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Hard lives edition.
Discuss spoilers, rips,Wanda best girletc.
I liked this movie
I was surprised at the ending when Tony and Bucky made up after all the shit everyone went through. Maybe he'll become co-Caps with Steve afterwards.
>>82366638
Now I'm wondering, based on the concept art with Sharon instead of Wanda, if Sharon was supposed to be on Team Cap originally.
In some ways the airport fight would make more logical sense that way. That way Cap's team would be the clear underdog, fighting above its level and holding its own until Vision shows up and tries to overpower everyone.
This way Cap's team has someone super-powerful who's holding back and they really don't seem like underdogs.
I'm glad Wanda's in the movie, I just am wondering if they were originally not going to use her as much.
Is this some kind of hidde, subliminal message?
What did the Russos mean by this?
>>82366638
>yfw Joe Russo reprises his role from TWS as the doctor with the Mario moustache dead in the bathtub looking like a retard
>>82366706
I think what happened is that Sharon was more important in the original Cap 3, and when they went for Civil War, they tried keeping some of her importance, but they ended up with Wanda instead to level up the teams.
Any good rips out?
>>82366748
No, just a spanish one.
>>82366731
He cameod in WS too? I guess I didn't know what he looked like back then, I recognised him straight away in this.
Does Bucky fuck Steve in the ass?
>>82366704
I'm hoping there will be a reconciliation between them in the future. Maybe when Steve dies in IW.
>>82366762
why do you torture me with this pic anon?
>>82366796
I know, it's very depressing what they are doing to the poor girl.
>>82366709
His forehead grows with every new film. Soon it will consume Thanos.
>>82366764
Yeah, he's the doctor tending to Natasha when Bucky shoots her.
They said in the directors commentary that he had a fake moustache in some takes, but when they did the reshoots they couldn't get a similar one or couldn't get it to stick, so they ended up CGI'ing the moustache out from what they'd shot already.
When he shows up with the moustache I lost my shit.
>yfw hohohoh
>>82366706
I think they were just trying to make Sharon look more hype and relevant than she was because she has like 3 fans and people would have already asked "who's that???" at the promo art instead of during the movie.
>>82366821
that's hilarious
>>82366814
Sauce?
>>82366821
Does Brubaker have a cameo in this one too?
>>82366873
Why do you want to see her suffer anon?
Are you some kind of sadist?
>>82366831
>Cap
>Bucky
>T'Challa
>Scott
>Zemoe
Too many great husbandos in this film, I can't have them all.
>>82366731
Yes! I knew it was him, I just wasn't sure
too bad I was surrounded by normies and nobody else noticed
>>82366877
I don't think so. I didn't notice any cameos besides Joe Russo and Jim Rash.
>>82366877
Doubt it. He didn't write Civil War or anything.
>>82366943
Kek, when the Dora Milaje tried to BTFO Natasha.
>>82366893
S A U C E
I will track it and make justice with my own bear hands, I swear.
Protect her smile.
>my father made it
>>82366638
So, the shitshow that is BvS gets a sticky and the awesome as fuck Civil War doesn't?
Bias confirmed.
>>82366996
It's a real shame they cut those hardcore incest sex scenes directed by Raimi.
Did Black Widow get T'CHALLA'D?
>>82367022
probably gets a stick when releases on US
>>82367034
more than she got HULKED.
>>82367022
It may get one when it opens up in America.
BvS came out in the entire world at the same time.
>>82366934
Yes he did? He wrote the Cap books during Civil War and Bucky's run as Cap after Steve got shot.
>>82367023
>the third post credits for civil war is Falcon, Rodey and T'Challa planning the race war when Gassing Garrison busts it while shouting racial slurs
>>82366992
We failed anon, we failed so much.
>>82366831
As an ANTS fansince the movie(i barely heard about him before)i fucking loved this whole part.
>Who are you again?
Poor Scott.
>>82366996
Isn't there a scene where she's taking the D from Thanos? You know, before he finds out she's his daugher.
>>82367092
This film made me want to wrap my mouth around hisgiANTdick
>>82367080
>''Are you sure he will be safe in this fucking cotton-picker filled shithole?''
No shit the Russos got into this.
>americucks don't get in for another week
must suck having to dodge spoilers for so long
>>82367095
I'm sure thanos fucks all his daughters, I mean they're all adopted so it's cool
>>82366991
AJ Applegate, I think.
>>82367059
>>82367022
>>82367047
It was also generating a lot more shitposting.
>>82367082
>you'll never be a guard who works in The Raft who's job it is to force feed a catatonic Wanda and you mix some of your cum into the slop you force down her throat
Do you guys think we'll see Tony's tech evolve to the heights of Superior Iron Man? His suits seem to stop advancing past what, IM3?
DAILY REMINDER THAT YOU FAILED TO PROTECT THIS SMILE
SHAME ON YOU
>>82367082
>implying we did
>>82367215
If that motherfucker uses Pym's suit to get into nanomachines, I'll fucking find a way to punch him in the dick.
>>82367204
You again?
We already talked about this.
She would NEVER forget it, and if you didn't end up getting guilt-ridden nightmares remembering her dead eyes, she would mind-rape you to have them anyway.
>>82367238
>implying you did
Look at that lack of smile duringCaptain Britain'sfuneral.
>Had everything yet nothing
>Gain everything through character progress
>Savior of the earth, everyone's hero
>Create Ultron
>Despised by the public again
>Girlfriend leaves
>Best friend is cribbled
>Teammate and friend ditches you for the guy that killed your parents.
>Back to having nothing
>JUSTFUCKMYSHITUP
>>82367214
As a Wandafag I was pleased to see someone else finally portrayed as a bigger near-omnipotent fuck-up.
>>82367214
I found it suspicious how horny Wanda got after he said that and how she inmediatly pulled him into a kiss.
>>82367283
Speaking of funerals.
>Steve's best moment in Civil War comic gets pushed as a random phrase Peggy said to Carol
This was the only thing that made me angry at the movie, otherwise it was fucking great.
>>82367217
Don't worry, T'Challa promised him he'd find a way to make things right againwith his Big. Wakandan. Cock!
>>82367082
Fuck I am actually scared to see the movie because of this. I am not sure I can withstand the painful feels. Its like a knife through my heart.
>>82367360
I felt that it was better as something said to him rather than homo saying it.
>>82367403
Don't be scared anon.When people are dead on the inside they do little more than blink their eyes.
>>82367329
It was nice, but I wonder what the implications of him fucking up are.
>>82367360
Why? On its own it's a nice pithy speech but in the context of the comic it just made Steve come off as a stubborn asshole in the wrong kind of way.
>>82367287
Halfway through the final fight I actually felt pretty bad for him.
>chasing down a wanted killer
>turns out he brutally murdered your parents
>superhero bestie absolutely beats the shit out of you to protect this man
>>82367361
His Wak Two-Handa
Overall, this movie had less than no impact on me because fuck you Spoilers and fuck me for looking at them.
I liked it a lot, the Airport Battle was hype as all fuck and pic related gave me a hyperboner from the fact that he's so perfect. I need more.
BP was based as all living hell, royal as fuck and a badass all around.
I genuinely felt bad for Tony, he's had a hard life. And I won like $500 from betting that Cap would win with my retarded friends.
All the secondary characters were great too, no one felt crammed in and we got good characterizations for them all.
ANTS.
That's it, just ANTS. It's self explanatory.
Witch and Vision were legit, it seems the Russo really wanna make them a thing.
The parallel references to the comic were so well implemented.
Zemo wasn't as I expected, but he was pretty fucking good for what he was supposed to represent.
Story felt flimsy at times, but it was overall solid. Same for the fighting choreography.
CGI was fucking ugly most of the time, like, jesus. Tony was suffering from the GL floating-head syndrome pretty badly.
War Machine got what he deserved in terms of character, he was very well represented and executed.
Anything else...?
Well, I'm super hyped for Black Panther and Spider-Man Homecoming.
All in all, 8.5/10. I'm gonna see it until I'm poor.
>>82367431
>>82367082
When do you think the BluRay will come out to get high definition pics of the movie?
>>82367461
Tony was just all out broken by the end of the movie.
>inserting two characters to promote their upcoming movies
I'm not even mad they ended up being one of the best parts of the movie
>>82367497
>And I won like $500 from betting that Cap would win with my retarded friends
why would cap lose in his own movie? retarded indeed
>>82367552
I've got to admit, even though it's annoying that movies are basically promos for other movies, the Russos did a good job of setting the table:
- Introduce the MCU version of Spider-Man
- Introduce Black Panther and get people hyped for his movie
- Make Ant-Man more popular so his sequel will do better
Pretty ruthlessly efficient.
>>82367431
TBQH Being possessed by Chthon would be preferable to this shit.
> yfw Chthon is actually a pretty good guy compared to humans.
>>82367497
I'm hyped as fuck for Homecoming. If they can make Spidey feel even remotely like in that measly 20 minutes he was on screen, I'll come away happy.
>>82367497
>CGI was fucking ugly most of the time, like, jesus. Tony was suffering from the GL floating-head syndrome pretty badly.
Floating head was bad, yeah. That's something I've noticed with a lot of MCU films: the CGI is never straight up terrible, but considering they have the blockbuster market by the balls you'd really expect it to be better. The only time Ive been impressed by it was the Hulk in the first Avengers.
Both IM3 and Cap2 had really poor looking water, and despite the fact that his drone's looked fine, Ultron himself looked like a PS2 cutscene come to life.
>>82367603
It doesn't really matter if the characters are enjoyable and someone you would like to see more of.
>>82367603
I haven't watched ANTS but after watching CW I want to now
>>82367603
It ruins the movies. What makes superhero comics suck is making the movies suck as well.
>>82367361
Though the many tentacles of HYDRA threaten to keep him and Bucky apart, true love will always prevail.
>>82366638
Fixed it to look a little more movie poster-ish.
>>82367497
>>82367573
Did Tony lose because he was holding back?
Was it more because of he was trying to kill WS and not Cap, and that it was a two-on-one in which uni-beaming the two is out of the question?
>>82367656
>the CGI is never straight up terrible, but considering they have the blockbuster market by the balls you'd really expect it to be better
The budget committee usually has them by the balls.
>>82367732
I don't see the difference
Just came back from watching it
I really liked that it feels like a civil war, nobody really wins and all it does is divide. That aside fuck Cap all that shit and Bucky goes to sleep that felt like a huge middle finger after the whole fuckfest that he causes.
Also I guess it's because it's his movie but I really didn't like how much everyone shits on Tony, poor fucker ends up with half of his team and cap keeps his plus BP
Wasn't somebody supposed to die?
>>82367763
He made it taller.
>>82367497
One thing I forgot to mention.
Crossbones.
Like, what in the FUCK goes through the executives' heads that they have a raging hard on for killing potential future villains?
I'm legit fucking mad, and I actually was amazed at how BPBlack Panther saved Zemo from taking his life.
Marvel Studios can do wonders for heroes, but villains? What the fucking fuck.
>>82367744
Tony tried so hard to keep Cap on his side, but he kept failing at every turn. It took crippling one of his best friends and seeing who was really responsible for the death of his parents to finally break apart.
I like MCU Tony way better than Comic Tony. Comic Tony feels like Double Hitler with a minor god complex.
>>82367783
Your expectations of someone dying
>>82367783
Wanda did.
>>82367805
All they need to do is put in a line about him being thrown in super duper mega jail, that way they remove him the film but keep the option of using him again. Wanda could just as easily have thrown the/a bomb, and not him + the bomb.
>>82367744
Have you seen the movie? He gets some solid hits in, takes out Bucky and lays in to Cap. They show things from his perspective for a bit and it's pretty overwhelming, and you can see how it'd be possible for him to be overpowered without it feeling like he's jobbing.
Like this anon said:
>>82367768
There really isn't a clear 'winner'. Cap beats Tony, sure, but everyone gets hurt pretty bad and no one really leaves happy. Doesn't feel like a victory, and does a much better job of selling the 'Avengers are split' style ending than AoU did.
>that first post credit scene
So Bucky was basically Nia Teppelin all this time? He's probably not even going to wake up until after Cap dies in Infinity War or something. Not to mention he wanted to die because of all his guilt, and knowing Cap sent the world to hell for his sake isn't going to help matters either. Cap fucked up big time.
>>82367805
Indeed keep killing antagonists and they will have to use C-lists on the small movies
>>82367805
>tfw we will never get the Masters of Evil because there aren't any arch-enemies for Zemo to recruit
>>82367603
Normally I'd be annoyed by the lack of finality and containment of this film, especially since it's supposed to be the end of Cap's trilogy. For all its problems Iron Man 3 did wrap up Tony Stark's character arc. But this movie felt a lot like the Empire Strikes Back so I can sort of forgive that, just this once.
>>82367941
Fuck cap this is what happens when you pick save one fuck the others route
>>82367883
>Wanda will never cheerfully smile and laugh like in pic related
What went so very wrong.
>>82367148
She slept with Thanos?
INFINITY WAR BEGINS!!
>>82367926
No I haven't, I'm in the US, but I'm not anal about spoilers. But I was just wondering you know? Since my idea is that IM should come out on top more than not, since he's got flight, uni-beam, rockects, etc, but since he's not really aiming to kill, him losing is plausible.
>>82368003
I feel a little bad for Chris Evans that he didn't get a "real" third Captain America film after doing so well in the first two.
Yes, this is more his movie than Batman vs. Superman was Superman's movie, of course, but it still feels like a bigger star being airlifted in to pump up the box office, and a movie that is half Cap 3 and half Avengers 3.
>>82368015
Everything.
Only person/thing who might make her smile isChthonby helping her smash Thanos's face in.
>>82368015
>Protect
>That
>Smile
>>82368087
If it hadn't been for the two of them working together against him, Iron Man would have won.
>>82368130
Accept it anon, we failed.
>>82367883
are we sure bendis had no input?
>>82367082
She gets saved at he end so there's chance for healing
>>82368147
I won't stop.. I'll never stop!
>>82367059
Wait it hasn't come out in the States?
>>82368219
Nope, May 5th for them.
>>82368229
Hahaha losers.
>>82368186
You never began. Wanda's smile has been notoriously unprotected during the events of the MCU.
>>82368155
If Bendis had input she would have either been killed off or she would have gone mad and destroyed everyone.
Thank God for tokenism. They don't dare make one of their few powerful women expendable. Yet.
>>82366638
I like how the incident which sparked the protocol was similar to the comic book civil war but just smaller in scale.
>Villain blows himself up as one last "Fuck You" to the heroes.
The movie further shows it's going to differentiate itself from the comic books by having it be Crossbones who blows himself up (as he's the one who kills Captain America post civil war) along with the explosion killing a lot less people showing the "War" isn't going to be anywhere near as big as the one in the comic book with the Avengers solely being the "cause" of it.
Also I wonder if Zemo's comment about Captain America's eyes was a sly nod to his original Nazi comic book heritage.
>>82368155
If Bendis had any input the movie would have ended with her going full retard for no reason in the airport fight and the Avengers having to kill her.
>>82368010
>>82367941
Cap picked the Heaven's Feel route when everything made it obvious he was better off having a Mind of Steel and putting Bucky out of his misery.
This movie makes me sad that we'll never see a Russo directed Ultron film.
Just imagine how non-shit it could've been.
>>82368003
Cap gave up his shield and the last mission/shot has him in his civvies, he's basically retired his costumed identity
I read an article today that hinted at Spider-Man's first costume being sloppy and something a kid could throw together before he gets the new suit we've seen in the trailers from Stark. Any truth to that and if so, what is his first suit?
>>82368333
Has he?
>>82368334
I read an article that said you're a faggot who joins discussions of movies you haven't seen.
>>82368334
It's true, he doesn't wear it, but you can see a glimpse of it, and it's just some regular blue and red tweaked clothes.
>>82368359
We'll just have to wait and see
>>82368333
Wasn't voluntary though, it's not like he chose to retire and it's that ambiguity that leaves his arc feeling resolved, unless they're saving it up for Infinity War. I really want to know what they have in store for Bucky though. They basically gave him the "Han Solo in carbonite" treatment but Stan has a full nine movies on his contract so it's unlikely his story is over.
>>82368186
That's Olsen, she doesn't count anon.
Wanda is a walking dead woman.
>>82368137
>If it hadn't been for the two of them working together against him, Iron Man would have won.
Ironman was the only one trying to kill, neither of the other two were going all out. That's the thing, there is a difference between defensive combat and murderous intent.
>>82368334
Here's a super HD pic from the cam rip. Stark makes fun of his goggle eyes, which works into him building the lens eyes for the final suit.
>>82368327
Don't make me think about it. It makes me depressed.
I dunno about you guys, but i think Steve was justified in wanting to defend his best bro from everyone else, since all he did wasn't really his fault, he was mind-controlled and could do literally nothing against it; and to top it off, he had to live with all those "jobs" on his memory.
>>82368455
Wow, proto-Spiderman was a super saiyan?
>>82368421
>saving it up for Infinity War
would be my guess. lifts Mjolnir > dies > Buckycap. I wouldn't complain.
>>82368327
This movie made a lot of the flaws of AoU far more apparent.
>>82368471
>I dunno about you guys, but i think Steve was justified
Of course Team Cap is proven objectively right in his own movie
>>82368421
He's done 3 so far. 2 Infinity Wars movies, maybe a cameo in Black Panther bumps it up to 6.
>>82368327
>mfw Avengers 2 was originally going to have Thanos
>it would have been Whedon directing it
>>82368516
But both teams were proven right in the movie, though in their own way.
>>82368471
Steve was right in protecting his friend, who was completely innocent and a victim, but he should have told Tony about the HYDRA files and his parents' assassination in the 2 year gap between WS and CW.
It was also understandable why Tony wanted to kill Bucky in that moment.
>>82368487
Seriously, even Crossbones felt more threatening than Ultron
>>82368487
Yeah I'm one of the people who enjoyed it when it came out and still think it's OK but it felt like a lot of this movie was spent cleaning up after that one, and I'm not talking about the Sokovia stuff, that was probably all pre-planned.
>>82368586
I know we like to bash on AoU, butcome on, that's really reaching.
>>82367403
The two scenes last like 7 seconds combined
>>82367525
Probably mid-late August
>>82368471
>he had to live with all those "jobs" on his memory
I remember. All of them.
>>82368575
I'm surprised Tony didn't figure it out by himself with the fact that all of this information had become accessible, the fact that the Starks were public figures, and that Tony and the others had been dealing with HYDRA for a while now.
>>82368601
AoU felt less tied into the other movies. CW references events in the Cap movies, Avengers, Iron Man 3 and even to the Ant Man movie with Pym's dislike of Starks.
AoU just had characters from the movies without feeling it had any connection to other events.
I was really surprised with how "violent" Bucky killing Tark parents was for a movie for kids
>>82368620
Think about how easily Cap tore apart the Ultron Drones versus him getting tossed around by Crossbones. Don't get me wrong, the stakes were definitely higher in AoU with the whole city drop thing, but every fight in that film was extremely one sided.
>>82368651
He probably killed babies too. I wonder if he also remembers all the abuse his handlers probably subjected him to. Pierce slapping him around like he was a broken robot seems to have been just the tip of the ice berg.
>>82368670
Ultron should have had more set-up in Iron Man 3
>>82368670
But Sokovia was mentioned during Ross's speech.
Also, i still think it's kinda retarded that Ross blames the heroes for all dem ded people, when Wanda's literally the only one that was their fault.
Also, Steve telling Ross to stop just when they reach the last example was pretty silly.
>>82368683
It's pg-13, for teenagers. But yeah, I feel kind of bad for any young Iron Man fans in the theater. Cause parents bring their kids to these movies despite ratings anyways.
>>82368155
She is portrayed as struggling with herChaoticpowers while also still struggling with grief, guilt, and having nothing and no purpose in life.
Its also likely intended to subtly imply she really is a Witch; they always get shat on and hated blamed for shit and are eternal outsiders. The term "Witch-Hunt" tells you everything.
>>82368327
I don't even think they could've made it a whole lot better. Ultron should've have been a multi-movie villian, lesser than Thanos though.
>>82368756
>Also, Steve telling Ross to stop just when they reach the last example was pretty silly.
She was seeing a video of her home being destroyed anon.
>>82368754
They mentioned at that time they didn't know if RDJ was going to agree to be in AoU.
>>82368754
Iron Man 3 was written as a conclusion because nobody knew if RDJ would renew his contract.
>>82368796
Kids can take it, I grew up watching Predator and Robocop and I turned out
oh
>>82368854
>>82368827
That explains a lot!
>>82367526
Every time I read this I get a little more excited to see it. I cant wait to see his stupid suit torn apart by Cap and Bucky's brotherhood.
>>82368826
No, in the movie they keep going after Sokovia.
>>82368873
I cried watching Disney's Tarzan because the music and lighting in the final fight was scary.
>>82368903
He was probably telling him to stop showing the video about Sokovia.
>>82368873
Now you got me wanting to watch both of those tonight. Dammit anon
>>82368525
7 if 10 seconds in Thor 2 counts.
>>82368316
>Bucky is wormslut
Everything makes sense now
>>82368919
Then why did he say it after they finished showing the video of Sokovia and while a different video was showing?
>>82368756
Yeah I wish they stood up to Ross better at that moment and pointed out that they were trying to minimize collateral damage in New York. Also, considering the scale of everything going on the casualty numbers should've been way higher. Not just in deaths, but people injured and who lost limbs or something, because they certainly weren't afraid to shy away from that shit when showing Tony's parents' deaths.
>>82368826
Actually, it was a video of Nigeria.
>>82368919
Have you seen the movie? It's not cut like the trailer, they add in the UN bombing between Sokovia and Cap's stopping it.
>>82368930
8 if you count the special scene in Antman.
>>82368983
>UN bombing
Wasn't that the building that Wanda destroyed?
>>82368333
>implying they won't just come back eih vibranium tier equipment
>all of cap's avengers
Remind me what cap lost aside from Tony's trust
>>82369004
My bad
>>82368967
is correct.
>>82368930
It doesn't because of how their contract works.
>>82368983
It's not the U.N. That's later.
>>82368934
Complete with torture, experimentation to alter his natureand possibly lots of rape.
>>82368948
>>82368967
>>82368983
>>82369004
They were showing a video of the building that Wanda destroyed.
He's telling him to stop because she feels guilty of it.
>>82369030
I think the way the contract works is they can have it count or not if they wish.
>>82369047
I honestly felt the trailer's version worked better
>>82369067
Yeah, but Wanda destroying that building was a spoiler.
>>82369047
Specifically, he tells him to stop when they do close-ups of the corpses.
>>82367263
she deserves it though
>>82368934
>>82368316
I swear I called this happening like a year ago.
>>82369083
delete this;___;
>>82368659
They mention that most of the files were encrypted and there were thousands of them he probably didn't care
>>82368897
>Everyone went in wanting to hate Tony
>Everyone leaves feeling sorry and sad for him
>>82366709
>we could be making huge infographics about this film
>about how the machine is a symbol
>it's Bucky's dark halo because he's the anti-christ
>don't need to because the movie is actually good
>>82369035
I wonder what the keywords for "suck 100 dicks" were
>>82368909
That fucking leopard was scary as shit.
Thinking about it, I wonder if 7/8 years olds will get scared of panther in this movie. He wears all black and is very aggressive and sneaky. I could see some little pussies getting nightmares out of it.
>>82366638
>rips
What? Is there a full civil war camrip somewhere?link? ;-;
>>82369172
It's a tale of longing and a metaphor for his latent homosexual urges and the ring is a representation of his metaphorical asshole as he awaits penetration from his love.
>>82367002
That scene was hard to watch. When Tony said that I was shocked.
>>82369206
>en espanol, gringo
>>82369206
There's one for the airport fight as well as a full one but it's in hue audio.
>>82369218
If I was Tony I would have just said "You know what fuck it I'm done I'm so fucking done"
>>82369246
Hue is portuguese anon
>>82369244
>>82369246
L-link?
>>82369083
Man, Liz Olsen has gotten into a lot of fucked-up sexual scenarios in her movies hasn't she?
>raped in Martha Marcy May Marlene
>sexual assault backstory in Silent House
>fucks her dad in Oldboy
>>82369261
Hue is Brazilian Portuguese specifically, thank you very much.
But yeah, the video is in jajaja audio.
You know, even Tony's quips were funnier this time around. His "who's speaking" when Ant-Man was tearing shit up made me smile more than the "go to sleep" shit in AOU.
>>82367497
>CGI was fucking ugly most of the time, like, jesus. Tony was suffering from the GL floating-head syndrome pretty badly.
Can we stop ths meme? I mean, okay, some things look like rubber, and some might slighly break the ilusion because it's too unreal and you just know it, like some holograms.
Bur god damn, Robert Downey Jr wore the practical suit in most of the still shots. Stop saying he had floating head when no CGI was used, it makes you people sound like you had nothing to complain about and want to sound impartial.
>>82369255
Why didn't Tony just jump out of the building in that moment?
>lost his team
>lost his friend
>lost his gf
>created ultron
>friend defended guy who killed his parents
>those unresolved daddy issues
>>82369293
Welcome to indie movies.
Glad she's happy in the MCU.
>>82369218
It was so petty, but so broken and sad too.
>>82369301
That wasn't a quip thou
>>82369304
Thistbh
>>82369214
Also, it's colored black. To make it obvious who he belongs with. Who he wants in his annulus ring.
>>82369347
Yes it was.
>>82369347
>>82369380
Well, a quip is supposed to be a 'witty' remark. Was it witty?
>>82369414
Yes
>>82369414
No, it was literally him just trying to understand where Ants voice was coming from
>>82369304
I also wish people would stop using CGI when the they're actually complaining about greenscreens.
>>82366831
>"oh fuck yeah they did it"
>remember this
>"OH FUCK NO THEY'RE GONNA DO IT"
>>82369450
wouldn't ant-man's vocal cords be far too small to produce an audible sound to tony?
>>82369414
>>82369437
He wasn't being witty. He was panicking and shitting himself because the suit wasn't responding. It was funny, yes, but it wasn't a
witty joke from Iron Man's perspective,
>>82369557
I wasn't worried because Ant-Man and the Wasp had already been announced a long time ago and I doubt they'd replace him with O'Grady or make Douglas do it.
>>82369301
Man, the word quip has lost it's meaning and has taken over the meaning of 'joke'.
Whedon writes quips, where every single character tries to one-up the last one and have the final sarcastic say. That gets boring and out of character for Cap and Vision and Ultron especially. It's especially bad because Whedon always writes his dialogue scenes around it. You can always hear them coming, and he gives pause for applause.
That's not to say that they don't work. I don't think there's a lot of quips in AoU that got 0 laughs. In fact, whenever people are talking about favourite lines from the MCU, but there was no-one that laughed at ALL the jokes. The ones that don't land for you really fucking stand out. Repeated viewings exacerbate this to the point where you can't not cringe at it, especially the predictable timing. It then becomes very hard to take the few serious lines seriously because you're annoyed instead of engaged. It works in Firefly and Buffy because they are the underdogs, but the Avengers are the top dogs in AoU. They come off as arrogant most of the time.
Besides having calmer/more serious dialogue from time to time, the Russos and Gunn write jokes with proper setup. If the punchline isn't unexpected, the delivery/timing is. Like Starlord dropping the orb. He lingers on it a bit more than you'd expect every single time so it catches your off-guard. You laugh at the wit of the writer and not the character.
Because if all the characters are witty, then you just have a pretentious writer who thinks everyone should hear all their jokes. The Russos and Wright do this unexpected timing very fucking well by simply barraging you with simple jokes. You often get 1 or 2 per sentence but you never actually see where they are going until the punchline. Taika Waititi is on a whole other level, though. Maybe it's because he's Kiwi or something, He's really fucking great at catching you off-guard without spamming jokes.
>>82369375
I really hope Bucky has some role in the Black Panther solo movie. Even if it's being used as a prop or damsel for the main action again. I just want him to not have to suffer ;_;
>>82369573
Pym Particles.
Plus radio frequencies. I'm sure FRIDAY auto-scans the frequencies it catches.
>>82369597
Well, yes, but I didn't remember that at the time. Simple mistake.
>>82368754
IM3 actually set Tony's retirement as Iron Man: Man in a Can, not Iron Man: The Mechanic. The final scene in which he says "after all... I am Iron Man" means he's not going to stop being "The Mechanic" and trying to fix the world.
He was too dependent of his suits, and of his hero identity, so he got rid of that. That all explains his new goals of world peace and people general security with drones in AoU, because now it's "we have to fight so we can get to go home".
>>82369637
>and Ultron especially
That is retarded. MCU Ultron is explicitely molded after Stark. He is the most likely character to quip in at any given moment.
>>82369637
>ultron quipping
>out of character
In the movie it is clearly stated how he is a copy of stark and that is why he quips and ultron hates it
>>82369637
The orb dropping was actually a flub.
>>82369370
>>82369304
Hell, even Bucky's arm had a practical stand-in for reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Og6sDTQovQ
>>82369685
Seriously.
I swear, it's like people just walked out of Iron Man 3 at the very last minute.
>>82369705
Which makes for an unscary villain and doesn't make any sense since he's supposedly already an entity in the mind gem. Bravo whedong.
>>82369573
Woah it's almost like he has a special suit designed to counter-act the more obvious fall backs of being small, mainly breathing and talking.
>>82369304
There were a lot of pretty blatant paint overs, anon. The shot where he runs up to the fallen Spidey is very obviously a composite.
Not saying it's all bad, the movie had a lot of great practical stunts. But it when it went full CG the results weren't always spectacular.
>>82369705
>>82369725
Right. I concede it makes sense when things are starting. But towards the end, stakes get really fucking high and neither Stark nor Ultron should be quipping. The moment Sokovia lifts off, everybody should be in some state of horror/shock enough for them to be serious about it. Avengers AND Ultron. See: Civil War. It's also a matter of context.
>>82369728
I doubt they used the flub take and just repeated it after they thought it was funny.
>Sorry I couldn't save Rhodey Mr.Stark but everybody gets one.
>>82369792
You having a problem with that doesn't mean it just doesn't work.
I found his insanity creepy and unsettling, and the way he causally quipped while talking to the twins or Nat while discussing his extinction level event were effective.
>>82369218
>guy gives you a shield to protect yourself with
>use it tobeat the shit out of his son to protect the man who killed him and his wife
Steve is a good friend.
>>82368756
>i still think it's kinda retarded that Ross blames the heroes for all dem ded people
>>82368953
>Yeah I wish they stood up to Ross better at that moment and pointed out that they were trying to minimize collateral damage in New York. Also, considering the scale of everything going on the casualty numbers should've been way higher.
Anons, let's not forget everything the Avengers ever fought was their own fault.With the exception being HYDRA stuff.
Think about it. Captain America exists because they used a super serum that also gave birth to Bucky, Red Skull, Hulk and Abomination. Tony made Stane, Vanko and Killian possible with his tech and bad personality. The first Avengers was all on Thor's fault for luring his brother to the Earth. The second one was on Stark for creating Ultron.
It's just like Vision said. The inlfux of super beings actually creates more super villain events and that ends up leading to catastrophes. Zemo is just another "victim".
>>82369757
Vision is way more make-up than I expected
>>82366905
No Clint?
>>82369930
Yeah, they just do minor stuff to his eyes, add some patterns on his skin and insert the glow to the gem. I love how they solved him, one of the few good things to come out of Age of Ultron.
>>82369792
He's not an entity in the mind gem. He's the mind gem giving a mind to Tony's, Banner and HYDRA's algorithm.
Same way Vision is the mind gem giving a mind to JARVIS and ultron vibranium body.
>>82369827
You are right based russos stopped the quipping after rhodey gets hurt
>>82370136
Buttisface as all hell.
>>82369876
I mean tony's father didn't like tony anyways, so cap used it fot what it was intended
>>82369890
>Zemo is just another "victim".
Is he?
Also, Bucky didn't used a super serum, he would be created wether or not cap existed, Red Skull came to be before buffed Steve was a thing, and i'm pretty sure Hulk was the result of gamma fuckery, not trying to replicate the serum like they did with Abomination. And i'm not sure if those things were really Thor's fault, since you could make a case of it being Odin's fault for throwing Mjolnir on Earth instead of any of the other realms. You're right on the rest, though; but it's not like Vision, BP, Hankman or Spidey existing brought more super villains on Earth. Yet.
Actually, scratch Vision from that list, considering Thanos exists.
>>82370311
Actually outside of the airport scene there's almost no quipping.
>>82370211
I'm amazed they kept his design as comics accurate as they did.
>>82366709
Horno
>>82369930
>>82370211
It seems like it, but they remove his whole head and just keep the face t superimpose it on a model.
They are actually aiming towards the uncanny valley feeling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hwTsrBFaMM
>>82370311
>>82369827
Tony has quipped in his third act fights since forever.
It's completely logical that Ultron would too.
CW is different only because he is emotionally broken by what happened to Rhodey and what he learned from Zemo.
People complain about quips to an unreasonable degree.
>>82370434
That's pretty interesting
>>82369827
To be fair, not all of them were quipping in the Sokovia scene, Clint and Wanda were pretty serious, and i think Cap too. In fact, i don't remember anyone but Tony, Rhodes, Mercury, and maybe Sam quipping there.
I think.
>>82370541
They all get lines here and there, but honestly, only Ultron and Tony are the quippiest.
And its actually toned down a bit in the third act.
It seems to me people are just triggered by jokes and a Tony-based Ultron.
>>82370434
Maybe they did a too good job with him because I never got the Uncanny Valley or suspected he was that much CGI.
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>>82370455
Yeah, but if everyone quips and is generally trying to one-up each other, Tony just comes out on top as the biggest cunt of the bunch.
Also, a 3 arc structure works best, and Ultron should've been one of his lowest points, because nobody stole anything, he just really fucked up for the first time.
>>82370541
Yeah, it's not THAT bad, it's just compounded with the rest of the movie and a dash of confirmation bias. I still think they should've subverted the expectations and go full serious after Sokovia lifts up. I think they earned the seriousness at that point.
Wanda never quips, but Clint does that whole speech about QS, Cap is telling Ultron "you didn't finish" while throwing him off a cliff, Natasha is calling Tony shell-head and stuff like that, Thor is talking shit to Ultron.
>>82370658
I fully admit there's confirmation bias adding on to it, but they should be giving people what they don't expect, is my point. It's also the delivery and timing of it all.
I much prefered Civil War Tony who was quippy until he got serious for once, although I guess that was bottled up because of Ultron, so the quality differential adds to Civil War?
>>It's just like Vision said. The inlfux of super beings actually creates more super villain events and that ends up leading to catastrophes.
> Wanda leaves Earth because of this.
> Thanos arrives and kills Vision.
> Top Kek Vision killed by his own logic.
>>82370735
I think the quip complain relates to the idea that AOU should've been the Empire Strikes Back of the MCU.
Except its not.
You don't make ESB by having a hellcarrier come in to save the day, and focusing on all the Avengers helping people.
>>82370963
Civil War is the ESB now.
>>82368627
7 seconds...7 seconds is all I can spare to suffer with you.
I'm not too knowledgeable about Black Panther, who was the bald negress that nearly starts a fight with Natasha?
Why was the captain such a fucking asshole.He's at fault that the airport fight happened, all could have been easily avoided if he had told Tony about his discovery, he should have trusted his friend. And of course holding valuable info about the winter soldier. Valuable info that was relevant to Tony. The fact that he fucked up so badly and still bitched like if he was on the moral high ground was too much for me to like him in this movie
>>82370963
AOU was also promoted as 'the darkest MCU film yet.' and the trailer made Ultron out to be very intimidating, which he was in his initial introduction.
ENGLISH CAMRIP WHEN
>when Bucky beat those German cops with a battering ram
There was a lot of brutality in this movie.
>>82371063
It originally was.
Apparently they changed Ultron completely after test audiences said they didn't like scary Ultron.
>>82370784
I love that he's foreshadowing Infinity War.
>>82371049
Did you just watch the leaked footage? Cause they cut out the part where Cap tells Tony it's an urgent task, and Tony tells him that he has to wait it until it's approved.
Tony is concerned they kill someone and the Avengers get outlawed.
They fucking wrote it really cleanly, man.
>>82370376
>Bucky didn't used a super serum, he would be created wether or not cap existed
No, Bucky had the prototype super serum, the same they used on Red Skull, and HYDRA would proceed to try and control the Winter Soldiers. Bucky was the only "good" inside, that's why he was more controllable.
>Red Skull came to be before buffed Steve was a thing
Yes, but the serum didn't work on him, and made him super evil, whilst making cap super good because it "enhances everything".
Red Skull came first, but his and Bucky's existance were just try outs for Cap's.
>i'm pretty sure Hulk was the result of gamma fuckery, not trying to replicate the serum like they did with Abomination
The Cap serum uses Vita Rays. Hulk was super serum + Gamma Rays.
>since you could make a case of it being Odin's fault for throwing Mjolnir on Earth instead of any of the other realms
Yes, but Odin's is still Thor's family and culture, and Loki chose Earth because he knew it would be specially insulting for Thor.
>it's not like Vision, BP, Hankman or Spidey existing brought more super villains on Earth.
>Yet.
Yet, anon. BP and Vision don't have villains yet. But Spidey's villains only exist (or shoudl exist) because he's there in his existing movies, more so in the Amazing ones, in which his origin is directly tied to his villains origins.
Also, ANTS' villain is not his fault, but it's "Ant-Man" 's fault. Hank Pym allowed for his villain, and Scott had that as heritage too.
>>82369293
She has had some lewd scenes.
>>82370376
Thor - Loki, Malekith
Vision - Thanos
Wanda -Chthon
Tony - Stane, Killian, Ultron
Pym - Cross
>>82371048
Dora Milaje. One of his bodyguards/future wives-in-training.
>Cap's big arms when he stop the helicopter
>he will never hold you
Why live?
>>82367756
>The budget committee usually has them by the balls.
Fucking Perlmutter
Why does the guy have such a stick up his ass?
>>82371103
that whole stairwell sequence was great
>>82371503
When bucky kicks the plywood table and it gets lodged in the door hall. The sound design was pretty fucking great.
>>82371455
Perlmutter was still around during most of CW's filming.
>>82370376
You know how the Super Serum and its knockoffs amplify everything about the recipient? Red Skull and his megalomania? Cap and his virtuousness? Banner and his anger issues? Blonsky and his fighting spirit? What personality traits of Bucky got amplified and affected by it? His melancholy and self-loathing?
>>82368327
I remember that Whedon said that Ultron was going to be Marvel's Empire Strikes Back, but I feel like Civil War has much more of a claim to that.
>genuinely goes with a darker tone
>heroes are broken up and in a low position at the end of the film
>ambiguous, cliffhanger ending
>actually changes the character dynamics of the team
>>82371455
It's not just him. CW didn't look particularly great.
It's just a lot of different FX. Shrinking FX, fuid FX for Wanda, Shrinking FX, Rubber body double, stunt double replacemen, armor/tech FX. It's spread thin. Tony's armor has never looked better than in IM3 because the FX budget was poured into it.
>>82371585
That stuff is done in post. He wasn't around by then.
>>82371603
>hero gets frozen up in the end
I haven't watched Ant-Man yet so that might be explained there but this was bugging meWhy does Ant-man ask for orange slices after he shrinks?
>>82371706
It's not a reference to the first movie. Orange slices are apparently good to eat after you've really exerted yourself in exercise.
>>82371706
I did and I didn't get it either.
>>82370455
>It's completely logical that Ultron would too.
It's logical for the character, true, but it deflates the tension far too much.
I get why Whedon based Ultron on Stark but honestly it doesn't work that well. He needed to be a bit colder, and more calculating.
By Sokovia, he should have defined himself as different from his father.
>>82371120
>test audiences said they didn't like scary Ultron
>test audiences
It's always test audiences
Where do they find test audiences, because I swear that they're people with the worst taste in the world
Man, Bucky and Falcon saved this scene.
>>82371752
>>82371750
>>82371706
Sugary things is how you get ANTS.
>>82371807
Yeah it was pretty forced. Wish she got more stuff to do before it happened, and that they didn't hammer his lingering feelings for Peggy right before so it looked like the only reason he was going for her was because he was on the rebound.
>>82367172
>>82366893
>>82366762
Does anyone have that picture of her butt from a really low angle where she's wearing really small booty shorts.
Asking for a friend.
>>82371796
It's usually just random people they grab from malls or something and ask 'em if they wanna see their movie.
>>82371926
This?
>friend reads all spoilers
>watches all leaked scenes and rips
>'this is such a great movie!'
>He goes and sees it.
>'It was way too predictable.'
>>82371807
I liked the understated romance. It works for Cap, his romance is none of the audience's business and usually takes so much screen time. Ant-Man did that really fucking well too.
Falcon and Bucky reaction was fucking perfect, though. Hoping they have a shot of the three dudes riding in the car all looking worried and uncomfortable with Falcon putting some EW&F on the radio and singing.
>>82371807
Bucky's smile is so awkward looking in this
I noticed that everyone was called by their codename at some point but not Scarlet Witch, is that a characters rights quirk?
>>82370735
>Thor is talking shit to Ultron
Yeah, I felt like the 'I was running out of things to say' bit was really badly timed.
I'm still kind of annoyed that we didn't get a 'We would have words with thee'. Whedon likes to subvert expectations but he does it to a fault. The man has a real allergy to seriousness.
>>82372052
Maybe?
In all the promo videos she's called Scarlet Witch.
>>82371981
Not that one specifically but thanks anyway.
>>82371807
>>82371919
Yeah, I get the feeling that a few scenes were cut from the romance subplot but it was weird seeing him make out with her after she was only in one other scene with him other than her aunt's funeral.
The aunt who he also banged.
>>82372052
Maybe she will be called Scarlet Witch when she truly becomes Scarlet Witch in Infinity War.
I was sad at how ugly Stark's wife ended up being. Damn guy was a player and gets stuck with an ugo bride.
>>82372052
It'd be a bit insulting, considering she's already worried about people being afraid of her because of her powers.
>>82371594
His self-sacrifice and protective instincts and loyalty that Hydra used to twist him into doing their work. It's what made him a good friend and sidekick to Steve.
>>82371706
Yeah I'm not too sure.
Having seen the leaked airport battle on /co/ first, I expected it to be a callback to an earlier line. But watching the actual film it never seemed to come up. Maybe something was cut?
>>82372058
I think he reached the point where everyone was expecting him to subvert, so he managed to not stay ahead of the curb and meet them. So people were disappointed because they expected something more different than the first movie.
>>82372052
>>82372112
I don't think she'd be too comfortable with being called witch in-universe. They also didn't use "Black Widow" or "Falcon" in this movie, I don't think. It's not a quick name to say as Cap. ANTS uses "the Falcon" in his movie because he doesn't know him, but he's gonna call him Sam from now on. It helps establish the relationships and personalities by using name surname or nickname. Their codenames are more of a media thing, in-universe.
I liked that Wanda called him "Viz". I never was quite sure how to pronounce it. "Vij" makes the most sense, but I was never sure.
>>82372240
Yeah, I don't know if it was Whedon himself or if the studio wanted him to be 'more Whedon', but I think it was a mistake overall.
I think Whedon can do serious scenes well; he did in Serenity a few times, but for whatever reason he fell into directing like a stereotype of himself for Age of Ultron.
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>>82372127
The last time we saw them interact onscreen together in the last movie he didn't even seem to like her very much. Sure, Black Widow tells him to go after her at the end but i don't get that impression that he really did.
>dat cold "Neighbor"
>>82372161
She probably roped him into the baby trap or he ran out of stamina towards the end.
>>82370365
>my greatest creation...is you
Shut up, Clint.
>>82371706
>>82371750
>>82371752
>>82371859
>>82372204
Didn't you guys ever play sports as kids?
Predictions on the fanfiction that will come out?
Reminder that Steve has 3300+ entries in AO3
>>82372517
Yes, football. Never got orange slices.
Also, why are you quoting me when I'm the one who stated it was for after exercise?
>>82372555
At least 2000 BLACKED fics of Zemo and BP.
>>82372599
>The living are not done with you yet
>>82372588
Because you said 'apparently'.
>>82372626
And because of Zemo's comment about his eyes.
>>82372555
Panther/Bucky out the wazooat least in my dreams
>after all the film incarnations Peter is finally a wisecracking fuckin nerd teen
Fucking finally
>>82372626
Funny how Zemo was the most dangerous guy they've ever faced, and one of the ones they'd benefit the most from being dead, but he's the one who survives. Not gonna end well, and I'm hoping to see him return.
>>82372658
Nah, it'll be Falcon and Bucky.
>>82372555
Probably Peter and Tony.
Can someone give me the play by play of the final fight between Cap and Iron Man?
>>82372681
>Phase 4's entire storyline is Standoff
>>82372685
>implying it won't be a Sam/Panther Oreo with Bucky as the white cream filling
>>82372685
Falcon/Bucky/Panther
Steve cries.
Wow, Tony. Shame you couldn't overwhelm Team Cap with sheer numbers and firepower
>He killed my mom.
>Not 'my parents' even though he just watched his father being beaten to death on screen
>Lifting his hands to protect face because he really believed Cap was about to execute him by crushing his skull with the shield.
>Spend millions building device so he can roleplay with projections of his dead parents in order to resolve his daddy issues.
Damn Tony, you got some problems.
>>82372717
I wouldn't mind seeing Standoff jumping the queue and making it to the MCU. It was a pretty solid event.
Just had a thought as to how Zemo might figure into Infinity War.
The Time Gem and the Soul Gem, both of which would allow him ways to see his family again.
Both of which are going to be revealed in Phase 3.
Maybe that'll be Part 1 of Infinity War, the Time Gem is revealed somewhere on Earth and Zemo forms the Masters of Evil to obtain it.
And then Thanos appears near the end to fuck shit up even more.
>>82372599
tumblr already ships BP with Bucky
>>82372871
>What is 2 hours and 30 minutes of buildup?
>>82372714
Starts pretty even, then bucky and cap team up to bonk tony in the head several times, bucky goes all aggressive on iron man but gets his arm blown off my tony's chest beam and KO, cap starts manhandling tony pretty hard, Tony activates auto combo, they do the pose from the comic cover, cap then gets the upper hand pins tony down and tears his mask off, almost seems that he's going to decapitate tony with his shield but he just deactivates the whole suit by damaging the central chest core.
Everybody is sad and miserable, the end.
>>82372846
No more Jarvis to control all that.
Tony ain't gonna mess with no more autonomous bots either. Probably for the best.
>>82372681
Seriously, Loki's whole thing on the helicarrier was trying to turn the Avengers on themselves. He had full on magic and the volatility of the Hulk to work with, but still failed. Zemo, who is literally just some man running around in a world of super heroes, did more damage than a full on Norse God.
>>82372846
Most of those suits were pretty fragile. Once word got out that they were empty, Wanda could've probably trashed them pretty quick.
>>82372739
>>82372756
good thing hydra trained him on taking that much dick
>>82372714
Tony blows Bucky's arm off, then Steve wrecks his shit until Friday tells Tony how to counter his fighting style, Tony partially wrecks Steve, and then Steve counterattacks and uses the shield to deactivate Tony's armor. Afterwards, Tony acts like a child after all he went through, and Steve disses the shield. That's about it.
Also, i gotta admit that i liked how ANTS played Vision's comic role in fucking with Steve's suit.
>>82372555
Steve/Bucky alone has 18k+
>>82372986
How touch and praise starved do you think he is?
>>82372977
Loki tried to give them a common enemy/problem with Hulk. Zemo didn't give them the option until it was too late. He went full on Ozymandias with his keikaku, but still had time to brag in the end, instead of feeling mopey.
>>82372739
>dat filename
Well played.
>>82372871
Tony is a broken man. All of these movies have weaved a tapestry of a man that desperately needs help, but refuses to ask for it.
Along comes Pepper and things start to turn around. Then things get worse, Then she leaves. Then things get even worse.
Even the events of the first Iron Man movie would be enough to fuck someone up for life.
>>82372986
Did they go so far as to use two blacks at once?
>>82372986
>Also, i gotta admit that i liked how ANTS played Vision's comic role in fucking with Steve's suit.
only during the airport. at the end it was bucky/cap damaging it throughout the pursuit until he had nothing left by the time they actually fought.
>>82372871
>>He killed my mom.
>>Not 'my parents' even though he just watched his father being beaten to death on screen
>Tony's line in Avengers about how Cap was 'That guy my father always talked about'
>Ends the fight with 'That shield doesn't belong to you, my father made it'.
Palpable inferiority complex.
>>82372756
Steve jacks off to watching his unlucky childhood friend get cucked.
I've got one question
Does this masterful social commentary get adapted into the story?
it's my favourite page from the comic, and really gets across how dated and irrelevant Captain America is in the modern world.
Do you guys think they'll get both the Avengers and the GotG for IW: Part 2? Seems like a lot of budget spent on actors if they also add the Inhumans and Strange.
>>82373175
Yes, the Russos already said they are excited to work with Thor and Starlord.
>>82372972
>Tony ain't gonna mess with no more autonomous bots either. Probably for the best.
Except he was desperate enough, angry enough, or both, to let Friday control the suit near the end of the fight. Basically at this point Tony had created battle AI that is superior to himself, which is going to cause problems in the future when Friday go crazy.
>>82373157
More like the opposite.
>>82372972
He's got Friday now, though. Jarvis was just an AI he made and I imagine any difference with the other AIs is just in personality and voice.
Vision is Jarvis upgraded and given true self-awareness by the mind gem.
>>82373102
>kidnapped by terrorists
>shrapnel in the heart
>fails to save science buddy
>weapons used BY terrorists that kidnapped him
>betrayed by mentor figure
>found out that the arc reactor is poisoning him between movies
What a Stark Experience
>>82372962
if it were simply cap vs Iron man with no emotional issues, who do you think would have won?
>>82373131
Yeah, it was only in the airport, but Tony didn't have much time to repair it, apparently. Unless the suit in the helicopter was a whole different one than the airport fight.
Maybe he just was too broken to keep shitting on other people, but how come Tony didn't blame Vision instead of Sam for leaving Rhodes paraplegic? I'm sure that if that lazor got to hit Sam, he would be in an even worse situation, so it's not his fault really that he avoided it, more that Rhodes was another collateral damage.
>>82372555
As of today the top ships are:
1. Steve/Bucky 17k+
2. Steve/Tony 11k+
3. Clint/Coulson 8k+ (what the fuck)
4. Clint/Natasha 7k+
5. Pepper/Tony 6k+
6. Loki/Tony 5k+
7. Loki/Thor 4k+
8. Jane Foster/Thor 3k+
9. Fitz/Simmons 3k+
10.Steve & Bucky with additional 2k+ fics because AO3's tagging system is fucked
>>82373199
I honestly can't wait to see how they handle Thor. They way he has been used so far, he's arguably the most bland major character in the MCU.
>>82373157
That page perfectly sums up SJW's and their modern take on puritan conservatism quite well. Confused over terminology and meaning: missing the point by a country (pun intended) mile. Not one of the things she mentions has anything to do with national identity.
>>82373157
I don't get it. Is America supposed to be pop culture? He's fighting for people to be alive/free to enjoy it, even at the cost of him doing so.
I get that she's trying to make him feel detached, but I don't think he doesn't know he's detached. It's a sacrifice for him. That's like complaining at your dad when he tells you to study for college because he never went and doesn't know how hard it is.
>>82373204
Point being, he wasn't ready/prepared for it, nor did he have the preptime he (unintentionally) did for Iron Man 3.
>>82373214
I think Vision only has JARVIS' personality, not his memories.
>>82373297
Because Team Cap was the one instigating the fight, in his perspective. Vision followed Rhodeys orders, Sam was just the guy that got out of the way. It's not a rational decision to laser him, it was emotional.
>>82373339
>Not one of the things she mentions has anything to do with national identity.
We got a quick one here.
>>82373297
>Unless the suit in the helicopter was a whole different one than the airport fight.
Did the suit have any battle damage? Otherwise, it likely was.
>how come Tony didn't blame Vision instead of Sam for leaving Rhodes paraplegic?
Because Rhodes asked Vision to fire. The reason he had to fire was because of Sam. And Tony didn't even blame Sam all that much for it. He didn't even act particularly angry; the only thing he did was hit Sam with a pulsar blast, and that was just him getting his frustration out of his system.
>>82373324
>I honestly can't wait to see how they handle Thor. They way he has been used so far, he's arguably the most bland major character in the MCU.
I love the possibility that Thor and Banner are leaving their women problems behind them for Thor 3. They could be free to be themselves for a while.
>>82373225
Tony's life is a piece of shit. I know there's plenty of reason to hate him, but he's the most realistic of the MCU heroes to me. A broken, arrogant yet at the same time self loathing, PTSD-ridden mess of a man who still wants to do as much good as he can despite being kind of bad at it. That's about the type you'd have to be to be a super hero.
>>82373061
Oh i'm sure he got touched quite a bit.He probably creams his pants crying if you complement him too many times.
>>82373398
>A broken, arrogant yet at the same time self loathing, PTSD-ridden mess of a man who still wants to do as much good as he can despite being kind of bad at it.
Isn't that Comic Hank Pym?
>>82373430
Isn't MCU Tony more of an asshole?
>>82372871
>>82373102
This has been my main gripe with the way MCU Tony has been treated in the sequels+AOU, He has glaring mental issues, but the movies aren't allowed to take them serious for more than a few minutes.
CW did everything right with the character imo.
>>82373393
Isn't Tessa Thompson supposedly Valkyrie and Thor's new love interest?
>>82373299
>Clint/Coulson above Clint/Natasha
That shit still has fans? Only reason people shipped it in the first place was because of that bit with SHIELD in Thor. I figure shit like Cap/Coulson and Clint/Natasha would have far superceded it by now.
After seeing Holland's Spidey, I don't know how we endured Garfield's. Maybe it's because ASM 2 was just so shit but I think Homecoming will be the Spidey we deserve.
>>82373398
Disregarding the couple of weeks or months that a super villain is fucking around, i'm sure 8 years should be enough to see a psychologist. I mean, for one, he went through a hell of a lot of shit, but then again, he's apparently still inmature to accept outside help, and i honestly don't know if that's a good or bad thing.
>>82373430
Except Tony kind of deserves the shit he gets. Or at least it stems from his actions. He kind of brings it on himself.
616 Pym's actions stem from his illnesses. Pym is humble, most of the time.
>>82373510
The Clint/Coulson phenomena is just as weird to me as Darcy/everybody.
>>82373117
Bucky was kidnapped by the Russians, and then turned into an assassin by a Nazi group so he's pretty much been surrounded by only white dicks for like 70 years.
Black dicks are the only dicks Bucky can look at anymore without getting some PTSD flashback tragically i'm sure Steve understands.
>>82373479
>He has glaring mental issues, but the movies aren't allowed to take them serious for more than a few minutes
It's a shame that Marvel disallowed Favreau from exploring Tony's alcoholism in any depth in Iron Man 2.
>>82373386
Actually thinking on it, why didn't Rhodes deal with Falcon himself? They wanted to chase down the jet, sure. But they could've kept Tony on it, and had Rhodes stay behind to keep the stragglers of Team Cap off Tony.
Why ask the guy who's like 5 kilometers away to try and hit him from the ground?
>>82373516
I felt like a kid again with this Peter.
>>82366638
may is best girl m8
>>82373456
>Isn't MCU Tony more of an asshole?
Still, I understand why Tony deteriated after IM3. The fact is Pepper was what kept Tony sane, and without her Tony couldn't function.
However, there is NO REASON why Pepper need to take Tony's shit. As much as she loves him, he had been a horrible boyfriend. Pepper is still keeping Tony's business going, so that he can still be rich and afford to be a superhero. But Pepper has rights too, and if she doesn't want to be Tony's babysitter anymore no one could blame her. It is hard to remember the simple fact that Pepper is still human, and she has feelings. Tony Stark is an unpleasant man to be around and one can't expect Pepper to stick with him unconditionally like AI butlers do.
>>82373526
While it may be enough time to seek help it may not be enough time for it to do any good since bad shit keeps happening.
>>82373061
Oh I'm sure he was spoiled with the touching.
>>82373558
I think it was just out of concern that Tony wouldn't be able to stop Cap and Buck all by himself. Granted it could have gone exactly like you said but Rhodes figured if they could knock out Falcon without losing ground that would be the optimal decision. I thought it made sense.
>>82373526
He did try consulting with Bruce in the IM3 post credit scene. Wrong doctor but he trusts him enough to unload some of thi problems.
>>82373516
Garfield in ASM was pretty good IMO, in 2 he was too busy gay bulging with Harry to be any good.
>>82373558
War Machine probably doesn't have the precision? Maybe he thought Vision was right behind him? Maybe he was just invested in the chase? There's a bunch of reasons. People don't act rationally all the time, and in retrospect the character would probably agree with you.
>>82373586
I'll go with the one that needs love pham.
>>82373589
I'm proud of Pepper for leaving him. The man has way too many issues and causes way too much destruction around him. It's not her responsibility to keep cleaning up after his messes.
>>82373283
Probably Iron Man if he keeps his distance.
>>82373558
>Actually thinking on it, why didn't Rhodes deal with Falcon himself?
Far too much of Warmachine's weapons are lethal in nature that he probably risk killing Falcon outright. That was why he pulled out the baton to begin with, because he really couldn't use most of his guns and grenade launchers.
>Rhodes at the end of the film
What a fucking trooper
>>82373558
Because Vision could likely hit Falcon without any danger to War Machine (or Falcon, for that matter), but couldn't since he was emotionally shaken.
>>82373641
I mean it was a split second call, so I get that it wasn't the most thought out thing and I'm willing to let that slide.
But all through the fight Rhodes uses his sound wave blast thing to incapacitate folks from afar, right? Seems like that would've worked well enough on falcon, and IM2 showed Rhodes to be a pretty competent strategist.
>>82373713
Sound wave thing, the thing he used on Wanda to make her drop the tower.
>>82373430
He never slapped Pepper.
>>82373735
He didn't want to risk having Falcon fall down. He just wanted him to glide.
>>82373730
>but couldn't since he had a boner
Corrected.for real though does he have anything down there or what
>>82373516
>I don't know how we endured Garfield
Because he was better than Tobey Maguire.
>>82373713
I dunno m8, a lazor beam from an outer-space gem that you don't even know how it works sounds way more dangerous than a rocket launcher. But then again, spur of the moment and shit.
Also, why didn't Tony just gave armor-like legs to Rhodes? The things he had at the end were pretty primitive when compared to what he can make.
>>82367795
I need this in high rez so I can get posters printed
>>82373715
TonyxRhodes 4 lyfe
But now that Tone isn't in avengeshit i wonder will he have a more hands on mentor role with Pete and what about May is their potential for her to replace Pepper and will they redeem Tone or fuck his life up more. Vision scares me.
>>82372006
If you put the three of them in the car looking uncomfortable until the radio is turned on, you KNOW, just KNOW the three of them would have "What is Love?" start playing and imitate the SNL sketch for the blooper BluRay.
I need a photoshop of this.
>>82373848
I think it's implied he might be able to walk again, so Tony won't need to build him actual robot legs.
>>82373848
>Also, why didn't Tony just gave armor-like legs to Rhodes? The things he had at the end were pretty primitive when compared to what he can make.
It is very clear that Tony is testing out a prototype, that's why he is asking Rhodes for feedback. You can't expect to build robotic legs for someone without getting input from them. I am sure by the time Warmachine flys again the finished article would be no less functional than what the Japanese already have IRL.
>>82373882
>Vision scares me
I can't understand how is it that Vision doesn't unnerve everyone around him, holy shit. I kept on expecting him to go berserk and kill someone during the fight.
Which is pretty cool, I guess.
Also: people hyped T'Challa so hard that he felt really lackluster to me. Spidey stole the show, big time. Shame about his shitty voice, though.
>>82373848
>I dunno m8, a lazor beam from an outer-space gem that you don't even know how it works sounds way more dangerous than a rocket launcher. But then again, spur of the moment and shit.
Not really. They know what it does. It breaks stuff. That's all they needed to know.
Remember; Jarvis was Tony's most advanced A.I. and Vision is a more powerful version of that. The kind of precision needed to hit Falcon while making sure Rhodey was safe from the line of fire shouldn't have been difficult at all for Vision to do.
So, how much better is this than Civil War II will be?
>>82373772
If he can magick himself a cape he can make whatever size or shape penis he wants. Probably can't physically ejaculate though.
>>82374004
But Vision is a gentle, spaghetti in pockets sort of guy who does everything his daddy tells him to.
>went to see it today, full theater
>Black Panther shows up for the first time in the roof chase
>dude at my side goes "shiieeet" and leans forward, interested
>stays like that for the whole chase
>T'challa removes his mask, shows it to the camera
>dude at my side goes "HOLY SHIT"
I tend to forget that 80% of movie goers don't really know about the comics.
>>82374099
Civil War II is being written by Brian Bendis so it's gonna be terrible and take 10 issues to get to the actual plot
>>82374004
>I can't understand how is it that Vision doesn't unnerve everyone around him, holy shit. I kept on expecting him to go berserk and kill someone during the fight.
Vision really should be under greater scrutiny than Wanda. His complete obedience toward Tony was the only thing saving him.
If anything, Vision understands that Wanda is in the same boat as him, and yet was unable to comprehend that the average human couldn't put themselves at the mercy of someone else like Vision could. If only Wanda obey Tony's every word, likely reasoned Vision, Wonda would not have been needed to be incarcerated. The fact that Wanda couldn't do that is what Vision failed to understand.
>"Cap, Barnes, hey. Heard you two were going to go up against asquad of Soviet Supersoldiers, so I thought I'd dust off Veronica just to be on the safe side."
I think the finale would've gone a lot differently if Tony had joined them while wearing this.
>>82374103
Why did he make himself a cape anyway? What purpose did it serve?
>>82374131
Hah. I hadn't even thought about T'challa being BP could be a surprise to the average audience.
>>82373589
Pepper definitely wasn't in the wrong for leaving him. It takes a very specific kind of person to be in a relationship with someone like Tony or anyone with those kinds of mental and emotional issues, really. Someone who knows how hard it will be and accepts it.
>>82374163
>Why did he make himself a cape anyway? What purpose did it serve?
In AoU he was copying Thor's outfit.
>>82374163
He saw Thor had one and knew it was boss.
>>82369162
I was kinda surprised at how much they punched for the kill during that fight -- both Tony and Steve. Didn't expect anyone to be killed, but they weren't holding back at all.
>>82373639
I didn't like his voice though. Too whiny, whereas this kid isn't great either but at least he has the excuse of sounding like an actual kid rather than a whiny adult, and his voice doesn't waver as much.
>>82373526
Even if he did, that shit's not even close to a miracle cure. Many people wouldn't be able to come back at all from half the shit these heroes go through.
>>82374174
He was also full of shit in IM3 when he promised he was going to stop building suits and obsessing over saving the world. He got much worse in AOU.
Just wondering, did they ever resolve the plot hole of Bucky being both a HYDRA weapon and a Soviet one? Was he used by HYDRA agents working within Russia? Was he on loan to them from HYDRA? Or what?
>>82374217
Nah, Steve was just trying to incapacitate.
He was fighting hard enough that Tony thought that he was gonna die, though.
>>82374272
>Just wondering, did they ever resolve the plot hole of Bucky being both a HYDRA weapon and a Soviet one? Was he used by HYDRA agents working within Russia? Was he on loan to them from HYDRA? Or what?
HYDRA was in EVERY major nation. They are a global power and was on both sides of the Cold War.
>>82374131
I don't see how anyone could be surprised by that. T'challa says he's going to hunt Bucky down. Who else would Black Panther have been?
>>82374264
That was more like a relapse for Tony; he "HAD" to get back into the superheroing business to take out Hydra. Then he ended up creating Ultron while trying to put an end to all major threats to the world, which caused him a lot of guilt and made him unable to stop being a superhero (which was the reason he gave as to why he and Pepper were separated).
>>82374264
I assume CW marks the start of his upswing. In that it's rock bottom, so it's time to build back up.
>>82374296
Still found it pretty stupid how they could even go toe-to-toe against the Iron Man armor. A punch from Tony should've killed them both.
>>82372991
>Tony acts like a child
I don't know if that's how I'd describe it. He sounded genuinely heartbroken about Steve's betrayal.
>>82372555
tumblr is into T'chucky
https://www.tumblr.com/search/t%27chucky
>>82374223
Seriously, as if the stunt as a terrorist hostage and plethora of daddy issues weren't enough to wreck any normal person, Tony's had to personally murder an alien civilization, then went on to birth an artificial lifeform which immediately tried to kill him. At this point, Civil War is just icing on the cake.
>>82374332
He probably thought it was an agent sent by T'challa or something, not T'challa himself.
>>82374264
Well IM3 was shit and the worst of capeshit I've seen in this decade, so I'm okay with it being ignored as much as possible.
>>82374223
True. Most people in Tony's shoes, or any of Avengers' shoes for that matter, would have tried to end it at least once.
>>82371926
It's OK, I found it.She really looks like Olsen here, huh
>>82374359
With the help of Spider-Man's boypussy?
I kid, but having to step up as a mentor for Peter will probably help straighten him out.
>>82374426
Tony and Wanda are PTSD bombs ready to blow at any minute.
How did tony made a comback while being beaten to shit by cap? Its like he can read his moves
>>82374399
>the worst of capeshit
Anon, that's not Thor 2.
>>82374534
Asked friday for Cap's framedata and became Daigo Umehara.
>>82374399
>Well IM3 was shit and the worst of capeshit I've seen in this decade
Never seen Thor?
>>82374374
Broken boy with his broken toys, Daddy didn't love him enough, his friends don't want to play with him no more, Steve took all of Howard's love(that was meant for TONY) and squandered it by siding with his murderer.
He sounded both petty and heartbroken when demanding the shield back.
>>82374585
IM3 is way worse.
>>82374582
I beat daigo once
>>82374534
He lets Friday take control of the suit since he doesn't have the reflexes to keep up with Cap in hand to hand combat.
>>82374366
Super soldiers, anon. I mean, Steve could stop a helicopter from taking off and swim faster than a mini-submarine underwater. Plus, Bucky had a cyborg arm and Cap had his shield.
>>82374587
These are not even close childish issues, even if they stem from childhood shit. It is very clear in that scene just how far back those issues go, though.
>>82374608
Nah. I bet you're a 'MUH MANDARIN' fag. Only reason to sperg so much out over that movie.
Would it have been better if zemo just resurrected all those super soldiers and fought the 4?
>>82374381
>waah if you pair Bucky with someone who's not T'Challa or you dislike it because you already shipped him with someone else you're WACIST
Nevermind that T'Chucky while fun has little material to elevate it above an entertaining joke pairing while Cap and Bucky actually stuck their necks out for each other for years and Widow and Bucky have some basis from the comics (and implications they used to know each other).
I mean the people hating on T'Chucky because they think it's abusive are stupid as fuck but I'm pretty sure it's not motivated by racism as much as the nonspecific kind of shipper retardation.
Did Captain America get a power Boost?
In WS a merc gave him a bit of challenge in a hand to hand fight, but here he beat Iron man without taking any damage and handled spider man.
I got nothing against cap but I just like consistency or I may have misunderstood his powers or something
>>82374366
Theyre super soldiers though
>>82374706
It's my headcanon that Cap is getting stronger movie by movie.
>>82374679
No, and I'm really happy that's not the direction they chose to go.
I'm sick of "A fights B, but then they team up to deal with C" situations. It would've left the whole 'civil war' completely unresolved.
>>82374662
It's about the Mandarin and about the fact that I paid money to see an Iron Man movie, with Iron Man armors, not flying cardboard toys + The Robert Downey Jr show. It was overall a huge fucking let down.
>>82374640
Yeah and Iron Man did what Cap did but with the helicarrier.
>>82374682
At this point the only ship with MCU Bucky that makes "sense" is with Cap. Because they actually have a deep relationship in canon. Though it's annoying that deep male friendship just can't be a thing according to Tumblr. Even when it can rival a romantic relationship in how much it means to those involved.
>>82374730
Perhaps the serum got rid of his strength ceiling.
>>82369061
I'm pretty sure at one point Feige confirmed it didn't count. Hemsworth and Evans are like besties IRL and have been trying to cameo in eachother's movies for awhile now, they only let it happen if it didn't count.
>>82374682
I'm no too hot on this T'Challa because his whole character is just a revenge-redemption arc in this film not much to relate on yet.
>>82374706
Gsp is not a normal human
I fuckinf hate niggers, why did they make black panther a nigger. Not being a racist btw
>>82374769
Bucky and Sam get along pretty well.They seem to love each other IRL too so I hope they get more future scenes together. They have great chemistry.
>>82374734
This. The movie made you think it was going to do the same old tired 'make friends to fight the true bad guy' final act we've come to expect, but it took a sudden turn which led up to a much more personal and intense fight between the opposing heroes.
>>82372185
But her arc is likely partly about embracing the fact she is a Witch and giving no fucks.
The fear of her is pretty much because she's a witch and is heavily fueled by primeval fears of the unknowable.
With the Hulk people can see what he does its physical, with Wanda its beyond comprehension.
>>82374734
Nah i bet theyre out of budget for atleast 10 mins of fight
>>82374760
I can admit IM3 is an acquired taste and not an objectively good MCU movie, but calling it the worst capeshit ever is stretching it.
>>82374815
>Gsp
Who?
The whole things about the accords gets forgotten rather quickly.
Also I'm pretty sure that the accords would not pass if you bomb the meeting that was meant to pass it.
>>82374537
Thor 2 wasn't as bad as people say it was. It was okay, not great. Worst capeshit of the decade so far is probably something like Green Lantern, or BvS, or ASM2.
>>82375003
Your step dad
>>82375049
Second half of The First Avenger is up there aswell.
>>82374769
It's kinda funny though that Bucky's role in this story is basically that of the heroine love interest's in a lot of JRPGs and animu shit.
>>82375049
Kickass 2.
>>82374608
>IM3 is way worse.
IM2 is way worse than IM3.
>>82375116
Nah im a critic in rotten tom so my opinion is correct
>when the tape started playing
I almost let out an audible OHSHIT only to hear a ton of them when the car crashed
>>82366638
Suddenly this scene in Iron Man 2 gets a whole new meaning.
>>82374679
>Would it have been better if zemo just resurrected all those super soldiers and fought the 4?
No, because these 5 guys, strong as they are, is still weaker than the aliens who invaded New York. Zemo knows it is pointless to raise an army if it is going to be weaker than what the Avengers had already defeated.
>Sign Accords
>Avengers now work with the UN to best utilise their abilities
>Avengers can now work with local authorities to best coordinate missions, such as evacuating public areas if there's a likelyhood of a fight, or having emergency services already ready to role if things go bad
>Because the Avengers are UN sanctioned if something goes wrong the blame is shared across multiple parties rather than everything just being lumped on the Avengers
>Avengers can now be held responsible for their actions if they do something really bad
>Amendments to the Accords could be made to keep the Avengers happy
Literally no reason not to sign them other than Cap's arrogance
>>82375221
But Zemo knows that it's not pointless to have an army that can work 100% in the shadows.
>>82375292
Captain usa is literally the usa that wants freedom
>>82375292
Yes but
>Say you want to help somewhere in Sub Saharan Africa or south East Asia
>But in order to be there you need permission from the government, but they don't want you there. So you can't be there because of the accords
>>82375292
>Literally no reason not to sign them other than Cap's arrogance
Except freedom. They'd essentially become slaves/2nd class peoples. Well, at least Cap, Vision and Wanda (and maybe Spidey) would since their shit doesn't come from a suit.
>>82375319
>But Zemo knows that it's not pointless to have an army that can work 100% in the shadows.
That would just be anothe Hydra. And Hydra couldn't defeat the Avengers.
The point is that Zemo wanted to defeat the Avengers, and he found a way, because he isn't so retarded as to try to copy what every other LOSER out there was doing.
>>82375387
Loser detected
>>82374154
Its unnervingly like Tom King's Vision.
>>82375292
>have to save the universe from Thanos
>can't because you are too busy fighting ISIS under the orders of the UN
>even then, you would have to fill a fuckload of documents to even have the Avengers leave Earth
>>82374682
Black tumblr fans are already policing the fandom on what is and isn't "allowed" the same way they did with anything regarding the Falcon. Apparently shipping Natasha with Black Panther is racist and Keep Whites Out Of Wakanda. I've read so many posts about how Black Panther isn't "for you" so keep your dirty non-black hands off of it.
Then they cry that these black characters lack fanworks after they chase everyone out of it. Black Panther is one of my favorite characters and I'm hype as fuck about the movie, but the black fandom's attitude regarding any black characters is so hard to deal with.
>>82375049
>>82375110
>>82375083
>not the fucking FF
You even forgot about it with how bad it was,
>>82375083
Hardly. It's not bad so much as bland and forgettable. The kiss and plane crashing scenes were alright, and so was Red Skull getting sucked up by the Cosmic Cube.
>>82375387
And his way only worked because of good timing. Whereas hydra failed because of bad timing.
>>82375452
>Implying that Russia and China will allow them to fight ISIS
>>82374004
Vision picked up the fucking hammer.
He's not a threat to anyone. Fuck elevators.
So why cant caps shield penetrate tonys armor when vibranium is the next hardest to adamantium? Also, why didnt tony make a suit made out of vibranium? If kang can do it, he probably can too
>>82375474
Reminds me of how everybody was into Finn/Poe early on when Star Wars 7 came out but then everybody moved to Kylux because the range of acceptable subjects you could write about for Finn/Poe was so limited that if you were into anything remotely kinky, dramatic, or sad you were being "problematic". And then they bitched and moaned that the reason people stopped making Finn/Poe stuff was because of whitecock syndrome when it's because they personally policed Finn/Poe into becoming a vanilla boring piece of shit.
>>82375565
>Also, why didnt tony make a suit made out of vibranium?He likely will come Infinity War Part II
>>82375604
Exactly. I saw one girl attack a T'Chucky fic because it mentioned T'Challa having a big penis and how dare you with your stereotypes. Turns out the author was black and defended herself saying she has a size kink and she thinks she should be allowed to write it. First girl responded with but think of Those Racist Whites reading your fic will take it wrong.
It's tiring.
>>82375679
Wow, that's retarded.Link to said fic?
>friend 1: i just came from watching CW
>i didn't really liked it, it was all quips quips quips
>me: but it wasnt, at most, the scenes with Tony were the ones with quips
>friend1: nah, i literally just watched it and half of it were pure jokes
>BvS was still better
>female friend 1: that's just the way marvel is, even in their comics
>proceed to get my autism triggered and argue with them, pointing out that DC has also plenty of jokes and that marvel is also plenty serious
>get triggered when they say that DC is super srs dark, suck batgod's dick, say how supes is all muscle and no brains, and joke on how all of mahvel's heroes's intern conflicts would be solved with a psychologist, meanwhile they don't say the same thing about DC, even if it doesn't apply for a shitload of characters on both companies
>get so triggered that i was about to blow my full autism load on them, but decide to keep my mouth shut, since i'm not really keen on them seeing that
I love my friends, but i can't for the love of fuck argue comics with them.
Like, subscribe, etc...
I really hope this movie gets the Ant-Man fanart rolling.
>>82375835
>tumblr
>>82375851
Well yeah, where else are you going to find Ant-Man fanart? Pixiv isn't doing it.
>>82375851
>complaining about Tumblr on /co/
>>82375851
>Pretending the majority of fanart posted on /co/ isn't from tumblr.
>>82374815
I thought he was that's why it shocked Cap how resilient he was before he put him down and didn't he escape?
>>82374154
> Vision at present values life, but not the things that make it worth living, such as self-determination and being treated fairly.
>>82375851
Tumblr has many great art blogs. It's just that everything else sucks.
>>82375911
>Humans should be free to make their own mistakes
>Unless you're Wanda
>...actually it only applies to Tony.
A bit biased there Vision.
>>82375604
>>82375679
Good thing HYDRA Trash Party gives no fucks then, they are my lifeblood when it comes to good or interesting Cap fanfic.
>>82374760
>Yeah and Iron Man did what Cap did but with the helicarrier.
Are you talking about Avengers? He was using his ability of flight to push the fans, anon. All the force he exerted was due to the jets on his feet.
>>82375977
I agree with Vision.
Wanda is an exception.
>>82375851
Art blogs are alright, anon. Lots of our favorite drawfags have art blogs. It's when they're saturated withUNSOLICITED OPINIONSthat they're unacceptable.
>>82376082
Wanda dindu nuffin. She saved more lives in Logos and they still blame her. Goddamnit Tony.
SERIOUS QUESTION...
Olsen vs Dawson?
>>82376181
Who?
>>82376181
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>>82369035
Who drew that? Google gives me nothing.
>>82376113
You're waifu is a dangerous person anon.
>>82376201
"Night Nurse", I think? From Daredevil.
>>82376233
I honestly don't remember. I think I got it from some Korean artist's Twitter though. It's been forever.
>>82376082
I guess you could say people Fear Wanda Before All Others.
>>82376181
Olsen.
That one looks good, but Elizabeth is 2qt4me.
>>82376181
How is that even a question?
Wait so how much of Bucky's arm does he have left? The stump in the flashback seemed to have been halfway through his forearm and the buzzsaw didn't cut that much more off, but his stump in the post credits scene seemed to go all the way up to his shoulder.
>>82376353
I always thought it included his shoulderblade.
>>82376353
It could have been hacked off more over time through the years as he got arm upgrades and replacements.
>>82376381
Oh that's kinda depressing. Reminds me of the shit in Gundam Thunderbolt.
>>82367573
Well, Superman lost in his own movie
>>82376345
>dat overracted shout after that
She's so perfect.
>>82376345
>Eats a fruit instead of a donut
gotta watch that weight I see
>>82376206
Trance 2013
>>82376381
>It could have been hacked off more over time through the years as he got arm upgrades and replacements.
Most likely. Basically every time they need to change the arm they would need to remove a bit more of the original.
>>82376660
What happens if they run out of arm?
>>82375515
>And his way only worked because of good timing. Whereas hydra failed because of bad timing.
Remember what Zemo said about having patience? Patience gives you good timing.
>>82375565
>Also, why didnt tony make a suit made out of vibranium?
Tony's suit in the comics is already pretty close to vibranium in durability using his custom alloys, it's just that using actual vibranium was never his preference. And he change his suit components so often that it would be a hassle dealing with old vibranium parts that he couldn't recycle.
>>82376256
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>>82376666
>What happens if they run out of arm?
Basically they could keep going until he became a full body cyborg.
>>82376666
You get more arm...errr.
>>82376732
>eventually Bucky is nothing but a head attached to a spine
WInter Soldier Revengeance when?
>>82376719
>not 'HelloDarknessMyOldFriend.jpg'
Tony might as well go full robo and hire Death's Head to join the Governengers, yes?
>>82375474
Heh speaking of which I just came across a nice response post to that shitty attitude so it's good to see people fighting back.
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>>82367497
god damn spidey was good
>that 3 minute back story
>saying wgpcgr without saying it
>quiping while thwiping
and most importantly
>he's a fucking kid.
excellent spider-man
>>82372977
>Seriously, Loki's whole thing on the helicarrier was trying to turn the Avengers on themselves. He had full on magic and the volatility of the Hulk to work with, but still failed. Zemo, who is literally just some man running around in a world of super heroes, did more damage than a full on Norse God.
but that makes complete sense. A human being can empathise more with other humans while a norse god would be worse. In a psycological war the ability to empathise and understand your opponents is greater than some norse god superiority complex.
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