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So why didn't he have a contingency plan?
>>82023410
Hussie is a hack
>>82023410
Droog was my first guess back when nobody knew who Lord English was
He canonically had a plan to take over after the Condesce. Hussie just ran out of fucks to give. Give me a minute and I'll find the page.
Characters who deserve to enter the new universe:
John
Rose
Dave
Jade
Casey
WV
PM
Terezi
Kanaya
Aradia
Sollux
Jane
Roxy
Dirk
Jake
Dad
The Felt
Calliope
Honorable mention: Aimless Renegade, Spades Slick
Anyone I forgot?
Why did Hussie do Davekat if he just went with Davejade in the end
>>82023452
As one last "fuck you" to shippers.
>>82023410
>implying he didn't
>implying it's not working perfectly
>>82023452
proof?
what's the name of the comic where jade blows dave through a wormhole?
>>82023452
Because he was never going to do Davekat
It was a last minute why not thing, before he went back to his actual plan. It's a really good thing he didn't, because now only one character instead of both were ruined.
>>82023452
its the smell of giving up with the teens
>>82023452
Ipgd is a vvapid bitch
>>82023452
He didnt. He left it vague to appease to as many as possible
>>82023452
queerbaiting for tumblr dosh
>>82023527
I'd rather see the comic where Jade blows Dave instead.
>>82023452
Because Jade deserved Dave way more. Their relationship was also way better than Dave and Karkat's
>>82023452
Did he also make ipgd come to lie about davekat being endgame? What even was the purpose of that. Unless Hussie also trolled ipgd for being a fujoshit.
>>82023527
Long Distance Relationship. The one with the pic of a MILF Jade with a bunch of babies at the end. Check the /aco/ archives.
>>82023580
that's what I asked for.
Anyone know the name? I think it was made by mindwipe but I can't find it
>>82023410
>>82023438
>Implying he won't be in the epilogue, forming a kickass new team with the surviving Jack, CD and Ms Paint
>>82023592
No. Hussie indulged her because they're friends, but he never meant to follow through because as broken as he is, he's still not THAT fucking stupid.
i liked every part of the comic up until the end.
Its still probably one of my favorite works of fiction
>>82023609
yeah that's it. Couldn't find it on the /aco/ archives though, guess I'll look somewhere else.
>>82023592
i doubt there was more to it than hussie thought it was funny
>>82023611
No no, the comic were she blows Dave. BLOWS Dave, eh, ehh?
>>82023592
Either ipgd betrayed her fujoshi bretheren, or Hussie trolled her. I don't know which is better.
>>82023680
Just ask in the /aco/ thread then
>>82023680
Ask in the /aco/ thread, it gets posted all the time. I guess people like watching Dave knock Jade up
>>82023746
I hope that actually happens in the epilogue, just to drive home how not-canon Davekat is
>Jade is the most desired girl by far all because she's the only one who got to talk when the ending came
>>82023653
No. Fucking unacceptable. Not allowed.
The comic is hereon absolute trash. Every minute of it is irredeemable garbage. Retroactively.
YOU FUCKING HEAR ME? THE COMIC IS SHIT
UTTER SHIT
>>82023592
She was baiting the whole time, probably her own idea.
https://desustorage.org/co/thread/81584157/#81593426
>>82023803
The last things she ever did was give us a satisfying pesterlog after a dearth of them for years.
That's waifu material right there.
>>82022214
oh man thats worse
much worse
guh
>>82023803
Jade sunk Davekat, that makes her the best character
>>82023911
Oh, sorry you don't like it. I think it looks great, though.
Anyone else have any suggestions?
>>82023922
>Not the colored version
>>82023803
>jades big breeding duties
>>82023911
Just use flats man.
>>82023653
this to be quite honest
regardless of the mediocre ending, hs changed the game in terms of what a webcomic was capable of
>>82024002
I really really want lots of nice little dog-eared kids to happen. You got me tumblr. I want a heartwarming family of humans with little dog ears on top like a garnish of powdered cute. I want Dave to be occasionally scolded for his unorthodox parenting techniques by a grumpy Jade, already busy breast feeding the latest set of triplets. I want Jade to sleep covered in a blanket of tiny, slightly fluffy babies. I want Jade to feel fulfilled in her position as grand matriach of an incredibly complex family tree that's incredibly influential in the world. Like her great-great-great-great-great-great granddaughter gonna roll up to a full club, and just flash her ears like they're some obscure but deeply ominous family crest tattoo. And then after she gets drunk and fucks a few guys, she calls up her literal goddess ancestor to tell her about her wild night, and Jade threatens to disown her and bite off her ears if she ever uses a condom again.
Meanwhile Karkat gets lonely, clones himself, spends a few decades engaged in incredibly frustrated failed blackrom, before dying. His clone then gets lonely, and heads back to the ectobiology lab to repeat the cycle.
>>82023803
No, we desire her because every other girl is either fat or a lesbian, usually both.
What's the best album song that was never used in a flash?
>>82024009i really don't like that shirt
>>82024060
What the fuck is that thing? Is it supposed to be a troll? That's clearly Dave on the right but that other thing doesn't look like something from Homestuck.
>>82024060
if that thing came up to me, I'd be more terrified than flustered
>>82024043
Don't forget Roxy. But of course none of us would want to get between her and her highly respectable, upstanding man's true love.
>>82024043
wew lad
>>82024138
That's Karkat, silly.
>>82024060
Man, why did they make Dave in charge of diplomacy to the fag planet
I honestly just have a theory now about why some questions weren't answered in the ending.
Remember the whole Caucasian incident? Well, I think ever since then, Hussie has been quite... Careful about the things he puts out in Homestuck. Maybe, just maybe he didn't want to offend everybody, so he stuck to something which, while it would leave people UNSATISFIED, it wouldn't actually offend everybody. His reasoning is that by having everyone come to their conclusion of what happened, they won't get offended by the ending he originally intended to put out, because nothing has been set in stone, as it's up to the viewers to gather their OWN stones and set it in theirs.
So basically, we got the ending due to the fact that Hussie was too afraid of triggering the wussies.
>>82024035
>tfw you made copypasta
i always forget. is nepeta's tail real or fake
>>82024203
people are awful, i dont blame him
>>82024138
It's Karkat.
Obviously.
>>82024203
He can offend, or rather disappoint, by omission though.
Like, every person who expected (Karkat) and (Terezi) to have one last meeting. Or show some sort of relation between post retcon Karkat and Terezi that isn't just fuckall.
>>82024282
>stretchmarks
>>82024305
Who would just leave something stuck in their ass? thats dumb as shit
>still shipping Katnep when post-retcon Karkat makes fun of her for being on the same shit level like Eridan
>>82024282
This has to be a parody
Who the fuck would draw this unironically
There, finally done
I hope you're here anon because I am fucking done drawing this pose forever
>>82023625
>Slick, Jack, Ms Paint, and CD
>4 people
>4 Players
>They start Sburb in the new universe
>Hardmode intensifies
>>82024251
I always liked the idea that the first time she and Equius hugged, he accidentally broke her spine, prompting him to make an artificial one that looks like a tail.
>>82024028
I use my retcon powers to think of it as always shit.
I miss 2011 HSG
>>82024305
This girl's got some serious muscle control back there, I'll tell you what.
>>82024336
When was this?
>>82023439
Authour and the Sprites
>>82024432
*wwalks into time machine*
>>82024340
http://of-cats-and-crows.tumblr.com/
http://daveactualstridersart.tumblr.com/
>>82024468
When Karkat wakes up in the dreambubbles and complains how he doesn't get a special role in the ghost army.
>>82024282
>those fucking stretchmarks
>Trying to make Karkat look like a ladyboy but failing miserable
Goddammit, these fuckers need to look up better curvacious reference. If you wanna make Karkat JUST THE RIGHT body type for a ladyboy, you've got to study that shit.
The problem in this picture is that Karkat just looks more like a teenage dyke that just got out of pregnancy. Those stretch marks are something that Dave would canonically point out too. It's not something Karkat would have.
Pic related is what Karkat should look like if we're going for a lady boy look, but this artist is probably more worried about "representing" the more unpopular bodytypes instead of making Karkat looking like he has the tightest boipucci in the world.
>Am I not clever for subverting expectations?
No, you are just a bad writer, but at least an entertaining one.
>>82024480
>black link
>still can't beat off to Homestuck characters without hearing the Strife theme in your head right until you finish
>>82024336
>>82024499
Karkat has always openly talked shit about Nepeta, that's not going to stop the Katnep shippers.
>>82024282
>>82024060
>>82024480
How can I muster enough irony to willingly draw something like this?
I know that the people drawing this garbage are serious.
But this shit is so nasty and horrid to look at. It needs to be utilized elsewhere, weaponized even.
>>82024480
>Seriously thinking she has a chance of winning with this
>>82024570
he talks shit about nepeta because he LOVES her silly
>>82024533
Hey I'd take something entertainingly nonsensical over what we got any day of the week.
>>82024593
i mean thats hardly offensive
but its not really a good design for a shirt
>>82024593
>bloodtint skin
Reeeeeee
>>82024531
I don't think they were going for that at all. They were probably aiming for him to look like he has a 100% female body, implying he's transgender.
>>82023964
it felt disjointed
i think i went to crazy with the outlining earlier
Yes but Jade.
I think Hussie introduced Davepeta solely to hook Karkat up with someone in the epilogue.
Think about it.
>Davekat is teased by Karkat RIGHT before Collide
>Nepeta goes right back to talking about Karkat before they merge
>>82024531
>tfw no thicc homestuck boipussy bf
>>82024650
what was that about jade's butt?
>>82024675
Davepeta is DAOOTS
English killed it sometime before Act 7.
>>82024650
Old Jade?
>>82024643
I know it's supposed to be a sketch, but it's so different looking from your usual style, but not ban.Unrelated: was the imgur album I uploaded yesterday any help?
>>82024053
well it looks practically just like the one you're making
>>82024203
Except
A) He said he had the ending planned years in advanced.
B) most people are more unsatisfied with just how much shit we didn't even get to see then people who where mad because their ship's and head canon's weren't confirmed.
C) Some people still found a way to be magically offended anyways so not offending anyone was a shit motive for such a rushed and hollow ending.
SO no, I don't but it.
>>82024643
For the right could you add some effect to the gears to rep tzs mind shit?
>>82024685
>tfw no bf who looks and acts identical to dave
is it so hard for homestuck artists to just put some logos and weapons on a shirt instead of cramming it with fucking god tier pastels and stupid white heads
>>82024643
Use the first one, make the fade on the gears a teal-red-orange fade, and then make the lineart clean in illustrator.
Andrew Hussie allows you to directly change ONE (1) plot point of Homestuck. This can be as major or as minor as you want, and the rest of the story will be changed to reflect its implications. Basically, it's the retcon, except you have a chance to make it better instead of worse. What do you do?
>>82024753
>god tier pastels and stupid white heads
most homestuck artists are girls.
>>82023439
eridan?
>>82024784
Dave fucks my self insert
>>82024675
I think you have it the other way around, considering Davepeta kissed Jade.
Davepeta will show up in the epilogue and Davekat will be canon while Jade gets Davepeta.
>>82024784
Caliborn (and English by extension) was always the main character.
>>82023439
Correction
Characters who deserve to enter the new universe:
The Felt
LE
Spades Slick
It's time to avenge a motherfucking casino, bitch
>>82024784
Vriska never appears again after EOA5
>>82024784
Get rid of the trolls.
>>82024332
>he leaves the house without his buttplug
>>82024784
its Equius who comes back instead of Vriska
Vriska merges with AR instead
>>82024784
I retcon out the retcon
>>82024784
Make John fix everything but not by bringing Vriska back.
>>82024833
>The casino will never be avenged
Homestuck is a tragedy
>>82024784
Make game over the EOA6 and have ACT 7 be the SBAHJ moive
>>82024784
None of the shitty Beforus trolls show up, only their A2 versions.
>>82024784
no dream bubbles
>>82024784
No house juju. Practically anything else as the weapon would have been better.
I understand Grandpa Harley and Mom's knowledge of SBURB through discovering and developing it, but what about Bro? Why was he so seemingly knowledgeable about the game? Would it be safe to assume Dirk's heart powers extend to Bro allowing him knowledge of the game's nature?Or maybe he was Gamebro all along and somehow beat it with his bro, Dennis. That dude must have been so wasted, haha. Then he wrote a shitty review of it to convince Dave not to want to play because he actually really cares about him and all that gay shit.
>>82024784
Eridan actually figures out how to play the game.
>>82025026
he probably knew momor lil cal whispered shit to him
>>82025026
Maybe residual knowledge? Does Dirk's splinters work that far?
>>82024784
Dialog before act 7, and confirmed JohnRoxy. I'll even take Davekat if thats what I have to sacrifice for that to have happened.
>>82025026
Cal
So, where did lbgt go?
Last time she was here was just before Act 7
>>82025026
Lil Cal whispering in his ear.
>>82024851
>>82025086
that's two things numbnuts
>>82024728
not really
>>82024739
thats why they're teal, but i'm afraid to make it more busy
>>82024761
i might just do that
>>82025111
She left us behind for good
>>82024784
Bec Noir never goes to the Troll session, and remains the final boss.
>>82025138
>tfw I really liked the Joxy one
>>82024761
>fade
You mean, a gradient?
>>82025111
She has no reason to be here since she has no way to rile people up now, and thus can't really attention whore.
Well, but she'll be back with lies around the time the epilogue is about to hit.
So, has Vrisky Business been leaked yet?
>>82025189i'll try to get the one done too
but no promises
>>82025211
It isn't out till like July
>>82025217
Noice
>>82025026
>Or maybe he was Gamebro all along
That actually seems plausible
>>82025202
No, he means Feyd
Are there any comics/books/games with similar tones to MSPA that I can use to fill the void?
>>82025257
What is the difference between a fade and a gradient in this context?
>>82025273
Homestuck is basically Infinite Jest, Gravity's Rainbow, House of Leaves and YA novels thrown into a blender.
>>82025092
>>82025117
If that's true, I wish it was more evident in his personality. Dirk liked horses but Bro didn't seem a fan. Do you think Bro was secretly affiliated with ICP? It would make an amazing contrast to Dirk's Bro murdering the two leaders in Alphaverse.
>>82025247
I'd be pretty fucking surprised if this theory hadn't sprung up before.
>>82025273
Discworld
Earthbound and all its derivatives.
Psychonauts
Shonen mangas
>>82024784
The trolls only offer small, tidbits of snark advice and help to pre act 5 kids. Pretty much they fuck off and the story continues.
If still popular then the sequal/whatever time bullshit metaplot can show a legit Hive bent only.
>>82025138
>not really
I dunno. Its kinda that shirt just with Terezi added. Terezi with Striders seems to be a common theme
>>82025339
>Discworld
Was so happy that the TV show for that is still in production
>>82025453
>screencap from the flash shirts
i dont think those should be counted for anything
jade in gym shorts
>>82025504
Rose in gym shorts
>>82025515
dave in gym shorts
>>82025504
slightly pregnant jade in gym shorts doing a light workout to stay healthy
>>82025504
>>82025515
>>82025546
>>82025585
You can use your imagination.
>>82025556
THICC
>>82025583
unf
>>82025583
Oh hey that was my request
Shame KBS is out of homosuck
>>82025453
Except this shirt design sucks and Angel is making an actual cohesive design.
>>82025611
this is making me really thirsty for dave for some reason. thanks
>>82025504
>>82025515
Why not both?
>>82025691
Yes but with the gym shorts pulled down
why doesn't hussie just make cherub shirts?
>>82025453
Yeah they're incorporating the same characters but they are from the same thing. Angel's design compared to these others has a lot more thought put into color making it look far more dynamic and interesting to look at. Flat colors and scenes from Collide are pretty boring for a shirt.
>>82025730
Because he's a hack.
>>82025721
I chuckled.
>>82025453
>Using some of the worst art of the entire comic
For what purpose?
>>82025730
Caliborn makes suspenders look cool.
>>82025691
wanna break my hand spanking that jade booty
>>82025730
What, like Caliborn's Ophiuchus t-shirt? He sold that and a Calliope zipper hoodie.
Cherubs are never going to win these piece of shit popularity contests that keep churning out the blandest crowd-pleasers, tragically. Calliope made it onto a Hero of Space shirt once, and Lord English has a shot, but just the two young cherubs? Never flies.
Who is even going to BUY all these shirts anyway? There's like a million different designs.
>>82025583
I like the cleanness of this
>>82025978
do you think there's someone like that?
>there's someone who bought every single collide shirt
oh no
Caliborn was truly the best and he won in the end
>>82025978
Most (or all?) of them are made to order.
>>82025631
Damn shame really
>>82025978
they're not screen printed so they aren't losing any money making the designs available
digital printing one offs is cheap
all they would need is to make the money back needed to pay the artists and the person whos job it is to make the listings
>>82026066
Oh thank god.
>>82026043
>Escaped from a death trap by sacrificing his own leg
>Overcame intentionally absurdly tedious puzzles
>Beat a session that was never meant to be won
>Beat the strongest Denizen of all
>Matched wits with the creator of the Universe and eventually overthrew him
>When faced with an extreme lack of art skills, he overcame his limitations through sheer effort
Truly the best.
Anyone here got an album of some HS phone wallpapers?
>>82025978
Has anyone here bought any Homestuck merchandise?I bought a Terezi shirt five years ago and never wore it out of shame
I remember going to the Topatoco booth at SDCC in 2010, during Hivebent, and asking if they had any Homestuck stuff.
>Homestuck? What's that?
>Oh. MS Paint Adventures.
>No.
And then after NYCC 2010 I didn't go to a con again until last year, where I saw 2 Homestuck cosplayers. I feel like I seriously missed out.
>>82025972
It's a fucking shame, too.
The greatest character in Homestuck deserves more merch love.
>>82026232
I have all the books, including the Problem Sleuth ones. Never got any shirts though. I might get a Sepulchritude one, since I figure only true MSPA fans would recognize it, and it's got a cool design.
>>82026232
iirc, I have at least 13 HS shirts at this point, plus a Terezi dragon hood I can't specifically remember the name of.
Also got 3 posters and 2 sweaters.
I'll probably regret all of this in the coming future, but ehhh it's cool for now.
>>82026232
I bought a poster off of What Pumpkin once, but that was for a Gristmas present and I ended up just shipping it directly to them
>>82026448
Wicked!
>>82026232
2 godtier hoodies (one was a gift from hsg), 2 posters, first two books, sufferers necklace, breath blanket, copy of whistles and the sbahj book
all of my books are signed
i regret nothing
>livebloganon is gone
damn, that was like the only homestuck thing i was still interested in
I regret not volunteering to lead the dildo mission
Then I could've been Hussie's bestie instead of ipgd
>>82026739
Being Hussie's bestie is pointless. ipgd couldn't even get him to make davekat canon.
>>82026739
the dildo mission?
>>82026788
>he doesn't know
oh lord
Name an ending worse than Homestuck's
>>82026806
Ah shit, I must have missed something classic. What happened?
>>82026808
Mass effect 3, but not by much
>>82026828
We pooled a bunch of money to send Hussie the shittiest fake wolf head you ever saw, a giant blue horse dildo you can see in one of the Act 6 walk around, and a smaller candy corn dragon dildo for his girlfriend.
>>82026828
Back in... 2011, was it? HSG pooled together something like 400 dollars and bought Hussie a couple themed dildos (a big blue horse dick and a smaller candycorn one) from Bad Dragon. IPGD bought the dildos and sent them to him along with a shitty taxidermy wolf head, Tab, Gushers, and canned hamsteak. I'm probably missing something. It was a whole ordeal.
He later popped the blue blue horse dick in the comic as Horuss's fine art. It was a nice shout-out, since he hadn't acknowledged the gift at all until then and we were worried it took the massive horse penis poorly. What fools we were.
If someone had been willing to humor Caliborn and tell him they liked his art he probably would've kept making shitty art forever and never bothered anyone
>>82026975
Oh Christ, I forgot it included fake cum.
>>82026975
the intention for the ham was for it to be inappropriately timed. also we sent a flash drive with a bunch of thank you cards that hsg drew.
>>82027029
Just like Karkat
>>82026975
How did ipgd even get his address? Did halftruth give it to her willingly?
I remember the whole thing started when someone signed halftruth up for the bad dragon mailing list and instead of getting enraged like usual she found it funny and a welcome break from grief because her cat had just died. Then HSG decided to go all the way with the bad dragon thing.
>>82026975
I kind of want some Tab. I've never had any in my life.
>>82026975
Better picture of everything included
>>82026975
holy christ that is amazing
>>82027029
Sure did.
>>82027054
Yeah, Halftruth was just milling about our threads at the time (before SOMEBODY started a shitty meme that scared her off) so I think she just befriended ipgd before that happened.
>>82027036
I recalled the inappropriate ham. I think it was in the Gushers box?
And that's what I forgot. The whole thing was boxed and wrapped in personalized bar mitzvah wrapping paper, either addressed to Hussie or to Homestuck as a concept.
>>82027101
Do you have a shot of the wrapping paper? It was the icing on the cake.
>>82027084
You really dont
shit is awful
>>82027101
Do you think him or halftruth ever used the dildos?
>>82027054
the way ipgd said it, halftruth was scared that we would track them down and harass them if she didn't give ipgd their address. her fears were probably unfounded, but i think they moved not long afterwards
What if after all this posturing in the epilogue it turns out Jade is infertile
>>82027131
No I completely forgot about the wrapping paper
Fuck, that's hilarious
>>82027084
It's a slightly lemony Coke Zero. Pretty good, but nothing fancy. My sister's obsessed with the stuff.
>>82027171
Yeah, I figured it would be something like that.
>>82027166
Joss Whedon made infertility no longer cool. Jade will be having lots of coolkid bastards in the future.
>>82027155
>HSG thought it was being funny and nice
>actually they were terrified of us
>>82027101
>The super expensive mount the wolf head was put on
God, there were so many little touches. That was after things had turned pretty bad in /hsg/, but that was by far it's greatest moment.
>>82027214
if your some numale and tumblr whore, how do you react when a 4chan emissary comes knocking on your door?
What the fuck is Homestuck 2.0?
>>82024381
That's actually a pretty plausible idea. Would explain why it's blue as well, and nepeta made the rest of her cat outfit blue as well to have it match.
>>82027319
Basically, it's a TV show plus a youtube channel with more professionally produced content.
It's "the next phase of Homestuck"
Homestuck is now officially a franchise.
>>82027381
What, after Hussie completely destroyed all interest in it forever, even going so far as to kill anyone's ability to love what it used to be?
>>82027409
Yep. Isn't he a brilliant businessmanchild?
Is Dad a "Here John, I wanted you to have your first beer with me" dad or a "Son, you'll shame the Egbert/Crocker family name if you drink the devil's spit" dad?
I DON'T KNOW WHO THE FUCK YOU ARE BUT I KNOW THE TYPE OF PERSON YOU ARE
YOU'RE LIKE STEPHEN KING. WHEN I READ THE ENDING TO THE DARK TOWER, IT WAS LITERALLY
>LOL HE ENTERED THE TOWER SHOUTING PEOPLE'S NAMES
AND THEN HE HAS THE AUDACITY TO BERATE YOU FOR WANTING A SATISFYING CONCLUSION AND WANTING TO KNOW WHAT WAS SO IMPORTANT AND INTERESTING INSIDE. FUCKING BELITTLING YOU FOR HAVING CURIOSITY AND SPOUTING SOME BULLSHIT ABOUT HOW
>THE JOURNEY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE DESTINATION
WELL GUESS WHAT?!
YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG AND EVERYONE WHO THINKS LIKE THAT IS WRONG! THE POINT OF A JOURNEY IS TO GET TO A DESTINATION YOU WANTED BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULDN'T UNDERTAKE THE JOURNEY IN THE FIRST PLACE!
IF I FOLLOWED THAT LOGIC THEN MY GRANDFATHER WOULD'VE DIED MUCH EARLIER BECAUSE I WOULD'VE GONE FOR HIS INSULIN BUT INSTEAD OF GETTING TO THE PHARMACY, I WOULD'VE MET INTERESTING PEOPLE, AND HAD TEENAGE DRAMA PROBLEMS AND MAYBE GOT INTO A FIGHT, AND NEVER MADE IT TO MY DESTINATION, AND COME BACK A WISER MAN.
BUT GUESS WHAT?!
MY FUCKING GRANDFATHER WOULD'VE BEEN STILL DEAD BECAUSE I NEVER MADE IT TO MY FUCKING DESTINATION!
SO YES, I AM COMPARING THIS SHIT TO MY GRANDFATHER DYING BECAUSE IT'S METAPHORICALLY THE SAME THING. AND YOU'RE A PIECE OF SHIT IF YOU SUPPORT THIS.
The only thing. THE ONLY FUCKING THING that makes this all better is that I only joined the bandwagon a month ago. If I had invested more time in this, I would've felt bad. Now, NOW I can just go on with my life. But I feel so bad for other people, who ARE actually invested in this.
SON OF A MOTHERFUCKING FUCK I AM STILL FURIOUS!
>tfw toby fox's enormous proboscis vampirically siphoned away all of hussie's skill and ability and he used it to make himself a millionaire while hussie rots in the corner
>>82027472
DaveJade is the only good relationship in all of Homestuck, and here's why:
Both characters built on each other in a constructive way. Dave's primary issue is that he has to be the coolkid. In most conversations, he's perpetually defensive, trying to prove that he's really that cool. It's only with Jade (and Terezi, I suppose) that he's willing to drop the facade even a little. Yet nobody except Jade (and maybe Terezi, though it's hard to say what level of irony she was operating on) actually believes for a second that he is cool. The fact that Jade accepts it is what allows him to let his guard down while talking to her. She enables him to move out of his shell and become his own person.
On the other hand, Jade has enormous potential, but no one but Dave recognizes it. Rose mostly ignores her, except for when she wants a prediction, and John regards her as his silly friend but not a whole lot beyond that. Only Dave sees that, with some help, she could become something far greater than she is, and he dedicates a lot of time to helping her achieve that. Look at the client/server relationships: Rose is pretty hands-on with John, but is more concerned with figuring out the game mechanics than helping John out. Dave pretty much leaves Rose alone after she enters, since he knows she'd find being treated like she can't handle herself patronizing. John doesn't really get a chance to do anything with Jade beyond placing the initial entry equipment. But Dave spends a lot of time trying to help Jade figure things out and get situated.
Basically, Dave and Jade compliment and complete each other. No one else in Homestuck has that kind of relationship.
>>82027453
I can't see dad as much of a drinker.
Certainly not beer, anyhow.
Mint julep maybe
>>82027381
The TV show isn't gonna materialize. It'll just be shitty Youtube content. And you can bet the epilogue will be delivered that way, in tiny chunks.
>>82027545
>not a single pesterlog
>>82024381
I shit you not, this is the headcanon of everyone irl I've asked
>>82027557
>the entire TV show has no dialogue, spoken or written
>>82027585
>it's all done through interpretative dance
>>82027559
>talking about Homestuck irl
>>82027585
so it's Written By Rachel Rocklin?
>>82027604
>>82027585
>>82027545
>>82027381
>and davekat still is never, EVER canon
>>82027620
Yes.
>>82027487
I'm so proud my shitty essay became a copypasta
>>82027702
It's a good essay.
>wanting that worthless piece of shit Karkat in any relationship
He deserves eternal cuckolding.
Same with the dumb Spiderbitch.
>>82027747
>take a shot every time karkat and vriska are mentioned in the same post
>>82027734
I still think I was right, but I also think it sounds dumb as hell and I probably should have kept it to myself
But becoming an object of /hst/ mockery is as good a fate as any, I suppose.
>>82027773
>have a cooler full of UNDERTALE® brand Dr. Alphys™ lab-grown livers on hand to replenish participants who scar theirs irreparably
>>82027787
You were right. Dave/Jade is the original OTP, and it remains the best for good reasons.
Who do you guys want to narrate the epilogue? I'd enjoy Aradia but Calliope or Vriska seem the most likely.
>>82027831
Caliborn
>>82027831
*wwalks into epilogue
>>82027773
karkat vriska karkat vriska karkat vriska karkat vriska karkat vriska karkat vriska karkat vriska karkat vriska karkat vriska karkat vriska karkat vriska karkat vriska karkat vriska karkat vriska karkat vriska
>>82027787
You weren't right, in that you made the mistake of classic assuming Homestuck characters have personalities and flaws they need to grow beyond. Not in this meta anticlimax experimental arc-less Homestuck experience. However, beyond that initial mistake it's a pretty decent if a little shipping goggles-y analysis of a hypothetical character dynamic that would exist if they had character.
>>82027831
I want a multitude of different scenes, like in Problem Sleuth.
Karkat leading an interstellar battle somewhere, Dave rocking his dogdaughter to sleep, Aradia sitting in the ruins of reality vaguely happy, that sort of thing.
>>82027831
How about the person that's supposed to be narrating... Andrew Hussie?
>>82027885
This
Just have a bunch of scenes drawn by Hussie. No big arcs, just lots of "where are they now" stuff with pesterlogs for some extra closure. Then at the end give us a big finale scene like PS did.
>>82027831
Mituna
>>82027897
I wonder if it would be "ironically" condescending ("Wow, you guys really didn't understand my masterpiece? I have to explain everything to you chucklefucks" etc) or "ironically" hasty and rushed.
>>82027931
I can't believe we've reached the point where we don't want anything big or epic
>>82027973
Closure is more important than flashy flashes.
>>82027973
act 6 happened
>>82027973
Act 6 was "big" and it was fucking awful. Act 7 was "epic" and it made no fucking sense.
>>82027973
Collide and Act 7 was literally everything we could have dreamed of in terms of flashiness. Lack of "epic" sure as hell wasn't the problem.
>>82027992
>you'll never be squished against that Jade's titties
>>82027973
whatever the epilogue is won't fix the ending, so I couldn't care less about the content
>>82023592
I come to realization now, that Rachel/Ipgd was that person who knew about the updates, you know, MSPA updates tumblr or something. I also come to realization that this was a big ruse. Indeed, two phantoms born from A.H., nothing more to say.
>>82028071
I mean, the entire part of the ending that was bad was that it lacked any real character closure. Showing us what actually happens to them would fix things immensely.
>>82028098
>knew about the updates, you know, MSPA updates tumblr or something
what?
>>82028112
>I mean, the entire part of the ending that was bad was that it lacked any real character closure.
there's a bit more to it than that
>>82027831
dirk
>>82028098
Did you stroke out while writing this?
Killed by BR8K Spider implies such a great Jack/Vriska confrontation. Why did the music team execute so many things better than the actual comic?
>>82027485
tip top kek.
>Hussie could have handed game development over to Toby
>Hiveswap would have been about a grub (Frisky Newfag) and the characters in UT would be trolls/ancestors.
>Sans would be Doc Scratch, Flowey LE
>Hussie could have shared in Toby's success
>All he has now is a dad dad and a shattered fanbase.
>>82028154
Showing us the aftermath is really what it needs though. Character driven story with those characters ending at "They sat in a park for some reason" doesn't work well
>>82028192
>Killed by BR8K Spider was used in ministrife
Why did Sunslammer work so well in [s] Jade: Strife!!!!!!!!! but this didn't?
>>82024028
>hs changed the game in terms of what a webcomic was capable of
it didn't really do anything that huge as a comic itself, man. bunch of flash animations, gifs with text underneath, wowie. kid radd did what it did earlier, and there are lots of other examples of online-only webcomics.
what homestuck did change were the nature of fandoms...... a bad thing.
>>82028098
That person was just using some shitty web scraper. It's not something that makes good conspiracy material.
>>82024178
She's John's exclusive property, sadly, and everyone knows and acknolwedge it, herself included, so she's absolutely out of the market.Sadly. Gangbangs never. As it should be though.
>>82028297
All the good homestuck girls are taken
>>82028326
including the girls who aren't good at all
Can you dumb artists just make some SBaHJ shirts. That is the only homestuck garbage merch I want to put on my bod.
>>82028412
It's not a shirt, but there is some SBAHJ stuff in the contest.
>>82028242
>flash animation
>soundtracks produced specifically for HS
>replayable gifs
>playable walkaround text games
>characters within the comic taking control of the entire website, complete with changed colour scheme, icons, text, sound effects and music
>meta narrative including content literally breaking out of the set frame of the comic and expanding beyond your expectations
i was amazed and enthralled the first time that the set size of the panel expanded to take up more space on the website and show you a greater amount of content
this kind of shit is/was revolutionary, but seems ordinary after more than half a decade. but can you name another webcomic that has provided all this shit on the regular, FOR FREE no less? most other webcomics are like newspaper comics, doing their three static panels every few days of the week. fuck, back in the day it was VG cats doing the Still Alive flash, or the coconuts flash. i can't remember the last time a not-Homestuck webcomic put sound and animation into their panels.
>>82028405
Only one man could've been behind this.
>>82028486
He just said Kid Radd. The only thing Homestuck really innovated on was adding the playable walkaround flashes.
>>82023410
continuing reminder
1. lord english's 8-ball eyes would logically render him unbeatable, since if you sink the 8 ball you lose (unless you sink the other balls first, and the felt were just beat up, not killed or thrown into a black hole)
2. none of the glitches or loopholes said to be required to kill lord english were used in his supposed 'defeat'
3. we never see him lose
undeniable conclusion: lord english wins, kills everyone, continues stomping reality to death
>>82028486
hopefully someone will take hussie's innovations and use them to tell a good story
>>82028532
Well yeah of course. Why else would one of the last images we see in the ending flash be Caliborn's ultimate triumph?
>>82027875
I'm sure Act4 Hussie thought he would drop the veneer of irony and actually make it a coming of age story with real arcs. He kind of almost did that in Act6 by taking teenage romance at face value instead of making fun of it like he did with the trolls. If the new kids spent a quarter of their screen time with less drama bullshit, overcame it and did some cool things of their own before the original 4 kids showed up while also developing all the kids on the meteor and ship there could have actually been a satisfying buildup. I dont give a shit that everyone survived, I wouldnt even be upset if any or all of them died.
>>82028574
if you think webcomic authors have that kind of drive you have another thing coming
>>82024784
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>>82028518
>John "Slay Away the Gay" Egbert
>John "No Mo Homo" Egbert
>John "Empty a Mag into a Fag" Egbert
>John "Cocksucker Crusher" Egbert
>John "Dyke Destroyer" Egbert
>John "Bury the Fairy" Egbert
>John "Slay a Gay Every Day" Egbert
>John "Fuck a Troll, Your Head Will Roll" Egbert
>John "Greyskin Genocider" Egbert
>>82028622
>I dont give a shit that everyone survived, I wouldnt even be upset if any or all of them died.
it would have been better if some of them died, death got trivialized way too much
>>82028678
Death loves playing Trivial Pursuit, though.
>>82028678
That was one of the big problems with Homestuck. Everyone but the protagonists has already died, so they can't fight for their homes or whatever, and the protagonists have a fancy afterlife that makes it hard to care if THEY die.
Dreambubbles were a mistake.
>>82028486
>but can you name another webcomic that has provided all this shit on the regular, FOR FREE no less?
kid radd
fucking newgrounds, even.
>>82028732
Hussie should have alluded to an actual afterlife that the guardians, carapacians, and the rest went after double death. Also make dreambubbles more hellish. He got close by showing (Vriska) turn into a shadow of herself because you atrophy in them and you go to weird dark caravals because caliborn's memory is in them for some reason even though he never died (the caliborn that lost to altCaliope wouldnt have memories of the treasure room after yagobogger).
>>82028659
I'm really relieved the ending didn't take this meme away from us. I was braced for the full on gay singularity.
>>82028574
If it were that easy to come up with and maintain what Hussie had with Homestuck, no one would have valued it in the first place. Like the last acts, it would probably be like a pale afterimage if someone tried.
>>82026169
Why is Caliborn so perfect? Is it because he's underrated both in-game and out of it or something else?
>>82028825
I think there should have been absolutely no afterlife whatsoever, full stop. It'd make the time player deaths a hell of a lot more tragic.
Failing that, though, the afterlife should have stayed out of the story like it was supposed to: http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005389
>>82028868
Caliborn is one of the only viewpoint characters that was as sick of Hussie's shit as the fanbase.
First time in this thread in forever.
Homestuck is trash, hussie is a hack, and The Mayor is the only good character
>>82028928
>liking a meme character
kys mm
>>82028949
>implying any other character is worth liking.
I bet you think hussie is a good writer too?
>>82028928
>The Mayor
You can already spot the baiting newfag.
>>82028992
Calborn is worth liking
When was the last time WV was called WV and not "the Mayor"?
>>82029045
When Terezi called him Dave and Karkat's "sidekick" I think she referred to him as the mayor.
>>82029080
No, you got it backwards. I was asking when he was last referred to as "Wayward Vagabond" or even "WV".
And for what it's worth, I checked, and the answer is this page in Act 5: http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005313
where do i go for big butt homestuck pictures
>>82029045
you mean the wwaywward vvagabond?
>>82029120
how big are we talking?
>>82029140
BIG. FAT. SWEATY. BUTTS.
>Karkat is my favorite character!
Please explain why.
>>82029158
alright anon, just for you!
>>82029241
I'm pretty sure Karkat is the second most popular character after Dave.
He's a cutie.
Buckle up, homestucks.
>>82029293
holy fuck its monodid you like the ending
>>82029252
>post-act 5 homestuck fanbase
Yeah, as a shitty mascot and retarded shipping tool.
>>82029131
yes, the vwvwwayvwvward vwvwagabond
>>82029321
I did!It was very nice to see a homestuck flash actually animated. The open ended ending was very nice since it allows for further discussion. All in all I think it's probably the best way it could have ended.
>>82029249
that butt is not big
>>82029370
Filtered.
>>82029370man that is a dangerous opinion to have, the reaction here was pretty negative.its good to see that some people enjoyed it though
not going to lie i was pretty crushed with it being open ended but the animation was beautiful
>>82029241
Who?
>>82029370
>caring about animation quality in a webcomic hosted on a site called "ms paint adventures" instead of plot holes or unfulfilled characters turned into jokes
>>82029411
nice
>>82029447
I wasn't around for the final opinion. I still can't believe that it was an actual animation though, it felt like a fever dream watching it.
Aradia best troll girl and Jade best human girl.
>>82029486
That can't be right, Roxy is best human girl.
>>82029483
right?
the girl who did this video was the one who did it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKfP9N28buk
>>82029486
Best Boy: John
Best Girl: Jade and Roxy
Best Troll Boy: Sollux
Best Troll Girl: Aradia
Best Memelord: Eridan
Best Villain: Caliborn
We can all agree with this list.
>>82029486
you just listed second best troll and last best human
Roxy is best human girl and Vriska is best troll girl
>>82029549
But Vriska is worst troll girl. Even fucking Feferi is better.
>>82029549
>Vriska
>best
>>82029509
Roxy is great too.
>>82023527
>>82023680
Just for you my friend
>>>/aco/498114
>>82029571
>>82029572
dont h8, m8s
>>82029549
>last best human
>not jane
>not jake
come on anon
>>82029522
Oh shit I didn't know that! I always loved that animation.
what are the kids like in bed
>>82029653
She did a fantastic job. I don't blame her for the ending being shit, I 100% blame Hussie
>>82024282
we need to redefine your definition of "obvious"
What's the consensus on there being another MSPAdventure after Hiveswap and the Epilogue?
Is it possible or is Huss really finished after this?
Anybody hear about that you-know-what post about Dante Basco
Apparently he MOST DEFINITELY is working with Hussie to get Homestuck 2.0 or something like it on the air, and he's also trying to set up a Youtube channel
What happened to Erisolsprite?
Where's the updates?
>>82029736
>joined the Homestuck creative team to bring the series to Hollywood
no
fuck no
>>82029649
man dirk/jake was such a surreal part of the comic
does anyone have that compilation of hsg's extreme denial of dirk being gay?
>>82028532
LE has been kind of a symbol for the looming end of the story. Funny that him getting properly disposed of turned out to be just too nonfactual to animate.
>>82029736
end my fucking life
>>82029729
zero
I don't think huss is done creating stuff, but I think he's done with MSPA
>>82023410
Someone summarize what the fuck happened in that flash. I have no idea how lord english just stopped existing suddenly.
>>82029934
Fuck I left the tripcode from the Overseer thread in /v/ on
>>82029533
Agreed
>>82029945
They sunk the 8-ball at the end of the game, duh.
>>82029945
There is no "this is fact" about him, just countless headcanons.
Mine is, that the logo transports the target to the start of their adventure in the story of homestuck, since it's so meta, and this could've happend to the beta kids in a non-retcon timeline.
Meaning LE is trapped in a timeloop and retcon shit maybe saved the beta kids from that trap
>>82029920
>All those homophobic John reactions
It's as if the memes write themselves.
>>82028192
>1-2 days to make a good track
>2 weeks - 6 months to make a good flash
Short turn around times mean more experimentation. Sure there were some good tracks, but there are a lot of shit ones too
>>82029945
the house juju was a metaphisical whatshit for the comic itself.
when Caliborn trapped the kids in it, he unwittingly made them the main characters of the comic. When John used it, he gained the power to change anything in the comic.
When Vriska used it on him, it bound LE to the comic forever, meaning he can never travel to any universe not depicted by the comic, and it let the gets escape the comic, letting them do all the other things they needed to do safe from LE ever finding them.
>>82030033
That's bullshit. They didn't escape the scope of the comic because the universe and planet they escape to ends up being where caliborn is born anyway.
>>82030054
But the story did literally end, when Johns hand connected with the door
>>82030033
I took it as more that because he was trapped in the comic and because the comic was imminently ending that he was about to end as well.
>>82030054
same planet but taken to a different universe, making it 'out of bounds' from that point on
>>82029913
>>82029934
Well, it's basically word of mouth from somebody who claims to have talked to Basco, so take it with a grain of salt
Reminder that /v/ is playing Sburb on Overseer Project RIGHT NOW
>>>/v/334900317
>>82028532
>1
The other balls were his worlds from his session, not the felt. The felt were the symbol of his victory over those worlds, not the symbol of his immortality.
>2
Technically using ghosts is a loophole, since they're no longer part of the game. Plus they throw the juju at him, which he says himself is some gamebreaking shit
>3
Kinda. It's strongly hinted that Caliborn's Masterpiece is him losing, but it's a real clusterfuck no matter how you look at it
>>82030012
oh i found it
dirks name hadn't even been revealed yet
>>82030068
Caliborn is still born on earth in universe C, which is where they're headed. It isn't out of bounds because that's where he gets fucking born.
>>82030075
Why was everyone in this comic so fucking gay? Kinda took away from it in a big way.
>>82030082
they're heading to universe D
>>82030072
This is just barely not an image for ants.
Seems like Dante doesn't understand this fandom is dead as fuck. The chances of any large scale fan projects getting off the ground now of all times is basically nil.
I'm not too concerned about the "Homestuck TV" thing either. I think/hope the mess Hiveswap turned into will have made Hussie more cautious about getting involved in shit like that.
>>82030112
>Universe D
>>82030096
to fuck with people that don't like gays.
every single 'why was X?' question, the answer is 'to fuck with people who don't like X'
why jade was a furry, why trolls have shipping quadrants, why Vriska
>>82029533
>Best Troll Boy: Sollux
>literally the most annoying speech quirk
>did literally nothing except move the comet lab once
The only troll boys worth a damn were Karkat, Equius and Eridan, and all of them were made into jokes because Hussie couldn't stand trolls other than his waifus taking the spotlight
>>82030074
>The other balls were his worlds from his session
there was an 8-ball world that he knocked in last
>>82030112
>universe D
>>82030075
Those poor saps. If only they knew what was to come.
>>82024203
I don't think he actively tried not to offend people at that point, but I do suspect that that was the point where he decided to stop talking to us
>>82026077
Any more to this?
>>82030154
they kind of deserved it
the idea of one of the human character being gay seemed to freak them out, i dont think rose and kanaya had started dating at that point in the comic. dirk was going to be the only one at that moment excluding the trolls being bisexual
>>82030204
Some of them seemed like they were projecting. I wonder if they did any self reflection afterwards.Probably not though.
>>82030096
>>82030204
>like 3% of the population is gay
>there are 8 humans in the whole story
>at least 3-4 of them are gay
what the FUCK
>>82028532
adding 4. caliborn is the only 'player' of the game not directly created by the game itself. this indicates that caliborn is, in fact, the true player of the game, and thus the intended winner
>>82030247
dont worry it's just a phase
>>82030247
They're clones of each other, so...
>>82030256
Were the Beforus trolls also created by the game?
>>82030276
>Being gay is genetic
uh
Is there ANY new information on the game? Any at all? Even an employee's "it's doing good! <3" would be fine
>>82030247
0% of the population can teleport
makes you think, huh
>>82030290
Yes. Karkat states he thought the extra grubs he made with ectobiology were useless.
>>82030247
Honestly, the Dave is gay/bi thing really surprised me. I didn't think Dave to swing that way. Didn't he even make slightly homophobic comments in the earlier acts?
Also, I never really got the feeling that Jake is gay. It kinda just always felt like Jake was forced to be in a relationship with Dirk, when he just really wanted to bone Jane.
>>82030307
No.
The fact that they nuked the MSPA forums and they have no intention of reopening them might be a red flag.
>>82030303
Well, how else would it propagate? The only question is, how are you going to be able to convince a homosexual to reproduce?
>>82030290
Paradoxically they were created by Karkat in the A2 session. This was that "subtle glitch" thing Doc Scratch mentioned.
>>82030247
>have close friend group of about 8 people
>4 of them are gay
>2 are bisexual
>1 is trans and bisexual
>only 1 is straightbut says he's still considering
i know thats like out of the ordinary but it happens
gay singularity
and these are the people that would be in my sburb session
>>82030321
Jake never wanted to bone Jane. the only person he ever wanted to bone was Aranea
>>82028532
>>82030074
>>82030144
You're all retarded. Look at this page. When you knock in an 8-ball, you destroy the universe. But the kids were about to escape into a new universe, and everything was going into the black hole anyway.
>>82030321
It's a standard rule that anyone who is masculine or homophobic is actually just secretly gay themselves. To break this trope would be a cardinal sin.
>>82030328
the whole company is a red flag
>>82030342
that kind of just makes it sound like you have a massive predisposition to non-straights instead of everyone else being anti gay
>>82030321
I felt the same. Davekat came out of nowhere for me. It was pretty clear they couldn't stand each other before the retcon. Even Johnkat made more one-sided sense. Dave suddenly being interested in guys felt forced and that "coming out" talk was painful to read. It just felt forced.
And I got the feeling Jake was just dragged along. He himself even states he wasn't sure but tried anyways because Jane thought it was a good thing if he explored the possibility.
It's kind of telling all his beauties are blue females, not blue males.
>>82030355
snowman isnt LE
>>82024047
Alternia
>>82030073
Jesus christ this is gold, any of you guys in here?
>>82030329
As a genetic error
>>82030321
Dave being gay/bi is one of those things where it's both a joke and also slightly true at the same time. Dave doesn't really have one of those things that tells you not to say stupid/secret shit, so if he's thinking about dicks or getting absolutely IMBIBED by puppet proboscis, he's going to tell you about it, although he's probably going to rephrase it so it sounds ironic.
That Jake thing is probably true, although he didn't really know what he wanted, other than to have a bunch of bros to hang out with that WEREN'T after his chode
>>82030337
There are 4 sets of trolls. In both sessions, 2 sets of trolls are created through ectobiology shenanigans.
Except the order is reversed in the second session
>>82030366
Dave and Karkat became super best friends in the pre-retcon before the meteor arrive. Did you even read the comic?
>>82024047
Pick a track, any track.
>>82030329
They didn't have a big enough gene pool to last past several generations to begin with.
I'm thinking ectobiology on random people they lock on to. Probably a couple historical figures too.
>>82030355
Snowman only destroys "the" universe that she corresponds to by being their exiled BQ, the one we saw specifically destroyed Alternia.
If LE is the 8-ball of his session and will destroy the universe Caliborn originated from, then New Earth is still fucked because he got his start in the far-flung future of it.
>>82030365
>you have a massive predisposition to non-straights instead of everyone else being anti gay
i dont think everyone else is anti gay
and the people im friends with just happened to be that way. i wouldn't avoid being friends with someone because they're straight
its just silly to be mad about the percentage of the homestuck kids being gay because of population statistics is all
>>82030329
>how are you going to be able to convince a homosexual to reproduce?
ectobiology. Hussie explained this years ago. you can make valid children of any pairing with ectobiiology. You could make a child of Typheus and Serenity with Ectobiology if so inclined
>>82030386
genetic error implies there's is a 'correct' arrangement, which is impossible since organic life was a chemical accident to begin with
>>82023653
I don't think I could enjoy rereading it because going through my favourite part was questions being raised which got me thinking "how's that getting resolved", and knowing a lot of them don't get resolved would be disappointing, but that's an issue of what's not there. What is there I like a lot.
>>82030385
Post screencaps from the chat.
>>82030409
The Beforus trolls didn't have ectobiology in their session.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005953
>>82030439
They didn't even take any ectobiology equipment with them. RIP humanity.
>>82030072
at this point i just feel bad for dante. he just seems like a genuinely nice guy who had fun with the comic (given that he was literally in it it would have been quite the experience) and would like to use his connections to pay back for the nice time he had.
>>82030482
It's on the meteor. Which is on Earth.
Pay attention.
>>82030385
I'm in
>>82030355
>Vriska was the 8-ball
>that's why the pre-retcon timeline was doomed
FUCK
Mayor a best
>>82030602
Thats bullshit and a lame excuse. Why not have a dead Vriska open the damn thing.
>>82030454
Oh, you're right
>These twenty-four figures of legend were not of this world but sent from the sky, delivered from a reality not yet conceived.
Wait, was it ever specified if prototyping something like a cartoon character causes the powerlevel from the cartoon to carry over? I always imagined only the real and physical aspects carrying over like for example, prototyping a Goku actionfigure would only take the aesthetic and looks of the fictional character
>>82030632
still the best
>>82030671
Whoops, meant for >>82030479
I'm amazed by the level of denial of the crazy hard fans.
They're starting to make elaborate theories that, instead of pretending the ending was okay, are using the shitty end as evidence of some meta bullshit which in retrospect makes Homestuck a "masterpiece".
Apparently there's people who believe that all the loose ends, unfinished arcs and inconclusive <everything> is DELIBERATE but not as an act of being unable to tie everything together. They believe that things don't have to make sense anymore because the kids are escaping the narrative and they're unstuck from the rules of the comic so who cares if it fills the comic with plot holes.
SERIOUSLY, THESE PEOPLE ARE ARGUING THAT HOMESTUCK IS GREAT BECAUSE IT HAS PLOT HOLES. This kind back-assward reasoning because you're unable to accept that Hussie was tired with the comic and he didn't care anymore, so he just finished the damn thing without giving a damn about anything, is amazing and sad at the same time.
>>82030672
Prototyping a frog statue did indeed create a frog sprite.
>>82030432
Nah, it's pretty natural, actually. In fact, it's pretty dumb of you to say all this.
Because there's less of a chance of it happening, there has to be a reason why the author chose to write it that way. And, well, everyone with half a brain already knows why, hence why people are mad.
Hussie is just one among a number of other internet webcomic artists who've fallen. Artists who've deleted their past works for being "too offensive" and such. Hussie's wit and humor were ruined, and HS suffered as a result.
>>82030676
>the mayor is a real mayor of a real town now
If there's at least one good thing that came from this, it was that
Link to the reaction thread on 4/13? Can't find it on desustorage.
>>82030355
>When you knock in an 8-ball, you destroy the universe
lord english wasn't in a universe when the final confrontation happened
he was in paradox space
>>82030693
>it's natural to be mad about gays
>>82030693
Maybe he and these other webcomic artists just wanted it to be that way
>>82030724
Actually, where the fuck was everyone else?
We know that some humans other than the 4 kids played SBurb, and there may have been other races out there that played it too. So why do we only see the ghosts of the 24 trolls and the kids? (and one Calliope)
>>82030693
>Because there's less of a chance of it happening
yeah well the chances of a video game destroying the planet are pretty slim too
its not like the kids are meant to represent all of humanity either, theres absolutely no reason to give any shits what percentage of them are what orientation. they just are
>its pretty natural, actually
lol, hey man im sorry about where ever you live where thats natural
>>82030693
>Because there's less of a chance of it happening, there has to be a reason why the author chose to write it that way. And, well, everyone with half a brain already knows why, hence why people are mad.
lmao why are you getting mad because he made more of his characters in a webcomic gay than is statistically probable
"hussie ur distorting reality to pander to gays" is he also distorting reality by misrepresenting the percentage of people who are 13 years old, or who have such-and-such kind of a relationship with their parents, or who live in such-and-such part of the world
>>82030765
the kids and the trolls were the only ones from Eath that reached the incipisphere
>>82030765
the dreambubbles were a unique thing Feferi asked the Horrorterrors to set up for their fucked up conjoined session fiasco.
>>82030765
None of the other players made it into the medium.
>>82030779
Or become gods
Or destroy the universe
Or fuck with ayylmaos
Or fight evil green skellingtonheads.
>>82030798
The 48 player session that created Alternia/Beforus did, though.
>>82030690
You know whats even worse? ipgd reblogged one of these theory posts so Hussie is probably getting fed all this bullshit about the ending being genius.
>>82030779
ugh I cannot BELIEVE hussie was implying that all humans are 13 year old white kids from america who have internet access and play videogames
>>82030798
>Fedorafreak
>>82030321
My initial problem with Dave being bi is that it felt exactly like Jake coming out, but now that I've accepted it I feel it makes more sense for Dave to be bi than for Jake (from a narrative standpoint of course, having a certain sexuality doesn't need justification).
Dave has spent a big part of the comic doing gay jokes. Him having a repressed lust for the dick isn't that far-fetched. I myself think it would have been much nicer if we found out about this earlier in the comic instead of this being revealed in the pre-epilogue (I still can't believe how terribad was that huge bunch of conversations, at least as a concept), but for the character himself it's fine.
In this sense, Jake's case is the opposite. We found out pretty early about his inclinations, but in my opinion the justification they got was pretty weak. He started as a completely straight character (from our perspective) who liked girls in movies and shit, and then it turns out he's considering to date Dirk because he's... really open minded and likes adventure, and he doesn't see why Dirk being a guy would matter in their relationship? This feels so wrong. "We're so BROS that we end up being a couple" is just so wrong, that doesn't happen. Gender and sexuality are important, and Jake has always been presented as that straight guy who doesn't care if Dirk is a man. I don't know, it feels weak. I might be projecting though.
>>82030342
>>82030693
Gay people tend to have gay friends. Groups of friends are never a statistical representation of reality, because they're obviously always skewed.
If the kids were all caucasian would you also be mad because that's a gross misrepresentation of the statistical percentage of races?
>>82030829
and we saw them.
If we go purely by class names the pairings are prince/bard, knight/page, heir/maid and mage/witch
It falls apart at sylph/seer because while all other pairs have something in common, sylphs are some fucking water spirits and seers are just people who see things
>>82030849
i mean, you're being sarcastic, but
if you walked away from homestuck thinking "i can't believe hussie was implying the world population is like 50% gay," you're some kind of retarded
>>82030862
I thought the kids /were/ all caucasian.
Or rather, all literally white, anyway. Not that it matters. I've still cosplayed Dave and Eridan as a definitely neither white nor grey person.
>>82030849
hell I've never had access to a closed beta in my entire life
>>82030862
I think the Jake thing had a lot to do with his aspect and was just one way to demonstrate it; aka Hope being about endless possibilities and such. Think what you think about it, but that revelation at least tied in with his theme.
>>82030873
We don't know all the possible classes, or even all the possible elements
We only have a barebones understanding of the game itself
Dirk's actual sexuality didn't matter as long as tumblr wasn't happy. They are just as disappointed by Homestuck as we are, so who gives a shit anymore what the characters were?
>>82030779
why are you engaging in battle with 4chan
its not natural to have that many gay characters unless it serves some purpose
what purpose is it in hussie's case? it seems like pandering. if he was a creator of gay porn, it'd seem like he had a different purpose.
>>82030829
When did we find out about the session that created the troll race?
>>82030883
Hussie said that he sometimes thought of John and Jade as asian. Honestly that's how I saw them since I live in the same area John does and there's a lot of asians living in the pacific northwest.
>>82030903
>in battle with 4chan
>its not natural to have that many gay characters unless it serves some purpose
>>82030834
Well fuck, I've just read that and it's complete horseshit.
>THE COMIC ENDED ABRUPTLY ON PURPOSE.
>WE DIDN'T SEE THE CHARACTER ARCS BECAUSE THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF THE COMIC AND THEY'RE <REAL PEOPLE>.
>THE END DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SATISFYING BECAUSE IT'S META.
>That's why we're getting an epilogue, because the ending was a fucking masterpiece and it wasn't incomplete at all.
THE DENIAL.
>>82030903
>its not natural to have that many gay characters unless it serves some purpose
uhh
>literally porn of LE and adult Calliope
How? Their species is designed around choking on each others snakes' then dying
>>82030903
>its not natural to have that many gay characters unless it serves some purpose
>its not natural to have four of the kids be blonde unless it serves some purpose
>its not natural to have six of the kids live in the US unless it serves some purpose
>its not natural to have five of the kids use proper weapons (gun, sword) whereas three of them use household items (cutlery, knitting needles, hammer) unless it serves some purpose
>>82030903
>its not natural to have that many gay characters unless it serves some purpose
Not every part of a character's personality has to serve some greater purpose. Eridan was a history buff. Dave liked taxidermy. None of these things were ever important.
>>82030958
>then dying
not true
>>82030910
It's implied.
Earth has 12 star-signs because of the 12 Beta Trolls. The Trolls have 48 star-signs.
>>82030958
The poWEar
Of BONERSSS!!!!11!!!!!
>>82030962
Dave liked taxidermy, at least originally, to help characterize him having trouble with death and dying. It is also why he was so heavily associated with crows.
>>82030717
but it isn't because who cares
>>82030982
And Dave was a closet bisexual to help characterize him about his troubles with heroism and masculinity.
>>82030903
>its not natural to have that many gay characters unless it serves some purpose
i mean, considering the complete uniqueness of the social context in which each character in homestuck grows up, why is it so hard to believe that they would have a different attitude toward sex, sexuality, and sexual expression?
like, what if you only ever knew and talked to 3 people for a large part of your life? and you grew up only ever talking to them online, never in person. wouldn't that change your attitude toward interpersonal relationships, cause you to value the verbal and emotional parts of interaction more so than the material/physical? (it's implied they have no other friends, and probably don't go out much)
also, their entry into sburb pretty much coincides with their entry into puberty, so they were undergoing their sexual maturation in this new universe where they had no real models for who should love whom, and instead simply relied on one another for all the emotional validation they needed
i feel like this is actually an interesting topic to look into and discuss but people are too busy either mindlessly accepting it or mindlessly resisting it with their whole being
>>82031012
I actually thought Dave might have turned out to be bi before Act 4 ended so I don't personally have any fundamental objection to this, I just hate every aspect of the execution.
>>82030929
i always wonder if those posts getting mad about social opinions on this board are supposed to be making revelations
>>82030955
do you think most authors write stories where half the characters are gay?
i know there's all these fan circles where plenty of famous characters are thought to be definitely gay but i only have faint knowledge of them.
>>82031038
>I just hate every aspect of the execution
What, are you telling me you didn't like Dave literally spouting a blog post about sexuality and gender models out of nowhere in what was supposed to be a casual conversation?
>>82031051
>do you think most authors write stories where half the characters are gay?
No, but why does it matter? It's not relevant to the discussion.
>>82028521
>>82028821
Kid Radd was rad as hell, but it wasn't really popular enough to be remembered except as a cult classic, and the purpose was more being able to read it on dial-up with an unusual way the panels worked than straight-up innovating the way webcomics were.
Still, it was pretty revolutionary too. But most things that do something cool and are acknowledged had somebody before them who did that exact same thing but wasn't noticed. I guess you could call it "bleeding edge" in some ways.
The point is, just because somebody did this thing before, I don't think that doing the same thing while it's still not well-known can't be called innovation. I think making something mundane can sometimes be as much of an achivement as inventing something. And we're not really sure if Hussie read Kid Radd, or if it was an example of convergent evolution.
I just sometime wish that this piece of shit fandom didn't get so stuck on the trolls and game-style that was iconic to Homestuck anyway. This just makes them look lazily copied. I hope eventually people will instead learn to change the way they view webcomics and innovate on that rather than just copying the specifics. There are occasional good examples, even from those who copied a lot from MSPA style, but they are overall relatively rare.
In the end, ironically, Kid Radd was overall more rewarding than Homestuck, because it actually kept up its quality and didn't raise the expectations to the skies. But yet, I enjoyed Homestuck a lot more... until the ending, at least. I think the last major thing I loved in it was actually Terezi's final flash. After that I didn't really care that much.
>>82030862
>Groups of friends are never a statistical representation of reality, because they're obviously always skewed.
this
though i kind of disagree with the jake thing, i think his reasoning fit him pretty well. he never grew up in a social setting where sexuality mattered. Him being open to idea of dating dirk worked in that it was something he probably didn't see a whole lot of in his movies but couldn't find a reason why not. Trying something he wasn't familiar with especially for the sake of his friend's feelings is pretty in tune with jake being adventurous and obtusely considerate of people around him. if jane had asked him out first he probably wouldve said yes, or even roxy.
For a dude who grew up alone, when one of the 3 people he's actually going to see in his life asks him to be in a relationship, and that person is the one of 3 he cares most about, its makes sense he'd say yes. them having a dick seemed pretty low on the 'reasons not to do this' list
>>82030862
I'm straight but I'd put my dick in Dirk any day of the week. Jake making him an exception didn't come to a surprise for me.
>>82031092
>I'm straight BUT
>>82031075
So we have a situation like Anno vs Tomino or Watchmen's visual storytelling vs Ditko's work. Homestuck gets tons of popular credit for "revolutionizing" something an older piece of media did both earlier and better.
>>82031092
>I'm straight but I'd fuck a guy
>>82031122
>>82031130
If you can't admit that you have a few exceptions then you're probably uncomfortable with your sexuality.
>>82031130
It ain't gay unless you're the one catching instead of pitching.
>>82031012
this, how is dave's sexual confusion not totally believable in the context of his weird fucked-up upbringing by bro?
think about it. you grow up in a world where, in movies, books, music ('specially rap), you basically learn that homosexuality is an undesirable thing, or it's less "manly." how could you not? we've got a hundred words in the english language for one concept: pussy, sissy, faggot, fairy, etc
you've got this older bro, who's aloof & is constantly engaging you in physical combat, threatening your masculinity—basically antagonizing you with his physical superiority. you're grateful that he raised you, but you also kind of avoid him, maybe even fear him, just because of how much he keeps you on your toes. so what are your associations with masculinity then?
not to mention all the fucking phallic imagery. if the sword isn't a convincing enough phallic image for you, what about the literal puppet cocks that assail him left and right.
how do dave's feelings about bro not get caught up in his own feelings about masculinity? both his own masculinity, how he "measures up" as a man, and also masculinity in other guys, whether he feels comfortable with them, talking to them, opening up to them.
literally the only other male figure in dave's life is john, who's totally different: he's the same age as him, which means the power dynamic is different. he's not aloof and emotionally distant; he's actually goofy and super sincere. you're best "bros," and you know if you wanted to, you could open up to him about anything.
so you've got these two male figures in your life: bro and john.
i ask again: is dave's sexual confusion that unbelievable?
>>82031139
that's not how any of that works my sweet confused child
>>82031139
whatever you say, bislut
>>82031069
the point is that it contributed to the comic seeming like hussie started writing it to fit certain internet sensibilities. and then he started suggesting davekat, which couldn't come off as anything but pandering.
in between the jakedirk plot, which wasn't too bad, and davekat we fell into a morass of teen conversations that hussie couldn't write. if he had placed the teen romance stuff into a sideplot and continued with the content from acts 1-4 he probably could have kept a better handle on the story.
its not really important but some people want to believe in an anti-gay conspiracy.
Someone post the pic with HSG danger levels. You know, the one with "unironic gender discussion" or what not
>that sburb rp thread on /v/
even when i think ive seen everything... i havent
>>82031128
Don't know much about either of those examples.
In any case, yes, probably. It's just the way world works. I think in many ways Homestuck was more bold with this stuff than Kid Radd, though, but it was also part of the reason it didn't work so well.
In the end Hussie couldn't keep up with escalation, both of panels/flashes and of story. Remember when he said that he purposefully drew panels quickly with copy-pasted sprites so that he wouldn't forget the story? And how much of the final act was guest artists? They were drawn shoddily, but they were technically a lot more effort to do than Hussie's earlier and cleaner panels, since coordinating people is hard, and they all just drew it in a traditional way, instead of cutting corners like Hussie did, which is more effort and probably longer to accomplish. I wonder if he did it that way because he felt if he returned to the manner early panels were people would feel underwhelmed, and he couldn't work on fancy panels as quickly as he felt he would need to.
Or maybe I'm wrong and he just got sick of working on it and he decided to make the least possible effort to get it all done. Possible too.
>>82031147
honestly dave being bi/gay is one of the least surprising things all things considereddo you write fanfic btw? i like how much thought you put into this, i think you'd be really good at writing fics
>>82031194
this seems pretty chill honestly
and its actually about the comic this time
>>82031173
Whatever man. At least I won't have a identity crisis if I see a dude that's legitimately attractive. I like girls overwhelmingly but I can admit when I'd get down with a small handful of guys. I guess that makes me like 95% straight and 5% gay? Anyone saying they're 100% straight is just lying to themselves.
>>82028532
>1. lord english's 8-ball eyes would logically render him unbeatable, since if you sink the 8 ball you lose (unless you sink the other balls first, and the felt were just beat up, not killed or thrown into a black hole)
sinking the 8 ball destroys the universe but they were leaving that universe
>2. none of the glitches or loopholes said to be required to kill lord english were used in his supposed 'defeat'
Actually first they mention only glitches could defeat lord English, then they mention a dominant Calliope would only happen due to a glitch in spacetime, and then exactly that happens, and then she, a glitch, is the one that destroys the green sun and creates the black hole that traps English.
>3. we never see him lose
we see something rush from the juju door, a weapon said to be usable against him, towards him, after which he isn't seen again, then that something rushes back to the door, all in first person.
>>82031181
>pandering
Have you considered that he might have other reasons?
His circle of friends is mostly people from the webcomic scene, which is really in tune with that line of beliefs. What if his worldview has been shaped by it, and he genuinely wants to add gay characters in his comic instead of doing it to vaguely pander some sectors of the fandom?
Hell, what if he realized he's bisexual and this is his way of dealing with this revelation?
Not everything that includes gay people is tumblr pandering. If there's people with those beliefs to be pandered, is it really that difficult to understand that there might be people producing content with those beliefs too?
I think Hussie was being genuine with the gay singularity, and he definitely wasn't pandering. The execution was shit, but that's all.
>the /v thread got deleted
motherFUCK
>>82031260
>Actually first they mention only glitches could defeat lord English, then they mention a dominant Calliope would only happen due to a glitch in spacetime, and then exactly that happens, and then she, a glitch, is the one that destroys the green sun and creates the black hole that traps English.
How are doomed timelines "a glitch", when those are overwhelmingly common and make up of >90% of the universes?
>>82024784
Vriska's plan doesn't work.
Thus, every single villain is defeated in a clever way.
The comic would be quite a bit longer, maybe, but this would really be the only thing needed to make the ending halfway satisfying. I don't even care about the stupid retcon and dropped plot points, at least make the victory feel deserved.
>>82031147
>'specially
Why was Caliborn so much more interesting and had a better character arc than everyone else?
>>82031294
>Autism triggered
>>82031294
What? You don't go down to the 'steraunt and get some especialty 'za and 'ips? How mainstream of you.
>>82024784
The retcon doesn't ressurrect Vriska. Instead, John's retcons just make Terezi not to be so vulnerable to Gamzee so she never gets her blindness healed by Arane and she keeps Gamzee in check during the three years.
>>82031303
I have a sneaking suspicion hussie never planned Caliborn's character from the start. Jack was supposed to be the main villain, and Caliborn had no place in the story.
>>82031181
seeing regular homestuck fans react and analyze updates and story developments vs how hsg see's them its kind of incredible. most people who read the comic didn't read every update with this idea of 'hussie being a spineless panderer' hanging over their interpretation of the comic. like hsg is the only place that obsesses over things like sexuality of the characters somehow implying that the author who they have never spoken to is slowly betraying them
>>82031147
Aren't you supposed to be contained in Reddit and never step out of it, with occasional leaks to tumblr?
>>82028868
Hussie is actually really witty with his pesterlogs, I think. I like the way he talks.
Everybody else's pesterlogs gradually degraded in quality, with occasional high points here and there (like the whole pesterlog with Rosesprite).
>>82031325
there are some really early hints to the cherubs, but maybe they were retrofitted.
>>82031244
i got into homestuck when i was 16 and it really captured my imagination, but for some reason i never delved into /hsg/ or got involved in the community whatsoever. not sure if i regret that or not. i did roleplay as dave on msparp for a bit haha
to answer your question, i started working on this AU back then (like 3 years ago) about the kids & trolls as human beings (age 16-20) living in the city, figuring out adolescence/young adulthood together, but i didn't get further than the second chapter
after finishing homestuck i had this desire to go back and re-start it, but now that it's all overand i'm in collegeit seems kind of childish to put time into. i dunno.
i still do write fiction tho, and i think the characters themselves provide interesting jumping off points. like most of the trolls are pretty one-sided and caricaturistic, but if you do the shading-in yourself, you end up with depth.
>>82031335
How early?
>>82031289
>[S] Act 7 A
>Vriska's brilliant plan fucks up, LE ressurects all his pawns, the ghost army is fucked, it's the darkest hour for the whole crew
>[S] Act 7 B
>Cue the actual finale, protags struggle to fight all villains instead of steamrolling them, Karkat actually does something, Calliope Snr does her black hole stuff, and show LE fighting
There I fixed it. Release the first one on 4/13 and the second one on 6/12 or whenever it was if you have to, it's not like anybody's going to give a shit after waiting years
>>82031328
>tumblr people don't notice Hussie is pandering to tumblr
Wow, really? What a revelation.
>>82031328
So Angel, when are you going to draw /co/ some nice art of Dave rejecting toxic masculinity by taking it in the ass?
>>82031313
But Terezi was vulnerable because she killed Vriska. What could have John done? Fuck her?
>>82031328
HSG was pretty good at reading the comic, but after some point it became incredibly deluded and they started to read an alternate version of Homestuck that only happened in their heads (which is ironic since that's what the tumblrs did).
I mean, this is not HSG anymore, and /hst/ is just a bunch of redditors parroting edgy memes, so maybe that's why.
>>82031330
>if i call them reddit or tumblr it somehow devalues any analysis/arguments they've made
why do this? they're talking about the comic
>>82031330
guhhh oh noo what gave it away, the fact that i used the word "masculinity" unironically
>>82031284
Nevertheless, Aranea specifically mentions an alt calliope could only exist through a glitch in spacetime, so the fact she's there means a glitch happened. And it fits with her being instrumental to English's defeat.
>>82031385
no, the fact that i suspect you're a specific user based on your manner of speech
>>82031365
Calling someone tumblr or reddit doesn't invalidate their argument, their argument being from tumblr or reddit invalidates their argument. Sort of how calling someone /pol/ doesn't invalidate their argument, their argument being from /pol/ invalidates their argument. The name is just calling a spade a spade.
>>82031328
davekat is a nonsensical development that damages parts of the comic like post-retcon events and their individual characters. that is, if it turned out to be real.
but yeah, if you turn your brain off and just ignore glaring plot holes and look for things that personally appeal to you, then a story experience is very different.
>>82031390
would have been nice to know the distinction between a regular doomed timeline and the fact that calliope's doomed timeline somehow is considered a "glitch"
>>82031398
i can assure you that i don't even have an account on reddit, much less browse r/homestuck or wherever you think you know me fromthere are a lot of different people on the internet
>>82031399
>Calling someone tumblr or reddit doesn't invalidate their argument
i'm listening
>their argument being from tumblr or reddit invalidates their argument.
never mind
>>82031403
>nonsensical development
It makes some sense if you realize that Dave needed to let go of his constant bottling of emotions and wanted someone to care about him. Karkat wears his emotions on his sleeve and gives far too many shits about everything. Dave being more like himself around Karkat seems pretty conceivable.
>there will never be a homestuck trading card game
people zero in on davekat, but anything introduced as part of the retcon is total shite
rose's alcoholism being negated instead of realizing to not drink through some conversations with roxy
vriska being alive
everyone accepting vriska's attitude
vriska's sudden admiration of arquius
the squared sprites
the fact jade did fuck all for three years
terezi being a doormat to vriska
and then davekat, of course maybe people would have stopped focusing on it if it wasn't mentioned in every other conversation on the frog platform
>>82031340
i don't think its childish. it can be a hobby or if writing is what you're going to college for even better. creating and improving your skills is great, people getting new content about a comic they like is a bonus
i really like how you think about things though, if you have links to an ao3 or something i'd read your stuff
>>82031363
i guess
its just weird to see how much they desperately believe that hussie owes them more of his older style of humor and writing. like i understand disappointment seeing something you like change in a direction you're not interested in but damn
>>82031399
>i don't actually care about whats being said
why didnt you just say so, its that easy
What happened to Serendioity Gospels? Will it ever be continued? Does the author have a blog somewhere?
>>82031461
you can basically blame Vriska for everything shit in Act 6
>>82031465
I guess it's weird how you think you're owed homosexual characters from Hussie.
>>82029736
In case it turns out to be true, I will pretend it doesn't exist and ignore it as well as I can.
Let the freaking comic die already. Dreambubbles life is awful, just let it stop living.
>people not getting why HSG was homophobic
gay marriage was on the cusp of being legalized so the left wing was shoving gays into EVERY FACET OF MEDIA to the point where it was ridiculously annoying
you obviously had to be there to see how annoying it was
What is the best HS album and why is it Mobius Trip and Hadron Kaleido?
>>82031360
>So Angel, when are you going to draw /co/ some nice art of Dave rejecting toxic masculinity by taking it in the ass?well i just got a commission to draw a bunch of davekat with karkat topping from hsg so soon i guess
you can project your own social opinions on it as you please, thats not my job
>>82031403
>davekat is a nonsensical development
except its not
karkat and dave's reliance on terezi to fulfill them lead them to bitter rivalry and a doomed timeline
her removing herself forced them to see each other as friends instead of rivals. so after living together for a span of 3 years and karkats hunger for romance and daves closeted bisexualty its really, really not surprising
>>82031493
hahahahaha
fuck
why do you think thats what i'm saying. he wrote the characters gay, thats not my doing
>>82031461
Yeah, all the characters felt off when Vriska was around. It's kind of believable that she could turn them all into her flunkies over 3 years, but that doesn't make it acceptable storytelling.
Her fondness of Arquius seemed weird but it actually shouldn't be - Vriska has always admired Equius somewhat or at least seen him as her equal, they just haven't interacted much.
>>82031542
Thats not how you spell drawing dead
>captcha is pool tables
Nice
Can Karkat still be redeemed or is he doomed to be a shitty girlfriend character to Dave?
>>82031465
Criticizing something for being bad doesn't mean you're saying you're owed otherwise, it just means it's bad.
>>82031551
YOU KEEP FALLING FIR BAIT
>>82031551
>dave's reliance on Terezi
Karkat was the only one obsessed with her
>>82031562
At best, he's a third wheel to Dave and Jade. One thing the ending did right.
>>82030632
He was cool when he had survivor's guilt for people dying under his rule, and I actually believed that would be addressed.
And when he actually did funny stuff, instead of just being like a dumb pet dog that just looks at you with dumb expression on its face, tries to eat the biggest green thing there is nearby, and does nothing except that.
In other world, before he entered the Dreambubbles and was resurrected there. Dreambubbles really do make everything worse.
>>82028326
>Editing Lexxy's art
YOU FILTHY HOMEFCUK
>>82028326
Jade would never wear that. She is a pure diamond.
Rose, on the other hand, is a dirty horny slunt.
>>82029533
>Best Troll Boy: Sollux
what are you a fuckin retard?
>>82031408
Alt Calliope is the glitch, not the timeline. The timeline just happens because Calliope took dominance, but Calliope taking dominance was specifically said to be impossible outside of a glitch. It was not a fifty-fifty thing like most doomed timelines, Caliborn's superiority was overwhelming from the beginning. And so only a glitch could enable Calliope's victory.
>>82031603
she had sex with Davesprite on John's couch
and maybe on his bed too
>Vriska solved the meteor firsthand
>despite Rose giving her zero credit and nobody really liking her for any reason post-retcon besides Terezo
Don't trust fanart in Homestuck.
>>82031621
John's retcon is the fucking glitch you dingus.
He was in the juju when he touched it, creating a paradox which loosened him from the narrative.
>>82031622
It was pure teen romance. Definitely not dirty at all.
>>82031465
>if you have links to an ao3 or something i'd read your stuff
unfortunately i don't, but i'll make atumblrand fill it up with some homestuck fics, plus other writing
>>82031639
you're talking about something entirely different so I'm not sure what you're trying to say? There's no connection between John's retcon and alt Calliope.
>>82031645
she's part Bec, making her old as Earth
it was kinky depraved /ss/ sex
>>82031667
There is only one glitch. An alt timeline ghost is not a glitch.
>>82031655
oh, also i guess i should've said this already, but: thanks! getting support on 4chan is usually kind of surreal and unexpected.
i've only been in homestuck threads since a week ago, but i dig your art & general attitude
BUNP
>you will never take Jade for walkies
>>82031566
saying something is bad because characters end up gayer than you originally thought they'd be implies you feel owed more straight characters
you can say the entirety of act 6 was bad but this whole discussion started with one dude being upset the number of gays was too high of a percent
>>82031567
i secretly like talking about the comic, but im bad at articulating my thoughts. late night hsg lets me argue about the comic more than daytime hsg
>>82031569
dave relied on terezi a lot, who else kept him company other than the mayor who didn't talk? rose was preoccupied drinking and being with kanaya it seemed, kanaya didn't understand his humor. karkat was completely out of the question for companionship. and gamzee was a creepy conksuck cloun. he didn't have anyone else
>>82031655
nice! send me links i need to sleep
>>82031709
>Jade you will never take you for walkies
>>82031303
It was fun how these common "heroic" tropes (his session is a special hard one, but he will persevere through determination, an unusual fate that makes him overpowered in an interesting way) got put on a villain and played off as traits of a villain (his determination is bullheadedness, his session is special because he intentionally screwed up the normal order by killing his co-player, the game is hard because it's punishing him for that, his fate makes him so overpowered because he literally is forcing the reality to give him that fate through time travel mechanics). It makes you kinda respect him in a weird way while not breaking his premise, and you feel like every bit of his power is deserved. This is about his character arc.
And he's enjoyable because he doesn't take bullshit from anybody and has some great dialogues with a distinctive style. His character arc also make him look better compared to other characters at the time he was introduced.
>>82031711
Saying someone's opinion is wrong because they felt there were too many gay characters implies you feel owed a different opinion. You ought to work on that entitlement complex.
Guys
What if you prototyped a carapacian, and then prototyped it with a Guardian+Player-sprite
And then that sprite^2 died on its quest slab
The retcon was an interesting way of introducing the butterfly effect into the comic while also exploring the bittersweetness of inserting yourself into an alternative universe you never knew.
The direction of Vriskagram and John thanking her fucking screwed everything up though.
>>82031711
http://pageofblank.tumblr.com/
just set it up, i'll put some stuff up asap
sweet dreams :^)
>>82031708
>>82031799
no probs. sorry you came in on the tail end of this wild ride
BUNP
>>82031778
Then Homestuck would have a good ending.
What's the best fucking theory of all time?And why is it Karkat ruining Universe C?
>>82031778
Nothing, because its a sprite and only dreamselves and real bodies will trigger gottiger.exe
>>82031817
karkat was a girl the whole time
>>82031817
That the Lord English we saw all throughout the comic and the Caliborn we saw all throughout the comic WEREN'T the same cherub.
>>82031840
Now this is an idea I can get behind
>Knight of Blood
jej
>>82031851
>>82031817
LE is the Calliope we see in the comic. She's got the Ring of Void, which LE magically gets at somepoint, and she says that Caliborn will awaken when someone says his name to her
>>82031817
Your '''''''''''''''theory''''''''''''''' is dumb and you should stop posting
>>82031874
Says the cuck who wants a fucking shipping ending.
>>82031824
Tell that to Jade.
>>82031711
>saying something is bad because characters end up gayer than you originally thought they'd be implies you feel owed more straight characters
Where are you getting this from? That guy's argument may have been poor but he was just explaining why he disliked something about the story, not saying, or implying, he was owed a better one, and neither has anyone else to my knowledge. It's like you say, people are disappointed, and they're not all as good at articulating it.
The last good reveal in Homestuck was that every God Tier death actually spawned a ghost.
The last good character resolution in Homestuck was a resolution of doomed!Terezi-dead!Vriska conflict and the hint that alive!Terezi saw it through the mind powers.
Terezi: Remem8er was literally the last good thing in the comic.
Everything after that was shooting it in the head so it dies already.
>>82031962
*God Tier death
Meant ascension to God Tier death instead.
It actually made dying to God Tier feel like it cost something for once.
>>82031910
HSG has always taken personal offense to gay characters being added to the story. They think its out of character for Hussie, that he's pandering every time he does. They think that old Hussie would make everyone straight and any hinting at gays would be for the purpose of mocking places like tumblr. see >>82030075
>>82031886
>karkats gonna go evil guys, I swear
>>82031886
>my epix video game twist
>>82031886
Karkat is Dave's fucktoy now
get over it
I love faggotry in Homestuck because it actually is treated as a joke : see Bro and his cock puppets leading up to Dirk
SBAHJ is Hussie's masterpiece.
>>82031897
Jades real body was placed on the slab. The post says nothing about a dreamself or a realself dying so im gonna assume the sprite is placed on a slab. Also whays the point of the post if we already know what happened to Jade
>>82031886
The ending is already fucked up, and it can't be fixed without rewriting the entirety of Act 6.
There's no point caring about an ending anymore.
The magic is broken. Homestuck is not a multiverse shown to us through a magic site anymore. It's merely a comic written by some weird guy, nothing more. There's no point discussing how people live here or what's beyond the curtain we see somewhere on the site. The only thing there's left to discuss is the guy's writing skills, and how many horse dildos he takes a day.
Or maybe there never even was anything beyond that curtain. Perhaps I should have known all along.
When's the fucking epilogue coming? Another year or on Karkat's birthday?
>>82031962
>last good thing
>No resolution between (Karkat) and (Terezi) despite his death being a big motivation for the retcon
>>82032100
SBaHJ is a fucking art form. In order to draw it, you need to progressively get shittier as an artist. You need to channel the Id, your innermost shitty artist, and put electronic pen to tablet. I'm not even sure what went through Hussie's head when he made those comics.
>>82031621
Except it's been made clear that she was able to dominate because she didn't soften up due to having contact with humans. If we're to trust the confrontation of their parents, it's not so weird that Full Cherub Calliope won over Caliborn.
>>82030693
>I never took stats: the post
8 is such a small sample size compared to a population of 7 billion
It's such a small sample size that you basically can't apply the population statistics to it, there's not enough to get an accurate distribution
Those 8 can honestly statistically be anything
Seriously take an online stats course
>>82032187
I didn't ever imply there weren't a ton of other things that needed to be resolved.
I mean that it was the last time something, anything got satisfactorily resolved in some way.
And I honestly think there wasn't that much need of a resolution here. I was fine with (Terezi) starting the retcon for his sake, and this never being brought up again, except with real Karkat and Terezi somehow, maybe. There was no need for explanations or discussions after this. I felt it was just a glance into her head and her priorities.
>>82032203
>SBaHJ is a fucking art form. In order to draw it, you need to progressively get shittier as an artist.
So that's why Homestuck kept getting worse. Hussie was perfecting his art.
I'm glad the idiot wagon isn't RPing, or posting about OTPs or whatever the fuck, but this discussion about the proper distribution of gays is fucking stupid.
>>82032152
How long was the waiting time for Problem Sleuth's epilogue?
>>82024238
>tfw someone not only steals your copypasta but then takes credit for it a few days later
I want kanaya to grind my nuts into dust
>>82032532
6 days.
>>82032532
a week
hussie could post it today for the ultimate callback
>it's been nearly a week since A7
>it will take some time to produce
DRAW IT YOURSELF
>>82032623
>it will take some time
Another year. Fuck.
>>82032686
a year of post sburb fanfic doesn't sound too bad
>>82032374
I just think a hug between the two would be fitting. You build up a relationship over years that just needed to end showing they still care about each other, instead it merely ended with nothing.
But of course, that is just one of many shortcomings.
>>82032686
>>82032623
he's basically post-poning the epilogue so the fans will not immediately jump to another fandom and completely forget about hiveswap and the other things
i bet he'll release Hiveswap news with the Epilogue
>>82032766
FUUUUUUUUCK
I'm going to dedicate the time to John/Roxy smut
>>82032857Rose/Roxy is better
>>82030033
Close but no. While the 'house juju' is indeed 'Homestuck itself', there is a REASON it is such. What it really is, is the Victory Door. The OTHER SIDE of the Victory Door - 'THE END', the end of the 'creation myth about kids in houses.'
It was seeded on Earth in the far-future, which is where Caliborn collected it. At this point it is a door into 'Homestuck', the 'creation myth' of the universe Caliborn lived in, with an unspecified point in connection. This is when it becomes 'Homestuck itself', the entirety of the work.
Because the actual exit door used was wrecked. Because when Vriska deploys it, LE goes through it, and exits onto the Victory Platform, where all the survivors stand together waiting for john to open the damn door (but which he never actually quite did). In all a big Callback to the Trolls on their Victory Platform, with Bec Noir.
Then they go to Masterpiece.
>>82032878
wrong
>>82032914
>This is true
>The kids we saw on the new universe being happy are just their selves from another timeline
>LMAO IT DOESN'T MATTER, ULTIMATE SELF AM I RIGHT?
Who is best troll and why is it Equius?
>>82032914
>Then they go to Masterpiece.
that doesn't make any sense, unless Caliborn's depiction of the Masterpiece contradicts actual events
>>82030033
That doesn't resolve anything though. So the kids and Lord English are stuck within the scope of the comic, so what. They're still in it together. What the fuck does that resolve? That Lord English isn't going to leave the comic and come to the real world? Excuse me for saying so but I wasn't too terribly concerned about that to begin with.
>>82029782
On lowas probably
>>82032914
you couldn't be more wrong about this if you TRIED
Post your rarest Karkats.
>>82033250
DELETE THIS
>>82032878
this is fact
>>82032954
you're wrog
>>82033250
gelasticat is something special
>>82033195
they go to the new universe, then at some time later the gods go to the Caliborn through Johns retcon power to close the time loop to ensure LE's creation so their universe can be made
The alphas get trapped on LOCAM and the betas get sucked into the juju that gets deployed against English
Can someone help me out? My server player deployed the cruxtruder and all that shit and is building up my house, what do I do now?
I can't get the cruxtruder open with my bare hands, and I may have fucked up by setting my specibus to wandkind. I forgot that magic isn't real when I made that selection and now I can't find anything suitable to put in it.
HOMESTUCK ENDING INTERPRETATIONS
1. The house juju works differently for the kids than it works for Lord English, but we aren't told how or why --> shitty ending
2. LE was sucked into the juju and he and the kids are trapped in there forever somehow even though John already went into the juju once and came out of it okay --> shitty ending
3. LE was sucked into the juju, but he and the kids aren't stuck there permanently, so really the threat was just postponed --> shitty ending
4. The kids are released from the juju and defeat Lord English in straightforward combat even though LE should be unkillable. Dave uses the cue ball sword; Union Jack fulfilling the prophecy was a red herring. Hussie stopped just short of the final battle because he is either lazy or just a hack --> shitty ending
I'm hoping for #4 personally
![Jade[258].png](https://i.imgur.com/zQ5NpcK.png "Jade[258]")
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