>live action adaptation of Fury MAX: My War Gone By
>Scott Eastwood as young Nick Fury
>Clint Eastwood as old Nick Fury
Yay or nay, /co/?
>>81853569
Old Westwood would never ever sign up for a hero/marvel movie.
>>81853596
But it wouldn't be 616 stuff, it'd be the story of a soldier in our real world.
>>81853569
It would be awesomebut it would never happen
>>81853671
I know, right?
>Marvel wouldn't be interested
>live action white Fury is a no-no
>Clint is retired and not interested in /co/-related material
>Scott is at WB
;_;
It's really transparent how hard Scott Eastwood tries to be effortlessly cool
>>81853621
I haven't read Fury MAX, but isn't it supposd to be part of the marvel universe with all the heroes and shit.
>>81853980
No, you fool. Ennis' MAX books are set in a much more realistic universe. No capes, no other Marvel characters besides Punisher and Fury. And they're fucking good; Garth Ennis' Punisher and Fury books are among the best Marvel ever. Seriously, read them.
>>81853729
Wat
>>81853569
>Nick Fury
>White
Come on, anon. You know that race swapping bs won't fly.
Nick Fury is and always has been black and it's racist to whitewash him just because you like Dirty Harry Jr.
>>81854039
I have read Punisher Max, but I always thought it was part of the MAX Universe, I mean, there is wolverine MAX and other stuff, they are not part of the same Universe? the fuck
>>81854276
They are. This guy's baiting you.
>>81853569
I'd rather have them as Solid Snake and Big Boss
>>81854276
The MAXverse is not necessarily a shared universe. There are other MAX books by other writers but the characters don't meet, and such.
>>81854252
Pic related.
>>81854314
Shut up.
>>81854331
Is wolverine Max any good? Also, why not just make it a shared universe, I mean, getting a wolverine max vs punisher max vs deadpool max would be pretty cool, right?
>Former Marvel president and chairman Stan Lee openly criticized the Max imprint. Referring to the 2001 Fury miniseries, based on the character Nick Fury, who he co-created, Lee said, "I don't know why they're doing that. I don't think that I would do those kinds of stories."[7]
Lol.
>>81854432
>why not just make it a shared universe
Because we already have 616 for that.
>>81854276
You forgot about Foolkiller, he's there too.
>>81854469
>Lee said, "I don't know why they're doing that. I don't think that I would do those kinds of stories."
Why is not 1963?
>>81854478
I feel like Badger would make a great addition to the Max line.
>>81854549
Mike Baron got blacklisted at the Big Two deacdes ago.
>>81854568
>Mike Baron got blacklisted at the Big Two deacdes ago.
what? Why? what happened, how can you get blacklisted by marvel and dc?
>>81854612
It seems that he's still the prime suspect in the mysterious death of his wife. Go figure.
>>81854469
>Because we already have 616 for that.
But 616 is E for theE normal fags.
>>81854631
I don't know if you are being serious or not. But if it's true is kind of awesome.
>>81854644
>E for theE
Don't know what this means, but anyway the MAX imprint stopped around 2013, so...
>>81853569
>Fury MAX
Will never happen.
In fact, Fury Max is indirectly responsible for us not having white Nick Fury in the movies.
George Clooney was in talks to do a live-action Nick Fury movie.
Somehow, he ended up reading Fury Max. He was so disgusted by what he read, that he refused to have anything to do with the character.
Avi Arad was so pissed at Marvel for publishing it that he fired Bill Jemas.
>>81855681
Source on George Clooney being disgusted?
>>81855761
>http://uk.businessinsider.com/george-clooney-canceled-nick-fury-talks-after-this-scene-2015-5
The Avi Arad/Bill Jemas thing I read about on CBR
>>81854252
Just say this is Nick Jr's dad and have him fuck a black lady
>>81855856
I wonder how Clooney would feel about My War Gone By.
>>81855681
>For once, a movie star actually reads a comic to prepare for a role
>Instead of reading Steranko stuff or any of the dozens of good Nick Fury comics, he reads a horrible non-canon comic and ends up hating the character
I wonder if that's ever happened with other actors. Like would someone turn down a role in a Marvel movie after reading a Bendis comic?
>>81856036
>Fury MAX
>horrible
I bet you hated My War Gone By.
>>81856124
Eh, Fury MAX is no War Gone By. It's like the Punisher Knights to Punisher MAX. Good blueprint for something that was done much better later.
>>81855856
And Sean Howe's book on Marvel.
>>81855856
>they censor the potty words
>they show the gore
>>81856036
>would someone turn down a role in a Marvel movie after reading a Bendis comic?
It depends. Would that role be DD?
Alas, the perfect candidate for MAX/Ennis Fury is no longer with us.
Nay.
Fuck Clint's son.
>>81853729
I know.
>>81853729
>>81856932
What's your beef against him?
>>81856304
It was for the best really, they should have fired Jemas long ago, literally everyone at Marvel hated him, and so did most fans.
>>81853596
What if they paid him a buttload of money to direct it?
>>81858143
A lot of old school film makers are insulted at the idea of comic book movies getting rave reviews.
>>81858236
Yeah, most of the people who are all "the Superhero bubble will burst just like Westerns any day guys" are people in the movie industry that resent these films or just plain don't like them.
>>81858236
>>81858308
If you ask me, the CW movie getting 10/10 reviews still looks a bit suspicious.
>>81858308
Hey, if it happened to the western genre it can happen to capes too.
>>81858308
>>81858540
Don't get me wrong cape movies can be good for what they are, but it's like comparing a fast food burger and a steak. Giving them both 10/10s isn't really doing the films that are legitimately good justice.
>>81858819
>Giving them both 10/10s isn't really doing the films that are legitimately good justice
Amen.
>>81858236
I wonder why they resent them. I wouldn't call Ant Man (or most Marvel movies, really) the next Godfather, but it's a perfectly serviceable action-comedy.
>>81858540
>If you ask me, the CW movie getting 10/10 reviews still looks a bit suspicious.
What does that have to do with the "bubble will burst" argument?
>>81858907
Because at heart they're all the same shit. Capes here, capes there, capes everywhere.
>>81858916
Those exagerated reviews might help the bubble burst, no matter if people love the movie or if they already feel fatigued.
>>81858907
Yeah "serviceable" why absolutely praise something like it is godfather when it is just "serviceable." It's like those IGN reviews "9.5/10 -it's ok"
>>81858985
You could say the same thing about war movies, or westerns.
Just because a lot of them share the same concept doesn't mean they're all bad.
>>81859055
>war movies, or westerns
These are genres with much more history and variety than the subgenre of capes.
>>81853980
>>81854039
>>81854276
>>81854314
>>81854331
>>81854478
You're all only partially right. It works like this:
Some of Ennis' Punisher MAX run (like Born) got referenced in a Civil War tie-in profile book. So that means some events in there happened in the Marvel Universe at that time, but maybe not others. His Punisher MAX run also acknowledged some things from his Marvel Knights run happened, but sidesteps others (anything that had to do with superheroes).
A comparable thing is Batman: Year One being in continuity to both the Pre-Flashpoint DCU and Frank Miller's Dark Knight universe.
>>81859040
I dunno about the critics who praise say, The Winter Soldier as the next Citizen Kane (does such a critic exist?) but being overrated doesn't equal it being bad.
Hell, people praise Die Hard as a 10/10 action movie, but that doesn't mean they consider it on the same level as Apocalypse Now.
>>81859099
>Some of Ennis' Punisher MAX run (like Born) got referenced in a Civil War tie-in profile book
>>81859077
I guess. But that doesn't mean I would call Kick-Ass and Ant Man the same type of movie.
>>81859129
>people praise Die Hard as a 10/10 action movie
It was good, but they do so out of this current 1980s nostalgia.
>Apocalypse Now
>action movie
Say what?
>>81859167
I'm sure they have more in common than, say, the war movies Casablanca and Apocalypse Now.
>>81859196
I was just picking some random, well received movie to compare it to. I dunno what the "pinnacle" of action movies is, unless you think it's Die Hard.
>It was good, but they do so out of this current 1980s nostalgia
Get out.
>>81859223
Could you really call Casablanca a war movie though? A more apt comparison would be The Deer Hunter and Apocalypse Now, or Full Metal Jacket and Platoon.
>>81859310
>Could you really call Casablanca a war movie though?
It was a WW2 propaganda movie, anon; not all war movies need to show war scenes.
>>81859371
I've always though about it as a drama with Dubya Dubya Deuce as a backdrop, but I'm no expert.
>>81859099
Here's the page from Civil War Files. Iron Man mentions the Firebase Valley massacre, which happened in Born. And the whole "now rarely encountered in the field by any super hero save Daredevil" is a mix of Ennis' MAX run (where no superheroes showed up) and Brubaker's run on Daredevil (where Castle showed up).
As for the MAX universe, in Ennis' mind only Punisher and Fury exist in the universe of the stories he writes. So his version would be all his Punisher MAX stuff, some of his Marvel Knights Punisher, plus his Fury MAX stuff and that Marvel Knights Fury miniseries and probably Punisher: The End.
The overall MAX universe includes all that stuff but ignores Punisher: The End, and also includes Foolkiller, Wolverine MAX, and Aaron's Punisher MAX run.
>>81858308
>The man who made his career off of westerns
>hating the modern western
what a prick
>>81859579
What?
>>81859077
>These are genres with much more history and variety than the subgenre of capes.
War movies, sure. But the wild west was literally one single decade, and the number of actual duels and gunslingers that existed could be counted numbers in only the dozens. It's the single most romanticized and misunderstood part of US history.
>>81859635
Clint Eastwood hating the modern western is dumb
>>81858143
He directed Gran Tarino & American Sniper, movies that every snobby critic hated but audience loved. Disney would never get him to direct/star shit. He's above the cape cinema craze.
>>81859099
Every MAX title has been referenced by 616 with the exception of Rawhide (Thank god).
>>81859660
It wasn't him that said that, it was Spielberg.
>>81859671
>Gran Tarino
>every snobby critic hated
Bullshit.
>>81857044
jealous bitches. Same reason Henry Cavil gets the balding shit.
>>81859657
Yes, but I think my point stands. It's not the same She Wore A Yellow Ribbon as They Call Me Trinity.
>>81859769
But you said that there was more history and variety, no?
I just feel like 70+ years of history and several different types of stories is a significantly larger body of work.
>>81859838
Exactly. That's why I said that capes
>>81858985
>at heart they're all the same shit
>>81853569
It might be cool but it'd be hard to top the Hoff.
>>81860192
Was this watchable?
>>81859671
>He directed Gran Tarino & American Sniper, movies that every snobby critic hated but audience loved.
>Gran Torino
>79%, 7.1/10 average by critics
>American Sniper
>72%, 6.9/10 average by critics
I wouldn't call that being hated.
>>81859671
for some reason he doesn't mind doing this
>>81860793
>Unca Clint like manga better than capes
RACE TRAITOR
>>81860793
I bet this was the best day of Araki's life
Is there anyone involved in cape comics who has as big a boner for Clint as Araki does
>>81859445
The latest handbook also revealed that Ennis's version of the Phantom Eagle is set in the "MAXVerse".
Which is designated Earth-200111, in case anyone is curious.
So, officially, it consists of:
The Punisher, with the exception of The End (also takes a broad strokes approach to pre-MAX Punisher)
Fury MAX, Peacemaker, and My War Gone By
Foolkiller MAX and White Angels
Wolverine MAX (debatable)
War is Hell: The First Flight of the Phantom Eagle and Secret Wars: Where Monsters Dwell
>>81860271
I only saw the first half-hour, but it was decent, from what I remember.
The villainess was hammy as fuck.
>>81861082
>villainess
Boner?
>>81854276
MAX are effectively one-shots. Not every story for one character shares a timeline and not every MAX story shares a universe.
>>81859680
Not quite; Wolverine MAX couldn't really be 616 Wolverine (the MAX version of Wolverine didn't have bone claws) and still had a much different history than 616 Wolverine anyway.
>>81860983
Maybe Frank Miller
>>81861040
>The Punisher, with the exception of The End (also takes a broad strokes approach to pre-MAX Punisher)
You could ignore the superhero stuff in Marvel Knights and it wouldn't change much. Like for instance, Castle would just shoot Dino Gnucci in "Welcome Back Frank" instead of getting into a fight with Daredevil and then shooting Gnucci. The Spider-Man story is a little harder to ignore but you could just imagine Castle doing something else to stop the Russian that time. Or ignore it completely. You could probably ignore the Wolverine story unless you wanted to pretend that at that point in time Wolverine MAX was brain-damaged and still trying to recover. Of course you'll have to completely ignore Confederacy of Dunces and the Ennis Punisher/Elektra story altogether (mainly cause Aaron's version of Elektra is completely different from the 616 version).
>Wolverine MAX (debatable)
I think Wolverine MAX is included because of the Punisher mention (it says the reason Logan got claws was that the mob boss he worked for wanted to give Logan an edge against the Punisher if he returned, or something like that). But his whole history is different anyway and there's really no other superpowered people in his comic other than Sabretooth and maybe Mother Night.
>>81861149
Sure, she was pretty hot.
>>81862566
Yeah, Wolverine MAX fits well enough, the "debatable" was just my autism flaring up; I'll probably keep having reservations until there's something more concrete (like a handbook or something) than the final issue's vague reference and flashback, as it just seems off to have OVERTLY super powered people (even if they were just borderline urban legends like Logan and Creed) in a setting that tended to avoid straying into such territory unless you count things like the voice in Born, Fury's weird aging (which he brought up a few times) or that robotic arm that Sickle Moon picked up at the end of White Angels.
>>81860793
Japs pay celebrities big money just for a 30 second commercial. Why would he not?
>>81853569
FUCK YES
>>81856787
as if
>>81859769
Reminder that Westerns had been around for sixty years in print and forty years in cinema before they even began to get anything remotely resembling genuine critical praise as anything other than cheap entertainment for children.
>>81866294
Well, it's not happening with capeshit.
>>81860271
If you were the protagonist of Clockwork Orange.
