What is unironically the best superhero movie?
Not this, it's awful but deep to many here that saw it at age 12 or whatever. Ledger as le random spooky guy is the only interesting bit.
Either: Watchmen, BvS, GotG, Sin City, Hellboys...
>>81701254
Unbreakable
>>81701285
>age 12
I was 19 when The Dark Knight came out and now I feel old.
>>81701254
Spiderman 2 of Watchmen.
Yeah that's probably it. Not that it means much.
I can't tell if the people saying Watchmen are joking or not.
Depending on your definition of superhero, I'd say Dredd.
>>81701254
It's a great crime thriller, but te only superhero elements are the ways the protagonist and antagonists dress. It's not a good Batman movie, It's a good movie with Batman in it.
>>81701285
>bvs, watchmen, and guardians of the meme are better than the dark knight
they arent even better than batman begins. shit taste there senpai
even The Phantom is better than gotg
>>81701254
As always, it depends upon what you're looking for out of the experience, but Iron Man, Spider-Man 2 and Deadpool are all pretty much perfect in terms of capturing absolutely everything that makes the characters in question work, and presenting them to the movie-going public in a way that's instantly accessible.
Between this and the first Iron Man.
>>81701285
>>81701304
>Watchmen
But that's wrong.
>>81703278
I never understood why Iron Man is considered one of the best when the X-men, Spider-man and Batman movies all came out before and did the same the former did with better results.
The Dark Knight surpasses all levels of the superhero genre, people like to believe Spiderman 2 is on those levels but that's just nonsense. The Dark Knight is an incredible film regardless of it being based on comic books.
The next one in line would probably be BvS which is ahead of its time so it doesn't resonate properly with the audience.
>>81704343
>The next one in line would probably be BvS
oh, boy here we go
Nice one false flaggers, trying to discredit the Dark Knight by implying BvS is in the same league. Its not.
>>81703395
Did what the same? All those movie are very different.
>>81703395
not him, but I really think the first movie nailed the characters and did a pretty decent revision of tony's story.
I also thought it had one of the best balances between the comedic and serious atmosphere
>>81704469
I enjoyed both, but TDK is a way better finished product.
>>81701285
>Calls people 12 but then has GotG in his list
Life is so full of ironies
>>81705050
>referring to media as products
Fuck off you pedantic fuck.
/tv/ please go back
>>81701254
Posting in a Company Wars thread.
>>81701254
Blade
Batman 89
ITT: people try to prove how hipster they are by mentioning movies literally no one remembers.
>>81701254
The Dark Knight Rises
>>81701285
>this nigga said bvs
Is ghost world cheating?
>>81701254
BvS (for now)
>>81701254
Spiderman 2. Not debatable.
>>81705837
I prefer the first one to be honest.
Kickass
>>81701254
It's Sin City.
>>81705190
This man speaks the truth
>Picking anything but The Dark Knight Rises
You didn't fly so good.
>>81701285
>BvS
>>81701254
It sure isn't the Dark fuckin' Knight.
My list probably goes
Blade
X2
Iron Man
Batman Begins
Spider-Man
Yes Spider-Man and not the sequel where he loses his powers and gets them back without explanation.
>>81701254
>not one person ITT said Superman or Burton Batman
What's with all this shit taste?
Scott Pilgrim easily. Only movie that tried to actually do something interesting with the idea of being a comic book movie.
Well okay, it and Hulk but Scott Pilgrim actually succeeded.
plebs
>>81708351
The only thing Burton's Batman has going for it is Nicholson and an aesthetic that the cartoon improved upon.
Superman is slow as shit.
>>81708351
I was gonna list both of those movies but the /co/ntrarian kids here don't understand movies released before '05.
>>81701254
Dredd
>>81701440
So basically you're saying that it transcends the usual capeshit trappings and manages to be an incredible piece of media in its own right?
What's the problem here again?
Isn't that the exact reason why Watchmen (the book) is so well regarded?
>>81703278
Yeah Batman Begins is hands down.
>ctrl+f Mystery Men
>phrase not found
You should be ashamed, /co/.
definitely blade and raimis first spiderman
>>81701254
Superman III
no, I'm not joking
>>81701285
You have fucking disgusting taste.
>>81705152
You're pretty cool anon
>>81701254
No clue but I can tell you what the WORST superhero movie ever is
>>81701254
Dark Knight is great, but it doesn't really have the feel of a superhero movie so I don't know for sure if I'd count it.
Honestly probably Spiderman 2. But the first Iron Man is a contender. It struck a great balance between feeling like a comic while being grounded in reality.
>>81701285
>Watchmen
This is a telltale sign that you're a manchild
>>81701445
>they arent even better than batman begins
Batman Begins is better than The Dark Knight. It's the only good installment of the Dark Knight Saga, and even it is almost ruined by Batman breaking his no killing rule twice.
>>81701254
Spider-Man 1 & 2
Blade
Batman and Batman Returns
Hellboy 1 & 2
The Mask
>>81710611
Kek I love that Marveldrones try to make this argument. Its a superhero movie faggot sorry.
Blade
I know a lot of people shit on Spawn, but I thought it had a good comic book atmosphere
>>81701254
Hercules
>I mean, HUNKULES
>>81710757
It's also a contender for my favorite movie. I was just saying that for me it's hard to think of it as a great superhero movie. Stay mad company-wars fag.
>>81710582
It's not even out yet.
>>81701285
GotG is shit, add MoS to that list
Can't really decide on the best, but the first one that brought me the same joy I got when reading comic books was this one. Haven't seen it in years, but I must have watched it a hundred times as a kid.
>>81701429
I didn't care for the theatrical version, but the cut was pretty good. Wouldn't even put it in the top 3 though.
>>81710468
Why do you think that?
>>81705094
How is he pedantic when you're the one complaining about the terminology...?
>>81703278
Iron man breaks down in the last third, it becomes garbage, Begins is good from start to finish
>any answer that isn't Spider-Man 2
Ya'll need ta fuck off
>>81705592
Are there superheroes in Ghost World?
>>81710706
>The Mask
The movie has nothing to do with the comic though, it can't really be considered an adaptation. It's its own creation.
As someone who has enjoyed pretty much every MCU film
It's still The Dark Knight
>b-but what about these non-capeshit movies
nope, still TDK
>>81706500
Watch it again, the CGI dates it really hard
>>81707854
Kickass would have been better if it had been as brutal and ugly with its characterization as the comic. Also the jetpack is just so fucking dumb.
>>81708406
this.
If you need explanation as to why you are retarded or you have not seen it.
>>81710938they aren't superheroes
>unironically not liking The Dark Knight Rises the best
>>81711172
TDK nailed everything except for Batman himself. Bale is great, the Batman he's given to work with is a wet rag.
Also, no fight choreography.
>>81701254
Of all the movies based on superhero comics, it's easily the best film, unless you count Judge Dredd as a superhero, in which case Dredd 3D is admittedly a better made film, though both are phenomenal.
As far as super hero movies go however, The Incredibles is currently the best ever made.
>>81711136
Still utilizes elements of the comic, while it's not an exact adaption it's still based on the comic book, it's not like it's completely bastardizes the original source material like Son of the Mask.
>>81701254
guardians of the galaxy or spiderman 2
>>81711284
10/10 taste but he's not a cape so it doesn't really count.
Still best comic adaptation, Dredd 2 when?
>>81711318
Wasn't the film actually developed alongside the comic as it's own unique entity?
Either way, it's not a superhero movie, though it's a great adaptation.
>>81711330
cheers m80
2000AD in general doesn't get enough love round /co/ so always post Dredd
>>81711284
Probably the most underrated movie I've ever seen, and that's including the cult praise it gets. Easily my favorite action movie, by a fucking mile.
You can skip around the movie, go to absolutely any frame, and it is fucking guaranteed to be absolutely flawless and perfectly composed. The movie is absolutely breathtaking visually, with some of the best sound design I've seen in a movie, certainly an action movie, to boot.
>>81710915
Well thats retarded and you are buying into company wars. It IS a superhero movie. Its a fucking Batman movie. It not having a shared universs doesnt make it not a superhero movie you idiot.
>>81711291
The fight choreography is the weakest part of that entire series to be honest. Even the first went downhill fast after he put on the suit. Better fights would make TDK the undisputed best Cape movie of all time.
>>81701254
The Rocketeer
>>81711076
My bad I read it as comic book movie
>>81701254
What do you mean "unironically"?
>>81701285
That is some seriously shitty b8.
>not The Dark Knight Rises
>>81701254
Subjective.
There is no correct answer even if you want to pretend putting "unironically" in front of it means there is one.
>>81704343
>BvS which is ahead of its time so it doesn't resonate properly with the audience.
Listen like it if you will but it is so silly to go 'well obviously the people who dont like what i like only dont like it because they dont understand it'.
>>81714002
Of course there isn't a correct answer, all art is subjective. The point of making this thread is for people to discuss what they think the best superhero movie is.
>>81714075
But how will he boost his ego then?
How else will he make himself feel smart?
Captain America 2 is pretty GOAT. TDK despite floundering at points still has some great acting an action. Shit fights, but the car chase with Joker, Dent and Batman is literally god tier.
Top five are
The Dark Knight
Pixar's The Incredibles
Iron Man 1
Raimi's Spiderman 2
Cap 2 WS
Dredd is not cape. And had the worst marketing ever.
>>81714432
>no The Dark Knight Rises
Shitty bait
>>81713905
for realsies
Honestly I gotta go with this.
I love MCU flicks for the most part, I love the nolan trilogy. I even dig a good few X-men movies. And i think films like Winter soldier and the dark knight are better films.
But when i think of the best 'superhero film'. As in the movie that works the best as a piece of superhero fiction rather than just as a movie, I just can't think of anything quite as up there as spider-man 2.
The struggle of the hero, the villain, the way Raimi films it in that unique and slightly abstract style, the action. It all just works so perfectly at bringing all that good spider-man shit to life.
Unbreakable, Dredd, Batman Begins, BvS, MoS or Spidey 2
>>81713063
>Rocketeer not on Netflix
Why jebus
>>81714651
nice bait faggot.
It's kind of a cheat because its both animated and technically two parts. But together this makes up I think the best non comic batman ever and the best super hero movie period.
>>81714828
nice bait faggot
>>81710356
This is probably the best answer. Not only is it an original property, it's pretty funny and has a solid plot.
>>81704343
i hated the dark knight. i may be in the minority, but it just wasn't fun.
>>81701254
Easily answered:
The Incredibles. Nothing else comes close.
Blade II was pretty fucking awesome though.
>>81716038
>original property
nope. newbie's never heard of flaming carrot comics...
It is unironically 2012 Dredd
>Be Karl Urban
>Get a bunch of really cool roles for series that you actually enjoy
>None of them make money due to bad advertising and shitty release dates
>Have a permanent stain on your record despite being a good actor
>>81711106
Animated series fags are the worst. Nostalgia goggles on so tight I'm fucking shocked they can see anything.
>>81711035
It's really well paced compared to the Donner movies, it isn't bogged down with origin stories, and it has a higher budget than Superman IV. It's a much better sequel than Superman Returns, it isn't really ridiculous and despite having a lot of slapstick comedy, it treats Superman's character and established movie setting with respect.
It also doesn't have Lex Luthor, who Donner set up as a known criminal with a very small power base in the first movie, and doesn't have the pointless destruction of Superman II or the heavy-handed message of Superman IV. It's the perfect Superman movie; you're getting a Lex stand-in who's competent but distinct, you get criminals who are criminals for different reasons rather than just being evil. It's great.
And ultimately it's a very comic book movie. It's not ashamed to be a goofy, kid-friendly thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9oI7Fd3UecTurkish Superman
>>81701254
I jus rewatched this Saturday night. After all these years and viewings, the only thing that sticks is ledger and his performance, obviously. Gotta say, Watchmen is still jus fun as all Hell to watch, even if the thought that goes into the story has faded.
>tl;dr Watchmen
>>81715005
>the best non comic batman ever
not sure if trolling or stupid, but that is a word for word, shot for shot adaptation of a comic by the same name. Still a damn fine work of animation.
>>81719346
Not trolling or stupid. I'm saying other than some of the stories in ACTUAL comics it is the best batman story we've got. Not that it isn't based or adapted from a comic.
Thought that was kinda obvoius desu.
>>81710693
Seriously? You think a movie is bad because its not accurate to muh shitty comics? The dark knight is a good film by itself without having to do with any retarded picture book character. "I only think a comic book movie is good if its just like the comics regardless of how retarded it is waaah"
>>81716849
Farewell, Mister Bronski.
>>81703395
Iron Man felt fresh - there weren't a million previous versions of the character, so it was a fresh superhero on film, the comedy was well done, the quips weren't out of hand yet, special effects were great, action was great, Tony Stark as a character was well done and RDJ was great in the role. It was dark when it needed to be, light and colorful when it needed to be. It's just solid Capeshit through and through. Tony Stark built it in a cave. With a box of scraps.
>>81701285
For your own good, I hope that is bait.
>>81701291
Thread should have ended right there.
WS, IM1, and GotG
Everyone posting on this thread is a DCuck.
>ctrl+f "Blade"
>multiple results
You are all my niggas
>>81701285
Shit quality b8, made me reply, but i only did it to tell you to loll yourself
>>81701285
Dude your taste is terrible. You have no right criticizing The Dark Knight
>picking anything that isn't The Dark Knight Rises
get this hotheads out of my board
>>81722086
On top of all that, his look worked really fucking well for a live-action adaption. Seems like we take it for granted now when discussing best costume adaptions.
>>81722423
I love GotG but if we're trying to decide which movie best encompasses the feel of a superhero movie, I don't know that I'd include it. Most of the time it felt more like a sci-fi adventure.
>>81701254
You posted it OP
Literally the film we deserve, but not the one we need right now
>>81701254
Easily. Makes MCU looks like dogshit.
>>81711236
Shoot! Forgot about the marketing: "Worst superheroes ever."
>>81708406
Camp garbage.
He spins the planet around in circles to go back in time. The movie is fucking retarded on many different levels, but the ending just sours the whole thing.
Also, Lois Lane is fucking grating in that movie. Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor is terrible, and Superman lacks any sense of his own nobility save the facade of it.
>>81729015
Well it's based off Silver Age supes. Reeves superman can also kiss someone to erase their memories, make clones of himself and all these other shit.
I think Reeves fanboys are split into people who actually watched it and view it as nostalgic. And the others are young fags who've never watched it.
Ang Lee Hulk
>>81729124
I saw it as a kid and didn't like it then.
I rewatched Superman and Superman II not long after Man of Steel came out and I realised how incredibly camp it was.
Maybe it's just me, but I feel the only way Superman really works as a character is if someone beats him up, and can (or does) kill him.
Otherwise I feel that he's this boring OP character and the drama of Clark's struggle is gone.
But that's just me.
>>81723362
That's because it is. Drop Peter calling himself Star-Lord and cut the Marvel Studios logo and nobody would know it's a cape movie.
Prove me wrong, you fucking faggots
That was easy
>>81701254
>>81714708
Wow this pic really brings me back.
I love how Peter watches the city from above in comics so as a kid I saw this visual and was just fascinated with the view. It looks really amazing.
Man I really loved Spider-Man 1 and 2.
has anything co related spawned more powerful and enduring memes than TDNR?
>>81730450
Yeah, CAD. We didn't even need /tv/ to force it for six months.
>>81729015
>He spins the planet around in circles to go back in time.
No, you pleb, he flies faster than the speed of light to go back in time. The planet spinning backwards is a visual representation of that.
>>81701254
>>81710965
>GotG
>shit
"no"
Superman 1/2
Spider-man 1/2
Nothing else comes close.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqI3a4vBpxU
>>81732683
>having such shit taste
literally kill yourself
Superman 2 The Donner Cut
special shout-out to X-Men 2 which is absolutely unbelievably well-written but sadly is visually hideous and lacks good action scenes.
>>81732745
>having such shit taste
literally kill yourself
>>81729931
>Maybe it's just me, but I feel the only way Superman really works as a character is if someone beats him up, and can (or does) kill him.
So like the second, third, and fourth movies in that series?
>>81701337
I was 25
the movie was too long but it was the first time the joker was done where it felt powerful and not just going through the motions, then again I was 6 when burton's batman came out and non-existent when the tv show came out so what do I know, I'm obviously too young to have an opinion
