>There's TWO tickets but there's THREE of us!
>You saved my life! To repay you I'll dedicate my life to serving you.
>>81891750
>We ran out of ideas for our show
>Let's do the Chocolate Factory/Wizard of OZ/Wonderful Life/Fantastic Voyage episode!
> this expository scene is dull
> wait, let's throw in an unrelated D-list celebrity cameo to help explain, that's random
> what if the aggressively hetero main character was suddenly really gay for one episode, that's edgy right
>Our friend is sick and we have to shrink ourselves go into their body to take care of it
>Villain gets really good publicity all of the sudden and everyone thinks Protagonist is mean for picking on them, despite the villain repeatedly hurting people in the past
>Shape-shifting villain looks exactly like hero and does a bunch of bad stuff to frame them
>The blackmail episode, where a character gets dirt on the protagonist and makes them do dumb shit for the entire episode
>>81892372
>>The blackmail episode, where a character gets dirt on the protagonist and makes them do dumb shit for the entire episode
Name two shows that did this that didn't come from Asia
>>81891750
>let me acquire money, intelligence, power
>let me be an asshole to everyone now
>let me go completely back to normal when I lose everything again
Or worse:
>let me benefit from something for once
>let me lose that and go back to status quo by the end of the episode
>>81892261
"What do you think, Jennifer Love Hewitt? Can you help us out?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9w1fHjK7Fc
>Situation could be resolved with a 4 minute, honest conversation.
>This never occurs to them
>>81892396
Ed, Edd n' Eddy and The Simpsons
>>81892469
> I don't know fuck about how conflict works in storytelling or how to keep a reader/viewer's interest
Did you know shotgun blasts can't send you back through a plate glass window either you sheltered fruit
This is about cliches, not story mechanics you fucktard
>>81892396
Catdog (Winslow records cat reading Dog's diary and forces him to serve him)
Ed Edd and Eddy (Kevin learns Eddy's middle name and threatens to tell everyone)
As told by Ginger when the black cunt threatens to tell everyone about her hairy legs
I never forget these episodes because they just made me so angry, even as a kid. If you want me to hate a character make them commit blackmail.
>>81892460
I needed to see this twenty minutes ago
>>81892516
>A retarded excuse is a legit story mechanic
And I've seen it enough that it is cliched
>>81892520
>I never forget these episodes because they just made me so angry, even as a kid.
I was just about to make fun of you for having a strong emotional reaction to something in a cartoon years and years ago, and then I remembered this fucking asshole
>>81891750
>Character X does thing
>Character Y doesn't like thing
>Character Y tries a series of dishonest tactics to make character X stop doing thing so they don't have to be honest and just ask them to stop doing thing
>Every single attempt fails, or comically reinforces character X's doing of thing
>Character Y is either pushed to the breaking point and confesses, or they are forced to confess because they've been found out
>Character X stops doing thing because they're fucking friends
>>81892564
artistic license isn't the same thing as a cliche just because it triggers your autism, sonicfan
>>81892561
Why, anon?
My least fave:
>It's my birthday! If no one remembers it, I'll get super sad and run away or maybe join the villain's team or something!
>It's his birthday! Let's throw him a surprise party!
>Waaah! Everyone forgot my birthday!
>>81892605
This fucker! God damn I remember Tom running away from him TERRIFIED as he fucking yanked his whiskers out. Just because he doesn't fucking know how to play a guitar without breaking his strings. Jackass.
Thanks anon, why you gotta get me all mad like that.
>Two heroes fight
>It was all a misunderstanding/plot
>Unite to defeat source of misunderstanding/plot
>>81892663
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refractory_period_(sex)
>>81892685
Remember that time Mabel made a deal with an ancient con artist demon because Dipper wouldn't be there for her fucking 13th birthday.
>>81892516
>characters acting inconsistently to fit the plot is not bad writing
>>81891750
>there's two jawbreakers but three of us
This was a good EEnE episode though.
>>81892607
There's a couple slight variations on this cliched sitcom formula, depending on whether the cartoon is more schmaltzy or more Simpsons-y.
You can also have a bad end, where character X just keeps doing thing, but EVEN WORSE at the end.
You can also have a version where character Y is actually being a prick and they just learn to live with character X doing thing.
>>81892702
>can't cum gallons consecutively
Go to bed grampa
>>81892744
Yeah but that was Ed, Edd n' Eddy and almost 20 years ago when the concept was probably a lot less cliched.
I don't know how the fuck in 2016 anyone thought it was a good idea to make that the very first episode of the PPG reboot a "two tickets/three of us" plot.
>>81892812
Don't bring up the reboot please.
>>81892640
You're a fucking idiot, ya know that? Ha! Told you! Yeah!
>>81892844
>They didn't even get the right 6 year old meme
Seriously how does ANYONE defend this shit
>>81892922
>Seriously how does ANYONE defend this shit
Getting paid helps
>>81892469
For once I'd like to see this happen, and then they go "Oh shit, we need to fill 17 more minutes" and then everything goes batshit
>>81891750
>new type of bubble gum that sticks to everything
>>81892985
That seems like something amazing world of gumball would do.
>new super powerful character appears claiming to be some kind of ancient God
>turns out they're evil
The worst recent example was Bryan Hitch's JLA.
>>81892685
>the kids throw Lucky a birthday party and are nice to him for once
>Lucky makes lucky charms for them to thank them
>The kids never try asking politely for the cereal ever again even knowing that he'd let them have it if they weren't a bunch of thieving little shits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1rVBZVLh2I
>>81892959
Do people really believe that Cartoon Network pays people to go on an ostensibly 18+ site to hype up shows to people outside their target demographic and are more likely than anyone else to just pirate?
>>81892985
Phineas and Ferb subverted this trope in a way. Doofenshmirtz was talking on the computer to his rival and said something like "It's ridiculous that you'd have me say daughters are useless" and then Vanessa walked in in time for her to only hear "daughters are useless".
Then at the end of the episode it turns out she had her earbuds in and didn't hear anything he said at all.
>>81892959
Dude, not even Polygon is defending it at this point, even shills won't touch this hot pile of shit.
>>81892396
Family Guy(Meg catches Chris stealing money and forces him to do stuff for her)
I think there was a Hey Arnold one.
>unpopular character suddenly becomes popular and/or rich
>abandons old friends and becomes huge asshole
>>81892605
>>81892692
>disliking one of the best Tom and Jerry shorts
Tomfags sure don't know how to have fun.
>character becomes intelligent for whatever reason
>WAAAAAHHHHH WE DON'T LIKE CHARACTER BECAUSE HE'S A LITTLE BIT POMPOUS. HIS LIFE IS IMMENSELY BETTER BUT WE LIKED HIM DUMB. MAKE HIM DUMB AGAIN!!!!
>Character has amnesia from getting hit on the head
>Villain convinces them they're a bad guy
>Gets bonked on the head again
>Back to normal
I wouldn't be so mad if it weren't so fucking common
>>81893991
>character becomes intelligent for whatever reason
>he turns into an asshole
>>81892396
Happened inAngela Anaconda.
>>81891990
>parody episode
>makes fun of older cartoons like Scooby Doo for instance
>goes for the absolute lowest hanging fruit jokes
>"HAHA ISN'T IT SILLY THAT FRED ALWAYS WANTS TO SPLIT UP!?! SO FAHNY, SO ORIGINAL JOKE"
>>81894147
>Character becomes Rich
>Becomes asshole for no reason
Bonus points if the character is considered an asshole because he doesn't give his friends money.
>>81891990
>they do the fantastic voyage episode in the first season
>they've already given up
>>81891990
Now I want to see an episode that combines all of them, and doesn't acknowledge it.
>the new guys is obviously evil, but everyone still trusts him/her 110% instead of their long-time friend.
>>81894216
>Character gets rich
>They blow all their money by the end of the episode
>>81894197
>anime parody episode
>its always Speed Racer, DBZ, or Sailor Moon
>>81894221
Yes, Rick and Morty is definitely shit
>>81894216
>Character becomes Rich
>AAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDS
>>81894147
Then again, the more you know and better educated you are, the more you might get annoyed when people around you don't seem to know jack shit, yet they still keep talking like they know better.
>>81894446
I'd say R&M got away with it because it managed to do a lot more with the concept - a Fantastic Voyage plot that's also a Jurassic Park plot, with elements parodying both. It seemed to be the show going "Okay, in most shows, they go inside the human body and learn all of its myriad functions, in our show, the main character is nearly murdered inside the corpse of a hobo by Hepatitis."
>>81894434
>Joke where CHARACTERS WILL SPEAK IN LONG MONOTONE RUN ON SENTENCES WITH POOR LIP SYNCING HWAAHH
>This is such a rarity in anime and hasn't been a real problem since the 80's
>>81894434
>HAHA ISN'T IT FUNNY THAT THEIR HAIR GETS BIGGER WHEN THEY GET STRONGER!?!
>ISN'T IT FUNNY THAT THEY TALK FAST!?!
>ISN'T IT FUNNY THAT LIP SYNC IS OFF!?!
Anime parodies are a disease.Futurama's was bretty good, though.
>>81894592
>>81894446
Also worth noting that while most fantastic voyage plots are about saving the body they're inside, R&M killed them pretty quickly
>>81891750
>it's a trope thread episode
>>81891750
>character X says or does something
>character Y experiences it out of context
>Y gets mad and leaves
>X doesnt try to explain till the end of the episode
>Protagonist X is in a competition with Antagonist Y.
>Obscure side character Z wins the competition out of nowhere.
>episode ends with a character making a joke, and the entire cast starts laughing
>>81892469
>>81894812
>>81894147
Flowers for Algernon, which might be the original example of this (or at least is an old enough example that most modern interpretations are based on it) writes this off by saying the main character might have become a sudden genius, but he's still emotionally stunted as emotional growth takes time and isn't as simple as pumping chemicals into the smart gland and teaching someone how to read.
Most modern interpretations drop that angle and imply the smartness itself is what's making people into cocksuckers.
>>81898693
I think that one episode of The Simpsons HOMR did a good job of showing that.
>>81893917
> current year
> actually being on the mice's side in Tom and Jerry shorts
9 times out of 10, Tom was just minding his own business or just doing his job.
>>81894147
It's Always Sunny did this pretty well - there's an episode where Charlie takes part in a science experiment to make him smarter, and he immediately turns into a prick. At the end of the episode, it turns out he was being given a placebo, and the experiment was to see if the positive reinforcement would actually make him smarter or just turn him into a pretentious imbecile.
>>81892460
kek
>>81891750
In any situation...
>There is an evil doppleganger of hero...
>A. Villain creates one
>B. He/She is from alternate universe where heroes are evil and the villains are good.
Even worse...
>1. Hero teams up wither alternate universe self or selves.
>2. Hero doesn't exist in alternate universe. Bad Guys win automatically
>2b. Hero doesn't exist in alternate universe. Other good guys are evil/ass holes.
>Whatever you do, don't break this vase
>Or get this baby hurt
>Or wake me up
>If you do, I'll fucking murder you
>Everything that could possibly go wrong goes wrong
>Something super mundane causes the vase to break/person to wake up
>>81891750
>It's a Cockatiel Man Vs Elephant Glasses man episode
>Character has a celebrity they idolize
>Celebrity becomes recurring character
>Character is accustomed to seeing the celebrity every now and again
>Writers make character excited to see celebrity for some reason
