually love wearing formal clothes, but they're silly too. Truthfully if I went into battle with no regulations, I'd probably go in some ridiculous costume, because I'd want to die happy.
But costumes, and that's all formal clothes really are, are in no way efficient.
>>82553461
Yeah, I'm totally with you.
>>82553753
Seibah a shit.
Worst servant.
>>82553776
Archer came back to kill himself. Saber definitely isn't the worst. Also, have fun transferring mana to Hercules.
>>82552632
>that shield
fucking what
Fuck armour.
>>82554882
To be fair they were showmen, of course their armour will be silly.
>>82547806
it's your faul for not reporting every single post made here
>>82545850
>fantasy art
>videogames
>feminism
>anita sarkesian
>anime
mods can you explain why not /co/ stuff is allowed to sit here like this?
>>82548363
How is 4chan not social media?
>>82555390
It promotes anti-social behaviour.
Also people tend not to network over it due to the whole anonymous thing. And people who use names or trips when they're not required are colossal faggots.
>>82550514
Is this loss?
>>82545841
That armor still looks sexy though.
Just make all the characters men and women naked all the time.
Problem solved.
>>82555528
미요
메드
>/co/ - Comics and Cartoons
>>82547194
Is that supposed to be Ethelfleda?
>>82555539
but is that because it's your fetish?
>>82555644
No, but I am turned on by lithe, commanding women, so that might be it.
>>82545827
TFW those orcs are male.
>>82552632
That shield looks like a fucking Christmas cookie.
>>82550514
All those look eminently throwable. Like, you know, balanced.
>>82555897
>All those look eminently throwable.
So do babies.The point was that they look rather silly at first glance. Even at second.
>>82546330
Boob windows are stupider.
>>82556026
not as stupid as your face
>>82555644
Those boob plates are horribly tilted.
0/10, garbage art.
God bless SWC
Now if only they would continue Princess Highground.
>>82549323
its true idiot
>>82556044
>muh meme waifu
>>82545816
>>82545827
>>82545832
>>82545841
>>82545850
Make's a good point, but it could have been made in one pic.
>>82556266
it could have been made in a sentence
>ornamental armor did exist, it wouldn't cave into your chest and don't forget that it's fantasy fiction
>>82546850
>>82547809
>NOT rape if it's an elf
This is only half true.
It's not rape it's an elf.
It's always rape if it's a Drow.
>>82546056
thats a pretty compelling point
That whole argument is retarded.
Yes it's impractical and just there to look hot. And exists for no other reason than because the author's horny when designing his female characters.
If you're writing a story and want people to take you seriously or are aiming for realism you definitely shouldn't add in stuff like that. Other than that there isn't any reason why adding semi naked girls to your story would be a bad thing.
>>82546195
>freebleeding, which is a /b/-scam
I thought it was /cgl/
When is the superbug plague going to hit?
>>82550710
What's retarded about that ? A shield with a spike so you can attach a lantern to it, don't see anything wrong with that.
>>82548058
What about when Captain America threw his mighty shield? Did the Winter Soldier yield when he threw his mighty shield?
>>82546589
isn't that what all women want?
>>82552526
Is it even possible to make an attractive waifu in Dark Souls 3?
>>82551586
>Souls series
>REAL and ACCURATE and BADASS
have you ever touched a Souls game?
>>82551017
Compare that to all the example of men beating women, dude.
>>82557669
He's being a fanboy but the series has a good chunk of realistic gear. If you can ignore the anatomy altering armours and oversized weapons.
If boob armor fits the series tone and aesthetic (in other words, non-serious ones where male armor is similarly designed with appearance prioritized over practicality) then I really don't care. It's in settings where most of the guys look like they came from Berserk and someone tries to justify a chainmail bikini that pisses me off. Even then, if they just own up to the fact that it's meant to titilate the audience I really wouldn't care, it's when they try to argue that it's somehow pro-feminist that I get pissed off
It's a creator's right to put as much of whatever they want in their fictional creation. It's the right of every consumer to voice their criticisms of the thing and use their spending money accordingly
>>82556527
>don't forget that it's fantasy fiction
You do realize no matter how many times this is brought up, it's promptly ignored, right?
>>82546251
>too attractive to women
This. Guys get butthurt about male performers being attractive to women all the time. Especially since men got more of an ego.
>>82546045
I got big fucking breasts (DD) but I still think those animu girls with the big breasts are fucking retarded
>>82560322
>Guys get butthurt about male performers being attractive to women all the time.
Where?
>>82560410
I don't see how that doesn't make your argument worse
>>82545850
This is clearly preaching to the anti-feminist choir. I don't think anyone ho doesn't already agree is going to be convinced by this.
Why do people apologise for "boob-armour" just because feminists hate it? You realise they're just exploiting male-sexuality for easy cash?
>>82550913
Oh, you think it's so easy to just be honest? We live in a world where admitting that could get you LYNCHED in Social Media. Have fun with feminists and SJWs calling you a sexists rapist pig, making sure you'll ever work in this town again because you like boob armour and admitting it for the right reasons rather than try to explain yourself.
>>82560735
*never
>>82560322
That's just not true, what specifically are you referring to?
Any examples?
>>82547706
The real wage gap is the one between classes. But no one wants to talk about that.
>>82560322
>>82560453
I think that happens with things like that swimming anime, where the men are pretty boys rather than outright men. Though some of the outrage about this one seemed very tongue in cheek, like parroting of the arguments about Barbie (unrealistic body expectations and such).
>>82545816
>when one woman shows up in actual armor
>>82561137
Which is double retarded, because a lot of the arguments (especially race-based ones) are America-centric as fuck.
Fuck yo white guilt, I'm a Slav living in a Slav country. We didn't import niggers en masse to work our fields or genocide Indians, we were too busy fighting Russia or Turks.
>>82547194
>Making a chain bikini just defies the point of armor.
Has anyone ever argued that a chainmail bikini is supposed to be functional armor? Like, ever? I mean, it was pioneered by Red fucking Sonja, whose contemporary and peer would be Conan the Barbarian, not some 15th-century knight.
>>82561232
Similar here, but I find it somewhat entertaining.
>turks wage war on us for centuries
>they keep fucking our shit up and we fuck theirs up in turns
>children stolen and raised against us
>they come, conquer, get fucked
>today relations with Turks are cordial, with the occasional light banter
>niggers still chimp out over slavery
And then there are the western whites telling me I should feel guilty for being white. Hilarious.
>>82561232
>Russia or Turks
Nah, son, YOU were the slaves, slav.
Yer still white niggers in our eyes, if it makes you feel any better.
>>82561204
>actual armor
>in a fantasy setting
>>82545965
He's learned their language and seeks to use it against them, that infuriates the leg-beards.
>>82561390
>Has anyone ever argued that a chainmail bikini is supposed to be functional armor?
The thing is, these kinds of arguments, you always get "suckered" into taking such a position. Everyone agrees that chainmail bikini armor is solely for aesthetic purposes, but eventually arguments snowball into trying to justify the existence of it.
>>82561602
>>82561390
Red Sonja is so old school, I can't imagine any comics fan being triggered over it, c'mon.
She's even had a live action movie back in the 80's for fuck's sake.
>>82561736
Where did it all go wrong?
>>82561736
>I can't imagine any comics fan being triggered over it,
Sonja is a constant sore spot for the "this fantasy fiction is too unrealistic!" crowd. Whether or not they count as actual comic fans, that's up for debate.
>>82560322
>>82560453
it happens with shit like twilight. but men don't call it sexist they just call it faggy. that's pretty much the equivalent of this situation. There's just a difference in a lack of political movement to make media less faggy or for men to want to be accepted into predominantly female fandoms/niches.
>>82551826
There's real life boob-plate
>>82557438
Very yes.
Armor that changes shape and size depending on the gender of the wearer is stupid.
It should just remain the same size and shape no matter what. One size does not fit all.
Meaning armor for women would be too small for most men and armor for men too large for most women.
This is my opinion and if you don't agree thenthat's fine, too.
I never understood "practicality" as an argument against boobplate. If your setting has women in combat, practicality is already an afterthought.
>>82546018
We will laugh them into their grave. Because we can and do laugh - at them, at their ideas, and at ourselves. They take everything super cereal and that's why eventually people will get sick of them and tell the humorless cunts to fuck off.
>>82545850
"Boob armor shouldn't be a thing because it would get wearers killed" is a summary that completely misses the point of how that complaint usually goes, let alone all the other completely separate reasons feminists often object to it - and I do say often, because they don't actually automatically hate it, for the same reasons that they don't automatically object to porn.
Is this person aware that they're using an incredibly shitty strawman? I genuinely can't tell if the shitty meme humor is an attempt to disguise that or not.
>>82563255
Strawman would imply that they never said those things. Those headlines? From actual sites taking SJW sides. Got a problem with that? Blame those sites for making feminists look bad while they try to make them look good.
>>82549986
I know it's supposed to be a cool picture, but If that diving mask breaks that dude is fucking dead. Holy shit how are people this retarded
>>82563574
well he's only under a few feet of water with other people. I assume they didn't just lob him in the water so there's probably a lowering mechanism.
>>82546251
But I like playing as an old man in a dress
>>82550817
That happened quite a bit of you actually read history. Just FYI though Hoplites fought in a phalanx formation with a large round shield. So long as you kept your shield ready and the other guys did their job, you're actually quite well protected. Not every infantryman was fully armored head to toe in steel armor throughout history. Sometimes armor is adapted to the tactics employed.
>2011
>/co/, /v/, and /tg/ would makes threads raging about impractical armor pandering to neckbeards
>2016
>/co/, /v/, and /tg/ would makes threads defending impractical armor pandering to neckbeards
I shouldn't be surprised since people are willing to jump through the same hoops to defend the status quo in comic books.
>>82564497
Maybe they're different people?
>>82547980
Not on anon.
>>82546315
Boob armor wouldn't kill you and has existed
>>82560453
>>82561987
>Twilight
Most of the bitching stems from the male leads ACTING like insane fags. Most guys would freely admit to desiring a body like Jacob or Edward. Nobody with balls would want to fucking sparkle in sunlight or be the emotional equivalent of a hemophiliac.
>>82551669
They weren't black at all. Not the ones who actually got shit done.
>>82553282
That looks so fucking rad!
>>82553334
>The lack of erect codpiece on it makes that dress less then satisfactory.
Fix'd for you.
>>82565525
Sauce?
Other then what the egyptians who are squatting there and whites who do not want to make a big thing about dark skinned africans ruling an empire the openly fellate.
I'm curious.
>>82545850
>PS: all elves are whores, that's why they wear this kind of armor.
This is clearly Orc propaganda.
>>82565399
No, the average guy doesn't want to look like a geared up homosexual doing a bad job of pretending to be straight.
Not even for all of the thirsty fat and middle aged legbeard pussy he can pound.
>>82565762
>Orc propaganda
you mean dwarven
orcs are too honest to do propaganda, they just rape and move on
>>82565820
I was mainly talking about their actual physiques, but yeah, that too.
>>82565754
It's easy as looking at their sculptures and art, but there's been mountains of research on this topic. Copts are most closely related to tan-skinned, red-haired ancient Egyptians, who no longer exist.
There were Nubians living and contributing to the Empire, and even a few Pharohs, but they were very much exceptions. Egyptians had no problems with adoption and, royalty was matrilineal. The kingship was handed down to whoever married the eldest princess. It's fairly well known that numerous pharos who were not of Egyptian decent ruled Egypt simply through marriage.
>>82545816
>>82545827
>>82545832
>>82545841
>>82545850
No proof provided, bald assertions only, filled with the kind of rabid hatred that not getting any (because one is a creep) generates.
Go away.
>>82568858
Thanks for the bump.
>>82545991
The point of boob plates is strictly ornamental.
I seriously doubt arguments for boob plates involve saying how much safer it is because it's protecting your boobs, or how boobs wouldn't be able to fit in a breastplate if they didn't have big shiny boob sockets to stick your boobs into.
If people are going to critique boob plates because they're not "necessary" or "realistic" in fantasy armor, then we need to talk about excessive belts and giant pauldrons as well.
>>82547979
It's on the actual picture you mongoloid
>>82555985
Not that Anon, but I still love them.
>>82569168
we talk about those all the time, too
>>82554848
Must have been one shitty sorceress on the bottom left if she couldn't handle a single knight. Just cast lightning bolt, dumbass.
>>82546248
That picture is also an example of unrealistic armor. Just because it is peasant grey and covers the body does not mean it is realistic.
>>82551928
There were lots of POCs in Europe.
>>82565762
Control your women, Legolas
>>82552063
Not impractical.
He's not wrong, 99.9% of armor depicted isn't real. It's retarded to pitch a fit over it.
Also, 99.9% of all soldiers in history never wore armor. They wore the clothes on their back. Sometimes, if they were in a rich army, they would get a uniform. Otherwise, they did not.
The only people who bitch about fighting fucktoys and fantasy armor are con artists trying to get you to give them money. Bottom-of-the-barrel scrapers who have no real purpose but to preach to people who don't consume video games or comic books, but want to feel good about their decision to not consume those things.
>>82570013
Realistic, Tacticool, Practicool, none of it actually means realistic just that it gives off the impression its realistic to the audience ie Mostly people who don't know dick about armor
>>82554882
It is fetish fuel, look at all those women that came to look at naked bodies.
I've never seen someone actually complain about this.
I've seen jokes about it. But never an actual complaint.
>>82559142
"Fantasy" doesn't mean "full-tilt retarded".
>>82554848
>Give her a swift kick
>She can't get back up because she is physically incapable of lifting the dead-weight of that armor
This is how most armored knights in the middle ages died.
>>82570586
Actually, I'm pretty sure it does mean that.
>>82570683
Are you familiar with the term "Suspension of disbelief".
>>82570619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hlIUrd7d1Q
>>82570803
>CLANKITY CLANKITY CLANKITY CLANK.
No covert ops in that shit.
>>82570619
That's not how plate works though.
>>82570803
This is ALSO fantasy because knights typically required a team of two in order to complete most basic tasks. That's why squires were required.
A knight which was prone required a squire to help them up. They could barely lift themselves onto horses, but even that required a squire to hold their equipment and give aid where needed.
Oh, and squires also carried a big bucket of water to wash them off after they shit themselves. That's another thing fantasy doesn't cover: Knights in armor smelled like absolute shit. They can't take it off, so they just shit themselves when needed.
>>82570586
So lightly armored warriors is more ridiculous than magic, raising the dead, shooting lighting from your eyes and summoning fire breathing dragons?
>>82570933
>tfw Lancelot shat himself and he was still able to fuck Arthurs bitch.
>>82568960
I habitually bump threads that are about to swirl down the drain.
>>82571009
yes
>>82571009
Yes. Because all those things are magic, lightly armored warriors are not.
>>82570933
>A knight which was prone required a squire to help them up
The video you just replied to shows the opposite of that being possible. The squire was more to preform menial tasks for the knight such as the general up keep of the armor and weapons since that shit was time consuming. Knights in full armor could get on horses with little assistance. The whole "knights needed to be lowered onto horses by a crane" myth was based on one particular king needing it because he was incredibly out of shape and riddled with gout.
>>82570933
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTwBQniLSc
watch around 30 seconds in
>>82570933
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMuNXWFPewg
And this one too.
>>82571187
But what if it's enchanted light armors like in most vidya?
>>82570933
Why do you go on the internet and tell lies? Does it make you feel like a big man?
>>82571301
Hell yea.
>>82570933
Well memed my Hollywood.
>>82571009
Where did I say that? Lightly-or-un-armored fighting-men have been around since...men.
>>82547706
>but no woman would ever agree that the wage gap and the patriarchy doesn't exist
https://www.youtube.com/user/Shoe0nHead
>>82556759
>implying a female Drow would ever touch your filthy tiny human cock with her moist succulent labia when she could have demon or Drow dick instead
>implying a male Drow would ever stick his glorious ebony dick into your filthy hairy human asshole when he could plow the dark carnal pleasures of a female Drow and gain himself a sugar momma by impregnating her with a future Matron Mother
I GOTTA KEEP OPENING THE DOOR FOR THE SLOP DRUDGES.
I just realized.
Orochimaru turned out to be mostly pointless as a villain.
>>82571602
Wait shit I'm in the wrong thread
>>82571507
>implying a female Drow would ever touch your filthy tiny human cock
Ha ha ha! Oh, you poor retarded fool. You have no idea what sick, degrading things Drow will do to get off. For Drow, /b/, /d/, and /trash/ all rolled into one is an average Tuesday.
The question is not whether or not she'll touch your cock. She will. No, the question is whether or not she's going to let you keep it when she's done.
>>82571602
lol
>>82551480
Where do you think you are?
>>82557076
let me block with a lantern so oil and fire gets everywhere great idea 10/10
>>82571602
Orochimaru is best mom
>>82570683
>hurr fiction shouldn't follow any sort of logic whatsoever
kill yourself
>>82561204
Wonder how her ass smells.
>>82545816
I deeply regret looking up where Laily comes from. Makes the Unfunnies look like a masterpiece in comparison.
>>82561464
People have been making jokes about slavery and race for years m8
>>82551480
You're arguing with a guy posting anime reaction images on a Cantonese image board and you're saying not to deflect from the point.
>>82573259
... It is incredibly difficult to even tell what is and isn't covered in that picture.
>>82573340
That's part of the fun of looking at it for me.
>>82545816
>>82545827
>>82545832
>>82545841
>>82545850
whats the point of all this shit?
>>82553416
Too bad there is a chink in it.
>>82552077
Are you implying that's not art?
>>82574854
>boobs are nice
>fug u sjw febnazis xd
>>82562815
I disagree but at least you're civil, if given the chance i'd like to buy you a beer, or a coke.
>>82550913
You're an idiot.
Pretty much everything in fiction is done either because the artist or someone involved in the creation process liked it, or because they think consumers will like it.
Guess why DOOM is a bloody shooter where you shoot demons? It's because people at id Software liked the concept and thought a lot of people playing games would like it. Why is every other JRPG about teenagers with familiar tropes trying to save the world? Because it's a popular concept that has a lot of appeal among the playerbase.
Just because something is put in fiction because they think the audience will like it (whether it's character design or personality or the setting or genre or anything else), that doesn't mean it shouldn't be justified in some way. And yes, if most of the shit in this type of media is unrealistic (because fiction shouldn't strictly adhere to realism, and focus on realism limits creativity and enjoyment), that is relevant.
If I make an episode in a show where the main characters get into mechs and fight dinosaurs, because I fucking like mechs and dinosaurs and I know a lot of people watching the show will too, I still have to find a good reason why the fuck that happens so it makes sense.
The idea that artistic choices shouldn't be justified seems to either stem from anti-intellectualism, or in this case feminists wanting to take the intellectual high ground so when a character doesn't cater to them, they can say "LOOK IT'S ONLY LIKE THIS TO CATER TO STUPID MEN'S DICKS!!" and then morons like you will say anyone saying otherwise is a "blubbering retard".
Then the same people will be upset if you say that perhaps something was only included (or not included) to cater to them.
You're the kind of person who said anyone liking Bayonetta or the Sorceress from Dragon's Crown as anything but fap fudder was just reaching to find reasons to justify them (that is, after they whined for months about them without having played them).
>>82560410
That's because those animu girls are pretty and skinny and youre probably obese.
>>82560410
>I got big fucking breasts (DD)
>DD
>big
>>82555491
Social media is any form of digital media which is social. 4chan falls into that definition. Anonymity has nothing to do with it.
>>82545816
That pic of the lady from Clumzor?
>>82545850
>wage gap and patriarchy never existed
>never
>>82577982
Alright, found it. Definitely Clumzor.
>>82578011
probably talking about about the 21st century modern patriarchy
patriarchies have existed, which is why there's even a word for them
>>82577874
>Team Fortress 2 or any other multiplayer game is a form of digital media that is social, therefore it's social media
>telephones are social media
>literally every single site on the internet where you can do any kind of activity that is considered "social" is "social media"
The term has a way more specific definition, otherwise it would be nearly useless you blithering retard.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2647377
>1) Social media services are (currently) Web 2.0 Internet-based applications,
>2) User-generated content is the lifeblood of social media,
>3) Individuals and groups create user-specific profiles for a site or app designed and maintained by a social media service,
>4) Social media services facilitate the development of social networks online by connecting a profile with those of other individuals and/or groups.
Has anyone considered that the sort of hollow, "commercial" sexual objectification that pervades western (and eastern) media is not attractive?
Like hold up, this might legitimately shock some of you teens/shitty young adults here, hyper-sexualized women are.. not attractive.
Hold on though, even bigger shocker, the problem isn't that it's unrealistic (although that's certainly a problem for some people), it's that it's basically the most unfairly balanced against women and against anyone that isn't a straight male. It's inconsistent, generic and .. shitty.
Leave the porn to the people who make it and excel at it, don't cram it in your fucking shitty work. It's also not just an issue of it being offensive, it's that all of the time it's fucking garbage.
>>82578480
Is this a new pasta? I love it!
>>82578480
This thread makes me understand why people call this board /co/mblr. Keep on delivering.
>>82578516
>>82578569
Suck a dick /pol/, I'm not defending something shitty because it'll BTFO the evil SJWs. Get a good argument or go back to your board. Stop infecting other boards with your bullshit.
>>82578621
>not being a retarded SJW who gets triggered by sexy women means you're /pol/ "infecting other boards with your bullshit"
>she says as she infects the board with her own feminist bullshit
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>82545816
Who semen is that demon
>>82578742
>>82551408
Ok, is that really EW and what is that from?
>>82545816
>>82545827
>>82545832
>>82545841
>>82545850
I generally disagree with feminists, but this is some of the stupidest shit I have ever read in my entire life.
>>82552022
Dude, yes we DO sweat. Although our sweat doesn't immediately smell like a week-old gym laundry hamper, as caucasian and latino sweat does. Ours has to marinate in dirty clothing for like 3 days to do that. We secrete more waste via our bowels and bladder instead of our skin pores, unlike the afore-mentioned races.
>>82579253
No you're not allowed to say that.
Otherwise the feminists win.
Take that back and agree with everything I say.
The fact that this was able to trigger SJW-lite /co/ justifies it's existence tenfold in my eyes. I hope this spreads like wildfire.
>>82552017
>>82552031
>>82552083
>they don't know about early soviet avant-garde art
plebs all of you!!!
>>82551017
there's a reason why we see this as odd.
>>82579771
The only good soviet (visual) art is propaganda posters.
Speaking as a/tg/ guy im kinda glad boob armour is getting phased out if only because it was super hard to get people to take my games serious when miss chain bikini was staring at them in the art
>>82570619
Dude plate only weighed like 30-40 punds and was distributed all over the body. Just about anyone could lift that shit
>>82549323
Good morning, Boris.
>>82545850
>ps all elves are whores
amen brother
>>82573139
What's illogical about magical titty armor?
>>82552270
He's just ripping off Voltaire to sound good.
>>82552101
Do you even know what abstract art is?
Meanwhile Sephiroth runs around with his tits out and that's totes okay
>>82578480
>sexual objectification that pervades western media
You'll have to let me know where that's the case outside of advertising and the music industry maybe. If anything in modern comic books and cartoons there are barely any sexy characters ("objectification" is a buzzword). In Western video games, it's also uncommon, the only recent one I can think of is Overwatch. Even in the film industry you barely see this, like how they couldn't use Slave Leia for the last SW film, and they couldn't sell her figure
http://www.dailywire.com/news/889/disney-wants-remove-slave-leia-merchandise-thanks-james-barrett
The fact that you complain about this "pervasion" while the exact opposite trend is what pervades the entertainment industry now is hilarious
>hyper-sexualized women are.. not attractive.
How would you know? You're a woman
"Hyper-sexualized" is pretty meaningless though. Yes, some people won't like trashy, slutty characters that are just there to pander if it doesn't fit, "hypersexualized" and "oversexualized" usually come down to "any kind of sexualization" for people like you tho
>it's basically the most unfairly balanced against women and against anyone that isn't a straight male
Hint: women and men are different. They like, watch and want different things. I don't complain about why there aren't as many romance novels aimed at men. Women take more care of their appearance and sexualize themselves more in real life as well, that's just how it is.
>Leave the porn to the people who make it
The idea that anything attractive or any kind of sexuality is "porn" and that it should never be found outside of porn is something so backward that it makes me laugh that this is actually a common argument among progressives now
>not just an issue of it being offensive
You're right, because it isn't
>all of the time it's fucking garbage.
What does this even mean? That every instance of sexuality is garbage? That you see it all the time, making it garbage (unlikely)?
>>82580443
You wouldn't believe how many people in the real world actually think this way though. It's hilarious seeing engineering and science students brush it off as something anyone could do. So I tell to them to make a work of art and then have it graded by our art profs and then they'll understand it's more than just slapping a bunch of stuff together and saying it means something. These morons think art is only good if it subject matter looks realistic and only realistic.
>>82565399
Don't you get it?
Women get upset at the sight of female characters who are crafted to and who do appeal to men, and they call it sexist in their anger and say that no woman can look like those characters.
Men get upset at the sight of male characters who are crafted to and who do appeal to women, and they call it faggotry in their anger and say that no man wants to act like those characters.
It's the same exact thing, just different reasons given for the jealousy that comes of not being the thing that's desired. And both camps will see the other as having lesser reasons for being upset because they can't put themselves in the other's shoes and will spout off reasons why they're right and others are wrong.
The lack of self-awareness is just astounding.
>>82552017
It seems to be a case of the kings new clothes. No one wants to admit that its shit because then they get looked at as a pleb
>>82580924
>Men get upset at the sight of male characters who are crafted to and who do appeal to women, and they call it faggotry in their anger and say that no man wants to act like those characters.
Where?
>>82580991
Basically yeah.
>>82581034
Look at all the people who call the leads in Twilight faggots, the same leads who get a ton of female attention.
>inb4 "but they are faggots"
And you wouldn't care at all if they didn't get any attention.
>>82581088
They aren't calling them faggots because they look good, they're calling them faggots because despite being uber rich and having super powers and girls swooning all over them they act like deviant art tier OC's written while linken park blares in the backround
>>82581130
>proving my exact point
Try again.
>>82581088
I've seen more complaining about the character of Twilight characters than their looks.
>>82581156
The point that they're shitty characters? Notice how they seem to be the only primary example that you can come up with.
>>82581189
>>82581197
>Men get upset at the sight of male characters who are crafted to and who do appeal to women, and they call it faggotry in their anger and say that no man wants to act like those characters.
>It's the same exact thing, just different reasons given for the jealousy that comes of not being the thing that's desired.
Please try reading next time.
>>82566078
>they just rape and move on
Elf plz GTFO
>>82581217
I'm pretty sure saying the lead vampire is an abusive stalker isn't driven by jealousy, but have it your way.
>>82581156
>Anyone who says something i dont like must just be projecting because they dont like this character
Dude you gotta be more subtle with your bait there
>>82578480
Who are you to dictate what is and isn't sexy?
Also, saying these kinds of designs are "pandering to straight men" erases the many gay and bisexual women who also like looking at sexy women (like me).
That doesn't sound very progressive now does it?
>>82581245
Even then, he has all the charisma and screen presence of a wet blanket.
>>82581245
That's a different argument entirely from calling him a faggot. There are good reasons for disliking the Twilight leads, but when the ones given don't focus on how ethically dubious they are but instead on how "faggoty" they are, it's clearly derived from jealousy and frustration rather than actual criticism.
Similarly, there are good reasons to dislike some big-breasted and attractive female characters who are designed with male interest in mind, but if the reasons given have to do with how "no woman can look like that" then it's also jealousy at work.
That's the point. Both sexes have, on average, different needs and wants in the characters that they're interested in, and one sex sniping at the other for being shallow and stupid is just hypocrisy when they come up with just as bad reasons for liking their own shallow characters that are crafted for them.
>>82581289
Small wonder there, the actor hated the character and tried to portray him as unlikable as he could get away with.
>>82580924
>Men get upset at the sight of male characters who are crafted to and who do appeal to women,
Here's what gets me about shit like Hawkeye Initiative where they put men in sexy women's costumes; men and women have different standards of attractiveness.
You can't put a dude in a legless leotard and expect it to actually look sexy.
Men's legs aren't considered that attractive; the upper body and arms are what you should be emphasizing.
>>82581462
Says a man.
>>82581474
No, they're right. Men's shoulders, biceps, pecs: those are generally more attractive than legs, and you see that in a lot of fashion, too, the emphasis on shoulder width and chest size while cutting a sharp V shape.
>>82580924
>>82581353
When I'm reading passages of Fifty Shades of Grey to see what it's all about and laugh about it, it's not because it offends me or because it's "unequal" or "sexist" or a matter of jealousy. I just find it funny and realize it's not made for me then move on.
No one gets legitimately angry or upset at Twilight (seriously, show me a single person who is), and no one is jealous of a pale boring guy getting attention from Kristen Stewart (who is pretty average-looking, dull and has no personality in the movie). Yes, he does look and act like a faggot, that's not a complaint or a matter of jealousy, just a fact. Just like I'd say a masculine-looking woman with short hair looks like a lesbo. And walking around with your shirt off all day is pretty gay. None of it is a matter of jealousy, or equality, or sexism, or trying to take a moral high ground to justify why you don't like something.
Seriously, you will find hundreds of articles and blogs about why the last Avengers movie is sexist and unequal for this and that reason, but you won't find a single similar complaint for an otherwise pretty mediocre, hugely popular movie like Twilight. That's because men don't care. You're trying to find equivalences where there are none, and your attempts at amrchair psychology fail every time. Guys would be more "jealous" of someone like James Bond or Batman or Conan the Barbarian any other dozens of other male characters, but no one will call them faggots or shitty characters or claim they're sexist against men (lol). Go home tumblr.
I think the fight more people should be fighting is not against boobplate, but against big pauldrons - the real scourge of armor design in fantasy. Especially when said wearer of giant pauldrons also opts out of wearing a helmet.
>>82581517
>but you won't find a single similar complaint for an otherwise pretty mediocre, hugely popular movie like Twilight
Ironically, any such articles would most likely be written by women.
>>82581517
Well I'm mad that something worse than bottom of the barrel Harlequin trash romance novels got so popular.
>>82581474
>Says a man.
Suprise, anon. Or do I need to send a timestamp of my used pads to prove it?
Are people that strive for realism genuinely autistic? Their mind starts producing negative thoughts when they see something that doesn't match with reality.
>>82581365
Except he was created as a power fantasy stupid. That is completely different than a character made solely to attract men.
>>82581873
Now to be fair that helmet really isn't doing a lot for him.
>>82581961
No it isn't. That's part of the fantasy.
>>82581977
The helmet should be a pauldron.
>>82581891
>In summary my opinion is right and yours is wrong.
Jesus anon, that's an awful lot of projecting you're doing there...
>>82581961
>power fantasy
Please stop with the memes.
>>82545850
>Wage gap never existed
C'mon
>>82581891
>Those girls are fucking ugly from head to toe. No ass, no thighs, flat and skinny, the models are awful,
This is bait. Obvious bait.
So obvious that I don't even have to post the fish meme.
>>82570619
Most knights died from internal injuries and concussions. Fighting styles were all about hiting your opponent hard in the armor.
>>82582017
Do you know what projecting means? Does anybody on this site actually know what the buzzwords they use mean?
>>82582093
Not attracted to butterface white girls / white girl ass, sorry. Even less so when I'm told I have to be attracted to them because "it pisses off feminists" or other fucking dumb bullshit.
Only a teenager would be aroused by Widowmaker/Tracer, whatever. I still can't believe /v/ has such unbelievably low standards, so much so that Overwatch is a "waifu game". Who the fuck actually becomes obsessed with such shitty, ugly, generic, boring, unimpressive characters?
>>82545832
I'd like to counter this with "no you're wrong" and I'll cite exactly as many sources.
>>82582241
>Not attracted to white girls
U WOT M8?
>>82582298
Notice the "butterface" part. Is it a namefag thing to not be able to read?
>>82546575
Robots are rad though. Boob armour is just stupid fan service. Arguing about practicality of it is stupid, because it's not supposed to be practical, it's supposed to be hot. Comparing boob armour to sculptured male armour is also stupid, because sculptured pecs were about demonstrating strength, not being 'sexy' or something. I don't have anything against fan service, but I like aspects of the works I see to make sense in the context of those works. Having characters be hot for the sake of hot rarely makes sense in the gritty fantasy settings most games are going for.
>>82580991
But that piece of art isn't using the grotesque. There's also nothing wrong with using the grotesque as long as it's being used for a reason other than "it's ugly for the sake of it being ugly." There were lots of artists during the Victorian Era in England making art and writings involving the grotesque as a reaction to the upper class forcing the image of "beauty" into everything and acting as if they were pure beings themselves because they dressed all proper and had manners when underneath it all they were bunch of drug using hedonists.
>>82582452
I just don't understand your rage. Some people like certain things and some people don't. And that's OK.
>>82582629
What rage? I just don't stand bullshit. Would you rather I have the passive-aggressive immensely smug, arrogant tone of the OP?
>>82558050
Is there any JRPG besides Dark Souls that has realistic armor?
>>82582629
>Some people like certain things and some people don't. And that's OK.
No it's not. The more and more shitness is accepted the more quality and creativity is drag through the mud.
>>82582689
I'm not trolling. Why do people think saying anything that isn't "accepted" by /pol/ and /v/ is trolling?
How am I trolling? What the fuck is wrong with 4chan?
>>82582741
Actually, I'm being unfair here, it's not just 4chan, why does the entire internet think saying anything negative, ever, is trolling?
>>82582670
I feel it would be easier to make your case that way.
>>82582697
I agree with this. Media caters to our sexual desires and we eat that suit up.
>>82582741
You're got to be more subtle, man. You can't just shit out a big rant about how awful something is or everyone will know what you're doing right away. I mean, sure, you'll draw out the low-hanging fruit, but there's no dignity in that. It's sloppy and disgraceful.
You need to make it seem like you actually have cogent points, that way you pull in the good targets and start a true shitstorm.
>>82553753
>monoboob armor
Seriously, wtf?
>>82581891
>>82582241
>Those girls are fucking ugly from head to toe. No ass, no thighs, flat and skinny, the models are awful,
>Inevitably you are going to want to look at something made by and for gay/bisexual women, though.
>Not attracted to butterface white girls / white girl ass, sorry.
>Only a teenager would be aroused by Widowmaker/Tracer, whatever.
>mfw
>is willing to fall hook line and sinker for
I almost fell for your bait.
>>82582778
With shitty hot takes and "take thats"? Those aren't arguments. Why the OP's comic thinks they are, who knows?
>>82582853
>>82582956
If my points are so terrible, how come you aren't challenging them? Could it be that saying something is "bait" (or "trolling", the oldspeak for "bait") is a complete non-argument and doesn't mean anything?
(How much of a caricature of a human being do you have to be to take trolling on the internet seriously enough to write, like, "advice' on it, by the way?)
Is not liking Overwatch seriously that fucking inconceivable that someone would only say they do to piss people off? Are you fucking serious, /co/?
>>82582954
Makes more sense than normal boob armor. It's just a breastplate that's a little rounder.
it's a little concerning how it deflects blows directly into your squishy belly bits and shoulders, but whatever.
>>82583007
>If my points are so terrible, how come you aren't challenging them?
Because you're baiting and not having a genuine conversation, making it a complete waste of time.
>>82583251
How am I baiting? Actually how? Detail it.
>>82583280
You're role-playing as a SRS/tumblr feminist, but subtle things like the logically fallacious arguments, quotes like this: >>82583251 saying things like Widowmaker has no ass and that you don't like "white girl ass" and only teenagers would be aroused by it and going on huge rants for the most autistic things.
It's all points that feminists actually use (like how because obscure Japanese cartoon porn exists, sex shouldn't be in anything else), but I'm not falling for it, you gave yourself away.
overwatch girls are hella ugly though he's right about something
aside from the angel medic
>>82583428
.. What? Is this seriously the state of 4chan right now? I'm the one getting called out for being autistic but this is posted?
>>82583578
>Is this seriously the state of 4chan right now?
Stop bitching about others and make your points. Don't blame the state if you can't deliver yourself.
>>82581891
>>82583578
You are really bad at this, man. It's embarrassing.
>>82552077
that would make a pretty good camo pattern desu
>>82583694
What?
>>82583796
Actual SRS image, by the way :^)
>>82583800
Embarrassing to who? I never understood this. Isn't it more embarrassing to post things like these >>82583428?
The only thing I think is strange is why my post got deleted. Thanks, janitors.
Other than that, I'm actually at a loss for words. My head hurts.
If these are "points that feminists actually use" (as in, not trolling, sincerely saying whatever you think I'm/they're saying), then what makes my posts insincere? If my posts are indistinguishable from people who aren't trolling, then how do you tell? Kooky question here: couldn't it be that I'm just being honest?
I mean, I even said:
>You know I'm not a a stereotype, right? ? I'm just explaining my POV. I'm not trying to win progressive points.
Doesn't that completely dismantle not only your argument, but the entire chain of posts I have been torturing myself by reading this entire time?
I can't fucking believe this — how do you function as a human being?
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