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Andrew Hussie cucked you out of a good ending for Homestuck. Why not read something with a satisfying conclusion?
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Why dont we just kill the Batman?
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because Homestuck 2.0 will be PS going into Sburb anyway
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Because I already did.

Several times.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MK7qz13bU
Thread theme
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>>81782382
Is Pickle Inspector a penis joke?
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>>81782247
Homestuck ended with the demented skull child as its best character. That's what.
>>81782249
You're too late. The Karkat you knew and loved was already murdered. The one we have right now is a retconned doppelganger.

That's really the moment I stopped giving a shit about any of the characters other than Caliborn. Well, I'm also hoping Erisol shows up to "ruin" the ending.
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I've read PS several times.

Without the epilogue it has a pretty meh ending too. Mind you the stakes were a lot lower but still, I'm not gonna be mad until the epilogue also proves disappointing.
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>>81782452
As much as Ace Dick is.
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>>81782382
> People that want everything explained on a fucking silver plate

I loved it because of the characters and the complexity. Thought provoking shit. And I loved the ending for that
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>>81782431
No. Midnight Crew.
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I don't know why people are still in tears when Hussie said we were getting an epilogue after Act 7.
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What's the matter, too deep for you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UE81f0KbK0&feature=youtu.be
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>>81782470
>The one we have right now is a retconned doppelganger.
So you are saying that everything that defined Karkat up till the end of Act 5 doesn't count?
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>>81782470
god. Nu-KK sucks
and his biggest win was beating clover
who may have just LET him win
we don't know because we have no idea what those symbols mean because hussie never explained the lucky charms
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Explaination of what happened for babbys
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>>81782503
Because this so-called epilogue is a nebulous idea at this point.
It is a far cry from "there will be one more update sometime soon" or "there will be another flash" even.
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>>81782526
Yes. Because his character "developed" so much off screen, that it may as well be someone else.
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I mean, I got what I expected, but I have to say I'm a bit disappointed.

I hate mondays.
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>>81782225
thats a good thing about this finale

i hope none of his theories worked out in the end
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What are you guys doing now
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>got into the comic because of the videogame imagery, programming jokes and promise of some cool fighting along the line
>start to lose hope of it ever acheiving its potential midway through act 4
>hussie seems dead set on making sure nothing can ever feel satisfying
>mfw act 5

I kept reading on and off to see how it ended, can't say I'm surprised by it being fucking bullshit.

The fight with the Condesce was everything I was hoping for in Homestuck. It was this kind of battle that was long overdue, but it was too little too late, and surrounded by more pointless bullshit.

In a way this felt like 8bit theater : hell bent on being a terrible experience for the reader just for the fuck of it.
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>>81782503
The ending itself sucked! Yes I know we're getting a fucking epilogue, and I would rather it be a thousan words/page pesterlog chat than anything, but I wasn't satisfied at all by this ending! I'm happy it's over, but man it did not payoff in the end.

I'm done with this ride, I'll see you cosplaying faggots at anime conventions and I'll be holding my breath for the release of Hivebent on whether it's good or not.
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let's make a compilation of shit that never got answered or was simply pointless

>rose never played the rain
>what was the deal with kurloz
>when do the kids fight caliborn to create LE like in claystuck
>what happened to the ghost army
>where are vriska and terezi
>what fucking ships are canon apart from fucking davekat apparently
>what happened to the shitty spites
>will someone say caliborn name to calliope one day and make caliborn wake up?
>the fuck happened to the clown
>What was karkat's role on the new society
>What happened to (vriska), hell what was even the point of making her?
>where the fuck is sollux
>What happened to the felt?
>Zillywave and Sawtooth
>How did LE got his coat
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xth for poetry
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>>81782544
>tfw this is wrong
>people were this desperate to save trolls and shit they ignored what was happening in the actual comic
Classic tumblr
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>>81782589
*apart from Rosemary
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>>81782544
stop, this pic is wrong
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I feel like the Trickster arc was meant to have more prominence in the ending, but it got cut.
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>>81782576
writing a research proposal

>>81782589
>when do the kids fight caliborn to create LE like in claystuck
Are you fucking serious?
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>>81782544
Vriska is the last person to perform a heroic sacrifice.
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>>81782642
what was even the point of that besides caucasiangate
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>>81782652
When in their personal timelines do they ride the retcon wave into Caliborn's session?
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>>81782544
> (Gamzee might be there too)

Nope. He's on Caliborns planet with the crowbar.

And the Juju theory is just what the surface might look like and leaves so much stuff open. If you theorize, then at least make it right, taking possible implications from Johns earlier encounter with it or the masterpiece into consideration
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What became of fedorafreak? Did Lord Englishs influence extend to that session?
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>>81782549
He barely changed, actually. If anything he showed some untapped maturity when Terezi went down, but al this potential is still there with current Karkat.
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>>81782589
Where the FUCK is bec/jack noir?
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>>81782678
>[x]gate
can you not
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>>81782508
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Lets have a moment of silence for all the characters who never developed.
>Gamzee
>Feferi
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the retcon, the beforus trolls, the game over stuff...none of it even needed to happen. i've had a lot of faith in hussie bringing everything together up until this point but he just didn't. welp, time to never trust again
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>>81782652
we literally don't know when they do that

or which version of them it is, for that matter
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>>81782745
>Karkat
>Jane
>Joke
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>Going through threads from last night
>Every shitposter from hsg history making an appearance
>tfw missed it because I was just a little too slow in catching up
This shit's gonna eat me up inside for years, probably
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>>81782745
>Sollux
>Nepeta
>Every Beforus troll except for Aranea and Meenah
>Bro Strider
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>>81782718
Sorry, Nixon.
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Knowing now that Hussie has been planning this animation for years, I suspect that the chest Vriska is holding was originally going to be the one in Caliborn's room containing his juju, but Hussie scrapped the idea and created the Trickster arc instead.
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>>81782745
gamzee arc didnt get closure but he did have some development
poor fefes didnt

Also fucking karkat his arc was so disappointing
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>>81782580
I don't think 8-bit theatre was bent on being a terrible experience. The joke of the comic was that it was always raising your expectations to actually having the 4 work as a team as the 4 warriors of light and do something good for once instead of being shamelessly selfish assholes and it all ended on a one-off joke about 4 white mages beating Chaos.

Plus, it was 8-bit sprites man. Not much more to enjoy besides the banter and the Simpsons humor. I think it was pretty great and it ended well for me.
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What was the point of sollux being half dead
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>>81782745
Feferi represented the dying troll society. She's dead for a reason.
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>>81782652
Uh, we still don't know when it actually happens.
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>>81782503
Because we've been waiting for fuckyonkers and this was supposed to be the big climactic end.

Then it fails to actually tell us anything we didn't know already and does nothing but generate a bunch of "well what the fuck actually happened in that thing" that despite everyone and their hot mom taking a stab at that question we've still got nothing more solid than fucking guesses.
That's not an ending, that's the same bullshit we've been eating since forever.

And now we're supposed to be pinning our hopes of some manner of explanation for this shitclusterfuck that we've all been waiting with bated freedom to hear some sort of explanation that ties things together and lets us know where things stand now, and that's just a fucking afterthought tacked onto the end of the post with an "oh, maybe in a few months or something, we'll see".

I'm a mite mad, so I've probably said something dumb here, but w/e, hope that gives you some understanding of why someone would be upset about the current state of affair.
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>>81782678
it was originally the introduction of game glitches
the only way to weaken LE was to use a glitch, and dave would kill him with ol' welshy
trickster mode was a glitch. Other glitches were introduced along the way
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>>81782716
He used to be a scary motherfucker, before timeskip happened and LE stole the show
Apparently even Hussie forgave him, since he is probably allowed to live in the new world as a cripple.
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>>81782508
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>>81782498
Fuck off Andrew
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>>81782503
Do you even know what an epilogue is?
The story is over.
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>>81782589
>when do the kids fight caliborn to create LE like in claystuck

During his masterpiece.

>where are vriska and terezi

Vriska is with the army. Terezi with the kids in the new universe.

> the fuck happened to the clown

Landed on Caliborns planet with the crowbar.

> What was karkat's role on the new society

Is that really important? How every character will be a contribution to society? dafuq

>What happened to (vriska), hell what was even the point of making her?

Terezi: Remem8er

>What happened to the felt?

Got defeated

>Zillywave and Sawtooth

It was silly shit. Not everything silly HAS to be relevant. Especially when it's trickster shit
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>>81782774
and i was fucking sleeping, damnot

>>81782819
>it was originally the introduction of game glitches
oh right, thanks anon
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>>81782747
>the retcon, the beforus trolls, the game over stuff...none of it even needed to happen
I disagree.

The beforus Troll especially, as he used it all the amount they needed to and made the plot move forward whil providing interresting background story.

As for the retcon they showed great optential. the issue is that this potential remained unused.

GO! was great, though.
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>>81782774
What, are there screenshots? Did that guy who original come into /hsg/ threads to talk about how shit homestuck was 5 years back and berate us all for liking it show up? He was the guy that we all liked and revered, even though he hated us because he had the whole hateful, Karakat troll persona-thing going on.
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>>81782249

BUT BREATH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FREEDOM
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>>81782828
Reminder that jack overthrowing the black queen was badass
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>>81782819
The glitch is that Caliborn was able to trap the kids inside of the Juju without the event occurring anywhere on their timeline.
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>>81782498
>complexity
Have we been reading the same comic?
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I'm not entirely sure with what I even wanted for an ending.
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>>81782860
>During his masterpiece.
No. You're not understanding the question. When, IN THE KID'S OWN TIMELINE, do they carry out the masterpiece. Is it after John opens the door at the end? How long after? When the hell does it actually take place? Nobody knows.
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>>81782875
They're all in the archive
>>81759525
>>81756691
etc.
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>>81782589
Where is DD and the Dronegorg?
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>>81782867
plus as we see with Jake's headset jawn
trickster LE would have been practically human
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>>81782801
>gamzee arc didnt get closure

He gets split in half
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>>81782382
Was there any analogues for PS, PI, AD or MK in Homestuck?
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>>81782508
I wouldn't compare act 7 to the TV ending of Evangelion.

At least in homestuck we see what the main characters really end up as instead of just having some psycho vision.
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>>81782544

GODDAMN HOW CAN PEOPLE BE THIS FUCKING WRONG
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>>81782818
>I'm a mite mad, so I've probably said something dumb here
You were pretty much saying dumb shit front to back in that post, yeah.

>all these idiots actually expecting Hussie to give them what they wantd
it's like you guys never actually read homestuck live
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>>81782544
Are you implying that this headcanon shit makes any sense
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>>81782873
Both the Retcon and GO! were pointless in the grand scale of things, it unnecessarily bloated the narrative and was pretty much filler that doesn't matter.
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>>81782927
I wonder if he survived the destruction of the universe and is just honking softly, a single tear runs down his cheek while the juju floats in the background
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>>81782927
That timeline was retconned
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>>81780574
>boobs
>hips not at least twice as wide as shoulders
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>>81782932
What if this is still Homestuck As Told By Caliborn though and none of it is real
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>>81782681
>>81782810
>>81782769
>Lil cal and doc scratch mess with other universes and sessions
A2->A1->B1
>B2 is created and LE is loose in dream bubbles
>Vriska finds the Juju sent out in Masterpiece
>John retcon hax the bad end into a good end maintain Alpha
>alt!Caliople goes Session Wipe Extravaganza and creates a black hole (pocket)
>B1 kids let out of the juju (or LE stuck in it)
>B1 and LE (in or out of juju) pocketed along with all of dream bubbles vris/sollux/aradia
B2->Cherubs session
>cherub session kids (b1/2) train up
>Trolls die off as no God tier trolls entered Cherub session
>John retcons in to caliborn with max level kids
>b1 sealed
>b2 seals caliborn and creates lil cal and through him LE
Cherub->k->A2
>shit repeats and lil cal calls the previously stuck LE into universe fucking
>doc and lil cal fuck shit up
REPEAT until B2

As for when masterpiece starts? He notes they have taken their time to over level something you cant do in B2 sesh with LE imminent
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>actual end of the comic is shown in crappy claymation
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>>81782544
>...which signifies the circular nature of Homestuck... That SBURB will return, somehow, to this new universe, and it will all begin again, eventually
But I wanted to see the kids actually escape from that cycle, what with Paradox Space being the flawed reality and all that. I wanted to see the kids actually gain enlightenment as true gods. If this ending's supposed to represent circularity, then it might as well just be a loop to the first page.
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>>81782652
>Are you fucking serious?
yes I am you retard, because we know how did that happened but my question is WHEN does that take place
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>>81782652
Yes
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>>81782910
Thank you.
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>>81782884
pity that never went anywhere.
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>>81782544
This is fake.
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>>81782974
nope

It's them after they've lived in their world
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>>81783008
Mother fucker
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>>81782929
The Midnight Crew for Team Sleuth.

Lord English is basically DMK.
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>>81782589
>>rose never played the rain
That was only important in a normal game, their game got fucked so it stopped being important
>>what was the deal with kurloz
Lord English servant who did his mission in his own game, so basically a one off character of no importance
>>when do the kids fight caliborn to create LE like in claystuck
Before John retconned everything
>>what happened to the ghost army
All gone or maybe not who cares they were doomed timelines
>>where are vriska and terezi
Vriska maybe see above
But Hussie storyboarded this 4 years ago, maybe they were originally meant to die and he didnt bother to change shit
>>what fucking ships are canon apart from fucking davekat apparently
John/Roxy and Kanaya/Rose for sure, everything else is open in the air
>>what happened to the shitty spites
Maybe they disappear when the game ends
>>will someone say caliborn name to calliope one day and make caliborn wake up?
No
>>the fuck happened to the clown
Forever trapped
>>What was karkat's role on the new
society
Irrelevant, dies of old age eventually
>>What happened to (vriska), hell what was even the point of making her?
She lives happily ever after with (Terezi)
>>where the fuck is sollux
With Aradia
>>What happened to the felt?
Locked away probably
>>Zillywave and Sawtooth
Just robot side gags so irrelevant
>>How did LE got his coat
Stitch made it probably
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>>81782960
They were certainly not pointless.

GO! was the lowest momnets for the character and the Retcon power was the only way to defeat LE, as the original main timeline would have resulted in his victory.

Plus, the way it was introduced and how it allowed to branch out from old strips was a very neat trick that alone justify its existence.
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>>81782940

>its supposed to be shit
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>ending is so bad that I want to vote for trump to destroy the planet
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WAIT HOLD UP

WHY DID JOHN NEED THE WALLET?
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>>81783008
who is that dude
i see him all over /pol/
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>>81782982
Not enough claymation.
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>>81783071
>He doesn't know about Carl the Cuck
Are you kidding me?!
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>>81783067
it's where the ending of homestuck was being kept before it got thrown in the toilet to stoke the genesis fart
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>>81783063
I'm not defending it, but anyone acting surprised is an idiot. It wasn't even that bad of an ending, especially considering there will be an epilogue.
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I was kind of expecting a credits roll with Song of Skaia. Kind of weird that Hussie didn't use that opportunity - it felt like an obvious ending theme the moment I heard it.
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>>81783071
the new face of liberalism
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>>81783052
>GO! was the lowest momnets for the character
Indeed, for the character. Not characters. Only John and Roxy developed because of GO! and the Retcon.

The retcon was pointless, Vriska could've stayed dead and it wouldn't have made a difference.
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>>81782940
There's been plenty of times where the results of complicated nonsense has been laid out plainly: all the stuff with the timelocked flowers, the bunny's journey through the continuity, [S] MSPA Reader: Mental breakdown.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect the fucking CONCLUSION to pull together the stuff that came before it and tie things up.
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DAD IS FUCKING JANE
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>>81783071
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
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>>81782508
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>>81783071
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!
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>>81783021
Gamzee gets sawed in two when kanaya gets blasted by the condense. John retcons this so it never actually happened.

Speed-reader confirmed.
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>>81783128
those were for charity clark
Time to put on your big boy continuity boots now
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>>81783107
remember when Song of Skaia was a meme
good times
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Can somebody explain to me what the fuck was the point of the Felt ? Their introduction took a lot of space, Jake has to fight them because ... reasons ? And they were completely irrelevant front to bottom.
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>>81783133
Hussie was always a canon pedo.
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>>81783175
Oh, you're a moron. He gets sawed in half in the Caliborn fight as well. Go reread it.
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>>81783181
well the answer is quite simple you see
the felt are the best characters in homestuck apart from Spades Slick
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>>81783202
The Caliborn fight hasn't happened yet outside of a vision.
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Is there anything like the first four acts of Homestuck I can read? I'm ready to move on to something else.
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the artist of the final flash confirmed it took her from March 2015-December 2015 to do.
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>>81782860
>During his masterpiece
see>>81782909


>Landed on Caliborns planet with the crowbar.
how did he even got the crowbar? this just opens more questions, also do you happen to have the page where he lands on the fridge? I thought him being with caliborn happened when he was on the ship

>Is that really important?
Well the comic sure made it look important, what the fuck was the point on showing us him going to talk to nix and all of that shit if hussie was never going to talk about it on the end

>Terezi: Remem8er
so... just gay singularity?

>Got defeated
No but I mean what happened to them AFTER they got defeated? Jake sure as hell didn't killed them so just what happened with them?
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>>81782993
The kids will probably escape it, but the universe itself won't. There will just be other players in the new universe. Though what happens to former gods when a planet gets destroyed by SBURB is up in the air.

Also, I just realized we never got any resolution to the Skaia-Corp thing. I guess it's irrelevant, probably just this universe's way of bringing SBURB about like the ruins on Alternia, but still.
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>Karkat the cuck
>Terezi the forgotten one
CANON
A
N
O
N

Truly a match made in heaven
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>>81782984
You're just gonna keep obnoxiously parading your fanon, aren't you?
There's no indication the new universe created is the Cherub's session.
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>>81782508
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>>81783239
>Hussie could've told her to add Terezi

>he didn't
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>>81782860
>Vriska is with the army. Terezi with the kids in the new universe.
So Vriska's dead, right? Along with Sollux and Aradia?
>Terezi: Remem8er
So, entirely pointless?
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>>81783265
skianet, not skiacorp.

aaaand 5 years later i JUST realized that was a SkyNet gag. Fuck me.
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>post yew you remember people talk about hussie killing characters but the only dead characters are:
>equius
>nepeta
>half sollux
>lusi and guardians
>beforus trolls
>handmaiden
>HIC

like even the big bad LE isn't dead
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Where did snowman get her ability? I thought she was the queen of the trollses session
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>Had an idea kind of similar to homestuck
>Couldn't write it all this time because it would probably be accused of plagiarism
>Homestuck ended up being shit

fuck me maybe I could get away with it now that homestuck is dead
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>>81783233
waterworks is pretty good

>>81783226
oh man so that means Gamzee survived [S] Collide
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>>81783306
LE might as well be dead
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Why the fuck do Karkat and her have almost the same character arc?

I can sense it and no, not in a bullshit shipping way.
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At times like this we must remember the wise words Andrew Hussie gave us to live by several years ago.

>We decide to agree this conflict is not a big enough deal to warrant a detailed examination of the action, or an embedded musical accompaniment. We also agree that while that would have been pretty sweet, we are also in kind of a hurry here. But if it were to be accompanied by something audible, it would probably sound something like this. We decide to listen to that track, close our eyes, and imagine what might have been.

>Wow that sure was awesome.

>Anyway, moving on.
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>>81783300
>Vriska dying while she has both regular plot armor and plot armor as her literal in-game powers
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>>81783334
Yeah, he, the crowbar and Yaldaboath all took a trip to Caliborn's session through the hole in reality Jack English made.

Why did Hussie not explain this?
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>>81782921
If Slick pulled the final pin and revived Snowman, would he also revive the A2 universe?
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>>81783318
Doc made her the universe after she lost in the troll session
funnily enough, she lost because Aradia made her sprite with a frog, and dersites hate frogs, so the queen wouldn't wear the ring
being Snowman, she was in charge of the felt
frog-like creatures
and became the universe
a giant frog
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>>81783306
>like even the big bad LE isn't dead
why would you ever think LE would die
he can't die
that's his whole thing

that's the one thing the ending did right
the only way to beat a Lord of Time like that is get him stuck in a loop
and LE is stuck in a dead session, in a dead universe,left behind
>>
How do I feel...?
Please tell me, pseudo-/hst/.
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>tfw an epilogue won't solve the wasted potential of that character you like

Aradia, fuck.
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UPDATE
P
D
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T
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>>81782508
Fucking fantastic. I loved the Evangelion TV ending, though.
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>>81783334
>oh man so that means Gamzee survived [S] Collide
Yes. One of the more popular theories is that he ended up on Caliborn's earth through the black hole that was created after Jack English was decapitated in [S] Collide.
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>>81783385
where the fuck is sollux
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>>81783385
I still don't know if she's supposed to be dead.
What happened to "alive and intending to stay that way"?
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>>81783358

>Why did Hussie not explain this?

I dunno. He's giving people who pay attention to the comic a chance to be elitist shitheads and lord over everyone since we figured out the ending.

Clearly this should be celebrated.
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>>81783306
>like even the big bad LE isn't dead
holy shit do you actually even read homestuck? LE was never going to die, just be defeated by getting stuck in a stable time loop
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>>81783367
>he can't die
yes he can
exploit a glitch to remove his powers and then let dave kill him as is foretold
make him go trickster then use the house and Dave could kill him with ol' welshy

did you not read the comic?
he's inviclbe in-game
remove him from the game, he dies
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>>81783328
Execution is everything. All art is recursive.

Shoot m8
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>>81783306
You forgot thousands of MSPA readers who are dead inside right now.
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>>81783339
>no, not in a bullshit shipping way.
>he doesn't like karkat/vriska
pleb
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>>81783439
There is no timeloop. LE gets stuck in the juju, then abandoned in a black hole. That's the end of him.
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>>81783455
What glitches did anyone exploit? How is alternate Caliope a glitch?
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>>81783339
>almost
Anon.

One is actually justified for having combat experience.
The other one wasted his years watching romcoms and playing video games.
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>>81783455
>exploit a glitch to remove his powers and then let dave kill him as is foretold
right, exactly, that's how it was supposed to happen

but that was then, and this is now

dave never got to drop it like it's hot when the pimp was in the crib, because fuck it, hussie needed an ending
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Regardless of an epilogue are we going to rewrite A6, right? Because I'm planning to it. What I want to do:

>act 6 is now 50~60% of its original size
>the history up to A6A3 stays the same, only compressed
>no meenahquest, beforus trolls besides meenah/aranea are as background stuff as ancestors
>each alpha kid has their own flash with an unique song
>alpha kids have one associated element (megazord parts? baseball roles? idk) like the betas have instruments
>each character has its arc resolved (rose and karkat im looking at you)
>more focus on SBURB and less in plot contrivance
>dont change caliborn, hes too perfect for this world
>keep trickster mode but with the CAUCASIAN joke
>no post-retcon, vriskagram or R3M3MB3R
>make davekat more foreshadowed and natural but also mock people who read for shippings
>squared sprites still exist but have better execution. This obviosuly means a better dialogue of them
>keep [S]Collide on the rewrite because its so damn good
>blood is waterbending or some other non-metaphorical power and karkat actually uses it
>a recap on the comic like hussie used to do
>a different ending for gods sake

But I need more writers and someone who can emulate hussie's stlye.
>>
It feels like there's this really big hole in my heart now, like there's something missing
Anyone else?
>>
homestuck should have stayed a story about four kids playing a game
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>>81783385
Same. Had a soft spot for Sollux, Terezi, and Feferi too. Literally my 4 favorite (troll) characters in order.
Outside of the trolls was Snowman, PM (good ending, I guess), Jade, Casey, then the trolls, then, like idunno, Doc and Japanese bitch troll.
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>>81783524
>dave never got to drop it like it's hot when the pimp was in the crib

jack english was an avatar of le
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>THAT FEEL WHEN. YOU WERE. BY A LARGE MARGIN. THE ***BEST*** CHARACTER IN THE STORY.
>THAT FEEL WHEN. EVEN THOUGH YOU SUFFERED A DEFEAT. WHICH WAS RATHER AMBIGUOUS??? YOU WILL BE MORE AND BETTER REMEMBERED. THAN THE PUNK WIMP TEENS WHO BEAT YOU.

TRULY MY VICTORY IS COMPLETE. EVEN THOUGH IT IS NONEXISTENT.
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>>81783527
Fuck TGT is a masterpiece
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>>81783527
>alpha kids have one associated element (megazord parts? baseball roles? idk) like the betas have instruments

Noble Gases
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>>81783385
>Sollux is still half dead doing nothing
At least he scored.
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>>81782508
Oh my god this is fucking hilarious.

"You ran out of ink too, didn't ya you BASTARDS?"

I've seen this NGE scene a dozen times before but never has it been more fitting than for the finale end of Homestuck.
>>
I hate how the ending isn't really the ending, but the Masterpiece is.
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>>81783505
THATS MY POINT
he was SUPPOSEd to be killed
Hussie details exactly how
that is the whole point of the trickster arc
it's dave's banner in the game
it's why he made glfwidlch
fuck

the whole point is a time loop or a juju can't actually hold LE
he's a time player who control space to a point and has the coat
he has to be killed, not just stopped
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Coulda been worse.
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>>81783389
I did not believe you, and yet I looked for it.

By the way, has anyone tried desperate measures?
Like, maybe there's some meta bullshit you need to do to the site in order to unlock a true ending or something.
Of course not.
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>>81783580
Thats an associated theme for their planets, not characters.
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Where's the coat, Hussie?
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>>81783563
I would much rather see Caliborn victorious than done in by something so lame as Alt-Calliope just showing up out of nowhere and destroying the Green Sun.
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>>81783367
The way it looked to me, Calliope cancelled out LE's immortality, Vriska then used the Juju which presumably let the 4 kids through to finish him off. Why we did not FUCKING SEE THIS is beyond me.
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>>81783592
>here lies karkat
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>>81783524
>tfw we could have had this ending if Dave had stopped being a pussy about his time powers sooner
goddammit, dave. the time shit fight scenes with him and dirk were satisfying though
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>>81783632
Could it have been?
>>
I'm rereading and having fun again. What about you guys?
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>>81783558
he wasnt a pimp
LE was a pimp because caliborn sought to own and control women, as well as ran shit like a MOFO
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So, do we know what happened during the 48 squiddle session, and how the squiddles are related to the Horrorterrors? We know the squiddle session (or sessions if we assume a scratch) was successful and they created Beforus/Alternia because of the 48 troll zodiac signs, but who created the squiddle session, if the C1 session (Cherubs) wasn't a game that could create a new universe?

Going back to the horrorterrors, they seem to be connected to the squiddles as well, obviously. But why isn't this explained concretely? If the squiddles are supposed to be representations of the horrorterrors, does that mean the horrorterrors were players?
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>>81783527
>Baseball Roles
Do they get to go to the Invitational?
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>>81783664
Absolutely. We could have gotten a PSYCHE-OUT!! and another 3 month pause.
>inb4 "is a psyche-out not exactly what we got"
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>>81783648
That's what I was thinking as well. I need to reread the juju bits from act 6 to understand it better, but I was expecting the original 4 to just explode out the fucking house and slice shit up.
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>>81783689
Do you believe feferi is fat too
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>>81783683
I plan to reread it sometime, but jesus christ that's an undertaking. I first caught up during Scratch's narration, and even that took me a week of constant reading.
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>>81783713
Not as fat as Vriska.
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>>81783634
It's too late for that man. It's too late.

I've tried coping with this for the past 2 years and now I'm accepting that Homestuck is over...It's not the greatest thing it once was to me and now it's just sorta mediocre. It's over now and I'm accepting of the fact. You should too, /co/mrade. It's all over for now.
>>
mass suicide anyone?
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>>81783385
At the very least it'll be better

I do agree with the one guy, without the epilogue, PS is kind of lackluster.
The problem now though, is the way Hussie wrote it, it seems like the epilogue is now an afterthought, something he's doing as damage control
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>>81783648
Nnnnnnnnno.
No.
Clocks decide immortality.
All Green Sun does is supply First Guardians with powers, and LE abused this power to shit rainbow lasers.
>>
After waking up it really hit me at how inconclusive this ending was. It's actually a pretty good reflection of Hussie's relationship with his fans now. The lovingly crafted well done animation represents the still rabid fandom while the complete lack of writing and story represents just how much Hussie just did not care about this comic at the end.

I was planning a reread after the end, but unless the epilogue, that he might not even do, is really good I'll probably pass on that.
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>>81783474
>Karkat/Vriska
>Nepeta shipped it red and hates it for opposing her OTP
>it never fucking happens in the story and Karkat fell for Terezi instead

The fuck was the cat troll thinking?
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>the house shoots energy at LE

>the energy than returns to the house while the door opens

He got Homestuck.
>>
are the god tier kids still immortal? is rose going to have to watch her wife get old and die?
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>>81783774
Has anyone ever tried hijacking a rocket yet? We could all fly off into the sun like pieces of garbage.
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>>81783544
I think that most of us feel the same way.
I am a ghost, I feel like something is missing and I can't pass away.
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>>81783683
I was planning on rereading the whole thing, but I don't know if I want to anymore after knowing how it ends so unsatisfactorily
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>>81783794
it was a shipping table, she had accounted for all possible ships her notes simply specified her stance on each
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>>81783774
You first.
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>>81783689
Well first off, the Squiddles Session was a joke.
Secondly, the Cherub session takes place on Post-Apocalyptic Alpha Earth. All the shitty JPEG Statues of Liberty were promotional items for Ancestor Dave's SBAHJ movie.
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>>81783779
The animation implied that rainbow eyeball shit was due to the broken clock. All that massive energy was pouring into Caliborn's eyes.

Then presumably right after the kids teleport in and beat is ass.
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>>81783794
>gamzee/terezi
>probably not!
lol
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>>81783817
Yes. It's great.
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>>81783817
yup
because Roxy is too stupid to make slabs
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>>81783774
Sure
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>>81783820
It's not even just the comic, actually, but also knowing that HSG is basically gone forever. I dunno I've broken down about this like a few times already tonight/today.
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>>81783852
I just noticed that
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>>81783779
All I know is the whole plan was to use an exploit to make him killable, I'm assuming that getting rid of the Green Sun is, lamely, that exploit.
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>>81783648
Green sun had nothing to do with LE's powers or immortality, that's just for first guardians. All Calliope destroying the green sun seemed to accomplish was making space break apart and get sucked into its black hole
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>>81783862
that's pathetic and disgusting and you should probably just end yourself now to make it easier for everyone
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>>81783683
In years, maybe. When it will feel all fresh and new. I got into Homestuck right when Rose discovered her land, and I had been following it in and out ever since. Hell, I think the first time I ever clicked on mspa was when John enetered in his land and all I kept hearing was Doctor play as I tried to figure out the website.

It's too much time and effort to go through and undertaking reading all of that again, for now.

Plus, after Hivebent the comic took a nose dive and became more shitty for me.
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>>81783880
but it isn't
his powers aren't green sun related
which i figure hussie forgot
he'd lose his omniscience
not his actual abilities
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>>81783907
True.
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>>81783624
Yeah, we basically stopped short of the most significant events on the kids' timelines. They still have to go fight Caliborn, get sucked into the juju, then come out of the juju and go straight into fighting Lord English

also wow, I just realized that Caliborn's masterpiece has audio
>>
We didn't see the LE fight and his death because we didn't see the Caliborn's final fight and LE's birth.

It's pottery
>>
The important question is will the MAP ever be finished
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>>81783851
Well either way LE's unconditional immortality comes from the fact that he got to break his God Tier clock, meaning that he literally and absolutely cannot be killed.
>>81783880
B-b-b-but what does it exploit. Without Green Sun, he's still untouchable. Hell even if they did beat him down, he would just get up as John did back when Jack killed him.
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>>81783931
i hate the fuckin pottery meme
>>
the Cairo overcoat is powered by the green sun

destroying it meant LE cannot escape
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>>81783747
I guess so.
>>
I've been thinking about questions we still have no answers to. Feel free to add.

What happened to the Sprites?
The Dream Bubbles?
The Ghosts?
The Consorts?
The Felt?
When in the timeline do the kids fight Caliborn?
Where did he get the Ring from?
How did Vriska's coat become the Cairo Overcoat?
What happened to Ms. Paint?
Bec Noir?
What happened to Aranea?
Did Vriska survive?
Did the Matriorb plot go anywhere?
Are new Trolls going to be made?
What is The Ultimate Riddle?
Did that Black Hole made from Jack English lead to Caliborn's session?
What about Tavrosprite?
How did the Genisis Frog just suddenly lead out from the volcano?
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>>81783544
Yep. I haven't been as active in the fandom as I once was for like 2 years now, but it's weird. It's like finding out a best friend you lost contact with died.

>>81783907
Fuck off, man, even if it wasn't the best at times it was an important comic to a lot of people.

>>81783862
I started to tear up a little when I put on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJWO4WaQh_Y but other than that it's just this weird feeling.
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>>81782508
Fantastic.
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>>81783916
>>81783826
>>81783731
Try it friends, the comic is so goddamn long that I forgot most of the jokes already. And I'm picking up new nuances to the characters that my young self didn't pick up, like Sollux being moody as fuck.
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>>81783943
THEY
GLITCH
THE
GAME
AND
PULL
LORD
ENGLISH
OUT
OF
IT
LIKE
WITH
THE
TRICKSTERS
SO
HE
LOSES
ALL
POWER
AND
BECOMES
KILLABLE
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So davekat will happen in the epilogue, right?
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>>81783940
no
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>>81783339
They want to prove that they aren't shit?
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>>81783919
>>81783919
I'm just stating what seemed to be implied by the animation. I'm making no claims as to it making any sense.
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>>81782993
>>81783265
there planet has the statues of liberty, it is the planet that will eventually become caliborn / calliope's planet. It will be destroyed by a giant cherub at some point in the future and then caliborn will play sburb and he will never finish it, ending the cycle.
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>>81783947
Yeah honestly

> DUDE ALL SYMBOLISM AND CALLBACKS ARE STUPID LMAO
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>>81783943
As an addendum, they couldn't even handle kid Caliborn and had to seal him away. What hope do they have against English.
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>>81783966
why was sollux half dead?
>>
Hey, I'm just wondering, is there some kind of chat or a group chat where all the homestuck fans are hanging around at? It might be bad or even cancerous, but I would like to feel like I'm in the community again talking about Homestuck again.
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>>81783952
where is that ever said ever at all
its a fucking juju
not a guardian
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>>81783981
Remind me what happens with the tricksters and pulling people out the game?
>>
it still feels fake
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>>81782593
I remember this comic. They actually had an XKCD meetup at those coordinates and time.

Well, in the actual XKCD comic, I mean.
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>>81784012
The B1 never got a shot at him. He sealed them immediately because B1 could rek his shit. Be fucked b2 up pretty well before getting sealed tho
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>>81783300
Pre-retcon Vriska and pre-retcon Terezi finding themselves again and post-retcon Terezi remembering everything isn't exactly what I call "pointless".

Was it also pointless, that Dirk and Dave had their big talk to vent about stuff, where Dave even says, that it won't change much so boldly?

And it's not clear what happend with the black hole and paradox space. If it consumed everything, just a huge chunk of it or whatever. Especially since space doesn't work there as we might think it does.
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>>81783966
maybe you should separate the important ones and the "not so relevant" ones in two separate lists
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>>81784035
the coat isn't a juju you moron, when it teleports onto him it had the first guardian warp effect

It's just Vriskas coat with magic shit in it
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>>81783367
>that's his whole thing
Pretty sure his whole thing is "Already here"
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>>81783981
How?
The juju works only once, doesn't it?
Or do you mean using the Unstuck powers?
Because golly gee none of that is shown in the flash.
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>>81784027
Because he has 2 video game lives in sgrub because he hacks
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>>81783982
The only reason Karkat was with Dave and Jade is that he's there to babysit their puppies
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>>81784012
>OG 4 kids
>go to the furthest ring with the horror terrors to aid in the fight, using the best of all possible timelines in the right order for every move
>including the other 4 kids, there is absolute hope that they will win and no doubt as they surge forward and any aids LE has are taken and thrown into a void even he cannot find while no one dies or is brought back
>include TZ and Vriska, best of the best of all possible timelines and the most perfect luck to achieve it
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>>81783367
how is he stuck in a loop? where are you getting that from?
>>
I know some people are wondering about Gamzee.
He's sliced in half, and during the last few moments of his shitty clown live the other half of his sad floppy body is sucked into the black hole. Which might mean he's dead. I dunno. One second a black hole's a teleporter another one it's an actual black hole
>>
I wonder how non-Homestuck readers read this thread.
>>
Have you shed a tear for Homestuck yet, /co/? No shame if you have.

I wasn't going to, but then I recalled all the close friends I made through it, all the hours spent geeking over updates with friends and with HSG, all the time I spent on probably shitty cosplay that was still fun as hell. Homestuck was a lot more to me than the comic itself.

Anyone else hit unexpectedly hard by this?
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>>81784027
Because he's a Gemini and/or Seer of Doom.
>>
> people actually think the kids pop out to fight LE

lmao
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>>81784093
What i mean is what was the purpose of it
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>>81783813
So what you're saying is it's a pokeball
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>>81783794
>Terezi/Gamzee
>probably hot
lmao
>>
>none of it is shown so none of it matters

You are all shit at mysteries and figuring stuff out goddamn.
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>>81783997
their*
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>>81784084
said where?
>>81784091
that juju works once per person
it was never used on LE because him and his sister never combined the codes
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>>81783973
Dude, Sollux was always moody as fuck, I can tell when he was first being written during Hivebent.

And, not thanks, friend. It's going to take too long plus I'm just not invested in Homestuck in the way I used to be. Again, I loved Homestuck alot, just like everyone else here does or did. I was really into it during Act4 and the first half of Act 5, but during act 5.2 when romance and the shipping became a legitimate thing in the comic plus the influx of all the troll fans that sorta invaded the fandom with it's OC's and it's shipping and porn, it left a bad taste in my mouth.

some day, maybe, I'll go back and read it all again. In the years to come...
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>>81784154
So there wouldn't be plotholes? I don't know.
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>>81784177
>said where

It isn't.
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>>81783241
> No but I mean what happened to them AFTER they got defeated?

Without their leader, they won't do shit.

> so... just gay singularity?

If you think of it that way. Yes.

> how did he even got the crowbar?

It wasn't with him bit in range with Slicks body
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>>81784149
It was flashing with their symbols. A door appeared in it. What are we supposed to think?
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>went to bed last night when /hsg/ was all "X hours for the end!"
>now it's "Hussie cucked you out of a good ending"

Top kek, as they say.
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>>81784149
>Caliborn uses the weapon sucks the kids in, weapon can now only be used against him
>Vriska uses the weapon LE is sucked in
>Everyone is now Homestuck

I think this is more likely personally. Bad end for the kids, but that's a heroic life for ya.
>>
So who died?
>>
Stopped reading like two years ago.

Did any pairings get confirmed by the end?
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>>81784196
exactly.
so saying green zappy shit makes it a guardian or that its vriska's coat or whatever
we don't fucking know
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>>81783973
I go back and reread acts 1 and 2 sometimes because they're pretty quick, but I should try and get through the rest of it.
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>>81784169
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>>81784208
To show that they sacrificed themselves so that LE could get trapped inside.
>>
Weren't the winners of this game supposed to become the gods of the new universe? Why didn't that happen here?
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>>81783544
I feel like this page with it's talk of absence and desolation and wind skimming hollow reeds is a pretty apt description of how I feel
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001982

>drank for the finale last night
>hungover today
>gray and very rainy day
it's all so fitting
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>>81784208
Maybe that it works the same way it worked before? (during the masterpiece)
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>>81784226
Nobody.
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>>81784240
So, what, the purpose of the door is so Lord English can just walk through it willingly?
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>>81783624
Fucking this
>>
>>81784226
Everyone but the people on the lilypad.
So Cloun might've finally died. It being bisected and getting sucked into a black hole to do it.
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>>81784235
It IS Vriska's coat, which doesn't matter, but the only things that have that warp effect are first guardians. You just have to use your brain.
>>
>>81782470
>Not spoilering
I'm only on act 3, ha en mercy
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>>81784230
Rosemary and Davejade, maybe Johnroxy
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>get to the epilogue
>expect a PSYCHE and John waking up on Lowas at the start of the adventure
>it doesn't happen

Hussie you FUCKING HACK
>>
>>81784254
They're the only humans and trolls in a word full of chess people. They are an existence that's exponentially above everyone else. They're gods.

They just like walks in the park and soccer that's all.
>>
>>81784254
Because hack.
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>>81784293
>just gotta believe
>that a guardian of a universe is a coat
no son, just no
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>>81784146
Yeah, alot of people are. Howver, Homestuck has been dead and done to me for years, so while I'm happy to see it end, it doesn't leave that much of a big impact on my life anymore.

And being frank and honest with you, yeah, when I saw it update this year and I saw for the fact that it was really ending this time, like REALLY ENDING, I got sad, but I have accepted that Homestuck is over, for me.

I'm Ok.
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>>81784281
No you dipshit, it sucks him in.

Just like it sucked the beta kids in.
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>>81784287
Cloun never died, he become 1/4 of Lord English. READ THE MASTERPIECE
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>>81784226
our hopes
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>>81784230
Rose/Kanaya
And the end was vague enough to be in favor of Dave/Jade and John/Roxy however also vague enough to not be actually "confirmed".
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>>81784281
The weapon sucks the enemy in. Caliborn shows us this.
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I can't believe Lord English, Universe and Reality Destroyer, never managed to kill off a single main character.

He killed off Calliope, who was brought back anyway so it doesn't matter, Hussie (who is barely and actual character) and X amount of doomed ghosts.

What a waste of a villain.
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>>81784326
The only thing that sucks is that shitty comic as a whole.
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>>81784327
I'M TALKING ABOUT AFTER IT HAPPENED. WHEN THERE WAS STILL A HALF LEFT
YOU QUADRUPLE NIGGER
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>>81784343
i said the same fucking thing
Gamzee has a high kill count
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>>81784326
Then what was the purpose of the door
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>>81784167
Every time someone tries to explain it they still end up with tons of plot holes.

Hussie just didn't think things through, sorry.
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>>81783474
>>81783794
>Vriskat cucks exist
Holy fuck. Yeah, let's pair the insecure asshole and the self-absorbed bitch together. What could go wrong?
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>>81784368
Nobody's able to explain Caliborn getting the Ring of Void properly for instance.
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>>81783966
To answer all of these as best I can

>What happened to the Sprites?
I'm assuming based on what we hear from the Trolls about their sprites, sprites just die when the session that spawned them ends or creates their universe. This is never actually stated or confirmed anywhere.

>The Dream Bubbles?
Presumably destroyed with the rest of space thanks to the green sun black hole.

>The Ghosts?
Same I guess? I really am not sure what exactly destroying the green sun is meant to accomplish.

>The Consorts?
Irrelevant.

>The Felt?
Ded

>When in the timeline do the kids fight Caliborn?
It is a mystery but my best guess is sometime after they all settle in their new universe?

>Where did he get the Ring from?
None of the ring stuff has ever made any sense, it just seems to appear and disappear wherever it needs to. Aranea's explanation about it said something similar I think, about it somehow disappearing and reappearing elsewhere in paradox space with no explanation.

How did Vriska's coat become the Cairo Overcoat?
Kurloz did something to it and gave it to LE at some point. That's all we know.

What happened to Ms. Paint?
Bec Noir?
Lived happily ever after on Jade's planet I guess.

What happened to Aranea?
Irrelevant to be honest. I kind of like how she never appeared again after her failed attempt to hijack the story, it felt like a fitting end.

Did Vriska survive?
Probably not.

Did the Matriorb plot go anywhere?
Of course it did, I doubt Kanaya would just completely ignore it once she got to Earth.

What is The Ultimate Riddle?
If I remember way back, Nannasprite said the Ultimate Riddle was the journey John and his friends were about to undertake. So maybe it had something to do with the universe's creation?

*continuing*
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>>81784343
Bec Noir killed a whole lot more named characters really.
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>>81784343
he killed tons of universes for fun

if you want "personal" villains you have Noir, Gamzee, Eridan, Condy, etc

even Lil LE fucked up the kids and banished them
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>>81784146
No. I never got that deep into the fandom and never made any friends around it. I guess I sort of regret that. Once the hiatuses started coming I stopped hanging around /hsg/ and the like despite actively keeping up with the comic. Now it just sort of feels weird the something that's been going on for seven years of my life has "ended" more or less. I can't say there's much that actively goes on for that long in the same vein as homestuck. Fuck, I can't imagine what it must have been like for people that started the dark tower books with the gunslinger.

More than anything I think I'm just interested to see what Hussie does next once he's really done with Homestuck, after the epilogue and video game.
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>>81784226
All the ghosts, Sollux, Vriska and Aradia.
>>81784287
>Everyone but the people on the lilypad.
PM and WV weren't on the lilypad, neither were the carapacians and consorts.
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>>81784404
consorts are shown to be alive
sprites die
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>>81784167
We're past the "DURR ARE CALLIOPE AND CALIBORN THE SAME PERSON?" phase. We are past having to anticipate and figure shit out. It was the 4/13 of Seventh year. The end. The conclusion.
And instead we didn't get shit.
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>>81784366
It is the thing through which one is sucked

If we're going with this theory, it's just because it looks neat.
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>>81784437
>Sprites die

>ARquius makes it to Caliborn

????
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>>81784366
That't interpretation area.

My take on it is, that it transports the target to page one of their adventure, since it's definetely a transporting metajuju according to the incident with it inactive form and Johns arm.
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>>81784465
well ya see
the game is over
you slut
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There's going to be another update. I just know it. He wouldn't build up this huge fight spanning years between Caliborn/Lord English vs the kids and then completely ignore it.
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Reminder that we didn't get satisfying character ends until PS' epilogue, which came on a week later
Reminder that even so, Hussie seems to consider the epilogue a chore, rather than something he wants to do
Reminder that despite this, it would be the first time in a while Hussie wouldn't be writing towards a specific goal in mind (The ending), so he'd be back in his natural element of writing by the seat of his pants
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>>81784146
Nope.
I never met anyone through it, I never discussed it with anyone, I've never even recommended it.
I've spent long hours reading and rereading it and listening to the music and having a good time, but I feel no unease over its end. Like closing a book, I feel a little glum that it couldn't go on longer, but also a sensation of conclusion.
Not satisfactory conclusion, mind you, but the book is closed in my heart and I'm okay with it.
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>>81784461
bullshit
The kids weren't sucked in through a door
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>>81782932
>At least in homestuck we see what the main characters really end up as instead of just having some psycho vision.

Are you sure about that? It's not really made clear whether the future sections were real or not, since after they happened we cut back to John.
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>Roxy has to watch John get one hit killed before her eyes

holy shit Hussie why
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>>81783527

Fuck no this is terrible. It would be the exact same shit only even more predictable and shorter.

Everything that's happened so far is okay if it only gets some REAL PAYOFF.

If the epilogue wraps up a few unresolved character arcs like Karkat's(which would be fucking easy to do in a couple of pages) and just shows the full chain of events leading to Caliborn's masterpiece AND what happens after Vriska releases the kids from the juju, it will be perfect.
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I can't believe homestuck was an anime all along
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>>81784516
what
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>>81784500
How can you tell when it's in shitty claymation?
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>>81784424
>I guess I sort of regret that
You shouldn't. Everyone in the fandom is garbage. Even me. Even you. No one needs to go seeking out ways to synergize that shit.
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>>81783367
>get him stuck in a loop
>LE is stuck in a dead session, in a dead universe,left behind


We just making up shit now I guess
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>>81784516
>Jade gets to spend eternity in a small white house with all her friends and loved ones
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>>81784500
Because shit was a tiny clay thing. Caliborn also didn't have his cheecks. And characters had no faces.
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>>81784540
the masterpiece is the end of the kids lives
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After a day of wandering around living my daily life as usual I still couldn't get the finale off of my mind. Scrolling through /hsg/ didn't make it any better, so I finally got it out of my head through the only tried and true method I know.

An hour-long wank session to homesmut.
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>>81784525

Whoever started the homestuck anime meme should be killed for doing this to us
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>>81784544
the activation of the juju is completely different
In the Masterpiece it just floats there and absorbs their souls, it doesn't land and transform into a full-size house. Even Caliborn would be able to pull off that much detail with shitty claymation.
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>>81784404
>Did that Black Hole made from Jack English lead to Caliborn's session?
My best guess is it led somewhere to Paradox Space, and Gamzee probably got sucked into it and eventually got help making it back to earth and the kids' universe from Kurloz or something. It shouldn't lead to Caliborn's session because Gamzee first appears before Calliope and Caliborn when they're still on the remnants of dead Earth; Gamzee enters Caliborn's session at the same time Caliborn does. The question of how exactly Gamzee gets from being trapped in a fridge on a planet that got blown up to being on dead Earth with baby Caliborn/Calliope is still one of the biggest unanswered questions of Homestuck.

>What about Tavrosprite?
Dead

>How did the Genisis Frog just suddenly lead out from the volcano?
I think throwing the two rings into the forge triggers it? I think that was said at some point by the trolls but honestly it's been so long I'm not 100%.
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>Alpha kids are stuck on dead Earth without a time player after the Masterpiece

do they just kill themselves
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>tfw we will never see Caliborn and Gamzee fighting the kids anime style
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Anything of Jade cucking Karkat yet
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>>81784555
And Lord English.
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>>81784563
it was color coded, it was pretty clear who was who
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>>81784132
Well, the teleporter black hole was the result of a kernelsprite being activated or whatever by another kernelsprite, which acted like a Black Hole to take Caliborn to his personal Medium.
The Green Hole was a product of the Green Sun's Death.
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>>81783779
>>81783904

The Green Sun has EVERYTHING TO DO with LE's powers. He inherited those powers from Doc Scratch, and it's how he is able to teleport around and be already here. Without the Sun, he can't escape anymore. However, it's NOT his source of immortality, that's the clock which is unrelated.
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>>81784146
i've never cried about it, but i got sad when i realised that it's actually over
it's been a part of my life for like. just under a third of my life
and i made some of my closest friends through hs (even though some of them stopped reading it a while back)
so yeah im pretty upset but i'll cope
super pissed about karkat's arc though, he was my fav character (and my 'patron troll' or whatver ppl called it) and he ends the comic by being fucking useless
also wtf no terezi
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WHAT HAPPENS TO HONK FRIENDS OTHER HALF AFTER THE MASTERPIECE
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>>81783962
Yeah, man.

Once you learn to accept the ending is here and that it's over, then you can move on. You might linger still, but lingering just leads to depression and such.
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this was never used
http://plazmataz.tumblr.com/post/36705203671/snippet-of-something-im-working-on-for-the-comic
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Guys.

Seriously, guys.

Listen.

Listen, guys.

I constantly see this being posted.

So listen, guys, seriously.

The green sun fed its powers to the first guardians, giving them the teleportation abilities.

That's all.

Green Sun has nothing to do with the flashy rainbow powers.

It was stated that the rainbow energy is the source that governs over everything that's eternal.

Caliborn absorbed it from the clock that was governing eternals (god tiers).

So why would destroying Green Sun make LE loose his flashy powers?
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>>81784320

The COAT isn't you fucking retard, LORD ENGLISH is, because he's literally Doc Scratch.

Lord English used HIS First Guardian powers to teleport the coat to him.
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>>81784606
John can just retcon them out
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>>81784332
Correct.
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>>81784689
Wasn't this a plazmataz song anyway?
seriously where is volume 10
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>>81784651
I'm curious, where did you meet your "close" friends? Online or at cons?

I wish I was able to actually take in a physical aspect of the Homestuck fandom when it was at its biggest.
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>>81784634
Sure, but because of the format even big detailed were missing and the door was just a little part of one square of the logo.
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>>81783067
Vriska explained it, they needed a wallet to store the earth
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>Obligatory thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXKIdyDWJTg
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>>81784695
he's in the juju
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>>81784465
Welp I forgot about this. So... the masterpiece can't take place after they've all gone to the new universe?

Goddammit all of this just makes even less sense now.
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>>81784689
epilogue
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>>81784652
Remains dead
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>>81784695
Didn't that stop working?
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>>81784694
I agree but how did he use his First Guardian powers in wherever Hussie was since they don't work there?
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>>81784465
Fuck.
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I'm not even mad. I'm just bewildered. How the hell am I supposed to make a timeline of events (a project I was very excited for) if I have to assume how events went down, and the final destination of multiple characters is a large unknown?

Also, are we ever going to get something even remotely similar to Homestuck in the future? Homestuck filled a very particular niche, and now it's gone. We'll never get anything quite like this again.

If it's any consolation, at least the ending wasn't as shitty as BKEW theorized. Just fuck that guy.
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>>81784643
What do you think we're talking about, nerd?
We're talking about how could anyone kill English, not whether he's going to warp to the Neverland and do a silly dance.
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A bad end to a shitty comic.

Were you guys honestly surprised?
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>>81784287
CAN'T
K
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P

T....D
H.....O
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CLOUN
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>>81784689
Wasn't he also working on a Karkat song?

http://plazmataz.tumblr.com/post/81428430884/this-is-a-homestuck-song-ive-been-working-on

Well, I guess it doesn't matter. Just like Karkat.
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>>81784796
Not really.
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>>81784643
But we never see LE teleport or do anything green sun-related like flash with green sun energy.
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>>81784809
>Karkat's final role was "Dave's boyfriend"
>Doesn't even get to be that in the end
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>GUYS HOMESTUCK IS OVER!!!!

>game to most likely explain the creation of sburb
>upcoming epilogue
>tons of fanwork incoming because lolvague
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>>81784691

It doesn't.

Destroying the Green Sun makes it so he cannot escape. No teleporting away with his coat. And it also presumably takes away a lot of his offensive power, not that he actually used those powers.

Without that, the house juju/kids inside it could presumably deal with him.
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>>81784847
>the game

who fucking cares
the game isn't coming out for another 5 years
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>>81784813
We did in his very first appearance. He used them to get dressed and never did anything with them ever again. That's right. His Green Sun powers served no narrative purpose.
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> Everyone loved the shit out of cascade

> People still expected a non-thought provoking ending that serves you every single connection on a silver plate
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>>81784834
>Gamzee and Vriska both played more important roles than all the other trolls
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>>81784501
I think the time-imagery around the planet before that scene is supposed to be a "years in the future".
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Could plastichallway or other drawfag do this on his style? Thanks.
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>collide made me feel things
>I felt nothing during act 7

Thanks
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>>81784834
You forgot him being a "useless" character and dealing with that realization, since Vriska took his Job.
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>>81784872
I was expecting a shitty twist at least.

I didn't even get that.
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>>81784787

Actually, First Guardians can teleport OTHER things anywhere, they only can't teleport THEMSELVES while in the Furthest Ring.

LE teleported the coat to HIM, and presumably gets around the no teleporting rule by teleporting it around while he's inside it.
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>>81784716
mix of both.
don't keep in contact with the ones from cons much anymore
prob because a lot of the people who went to cons around here were just weird nerds with like. no social skills at all. myself included (although i havent gone to a con for like 3 years at this point, and i like to pretend i've gotten better).
the real friends that i've kept are the ones i met online either through rp or shitposting on MSPA forums a couple years back.
good times.
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>>81784796
Honestly, not really. It ended, in a way I knew that was not gonna satisfy me and wrap up everything, but it wasn't that shity.
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>>81784872
We expected anything
Not nothing
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>>81784872
I didn't particularly want a run down of "Here's a montage of all the characters living happily ever after" or anything. I just wanted some of the still-remaining holes in the plot to be filled or explained.
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>>81784872
Honestly, this. If the ending wrapped up every single plot thread in a coherent and satisfying way, we wouldn't even be here discussing it. We'd just fuck off and go on with our lives.
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WHY THE FUCK DO I EXIST

WHY THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO SUFFER ALL THE TIME
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>>81784872
>literally the most predictable thing possible
>""""""thought provoking""""""

Next you'll be telling me it's shitty on purpose because "le fuck your narrative conventions."
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>>81784424
>I guess I sort of regret that.
I can get that, but no sense regretting it. As the fanbase got larger, it became rpretty hard to find fans worth striking up any lasting relationship with. Out of all the friends I made through it, I only am still in touch with a handful of them, all of whom fell out of the fandom years ago or are like me and weren't actively in the fandom but still were excited about it.

>>81784651
I honestly don't know where the tears came from, guess it was just a weird rush of emotion that happened when I took stock of all the shit that's actually happened to me because of HS over the last 6 years I've been reading. hell, a year or two before I read HS I was like 11 and a Problem Sleuth fan. MSPA formed a lot of my sense of humor. I'm a little upset over Karkat's arc too, he was the guy I most strongly identified with. Still is too, honestly.

>>81784716
i'm not they guy you replied to, but a mixture of both! in my experience, it usually went like
>meet someone on tumblr, strike up a friendship
>find out they live close enough to go to the same cons
>hang out with them at cons, keep up via tumblr/skype/texting/etc in the meantime
>repeat step 3
or
>meet someone at a con. get their contact info
>become internet buds or meat buds if they live in the area

>>81784796
Homestuck is legitimately really good taken as a whole, though. Reading it serially soured a lot of people's perception.

>>81784847
>the game's not going to be an arcade-style beat-em-up with deep special move and Fraymotif systems
who the fuck caaaaaaares

>>81784743
Nope. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJWO4WaQh_Y is the true thread theme.
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>>81784981
>We'd just fuck off and go on with our lives.

I wanted to do that though. I wanted to be satisfied and move on.
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>>81784946
Ahh, I envy you then.

I go to cons alot, and I have social experience, I can act myself accoridingly, but it's a shame trying top connect to someone else in a fandom because they're all super-shy and awkward. People think I'm a "normal" person but deep down I'm insecure, shy, and just looking for a friend like everyone else.
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>>81782503
A perfect epilogue could not solve everything wrong with this ending.

Everything went perfectly. There were no twists, nothing. Vriska said "this is how it's going to work", the comic showed us what good guys would fight what bad guys, and everything went perfectly and every good guy beat (or survived) every bad guy.

Nobody learned anything because John and his retcon magic were here to plop down the Vriskotron Sessionfixer 8000 on them. Except maybe Terezi, who has the luxury of getting her GO self's wisdom, because magic also.

Speaking of Vriska, she got everything she wanted the way she wanted it. She fixed the meteor crew's problems, her plan went nearly without a hitch, she got the juju, she led the army, she beat LE with the juju, and presumably she gets to live forever the a new universe.

Also, she was proved right about Pages being worthless. Jake stunned Caliborn and defeated his irrelevant minions and that's all; Tavros gathered an army and promptly gave it to Meenah; GCATavros is a joke and either DAOOTS or suffering forever. So much for promises of fearsome power!

There's no justice in this ending. Nothing. Not even epilogue fuckery could fix that shit.

>>81782642
It was meant to show you how magic didn't fix your problems.
Then comic Hussie hammered the point home when talking to Caliborn about italian plumbers.

And finally, everything paid off when Hussie fixed everything using magic, trolling the reader in the most magnificent way possible. Just kidding, he's most likely a hack who couldn't stick to his story's philosophy.
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>>81784999
>Next you'll be telling me it's shitty on purpose because "le fuck your narrative conventions."

Genuinely though, that's about the only reason I can see at this point for Huss to be fucking avoiding showing any confrontation between the kids and the big bad at any cost as he has been since claymation.
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TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOOOWN
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>>81784907
same
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I can't believe I actually would have preferred a harry potter ending to this
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>>81785019
>>the game's not going to be an arcade-style beat-em-up with deep special move and Fraymotif systems
At least Collide used a fuckton of Fraymotifs. That made me really happy, even if the flash could have balanced the sprites and artwork a lot better.
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>>81785043
These words will fill me with rage until the end of time.
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>>81785063
>Speaking of Vriska, she got everything she wanted the way she wanted it. She fixed the meteor crew's problems, her plan went nearly without a hitch, she got the juju, she led the army, she beat LE with the juju, and presumably she gets to live forever the a new universe.

Wrong, Vriska died/ceased to exist along with the dream bubbles.
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>>81784999
Being thought provoking has nothing to do with being predictable or unpredictable.

Homestucks ending is thought provoking, as we see in the endless discussions, since the connection between the puzzle pieces aren't clear.
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>>81785072
>>81785026
If there is one thing that Homestuck taught me, it's that meta-narrative is the last refuge of the hack.
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>>81785019
You sound like a nice guy.
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>>81785063
>Terezi gets all of her memories
>literally nothing comes out of it
It's a little baffling.
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>>81785137
Provoking thoughts of suicide and murder doesn't count as "thought provoking".
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Fuck the trolls. They ruined the entire story.

Where are my captchalogue shenanagnagingsngs
Where is my Grist meme
Where are all the game mechanics that actually made SBURB seem like an actual fucking game

god damnit Hussie
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Remember to buy hiveswap
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>>81785176
That was just to shut down people complaining that the retcon was shit and ruined character arcs.
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>>81785137
There's ways to incite discussion without leaving major plot threads, the fate of every character and the entire final battle up to interpretation.

Not resolving anything isn't being clever.
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>>81785176
>a little baffling
that really sums up this whole flash. I feel almost like its super disjointed. Like we're shown small pieces of how its going down but then it never actually connects and just ignores new plot developments.
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>>81785176
So Dave and Dirks meet up was also "baffling"? It had literally the same outcome as mentioned by Dave
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>>81785096
Exactly, Cascade is what made me want a beat-em-up so badly. Fuck it, I'll donate to another Kickstarter for that.

>>81785046
that's the great thing about cons in my experience, though. people who are normally super shy and awkward, like nerds, get a chance to be outgoing because everyone at a con is pretty much guaranteed to have SOME common ground. Especially if you're in cosplay. Even small shit like offering someone a cigarette can strike up a friendship or at the very least interesting (for better or worse) conversation.

>>81785172
i like to think so, thanks mate. here's a cute jade for your kindness
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>>81785137
>since the connection between the puzzle pieces aren't clear.
That isn't a good thing though, it's the result of shitty writing.
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the animation for act 7 was nice to look at.

i don't feel that anything got resolved at all. i know homestuck is a very convoluted mess, but I guess Andrew dropped the ball on making a satisfying conclusion.

although to be fair if I was working on the same project for 7 years, i'd be eager to get it done too, as sloppy as it might be.
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>>81785227
Because it was made four years ago
It serves more as a scene leading up to a final part, not the final part itself.
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>>81785206
REMEMBER THAT HIVESWAP WON'T COME OUT FOR AT LEASE 3 YEARS BECAUSE THE ODD GENTLEMAN FUCKED HUSSIE OVER AND TOOK HALF OF HIS GODDAMN KIKESTARTER MONEY

FUCKIN' GODDAMN IT HUSSIE
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Reminder not to fall for Hussie's lies. Doubt him until 4/13 is over.
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>>81785183
We got a little bit of that with the scratch kids, who I honestly don't think were that bad or anything. That arc just dipped really hard at some points.
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>>81783904
English is using Scratch's body. Scratch is a First Guardian.

English has green sun and First Guardian powers. It's how he gets around space.
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>>81785183
Honestly, I don't think the trolls were the problem.

The John-Karkat banter in act 4 and early act 5 is some of the best dialogue in the comic, and in the end, Alternia was interesting, even if Act 5 Act 1 could have been a bit shorter, or had less characters.

The Scratch ruined the story
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>>81785224
The final battle was concluded. We see LE being sucked into the Juju
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>best girl never got anyone to snuggle with
>she's forever alone and possibly not even in the new universe since she wasn't shown there

1T HURTS
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>>81785246
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>>81785227
That's because it was clearly storyboarded years ago, long before the script got anywhere near this point.

I'm willing to believe this was written before retcon shenanigans or Caliborn's masterpiece or even Game Over.
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>>81785271
>We see LE being sucked into the Juju
no we don't
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>>81785183
I know they are necessary to the story as intended with the cross-session jack bullshit now, but that was exactly my feelings back in the day.
I don't give a shit about these horn-headed morons, bring back the kids!

And despite growing a bit more attached to a few of the trollcrew, in my heart that sentiment kind of stays.

AND WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU ADD ANOTHER EXTRANEOUS 12 WE'VE GOT ENOUGH BAGGAGE CHARACTERS ALREADY GODDAMNIT
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>>81785236
Those last two posts you replies too were both me.;p
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>>81785255
>>81785255
They were trying to save us by killing Homestuck before Act 7 could have come out.
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>>81785223
But it rightfully didn't.
The retcon was still a cheap cop-out of actually resolving the character's problems.
I mean, Vriska didn't even need to be alive for the ending, what was the point of the retcon?
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>>81785232
Maybe the use of her seer powers just led me the wrong way. I guess was expecting "more" as a result of it.
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>not in a hurry to do the epilogue after that shit ending
>epilogue probably won't come out for another year
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>>81785255
lol, what? did that really happen
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>>81785240
Not if they make sense with the right connections. And even without. Stuff like that makes the Evangelion fanbase last for fucking decades
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>>81785299
lmao whoops, i figured but i already had the first one composed before i saw the second
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Aranea was right.
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ARE YOU EXCITED FOR PROBABLY NOT BOOK 4?

IM EXCITED FOR SHITTY VINYL TROLL FIGURES AND A SCALEMATE RESTOCK!
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I love the fact that the most boring ship was the only ship as confirmed canon in the end. Everything else is open ended.
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>>81785278
the fact that terezi fucking pyrope is absent from the end really shows you how rushed and garbage this is. She's been a major character since act 4
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>>81785295
6:09
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I would rather Hussie spend the rest of his life in the Hiatus preceding Vriskagram to finish the comic right, rather than what we got.
The only good things post-Vriskagram were John/Roxy and [S] Collide.
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>>81785137
a good thought provoking ending leaves you with a mostly finished puzzle. there are pieces not explicitly placed. Those pieces are left in the box, and you can finish the puzzle yourself with some thought.

This ending was hussie leaving the uncompleted puzzle on the table, and he threw out the missing pieces.
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>>81785352
AND A SCALEMATE HANGING FROM A TREE
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>>81785236
>Jade got to be happy and fuck the guy she liked
>WV and PM having weird chess piece sex


Only good things to come of all this
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Has anyone made a complete list of all the unanswered questions, unresolved/dropped story lines, and plot holes yet?

I feel like that's something we need to do.
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God damn it, I finally managed to leave this thread and then you fuckers did this to me.
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>>81785378
FIIIIIIVE
FUCK
ASSSEEEEEEEESSSSSSS
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>Homestuck wasn't played in the ending flash

FUCKING DROPPED
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>>81785352
It could be anything I ever wanted to buy and I still would not buy it.
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>>81785321
Yeah, do you remember the kickstarter project to make SBURB: The game? Look it up, there' tumblr posts and shit about it. Hussie never actually spoke up about it, but it's more than implied that the Odd Gentleman swindled Hussie over half of his kickstarter money because Hussie was abit inept and and didn't keep tabs on the fucking jews that was the Odd Gentleman. Fuck those cocksuckers. Just google it and read up on it.

It's been 3 and a half years since the kickstarter came out for it originally, also.
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>>81785349

This

Aranea did nothing wrong
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Would you have preferred THIS
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>>81785359
>Everything else is open ended.
I like to think that with in a year the new planet degrades into a never ending orgy fueled by the kid's god powers.
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>>81785383
Jack/Ms.Paint and WV/PM must be having crazy sex to produce an entire population of chess people.
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>>81785405
the only possible thing I can think of that I'd be remotely interested in would be Book 4. Preferably with a hussie doodle and signature
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>>81785401
I literally can't even remember the song in the ending flash

Considering this is HS that's pretty fucking weird
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>>81785271
NO WE DON'T THAT'S HALF THE DAMN PROBLEM

Hussie deliberately left what the juju does ambiguous with at least two possible interpretations, and then when it happens he doesn't actually show which of them, if any, are correct. He's fucking with us on purpose, and it's stupid. What does it even achieve in terms of the story?
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>>81785426
That's just one town
You haven't even seen the entire continent of half-dog people
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i havent read any of the recent updates yet but all i have to ask is

did our prince return?
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http://strawpoll.me/7363056
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>>81785323
Oh good, just what we needed. Another decade of /hsg/.
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>>81785343
heh.
:O
;p.
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>>81785448
Compare 6:09 of the ending, with what it did with the kids in the masterpeice.

Also the very next cut is a first person perspective of Caliborn smashing his clock
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>>81785473
Theres an easter egg in a flash where he is with shrek

He was happy
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>>81785362
jesus fuck are you telling me that shot is supposed to be from English's perspective

god fucking dammit all they had to do was insert one short cut of him being pulled toward it and then it would be clear and no one would think he got swallowed by the black hole
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>>81785413
Watch as something like that's going to be shown in the epilogue, just to twist the knife in even further.
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>>81785473
No.
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>>81785479
Oh jesus christ, that is so on the nose.
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http://paperseverywhere.tumblr.com/post/142650608680/heres-a-repost-because-tumblr-is-a-huge-butt-xux
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>>81785278
will she see her again?
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>>81785362
Lord English is nowhere to be seen.
Unless you're claiming it is meant to be first person, which Homestuck has not used as perspective even once in its entire existence.
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>>81785343
>2011
Damn I miss lexxy's homestuck art
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>>81785378
>>81785400

Ok, I keep asking, but what were they saying that sounded like "pedigree". There's no way they were saying gristmas there.
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>>81785527
what?
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>>81785515
I'd be fine with that at least
It gives closure, even if that closure is "They grew up and had kids."
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So we can all agree that altCalliope nuking everything was the coolest part of the ending, right? The frog was cool as well, but it was already expected so
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>>81785508
As I mentioned in another comment. The very next cut is to first person caliborn smashing his clock.

I don't think these were two arbitrarily first person scenes directly after each other.
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>>81785387
Well shit lets see.

>Don't know if LE is defeated
>Don't know if they actually got their good ending in the new universe
>Don't know where Terezi is in the new universe
>Don't know if Vriska survived and made it into the new universe
>Don't know why they would teleport into the masterpiece
>Don't know why the remaining trolls didn't come with.
>Don't know if those are even our kids who did so
>Don't know what happened to all the sprites
>Don't know where the final frog teleported from
>Don't know when or how they shrink down the weapons to send with Liv Tyler
>Don't know how the trickster arc could have gone down since Erisol wasn't there post retcon
>Don't know how or when Vriska did her time travel recon

There's probably more but this is all I can think of.
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>>81785564
Back stage casting couch with Kanaya showing up there.

Have you ever seen the porn, my friend?
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>>81785561
12th perigree eve
I think Kanaya and Karkat mentioned it once back in Act 5. Basically troll christmas
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>>81785557
Except in the next cut 2 seconds later with him smashing his clock
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>>81785575
nah.
Caliborn was the only cool thing.
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>>81785545
nudge nudge
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>>81785580
>Don't know when or how they shrink down the weapons to send with Liv Tyler

this shit bothers me the most
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>>81785494
>Also the very next cut is a first person perspective of Caliborn smashing his clock

So what're you saying that was supposed to mean?
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>>81785605
An action shot, not first person. We don't see Caliborn's limbs as our own. We see only the action i.e. the clock being destroyed.
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>>81784796
I'm surprised just how bad it is. It's like Hussie didn't give a single shit.
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>>81785508
If we were looking at LE being defeated there would be no point to the shots of Caliborn becoming immortal as John reaches for the doorknob.

Honestly, here's my rushed interpretation of the ending. You know how it all turns into a dumb flower spirograph the moment John grabs the knob? That's the new universe, drawn from John's mind, because he's been lobotomized so many times by act 6 that that's the only thing in his head.
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has ipgd stopped by?
She mentioned she saw Act 7 already. Does she have any real insight on it?
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>>81785575
I liked Caliborn fucking up his clock.
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>>81785614
>when

whenever they want to

>how

jade still has her powers
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>>81785575
No, overcoming the big bad by finding someone else to do it for you, along with an entirely unexplained McGuffin, is fucking shitty.
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>>81784521
I want to do this for the future archival readers, not us. We already starved to death and theres no coming back.
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>>81785614
>how
They can change sizes with the alchemiter. Do we really not know when it gets shipped out though?
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>>81785636
she never said anything of importance and bid us farewell.
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>>81785352
It could be SBURB: the perfect 3D procedural crafting MMORPG and I still wouldn't give this fucker any of my money.

>>81785580
Come on, you know some dumbass will just take every single one of these points and answer it with "irrelevant"/"dead"/"probably [bullshit theory]"/[more speculation] to prove we're all sooo stupid for not being able to guess everything on our own, God, UGH.
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>>81785636
She's too busy sucking Hussie's dick to do anything.

I wonder how iggy piggy feels knowing she's the reason why Hussie and Rachel broke up.
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>>81785579
No I get that NOW but I feel like I was justifiably confused by the by the prevalence of generally unrelated cuts that are just there to look pretty
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>>81785314
>pic

>>81785487
what cons you go to? if you're in the midwest area i go to cons p frequently
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>>81785592
Oh, ok. Yeah, exactly zero chance I would have remembered *that* on my own. Thanks!
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>>81785621
Just a nice directive decision to connect these two scenes with a nice transition, strongly implying, whatever got sucked into that door was Caliborn, in context of course his later self LE.
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>>81785575
No

Caliborn was the best thing about the flash between beating the shit out of the clock and PURE ART SKILL REDUX
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>>81785575
>>81785606
I liked most of what we saw except for the dumb flashes of everyone happy in the new universe that may or may not have been a hallucination

Someone in a thread last night said it best, the problem with the ending wasn't with what was there, it's what wasn't there
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>>81785387
Pretty much half of the plot points introduced in Act6 were either explained poorly/left ambiguous or completely forgotten.

Even if someone tries to list all of those, on a reread you'll find even more things that Hussie didn't address in the end.
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> confirmed epilogue
>b-but damage control

Why are we mad? We're still getting a fucking epilogue.
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>>81785580
>rose's mom's/adult roxy's relationship with jasper and reason for feeling guilty about it.
Really, she acted like she felt guilty about Jasper's death and knew something, but that was never explained. Nor do we know how she was able to take down a denizen by herself.
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>>81785413
Yes.
It would have shown that the kids moved on and also got enough out of their lives to raise normal families
IT ALSO AT LEAST FUCKING INVOLVES TEREZI
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>>81782503
There already was an epilogue. The problem is that there was no fucking ending.
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>>81785695
if you want, I can give you my email, we can exchange things later. Name's Jarred btw, I live in Texas.
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remember when ps fucking shot an innocent person?
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>>81785727
>another hiatus
B-based Hussie, a-am I right guys?
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>>81785727
Won't make the ending less shitty.
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>>81785727
>IT'S STILL A BETA
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>>81785413
>this is ironically better than what we got

>>81785727
It's less the epilogue, and the more the way he talks about the epilogue
Like it's an afterthought, something we're twisting his arm to do
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>>81785387
Almost forgot that Jade had access to this.
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>>81785742
aight, works for me, email's reygunss@gmail
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>>81785686
Okay hold on I haven't been in these threads in nearly a year I need to know what's the story here
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>>81785729
>the guardians taking the kids denizens down
oh boy that brings me back

I'm hoping you dont mean like mom punching that big ogre, dave attaking the party squid, etc?
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>>81785729
Rose's wands were literally able to break SBURB. I don't think it would have been difficult for her to defeat a game construct like a boss.
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>>81785686
do you write fanfiction about real people
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>>81785727
And it will fill all the plot holes and answer all the questions. Right.
>>
Why do people think the ending was a hallucination?
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>>81785785
>rose
FUCKING HAX, VOTEKICK HER
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>>81785779
>believing everything you read in a homestuck thread

you are not bright, lord almighty
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>>81785727
Because I don't think it can possibly be satisfying after this. The ending actually created more plot holes than it filled.
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so the beta kids are just gone forever huh
the last thing they experience before becoming trapped in eternal limbo is preparing to fight caliborn and then getting shut down before they can even attack
that's a fuckin tragedy
>>
>>81785805
because its all we have to cling on to
>>
how would you fix the final flash, /hst/?
For me at least showing exactly how LE dies and not just imply everything and make shit happen off screen would've helped a bit. Also I wouldn't have put so much time focusing on the frog universe.
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>>81785766
Saying you messed up in today's work climate is social suicide.
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>the suitarangs were never used
HUSSIE YOU FUCKING HACK
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>>81785805
>It was all a sugar high from John eating way too much goddamn cake on his birthday
BEST ENDING
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>>81785686
>hussie and rachel broke up
:o
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>>81785575
For me it's tied between frog, because been looking forward to seeing that fucker, and the clock-bashing scene.
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>>81785810
>>81785792
Don't you lives to relationships to ruin ipgd?
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>>81785810
I haven't been here in over a year I'm just rusty :(
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>>81785727
What says this epilogue won't upload at the speed of Prequel? Hussie said he was going to take his sweet ass time. I don't want to wait until fucking November 11 for the comic's Actual End For Realsies, my nerves have already had enough.

Also >>81785063
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>>81785777
K', mine's [email protected]. Nice to meet you.
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>>81785856
>>81785810
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>>81785834
He's not even saying he messed up
He's admitting that the epilogue is something he considered, that he actually considered this a good ending

If he had been smart, he would have said "Yes, there IS an epilogue coming" with actual confidence instead of floundering about
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>>81785727
>there are people who think hussie promising an epilogue isn't just damage control
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Reminder that the Nancho Party arc in SBaHJ was foreshadowing the end of Homestuck.
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>tfw she got her wish

Let's hope she's still alive and intending to stay that way.
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>>81785879
But they did, m8.
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>>81785400
Because of you it's playing in my head now.
FUCK YOU!
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>>81785816
Did you even watch the flash?
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>>81785858
writing your own fanfics about people irl is really shitty no matter how many times you call me iggypiggy bro
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what is your favorite episode of homestuck
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AAAAAAAA
What the hell Hussie?
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>>81785816
I guess they could emerge again through alchemy, just like English did. Maybe as a new character in a spinoff of some sort.
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>>81785865
>nov 11
nah, it'll be 6/12

>>81785879
>>81785903
:o
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>>81785881
It's blatantly not, but that doesn't mean it'll resolve anything, or that it won't still be a disappointment. Don't be such a fucking retard.
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>>81785841
Holy shit, HB's looks like a pair of lips. Isn't that a type of candy?
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>>81785903

Honestly, Everyone says that but then posts no proof, it's a meme at this point.
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>>81785118
[citation needed]
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>>81785606
I love that take on LE's eyes
Best part, imo.
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BUT HOW IS SBAHJ GOING TO END??

THAT SHITTY SMUG CLAM CAN'T BE THE END
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>>81785913
the beach episode
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>>81785942
HB's backup hat has wax lips

yooo...
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>>81785913
To the end, my favorite moment was [S] Cascade.
Everything falling into place, so many questions answered, such wonderful turns for the story to go, on top of a visual and auricular spectacle. It blew me away and left me stunned.
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>>81785954
The citation is that I'm Hussie.
>>
how u want ur ending familia?
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>>81785913
The episode with the midnight crew of course. And Rose discovering her world was neat. Also, that episode where Jade and Dave did the frog shenanigans made me feel sad.
>>
>>81785951
oh man this gives me some real feels.
right behind him is death with a box of chess.
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>>81785858
>Don't you lives to relationships to ruin
stop drinking anon
please
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Being an EriFef fan is suffering now.

Will they even appear in the epilogue?
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CALLIOPE'S

GOT

HIPS
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>>81785974
HEROIC
>>
Pretty amazing that A7 was all done by one person, it's really gorgeous animation.
>>
>>81785978

I don't think Hussie even remembers they exist
>>
At least the ending lets me pretend that DaveJade was endgame

Fuck it, that's all I ever really wanted anyways
>>
>>81785984
FUCKING HOW? SHE HAS THE SAME BODY AS HER BROTHER WHO HAS NO HIPS
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>>81785909
Did you even watch the masterpiece?
They perform the ultimate alchemy, then live for some years in the new universe they create. After training in the hyperbolic time chamber, they decide to finally go confront Caliborn, who traps them inside of the juju, from which they will never emerge.
>>
>>81785606
you can just hear the clicks as they lock into place. like a hammer being cocked or tick tock of a clock. how appropriate
>>
>>81785743
It was an accident.
>>
So, now that around 14 hours have passed since the update, have you finally calmed down /hst/?
>>
>>81785551
She can't see anything you dick
>>
so did calliope destroy the furthest ring?
does that even makes sense?
>>
>>81785976
>right behind him is death with a box of chess.
heh
>>
oh yeah we also finally saw the bottom of John's shoes in Collide.
He has wooden yellow soles
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>>81786001
Same haha hahah
hahaha
*cocks gun* ahahaha
>>
>>81785977
How can I not drink after that shitty ending?
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>>81785892
let's just hope her clothes get sucked in and she has to fly around naked for all eternity.
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>>81786001
BUT WHAT ABOUT DAVEKAT?
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>>81786019

With the chance of an epilogue, I'm officially in the bargaining stage, even though I know I will be underwhelmed
>>
>>81786001
I can't help but feel disgust that people actually accept this ending just because their ship sailed

Like holy fuck guys
You can accept that your ship is okay AND that the ending felt retarded at the same time
>>
>>81785978
D A O O T S
A
O
O
T
S
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>>81786027
no-one knows

I kind of want hussie to release a cascade like summary for Act 7.
>>
What will the WLF surprise be?
>>
LOL TEREZIFAGS
>>
>>81786055

wait what about

jadekat
>>
>>81786057
I knew the ending was going to be shit no matter what

I'd rather a shit ending with DaveJade than a shit ending with Davekat
>>
>>81786048

I doubt she'd really care in that situation, she's just too happy.
>>
>>81786057
this guys right. If this didn't happen I was gonna mail hussie anthrax and even I think this ending was a tragedy.
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>>81786057
I'm happy my ship sailed
But I'm still horribly unsatisfied with this ending and think it's shit
I want actual closure, and Dave and Jade talking to each other about their relationship, not just them in a park
>>
>my favorite character has been figuratively fucked in the ass for the whole comic
>during several points of the story he was hinted to have an important role in the grand scheme of things
>ended the story without accomplising anything other than punching a hard-to-beat tertiary antagonist, which ultimately still amounted to fucking nothing
>in the end he couldn't even been literally fucked in the ass
Why is this allowed
>>
>>81785913
Make Her Pay and Cascade.
>>
>>81786081
That was never an option.
>>
Who /sevenyearsofblueballs/ here?
>>
I just believe that the black hole will swallow everything, even the new universe
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>>81786055
Dave's monogamous, Karkat's frowning, and Jade's only into Dave.
Davekat sunk, even the davekat shippers know it, they've been whining about homophobia all day.
>>
Being a sollux fan is suffering
>>
>>81786003
I blame the patriarchy for forcing gender roles even on skull aliens
>>
>not even a hint of Terezi at the end
>>
>>81785913
Jade: Enter
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>>81786091
>beats Clover
>high implication that Karkat can beat Vriska's lucky ass in blackrom

Really?
>>
Collide>Cascade>Jade:Enter>Descend>JOHN. RISE UP.
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>>81786055
Someone post the tumblr screencaps, you know what I'm talking about
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How should have Homestuck ended?
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>>81786124
At least you're not a Feferi fan

>wasn't even shown in the ending flash
>even eridan got a shot in
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The ending did have a few high points. Jane is canonically not overweight in the slightest, for one thing. Hussie BTFO'd tumblr one final time.
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>>81785984
She seems to have boobs too.
Does Caliborn have boobs?

I hope the epilogue has huss art. I miss it.
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>>81785913

Explore and Ascend.
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>>81786168
Feferi was a mistake
>>
I can't believe I am saying this, but I would have honestly preferred a "John leaves his computer and it's revealed it was all in the 4 kids' imagination and SBURB was just a normal game" ending.
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>>81786158
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>>81786091
>>during several points of the story he was hinted to have an important role in the grand scheme of things
The only people who had that were John, Dave, and Jake.
John fulfilled his important role like a year ago, Dave successfully a week ago, Jake did his even longer ago except it in shitty claymation.
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>>81786158
having an ending would be nice for starters
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>>81786005
But where did Arquiusprite come from
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>>81786148
Clover let himself be beat because he had a horseshoes crush on Karkat.
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>>81786003
That's altcallie, so she's had time to grow hips, since she dominated and will have been maturing as a result.
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>>81786169
>No gay singularity
>no fat Jane
>Kids aren't headcanon'd
Too bad it was wrapped up in bullshit
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>>81786003
She killed him at a teen age.
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>>81786001
But what if JadeKat?
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>>81786208
he was already there
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>>81786158
Like in PS with multiple pages of beating the boss (LE) then like at the end of WallE where everyone is in the new universe starting anew but like better than what they showed.
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>>81786198
I honestly don't think I would, actually.
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>>81786158
At Zoosmell Pooplord
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>>81786158
The midnight crew arrive and beat up LE
The new universe is created
the end
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>>81786156
These?
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>>81786019
I was never really angry at the ending, just disappointed. I still am kind of.
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>>81786003
If Caliborn was able to age normally, he would have gotten hips too. But he fused with Arquius and so he became RIIIIIPPPPPPED
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>>81786203
Are you perhaps implying that blood has nothing to do with leadership?
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>>81786233
"look forward to"
I'm pretty sure they're already made fun of.
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>>81786169
Except it wasn't Hussie though.
Fat Jane also was a thing that happened in Vriskagram.

Not that I'm defending fatfuck Jane. It never fails me that tumblr thinks Jane is fat because Caliborn said so. Even though Jane denied it. They literally take the side of Caliborn over Jane because they are that insecure.
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>>81786233
Yeah. Post the "HOMOPHOBES ON 4CHAN WON" and "This is why Davekat needs to be canon, for gay rights" ones
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>>81786233
the best part is that she thinks Karkat is going to live another 80 years with his inferior blood
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>>81785933
>It's blatantly not
nah, it is, he never planned for anything to happen after act 7
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>>81786151
Unite Synchronize?
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>>81786279
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>>81786233
Guess the delusion was real all along
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I had a dream last night that Homestuck ended and it was complete unsatisfying shit. Like the shit you take when only a few pebbles come out and you feel like you have more to shit out but as hard you try nothing ends up coming out. So you're just stuck in eternal constipation.

Thank god it was just a dream
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>>81786279
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I feel as though this is relevant more than ever now.
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>>81786158
Cascade style flash with 1 Shitty Twist per minute (Calliborn was a red herring, English was Calliope, or shit to that effect). Clean up all the loose threads and hype for the climactic battle. Back to panel format, do like the Rose v Bec fight (slideshow of cool freezeframes where fighting happens with text talking about time loops and determinism), they win through an actual glitch, short old-style flash with spirographs and them opening the door, epilogue with 'choose your dialogue scene' panels, where we see snippets of what they went on to do.

Fucking easy.
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>>81786329
owned
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>>81786003
>Lord English
FUCKING RIPPED

>Alt Calliope
Hips and curvy

There's has to be something about their "dominant" personality.
>>
Whats your favorite Homestuck song?
Mine is http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/black-2
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>>81786114
That's technically not really a problem given how time works in universes. It's already been established that the moment a universe is created its entire timeline from its creation to destruction already exists.

Really all the green sun black hole means is now the horrorterrors and paradox space are being destroyed by a black hole rather than Lord English. Which is why I'm not exactly sure why that's supposed to be a good thing
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>>81786313
That was actually an incredibly accurate description of act 7.
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>>81786289
Karkat probably has a human lifespan, along with his other human-like qualities.
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>>81786353
It has nothing to do with personality, the only reason English is ripped is because he fused with Arquius.
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>>81786329
>homophobes on 4chan won
I can't believe that the davekat shitposting was not only real and by generic tumblrites, but actually uses the homophobia accusation
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Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who remembers this happened.
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>>81782382
https://youtu.be/xYAkfYIBASE?t=10m8s
>Wait, that's it?
>o-oh.
DO YOU SEE WHAT YOU'VE DONE, HUSSIE?!
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Did Alt Calliope do anything that Calmasis foreshadowed?
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>>81786313
>he névér used these for anything
why le fuggy did he make us go through that cringey shit
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>>81786158
Hussie should have drawn it, for starters. Homestuck turning into an anime for the ending sounds like a fucking joke Tumblr users would say to each other.
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>>81786356
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYPMzHAYSRc
Especially at 2:11
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>>81786033
>John was Dutch all along.
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>>81786309
>everyone was having a good time and then this breeder showed up
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Alright pay up you son of the bitch, time to start eating shit.
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>>81786389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4HrS9zc4UU
:^)
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>>81786313
>So you're just stuck in eternal constipation.

i was trying to figure out how this ending made me feel and this is a good description on how i'm feeling
>>
QUICK
Name all of the Beforus trolls and their titles without looking it up
You get one point for each one that isn't Meenah or Aranea.
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>>81786233
>remember back when homestuck was beginning to get popular and people would try to get others to read it, and how so many people would complain about the art style being “lazy”? but people would defend it because the heart of the story was in the writing, even if the visuals could be crude at times? i feel like this flipped that around. i just wanted some pesterlogs, man.
Heh.
:(
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>>81786439
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>>81786433
>dvw je iemand kent die letterlijk Jan Egbertus heet
>tfw you know someone literally named Jan Egbertus
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>>81786210
>implying this doesn't change that Karkat is attracting lucky people to fall for him

Please let me have my shitty meme headcanon come true.
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>>81782745
Gamzee and Roxy are arguably the only two characters with any real development.
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>>81786470
meulin
kurloz
aranea
uhhh
JACKIE CHANNA
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What was even the point of the black hole?

time don't flow in the furthest ring, so even if there is no green sun the first guardians still have their powers,

that thing is just destroying the fabric of reality but not actually doing anything since as already said time is different there, so Calliope just died for nothing
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I know the ending was shit but my ship is the one shining scrap of happiness I can cling to

I'm also really happy about how pretty rose was drawn here

This image fills me with deep hollow sadness but I love it
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I shouldn't have gone up those stairs
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>>81786233
What's wrong with Dave getting Jade pregnant and having a bunch of nice little dog earred kids?
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Why was Mituna always grabbing his crotch?
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>>81782905
this would have been fine with even a single additional page actually confirming they did make it out. or that they did in fact get wrecked by Caliborn. Or anything. ANY CONFIRMATION OF ANYTHING.
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>>81786470
Meenah, Thief of Life
Aranea, Sylph of Light
Kankri I think? Seer of Blood
Knight of Mind, don't remember her name lol
Porrim, forget her thing

Oh god I'm actually having trouble remembering anything else
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>>81786470
fuck, i rembember everybody except for the zahak
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>>81786470
Kankri Seer of Blood
Damara Witch of Time
Rufioh Rogue of Breath
Mituna Heir of Doom
Meulin Mage of Heart
Porrim Maid of Space
Latula Knight of Mind
Aranea Sylph of Light
Horuss Page of Void
Kurloz Prince of Rage
Cronus Bard of Hope
Meenah Thief of Life

BOOM
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>>81786555
Because that's just his thing, man.
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>>81786586
damn dude, how
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>>81786613
I liked them
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>>81786470
Damara, witch of time
RuFIoH,
Mituna, Best Troll
Kankri, seer of blood
Meulin, mage of heart
Latula, Knight of Mind
Horuss, Page of Void
Kurloz,
Cronus, Bard of Hope
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>>81786586
I didnt even remeber half of their names anymore because of the fucking gigahiatus
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>>81786631
I call bullshit
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>>81783352
Like motherfucking pottery
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>>81786470
>Kankri - Seer of Blood
>Latula - Knight of Mind
>Cronus - Bard of Hope
>Damara - Witch of Time
>Meenah - Thief of Life
>Aranea - Sylph of Light
>Porrim - Don't Remember of Space
>Kurloz - Don't Remember of Rage
>Meulin - Don't Remember of Heart
>Rufio - Don't Remember of Breath
>Horrus - Don't Remember of Void
>>
did the anon who wanted to draw a bunch of classpects ever make a tumblr or somewhere else to host them all when they happen?
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>>81786001
P O L Y A M O R O U S R E L A T I O N S H I P
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>>81786470
Damara - Witch of Time
Rufioh - Rougue of Breath
Mituna - Heir of Doom
Kankri - Seer of Blood
Meulin - Mage of Heart
Porrim - Maid of Space
Latula - Knight of Mind
Aranea - Sylph of Light
Horuss - Page of Void
Kurloz - Prince of Rage
Cronus - Bard of Hope
Meenah - Thief of Life

I think this is correct, not sure though.
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>>81786613
Don't underestimate classpect autists
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>>81786470
/b/tard
Tumblr
SJW
Horsefucker
Ghetto Fish
Gangster
Smug Spider
Greaser
Mute Mine
Perverted Hentai Girl
Boobs
Staker Girl
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>>81786651
they were much much much more interesting than jake and jane so I just diverted my brain cells
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Quickly post your CLASSPECT

Knight of Light here.
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>>81786470
Damara - Witch of Time
Rufioh - Rogue of Breath
Mituna - Heir of Doom
Meulin - Mage of Heart
Kankri - Seer of Blood
Porrim - Maid of Space
Latula - Knight of Mind
Aranea - Sylph of Light
Horrus(?) - Page of Void
Kurloz - Prince of Rage
Cronus(?) - Bard of Hope
Meenah - Thief of Life

What do I win?
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Welp... Looks like we're not getting an explanation for this after all.
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>>81786679
Dave is monogamous in canon and Jade isn't interested in Karkat
So no
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>>81783817
this is actually a very interesting and undiscussed ambiguity raised by this. in the world future they're all seen in normal clothes, doing normal things.
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>>81786701
the bronze
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>>81786665
http://celebratingwithco.tumblr.com/
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>>81786470
damara witch of time
rufioh rogue of breath
mituna Heir of doom
meulin mage of heart?
kurloz prince of rage
meenah thief of life
Cronus bard of hope
porrim slyph of space
horuss page of void
latula knight of mind
aranea slyph of light
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>>81786470
Cronus - Bard of Hope
Kurloz - Prince of Rage
Mituna - Heir of Doom
Kankri - Seer of Blood
Latula - Knight of Mind
Meenah - Theif of Life
Aranea - Slyph of Light I think
Rufioh - Rogue of Breath I think
I forget the rest.
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>>81786702
>Andre Maujean
shut up, frenchie
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>>81786470
Dvorah Damara Time
Tavioh Ruffus? Wind bard
Fuck if I know Doom
Meulin Merkat Heart
Tumblr meme guy Blood
??? Maryam Space
Not Terezi Mind
Aranea Serket Light?
Fuck void
Carlos Makara Rage
Wweh Caspor uh
Meenah Glubbers life? witch
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>>81786698
Knight of Mind reporting in!
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>>81786702
So I guess this has to mean that Gamzee didn't die?
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>>81783817
Maybe Jane can keep the trolls alive with her life powers
>>
Hey guys
>>>/wg/6541089
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>>81786702
>Being a macfag
Holy shit why, Andre
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>>81786679
the only canon poly relationship is childpile
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>>81786761
Gamzee is locked in a fridge in a discarded universe.
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>>81786005
How do you know they fought afterwards? Just because John touched the door handle, doesn't mean they entered the new universe right then and there. Shit, for all we know, the kids let everyone else enter the universe while they zap to Caliborn.

>John opens the door
>Jade releases the Earth into the universe
>Calliope, the Trolls, and Dad, enter the universe
>John remembers "Oh fug, we have to fight Caliborn"
>Zap to Caliborn, they lose
>Beta kids thrown in the Juju
>Roxy uses Void powers to put the Juju into the furthest ring
>Vriska finds the Juju
>Vriska uses the Juju on LE
>Kids pop out and LE takes their place inside the Juju
>Juju sucked into the black hole
>Beta kids go to furthest ring
>Beta and Alpha kids reunite and go into the new universe
>See their happy ending

With the way time works, the Beta kids don't even have to experience an eternity inside the Juju. It could be instantaneous.

The other issue is ARquius. We know that sprites basically die once the ultimate reward is collected. So it's possible ARquius was zapped with them and then went into LE.

I'm not saying that's what happened, but it makes more sense than what you proposed. What motivation would they have to attack Caliborn after being happy in the new universe?
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>>81786702
After this ending literally the only explanation or any of that is they're some alt timeline kids we never see
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>>81786702
No, we do have business knowing what happened
What happened to the alphas afterwards, the betas?
Who fucked who? If this is in the far future did they leave behind families to do this?
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>>81786470
meenah
aranea
mituna
meulin
kurloz
kankri
rufioh
fuckin....horse muscle dude
cronus
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>>81783817
That's why the trolls don't go with the kids to fight Caliborn. The kids wait until all of the trolls die off first.
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>>81786702
Welcome to Homestuck, where everything's made up and the plot points don't matter.
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>>81786549
woops
>>81786057

>>81786356
https://youtu.be/3v_sSzZPu2Y
https://youtu.be/9MdltybiL00
https://youtu.be/ktuDYYtbs2s
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Only half an hour left till 3:14 when the true Act 7 with all revelations and plot twists will be posted.
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>>81786698
Knight of Void reporting.
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>>81786811
oh right, there were 12, not 9

FUCK
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>>81786549
Does Rose have a human skin tone there?
>>
Are carapaces fuckable?
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>>81786723
someone was saying they enter, grow older and shit (or not since they're immortal), then pop back out to fight caliborn. I suppose it could make sense. When we see his masterpiece I guess we don't know WHEN or WHERE or what they all look like.
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>>81786836
>Being this delusional
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>>81786836
>>81786836
Don't do this to yourself, man.
Just let go. We lost.
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>>81786158
The villains are defeated through regular narration. To do this, the players find clever application for plot elements and powers, Problem Sleuth style, instead of just piling fraymotif on top of fraymotif until the HP bars reach zero.

Karkat, Tavros, GCATavros, Jake and Jane all do something unique, important and genuinely impressive that is focused on for a while.
Preferably after coming up to a kind of realization about themselves (Karkat renounces his unrealistic expectations and admits he's not useless either, Tavros accepts the burden of responsibility for the greater good, etc.)

Cloun's status is explained. We learn how much of his bullshit was Lil Cal mindfuckery, regular insanity, and him just being a fucking asshole. We get to see what he sounds like when he's not insane nor on sopor.
Vriska is killed in a quick, humiliating fashion due purely to her own hubris. Everybody comes to term with the fact that she was fucking horrible.
(Vriska) gets her shit together and actually genuinely apologizes to people she's hurt and grows as a person.

Terezi realizes how much alive Vriska fucked her up and accepts (Vriska)'s apologies. She prepares a fair trial for (Vriska) and Gamzee to be judged for their crimes. They are sentenced to eleven years of Can Town community service.
Rose plays the rain. We see Kanaya tend to the Matriorb at the end and she's doing pretty well despite her fears.

The Horrorterrors are relevant again and somehow help the dead cross over to the new universe. Sollux and Aradia prove crucial to this. Maybe Feferi and Eridan are involved too.

That's about it. I care more about the characters than the plot points, really.
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>>81786836
it's over man
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>>81786807
>the betas and alphas literally abandoning their children to go play videogames
The cycle continues
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>>81786794
>discarded universe.
old Incipisphere
>>
So /co/, if Hussie really did update later today with some sort of true ending, how would you feel?
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>>81786698
Serph of Time I think
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I'm still holding on to a "psych" update being next. It... it just has to be...
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>>81786836
I'm holding out like 5% of my hope for this.
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I don't want /hsg/ to *wwalk* out of my life ;-;
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>>81786549
>full human style cities
>kanaya isn't older

????????????
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>>81786702
I think we've reached a consesus that Caliborn's masterpiece happens a few decades after the ending we saw, when all known trolls have already died and the kids go back to the other universe to close the loop. Beta kids get trapped in the Juju for a long time until Vriska freeds them and they fight LE (presumably dying alone with the universe).

The alpha kids are a mystery though. Maybe they kill themselves after that or something.
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>>81786886
I'm already broken inside.
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>>81786886
anything is better than no ending
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>>81786890
>fanon class
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>>81786886
the damage is done
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>>81786470
damara is a witch of time
rufioh is a rogue of breath
mituna is uhhhhh. something of doom
kankri is a seer of blood
meulin is a mage of heart
porrim is a maid of space
latula is a knight of mind
aranea is a sylph of light
horruss is a page of void I think
kurloz is a prince of rage
cronus is a bard of hope I think
meenah is a thief of life
>>
What was Aradia's motivation for anything again?
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>>81786900
There's still the epilogue.
>>
OH GOD

THE ALPHA KIDS ARE ALIVE AFTER THE MASTERPIECE BECAUSE THEY GO BACK TO BECOME THE GUARDIANS

GODDAMN IT

FUCK
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>>81786911
none of them are older

also

they fast forwarded time
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>>81786931
>Not choosing Smith because Alchemization is the coolest part of SBURB
>>
Why is the ending considered bad?

I stopped following two years ago with the intention to marathon it one day but I don't really want to if it turned out shit.
>>
>>81786963

Sexual pleasure
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>>81786886
I wish we just knew when the epilogue would drop
>>
>>81786911
I think they rewound time to 4/13/2009 back to the modern day earth they left behind
>>
Tell me what you think about Hussie and his writing ability after seeing the last update /hst/.
Please, feel free to go all-out.
>>
>>81786890
was it? Isn't Kanaya a serph? I'm whatever she is
>>
>>81786911
It's the alpha earth right? maybe that was a city that was underwater
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>>81786913
The masterpiece can't happen then. Arquius is with them, and Sprites are supposed to die after the game ends.
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>>81786977
>THE ALPHA KIDS ARE ALIVE AFTER THE MASTERPIECE BECAUSE THEY GO BACK TO BECOME THE GUARDIANS
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>>81786973
Epilogue implies winding down, we missed the mother fucking climax.
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>>81786977
I thought this when we first heard about the alpha kids. Wouldn't work, the guardians die of old age and are way too weak to be got tigers.
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>>81787003
nope.png

I appreciate the effort, but it's still kinda bad.

He should stick to shorter stories.
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>>81787005
She's a sylph
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>>81787005
sylph
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>>81786977
That makes no sense. We already know they're seperate people split by the scratch
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>>81786958
H-how did you forget Heir?
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>>81786977
what
>>
press f to pay respects
>>
>>81786977
I'd suggest you reread the comic but what's the point anymore
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>>81785933
You take your own fucking advice and realize it's blatantly is, considering he edited his original newspost "hey everyone good job right? clap clap thanks for playing!" about the epilogue because of the shitstorm that came after the ending.
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>>81786886
Like he got me one last time before the end, and it would be so God damn worth it.

Let us hope.
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>>81786793
>childpile
what?
>>
>>81786981
it's not a complete ending, it's a clusterfuck that doesn't explain much and there is even a cliff hanger in there
>>
>the thing with kurloz and mituna was never explained
>>
>>81786981
read the thread
General idea is Hussie planned this and had it set up around 2013 then all the hiatus and kickstarter shit happened. He was already deep into the storyboarding and just decided fuck it.
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>>81787015
It's the meteor, I thought.
>>
>>81786977
The shitty ending has driven you insane.
>>
>>81786698
Male Seer of Doom
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>>81787023
The climax was Collide you stupid fuck.
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>>81786886
But this was the true ending.

>Caliborn takes control of story
>masters the arts
>produces Homosuck: The Anime
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>>81787003
I feel like he's a decent writer by webcomic standards, but his audience on here and his ambitions both outgrew the actual comic - so despite his best efforts his passion just wasn't in it the past few years, which clearly shows, and everybody on here was expecting more from the story than it could possibly deliver even if Hussie still gave a fuck about it.
>>
I made a thing and fuck it, here the copy&paste of it, regarding LE, the first person perspective scenes and the juju

I agree that it wasn't shown directly, but very heavily hinted at.

Look at these two short scenes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FevMNMwvdPw&t=6m9s

> Something gets violently (because the grounds even breaks) sucked into the door from a first person perspective
> Cut to Caliborn first person perspective smashing his clock

I really doubt that these two scenes were arbitrarily the only first person shots, since it cuts from one directly to the other.
This shows us, that whatever got sucked in, was from Caliborns perspective. In context of course LE.

"Why do you think something gets sucked in?"
Because exactly that happend when the thing aimed the beta kids during the masterpiece.

"And what then?"
Open for interpretation. My take on it is, since it's definetly a meta juju, that it transports the target to their "page one", the start of their story in Homestuck.
It was intended to do that with the kids and that's why it had the form, but had the twist, that the user will be the next target.
The end door was just loosely connected to the Juju, not as a literal gateway, just as the same thing with a different function, since it's usage was different.
The frontside sucked LE (and the beta kids during the masterpiece) INTO the story of Homestuck and the backside, which we got to see at the end plattform, was a way OUT of the story of Homestuck
But like I said. That last part is just interpretation and probably not without problems.
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>>81787053
precious child
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>>81787020
>Sprites are supposed to die after the game ends.
At this point that sounds like a pretty arbitrary rule that may as well be false.
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>>81787034
>>81787036
Close enuff
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>>81786981
Imagine Hussie introducing plot thread after plot thread only to not resolve any of them.
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>>81786737
Whats this about
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So wait, is the epilogue going to be an old ass Terezo?
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>>81787077
it was too rushed.
the Condesce died too easily, same for the jacks.
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>>81786737
awesome, thanks!
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>>81786271
>>81786169

Thick/curvy Jane is honestly quite okay, she hadn't been portrayed as some kind of athletic badass and she's irrelevant enough that it shouldn't piss anyone off like if they made one of the main characters fat in retrospect or something. That and she bakes cakes for a hobby. Also, Nanna doesn't exactly look slender,

I think we can assume that she's supposed to be at least fatter than the other kids.
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>Hussie murdered a fictional child barely 12 years old
HUSSIE WHAT THE FUCK
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>>81786356
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8GVlwRrXC8
even after all this time
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>>81787136
>the Condesce died too easily,

>took 4 years
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>>81787003
I think he's damn well lost his mind.
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>>81786978
No, they rewound it to before the Condesce took over. Remember? We saw the buildings reform from rubble.
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>>81787108
this makes sense I suppose
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>>81787108
They're not first-person, they're action shots, and the ground was already getting fucked from the door slamming down onto the unstable bit of paradox space that was left. As far as we know, it just zoomed in on the door to be more dramatic.
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>>81787122
dude asked for everyones classpect before the update hit , gonna draw the lot of em
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>>81787077
>Doesn't resolve the main villain
>Happens before the main villains origins are fully explained
>Shit is happening but doesn't conclude before the curtain drop

No it isn't, even if you include Act 7.
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>>81787171
If only someone thought to use an ordinary sword against her earlier.
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>>81787171
The battle lasted 4 years? It looked more like an hour, at most.
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>>81787146
I don't really mind a curvy Jane.
Tumblr-curvy is different from curvy, though.
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>>81785183
The trolls didn't ruin the story. The Beforus trolls did.
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That last update was DEEN-tier animation.
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>>81786698
Mage of Void present
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>>81787215
His origins were explained over a year ago.
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>>81787003
Hussie is a good writer. but shit became too big and he couldn't bear all that weight,
then the thing with the money happened and that was the last straw that broke is back.
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>not even a single kiss
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REMINDER THAT THE JACK WHO DESTROYED A UNIVERSE AND KILLED EVERYONE HE COULD SURVIVED AND GOT TO BANG MSPAINT

WHILE SLICK DIED LIKE A BITCH AFTER EVERYTHING HE WENT THROUGH
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>>81786698
Knight of Time.
Yeah.
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>>81787194
i thought they basically got rebuilt
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>>81787048
I just don't know
wasn't thinkin hard enough to realize that it would fill in the blank, I was just remembering the characters themselves
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>>81786698
Mage of Rage baby
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>>81787290
Press F to pay respect.
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>>81787290
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE POINT OF KEEPING SLICK ALIVE ALL THIS TIME ANYWAYS?
HE COULD'VE DIED AFTER CASCADE AND NOTHING WOULD'VE CHANGED.
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>>81786698
I think I was Thief of Space.
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I hope someone releases the source files for Collide and Act 7 so that we aren't stuck with YouTube rips for the rest of our lives.
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>>81787290
>LIKE A BITCH
Nah, he held his own in a fight against two god tier opponents and a guy with Lord English's powers.
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Dave never got to fuck his mom.
Shitending/10
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map update when?
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>>81787290
Slick seriously for real deserved better. He was basically the only Jack Noir who wasn't a complete fucking tool.
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>>81787202
You can clearly see the ground breaking up from under the camera, since it progresses with the movement of the camera until the camera outpaces it
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>>81787290
it's not fair
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>>81787364
no but his best bro did
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>mfw majority of reddit actually likes the ending and defending it
>mfw majority of tumblr is praising the ending "Yay Homestuck is anime now"

I didn't know the Homestuck fandom enjoyed cuckolding
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>>81787290
At least the Crew is back together, in death.
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>>81787060
All eight kids hugging it out together. It's the purest ship.

>>81787003
I can safely say now that I have no godsdamn clue how his mind works anymore.
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>>81786698
Mage of Hope reporting in, I hope you enjoyed the ending because I sure fucking didn't.
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>>81786698
Seer of Space.
Land of Lightning and Frogs.
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>>81787390
>not knowing this for years
They're depraved sickos a d ironically moreso than 4chan.
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>>81787390
I hate it when endings are left to interpretation.
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>>81785913
>hometuck
>>
HAPPY HOMESTUCK DAY
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So... What is moral of the story?
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>>81787328
Dave, Dirk, and Terezi couldn't beat Jack English on their own.
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>>81787003
I still think Hussie is an incredibly talented writer. He just had a double problem:
A) He wrote himself into a corner ages ago, and he just kept trying to dig his way out by going deeper into the corner (and this metaphor is falling apart)

B) He clearly lost any passion he might have ever had for making Homestuck

He needs a year or two to rest.
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>>81786698
rogue of light
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>>81786698
Witch of Rage babbyyyyy
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>>81787461
Never read webcomics.
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http://www.mspaintadventures.com?s=4&p=001743

I want this as a second choice command with the epilogue
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>>81787290
I'm still mad.
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>>81787003
He's good, he just needs an editor.
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>>81787467
He lost passion for almost every single comic he's created.
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THIS IS THE OFFICIAL AIMLESS RENEGADE MEMORIAL POST
HE DESERVED BETTER
HE DESERVED SO MUCH BETTER
REST IN PEACE, MR LAW.
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>>81787461
Homosexuality is deviant and sinful.
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>>81786356
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qolm6KjrBV0

Even though I don't like Jane.
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What will be the special WLF products?
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>>81787461
Never donate to a Kickstarter.
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>>81787461
It's okay to replace your loved ones with people who remind you of them and act like they never left in the first place.
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>>81787461
Tumblr ruins everything.
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>>81787461
it keeps happening
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>>81787525
I wasn't a current reader of PS, but that seemed like it was made with love until the end.
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>>81787531
>even his name got stolen by some shitty shades
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>>81787554
see >>81787453
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>>81787394
F
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>>81787557
>tfw donated to wakfu, got their soundtrack Bluray DVD, and a pass for their video game + a figurine
>don't play the video game or own a TV
Why
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>>81787461
Breath has nothing to do with freedom
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>>81787390
/r/homestuck seems to be mainly not in favor, they seem to be mainly afraid of saying anything bad cause they think hussie will kill himself. Right now they're talking about how bad death threats are. Pretty sure the huss doesn't care about those
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>>81787453
>TOP TIER ANNOUNCEMENT
SMUPPETS
HOODIES THAT ALREADY EXISTED!
SOME SHIRTS!

fucking nailed it
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>>81787620
Because you enjoyed their series when you downloaded it and felt like giving something back?
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>>81787461
Videogames destroy lifes
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>>81787635
If Hussie kills himself, it won't be because we complained, it will be because he will genuinely realized he fucked up.
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>>81786702
wich cartoon are you watching andre? My life is a void without this shit and I need something else to do meanwhile I wait for the epilogue
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>>81787390
At least Reddit had the bants for a little bit.
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>>81787531
F
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> daily reminder that inversion is real because everyone flopped from hope to rage in minutes
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>>81787566
John substitutes Dad for Dad
Dad substitutes John for Grandpa Egbert
Ms. Paint substitutes Jack for Slick
Dave substitutes Dirk for Bro
Dave substitutes Karkat for Jade

it's a running theme, the list goes on and on
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>>81787674
I haven't even watched the show yet. If there's a torrent online, I'll check it out. All I ever did was talk to that one PR in the WAKFU threads about how much I have a boner for France.
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>>81787461
Never trust a thick lipped nigga
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>>81786698
Imma breed all those frogs. And then probably kill them by accident.
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>>81787675
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>>81786698
Bard of Blood.
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>>81787453
>It's not Book 4
I don't even know if I want to buy anymore books to be fair, but come on.
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>>81787707
>>81787707
BKEW WAS RIGHT
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The fuck was Doc's plan? Surely he knew the game from the very beginning, he knew the importance of Jack English, he must have known it all.

So how the fuck did LE get punked so goddamn hard to damn near nothing?
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>>81787707
>frequently mentioned words
>FUCKING
>HOMESTUCK
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http://www.mspaintadventures.com?s=4&p=001799

let's be honest there will never be a ending better than this
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>>81787692
Go read some Kaiji my man.
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woah dude
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>>81786698
Heir of Mind.
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>>81786698
I don't remember, but I'm pretty sure the description said I was a super betafag

Probably page of something
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>>81787747
His plan was to bring Lord English into the universe, and to die before the comic got too bad.
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>>81786698
knight of hope. i think
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>>81787747
Doc Scratch's omniscience was limited to Pre-scratch Earth's universe and Alternia's universe. These are the two universes where a "living" Cal doll existed. He had no understanding of events on Post-scratch Earth or in the furthest ring, so he was unaware of Lord English's eventual defeat.
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>>81786470
Mituna
Meenah
Aranea
Cronus
Latula
Damara
Dante Bosco i mean Rufioh
Horrse
Sports Madden
Kankri
Karlos
Mewlin

How many points do i get
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>tfw this isn't true for homestuck
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>>81787747
Doc could not foresee John's retcon powers.
Without those powers, the story careens straight into Game Over, where Lord English has two universes to jack off with and gets to destroy all of reality forever.
So the answer is retcon powers are bullshit.
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>>81786698
Thief of Mind
>>
does anyone have the huge aspect quiz someone made years ago?
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>>81787719
Sounds like you're just a looney Francophile then.

'Sall good. Haven't checked this site in a while, but you should be able to find torrents in the links on the right-hand side. Tested the top S1 torrent and it's got 7 seeders, so hopefully they're still good.
http://brotherhoodoftofuv2.tumblr.com/
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>>81787853
disqualified for misspelling Meulin
0 points
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Post any piece of homestuck fanart you ever made, can be anything
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>>81787913
I did it on purpose
get it? cat puns?
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>>81787919
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>>81787839
>>81787860
But that's bullshit, John's retcon powers are fundamental in bringing about LE's very existence, he has to have known.
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>>81786698
Knight of Space I think.
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>>81787919
I did it on my old deviantArt which I can't remember the name of.
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>>81787856
>Animation: YOU
>Level Design: YOU
>Character Design: YOU
>3-d Rendering: YOU
>Production Manager: YOU
>Art Direction: YOU
>Finance Consultant: YOU
>Audio Designer: YOU
>STORY: Andrew (?)
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>>81787919
I drew this for HSG once
I dunno why the file is upside down
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the new universe is purple (red+blue)
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>>81787925
disqualified for puns, then
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>>81787993
I don't give a shit
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>>81787993
No, it's white, isn't it.
>>
Pose as a team. The world is real.
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>>81786698
Lord of Rage
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>>81782929
Doesn't Meenah's walkaround include a PI doll in a chest and talk about him being a famous Prospitian agent of the Queen in their timeline?
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>>81787566
>>81787710
Well, damn. Even ignoring the fact that everyone is a retcon substitute, you're right.

How the hell did this even happen?
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>>81788044
Hussie has some issues with loss
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>>81783066
MAKE HOMESTUCK GREAT AGAIN
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>>81786470
Damara Megido, Witch of Time
Rufioh Nitram, Rogue of Breath
Mituna Captor, Heir of Doom
Kankri Vantas, Seer of Blood
Meulin Leijon, Mage of Heart
Porrim Maryam, Maid of Space
Latula Pyrope, Knight of Mind
Aranea Serket, Sylph of Light
Horuss Zahhak, Page of Void
Kurloz Makara, Prince of Rage
Cronus Ampora, Bard of Hope
Meenah Peixes, Thief of Life
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>>81788026
>Homestuck didn't end on a misattributed quote
For shame.
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>>81787919
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>>81787919
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>>81788021
looks more purple to me
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>>81787972
>>81787919
There I fixed it
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>>81787945
Doc Scratch doesn't know everything about his future self, and I don't know why you think he has to know that.
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>>81788026
Is it? I thought the new world was only an imagine spot and the kids were sucked into the juju forever.

Or maybe not. It's pretty ambiguous.

It really does feel like the 'normal end'. Like if you complete the game and find one more password you'll see a different, more satisfying ending.
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>>81786886
If it explained the bad guest art away then and was mostly just fast paced shenanigans to kill LE in some silly way then It would have been all worth it.
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>>81787919
I once drew a mouse kanaya, and posted it on HSG, I don't have it saved though, I also drew a shitty picture of terezi
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>>81787003
His great, I guess he just thought people wanted this instead what the comic was oiriginally like.
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>>81788151
well, they did make a new universe, but the juju changed the door for some reason, and the world going fast forward was really ambiguous
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>>81788147
Doc Scratch was the best villain.
Act 5 was the best Act. Honestly I would have preferred an ending at Cascade that left LE as a sequel hook for something that never got made. It's more satisfying than the actual ending somehow.
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>>81788147
But that's his past, he should damn well know that.
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>>81786470
Damara Megido, Witch of Space
Rufioh Nitram, ??? of Breath
Mituna Captor, Heir of Doom
Kankri Vantas, Seer of Blood
Meulin Leijon, Mage of Heart
Porrim Maryam, ??? of Space
Latula Pyrope, Knight of Mind
Aranea Serket, Slyph of Light
Horuss Zahhak, Page of Void
Kurloz Makara, ??? of Rage
Cronus Ampora, Bard of Hope
Meenah Peixes, Thief of Life

Did I do good?
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>>81787966
>>Finance Consultant: YOU
kek
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>>81787919
way back during the Megapause, HSG tried to redraw Homestuck from the beginning. we got about 50 pages in maybe, I ended up drawing like half the panels
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>>81787945

LE was created in a session beyond Scratch's view. He simply didn't know.
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>>81788151
>>81788211

Part of my other post:

My take on it is, since it's definetly a meta juju, that it transports the target to their "page one", the start of their story in Homestuck.
It was intended to do that with the kids and that's why it had the form, but had the twist, that the user will be the next target.

The end door was just loosely connected to the Juju, not as a literal gateway, just as the same thing with a different function, since it's usage was different.

The frontside sucked LE (and the beta kids during the masterpiece) INTO the story of Homestuck and the backside, which we got to see at the end plattform, was a way OUT of the story of Homestuck
But like I said. That last part is just interpretation and probably not without problems.
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>>81788211
Someone posted the theory of the door turning white was just the indicator of a successful session, you can go through the door now and the Juju being the same was just coincidence.

That seems dumb, as why would they have made them look like they're linked like that if it's not the case, but I'm damned if I can see any reason why they would be.
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>>81788265
Is that still saved somewhere? I think I remember making two-three panels
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>>81788105
my city now
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>>81788219
No it isn't.
Doc Scratch isn't a juju, he's a first guardian made out of the paradox slime of a cue ball and a juju.
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>>81786698
Page of Space
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>>81788326
And also somehow, inherited the soul inside of the juju. Which is weird because what the fuck was the deal with Union Jack?
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>>81788076
So, who do you think he chose as his new dad?
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>>81787856
THIS IS THE THING I HATED THE MOST
NO
FUCKING
CREDITS

AND THIS SONG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgJXbu2cJss&nohtml5=False
FUCKIGN WASTED

W A S T E D
ALL OF IT
FUCK YOU HUSSIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>81788431
The credits will come with the real ending.
>>
>the Battlefield is an egg-cell
>the Tadpole is a sperm-cell
>the forge is actually a benis :DDDDD
>>
Are Jade and Dave happy together
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>>81788314

I do not have nearly enough Alpha Rose pictures.
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>>81788288
well that could only work with the kids that were sucked in, but why would the same door appear in front of everyone, also there is still the problem of when the MASTERPIECE happen.
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>>81788470
She ties him to the bed and forces him to fuck her every night
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>>81788431

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004526
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>have to wait months to hear any actual resolution for the kids
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>>81786552
SOURCE PLS REVERSE SEARCH IS SHOWING NOTHING
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>>81788515
you can't force the willing
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>>81788457
Oh, you're building up false hope just to see your non-expectations crumble in a masochistic rain of shattered dreams?
I was thinking of doing that myself, but I decided to just try and get over it instead.
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>we needed to 100% the game in order to unlock the best ending
>we lost 1% because john didn't shit on his desk
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>>81788494
>when the MASTERPIECE happen.
Muh interpenetration
We can only assume that it takes place once all the kids, since no trolls showed up, get bored of being gods on their new planet and/or universe, at which point john uses retcon powers to send the 8 to the other reality to fight kidborn. Post Scractch kids create cal and then [?] while the pre scratch kids are trapped in the juju and then show up at the end with vriska to beat LE and then die in the black hole
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>>81788515
>>
Did anyone else feel betrayed and disappointed to the point that they cried?
>>
>>81788613
Me. ;_;
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>>81787461
Don't read a webcomic called Homestuck
>>
I think he should have released Collide and Act 7 on the same day, because when taken together, it's not so bad.
>>
>>81788613
i just want him to get hit by a fucking bus im so sad
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>>81788613
I don't cry, but I felt really really... sigh.
>>
>>81788613
I just started laughing and couldn't fucking stop
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>>81788657
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>>81788661
Except it still doesn't answer so many of the fucking questions that act 6 and the Recton specifically brought up
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>>81788537
sounds like we're back in another pause
>>
I just wanted the ending to make me feel something.
but it didn't.

captcha: jade fat
>>
is there an hsg booru
>>
new thread when?
>>
GUYS DON'T YOU THINK IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON?
>>
>>81788537
its over anon
accept your fate
>>
>>81788613
Nearly, yes.
Honestly, an important rule in stories is "show, don't tell". Hussie just plainly disregarded that, in a webcomic of all things. He left us to piece together what's going on and what exactly happened, because he can't be bothered to explain shit.

I mean, seriously? This is supposed to wrap the story up?
>>
>>81788763
Image limit or 1000+ post like we've always fucking done
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>>81788515
So that's a yes
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>>81788781
we used to do at page 10
can't you remember
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>>81786313
I dreamt it was 3 flashes and a Alterniabound-style walkaround. I woke up immediately after seeing them all, checked the real website and I just wish I'd never woken up.
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>>81788574
>Dave never bleat like a goat for ironic purposes
>>
okay I finally gave it another watch and I'm starting to like it, it's pretty cool

there just needs to be so much more to tie up everything up

and why did the juju and lilypad door look exactly the same?
>>
>>81788799
I remember, anon
i also remember when people couldn't keep from making three separate threads at a time which is part of what got us banished eventually
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>>81782438
this
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>>81788547
Get to /aco/ right now
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>>81788822
That walkaround was such a common idea.
I used to be kind of skeptical of it, but it would be miles better then what we got.
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>>81788842
I don't get that part either.

Honestly, the animation is perfect. It just misses what it should've contained content-wise. It isn't a satisfying end, it cuts off before anything happens.
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>>81788842
The problem is this was basically Caliborn making an anime but Hussie forgot it was just supposed to be the last Caliborn segment and completely believes it's the ending to the comic
>>
>>81786698
Prince of Blood.
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>>81788842
What was there was great, it's just that there was fucking nothing there.
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>>81787461
1. All versions of you are interchangeable, your individual experiences do not matter - only your ideal self (in the Platonic sense) does
2. You will get shafted for no reason; other versions of you may succeed even though they're worse people than you
3. The best way to solve your problems is to have a wizard make sure they never happened in the first place
4. Villains will be rewarded and heroes will be punished and no one will know. Or worse, no one will care. There is no justice.
5. If you don't want to accomplish anything or work on your flaws, that's alright as long as you have friends to enable your shitty behavior.
6. Andrew Hussie is a con artist in disguise.

That's all we need to know.
>>
do you think hussie can write a good epilogue now that he doesn't have a massive obligation and deadlines to try and follow?

with all the pauses I think he was getting sick of it
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holy fuck the Alpha kids LITERALLY are stuck on Caliborns land for all fucking eternity
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>>81788893
ending on a walkabout for something that's earthbound inspired was a slam dunk, i can't believe it's not what we got
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>>81788980
holy shit that sounds horrible. The infighting that would cause in the group.
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At least I had a sex dream about Snowman last night. That was something.
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>>81788864
Shut the fuck up, that was a rare occasion at most.
You probably dont even remember that hsg was the fucking basis for literally every other general fuckhead. We were always the only ones trying to keep to ourselves and talk about our comic.
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>>81789034
To be honest, though, other than having a central cast of 4 kids with a median age of 13 (Paula was younger than 13, Poo was older) they don't really have much in common
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>>81788842
>and why did the juju and lilypad door look exactly the same?

Because maybe it's the door to the story of Homestuck

The frontside sucks you into the story and the backside, which we saw on the plattform was a way outside of the story
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>>81789096
No no I remember
What I'm saying is that the board still fucking hated our guts for it
I dunno maybe you're right maybe I don't remember, it's been years and years man
Cut a guy some slack
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>>81789034
I believed the "2 pages" rumor so I thought it was going to be one walkaround and one strife flash with Lord English. The walkaround could either come before and hype up the final battle or it could come after and serve as an epilogue.
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>>81788864
We were banished because we kept posting porn and circlejerking and the mods got tired of the majority of their reported post traffic coming from HSG. You don't know shit.
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>>81787447
Fucking Horriblesubs.
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>>81789143
Maybe I stated this wrong
I didn't actually mean that was directly one of the reasons, I meant like in the grand scheme of things it contributed a little
You don't have to sperg out on my case about it, shit
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>>81789027
They all take turns fucking Jake for an eternity. Lil' Seb watches.
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>>81789138
>What I'm saying is that the board still fucking hated our guts for it
Man I sure did love when every Korra Episode filled up literally half of /co/ for hours
That sure was a better alternative
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>>81789192
Homestuck is dead. Years of my life were wasted being deeply invested in absolutely meaningless bullshit. I'll get on every case I care to.
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>>81789215
Yeah, pretty much some dumb shit.
But are things better now? Or worse? Or basically just as bad?
Probably a bit of each. At least we don't have to be around of it.
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>>81786393
God, I almost feel bad
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>>81785183
Trolls were fine at first.

Except we got 12 and only 5 were important, with only 3 actually being likeable. So lots of wasted time. Then when that's finally over, here's a million of their ancestors! And dead selves! And ghosts!
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>>81788087
You'd need narration for that though.

>>81788537
But they're all happy anon :DDDD
That's all that counts :DDDDDDDDD

>>81788613
I didn't cry but I feel dead inside.
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No, you don't get it, this was an immersive experience

Now you know what the trolls felt like when they went to open their door and Bec Noir appeared
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>>81789402
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IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
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>>81789404
Hussie does it again!
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Wait a minute...

WHERE THE FUCK WAS JOHN IN THE FAST FORWARDED EARTH FUTURE? WHAT THE FUCK HE'S NOWHERE TO BE SEEN
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>>81786679
That's just a fancy name for cuckolding.
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>>81789469
getting cucked by calliope
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>>81789559
>getting cucked by a literal child

john's her dad dingus
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>>81789469
He was with roxy though?
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>>81789469
He was with Roxy and Calliope.

Aradia, Vriska, Sollux and Terezi are the only alive players not seen on the Earths future, and the first three are presumed dead.
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>>81789605
Roxy was going to give the ring to the person she married.

She gave the ring to Calliope.

HMMM, WHAT COULD THIS BE IMPLYING?
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>>81789620
>>81789639
fuck me im blind.
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>>81789727
she put aside that to bring her back to life, proving herself to be the ultimate Mom
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>>81789759
fuck off we dont care about your davezi smut
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>3 threads at the same time
Why
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As someone who quit years ago, but is enjoying reading all these discussions, it just dawned on me that I probably got more enjoyment from fanfics than the actual comic.
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>>81789488
who cucks who?
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>>81789795
Listen here you little shipdip fuck I ain't about that shit.
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So, who is going to write the first post-game fic?
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>>81789963
>Nightfall
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>>81790004
I mean ACTUAL post-game.
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>>81782382
Apparently Problem Sleuth also originally ended on a open ended note before an epilogue was later added.
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>>81789234

It's like claymation. You know, like ancient alternian slam poetry.

I don't even need to post the "boggle vacantly" page.
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>>81789027
wow fuck what else do we know related to this

- a6a6a6 was supposed to be a caliborn act
- caliborn was learning to draw good anime and can time travel
- caliborn's masterpiece? presumably that happened in some alternate doomed timeline and vriska freed the 4 beta kids using the juju? What happened to them?
- http://momnar.tumblr.com/post/142472633540/o-h-oh-no
- http://i.imgur.com/r0EWcSy.png
- what about doc scratch's bit on le being able to infect other realities? Haven't they trapped him in a stable loop forever?


somebody help me get these loose ends together.
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>>81790262
to add to this, caliborn's 'boggle vacantly at these shenanigans' thing

when jade visited mspa:
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002731

and caliborn's
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/ACT6ACT6.php?s=6&p=008161
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>>81790357
dd still has the ring
who sent the weapons to save john from bec noir
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>>81790262
>http://momnar.tumblr.com/post/142472633540/o-h-oh-no
oh fuck what
Homestuck can't be over with this hanging up in the air, can it?
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>>81790443
Jake sent them to Jade via transmitter, who then sent them to John via PM, which then got confiscated by Jack Noir, which was then re-gained by PM who just threw them to John.
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>>81790443

DD gave up the ring after using Red Miles. Condy then let Roxy have it to augment her void powers. Then Roxy lost it during the trickster arc.

So the hack solution is that it went into the black hole with Gamzee and the crowbar and Yaldabaoth.

The good solution is that it's the same ring as the Life ring and Calliope is still going to become Caliborn.
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>>81790713
true, all that shit including fridgeclown got dumped into the black hole
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>>81785545
Wow even this is a better resolution than what we got.

At least this one recognizes that the characters have a personality other than "generic happy people"
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>>81790837
>http://paperseverywhere.tumblr.com/post/142650608680/heres-a-repost-because-tumblr-is-a-huge-butt-xux
that was just from a reddit drawreq thread ;-;
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>>81785561
They are actually saying pedigree.
It's supposed to be perigee, which is an astronomical thing, but the song people got it wrong.
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>>81787837
faggot,step aside and let a REAL Knight of Hope claim his mantle.
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>>81790946
reddit should write homestuck
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>>81791085

Reddit wasn't even allowed to participate in Metastuck.
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>>81786868
Seriously, it is so mindnumbingly obvious that the ending should have been something like this. It's a character driven story. The character arcs should have been completed. Any halfway competent storyteller would have done this. What we actually got was an outsourced Gainax ending.
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