Andrew Hussie cucked you out of a good ending for Homestuck. Why not read something with a satisfying conclusion?
Why dont we just kill the Batman?
because Homestuck 2.0 will be PS going into Sburb anyway
Because I already did.
Several times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MK7qz13bU
Thread theme
>>81782382
Is Pickle Inspector a penis joke?
>>81782247
Homestuck ended with the demented skull child as its best character. That's what.
>>81782249
You're too late. The Karkat you knew and loved was already murdered. The one we have right now is a retconned doppelganger.
That's really the moment I stopped giving a shit about any of the characters other than Caliborn. Well, I'm also hoping Erisol shows up to "ruin" the ending.
I've read PS several times.
Without the epilogue it has a pretty meh ending too. Mind you the stakes were a lot lower but still, I'm not gonna be mad until the epilogue also proves disappointing.
>>81782452
As much as Ace Dick is.
>>81782382
> People that want everything explained on a fucking silver plate
I loved it because of the characters and the complexity. Thought provoking shit. And I loved the ending for that
>>81782431
No. Midnight Crew.
I don't know why people are still in tears when Hussie said we were getting an epilogue after Act 7.
What's the matter, too deep for you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UE81f0KbK0&feature=youtu.be
>>81782470
>The one we have right now is a retconned doppelganger.
So you are saying that everything that defined Karkat up till the end of Act 5 doesn't count?
>>81782470
god. Nu-KK sucks
and his biggest win was beating clover
who may have just LET him win
we don't know because we have no idea what those symbols mean because hussie never explained the lucky charms
Explaination of what happened for babbys
>>81782503
Because this so-called epilogue is a nebulous idea at this point.
It is a far cry from "there will be one more update sometime soon" or "there will be another flash" even.
>>81782526
Yes. Because his character "developed" so much off screen, that it may as well be someone else.
I mean, I got what I expected, but I have to say I'm a bit disappointed.
I hate mondays.
>>81782225
thats a good thing about this finale
i hope none of his theories worked out in the end
What are you guys doing now
>got into the comic because of the videogame imagery, programming jokes and promise of some cool fighting along the line
>start to lose hope of it ever acheiving its potential midway through act 4
>hussie seems dead set on making sure nothing can ever feel satisfying
>mfw act 5
I kept reading on and off to see how it ended, can't say I'm surprised by it being fucking bullshit.
The fight with the Condesce was everything I was hoping for in Homestuck. It was this kind of battle that was long overdue, but it was too little too late, and surrounded by more pointless bullshit.
In a way this felt like 8bit theater : hell bent on being a terrible experience for the reader just for the fuck of it.
>>81782503
The ending itself sucked! Yes I know we're getting a fucking epilogue, and I would rather it be a thousan words/page pesterlog chat than anything, but I wasn't satisfied at all by this ending! I'm happy it's over, but man it did not payoff in the end.
I'm done with this ride, I'll see you cosplaying faggots at anime conventions and I'll be holding my breath for the release of Hivebent on whether it's good or not.
let's make a compilation of shit that never got answered or was simply pointless
>rose never played the rain
>what was the deal with kurloz
>when do the kids fight caliborn to create LE like in claystuck
>what happened to the ghost army
>where are vriska and terezi
>what fucking ships are canon apart from fucking davekat apparently
>what happened to the shitty spites
>will someone say caliborn name to calliope one day and make caliborn wake up?
>the fuck happened to the clown
>What was karkat's role on the new society
>What happened to (vriska), hell what was even the point of making her?
>where the fuck is sollux
>What happened to the felt?
>Zillywave and Sawtooth
>How did LE got his coat
xth for poetry
>>81782544
>tfw this is wrong
>people were this desperate to save trolls and shit they ignored what was happening in the actual comic
Classic tumblr
>>81782589
*apart from Rosemary
>>81782544
stop, this pic is wrong
I feel like the Trickster arc was meant to have more prominence in the ending, but it got cut.
>>81782576
writing a research proposal
>>81782589
>when do the kids fight caliborn to create LE like in claystuck
Are you fucking serious?
>>81782544
Vriska is the last person to perform a heroic sacrifice.
>>81782642
what was even the point of that besides caucasiangate
>>81782652
When in their personal timelines do they ride the retcon wave into Caliborn's session?
>>81782544
> (Gamzee might be there too)
Nope. He's on Caliborns planet with the crowbar.
And the Juju theory is just what the surface might look like and leaves so much stuff open. If you theorize, then at least make it right, taking possible implications from Johns earlier encounter with it or the masterpiece into consideration
What became of fedorafreak? Did Lord Englishs influence extend to that session?
>>81782549
He barely changed, actually. If anything he showed some untapped maturity when Terezi went down, but al this potential is still there with current Karkat.
>>81782589
Where the FUCK is bec/jack noir?
>>81782678
>[x]gate
can you not
>>81782508
Lets have a moment of silence for all the characters who never developed.
>Gamzee
>Feferi
the retcon, the beforus trolls, the game over stuff...none of it even needed to happen. i've had a lot of faith in hussie bringing everything together up until this point but he just didn't. welp, time to never trust again
>>81782652
we literally don't know when they do that
or which version of them it is, for that matter
>>81782745
>Karkat
>Jane
>Joke
>Going through threads from last night
>Every shitposter from hsg history making an appearance
>tfw missed it because I was just a little too slow in catching up
This shit's gonna eat me up inside for years, probably
>>81782745
>Sollux
>Nepeta
>Every Beforus troll except for Aranea and Meenah
>Bro Strider
>>81782718
Sorry, Nixon.
Knowing now that Hussie has been planning this animation for years, I suspect that the chest Vriska is holding was originally going to be the one in Caliborn's room containing his juju, but Hussie scrapped the idea and created the Trickster arc instead.
>>81782745
gamzee arc didnt get closure but he did have some development
poor fefes didnt
Also fucking karkat his arc was so disappointing
>>81782580
I don't think 8-bit theatre was bent on being a terrible experience. The joke of the comic was that it was always raising your expectations to actually having the 4 work as a team as the 4 warriors of light and do something good for once instead of being shamelessly selfish assholes and it all ended on a one-off joke about 4 white mages beating Chaos.
Plus, it was 8-bit sprites man. Not much more to enjoy besides the banter and the Simpsons humor. I think it was pretty great and it ended well for me.
What was the point of sollux being half dead
>>81782745
Feferi represented the dying troll society. She's dead for a reason.
>>81782652
Uh, we still don't know when it actually happens.
>>81782503
Because we've been waiting for fuckyonkers and this was supposed to be the big climactic end.
Then it fails to actually tell us anything we didn't know already and does nothing but generate a bunch of "well what the fuck actually happened in that thing" that despite everyone and their hot mom taking a stab at that question we've still got nothing more solid than fucking guesses.
That's not an ending, that's the same bullshit we've been eating since forever.
And now we're supposed to be pinning our hopes of some manner of explanation for this shitclusterfuck that we've all been waiting with bated freedom to hear some sort of explanation that ties things together and lets us know where things stand now, and that's just a fucking afterthought tacked onto the end of the post with an "oh, maybe in a few months or something, we'll see".
I'm a mite mad, so I've probably said something dumb here, but w/e, hope that gives you some understanding of why someone would be upset about the current state of affair.
>>81782678
it was originally the introduction of game glitches
the only way to weaken LE was to use a glitch, and dave would kill him with ol' welshy
trickster mode was a glitch. Other glitches were introduced along the way
>>81782716
He used to be a scary motherfucker, before timeskip happened and LE stole the show
Apparently even Hussie forgave him, since he is probably allowed to live in the new world as a cripple.
>>81782498
Fuck off Andrew
>>81782503
Do you even know what an epilogue is?
The story is over.
>>81782589
>when do the kids fight caliborn to create LE like in claystuck
During his masterpiece.
>where are vriska and terezi
Vriska is with the army. Terezi with the kids in the new universe.
> the fuck happened to the clown
Landed on Caliborns planet with the crowbar.
> What was karkat's role on the new society
Is that really important? How every character will be a contribution to society? dafuq
>What happened to (vriska), hell what was even the point of making her?
Terezi: Remem8er
>What happened to the felt?
Got defeated
>Zillywave and Sawtooth
It was silly shit. Not everything silly HAS to be relevant. Especially when it's trickster shit
>>81782774
and i was fucking sleeping, damnot
>>81782819
>it was originally the introduction of game glitches
oh right, thanks anon
>>81782747
>the retcon, the beforus trolls, the game over stuff...none of it even needed to happen
I disagree.
The beforus Troll especially, as he used it all the amount they needed to and made the plot move forward whil providing interresting background story.
As for the retcon they showed great optential. the issue is that this potential remained unused.
GO! was great, though.
>>81782774
What, are there screenshots? Did that guy who original come into /hsg/ threads to talk about how shit homestuck was 5 years back and berate us all for liking it show up? He was the guy that we all liked and revered, even though he hated us because he had the whole hateful, Karakat troll persona-thing going on.
>>81782249
BUT BREATH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FREEDOM
>>81782828
Reminder that jack overthrowing the black queen was badass
>>81782819
The glitch is that Caliborn was able to trap the kids inside of the Juju without the event occurring anywhere on their timeline.
>>81782498
>complexity
Have we been reading the same comic?
I'm not entirely sure with what I even wanted for an ending.
>>81782860
>During his masterpiece.
No. You're not understanding the question. When, IN THE KID'S OWN TIMELINE, do they carry out the masterpiece. Is it after John opens the door at the end? How long after? When the hell does it actually take place? Nobody knows.
>>81782875
They're all in the archive
>>81759525
>>81756691
etc.
>>81782589
Where is DD and the Dronegorg?
>>81782867
plus as we see with Jake's headset jawn
trickster LE would have been practically human
>>81782801
>gamzee arc didnt get closure
He gets split in half
>>81782382
Was there any analogues for PS, PI, AD or MK in Homestuck?
>>81782508
I wouldn't compare act 7 to the TV ending of Evangelion.
At least in homestuck we see what the main characters really end up as instead of just having some psycho vision.
>>81782544
GODDAMN HOW CAN PEOPLE BE THIS FUCKING WRONG
>>81782818
>I'm a mite mad, so I've probably said something dumb here
You were pretty much saying dumb shit front to back in that post, yeah.
>all these idiots actually expecting Hussie to give them what they wantd
it's like you guys never actually read homestuck live
>>81782544
Are you implying that this headcanon shit makes any sense
>>81782873
Both the Retcon and GO! were pointless in the grand scale of things, it unnecessarily bloated the narrative and was pretty much filler that doesn't matter.
>>81782927
I wonder if he survived the destruction of the universe and is just honking softly, a single tear runs down his cheek while the juju floats in the background
>>81782927
That timeline was retconned
>>81780574
>boobs
>hips not at least twice as wide as shoulders
>>81782932
What if this is still Homestuck As Told By Caliborn though and none of it is real
>>81782681
>>81782810
>>81782769
>Lil cal and doc scratch mess with other universes and sessions
A2->A1->B1
>B2 is created and LE is loose in dream bubbles
>Vriska finds the Juju sent out in Masterpiece
>John retcon hax the bad end into a good end maintain Alpha
>alt!Caliople goes Session Wipe Extravaganza and creates a black hole (pocket)
>B1 kids let out of the juju (or LE stuck in it)
>B1 and LE (in or out of juju) pocketed along with all of dream bubbles vris/sollux/aradia
B2->Cherubs session
>cherub session kids (b1/2) train up
>Trolls die off as no God tier trolls entered Cherub session
>John retcons in to caliborn with max level kids
>b1 sealed
>b2 seals caliborn and creates lil cal and through him LE
Cherub->k->A2
>shit repeats and lil cal calls the previously stuck LE into universe fucking
>doc and lil cal fuck shit up
REPEAT until B2
As for when masterpiece starts? He notes they have taken their time to over level something you cant do in B2 sesh with LE imminent
>actual end of the comic is shown in crappy claymation
>>81782544
>...which signifies the circular nature of Homestuck... That SBURB will return, somehow, to this new universe, and it will all begin again, eventually
But I wanted to see the kids actually escape from that cycle, what with Paradox Space being the flawed reality and all that. I wanted to see the kids actually gain enlightenment as true gods. If this ending's supposed to represent circularity, then it might as well just be a loop to the first page.
>>81782652
>Are you fucking serious?
yes I am you retard, because we know how did that happened but my question is WHEN does that take place
>>81782652
Yes
>>81782910
Thank you.
>>81782884
pity that never went anywhere.
>>81782544
This is fake.
>>81782974
nope
It's them after they've lived in their world
>>81783008
Mother fucker
>>81782929
The Midnight Crew for Team Sleuth.
Lord English is basically DMK.
>>81782589
>>rose never played the rain
That was only important in a normal game, their game got fucked so it stopped being important
>>what was the deal with kurloz
Lord English servant who did his mission in his own game, so basically a one off character of no importance
>>when do the kids fight caliborn to create LE like in claystuck
Before John retconned everything
>>what happened to the ghost army
All gone or maybe not who cares they were doomed timelines
>>where are vriska and terezi
Vriska maybe see above
But Hussie storyboarded this 4 years ago, maybe they were originally meant to die and he didnt bother to change shit
>>what fucking ships are canon apart from fucking davekat apparently
John/Roxy and Kanaya/Rose for sure, everything else is open in the air
>>what happened to the shitty spites
Maybe they disappear when the game ends
>>will someone say caliborn name to calliope one day and make caliborn wake up?
No
>>the fuck happened to the clown
Forever trapped
>>What was karkat's role on the new
society
Irrelevant, dies of old age eventually
>>What happened to (vriska), hell what was even the point of making her?
She lives happily ever after with (Terezi)
>>where the fuck is sollux
With Aradia
>>What happened to the felt?
Locked away probably
>>Zillywave and Sawtooth
Just robot side gags so irrelevant
>>How did LE got his coat
Stitch made it probably
>>81782960
They were certainly not pointless.
GO! was the lowest momnets for the character and the Retcon power was the only way to defeat LE, as the original main timeline would have resulted in his victory.
Plus, the way it was introduced and how it allowed to branch out from old strips was a very neat trick that alone justify its existence.
>>81782940
>its supposed to be shit
>ending is so bad that I want to vote for trump to destroy the planet
WAIT HOLD UP
WHY DID JOHN NEED THE WALLET?
>>81783008
who is that dude
i see him all over /pol/
>>81782982
Not enough claymation.
>>81783071
>He doesn't know about Carl the Cuck
Are you kidding me?!
>>81783067
it's where the ending of homestuck was being kept before it got thrown in the toilet to stoke the genesis fart
>>81783063
I'm not defending it, but anyone acting surprised is an idiot. It wasn't even that bad of an ending, especially considering there will be an epilogue.
I was kind of expecting a credits roll with Song of Skaia. Kind of weird that Hussie didn't use that opportunity - it felt like an obvious ending theme the moment I heard it.
>>81783071
the new face of liberalism
>>81783052
>GO! was the lowest momnets for the character
Indeed, for the character. Not characters. Only John and Roxy developed because of GO! and the Retcon.
The retcon was pointless, Vriska could've stayed dead and it wouldn't have made a difference.
>>81782940
There's been plenty of times where the results of complicated nonsense has been laid out plainly: all the stuff with the timelocked flowers, the bunny's journey through the continuity, [S] MSPA Reader: Mental breakdown.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect the fucking CONCLUSION to pull together the stuff that came before it and tie things up.
DAD IS FUCKING JANE
>>81783071
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
>>81782508
>>81783071
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!
>>81783021
Gamzee gets sawed in two when kanaya gets blasted by the condense. John retcons this so it never actually happened.
Speed-reader confirmed.
>>81783128
those were for charity clark
Time to put on your big boy continuity boots now
>>81783107
remember when Song of Skaia was a meme
good times
Can somebody explain to me what the fuck was the point of the Felt ? Their introduction took a lot of space, Jake has to fight them because ... reasons ? And they were completely irrelevant front to bottom.
>>81783133
Hussie was always a canon pedo.
>>81783175
Oh, you're a moron. He gets sawed in half in the Caliborn fight as well. Go reread it.
>>81783181
well the answer is quite simple you see
the felt are the best characters in homestuck apart from Spades Slick
>>81783202
The Caliborn fight hasn't happened yet outside of a vision.
Is there anything like the first four acts of Homestuck I can read? I'm ready to move on to something else.
the artist of the final flash confirmed it took her from March 2015-December 2015 to do.
>>81782860
>During his masterpiece
see>>81782909
>Landed on Caliborns planet with the crowbar.
how did he even got the crowbar? this just opens more questions, also do you happen to have the page where he lands on the fridge? I thought him being with caliborn happened when he was on the ship
>Is that really important?
Well the comic sure made it look important, what the fuck was the point on showing us him going to talk to nix and all of that shit if hussie was never going to talk about it on the end
>Terezi: Remem8er
so... just gay singularity?
>Got defeated
No but I mean what happened to them AFTER they got defeated? Jake sure as hell didn't killed them so just what happened with them?
>>81782993
The kids will probably escape it, but the universe itself won't. There will just be other players in the new universe. Though what happens to former gods when a planet gets destroyed by SBURB is up in the air.
Also, I just realized we never got any resolution to the Skaia-Corp thing. I guess it's irrelevant, probably just this universe's way of bringing SBURB about like the ruins on Alternia, but still.
>Karkat the cuck
>Terezi the forgotten one
CANON
A
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Truly a match made in heaven
>>81782984
You're just gonna keep obnoxiously parading your fanon, aren't you?
There's no indication the new universe created is the Cherub's session.
>>81782508
>>81783239
>Hussie could've told her to add Terezi
>he didn't
>>81782860
>Vriska is with the army. Terezi with the kids in the new universe.
So Vriska's dead, right? Along with Sollux and Aradia?
>Terezi: Remem8er
So, entirely pointless?
>>81783265
skianet, not skiacorp.
aaaand 5 years later i JUST realized that was a SkyNet gag. Fuck me.
>post yew you remember people talk about hussie killing characters but the only dead characters are:
>equius
>nepeta
>half sollux
>lusi and guardians
>beforus trolls
>handmaiden
>HIC
like even the big bad LE isn't dead
Where did snowman get her ability? I thought she was the queen of the trollses session
>Had an idea kind of similar to homestuck
>Couldn't write it all this time because it would probably be accused of plagiarism
>Homestuck ended up being shit
fuck me maybe I could get away with it now that homestuck is dead
>>81783233
waterworks is pretty good
>>81783226
oh man so that means Gamzee survived [S] Collide
>>81783306
LE might as well be dead
Why the fuck do Karkat and her have almost the same character arc?
I can sense it and no, not in a bullshit shipping way.
At times like this we must remember the wise words Andrew Hussie gave us to live by several years ago.
>We decide to agree this conflict is not a big enough deal to warrant a detailed examination of the action, or an embedded musical accompaniment. We also agree that while that would have been pretty sweet, we are also in kind of a hurry here. But if it were to be accompanied by something audible, it would probably sound something like this. We decide to listen to that track, close our eyes, and imagine what might have been.
>Wow that sure was awesome.
>Anyway, moving on.
>>81783300
>Vriska dying while she has both regular plot armor and plot armor as her literal in-game powers
>>81783334
Yeah, he, the crowbar and Yaldaboath all took a trip to Caliborn's session through the hole in reality Jack English made.
Why did Hussie not explain this?
>>81782921
If Slick pulled the final pin and revived Snowman, would he also revive the A2 universe?
>>81783318
Doc made her the universe after she lost in the troll session
funnily enough, she lost because Aradia made her sprite with a frog, and dersites hate frogs, so the queen wouldn't wear the ring
being Snowman, she was in charge of the felt
frog-like creatures
and became the universe
a giant frog
>>81783306
>like even the big bad LE isn't dead
why would you ever think LE would die
he can't die
that's his whole thing
that's the one thing the ending did right
the only way to beat a Lord of Time like that is get him stuck in a loop
and LE is stuck in a dead session, in a dead universe,left behind
How do I feel...?
Please tell me, pseudo-/hst/.
>tfw an epilogue won't solve the wasted potential of that character you like
Aradia, fuck.
UPDATE
P
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>>81782508
Fucking fantastic. I loved the Evangelion TV ending, though.
>>81783334
>oh man so that means Gamzee survived [S] Collide
Yes. One of the more popular theories is that he ended up on Caliborn's earth through the black hole that was created after Jack English was decapitated in [S] Collide.
>>81783385
where the fuck is sollux
>>81783385
I still don't know if she's supposed to be dead.
What happened to "alive and intending to stay that way"?
>>81783358
>Why did Hussie not explain this?
I dunno. He's giving people who pay attention to the comic a chance to be elitist shitheads and lord over everyone since we figured out the ending.
Clearly this should be celebrated.
>>81783306
>like even the big bad LE isn't dead
holy shit do you actually even read homestuck? LE was never going to die, just be defeated by getting stuck in a stable time loop
>>81783367
>he can't die
yes he can
exploit a glitch to remove his powers and then let dave kill him as is foretold
make him go trickster then use the house and Dave could kill him with ol' welshy
did you not read the comic?
he's inviclbe in-game
remove him from the game, he dies
>>81783328
Execution is everything. All art is recursive.
Shoot m8
>>81783306
You forgot thousands of MSPA readers who are dead inside right now.
>>81783339
>no, not in a bullshit shipping way.
>he doesn't like karkat/vriska
pleb
>>81783439
There is no timeloop. LE gets stuck in the juju, then abandoned in a black hole. That's the end of him.
>>81783455
What glitches did anyone exploit? How is alternate Caliope a glitch?
>>81783339
>almost
Anon.
One is actually justified for having combat experience.
The other one wasted his years watching romcoms and playing video games.
>>81783455
>exploit a glitch to remove his powers and then let dave kill him as is foretold
right, exactly, that's how it was supposed to happen
but that was then, and this is now
dave never got to drop it like it's hot when the pimp was in the crib, because fuck it, hussie needed an ending
Regardless of an epilogue are we going to rewrite A6, right? Because I'm planning to it. What I want to do:
>act 6 is now 50~60% of its original size
>the history up to A6A3 stays the same, only compressed
>no meenahquest, beforus trolls besides meenah/aranea are as background stuff as ancestors
>each alpha kid has their own flash with an unique song
>alpha kids have one associated element (megazord parts? baseball roles? idk) like the betas have instruments
>each character has its arc resolved (rose and karkat im looking at you)
>more focus on SBURB and less in plot contrivance
>dont change caliborn, hes too perfect for this world
>keep trickster mode but with the CAUCASIAN joke
>no post-retcon, vriskagram or R3M3MB3R
>make davekat more foreshadowed and natural but also mock people who read for shippings
>squared sprites still exist but have better execution. This obviosuly means a better dialogue of them
>keep [S]Collide on the rewrite because its so damn good
>blood is waterbending or some other non-metaphorical power and karkat actually uses it
>a recap on the comic like hussie used to do
>a different ending for gods sake
But I need more writers and someone who can emulate hussie's stlye.
It feels like there's this really big hole in my heart now, like there's something missing
Anyone else?
homestuck should have stayed a story about four kids playing a game
>>81783385
Same. Had a soft spot for Sollux, Terezi, and Feferi too. Literally my 4 favorite (troll) characters in order.
Outside of the trolls was Snowman, PM (good ending, I guess), Jade, Casey, then the trolls, then, like idunno, Doc and Japanese bitch troll.
>>81783524
>dave never got to drop it like it's hot when the pimp was in the crib
jack english was an avatar of le
>THAT FEEL WHEN. YOU WERE. BY A LARGE MARGIN. THE ***BEST*** CHARACTER IN THE STORY.
>THAT FEEL WHEN. EVEN THOUGH YOU SUFFERED A DEFEAT. WHICH WAS RATHER AMBIGUOUS??? YOU WILL BE MORE AND BETTER REMEMBERED. THAN THE PUNK WIMP TEENS WHO BEAT YOU.
TRULY MY VICTORY IS COMPLETE. EVEN THOUGH IT IS NONEXISTENT.
>>81783527
Fuck TGT is a masterpiece
>>81783527
>alpha kids have one associated element (megazord parts? baseball roles? idk) like the betas have instruments
Noble Gases
>>81783385
>Sollux is still half dead doing nothing
At least he scored.
>>81782508
Oh my god this is fucking hilarious.
"You ran out of ink too, didn't ya you BASTARDS?"
I've seen this NGE scene a dozen times before but never has it been more fitting than for the finale end of Homestuck.
I hate how the ending isn't really the ending, but the Masterpiece is.
>>81783505
THATS MY POINT
he was SUPPOSEd to be killed
Hussie details exactly how
that is the whole point of the trickster arc
it's dave's banner in the game
it's why he made glfwidlch
fuck
the whole point is a time loop or a juju can't actually hold LE
he's a time player who control space to a point and has the coat
he has to be killed, not just stopped
Coulda been worse.
>>81783389
I did not believe you, and yet I looked for it.
By the way, has anyone tried desperate measures?
Like, maybe there's some meta bullshit you need to do to the site in order to unlock a true ending or something.Of course not.
>>81783580
Thats an associated theme for their planets, not characters.
Where's the coat, Hussie?
>>81783563
I would much rather see Caliborn victorious than done in by something so lame as Alt-Calliope just showing up out of nowhere and destroying the Green Sun.
>>81783367
The way it looked to me, Calliope cancelled out LE's immortality, Vriska then used the Juju which presumably let the 4 kids through to finish him off. Why we did not FUCKING SEE THIS is beyond me.
>>81783592
>here lies karkat
>>81783524
>tfw we could have had this ending if Dave had stopped being a pussy about his time powers sooner
goddammit, dave. the time shit fight scenes with him and dirk were satisfying though
>>81783632
Could it have been?
I'm rereading and having fun again. What about you guys?
>>81783558
he wasnt a pimp
LE was a pimp because caliborn sought to own and control women, as well as ran shit like a MOFO
So, do we know what happened during the 48 squiddle session, and how the squiddles are related to the Horrorterrors? We know the squiddle session (or sessions if we assume a scratch) was successful and they created Beforus/Alternia because of the 48 troll zodiac signs, but who created the squiddle session, if the C1 session (Cherubs) wasn't a game that could create a new universe?
Going back to the horrorterrors, they seem to be connected to the squiddles as well, obviously. But why isn't this explained concretely? If the squiddles are supposed to be representations of the horrorterrors, does that mean the horrorterrors were players?
>>81783527
>Baseball Roles
Do they get to go to the Invitational?
>>81783664
Absolutely. We could have gotten a PSYCHE-OUT!! and another 3 month pause.
>inb4 "is a psyche-out not exactly what we got"
>>81783648
That's what I was thinking as well. I need to reread the juju bits from act 6 to understand it better, but I was expecting the original 4 to just explode out the fucking house and slice shit up.
>>81783689
Do you believe feferi is fat too
>>81783683
I plan to reread it sometime, but jesus christ that's an undertaking. I first caught up during Scratch's narration, and even that took me a week of constant reading.
>>81783713
Not as fat as Vriska.
>>81783634
It's too late for that man. It's too late.
I've tried coping with this for the past 2 years and now I'm accepting that Homestuck is over...It's not the greatest thing it once was to me and now it's just sorta mediocre. It's over now and I'm accepting of the fact. You should too, /co/mrade. It's all over for now.
mass suicide anyone?
>>81783385
At the very least it'll be better
I do agree with the one guy, without the epilogue, PS is kind of lackluster.
The problem now though, is the way Hussie wrote it, it seems like the epilogue is now an afterthought, something he's doing as damage control
>>81783648
Nnnnnnnnno.
No.
Clocks decide immortality.
All Green Sun does is supply First Guardians with powers, and LE abused this power to shit rainbow lasers.
After waking up it really hit me at how inconclusive this ending was. It's actually a pretty good reflection of Hussie's relationship with his fans now. The lovingly crafted well done animation represents the still rabid fandom while the complete lack of writing and story represents just how much Hussie just did not care about this comic at the end.
I was planning a reread after the end, but unless the epilogue, that he might not even do, is really good I'll probably pass on that.
>>81783474
>Karkat/Vriska
>Nepeta shipped it red and hates it for opposing her OTP
>it never fucking happens in the story and Karkat fell for Terezi instead
The fuck was the cat troll thinking?
>the house shoots energy at LE
>the energy than returns to the house while the door opens
He got Homestuck.
are the god tier kids still immortal? is rose going to have to watch her wife get old and die?
>>81783774
Has anyone ever tried hijacking a rocket yet? We could all fly off into the sun like pieces of garbage.
>>81783544
I think that most of us feel the same way.
I am a ghost, I feel like something is missing and I can't pass away.
>>81783683
I was planning on rereading the whole thing, but I don't know if I want to anymore after knowing how it ends so unsatisfactorily
>>81783794
it was a shipping table, she had accounted for all possible ships her notes simply specified her stance on each
>>81783774
You first.
>>81783689
Well first off, the Squiddles Session was a joke.
Secondly, the Cherub session takes place on Post-Apocalyptic Alpha Earth. All the shitty JPEG Statues of Liberty were promotional items for Ancestor Dave's SBAHJ movie.
>>81783779
The animation implied that rainbow eyeball shit was due to the broken clock. All that massive energy was pouring into Caliborn's eyes.
Then presumably right after the kids teleport in and beat is ass.
>>81783794
>gamzee/terezi
>probably not!
lol
>>81783817
Yes. It's great.
>>81783817
yup
because Roxy is too stupid to make slabs
>>81783774
Sure
>>81783820
It's not even just the comic, actually, but also knowing that HSG is basically gone forever. I dunno I've broken down about this like a few times already tonight/today.
>>81783852
I just noticed that
>>81783779
All I know is the whole plan was to use an exploit to make him killable, I'm assuming that getting rid of the Green Sun is, lamely, that exploit.
>>81783648
Green sun had nothing to do with LE's powers or immortality, that's just for first guardians. All Calliope destroying the green sun seemed to accomplish was making space break apart and get sucked into its black hole
>>81783862
that's pathetic and disgusting and you should probably just end yourself now to make it easier for everyone
>>81783683
In years, maybe. When it will feel all fresh and new. I got into Homestuck right when Rose discovered her land, and I had been following it in and out ever since. Hell, I think the first time I ever clicked on mspa was when John enetered in his land and all I kept hearing was Doctor play as I tried to figure out the website.
It's too much time and effort to go through and undertaking reading all of that again, for now.
Plus, after Hivebent the comic took a nose dive and became more shitty for me.
>>81783880
but it isn't
his powers aren't green sun related
which i figure hussie forgot
he'd lose his omniscience
not his actual abilities
>>81783907
True.
>>81783624
Yeah, we basically stopped short of the most significant events on the kids' timelines. They still have to go fight Caliborn, get sucked into the juju, then come out of the juju and go straight into fighting Lord English
also wow, I just realized that Caliborn's masterpiece has audio
We didn't see the LE fight and his death because we didn't see the Caliborn's final fight and LE's birth.
It's pottery
The important question is will the MAP ever be finished
>>81783851
Well either way LE's unconditional immortality comes from the fact that he got to break his God Tier clock, meaning that he literally and absolutely cannot be killed.
>>81783880
B-b-b-but what does it exploit. Without Green Sun, he's still untouchable. Hell even if they did beat him down, he would just get up as John did back when Jack killed him.
>>81783931
i hate the fuckin pottery meme
the Cairo overcoat is powered by the green sun
destroying it meant LE cannot escape
>>81783747
I guess so.
I've been thinking about questions we still have no answers to. Feel free to add.
What happened to the Sprites?
The Dream Bubbles?
The Ghosts?
The Consorts?
The Felt?
When in the timeline do the kids fight Caliborn?
Where did he get the Ring from?
How did Vriska's coat become the Cairo Overcoat?
What happened to Ms. Paint?
Bec Noir?
What happened to Aranea?
Did Vriska survive?
Did the Matriorb plot go anywhere?
Are new Trolls going to be made?
What is The Ultimate Riddle?
Did that Black Hole made from Jack English lead to Caliborn's session?
What about Tavrosprite?
How did the Genisis Frog just suddenly lead out from the volcano?
>>81783544
Yep. I haven't been as active in the fandom as I once was for like 2 years now, but it's weird. It's like finding out a best friend you lost contact with died.
>>81783907
Fuck off, man, even if it wasn't the best at times it was an important comic to a lot of people.
>>81783862
I started to tear up a little when I put on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJWO4WaQh_Y but other than that it's just this weird feeling.
>>81782508
Fantastic.
>>81783916
>>81783826
>>81783731
Try it friends, the comic is so goddamn long that I forgot most of the jokes already. And I'm picking up new nuances to the characters that my young self didn't pick up, like Sollux being moody as fuck.
>>81783943
THEY
GLITCH
THE
GAME
AND
PULL
LORD
ENGLISH
OUT
OF
IT
LIKE
WITH
THE
TRICKSTERS
SO
HE
LOSES
ALL
POWER
AND
BECOMES
KILLABLE
So davekat will happen in the epilogue, right?
>>81783339
They want to prove that they aren't shit?
>>81783919
>>81783919
I'm just stating what seemed to be implied by the animation. I'm making no claims as to it making any sense.
>>81782993
>>81783265
there planet has the statues of liberty, it is the planet that will eventually become caliborn / calliope's planet. It will be destroyed by a giant cherub at some point in the future and then caliborn will play sburb and he will never finish it, ending the cycle.
>>81783947
Yeah honestly
> DUDE ALL SYMBOLISM AND CALLBACKS ARE STUPID LMAO
>>81783943
As an addendum, they couldn't even handle kid Caliborn and had to seal him away. What hope do they have against English.
>>81783966
why was sollux half dead?
Hey, I'm just wondering, is there some kind of chat or a group chat where all the homestuck fans are hanging around at? It might be bad or even cancerous, but I would like to feel like I'm in the community again talking about Homestuck again.
>>81783952
where is that ever said ever at all
its a fucking juju
not a guardian
>>81783981
Remind me what happens with the tricksters and pulling people out the game?
it still feels fake
>>81782593
I remember this comic. They actually had an XKCD meetup at those coordinates and time.
Well, in the actual XKCD comic, I mean.
>>81784012
The B1 never got a shot at him. He sealed them immediately because B1 could rek his shit. Be fucked b2 up pretty well before getting sealed tho
>>81783300
Pre-retcon Vriska and pre-retcon Terezi finding themselves again and post-retcon Terezi remembering everything isn't exactly what I call "pointless".
Was it also pointless, that Dirk and Dave had their big talk to vent about stuff, where Dave even says, that it won't change much so boldly?
And it's not clear what happend with the black hole and paradox space. If it consumed everything, just a huge chunk of it or whatever. Especially since space doesn't work there as we might think it does.
>>81783966
maybe you should separate the important ones and the "not so relevant" ones in two separate lists
>>81784035
the coat isn't a juju you moron, when it teleports onto him it had the first guardian warp effect
It's just Vriskas coat with magic shit in it
>>81783367
>that's his whole thing
Pretty sure his whole thing is "Already here"
>>81783981
How?
The juju works only once, doesn't it?
Or do you mean using the Unstuck powers?
Because golly gee none of that is shown in the flash.
>>81784027
Because he has 2 video game lives in sgrub because he hacks
>>81783982
The only reason Karkat was with Dave and Jade is that he's there to babysit their puppies
>>81784012
>OG 4 kids
>go to the furthest ring with the horror terrors to aid in the fight, using the best of all possible timelines in the right order for every move
>including the other 4 kids, there is absolute hope that they will win and no doubt as they surge forward and any aids LE has are taken and thrown into a void even he cannot find while no one dies or is brought back
>include TZ and Vriska, best of the best of all possible timelines and the most perfect luck to achieve it
>>81783367
how is he stuck in a loop? where are you getting that from?
I know some people are wondering about Gamzee.
He's sliced in half, and during the last few moments of his shitty clown live the other half of his sad floppy body is sucked into the black hole. Which might mean he's dead. I dunno. One second a black hole's a teleporter another one it's an actual black hole
I wonder how non-Homestuck readers read this thread.
Have you shed a tear for Homestuck yet, /co/? No shame if you have.
I wasn't going to, but then I recalled all the close friends I made through it, all the hours spent geeking over updates with friends and with HSG, all the time I spent on probably shitty cosplay that was still fun as hell. Homestuck was a lot more to me than the comic itself.
Anyone else hit unexpectedly hard by this?
>>81784027
Because he's a Gemini and/or Seer of Doom.
