Toonami General #6
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Tweeting info
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New Samurai Jack season
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FLCL news
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-03-24/toonami-to-co-produce-2-new-flcl-seasons/.100222
Hunter x Hunter promo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrEy5loSmVo
best
Highest point of Thriller Bark
I like to think i could make her happy and thanks Temporary Toonami General Guy
[Evil be gone.]
first for THRILLER BARQUE
Slow night, huh?
>>82160011
Maybe Bark is easier to write out than Barque
GET IT TOONAMI!
Thriller Bark huh?
HORO HORO HORO HORO
Holy fuck Perona's voice and HOROHOROHORO don't match up at all
>>82160048
every thread went to like 620 before new thread. Maths out about the same as every other week.
TIME TO DO ZOMBIE STUFF
>>82160013
>Nami in the OP
Ugh. I need two buckets. One isn't enough to fit all the vomit.
Moria dub is pretty good
>>82159851
>1. Working directly for the government, so the don't gave bounties (Smoker, AkaInu, Kizaru, Garp, CP9)
Marines have rank
Admiral > Vice Admiral > Rear Admiral > etc
CP9 have douriki
>2. Warlords that had their bounties frozen at smaller numbers and don't reflect their actual power or sphere of influence (Crocodile, Doflaingo)
He still gave Crocodile a relatively low former bounty so the readers won't be thinking it's a ridiculously huge jump for Luffy to beat a guy with a 340 million bounty.
>3. Are from areas that flat out don't use the bounty system (Enel)
Oda already said if Enel was a pirate, he'd have a bounty of 500 million. Besides that, we had Enel's priests. Ohm's trial had a 0 percent survival rate and Getadsu had a 50 percent survival rate.
Obviously, you're meant to take this as Ohm is much stronger than Gedatsu.
This is simple stuff, guys.
This arc is actually so fucking boring watching it week to week is going to be the worst
>>82160074
Should be, that's GeneralIvan.
Best girl
Dem horo horos.
12:00 DBZ Kai 67 (of 159)(Ongoing series)
>Another Time Machine! Bulma Uncovers a Mystery!
12:30 Dimension W 9 (of 12)
>Key to Adrastea
1:00 Hunter X Hunter 2 (out of 148)
>Test x of x Tests
1:30 Samurai Champaloo 17 (out of 26)
>Lullabies of the Lost (Verse 2)
2:00 Naruto Shitpuden 109 (of ∞)(Ongoing series)
>Counterattack of the Curse Mark
2:30 One Piece 343 (of ∞)(Ongoing series)
>His Name Is Moria! The Great Shadow-Seizing Pirate's Trap
3:00 Parasyte -the maxim-2 (out of 24)
>Devil in the Flesh
Week 205 of Toonami
>
FLCL SEASON 2 & 3 COMING TO TOONAMI
>
DBZ Kai: 90 more weeks
Dimension W: 2 more weeks
Hunter X Hunter: 146 more weeks
Naruto Shippuden:--
Samurai Champaloo 9 more weeks
One Piece: --
Parasyte -the maxim-: 22 more weeks
>Ratings for 4/16
12:00 Dragon Ball Z Kai 1,393,000
12:30 Dimension W 1,088,000
1:00a Hunter X Hunter 1,007,000
1:30a Samurai Champaloo 890,000
2:00a Naruto: Shippuden 810,000
2:30a One Piece 731,000
3:00a Parasyte 673,000
>>82160068
I need two buckets too.
Y'know, for all the cum.
SHOTA SHIT BUT NO LOLI SHIT, COME ON DEFAGGO, YOU KNOW WHAT TOONAMI NEEDS, NOW GET IT!
Post more best girl since we missed out last thread.
>>82160066
Wrong, threads always go well over 500 before the new one. Last week had one around 750
Isnt this just The Nightmare Before Christmas with pirates?
>>82160078
I can't help but notice how you still haven't addressed Nico Robin as a child vs Franky/Sanji.
>>82160013
Thank you temporary leader.
LEADER!
LEADER!
LEADER!
>Opens with Nami pic
Pervert!
Pervert!
Pervert!
>>82160068
>He vomits at the sight of a woman
You're so gay you've become a physical manifestation of AIDS, anon.
>>82160040
Aku soku zan
>tfw we'll be here til dawn
>>82160062
my boy Tray
>>82160088
>jerking it to the useless bitch
At least masturbate to a character who's worth a damn to the story. Have some standards.
>>82160079
Actually is boring in general, the beginning and the last episodes are the only good parts.
If this is the voice they're using for Mora, who the fuck are they going to use for Cesaer?
>>82160102
Nightmare before Christmas is on record for being one of Oda's favorite movies.
So yeah, pretty much
>>82160102
japan has a huge crush on that movie so probably
>>82160107
Or Chopper, or GOD Usopp for that matter.
>>82160082
I still wish Oda could have retroactively given her a sad backstory and made her a Straw Hat.
Have some more corrupted Ryuko
>>82160079
>cutting out the men
Die and burn.
>>82160140
So those three little monsters WERE supposed to be to Moria what Oogie Boogie's kids are to him?
>>82160136
We'll find out in another ten years.
>>82160062
Man, It's been forever since I watched the anime, but I recently read partway through the manga. It REALLY falls into power level BS quickly.
>>82160143
That's... honestly not surprising.
>>82160094
Needs a 360 view of this.
>>82160094
Time for Parasyte again...
>>82160078
I thought Crocodile had a bounty simply because they didn't know he was Mr 0 or whatever, so while being a warlord with no bounty, his other persona had the bounty.
>>82160102
Man, I liked that movie.
>>82160136
The same VA. What, you think dub's have that kind of money to different VA's?
>>82160157
that is one depressed Ryuko. reminds me of draft Kaworu.
>>82160140
>Nightmare before Christmas is on record for being one of Oda's favorite movies.
This. He nearly named Buggy "Boogie" after Oogie Boogie, until he was talked out of it by his first editor.
>>82160107
>>82160078
[spoiler[Or the fact that Ace had a bounty of 500 mil.[/spoiler]Or that Doffy and Moriah have nearly the same bounty despite the difference in strength and how many chapters apart their fights were.
well one piece is done so its time to sleep, it was fun fellow anons.
Time for Parasyte again
West coast best coast!
>>82160107
Nico Robin wasn't introduced as an 8 year old, was she? She was introduced as the number two to one of the strongest guys around, wasn't she?
And do you remember what the story was at the time? Ohara was classified. The story was that Robin sank 8 of the 10 ships in a Buster Call, and that's how she got her bounty.
You're thinking way too literal about this, dude. It's a story. Some things in the story are done just to help the reader along, especially when the writer writes the story for twelve year old boys.
Perona fucking sucks her eyes are weird and she's really annoying
find better taste in waifus
>>82160213
AYE AYE
Wow, does Parasyte just keep on going? I thought thats what HunterxHunter was replacing.
>AAAAAAAAAAAH
Did HxH just end?
>>82160200
That explains a lot.
There's an artist who does a shitload of Nightmare Before Christmas fanart, and it all looks extremely Oda-ish.
http://abasirikangoku.web.fc2.com/index.html
>>82160220
nah
>>82160206
Sleep well broksi
>>82160200
>>82160226
The faggit man decides he's going to rerun Parasyte immediately after it finishes
>>82160140
based taste
>>82160133
Wait. Are you that anon? From last week? Who went on a rant and wouldn't allow anyone to convince you about Nami and just wouldn't let it go? And the one I'm assuming made a thread on /a/ on that exact subject immediately afterward.
>>82160213
thank you for reminding me I have CNw
I am not watching parasyte 2 times in a row
>>82160186
hot damn
>>82160226
HunterxHunter replaced Parasyte's time slot. KLK ended at the same time Parasyte did, so they're rerunning Parasyte in KLK's former time slot, while running HxH in Parasyte's former time slot.
>>82160205
>That puss' barely covered pusspuss
EVERY. TIME.
>>82160144
>Or Chopper, or GOD Usopp for that matter.
Gags, basically. I mean, you can tell what's suppose to be a gag in One Piece, right?
First Nami, now Parasyte.
It's like the last hour of the block is designed to annoy the shit out of me.
>I see no need for names.
That's because you're a fucking moron, Migi. Shit the fuck up.
>>82160218
>if I just ignore all the things that contradict my explanation it makes perfect sense!
Yeah no. By your own reasoning an 8 year old girl's power level was several times that of Arlong and Franky and Sanji as of Thriller Bark. You don't get to just arbitrarily apply your own rules to the system and claim it's still a system.
>>82160226
Oh wait, never mind they're restarting it. Surely there's a better anime that can be dubbed. If they want a filler, why not Durarara?
how does the whole naming migi thing translate in the sub?
>>82160186
Much appriciated
>>82160094
For such a long buildup that explosion payoff is a little lacking.
I feel that way of a lot of the supers in this game actually.
>>82160220
But her eyes are the most cute thing of her.
>>82160180
That's what Oda says in his Q and A. But not in the main story, which is what we're talking about. Literary devices.
It's pretty hard trying to tell the smut from non-smut on my phone. Here's hoping I didn't post the former.
>>82160261
wait what
can you explain this
>>82160279
Their license for it ran out. They still have the rights to Parasyte so it's free for them to rerun it in the graveyard slot.
Why does shinichi's VA give such a shit now but seems so awful near the end?
MY NAME IS SHINICHI IZUMI
>>82160078
>He still gave Crocodile a relatively low former bounty so the readers won't be thinking it's a ridiculously huge jump for Luffy to beat a guy with a 340 million bounty.
Robin was 79 mil and Crocodile at 80 mil in the same arc, further in a previous arc two giants worth 100 mil each were taken down by Croc's henchmen. Right now Moria is a 320 mil and Doflamingo who is several arcs away is was only at 340 mil, not much of a jump there.
>Oda already said if Enel was a pirate, he'd have a bounty of 500 million. Besides that, we had Enel's priests. Ohm's trial had a 0 percent survival rate and Getadsu had a 50 percent survival rate.
Because Enel with Raigou can destroy the population of entire islands like his homeland Birka. Weaklings like the Caribou get high bounties just because of all the massacre of innocents they commit, but in no way does it suggest Enel can defeat every pirate who Luffy has fought until now because of his significantly higher fictional bounty.
Did they censored shiniji penis arm?
>>82160319
Really? I thought he starts sounding better toward the end.
>>82160186
fug
>>82160280
Exactly the same only it makes more sense because he's speaking Japanese?
>>82160258
I just don't understand why anyone likes or even so much as tolerates that useless cunt.
>HURP I CAN TELL WHEN IT'S GONNA RAIN! MAH EXISTENCE IS TOTALLY JUSTIFIED
:^)
Fucking hate this bitch, and I hate her retard fans.
>>82159841
>ashamed of an Alucard boner
>erection because of the King of Vampires
i don't see anything wrong with that
>>82160205
A bright spot in that pile of mediocrity.
Then of course, she's not!Ryoko, and we get stuck with her for the rest. Mostly.
>>82160319
because muh parasytes
>>82160335
yes
What a fucking pussy I'm glad he becomes an alpha later on
>>82160277
>Yeah no. By your own reasoning an 8 year old girl's power level was several times that of Arlong and Franky and Sanji as of Thriller Bark. You don't get to just arbitrarily apply your own rules to the system and claim it's still a system.
Yeah, I do, because that's how it's used in the context of the story. To illustrate threat level. Robin was suppose to be super powerful. So he gave her a high bounty when he introduced her.
Whatever reasoning comes 300 chapters after that introduction is arbitrary. Again, too literal. Think about who he's writing the fucking story for. There's a reason most shonen manga have powerlevels. Boys go crazy for them.
>>82160343
Yeah we get it you're an autist who don't even read One Piece.
Man, pussy Shinichi was like Shinji tier.
glasses girl is back
>>82160361
>alpha
What are you talking about? He's STILL a pussy throughout the entire show.
>>82160253
>>82160267
Sorry, thanks for the clarification.
>>82160335
That was actually in the anime?
>>82160361
yeah, he got Alpha, but he never got gains like this
>>82160367
>Oda confirmed Time Skip Ussopp is as strong as pre-skip Zorro
So how fucking strong are Nami and Nico if Ussopp will always be the weakest Strawberry?
>>82160382
at least Shinji had his reasons.
>>82160279
Because for one they need to have the license for it again. For two they are going to try and get some more use out of their current license for Parasyte before abandoning it.
It's why DeMarco ended up showing AoT 3 times in a row not counting marathons. The higher price/priority the license the more it gets its run on the network until it becomes pure ratings poison.
>>82160344
It's even worse when she has Crispin Freeman's voice though..
>>82160343
That's cool. You're not gonna like what everyone else likes and that's ok. People just have different taste and priorities than you.
>>82160373
>"read the manga" shit again
Oh fuck you and that garbage. What, is Nami the Queen Bitch of the Seas in the manga? Because if not, she's still a useless piece of shit, and she always will be.
They're totally a bioweapon.
They instinctively disguise themselves as their host species, and instinctively seek and consume more of the host form.
They'll either succeed, then slowly die off because they don't reproduce of their own accord.
Or they'll fail, while potentially sowing chaos and confusion among the target populace.
>>82160417
I approve.
>>82160417
>dem thighs/hips
BASED
who thows out a half eaten burger?
>>82160367
>that's how it's used in the context of the story
Except it is, because bounties aren't power levels. They're just gauges of threat. For fighter characters you can use them as power levels sure, but only in the context of how much the WG is aware of their strength, and they're capable of overestimating people as much as they are underestimating.
Nico Robin's bounty had nothing to do with her fighting strength. Her bounty was almost equal to Crocodile's despite the vast gulf in their fighting abilities even in the arc she was introduced.
>>82160433
>Nami the Queen Bitch of the Seas in the manga?
Of the Sky actually.
>>82160413
>It's even worse when she has Crispin Freeman's voice though
That's bullshit and you know it. Embrace the weird boner, tripfag.
>>82160433
>useless
Says you.
>>82160434
>then slowly die off because they don't reproduce of their own accord.
Was it ever said in the manga how exactly they reproduce and travel through space?are they life fibres
>>82160433
>Sailing without a navigator
>possible
Here's you're (you), senpai.
>>82160433
No you're just some asshole raging about a story he doesn't even read. You probably don't even watch the anime except in bits and pieces when it's on Toonami. It's pretty apparent you know almost nothing about One Piece and are just bitching for the sake of it.
>>82160411
Cowardice is not a reason.
>>82160413
>Ctarlctarl stripper
>Means they're not -all- insane military lifers.
>Still don't live in the Towards Star universe. The potential for a ctarlctarl gf, or at least hooker, is meaningless.
>>82160327
>Robin was 79 mil and Crocodile at 81 mil in the same arc
And they were both meant to look like huge threats at the time. Robin made the strongest guy in Alabasta look like nothing.
> further in a previous arc two giants worth 100 mil each were taken down by Croc's henchmen.
Yes, but they were beaten by trickery and were never meant to be threats to anyone but each other.
>Right now Moria is a 320 mil
Yes, and Luffy is 300 million. So it works. He's a big threat, but based on numbers, not an unbeatable one.
The gap between Croc's 81 million and Luffy's 30 million was bigger, which is why Luffy had to fight him 3 times and with everything he had.
>
Because Enel with Raigou can destroy the population of entire islands like his homeland Birka. Weaklings like the Caribou get high bounties just because of all the massacre of innocents they commit, but in no way does it suggest Enel can defeat every pirate who Luffy has fought until now because of his significantly higher fictional bounty.
Oda said that Logias on their own a tricky to beat, especially a really strong one like Enel's.
Caribou was far from weak. It was more like he wasn't strong enough.
>>82160433
>caring this much about a fictional character
Calm your autism man
>>82160435
>>82160440
moms do it better
>>82160333
pls
>>82160410
>Oda confirmed Time Skip Ussopp is as strong as pre-skip Zorro
You're blatantly ignoring what I'm saying, which shows you're not really interested in having a discussion about this.
>>82160473
if you say so.
>>82160308
Exactly! They could run Durarara for forever! If they want a comfy show they could try and license The Eccentric Family.
>>82160507
DELET DIS
>>82160469
Haven't read it. In the show, only two of them become even mildly interested in their host organism's workings.
Or them, one of those is only because he's stuck 100% of the time with a host-organism he can't outright kill.
>>82160499
no, my question isn't in retort to you. It's a separate question I choose to link to the convo.
>>82160433
>revieves answer
>Oh fuck you and that garbage
You have arms, you have eyes. Read loser.
>>82160450
>For fighter characters you can use them as power levels sure, but only in the context of how much the WG is aware of their strength, and they're capable of overestimating people as much as they are underestimating.
That much is obvious and I never said otherwise.
When Blackbeard was introduced, he had no bounty. He was a nobody. Not even 15 million. Because we weren't meant to know how strong he was at the time. We weren't meant to know just how powerful he would become, which would eventually be FINAL BOSS tier.
>>82160343
>>HURP I CAN TELL WHEN IT'S GONNA RAIN! MAH EXISTENCE IS TOTALLY JUSTIFIED
>This nigga don't even know the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
They should have reviewed Stardew Valley.
at&tfu~
>>82160348
I guess you can say Ryoko in any form is desirable, nekomimi or not.
GXP just made it a feature, a damn good one at that.
>>82160460
I have had my fair share of weird boners, but still I hesitate.
>>82160531
What the hell is going on in that image?
>>82160478
No mention of Ace's 500 million bounty or the tiny difference in Doflamingo's and Moria's bounty despite the large difference in strength. And Chinjao's bounty was also 500 mil despite being weaker than Doflamingo. Maybe the writer of this story actually takes more into consideration than "how strong do I want this character to look at this exact moment".
>>82160527
Nami is stronger than Usopp and Robin is waaaaay strong than Usopp.
Robin never loses. She almost never struggles to beat anyone.
>>82160567
What's wrong, don't like strong girls with the voice of a vampiric tyrant?
Perhaps this outfit is more pleasing.
>>82160542
>I never said otherwise
You just fucking typed a huge post defending Robin's bounty as an accurate power level when her bounty was never indicative of her strength, not even relative to when she was introduced in the story. Unless you think she was stronger than Luffy and almost equal to Crocodile.
Robin's not a fighter, her bounty has no bearing whatsoever on her abilities to fight. Hell Chopper is more of a fighter than she is and his bounty is a running gag.
>>82160279
Because no action and was an ASA bomb
>>82160462
No, says basic narrative convention.
>>82160470
Why does the person who's job it is to say "Go that way." have to be so useless in combat?
Also, it ain't like navigation is hard. Read a map, look up to see if it will rain. If literally all but one person on the ship is too stupid to do that, then they deserve to fail.
>>82160548
>>82160473
>>82160382
Isn't avatarfaggotry a banable offense?
>>82160469
There is some suggestion that they are like the Jewels from FF7 or Captain Planet. New, hasty additions to the ecosystem to try and compensate for humans being fucking broken.
>>82160567
Except Ryoko Balta was only named after the real deal...
She really didn't have any of the charm of the original. Which, is part of why it kinda sucked that she spent the rest of the series as Balta rather than Erma.
>>82160589
you know, I never really noticed that before. Sure she has bruises, scuffs, and even bleeds but it still never looks like she puts any effort into it. Hmm.
>>82160577
>Maybe the writer of this story actually takes more into consideration than "how strong do I want this character to look at this exact moment".
Basically. Chinjao was introduced as one of the veteran Grandpa pirates from Roger and Garp's era, but he obviously can't have had a 200 million bounty if he fought those guys.
Oda had background characters say multiple times "He's gotten weaker in his old age"
>>82160615
So's b& evasion. Watch yourself.
>>82160508
Oh man, is that the Tanuki family one from a couple of years ago? That was equal parts awesome and cute.
>>82160611
>Also, it ain't like navigation is hard. Read a map, look up to see if it will rain. If literally all but one person on the ship is too stupid to do that, then they deserve to fail.
>Marco Polo, Christopher Columbus, and other sailor explorers didn't have a dedicated navigator
Just admit you don't know shit about seafaring.
>>82160460
well, picking "youngest" Alucard is more pedo than weird
If Migi had taken this deal he might have eventually been a match for Gotou.
>>82160628
Meanwhile, Zoro always loses half his blood.
CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THE EAST/WEST THING
>>82160659
If he had taken the deal, he and Gotou would never have had reason to fight.
>>82160622
>parasytes are captain planet
sure that works
>>82160611
Yeah we get it you don't read or watch One Piece and have no clue what you're talking about.
Why are people responding to this idiot seriously still?
>>82160673
The continent of North America has two coasts, one to the east, and one to the west.
>>82160659
Nah, that other parasyte was a dumbass chump. He'shave gotten Migi killed doing something stupid.
WHO WOULD DO SUCH A THING
Did shinnycheese ever actually tell morono that his momma died?
>>82160611
No, says baseless bullshitters like you.
>>82160622
>women in reasonable armor
>>82160673
There are two feeds for Cartoon Network, one goes to the east coast of America the other to the west coast of America. These two coasts are in separate time zones that are 3 hours apart, so the western feed is 3 hours behind the eastern one.
Oh yeah. She was always kinda impressed by him...
Save that pussy Shinichi.
>>82160673
Timezones man, did you not get that?
>abusing cats
fug
>>82160698
Obviously Migi would head the union.
>>82160531
"Read the manga" is not an answer. You morons have thus far failed to explain why Nami has any goddamned right to be in that ship.
>>82160650
I don't have to know anything about seafaring to know that figuring out where to go is something anyone with half a working brain cell can do. Following a compass is not a skill.
>>82160652
Yes, and?
>>82160717
anybody here in the west timzone?
>>82160475
To be fair Aisha had the most evolution in character design before she was finalized. Because of this Ctarl-ctarls may have not really been that much focused on since the designs took so long to go through.
This picture is actually one of the earliest character designs for Aisha.
>>82160627
Also true. I just wish they kept her Erma form around for longer if only to focus on more art.
>>82160673
ITS NOT THE EAST OR THE WEST SIDE
>>82160682
Bait is a powerful thing.
>>82160722
>>82160717
Yes, but are they both not broadcast in realtime? Someone said something about watching parasyte twice in a row
>>82160727
>You morons have thus far failed to explain why Nami has any goddamned right to be in that ship.
How about: because Luffy invited her.
Faggot.
>people were baited into this Nami argument AGAIN
>>82160599
>You just fucking typed a huge post defending Robin's bounty as an accurate power level when her bounty was never indicative of her strength, not even relative to when she was introduced in the story.
Wasn't it? She was the number two of Baroque Works. Second only to the main villain. No one could touch her at the time.
>Unless you think she was stronger than Luffy and almost equal to Crocodile.
But Luffy beat Crocodile.
Besides, Robin couldn't beat Crocodile because he's logia and she couldn't beat Luffy because he's rubber.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1lG1zL1mnU
G'night homies.
Night
>>82160724
night
G'nite Classy Recap Anon
G'nite StoneCold.gif Bro
G'nite ZechsSalute.jpg
G'nite Harold
>>82160744
are you slow anon?
>>82160740
NO IT'S NOT
Night friends
Night
LATER
Again, another pretty good week. Maybe this week I'll start getting my life in order and make some big bucks. As always this is the highlight of my week. Watching anime with all of you. I love you all, please stay safe and we'll get together again next week, ok? Good fight, Good night, Later.
Alright I'm getting the hell out of here
HxH is starting to grow on me....slowly
Heres hoping it gets better as time goes on
See you guys next Saturday
Stay safe
Stay gold
Just like most Samurai Champloo side characters, tonight's Toonami has met it's end. It's somewhat odd, in that we recently had a schedule change, but it already feels like we've settled into the schedule! It could just be me, but I've already been able to
From Time Trickery, Ryoma finds the Big O Jackpot, Riddle me This Huntsman!, and Life and death in the way of the Samurai, to whatever happened on Naruto, The Appearance of the Apparition Princess Perona, and Migi with the handy "handy", it's been a great night!
Life is just a party, and parties aren't meant to last. But, just like a Little Red Corvette, that doesn't mean you need to run it right into the ground! Whether you're asking for a Kiss from you Darling Nikki or finding out what it sounds like When Doves cry, there too many experiences to be had to let it slip away! So, while we all still can, at least for one last time ladies and gentlemen, let us party like it's 1999. Until next time, my friends...
Later.
>>82160727
isnt using a sextant kinda complicated
>>82160615
i miss spacenoid leader char
>>82160727
>boobs
>navigator
>literally 1 other grill on the ship
>manage ship funds
>boobs
>>82160744
No, because they follow TV schedules. Shows have to air at a specific time, Toonami starts at midnight and it doesn't become midnight on the west coast until it's 3 AM on the east coast.
>>82160747
>people don't know how to use the report and filter button
>>82160761
sleep tite hellwan
Have a goodnight Toonamibros, and remember to sing a song for the Toonami Man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e056R97svz8
night
Made it through another week.
Have fun, everyone, and see you all next week.
Later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DNdXNHZO6w
i must go now my planet needs me
>>82160731
girl on girl doesn't count, because there's no such thing as a lesbian pedo
>>82160771
i knew you could do it pal
>>82160761
Sleep tite Hellwan
>>82160768
Sleep tight, pupper
>>82160770
Sleep snug, smug
Goodnight Waifuposters
Goodnight fellow ragyofag
Goodnightsenpai
I've exhausted my Waifu supply and must seek more,later.
>>82160727
>I don't have to know anything about seafaring to know that figuring out where to go is something anyone with half a working brain cell can do. Following a compass is not a skill.
>I know literally nothing about sailing
>>82160773
ITS NOT THE NORTH OR THE SOUTH SIDE
>>82160777
will we ever see him again?
>>82160652
I don't remember hellsing being in hellsing at all, damn
Later.
night everybody.
>>82160770
sleep snug, smug.
Come, cheer up, my lads, 'tis to glory we steer,
To add something more to this wonderful year;
To honour we call you, as freemen not slaves,
For who are so free as the sons of the waves?
Heart of Oak are our ships,
Jolly Tars are our men,
We always are ready: Steady, boys, Steady!
We'll fight and we'll conquer again and again.
Later all see you suckers next week.
>>82160754
It's like, you contradict yourself and agree with me bounties =/= power levels, but I know you're gonna turn around and insist they are and act like you somehow proved your point even as you disproved it by agreeing with me here.
>>82160768
good night pupper
good night smugger
good night beerstin
good night recap
good night all the anons
>>82160812
ITS THE DARKSIDE
don't forget to fap before going to bed.
>>82160744
said person did not want to watch parasyte twice.
so he changed his east coast feed to west coast
the end
Goodnight toonami general, keep fappin and feelin all week long!
>>82160778
Goodnight you glorious purple bastard.
>>82160746
>Luffy
>capable of making good decisions
Heh.
>>82160747
We wouldn't need to have this conversation all the time if someone would just explain why the fuck Nami has to be a such a useless bitch. Yeah, she's the navigator, I get it. Why can't someone who can actually contribute to the action do that? Wouldn't that make more sense?
>>82160768
sleep tight, pupper
>>82160768
Sleep tight, pupper.
>>82160770
Sleep snug, smug.
>>82160778
Night!
dont forget to fap
night tg. keep kill la kill close to your heart
>>82160727
>>HURPDEEDURR BEING A SKILLED NAVIGATOR AND AN INNATE INTUITION ABOUT THE WEATHER IS FUCKING USELESS ON THE MOST DANGEROUS SEE IN THE WORLD
Most of Nami's purpose comes form the fact that the rest of our main cast are one-trick ponies just like her. The point is that the are a Pirate Crew and with THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP they can do more than they could ever do alone.
Its Shounen, stop overthinking it.
>>82160836
YOU ARE CORRECT
Mine eyes have seen the glory
Of the desu of the board
She is spamming out the desu
Where the maidens of wrath are stored
She has loosed the fateful desu
Of her terrible desu sword
Desu is marching on
I have seen her in the replies
Of a hundred thousand breads
They have builded her a garden
Laced with ribbons and with threads
I can tell apart her visage
From those two eyes, green and red!
Desu is marching on
I have read a fiery desu
Writ in polished rows of jade
For all who would condemn her
Of Suiseiseki, be afraid!
Let our heros, Desu Legion
Come swiftly to her aid!
Since desu is marching on
Glory, glory, to DESU! Glory, glory, to DESU!
Glory, glory, to DESU! Desu is marching on!
She has sounded forth the desu
That shall never call retreat
She is sifting out the dreams of men
Before her desu-seat
Oh, be swift, my heart
To march for her, be jubilant, my feet!
Our Desu is marching on
Glory, glory, to DESU! Glory, glory, to DESU!
Glory, glory, to DESU! Desu is marching on!
In the beauty of sakuras
Desu was born across the sea
With a spirit in her bosom
That transfixes you and me
As she tended to the soul trees
Let us keep our boards strong and free!
While Desu is marching on
Glory, glory, to DESU! Glory, glory, to DESU!
Glory, glory, to DESU! Desu is marching on!
>>82160739
hm, neat,
Reminds me of a few other characters, though none near the personality she ended up with. Can't quite place names to the familiar feelings though.
LATER
boring saturday...
not even the opiates helped
MY NAME IS CLEVELAND BROWN
>>82160727
>I don't know about seafaring but let me tell you about it!
>>82160788
Right, so when I watch toonami in cali, it starts at 9:00 and ends at 12:30
the fuck is going on
>>82160833
No, you're just an idiot with no reading comprehension. Which is fine, I guess. It's just a cartoon. Not like it matters much.
Another week down.
See ya'll next week. Until then, good night and good hunting.
>have both CN East and West
I know what I'm falling asleep to tonight
goodnight boys
See You Space Samurai
don't forget to dream about your waifus
>>82160808
Lateranon-kun, sweet Disco-MILF dreams.
>>82160778
Goodnight Sweet Prince
Remember that Paisley Park is in your heart.
>>82160770
sleep snug, smug
>>82160765
Sometimes I feel like you were cryogenically frozen in 2007 at the age of 15.
>>82160816
I think he's hardly shown. As far as I'm aware he serves as the reason why Alucard can respect certain humans since Hellsing and his bros managed to beat Alucard without any special powers or weapons. Though, I only watched the OVAs
>>82160739
I like the hair, but she looks too brainy to be the wacky comic relief character.
>>82160803
>because there's no such thing as a lesbian pedo
Man, would I like to vigorously refute that. But I better not.
>>82160715
Don't like it? Watch Queens Blade.
time for bed
alone
again
>>82160787
"Boobs" is not an acceptable reason to be in the main cast. If a character has nothing of substance to offer, they should not exist because they are superfluous.
>>82160810
You act like that matters. What does Nami do besides point at a direction and take up valuable space?
>>82160914
Tomoko on Toonami when?
>>82160914
I wish to bathe her.
>>82160597
More like I just have a hard time getting a boner when I hear a manly as fuck voice come out of a girl. This coming from someone who doesn't mind traps mind you.
Not saying I could not get used to it over time, but it would be an adjustment for sure.
>>82160872
Seriously its kinda surprising how much of a change her character designs had before they stuck to something.
>>82160761
>>82160768
>>82160770
night puppers
night smug anime girl
night wrestler guy
night sleepy hellwan
>>82160778
night recap guy
>>82160924
Lift and seperate.
The better reasons were between the boobs.
>If you ask me, Prince spent his final moments just like tonight's audience!
>Oh really, how's that?
>One Nite Alone!
DOHOHOHOHO!
>>82160896
You are right up there with that anti-Nami fag.
>>82160899
Is your West channel HD? Mine isn't :/
>>82160768
Sleep_tight_pupper
Good night Tech priest, i you are somewhere out there...
Later /TG/.
goodnite tg
>>82160953
I don't know about his, but mine isn't :(
>>82160940
>Twintails
>Vash glasses
>And some sort of magical-girlish stick.
Closer to what she ended up with.
Feel like the shoulder cape was used at one point though.
>>82160948
Too soon, guys.
>>82160949
I'm sure it must seem that way to someone like you.
>I don't agree with this, he must be aTROLL
>>82160893
No, Toonami airs at midnight wherever your midnight is. If you live on the east coast, you can tune in to the west coast stream right now and watch Toonami again since it's just turning midnight on the west coast
Goodnight TG!!!
>>82160912
I am sure that was the intent at some point. But over time the idea shifted.
You could say she looked like an RPG character in her early designs.
>>82160898
Night broski
![lost_at_sea_by_cit_cat_kate-d73ey6c[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PmPtZSw.jpg "lost at sea by cit cat kate-d73ey6c[1]")
>>82160924
>You act like that matters.
Prove that it doesn't.
>>82160905
Fuck no. I wouldn't wish that fate on my worst enemies. Death would be more merciful.
>>82160985
>3:35
>>82160985
Not true, I'm in san francisco watching cleveland show right now
>>82160924
>"Navigation doesn't matter"
You are so fucking retarded, nigger.
>>82160861
You hurt yourself stretching there?
There is no reason whatsoever (aside from bad writing, that is) why the crew is made up of one-trick ponies. It's much more prudent to give each character a variety of skills. Introducing a truckload of new characters just because everybody is capable of doing only one job is sloppy and causes clutter. With all these people taking up space, how are we supposed to have any time to get invested in them? The fact is, we can't.
>>82160092
I can't help but feel like I know her.
>>82160993
Not heading out just yet.
Concept art is always interesting stuff.
>>82160757
>>82160761
>>82160766
>>82160768 Sleep tight, pupper
>>82160770 Sleep snug, smug
>>82160774
>>82160775
>>82160776
>>82160777 Looks like it just starts slow.
>>82160778 Later CR Bro. Take care in the Purple Rain.
>>82160793
>>82160794
>>82160795
>>82160796
>>82160798
>>82160799 Godspeed.
>>82160806
>>82160808
>>82160823
>>82160824
>>82160827
>>82160831
>>82160835 Later bro.
>>82160838 Always do.
>>82160841 Fap on.
>>82160846
>>82160852
>>82160855
>>82160856
>>82160870 Desu
>>82160877
>>82160898
>>82160900 Hello Nurse
>>82160904 Later Dosh
>>82160914
>>82160943 Later Tentacle Bro
>>82160948 Damn thats cold.
>>82160957
>>82160958
>>82160988
Goodnight Toonami General
Stay Gold.
And on the morning of my birthday I get to switch over to encore to watch Predator.
![[] Tokinohimtsu Idolmaster Shimamura_Uzuki.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/b8EUznO.jpg "[] Tokinohimtsu Idolmaster Shimamura Uzuki")
>>82160983
I look forward to next week's stupid one piece argument. What's it gonna be, a third guy saying Oda never actually plans any of his Chekhov's Gun moments? You never know what nonsense people are gonna come up with next.
I rather watch thriller bark than walking dead, despite the fact i hate horror.
>>82160778
Good night you Partyman.
LATER
>>82161031
Happy birthday m8
>>82160980
Dusters, man. Outlaw Star had a lot of people wearing dusters and duster-like coats.
>>82161029
This would be the final one right here.
>>82160833
Bounties are, like another anon said, meant to show how strong a character is at that moment.
They're not exact calculated numbers done with scouters, they're just meant to give the reader an idea of what is going to go down in a face off.
Robin had a high bounty at her intro, she was meant to me strong. The story of how she got it which comes later on is irrelevant to what it was suppose to show at the time.
This is is simple stuff, and you're a petulant child. Please, don't talk to me, my son, or Toonami general ever again.
>we could have had a nice thread for the next day or so
>instead people took the exact same Nami argument bait from last week
>>82161004
Try taking any character, and replace them in the narrative with an object. Say, a magic compass, or in the case, the ship itself, which is alive and can probably pilot itself. Nami can easily be replaced, so why is she even here?
>>82161066
>meant to show how strong a character is at that moment
There's already been plenty of counter examples to this assertion posted in this very thread.
>>82160778
Goodnight, you clever, Classy Recap Anon, you. Have a based week and take care of yourself.Fug. I wasn't expecting that. ;_;
>>82160768
Sleep smug, pup.
>>82160770
Sleep tight, smugger!
>>82160794
>>82160808
>>82160900
>>82160948
That's harsh.I chuckled after a while, but still.
>>82161031
And goodnight to you, deligent Stone Cold Anon!
>>82161087
Luffy could be replaced by John Cena, why is he even here?
>>82161014
anon, i know you have better things than reply to him, whether he's baiting or serious
>>82160870
how do you pronounce desu?
Why the fuck did they choose Parasyte for the rerun? I love the suspense from the first run, but without that it's such a bore with no rewatchability
>>82161060
I don't know what it is about those little hair rings.
I now feel like the final design lost something with their removal.
>>82160062
I want Shaman King on Toonami man, such a nice relatively short shonen.
>>82160167
I don't get it. Why sign up for a shonen if you don't wanna deal with power level BS in the first place?
>>82160013
It's hilarious seeing as how far Naruto and One Piece anime has fallen in the schedule. I remember back in the day that the Bleach anime was the reigning "King of Adult Swim Anime" between 2006 to 2014. It always was in the forefront and the bread and butter to Adult Swim anime.
Just look at the picture yourself and see.
>>82161104
>>82161031Fuck, hit send before I could say happy birthday too. Congrats, Stone Cold Anon!
>>82161124
like dandy and cowboy bebop?
sounds like a personal problem.
>>82161096
>There's already been plenty of counter examples to this assertion posted in this very thread.
Not really. Feel free to elaborate on them if you want. I don't think you're smart enough to do that though. But I know that's not going to stop you, is it sport?
>>82161031
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3a5pFbpjSY
>>82161015
>With all these people taking up space, how are we supposed to have any time to get invested in them? The fact is, we can't.
Its 9 fucking people. The manga has been going on for almost 20 years, the anime for 15. How much time do you need?
>>82160937
>unwashed Tomoko
that's half her appeal!
>>82161124
Well, it was a popular show and they still have the license for it. So, it makes sense for them to run it again
>>82161120
Formally, it's pronouced 'deh-su'. But most people drop the 'su' so it sounds more like 'dess'.
>>82161106
John Cena is not an object, you fucking retard. And you can't replace Luffy because he actually contribute to the story by defeating the main villain of each arc. You could replace Nami with a floating arrow that points to the next town.
>>82160013
Man, why did Oda chicken out of making Vivi delicious brown?
>>82160893
I'm guessing you have satellite? When I had DirectTV I could watch the east coast broadcast.
>>82161129
Demarco has even admitted its because of ratings
>long running shonen is proven to slowly degrade as a ratings draw long before its final episode
>Bleach being a dub premiere somewhat allowed it to avoid this issue
>even the big hitter DBZ has had a steep drop off from Family Guy the past few months
>LEL LETS PUT HXH ON AND NOT LEARN FROM OUR PAST MISTAKES
>>82160940
>>82160993
>>82161060
Man, it's freaks me out she went from looking like an Oh! My Goddess character, to a magical girl, to the catgirl we all love. I kind of would have liked to see the mid-point in action.
>>82161166
>popular
Not a valid argument when AgK was more popular and they still have the license
>>82161172
>John Cena is not an object, you fucking retard. And you can't replace Luffy because he actually contribute to the story by defeating the main villain of each arc
The principle still stands, he's there simply to WINLOL, just like John Cena.
If you wanna be that anal about it, replace Sanji with a stove, or Usopp with literally anything, or Robin with a cloning machine for Luffy, or Chopper by a videogame medikit
>>82161046
The Nami bait has worked 2 weeks in a row. A third wouldn't surprise me.
>>82161154
>implying he's read/watched it
I like the Toonami Generals.
The Toonami Ratings threads are pure fucking cancer though
>>82161154
However much time they need to stop being one-note caricatures, and develop some real personalities. Which at this point, is shaping up to be sometime around the heat death of the universe.
And frankly, nine is already straining the narrative focus wire thin.
>>82161046
You know it'll just be the same shitposting. They never change it up.
>>82161141
Both of those are more episodic and don't rely on suspense
That said, I wouldn't choose either since both are overaired
>>82161217
THAT'S IT! That's what I was trying to recall.
Yeah, that original design wouldn't look out of place knocking around with Urd, Skuld and Belldandy.Skuld a best. But all three are great.
>>82161015
> The fact is, we can't.
This is literal autism.
>>82161240
They are identical, the only difference here is there is 3 hours of vaguely on topic live reactions
>>82161031
Happy Birthday,mang.
>>82161224
>The principle still stands, he's there simply to WINLOL, just like John Cena.
Well, yeah, he's the protagonist. That's kind what protagonists do.
>If you wanna be that anal about it, replace Sanji with a stove, or Usopp with literally anything, or Robin with a cloning machine for Luffy, or Chopper by a videogame medikit
Except all of them actually do stuff beyond their designated role on the ship. The other characters participate in fights on a regular basis, and don't fucking suck at it.
>>82161286
Unfunny shitposting about Demarco is pretty bad. There isn't much of that here.
>>82160013
Jesus fucking Christ, start using neutral Toonami images for the OP so people don't get their autism tripped. 2 weeks now that this has happened
>>82161127
Because it makes fights boring and un-creative? It's just people saying "I'm stronger than you so I win". Comparatively I love it when characters of similar strength defeat one another through talent, skill or just powering through with willpower or something.
>>82161314
I saw plenty of it in the first thread
>>82161314
Alright Demarco, off to bed now. The shitposting stops when you start making better decisions for the block
>>82161126
I guess perhaps it was "too busy" of a design. It might have been possible to do in Manga but in anime it probably would have been more difficult to animate (especially in certain circumstances such as her ears twitching/moving).
It is interesting though, out of all the characters in Outlaw Star she had the most redesigns out of all the characters. Even Gene and Melfina had less redesigns done to them given the work designs shown. Aisha was just uncertain for awhile.
>>82161217
I guess considering that in the universe where science and magic both exist the creator was not sure if he wanted Aisha to be a magic user/alien or some kind of warrior alien.
Ultimately he chose warrior spirit with comedy bits.
>Ctarl-Ctarls could have been a race of magic using cat aliens.
>>82161198
But Bleach still had such a huge following on Toonami. It completely finished it's 366 episode run. No Toonami or Anime show that has run longer than 52 episodes has EVER done that. Especially without skipping an entire episode either.
Bleach was a huge King of Adult Swim Anime due to the quality. It was like Pokemon to a Saturday Morning. We all watched Saturday Morning Cartoons BECAUSE of Pokemon. We watched Saturday Night anime BECAUSE of Bleach.
It's clear how much that show meant to people and how much people could not give a shit about Naruto Shitpudden or One Piece anime. It didn't have the same effect as it's predecessor.
>>82161129
Boy, I miss this schedule. I don't even know what to do after 3:30 on Saturdays anymore. Going to bed isn't really an option since I'm never tired enough, so I don't know what to do.
>>82161313
>Well, yeah, he's the protagonist. That's kind what protagonists do.
He can be easily replaced, which is the same argument you bitched about for Nami.
>>82161313
>Except all of them actually do stuff beyond their designated role on the ship.
This is wrong.
>The other characters participate in fights on a regular basis And don't fucking suck at it
That's hilarious, anon. Shinji stops mattering, Zoro is as useless as he is useful, Robin is a deus ex machina that never gets used, Usopp is literally nothing.
>>82161314
air watamote and we'll stop
>>82161343
Yeah, just like that. It makes the threads pure trash.
>>82161349
Maybe you missed the part where I said it was a dub premier. That was the draw. HxH will only have that draw for about half a year, the other 3 are long past that point.
Also, ASA Bleach wasn't doing too hot. It is confirmed that without Toonami bumping the ratings, it would have been pulled
>>82161329
Power levels aren't that simple though, at least not in Shaman King as far as I remember.
>>82161172
Just because you don't see everything that Nami does, doesn't mean that she's useless. The position of navigator is traditionally that of the second mate, which is to say the third in command of the vessel. They are responsible for the planning of the entire passage, the acquisition and interpretation of nautical charts, the avoidance of maritime hazards, and such miscellaneous duties. We don't see those duties much in the show simply because they're usually not plot-relevant, but she's not a compass; they already have that (the log pose).
>>82161287
That image looked horribly lewd at first.
>>82161365
>Shinji
And like that, you lost the argument.
>>82161392
Then spend less time in the thread and more time fixing Toonami, faggit
>>82161365
>He can be easily replaced, which is the same argument you bitched about for Nami.
By an OBJECT, not another character. I know it's hard for you One Piece-fags to pay attention, but do try for once.
>That's hilarious, anon. Shinji stops mattering, Zoro is as useless as he is useful, Robin is a deus ex machina that never gets used, Usopp is literally nothing.
That's just shonen bullshit where only the main character is allowed to accomplish anything of value. Even then, the other members of the cheer squad still do more than Nami. They do more than standing and pointing.
>>82161329
>It's just people saying "I'm stronger than you so I win".
That's almost never the case in One Piece though, because people usually just fight people on their own level.
Luffy fights the boss and Zoro fights the number two, and so on.
The only thing I can actually think of where it's actually a problem is Dragonball Z itself.
>>82161129
Holy fuck what an awful lineup
>Bleach ends
>Toonami is cut shortly after
It was keeping us alive more than we knew
>>82161456
Is this even the same guy, or just another really bored guy taking up the mantle?
>>82161399
But it still was part of the forefront. It would have been pushed backwards like Naruto and One Piece over the years if people didn't care about Bleach.
Even if the ratings were slightly going down, the anime still remained very persistent in not only the minds of fans but Adult Swim staff as well.
>>82161459
Fucking this. Bleach basically kept things going and the moment the anime ended, so did the long line up.
>>82161346
Perhaps. Can't find that one recentish brown girl with the hair ring, or any of Underwater Ray Romano's doggies.
Dunno, I just kinda like the look.
Ah well, she did end up with that long pony tail.
Cats seem to end up as physical types, unless expressly following the nekomata deal.
Can't recall any magic catgirls off the top of my head. Maybe those two toehoes...
>>82161413
>muh typos
The surest sign that the opposition has no further objections and is reaching for anything to hold on to.
>>82161456
>By an OBJECT, not another character. I know it's hard for you One Piece-fags to pay attention, but do try for once.
Ok, replace him with the magical box of WINLOL. Same difference.
>>82161456
>That's just shonen bullshit where only the main character is allowed to accomplish anything of value.
Then that means they don't matter, right? So they're all equally worthless.
> Even then, the other members of the cheer squad still do more than Nami. They do more than standing and pointing.
Nope. Franky maybe, and I honestly don't know about Brooke, but once you're useless like the others are, you're flat-out useless. No degrees of uselessness.
>>82161268
I prefer Urd myself, but I can't fault you for your choices.
>>82161346
Mahou Shoujo Aisha spinoff when?!
... Don't answer that. I already know.
>>82161407
>NAVIGATION IS SOOOOOOO IMPORTANT HOLY SHIT!!! THEY'D NEVER GET ANYWHERE IN THE GRAND LINE WITHOUT A SUPER SPECIAL AWESOME NAVIGATOR WHO CAN SPIDER SENSE THROUGH ALL THAT SHIT!!!
>we don't see the navigator doing her job because it's not "plot relevant"
Then why. Does Nami. Exist?
>>82161477
>slightly
Demarco literally said in a Q&A that if Toonami didn't come back, Bleach would have been cancelled in 2012 because ASA was doing so bad.
But Toonami came back and fixed everything. Bleach never ever lost the midnight slot until it aired its final episode
>>82161528
Because for the longest time, Nami was the only cast member with boobs. Oda really likes drawing boobs.
>>82161528
Except you literally see her navigating in every arc.
Thanks for playing, bucko. Don't come back.
>>82161532
Well, that at least kept it from falling. It still played the entire 366 episodes which is a HUGE record for Adult Swim to play what is probably the longest running anime they ever had.
>>82161458
Oh no, I don't think one piece has bad power level gaps. In fact I think of it as an example of an anime where fights are usual on equal footing and using the aforementioned things. We were discussing Shaman King though.
Blah blah gold, go the fuck to sleep pupper.
toonami needs more catgirls
this is undeniable fact
>>82161555
Again, boobs is not a reason to be in the main cast. Oda's a fucking hack.
>>82161569
From what you assholes have been spewing, navigation is allegedly a highly complex task that requires a high level of skill and years of experience. Yet, the most we see of Nami doing her job is pointing in a direction. If that actually counts, then she has even less reason to exist.
>>82161634
Truth.
Sadly, they're a rarity nowadays, and even rarer in a major role.And there's no way in hell this A&W commercial is going to be on Toonami
>>82161637
Considering the kind of place the Grand Line/New World is, yes it is complex to navigate you retarded wrong dumb nigger.
>>82161637
>From what you assholes have been spewing, navigation is allegedly a highly complex task that requires a high level of skill and years of experience. Yet, the most we see of Nami doing her job is pointing in a direction. If that actually counts, then she has even less reason to exist.
>Experts in a field should be forced to undergo excessively strenuous tasks in order for the average viewer to understand that shit is complicated
Let me guess, you think Bill Nye isn't a scientist as well?
>>82161675
Then why do we not see this? Why doesn't the show dedicate a scene or two to showing off how much work navigation requires? Why doesn't Nami spout off some technobabble that goes right over everyone else's heads?
I'll fucking tell you why. Because Oda's a shit writer, and Nami is a useless cunt who is more of a plot device than an actual character.
>>82161637
>Explains why Nami is needed, then tries to explain why she isn't needed in the same line.
She's the map reader not the fucker driver mate. lmao. See you next week m8
>>82161709
Bill Nye is a mechanical engineer.
>>82161736
Just because we don't see an entire chapter/episode of Nami just looking at charts, the log poses, and studying the weather doesn't mean squat. Much less prove your bullshit "point" of her being useless.
Honestly, it's adorable the lengths you've gone to try and prove your horseshit, even pulling out irrelevant shit like Oda's writing.
>>82161736
>Why doesn't the show dedicate a scene or two to showing off how much work navigation requires?
There's been entire mini-arcs dedicated to this
>>82161736
We do see it, we just haven't in a while. Often we end up seeing the aftermath of someone else losing their navigator, like Brook. A lot of that was covered very early in the series, so it would be pointless to regurgitate it now.
>>82161709
Bill Nye actually spent his screen time teaching people some goddamned science. Nami has not once shown off her alleged expertise.
>>82161744
Why isn't she the driver? If her only role is to point the way, she may as well just go full on team bus. At least then she might be able to vaguely justify why she's on the damn boat to begin with.
>>82161818
>Nami hasn't taught anyone, this means she is useless
Not even remotely how it works. So funny how you move goalposts every time you're proven wrong.
>>82161767
He is also a scientist. You can be more than one thing at a time, m8.
>>82161818
>Nami has not once shown off her alleged expertise.
Then how did the crew get to the next island EVERY SINGLE TIME? I'm sure they just sat on the waves and got there by accident, especially in the grand line where that's literally impossible.
You know if you guys just quit responding to him he'd give it up, right?
>>82161843
But shitposting against shitposters is fun, especially in a thread that needs to be dead by sunrise anyway.
>>82161843
I used to believe that too, until I came to 4chan.
>>82161787
Oh is that so? Well good for her. Now maybe she can start working on not being such a shitty combatant.
>>82161792
>it would be pointless to regurgitate it now.
Why? It's oh so important since the Grand Line is so treacherous, so why isn't this a major focus of the show? Again, bad writing.
>>82161785
She's a main character in a fighting anime who can't fucking fight worth shit. That makes her automatically useless.
>>82161792
goodnigt derp
>>82161879
>She's a main character in a fighting anime who can't fucking fight worth shit.
It's an adventure anime, though.
>>82161879
Except it doesn't. Astounding how badly you want to be right despite being proven irrevocably wrong from the get go.
>>82161835
I never said she had to teach anyone anything. I just want her to prove her worth by showing off her super navigation skills.
>>82161837
>Then how did the crew get to the next island EVERY SINGLE TIME? I'm sure they just sat on the waves and got there by accident, especially in the grand line where that's literally impossible.
Show, don't tell. It's entirely plausible (and far more likely) that this plucky crew of dipshits get by on sheer dumb luck.
>>82161874
>shitposting against shitposters
Is that really what you think you're doing?
>>82161877
You right, we all know all to well despite the fact that literally every here, and on every other board you frequent hates you, you still persist on with posting like nothing happened
>>82161818
Nami's extraordinary skill at navigation, charting, reading ocean currents and reading the weather have been major plot points, and sometimes even the primary focus, in the following arcs:
>Orange Town
>Arlong Park
>Laboon
>Drum Kingdom
>Jaya and Skypeia
>Strong World
>Her cover story
>Fishman Island
>Zou
This isn't including the random trips between islands where she's always seen in charge and they run into wacky shit.
If you even had a passing familiarity with this series you'd know that Nami's role on the ship is the second most important, only following Luffy himself. It's also the one that comes up most frequently story-wise.
>>82161879
>Now maybe she can start working on not being such a shitty combatant.
She's more dangerous than Usopp and probably both Chopper and Brook at this point.
>Why? It's oh so important since the Grand Line is so treacherous, so why isn't this a major focus of the show?
It quite literally is the entire focus of the show.
>She's a main character in a fighting anime who can't fucking fight worth shit
There's like three arcs in OP actually dedicated to fighting.
It's mostly an adventure serial.
>>82161921
>how, don't tell. It's entirely plausible (and far more likely) that this plucky crew of dipshits get by on sheer dumb luck.
Except for the explicit statement when they enter the gran line where they say that this is literally impossible and that only expert navigators can make it through the chain of islands that make up the grand line. it's ironic to say here, but quit being a Toonami-only pleb.
>>82161937
They're shitposting, we're shitposting, it's exactly what was said.
Remember guys
>>82161921
And there you go again, changing the goalpost. You said you haven't seen her TEACHING her skills to anyone. Then you just say "Well I want her to show off her skills".
Know what? We've seen her do the latter, several times. You're denial of this is beyond idiotic, child.
>>82161874
No, you are making yourself look like an easily baited moron and pissing everyone else off by wasting countless posts
This EXACT bait was cast last week, you chomped down 2 for 2
>>82161964
Taking the bait isn't shitposting. It's just plain being stupid.
>>82161972
>and pissing everyone else off by wasting countless posts
The mods will prune the thread when they wake up anyway, why not have some dumb fun? Nobody's even assposting.
>>82161977
Except it is shitposting.
>>82161905
It's more of a comedy, really.
>>82161988
No they won't, they stopped doing that over a year ago
And again, it's not fun, you look like a total retard to everyone else present
>>82161943
>If you even had a passing familiarity with this series
Which I do, since I've been watching it. I haven't seen any of this come up. Especially not any of that shout her being in charge. Whatever it is you're smoking, you can keep it.
>She's more dangerous than Usopp and probably both Chopper and Brook at this point.
PFFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>It quite literally is the entire focus of the show.
>It's mostly an adventure serial.
Which is of course why most of what we see is typical shonen style fight scenes. Right.
>>82161999
A comedy focused on adventure for it's comedic beats.
>>82161882
Sweet dreams, Ryukopal.
>>82162008
>it's not fun because I say so
You make me laugh, anon.
>>82162010
>Which I do, since I've been watching it.
>I've been here since Water Seven!
Fuck off you Eternal September shitter
>>82162010
>Which is of course why most of what we see is typical shonen style fight scenes. Right.
>most of what we see is typical shonen style fight scenes.
To paraphrase you, PFFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>82161971
>You said you haven't seen her TEACHING her skills to anyone.
I said "show off her expertise". That does not mean teaching, you dumb sack of shit.
>We've seen her do the latter, several times.
No, we really haven't. And if we have, it was in a blink and you'll miss it moment, because I don't remember any of that shit.
>>82161964
>Except for the explicit statement when they enter the gran line where they say that this is literally impossible and that only expert navigators can make it through the chain of islands that make up the grand line
>statement
Again, show, don't tell.
>>82162074
>Again, show, don't tell.
>The story doesn't matter because I say it doesn't matter
>>82162010
>Which I do, since I've been watching it.
>Which is of course why most of what we see is typical shonen style fight scenes. Right.
Enies Lobby is 56 chapters in a series that's currently at 824 chapters. It's not even the longest arc by a long shot.
Hell, Toonami is currently airing the first half of Thriller Bark. Nothing in that is a battle shonen, its a horror movie parody.
>PFFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
She absolutely is.
Nami's combat gimmick is that she's a glass cannon. She dishes out use are of effect attacks and high damage lightning strikes that tend to defeat opponents quickly while relying on invisibility, mirages and tricks to avoid taking a hit.
Usopp in particular has and always will be the weakest member of the crew. He plays the role of the everyman and unlike everyone else isn't a naturally gifted genius in their area of expertise, he's the village orphan who owned a slingshot.
>>82162010
Her Clima-Tact gets repeated upgrades throughout the show. Her skill in meteorology (both predictive and offensive) is intrinsic to her role as ship's navigator. Even today, in our much less unpredictable world, the weather is of vital importance to mariners.
>>82162074
Except it does you fucking retard. You wanted her to show off to SOMEMONE, which she has in fact.
Stay doubly wrong and retarded, nignog.
>>82160203
Bounty is not a power level system thats your first mistake.
>>82162108
Her skills are a gift considering the literal unpredictable nature of the Grand Line. It can show one moment, than be hotter than the most arid desert day.
>>82161031
happy birthday Zombie Bro
>>82160298
Yes it is, nobody knew croc ran Baroque works in the manga, youre just straight up wrong.
>>82162034
>Nami is only useful in the beginning, g9o back and watch literally EVERY episode
Y'know, failing to make all the characters consistently relevant throughout is also bad writing.
>>82162096
>Enies Lobby is 56 chapters in a series that's currently at 824 chapters. It's not even the longest arc by a long shot.
>Hell, Toonami is currently airing the first half of Thriller Bark. Nothing in that is a battle shonen, its a horror movie parody.
The first time in a long time the story has actually been about adventuring.
>Nami's combat gimmick is that she's a glass cannon. She dishes out use are of effect attacks and high damage lightning strikes that tend to defeat opponents quickly while relying on invisibility, mirages and tricks to avoid taking a hit.
Great. Now if only she managed to put more than one tally in her win column...
>>82162152
In the case of some characters, it is. It's just not the ONLY means of measuring a character. And even then, there's no real set method to stacking someone against another.
>>82162185
>>>Nami is only useful in the beginning, g9o back and watch literally EVERY episode
Establishing her character early and then building on it =\= She only matters early on
Please learn to read the english language.
>The first time in a long time the story has actually been about adventuring.
Because you didn't watch the 200+ episodes before Toonami showed, which obviously makes you an expert.
>>82162185
>Nami is only useful in the beginning, g9o back and watch literally EVERY episode
Adorable how you try to put words into people's mouths and act like you can defeat their points.
>>82160433
Shes a ingenious navigator in a world where the sea has insane and deadly weather phenomena as a standard or parts of the sea youre just fucked if you enter such as the calm belt.
>>82162092
The story only matters if the elements within are substantially demonstrated. The Grand Line is supposed to be literally impossible to navigate without super compass sense or whatever. Why? What specific wacky thing requires the bitch to apply her pointing powers?
>>82162141
By someone, I meant the audience. Dumbass.
>>82160577
>>82160478
When you become a shubaki your bounty stops going up, so its useless trying to infer anything from their bountys aside from how much they were when they accepted the governments offer.
>>82162185
> failing to make all the characters consistently relevant throughout is also bad writing.
Except Nami played an important role during the Water 7 arc.
>The first time in a long time the story has actually been about adventuring.
The two arcs immediately before the Water 7 drama were 100% goofy adventuring. Immediately afterwords we went back to it.
You're acting like the Water 7 saga is the standard for the series. It was a huge act finale, giving answers to subplots and backstories that have lingered in the background of the story for hundreds of chapters and being a huge turning point for the crew.
>Great. Now if only she managed to put more than one tally in her win column...
Nami's had a few fights mate.
She's been involved with more than the fucking Kalifa battle.
>>82162244
>The Grand Line is supposed to be literally impossible to navigate without super compass sense or whatever. Why? What specific wacky thing requires the bitch to apply her pointing powers?
You would know if you didn't enter the story in the middle and assume you knew everything.
>>82162244
No, no you didn't mean the audience.
Though since you're shifting to this goalpost, you'll be glad to know she DID show off to the audience.
Enjoy your wrongness, nig.
>>82162244
Since you seem literally clueless, go read the wiki, dumbass:
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Line
>>82162256
>She's been involved with more than the fucking Kalifa battle.
And the fact that with each fight she's gotten sufficiently better and more competent.
>Tries to fight Arlong, nearly gets her jaw broken
>Fights Ms. Double-Finger, barely scrapes by after being skewered numerous times.
>Fights Kalifa, is practically on the same level of competence even without the training or discipline of the CP9 agent.
>>82162244
>The story only matters if the elements within are substantially demonstrated. The Grand Line is supposed to be literally impossible to navigate without super compass sense or whatever. Why? What specific wacky thing requires the bitch to apply her pointing powers?
This is what happens when you jump into a series at episode 300
Are you really expecting them to do the expositionary world building when they've been inside the Grand Line for a majority of the series? They've already been through 10 or so islands on the damn thing.
>>82162256
>Except Nami played an important role during the Water 7 arc.
I saw the Water 7 arc, and the only thing I remember Nami doing was crying over Usopp and Luffy fighting.
>Immediately afterwords we went back to it.
... Oh fuck, you're right. I had blocked out that pirate tournament shit. I swear, Japan needs to get another nuke so they will learn this shit is not okay.
>>82162257
I would know if you'd tell me, since I asked, cockbreath.
>>82162327
You didn't ask, you assumed you were the most knowledgable dickhead in the world and stated obvious untruths as facts. If you would have posed your "question" as a question in the first place maybe you wouldn't have five people shitting on you from every direction.
>>82162327
Ok, so it appears your problem is you can't remember anything about the show, and yet you come in on your high horse and bullshit about what you don't even understand.
Typical shitposter.
>>82162244
>elements within are substantially demonstrated
>One piece
>Elemets arent substantially demonstrated
It really is obvious you havent watched from the start hence why eveyone who did can see it.
Say what you will about OP you dont have to like it or certian characters but youre completely wrong.
It just so happens what you think OP lacks is probably its single strongest point to its overall writing. I
t really does continuity very very fucking well hence why everyone who has read it since the start thinks your retarded and knows your lieing.
>>82162351
I literally asked what specific wacky thing makes the Grand Line impossible to navigate.
Another question though; Are you fucking retarded?
>>82162277
>read the wiki
There's no need to be passive aggressive about this. You can just tell me.
>>82162272
>she DID show off to the audience.
WHEN?
>>82162327
If you were such an expert, you'd know she did far more. Such as shooting down the shady banker for the best turnout for the gold the crew had. She formed the airtight plan to find out what really happened to Iceberg. And at Enies Lobby, she took on a woman who had ten times the discipline and physical skill she's ever had.
You may pick up your BTFO sign at the door, sport.
>>82162389
Several times before Water Seven. Hell, she literally showed it when she realized the crew had fucking sailed onto the goddamn sea train tracks.
If you weren't fucking suffering from goldfish tier memory, you'd know this.
>>82162389
>I literally asked what specific wacky thing makes the Grand Line impossible to navigate.
Far before that you ran around acting like you knew every single piece of lore and came to the conclusion that Nami was not needed which even real-world nautical experiences would tell you is a false idea from the start. Trying to cover your ass by a late-asked question is silly at this point in the game, shitposter.
>>82162327
>I would know if you'd tell me, since I asked, cockbreath.
If you're insistent.
Islands on the Grand Line are made of rare minerals thanks to the exotic location and isolation of the sea, minerals that give off strong magnetic pulls. Because of this traditional compasses don't work, you can't reliably tell which way is north. Instead to navigate the Grand Line you travel via a logpose, a special compass that records the magnetic pull of the next island on your path so you can safely navigate further into the sea.
This also causes the Grand Line islands to have special climate zones, with some islands being "summer islands" where you're traveling through an arid desert while the island immediately after it can be a "winter island," where you're in a tundra. The interactions of these climates cause irregular weather patterns at sea, which only get stranger as the ocean gets more exotic. Raining thunder, the sea setting on fire, typhoons everywhere, currents that shoot you up into the sky, hail the size of vans, raining cotton candy, the ocean turning sideways or dropping off like a cliff. It's a completely unpredictable sea and at any moment you can be killed by a phenomenon of nature.
The Straw Hats have visited islands of dinosaurs. Islands in the sky that they had to fly too. Islands at the ocean floor. Lands on top of a massive country sized elephant. Ghost islands that travel through haunted seas. Without a navigator who can handle the unpredictable nature of the Grand Line and is familiar with it the crew is fucked, and because of that navigators are critically important to anyone trying to find the One Piece.
We've seen crews in-story that have been utterly demolished. There's also been countless examples of times where the Straw Hats would be dead without Nami's skill.
>>82162367
>>82162400
Maybe I'd remember more about the show if it didn't spend its entire run time yelling at me and causing me not to care about any of this spastic whoreshit.
>>82162371
>the only way to enjoy One Piece is by reading 15-20 years of material from the very beginning
... I sincerely hope you're joking. Because either way, that's NOT going to happen. I don't really want to find out what an aneurysm feels like.
>>82162461
Ok then, how about instead you can learn a little about real life marine navigation.
Tell me, can YOU understand this chart, without any formal training or experience in navigation at sea?
(Zoomable version at http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/13274.shtml)
>>82162461
>>the only way to enjoy One Piece is by reading 15-20 years of material from the very beginning
Nobody said that you spastic autist, the elephant in the room here is your reading comprehension is fucking epic shit tier.
Thats pretty much the answer to every question you asked.
Oda is a hack and always will be a hack. Stop spasting about something that's barely even readable.
>>82162482
>http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/13274.shtml
Dont forget shes not reading other peoples accurate charted maps either, shes charting them herself from scratch.
>
Nobody said that you spastic autist, the elephant in the room here is your reading comprehension is fucking epic shit tier.
This
>>82162424
>Far before that you ran around acting like you knew every single piece of lore
No I didn't. I never claimed to be an expert, and frankly, I'm glad I don't know anything about this show, since it already gives me a massive headache from godawful annoying it is. I just observed that Nami is a useless cunt and the story would be better off without her. Something anyone can easily notice.
>real world nautical experience
>having anything whatsoever to do with wacky magical cartoon land
Uh huh.
>>82162459
>the Grand Line is hard to navigate because magnets
Seems like a logpose and combat skill is really all you need to get around.
>unpredictable weather patterns
Then how the fuck does Nami predict them? Did she eat a Devil Fruit or something?
>>82162546
>That entire response
You literally even admit to knowing nothing and yet you still throw "opinions" around as facts because you have a knowledge complex. Keep it up, I'm sure you'll get enough (You)s to afford the chinese finger trap from the (You) redemption center someday!
>>82162546
>the Grand Line is hard to navigate because magnets
At this point you're going out of your way to not read.
It's an undocumented hell ocean with no maps detailing the thing where you have no sense of direction or stability. Only one person in the entire world has ever safely managed to reach the end of it, and that guy was the most powerful pirate in its worlds history.
It's literally the premise of the story and mentioned in half the intros.
>Then how the fuck does Nami predict them?
There's something called studying and intuition.
Nami's spent her entire life avidly learning navigation. Her lifes dream is to navigate the ocean and she's become so familiar with weather patterns that she can feel out the smallest drops in pressure.
>real world nautical experience
>having anything whatsoever to do with wacky magical cartoon land
It literally does. It's been brought up a number of times.
>>82162546
>Then how the fuck does Nami predict them?GeniusNavigatorProdigy
>>82162482
>all these handy markings
Well, yeah. Seems pretty straightforward, actually.
>>82162492
The answer to every question I've asked can be boiled down to "read the manga".
And I still haven't gotten an acceptable answer as to why Nami can't be a more competent fighter. Still waiting on that.
>>82162546
>having anything whatsoever to do with wacky magical cartoon land
Since you refuse to do even a modicum of reading about the show's lore, the alternative then is for you to learn something about the real world of maritime navigation which many aspects of the story are derived from or at least inspired by.
>the Grand Line is hard to navigate because magnets
Are you like selectively reading or something?
>Then how the fuck does Nami predict them?
It might be more appropriate to call them "extremely chaotic". Nami was once able to sense an approaching storm system even when she was nearly delirious with fever. That's simply the knowledge she has learned combined with practical experience at sea.
>>82162622
>It's literally the premise of the story and mentioned in half the intros.
But but anon i dont like one piece so im disregarding all that.... I mean there has be be even MORE reasons right? Or Oda is a shit writer thats how it works cus i said so.
>>82162636
>Nami can't be a more competent fighter. Still waiting on that.
Because shes in the end, a young girl with no devil fruit and no physical power.
>>82162622
>It's an undocumented hell ocean with no maps detailing the thing where you have no sense of direction or stability.
BULLSHIT. Tons of people live in the Grand Line, and yet nobody drew up a map of the place? Nope. Fuck you.
>Her lifes dream is to navigate the ocean and she's become so familiar with weather patterns that she can feel out the smallest drops in pressure.
But, you can't just will weather-sense into existence. I don't care how much "intuition" one develops, if there's unpredictable weather patterns, then you cannot fucking predict them. Seriously, does she have that haki shit going on or something?
>>82162718
Things like the sea train and log poses make that possible.
You can navigate by road easily, in the real world but go too deep in the woods without knowing what youre doing and youre fucked.
>>82162718
>Tons of people live in the Grand Line, and yet nobody drew up a map of the place? Nope. Fuck you.
How many of those people -travel- on it? They could make a map of the island they live on at most. The only other people who actually travel on the Grand Line are other pirates and Marines, who naturally aren't going to be willing to share their maps.
>>82162636
>Well, yeah. Seems pretty straightforward, actually
Ok then, smartass. Let's see YOU pilot a boat from New York to Boston Harbor with nothing but a compass and some nautical charts.
>>82162718
There's probably maps, and I think she's seen using them, but that just drives home my point about reading nautical charts even more
Also, stop being pedantically autistic with "unpredictable". Seriously.
>>82162718
>But, you can't just will weather-sense into existence. I don't care how much "intuition" one develops, if there's unpredictable weather patterns, then you cannot fucking predict them.
They're unpredictable if you're not experienced in meteorology. That's also a real-world skill. I'll even document it for you: http://www.weather.com
>>82162636
>And I still haven't gotten an acceptable answer as to why Nami can't be a more competent fighter. Still waiting on that.
The characters like Luffy, Zoro, Sanji and Usopp who don't really play active roles on the ship itself get all the fights.
The characters who have very specific jobs like Chopper, Robin and Nami don't. They play other roles in the story and don't really need constant fights to justify their existence in the narrative or develop as characters.
>>82162718
>BULLSHIT. Tons of people live in the Grand Line, and yet nobody drew up a map of the place?
Okay so, remember that thing I said about how the Grand Line is a one way route that only gets deadlier the further you get into it?
And how only one person in the world as made it to the end even once, let alone all 7 or 8 times requires to see the whole thing?
Even the marines, who are able to come and go as they please with advancements in technology, aren't capable of exploring its second half. Huge chunks of the ocean have been untouched by man for thousands of years. Some islands are prehistoric and others are so far into the future they're Jetsons tier.
If you're going to ask questions about the comics world and lore you should stop fucking ignoring the answers and put in any effort to research it.
>>82162718
>But, you can't just will weather-sense into existence. I don't care how much "intuition" one develops, if there's unpredictable weather patterns, then you cannot fucking predict them. Seriously, does she have that haki shit going on or something?
Actually you can, like sailors who can smell and taste rain coming or atmospheric changes, or know how the weather will be next morning based on the colour, shape, and size of the sunset.
Theres a basis for it, havent you ever been really good at something?
>>82162636
>And I still haven't gotten an acceptable answer as to why Nami can't be a more competent fighter.
Because the only people who think she needs to be are morons who still think this is nothing more than a battle shounen.
>>82162698
Why is she written like that? Seems like a pretty dumb idea to have a main character in your fighting series who can't fight worth a damn.
>>82162641
>That's simply the knowledge she has learned combined with practical experience at sea.
Y'know, there's actually a fairly common method of sensing an approaching storm system that doesn't require years of experience. It's called looking up.
So unless the storm was magically invisible, not really seeing how this is a useful skill of hers.
>>82162788
I wish Robin fought more, she doesnt assassin enough, though when she does its brutal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtMvwaepuJE
>>82162830
The issue's with Robin's power is that either she can snap your neck and end the fight within seconds or the enemy is immune to her.
There's not a lot of leeway with her abilities to provide an interesting fight. Which is a shame, they're fucking cool
>>82162815
>Y'know, there's actually a fairly common method of sensing an approaching storm system that doesn't require years of experience. It's called looking up.
Every meteorologist in the world is shaking their head right now.
It's wonderful that you're so in tune with the weather that you've surpassed the need for a weather channel.
>>82162815
Are you seriously that dense? If you're perceptive, you can feel the pressure drop of an approaching storm way before it even approaches the horizon. Do you just think that meteorologists go through 4+ years of college education just to stare up at the sky all damn day?
>TG doesn't want to talk about One Piece when its on
>3 hours later
>"One Piece? SIGN ME UP!"
>>82162761
>Let's see YOU pilot a boat from New York to Boston Harbor with nothing but a compass and some nautical charts.
I probably could if I tried. What exactly is your point with this?
>>82162788
>They play other roles in the story and don't really need constant fights to justify their existence in the narrative or develop as characters.
It's an action series. Anyone not contributing to the action is superfluous.
>If you're going to ask questions about the comics world and lore you should stop fucking ignoring the answers and put in any effort to research it.
I don't really see why I should bother researching it. This might all be interesting if the show's tone didn't make me want to rip off my own ears.
>>82162791
>Theres a basis for it, havent you ever been really good at something?
Not really, no.
>>82162896
It's less wanting to talk about One Piece and more just some good old fashioned retard hunting.
>>82162900
>I probably could if I tried.
Ok then, do it. Make sure to post pics with timestamps as proof.
>>82162900
>I probably could if I tried. What exactly is your point with this?
That you couldn't because you likely have no innate skill AND no marine knowledge. You'd wreck, sink, and kill anyone else on board too.
>It's an action series. Anyone not contributing to the action is superfluous.
You're a moron. Any thought processes are superfluous.
>I don't really see why I should bother researching it.
So, you don't care about the questions you're asking? Library definition of a shitposter.
>Not really, no.
Let's be fair, you're really good at proving a need for euthanasia.
>>82162815
>Why is she written like that? Seems like a pretty dumb idea to have a main character in your fighting series who can't fight worth a damn.
She does fight shes just not a front line fighter, what you really are asking is why isnt Nami a brawler and thats because shes a 17 year old girl without any devil fruit powers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZBBlHU0D5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRsOyj4adHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb3PqIKsIwE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ekufxcgWm4
Also one of the central themes of OP is helping friends out and covering for each others weaknesses Namy has Luffy, Zorro, Sanji, Franky, Chopper, Robin, and Brooke who are all far better fighters than her.
None of them could read a map or a sea chart or smell out a storm to save their lives though.
>>82162848
Yah Robin could never get Haki or the rest of OP would be trivial.
Robin break him from a mile away.
Thank you Robin
NEXT!!!!
>>82162873
>If you're perceptive, you can feel the pressure drop of an approaching storm way before it even approaches the horizon.
Sure, if you're a horse.
>Do you just think that meteorologists go through 4+ years of college education just to stare up at the sky all damn day?
I kind of assumed they used their expensive state of the art radar tracking equipment, actually.
>>82162848
>Every meteorologist in the world is shaking their head right now.
And I'll start caring about their opinions when they stop sucking at their jobs.
>>82162900
>It's an action series. Anyone not contributing to the action is superfluous.
It's an adventure series about exploring new locales, meeting new people, overcoming obstacles and going on a journey. Fighting is a part of it because they have competition for the treasure, but it's absolutely not the series' main focus outside of the Enies Lobby and Marineford arcs.
It's named after a macguffin they're searching for. The entire backdrop for the series is "here's this weird RPG world with loads of islands and cultures and people, go wild." It borrows a lot from early Red Ribbon era Dragon Ball.
>This might all be interesting if the show's tone didn't make me want to rip off my own ears.
Why are you arguing about a show you neither watch, like or have any interest in understanding?
It's clearly not for you or even in a genre that you like.
>>82162958
>Sure, if you're a horse.
>I kind of assumed they used their expensive state of the art radar tracking equipment, actually.
>And I'll start caring about their opinions when they stop sucking at their jobs.
There comes a point when to keep the it going you have to step into blatant easily disprovable bullshit youve long past that point young troll.
>>82162958
>Sure, if you're a horse.
>I kind of assumed they used their expensive state of the art radar tracking equipment, actually.
A. People had to develop that technology. Know how they knew what to put into that technology to deliver accurate readings?
B. You still need to know how to interpret that data, in the end. Which means you need to have a knowledge of how weather works.
>And I'll start caring about their opinions when they stop sucking at their jobs.
This is too much bait even for me.
>>82162958
You are the 4kids of mental ability.
>>82162958
You know what? I'm going to bed now. This is too much retardation for one night.
L8r, much.
>>82162933
>So, you don't care about the questions you're asking?
Why would I? I fucking hate this series. I'm just trying to understand why anyone puts up with Nami's presence when she's just so awful and useless.
You what the hell of it is, when I first watched this show a long time ago, I immediately latched on to her as my favorite because she was the only one who acted like a real damn pirate. But then the longer the show went on, the more I realized that she really didn't need to be here. Oh sure, she could use a compass, but it always seemed so highly implausible that she was literally the only one on board could actually figure out where the hell they were supposed to be going. Her existence necessitates everyone else being a total moron. That is unacceptable.
>>82162938
>Nami covers for everyone else's weakness of having a shit sense of direction
Riveting.
>tfw you realize the reason nobody shitposts about Naruto is because nobody cares at all about that show
>>82163030
>I'm just trying
This is objectively wrong.
>>82163030
>>Nami covers for everyone else's weakness of not being a trained navigator and Cartographer.
just came in
this is the most stupidest spergy argument
>>82163040
Naruto's been over for a while and nobody gives a shit about Boruto.
Shitposters flocked to One Piece threads on every board for their daily shonen bitching. Dragon Ball too, now that that's gotten a revival.
>>82163030
Your entire argument boils down to not understanding a single thing about maritime navigation or meteorology and taking a high ground over it.
This isn't even complicated shit. I learned about sailing in grade school.
>>82163066
Its not really an argument its people playing with a troll, its so off base and obvious trolling you cant even really be mad at him.
Just have fun with it.
>>82163051
I'm serious. Why the hell do you like her? Why is anyone okay with her being in the series at all? I don't get it.
>>82163060
>implying you have to get training to understand what the letters on a compass mean
>>82163071
Also anyone who grew up on the ocean knows anon is some landlocked city kid.
I could smell a storm when i was in fucking elementary school, the metal taste and smell of ozone is unforgeable.
>>82163081
>>implying you dont have to get training to understand what a compass, sextant, star chart, etc mean.
>>82163096
>Also anyone who grew up on the ocean knows anon is some landlocked city kid.
I live by the beach and my family owns a boat dude.
I'm pretty sure I'm not capable of getting in a caravel and sailing to Africa using 1700's era tech.
>>82163124
No youre not, i never said you could.
You should know what a storm smells like if you live or grew up on the ocean though.
>>82163071
>I learned about sailing in grade school.
Good for you. What does that have do do with Nami being a pointless cunt who only exists to justify the other characters' stupidity?
>>82163109
No, you don't. I already know what those things are.
>>82163096
Yes, I live in the city. Hooray, I don't have to put up my house getting invaded by sea lice and crabs. Also, I'm not being bombarded with the constant stench of salt water.
>>82163030
>Oh sure, she could use a compass, but it always seemed so highly implausible that she was literally the only one on board could actually figure out where the hell they were supposed to be going. Her existence necessitates everyone else being a total moron. That is unacceptable.
Clearly you don't know this, but the pilot/navigator was pretty much the most important person on a ship in the 16th century. Trying to get from, say, Spain to the Americas without one would have been suicidal, and that's with skilled, experienced sailors running the ship.
Why are we still talking about this
>>82163170
>Clearly you don't know this, but the pilot/navigator was pretty much the most important person on a ship in the 16th century
Clearly I do, because you fuckers NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT. That doesn't change the fact Nami's the only one who can do it, and that requires everyone else to be a raging dipshit with a collective IQ of 10.
>>82163202
>Clearly I do, because you fuckers NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT.
Maybe that's because you're still being a dumb cunt about it.
Hurr durrr any1 with an IQ > 10 can navgate bcause i no wat a compass is
>>82163231
Just because it's an important job doesn't mean only one person can do it. That's absurd.
And in fact, fuck that anon from earlier. Now I DO want her to teach the others how to do it. If it's such an invaluable position that takes skill and knowledge to perform, why doesn't she teach it to the others in case she gets killed? Guess the whore doesn't actually care about her friends enough to set up a contingency.
How the hell did these bunch of retards get anywhere?
>>82163313
So you'd be happier if, say, Zoro was also the navigator and Nami didn't exist, because that would streamline everything?
Are you Karl Pilkington?
>>82163351
>So you'd be happier if, say, Zoro was also the navigator and Nami didn't exist, because that would streamline everything?
Absolutely. The reverse works too, I don't care.
Japanese Censorship baffles me.
>>82163313
You're complaining that it's unrealistic to have a dedicated navigator in a work of fiction when that's exactly how things worked in the real world. Real life is unrealistic, apparently. But if you're going to keep insisting that anyone who knows east from west can be a navigator then what more can one say? Can't argue with insane troll logic.
>>82163497
I really wouldn't care if she wasn't so useless in a fight.
>You're complaining that it's unrealistic to have a dedicated navigator in a work of fiction when that's exactly how things worked in the real world.
>fiction and reality are the same thing
...
>>82163419
There's such a thing as taking conservation of detail too far. Putting aside the actual topic of Nami, I don't understand the desire for everything in a work of fiction to be streamlined to such a degree. Stories written that way can end up feeling too artificial and unrealistic.
>>82163313
was it ever said that only Nami knows how to navigate? i'm sure someone else on broad could navigate if needed. its just Nami is better than anyone else they have. Usopp was the one that repaired the ship. Now that they have Franky, Usopp does something else. Nami probably been a pirate the longestwas Robin really a pirate?and she's trained to navigate, that's why she has that role. She not a martial artist or has powers, so that's why she doesn't fight much. Nami is more sneaky and crafty than someone that could straight up murder you. If they got into a fight and she and Usopp was their last hope they're fuck. the opponents in One piece are absurdly powerful and is really difficult to fight one without powersthat Haki bullshit is a power
>>82163520
>I really wouldn't care if she wasn't so useless in a fight.
Nobody fights besides Luffy, Zoro and Sanji anyway so who gives a fuck
>>82163560
Streamlining a work makes things easier for everyone involved. The writer can devote more resources to fewer subjects, and the audience can become more easily invested in the characters when there aren't dozens of them to think about all at once.
>unrealistic
Fiction is inherently unrealistic. And the subject at hand is a wacky pirate land where people gain superpowers by eating magical fruit.
>>82163592
Ironically, Zoro has semi-decent navigation skills. He was getting him and Luffy through East Blue until his "captain" went after that gull.
>>82163520
>I really wouldn't care if she wasn't so useless in a fight.
That's dumb. You're dumb.
>>82163520
>fiction and reality are the same thing
More insane troll logic. One minute you're complaining that it makes no sense for only her to have these skills, the next you're saying that it doesn't have to make sense because it's fiction. Could we maybe talk to one of the voices in your head at a time?
>>82163616
>Ironically, Zoro has semi-decent navigation skills.
What? No he doesn't.
They were lost at sea for days. Zoro has the worst sense of direction in the series to the point its a reoccuring gag.
>>82163592
>Was it ever said that only Nami knows how to navigate?
It seems rather evident, since we don't see anyone else doing it.
>Nami is more sneaky and crafty than someone that could straight up murder you.
Then have her stealth bitches. Just give her something that doesn't make her feel like a prop.
>>82163597
I give a fuck. Bad writing pisses me off.
>>82163643
>It's bad writing if this fleshed out character who's one of the most active members of the crew doesn't have cool battle powers because I want this series to be more like Bleach and less like Treasure Island
>>82163614
>Streamlining a work makes things easier for everyone involved.
Yes, and there's such a thing as overdoing it.
>Fiction is inherently unrealistic.
You're invalidating a lot of your previous points. Good job.
>>82163631
There's a very real difference between lack of realism, and the characters being stupid. A little bit of forward planning is good regardless of how realistic your setting is.
>>82163665
>fleshed out
A BLOO HOO MUH VILLAGE IS BULLIED BY FISH PEOPLE
>most active
If bitching about money and pointing to the next town count as being active, then One Piece may qualify as the most boring adventure ever written.
>>82163665
Never mind that the best fights are the ones where the weakest members fight and win. I cheer much more when someone like Nami or Usopp wins against tough opponents because of how much harder it is for them than the crew's "three monsters". It makes it all the more meaningful that they have the guts to do what has to be done and all the more cool when they come out on top.
>>82163643
that not real evident we just haven't seen anyone else do it. Usopp probably could do the job if something happen to Nami. Nami is smart enough to know she has a small chance in fighting a lot of the people they end up fighting. Plus, she a pirate and not a ninja, think of Nami like Jack Sparrow. She thinks like a pirate and she's going avoid fights against stronger opponent.
>>82163706
>If bitching about money and pointing to the next town count as being active
This bait got old.
Just admit that you don't like Nami because you don't find her fights entertaining and don't give a shit about the rest of One Piece.
God, this guy's worse than ACfag
>>82163762
>Just admit that you don't like Nami because you don't find her fights entertaining and don't give a shit about the rest of One Piece.
Was that not obvious?
>>82163745
>Nami is smart enough to know she has a small chance in fighting a lot of the people they end up fighting.
Too bad she's not smart enough to fuck off so she can be replaced by someone worth a shit.
>>82163677
>Yes, and there's such a thing as overdoing it.
No there isn't. You can and should always cut out the fat.
>>82163706
>There's a very real difference between lack of realism, and the characters being stupid.
If you want it to be unrealistic, then it shouldn't matter to you that only she has the skills to navigate the grand line. Only it should matter to you, since that's actually perfectly realistic.
Fuck. What is wrong with your brain, friend?
>>82163794
>Was that not obvious?
It'd be nice if you stopped making ridiculous claims to pretend you have a reason beyond "Nami vs. Kalifa was pretty boring."
One Piece isn't a battle shonen. It's an action adventure fantasy series. If that's not your taste that's perfectly fine but stop crying that the series is something its not, or that being an entirely different genre than the one you care for somehow makes it badly written.
Just turn off the TV and do something else when its on. It's what I did with Hamtaro when Toonami aired it back in the day.
>>82163808
Well of course it's realistic for people to be stupid enough to not implement redundancies. That doesn't make it any less frustrating.
And hell, being a work of fiction, solid planning should be more common, since the only thing stopping the heroes from being smart is the author.
>>82163848
How was Nami vs Kalifa boring?
>>82163875
Didn't mean to quote >>82163848
Hey, who here reads the One Piece manga?
>>82163909
I got into the series in 2004 and been up to date with the Japanese releases since 2007.
It's been a part of my weekly schedule for so long it'll feel surreal when it's over.
>>82163831
>One Piece isn't a battle shonen.
Yeah, it really is. It pays out like one, just with a ton of filler between the fights.
>being an entirely different genre than the one you care for somehow makes it badly written.
It's badly written because heroes are obnoxious retards, and half of them have no good reason to exist.
>>82163875
It expects the audience to root for a useless bitch who has no right to be in the show to begin with. Asking someone to cheer on Nami of characters, is like asking them to stick one's head in an oven for an hour.
>>82163947
But the fight wasn't boring at all, she made great use of her new Clima-tact
>>82163947
>Yeah, it really is. It pays out like one, just with a ton of filler between the fights.
Except that's wrong.
There are entire arcs that go for 50-60 with a single fight in it. We just had a 30 chapter arcs that didn't have a single one. The entire first half of the Water 7 arc you claimed to watch was mostly mystery and drama.
It's an adventure serial with fights in it. Not an action series where the plot only exists to justify fighting. Enies Lobby is one of the two arcs that really embraces the series' shonen elements and it's an exception to the rule.
>It's badly written because heroes are obnoxious retards, and half of them have no good reason to exist.
Objectively wrong.
>>82163966
That's what makes all of Nami's fights boring. Her retarded little weather stick thing isn't interesting. And besides, a good fight depends on audience investment. I don't care if Nami wins, in fact I hope the dumb bimbo dies already.
Y'know, it's a little disconcerting that so many people defend her so strongly. One Piece-fags can't be this delusional. Right? You have to realize she's pretty much worthless.
I smell an ACfag
Sounds like a lot of "I don't like it, and I can't possibly understand why someone would like something I don't"
>>82163999
>b*mbo
Nice gendered slur there, pal.
>>82163984
>Not an action series where the plot only exists to justify fighting.
I beg to differ, I've not seen a whole lot else but fighting in this series.
>>82164057
It might help if people who do like this show might be willing to explain themselves instead of being so obnoxiously circuitous about it.
Sonygger
>>82164100
>I beg to differ, I've not seen a whole lot else but fighting in this series.
You also skipped 300 episodes, jumping into to the climax of the climax arc.
No fucking shit your perception of the series' tone, audience and goal is skewed. You weren't even familiar with things introduced in the first few pages of the story earlier in the thread.
>>82164081
First, I already called her a cunt several times, and bimbo is where you draw the line? Yeah, okay. And second, she IS a bimbo. She's a vacuous twat who dresses like a hooker.
>>82164156
She's smarter than you, fag, judging by this entire thread
>>82164141
And what, if I were to watch it from the beginning, I'd instantly fall in love with it? I rather doubt that.
>>82164193
I wouldn't waste time and effort trying to buy my village's freedom from the most obviously evil bastard ever who also killed my mom and brags about it constantly. So I disagree, I'm pretty sure I'm a fair deal smarter than Nami.
She actually believed that shit, the dumb bitch.
>>82164241
>And what, if I were to watch it from the beginning, I'd instantly fall in love with it? I rather doubt that
No. I'm saying you wouldn't be calling it something its not if you saw most of the other arcs.
There's nothing wrong with a show not suiting your tastes anon. I'm not sure why it's such a big deal for you that it doesn't.
>>82164241
Tell me, if you were in her shoes, what would you have done?
>>82164337
It's a big deal because everyone is always crawling up my ass about how "good" this show is, when it makes me want to kill myself. That's annoying as fuck. The fact that people do love this show so much is disgusting.
>>82164349
I would probably seek out strong allies to help me liberate my village, the ransom money instead going to the rebel force's budget. Ugh, though now I realize that Nami actually did that by accident. How convenient she manged to find the altruistic pirates to help her. ... Goddamn, I hate this fucking series.
>>82164416
>I would probably seek out strong allies to help me liberate my village
There's a big variety of reasons why this wouldn't work and why she never tried to do it.
>>82164416
>I would probably seek out strong allies to help me liberate my village
But you come from a weak village in the weakest ocean, and you're going up against Arlong and his crew, who are not only Fishmen, which are naturally ten times as strong as humans, but they're tough as fuck and from the Sun Pirates, which was lead by a member of the Shichibukai.
You can't go to the Marines, either, because the ones nearby are being bribed by Arlong
And like >>82164433 said, a lot more things
>>82164433
And I can already tell you right now that each and every one of those reasons is bullshit. The fact remains that she actually believed Arlong would honor his end of the bargain. Nami is a stupid bimbo, through and through.
>>82160087
>12:00 Dragon Ball Z Kai 1,393,000
It's incredible how people still watch DBZ with the rushed placed replacement soundtrack for Kai
>>82164502
Arlong was a level 40 boss hanging around in a level 2 village stuck in the corner of the world map.
He was a pirate far beyond the rest dicking around in East Blue, from the governments perspective an influential Grand Line pirate had no reason to be hanging out in a backwater hick town. He was bribing the local marines to keep his operations a secret because their captain was corrupt, so nobody was coming to save them, and the marines that got too close to Cocoyashi were immediately attacked and killed on sight. There was no information going out and nobody coming for them.
Nami was only allowed to leave the village because of her association with Arlong, which was branded on her. She had no way of getting to or contacting the more distant seas for help either because she's a fucking nobody and traveling between them in the One Piece world is unreasonably hard. Plus she had Arlong's eye on her, if she went missing for a huge period of time he'd get suspicious and end their deal. Her choices were to trust he would honor his bargain or to literally let her village die. There was no in-between.
You said it yourself. They finally found their saviors when a bunch of other overleveled dudes who were altruistic and didn't give a damn about the marines charged in and branded themselves as wanted men to save their village.
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