When did you first realize Captain America wasn't some stupid propaganda schlock character
>>82455942
After they brought him back from a retconned death that took place during his time as a commie killer
>>82455942
I never thought that because I read comics
>>82455942
When I read Civil War in middle school
>>82456051
Pretty much this.
>>82455942
Reminder that Steve Rogers as a character would hold a lot more significance if he were Black or Native American.
>>82456134
Captain America has been both of those things
>>82455942
When I read Brubaker's Cap
>>82456134
Why?
>>82456134
Alright?
>>82456134
You'd have to find a way to work in that the reason Steve was picked for the Super Soldier Serum was because of his heart and yadda yadda. If you made him a black guy the story necessarily has to take a turn to "WWII era racist US government experimenting on black soldiers"
>>82455942
But he is.
He is the embodiement of what Americans thinks they are. Standing for justice, truth and the american way :^)
>>82455942
>>82456244
>If you made him a black guy the story necessarily has to take a turn to "WWII era racist US government experimenting on black soldiers"
You act as if black people didn't fight in WWII, and he could be mixed.
>>82456286
>B
stopped reading there
>>82456426
Are you implying he isn't an amalgamation of all the meme qualities americans think their country is based on?
>>82456417
I don't act like that at all. I'm simply saying you can't make a clean race swap with the whole Erskine story for WWII era USA because they're not gonna waste some super valuable serum on a negro. You have to make it more nefarious because that's what would've happened.
>>82456291
He somehow doesn't look as grizzled as his name made me expect.
>>82455942
When I was born in the greatest country on Earth.
>>82456505
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Isaiah_Bradley_(Earth-616)
I never wasted time having silly preconceptions about characters I've never read, and I just read the books instead of shitposting about them.
>>82456505
You can't really do any clean race swaps and I'm glad you acknowledge that. Peter Parker wouldn't change that much, he might feel some disdain for police, but Captain Stacey would change that.
And Marvel did do that when they did Captain America: Truth (Red, White, & Black)which I'm about to read right now. I've had it on my bedside for months.
>>82456244
>>82456417
There's literally a faulty recreation of Captain America that came about by experimenting on black men with super soldier serum. He escapes and sets off on a mission to end similar experiments in nazi germany, but gets thrown in prison when he returns to america.
brubaker run when he mostly had fun throwing cap againts crazy vilains rather than muh propaganda
>>82455942
When I read a Captain America book.
>>82456556
>Cap most representative line was written by miller of all people
wew
>>82456806
im mad that the run ended so fucking quickly
What is recommended cap reading? Last time I tried to get in(about 3 years ago), dude was on another planet, with the daughter of a space king. For some reason I remember TV heads or something as well.
>>82456718
I know, I'm about to read it.
>>82455942
his motivation in Civil war the movie was weak IMO
>>82456194
a native too?
>>82457137
He's always been a native American. Dude was born in Brooklyn.
hey /co/, what do you think abou the heroic age captain america comics , when bucky was the captain america
i liked them, but maybe that was just because they were some of the first comics i bought when i started reading and because the robot arm was cool
>>82455942
When I saw his TV movie.
>>82456134
Yeah because the Bradley family has so much significance.
>>82457194
its great but didnt reach its potential like dickbat did.
>>82457163
>. Dude was born in Brooklyn.
Prime reason why PC usage of "native america" is inferior to the term Indians have been using since they got recognition from the government.
>>82457429
It's dumb. I'm literally a native to America. I was born here. My parents are natives to America. They were born here, and so on. It's a stupid argument where anyone on my side of the fence is automatically labeled racist, despite me basically saying we're all Americans.
>>82457194
They were good, but I dunno about anyone other than Steve being Cap. Steve Rogers and Captain America are tied up together so closely every time he passes on the mantle it feels like it's just a placeholder. It's like trying to make another character Superman.
>>82456501
This, he is propaganda, but murrikans fail to see it.
US Agent is way better
