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>shittiest character arc in Homestuck next to manlet 2.0
>was supposed to be a parody of a mary sue
>became a mary sue after post-retcon
>is guaranteed to permadie, because she bullied her pre-retcon version who died

What's the purpose of this character? To make us mad?
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She's a plot device for the retcon
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>>81693435
>what not to do with your character(s) 101

seriously a lesson can be learned here and i didnt even need to do shit to learn it
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>>81693435
>Karkat
>shitty character arc
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>>81693538
toby succeeded because he learned from hussie's fuckups.
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>>81694044
His arc was decent, but did go to shit post-cascade and especially post-retcon.
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>>81693435
If she was designed to make us mad then boy howdy is it working for me. I can't see her on screen any more without frowning.
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>>81693435
>best troll is best at trolling irl readers of the comic
whod have thunk it?
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>>81693435
How exactly is she a Mary Sue post-retcon? Sure in Hivebent she might have powerleveled and become THE B8ST at everything but by the time we get to the reunion, no one likes her, not the characters or the audience and she's pretty much useless. She hasn't played any part of the story or ending so far, other then hold onto the Juju.

She seems like a pretty thoroughly deconstructed Mary Sue to me, like Jade except rather then losing powers and relevance Vriska got brought back just so she could be shit on and have all her build up and plans amount to nothing.
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>>81694184
>by the time we get to the reunion, no one likes her,
No one dislikes her as much as they should, because she inexplicably "gets the job done", even though all the characters have been previously capable of all the things Vriska did in the Vriskagram. They had to suddenly become retarded for three whole years just to make her relevant.
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where were you when davekat was confirmed canon?
https://vine.co/v/iIaLbvbuEJZ
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>>81694230
I'm pretty sure they all know and acknowledge she's a psychopath but put up with it because they have better things to do. They only tolerate her out of apathy.

The only shitty part was Terezi because her entire arc was undone and she went back to being Vriska's Gurlcock-slave. What was the point of John writing "You don't need him" when later she'd go "Ablooabloo I NEED Vriska", it was kind of harrowing to see.
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>>81694230
Headcanon: trolls and humans become retarded when in proximity of eachother for long periods of time. That's why John, Jade, and Davesprite weren't ruined by the 3 years.
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>>81693435
>shittiest character arc in Homestuck next to manlet 2.0
what? She got three arcs, each with different lessons.
> was supposed to be a parody of a mary sue
what? are you reading some other comic like Hoemstick by Androw Hassie?
> became a mary sue after post-retcon
sure. but saying "after post-" tells me you aren't thinking clearly. it's too early to be this drunk, Anon.
> guaranteed to permadie
mmmmm no. But the last two updates are hinting that Vriska won't get a happy ending.
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>>81694289
Probably at home, like now, relaxing somewhere 3 years ago?
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>>81694293
Except John Jade and Davesprite were ruined during the three years.
>John became moody and threw tantrums so hard he passed out
>Davesprite became moody and suicidal or whatever
>Jade was all "muh is sad boyfriend that makes me sad :( "
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>>81694313
>Davesprite became moody and suicidal or whatever

Was Davesprite ever happy?
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>>81694313
Don't think so bro, they were always that way.
Now Davesprite merging with Nepeta, THAT kinda took a huge dump on his character, and pretty much ruined his Arc completely.

Remember how Hussie ranted about Super-Mario powerup stars and how shortcuts and tricks ruin someone's personal growth? Well getting merged a frivolous Catgirl just to cheer Davesprite up was a HUGE glowing star. He didn't have to overcome or do anything, whereas you look at Dave and Dirk actually talking it out and trying to solve their emotional dilemmas. It's just a really cheap and crappy way to ruin any investment.
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>>81694313
That's just regular puberty, not meteor induced autism
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>>81694425
It was like the white Tanuki suit
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>>81694329
When he merged with Nepeta because that's how character writing works obviously.

>>81694425
>Don't think so bro, they were always that way.
John could get temperamental but it wasn't his default setting, Jade didn't even have a boyfriend she just had hope for the future.

>Now Davesprite merging with Nepeta, THAT kinda took a huge dump on his character, and pretty much ruined his Arc completely.
What did you think his arc was? His arc was, "I'm less important because I'm not the alpha Dave what do I do with myself". The Nepeta thing, while cheap, doesn't actually ruin his arc, because it actually addresses it directly by making him cosmically aware of all of his selves and making him know they're all equally valid because something something something greater self something something something.
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>>81694446
There really isn't any difference besides, possibly, your personal preferences.
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>>81694290
This was addressed before Remem8er. She needed DA BOYS before the retcon, she needs Vriska post-retcon. Well, she has always needed Vriska. The thing is that she always needed somebody because she was incomplete, but that somebody was herself, and she did it when she was able to REMEMBER.

I expect that this will be developed if we get more dialogs. God I hope we do.
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>>81694498
"Remem8er" was so incoherent I can't believe it actually addresses anything, more like it possibly maybe sets up for stuff to get addressed later if Hussie feels like it.
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>>81694474
I mean sure that's great that he realized that, it fulfilled his arc and gave him the Courage to face Lord English. But still cheapened the arc because he didn't really struggle or earn it, he just kinda stumbled onto the realization that he wasn't useless via the Sprite^2's powers. I know that the pacing of these last hundred pages have been rushed and we're fasttracking towards the end but it was still kind of a sloppy cleanup for that thread.

But I suppose Davepta was mainly setup for the joke that was his reunion with AR. That's why we didn't get an entire setup segment like Dave and Dirk did.
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>>81693435
At least Vriska had an arc
Gamzee has always been pretty much the same
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>>81693435
>became a mary sue
I wouldn't say that, though she did magically fix everything by her sheer presence and that's pretty bullshit.

But yeah. Vriska is here for Hussie to experiment and troll his fanbase.
And since this is Hussie we're talking about he can't tell when he's taking a meme too far.
Nothing too surprising.
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>>81694514
The problem with the themes of the last Arc is, while repeated, they aren't pushed upfront and shoved thoroughly, we get them way too dispersed.

Davepeta's Lesson, Terezi's "Remem8er" Flash, Vriska's self-tirade, they're all part of the "Everyone's super important and plays a part even dead timeline dudes and other losers we don't get to see or hear from" spiel that insists the integrity of a character's persona is in multiple, and not confined to a single instance.

It just gets lost too easily in everything else he's trying to wrap up. Maybe he intended it that way as not to be heavy-handed, I don't know.
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>>81694521
>he didn't really struggle or earn it, he just kinda stumbled onto the realization that he wasn't useless via the Sprite^2's powers.
Yeah but in the end Davesprite is a relatively minor character so he's not going to get the same kind of focus as Dave or Dirk.
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>>81694313
remember when John was inconsolable because he found out fruit gushers were made by betty crocker?
remember when Davesprite got moody every time John implied he wasn't the real Dave?
remember when Jade...was asleep?
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>>81693435
Whats the point of homestuck?

Stop fucking reading it you gigantic faggot.
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>>81694425
I thought that was the point. Davesprite refused to grow for so long he got demoted to eternally content to die NPC
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>>81694568
>stop reading it right before it ends
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>>81694535
>tfw gamzee might never get an arc
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>>81694552
>I wouldn't say that, though she did magically fix everything by her sheer presence and that's pretty bullshit.
The only things she fixed were the plot drawls, cause the meteor crew were wieners and couldn't take out Jade and Jane as quickly as she did.

Everyone else just sort of stumbled ass backwards with their own personal problems.
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>>81694565
Remember when you read posts in the thread that says stuff like >>81694474
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He had the looks

He had the seahorse

He had the blood

He had the cape

But still those stuck up beaches didn't lovve him


Man I didn't know 4Chan was a thing when /hsg/ was a thing. Please anons, fill me up with as much cancer of the Truest a Gentletrolls that you can.
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>>81694564
>Yeah but in the end Davesprite is a relatively minor character

I'm sure that was also part of the intended effect.
Giving him too much attention or development would hinge away from the angst he has about being minor and underdevelopment. So he's given a rather Static Arc at best.
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>>81694576
>Multiversity.pdf
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>>81694568
There's literally 11 pages left.
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>>81694575
Can sprites "grow" ? they're game NPCs by nature. They're not protagonists because they can't be proactive.
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>>81694580
>The only things she fixed were the plot drawls
And stupid shit like everyone's personal problems. It's incredibly annoying that she's the one who stops Rose drinking. Kanaya already did that before the retcon, couldn't Hussie have just written the confrontation as happening at any point before the last possible minute to give her some sort of point?
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>>81694425
>Fusion is just a cheap tactic to make emotionally weak teenagers feel happier!
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>>81694591
What is this '/hsg/' you speak of
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So what about LE
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>>81694607
I think it's one of those challenges. If you struggle to grow despite becoming a sprite you get rewarded, if you give up, you stop mattering
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Do you think anyone will actually kill themselves on 4/13?
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>>81694614
>Vriska fixes Rose
>Keeps Gamzee in check
>Somehow fixes Terezi's insecurity problems
I think as dumb as that was, these overall weren't the "Biggest issues" in the story and reason they were Vriska'd was because we were fast tracking towards the end onto bigger and better things. So we could move towards a comic about defeating Cake Sea-Witches and saving ghosts from skull monsters, instead of more sensible arcs such as overcoming Alcoholism and whatnot.

Afterall wasn't Roxy forced to quit drinking by Circumstances too? The plot just moved them forward, often like how life does intervene.
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>>81694632
what about him?
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>>81694672
>I think as dumb as that was, these overall weren't the "Biggest issues" in the story
Then Hussie shouldn't have written them in there, or had them resolved during the meteor trip.

But no they had to be there so he could say the timeline gets ruined and then force Vriska to revamp everything.
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>>81694620
d'you happen to have a not-thumbnail version of that picture?
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hussie is a good writer who can craft clever dialogue and worked magic entertaining his fanbase for years, and eventually bit off more than he could chew after chewing like a horse on meth for years
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>>81694591
*grab2 you by the diick2* back the fuck off??!!
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I really hope he doesnt post act 7 at midnight again
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>>81694750
i hope he does so i can get shit drunk and cry
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>>81694719
What's Dipper supposed to be, a mage?
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>>81694690
The timeline didn't get ruined due to Rose's alcoholism or just Gamzee, it was a wide range of phenomenon that shit in the pot and those were the tip of the iceberg on the problems that doomed the session. All Vriska did was clean up some superficial clutter.

I really couldn't see her dealing with Aranea or )(ic fighting and rampaging through the session, hurling planets like in [S] Gameover. Nothing she did on the meteor could've helped that.
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>>81694750
I hope he does
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UPDATE
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I hate Ikimaru's art. It just looks so stiff for some reason.
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Update!
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>>81694767
>The timeline didn't get ruined due to Rose's alcoholism or just Gamzee, it was a wide range of phenomenon that shit in the pot and those were the tip of the iceberg on the problems that doomed the session. All Vriska did was clean up some superficial clutter.
If the clutter is superficial, then it shouldn't have been there in the first place, presented as non-superficial. Because I have no reason to think of it as "superficial clutter". It's JUST clutter, and no amount of retconning could clean it up, because it's always there, in the story, when you reread the story, you'll have to go through it, and watch it all get resolved in the laziest possible way.
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>>81694719
Here you go.
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>>81694777
>>81694790

weak. Everybody here knows when the up8 hits.
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>>81694795
What an obtuse way of thinking. SOME problems are marginal, some are major and some obviously are essential. There are clutters relating to the plot and storytelling overall, and those that are more sub-textual and there to tell a more enriching story, but don't hinder or depend upon it.

The Seers have deep-seated insecurities. Rose because of her mom, Terezi because of herself, ect. That's why that 'clutter' exists, it informs us about the characters, exists as an obstacle to their growth and serves as a minor hiccup in progress. To say "These problems are minor so they shouldn't exist altogether" is asinine and antithetical to Homestuck operates. They were introduced, bludgeoned and then done away with, like most things in life, there's no need to dwell on them at all.
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>>81694797
thank you
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>>81694624
>tfw I'll never really know
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>>81694726
Reading back over Act 6 in the last week or so, it doesn't actually get THAT bad, the story slows but once you get past the Alpha kid Segments it's smooth sailing.

The only reason it seemed so tenuous and drawn out is because it took us 3-4 years to slog through the end. It's like, 66% of the story's running time was used to tell the last third of the story.

If it was done as hastily as the earlier segments that fatigue wouldn't feel as pronounced. But it does read better archival rather than serially.
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did hsg at least like when tavros did the dance
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>>81694870
Shouldn't Gendo be Scratch?
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UPD8
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So here's a thought; We presume that the black hole that came out of Jack Engish's head is somehow linked to Earth, as it drew in most of LoTaK (containing Yaldabaoth), the Crowbar, and Gamzee. If so, what if Spades Slick returns later? He would also have been sucked in, and having survived the destruction of a universe, I don't see any reason why decapitation as a robot should be a reason to count him out.

Hell, he could use Caliborn's exile station later if he wants to show up in the alpha kid session.
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>>81694901
this was before doc scratch
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>>81694901
>tfw when Homestuck is the Evangelion of webcomics
Is 3rd Impact a form of the Scratch then? Are Angels just Denizens misplaced?
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you dont develop characters by plopping them all on a disc and having bad conversations. it leaves a shuddering sour taste, like meat from an animal I had never seen before was mixed into my meal.
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>>81694936
>Caliborn's SS was Spades Slick all along, having killed his doppelganger and taken his place
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>>81694949
You kinda do? By talking things out, how much simpler can you develop a character than that?
That was the Reunion anyway, something everyone forgets fans were waiting YEARS to see.
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>>81694885
This is what I thought when I reread in February.
On my first readthrough I though all the stuff post A6A5 was where it went bad. But really the first part of Act 6 is the worst bit (when it's just alpha kid and romance drama), and it picks up after that.

A6A6I5 is still pretty dull though, but the Vriska stuff is kind of dependant on how her story ends.
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>>81694907
Wrong time for updates, mate. Come back in 4 hours.
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>>81694850
>What an obtuse way of thinking.
Oh well fuck you too.

>The Seers have deep-seated insecurities. Rose because of her mom, Terezi because of herself, ect. That's why that 'clutter' exists, it informs us about the characters
The character study is worthless if you're not going to properly address the aspects of the characters that are brought up. "Oh they're insecure" well thanks for letting us know, but if you're going to just retcon those issues away, then so what? It undermines itself.

> They were introduced, bludgeoned and then done away with, like most things in life
This isn't life, it's a piece of fiction.
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>>81694972
I feel the Alpha session redux is by far the most obnoxious and unneeded part of the story. Why couldn't he have knocked out the entire session in one long segment like Hivebent? We didn't really need to see how they entered the medium or any of the slow dull introductions like we did. He could've even told them in a series of flashes like A6A4.

For that matter, we didn't really need to see any of the Gameover timeline. Just show [S] Gameover and John zapping in, some vague allusions, then cut to the other timeline that actually matters. It'd make things so much simpler to read through.
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>>81694964
We were expecting it, but we didn't expect it would be 60% shipping. There were great conversations that I loved, and while they still had shipping in them (they all had) it wasn't particularly prominente. But the rest was eeeeehhh.
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>>81695059
>Why couldn't he have knocked out the entire session in one long segment like Hivebent?
I think Huss overestimated how much time he needed to set up the cherubs via chats like he did the trolls, and to establish Betty Crocker as an actual villain on Earth
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>>81694579
He's gonna do the Whistles thing.
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>>81694936
>Spades Slick is rebuilt using Gamzee parts and spare robotics in Caliborn's lair
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>>81695031
Rose didn't "retcon" her insecurity away, the drinking was just an unfortunate side effect. She got over herself when she talked with Roxy and realized they both related to each other over drinking to their dead mums and don't need to compare and feel burdened by their parents anymore. That put a close on the sub Arc for her character and didn't need to be addressed anymore, because it served it's purpose.

>This isn't life, it's a piece of fiction.
>"We don't have character arcs Rose"
Not everything needs a hundred hours of introspection to wrap up, especially for stylized fictional characters. They're not, you know that right? Your entire notion of a symbolic character arc, coded through a cookie cutter narrative is inseparable from your notion that a naive vein of storytelling is the only way to go about things.

The characters are an end to themselves.
Not a means to something higher or another end, or an 'Arc' or whatever. Just them. This is like, Rose's entire pseudo-arc realizing this.

Basically what the hell do you want, Rose to go through a hundred pages of therapy session over her drinking and dead mother?
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>>81695137
>Rose didn't "retcon" her insecurity away, the drinking was just an unfortunate side effect.
It pretty much was. Rose had her insecurities, it had its effects, and then the retcon happened, so that all the effects were gone, and the insecurity can be safely wiped away by a single conversation that happens immediately after the retcon.

A character trait doesn't matter when its effects no longer exists.


>"We don't have character arcs Rose"
That's just a lame meta joke because obviously Dave doesn't know he's literally in a story. Anyone using this to excuse Hussie's poor character writing is just being as big a hack as he is.
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>>81695112
>The Whistles thing
Becoming>>81695131
a prostitute?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojPozIS5cPk
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>>81695183
Shit didn't mean to reply
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>>81695178
She got over her drinking. That's it. She never stopped thinking about her mother or anything.

If Vriska hadn't been there she might have had a harder time reconciling with Roxy, assuming she's still drunk, but that's it. There wouldn't be greater story implications. And it would've been cleared out at that either way.

Maybe you were really hungering to see an angsty Drunkd Rose-Roxy convo similar to Dave and Dirks? But that's not what happened and it's not crucial to the plot.

>Anyone using this to excuse Hussie's poor character writing is just being as big a hack as he is.
I'm guessing you're one of those who are going to whine because Rose won't "Play the Rain" or dictate their narrative lives based on BKEW-level classpect theorizing.
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>>81695059
These are things that could be fixed if Homestuck had been thought out in advance more.

I think it was just chance that Act 5 worked as well as it did. It could easily have been like Act 6.
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>>81695238
What's wrong BKEW anon
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>>81695271
I see what you mean. According to IPGD he had the End of Act 6 in the work for 3 years now, and apparently has had the ending in mind since the beginning. I think this is a drawback to planning your story non-linearly, he was trying so hard to set up for the ending he had in mind and it dragged on because he was still stumbling to set all the right pieces in place the exact way he wanted, rather then taking the time to let an idea flourish organically.
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>>81695321
BKEW is wrong because he sets his theorizes on a pedestal and thinks entire character acts and destinies can be determined by a chart about Classpects that he made up.
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all the trolls are terrible characters and the comic was a billion times better before act 5
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>>81695325
The ending planned from the beginning might just be something like 'everyone leaves through the door to the new universe', since 'it creates a universe' was basically the only thing about sburb planned from the start.

The ending written 3 years ago was probably everything post-gigapause.
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>>81695238
>She got over her drinking. That's it. She never stopped thinking about her mother or anything.

A character trait doesn't matter when its effects no longer exists.

You're lost if you don't get that simple concept.
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REMEMBER THIS.

DAD CROCKER WILL RECOGNIZE JOHN AS A MAN, NOT HIS SON. AND THAT JOHN'S FATHER WOULD BE VERY PROUD OF HIM.
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>>81694632
HE'S JUST ANOTHER POINT WHY EQUARA IS WORTHLESS ABUSIVE JOKE SHIP
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>John gets to reunite with his father
>Rose does not get to reunite with the Roxy that raised her
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>hussie forgot about Erisolsprite
>hussie forgot about DD and CD
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>>81695571
That isn't his dad. Technically that's John's son.
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>>81695580
Just like he forgot about the skeleton army right :^)
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>>81695508
Rose's alcoholism was never a "Character trait", it was a symptom of a greater problem, a trait of 'Mommy issues'. When she resolved it the earlier symptom was irrelevant.
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>>81695580
I don't think a single CD is still alive
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>>81695580
>hussie forgot about the second arquius and jaspers
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>>81695589
>Reunite with your son/half-brother/father

It doesn't matter whether dad was born from Jane or John, he is always dad.
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>>81695580
>Hussie forgot about Aranea
>And Mituna
>And Kurloz who was going to deliver the Cairo overcoat to LE
such is the life of a hack
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I feel incredibly guilty for asking this, but since Homestuck will end without ever acknowledging my otp's relationship ever again, would someone do me a favor, and draw Jade and Karkat in the Disciple and Signless's outfits? The dog tier ears should function as Jade's version of the Disciple's horns. I would like to ask for them holding hands and possibly blushing. A sketch is fine and much appreciated; if you decide to add color, the green on the Disciple outfit should change to match Jade's shade, and I would request delicious brown Jade. Finally, I would prefer if they were of equal height or if Jade were slightly taller.

Thank you to anyone who considers filling my last request, and I'm willing to write fic (sadly, no visual artistic talent) in exchange. Again, a sketch is fine; I'm not really expecting anything.
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>>81695620
Did the comic ever state whether Dad was even Nanna's biological son or if he was adopted?
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>>81695630
>holding hands
>blushing

grammar won't fool me, caliborn
get the fuck out
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>>81695644
It is never made explicit. I think it may be implied that he is adopted but I'm not 100% on that.
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>>81695458
but the trolls are introduced in act 4
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Posting this again because I am karezi trash.

But I would have taken Homestuck without the trolls. Like, just have made it last till Act 5 with Bec Noir as the final boss.
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>post yfw Jack has do the paperwork of can town as punishment
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>>81695723
I think I'd be less annoyed if it wasn't for Homestuck becoming this complete clusterfuck with Act 5 and 6.

If the trolls got their own seperate story, everythinf would probably make a lot more sense.
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>>81695723

>we will never get Bec Noir vs Rose, John, Dave and Jade

Christ. This whole comic is just an undending missed opportunity.
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>>81695772
Or perhaps if the trolls would have just switched into the A1 session and not travel to A2 at all.

But I think the existence of A2 is brought up too early for that.
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>>81695553
What if Jane's Dad shakes his hand and palms a dadly note?
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>>81695723
I'm one of those who got into Homestuck FOR the trolls and they were a pretty massive disappointment. I was hoping they were more like the Felt or Midnight crew shenanigans, basically being murderous sociopaths trying to outwit each other and causing chaos everywhere as antagonist.

Instead of turning out to be loud, romance obsessed wienies and crazies.
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>>81695768
>Everyone gets to be happy in the new timeline
Except your former moirail
Remember him karkat
You fuck
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>>81695838
>I'm one of those who got into Homestuck FOR the trolls
You got what you deserve tbqh.
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upd8 when
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>>81695850
Psychotic clown murderers get no sympathy, rightly so.
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>>81695862
3 to 6 hours
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>>81695711
>act 4
Weren't they first introduced in act 3?
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>>81695898
Wouldn't google be able to answer your question?
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I got into Homestuck at the end of 2013, shortly after the start of the Gigapause. It was already past its peak in terms of popularity I guess, but I figured it a good moment to read it and finally judge it for myself after treating it with indifference and contempt simply based on hearsay, seeing HSG and reports of an obnoxious fanbase till then.

Back then I thought that the next update would also be my last, according to Hussie. But nope. I got my serial reader experience and the Omegapause.
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>>81695711
>but the trolls are introduced in act 4
HI AGAIN IDIOT
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>>81694901
Considering his relationship with Rei who is Aradia, Gendo should be Equius
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>>81695922
I too did the same. It's kinda sad, knowing I missed most of the crazy stupid fandom shit.
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>>81695929
So Doc Scratch right?
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>>81695928
oh nooooooo
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Alright Homestuck Thread, it's time. Pick a character. Got one? Good.
Pick out a new Gender for them: http://nonbinary.org/wiki/Xenogender#Cosmicgender
http://nonbinary.org/wiki/Neurogender#Fascigender

Post back your results.
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>>81696006
how about no
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>>81695967
If you have Yui be the Handmaid then Doc. If you have her be alive!Aradia, then Equius.
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update
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UPD8
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UPDATEEEEE
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>>81696318
>>81696321
>>81696322
Oh shit you're serious
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>>81696318
>>81696321
>>81696322

Well, where is it?
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>>81696318
>>81696321
>>81696322
LIES
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So how long will act 7 be
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>>81696455
7 year long flash
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>>81696455
Two (2) pages
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>>81696455
As long as your dick, AKA very short.
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Leakerbro here

endgame shipping list

John/Roxy
Dave/Karkat
Rose/Kanaya
Vrisrezi red
Jake/Dirk
Jane gets fucked over
Jasprose/Davepeta
Jade/GCTavsprite

epilogue ships:
(Dave)/(Jade)
(Jane)/(Jake)
No Karezi, (Terezi) ships (Karkat) and (Vriska) together

Also Hussie will show several dreambubble ghost couples like an alternative Knight of Blood Karkat with a Feferi, referencing his twitter shitpost for declaring Karkat/Feferi as endgame. Oh, and our boy (Tavros) gets to win the pre-retcon Kanayabowl.
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>>81694895
Pretty much everybody had a positive reaction, IIRC. It doesn't seem to be on desustorage, but I can try and dig through my saved threads if you'd like.

>>81695713
It's just another recipe for the Warhammer of Zillyhoo you pooplord.
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>>81696487
>our boy (Tavros) gets to win the pre-retcon Kanayabowl.
come on can you at least try to make your lies believeable
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>>81696450
I almost checked, thanks anon for saving me from getting got
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>>81695112
whitsles thing?
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>>81696464
Never because he realized he was writing trash
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2 days
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>>81696487
>Jake/Dirk
>Jane gets fucked over
Fuck no, that goes against how the story went so far.
>Jasprose/Davepeta
Yeah, no, that's Incest.
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>>81696476
Fuck man why you make me feel bad i know my peepee is short and i cant do shit about it
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>>81696502
>Kanaya ends up with a boy
S O C I A L S U I C I D E
O
C
I
A
L

S
U
I
C
I
D
E
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>>81696512
from hussie's formspring
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These last few updates have been atrocious, I cant see myself ever again reading this comic unless Hussies about pull something insanely good.
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>>81696487
YOU'RE MISSING THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE AGAIN NEREVAR
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>>81696562
50% incest
25% bestiality
50% pedo
25% xeno
>>
A week or so ago, someone was linking the commentaries that Huss did for the books as a google doc. Does anyone have the Problem Sleuth commentaries or know if they are worth reading?
>>
>>
So, if papers hasn't seen Act 7(she said she needed to be sent a screenshot of it for reference for the lilypad scene) who drew it? She's done the thumbnails for basically everything.
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>>81695874
Gamzee only killed 2 people
Vriska killed way more than that
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I finished it.
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>>81696738
hussie
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>>81696738
>who drew it
Hussie
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>>81696757
*3
You forgot Pre-retcon Karkat
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>>81696766
DD looking particularly JOJO there
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>>81696601
oooh
thanks
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>>81696738
Most likely Hussie sent instructions to every participating artist that don't reveal the whole picture to the artist, like he did with EOA6.

That is if A7 is actually loaded with guest art.
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>>81696793
Still, Vriska killed way more than three
Somebody post the panel of her and the ghosts
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>>81696777
>>81696779
Yeah right.
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>>81696779
>>81696777
Wish your trips were for truth, but I doubt it. If we get any more Hussie art in the comic it will probably only a be for a problem slueth style page at the end.
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>>81696644
And One Hundred Percent Reason To Remember The Name
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>>81696766
Damn, that's pretty cool. Great job with the poses and colors!
Droog's pink tie is a nice touch, and so are Boxcars's red clothes.
>>
Post crackships or your fav OTPs that will never happen. I blame Nepeta for making me give a shit about shipping and cuckolding me for 6 years. Yeah, I am Vriskat trash.

I cant wait for Homestuck to be finally over.
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>>81696834
The issue if those 3 people were friends of the cast, Vriska's victims were just random Flarpers. She's still a monster, don't get me wrong but in this instance the clown gets off worse.
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>>81696874
Gamzee X Whistles
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>>81696874
Neprezi
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>>81696681
>oh this is so cute-
>fucking hell

>>81696757
so did terezi, and eridan, and sollux assuming him using baby gubs to power his computer was bad for them (or at least abusive)

murder is a norm there, its acually culture
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>>81696818
I think it'll probably be a game, or something else interactive. ipgd seemed to imply it was something different, at least. 'you'll shit your pants' isn't exactly the reaction to a regular flash.
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>>81696874
Tavrosprite/Happiness
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>>81696919
It could also just be hyperbole. She admitted to shilling. Which I argue HS has no need but whatever.

Oh, what a surprise, she is tweeting about how davekat is endgame canon and how johnkat and johndave sucks.

I have a feeling it might be facetious.
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>>81696874
always and 5ever
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"HS is supposedly a story that is also a game. In games, the characters die all the time. How many times did you let Mario fall in the pit before he saved the princess? Who weeps for these Marios. In games your characters die, but you keep trying and trying and rebooting and resetting until finally they make it. When you play a game this process is all very impersonal. Once you finally win, when all is said and done those deaths didn’t “count”, only the linear path of the final victorious version of the character is considered “real”. Mario never actually died, did he? Except the omniscient player knows better. HS seems to combine all the meaningless deaths of a trial-and-error game journey with the way death is treated dramatically in other media, where unlike our oblivious Mario, the characters are aware and afraid of the many deaths they must experience before finally winning the game."

What did Hussie mean by this?
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>>81696874
rose/mituna
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>>81696990
It means that Hussie declared post-retcon Karkat and Vriska as shitty characters.
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>>81696990
fuck off
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>>81697043
So Karkat IS aware about (Terezi)'s changes.
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>>81696990
He means he likes to kill off his characters and replace them with near-identical clones, and that we aren't actually supposed to care about them.
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One problem with the "villain" trolls was that I didn't really see them as these really REALLY evil people. Both Gamzee and Eridan just seemed manipulated. Even Eridan didn't really FEEL like Hitler reborn who wishes to kill all landwellers and when he was, it just felt like a joke. The tone is too silly and ligh hearted in places, we got Rose talking to Gamzee after he killed people and took their bodies and while he seemed crazy, I didn't really get the feeling that "oh damn this dude is evil, he wishes that everyone would just die and doesnt even regret killing his friends at all!". He just seemed tired and I could easily see him being sorry if confronted. Equius getting strangled just felt like he was, like, killed. Instead of this disgustisting asphyxiation fetish creep death Hussie kept talking about. The only one I really hated for doing what they did was Vriska because she acted rude, was an asshole and a bully. I didn't see Gamzee laughing about fooling everyone and shit talking karkat for trusting him and being pathetic failure so I just got the vibe he wasn't in his right mind.
>>
Are people unironically believing there will be Homestuck 2.0?
>>
Would you read a Homestuck Remastered?
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>>81697097
Yes
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>>81697097
No
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>>81696921
You fucking deviant
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>>81696919
I shitted my pants for EOA6 though
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>>81696990
He's trying to compare the deep Mario lore to Homestuck's.
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>>81697097
maybe
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>>81697095
>Villains are only villains if they're mean and subscribe to a very strict set of guidelines
>They aren't evil unless they're "mwahaha"ing like jackasses and acting like a Disney evildoer
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>>81697103
sure
>>
What happened to Feferi and Eridan's bodies
They were never prototyped so they stayed in the fridge
But in Collide they're gone and only Gamzee is in there
Did he eat them or something
Hussie you hack
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>>81697103
No, you should never have read the original in the first place
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>>81696681
this is by that vodkamutini artist we were bashing a few months ago.

with the degredation of her art.
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>>81697173
They were never put in the fridge in the first place, jackass
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>>81697097
I dont know, can you repeat the question
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>>81697103
No
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>>81697097
Dante confirmed it
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>>81697097
Dante Basco is trying his hardest to get a Homestuck flick made.

Why he's wasting his time with this shit, I don't know.
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>Karkatfags are not satisfied
>Vriskafags are not satisfied, despite Terezi sucking their character's dick
And (Tavros) still got the better arc.

Justice.
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>>81695774
I miss fitz
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>>81697103
Yes, definitely. But not like this. >>81697097
Not like this.
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>>81697247
>becomes independent and then a weak contrarian idiot

Yeah, sure.
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>>81697233
bacause he has nothing going on right now
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>Suddenly, Slick comes into the timeline via pulling his pin out of the voodoo doll from an alternate timeline
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predict hussies next series plot
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>>81697193
Yeah they were, that's why someone mentions opening it so they can prototype Fef to revive her since they had a free sprite. Or maybe that was Nep, I dunno
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>>81697097
I'd watch a Homestuck film.
I would prefer it to be a loose adaptation though. As it is the story wouldn't really work in anything other than the mspa format.
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>>81697300
die had the doll during a timespace jump in collide, and we don't see the doll end up with caliborn and gamzee like the crowbar did, so maybe die has the midnight crew pins too.
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>>81695774
>tfw no SBURB on PC
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>>81697163
That's some thought provoking shit right there.
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>>81697302
>You continue to be one of the best Problem Sleuths in the city.
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>>81697313
But if there was a movie he'd have to do some new meta shit. Like having a guy dressed up a John just doing whatever shit in the theater at certain parts of the movie
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>>81697097
Dante Basco does, at the very least. Maybe it was just an idea of his, who knows.

>>81697103
Only if it's completed. Otherwise there's no way I'm getting on this ride again.

>>81697247
>There are people who think (Tavros)'s arc didn't matter because he let Meenah have her fun and do the one thing he didn't like
His arc's payoff wasn't as big as it could have been, but it was still nice - better than literally every other troll's, for sure.
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>>81697355
>better than literally every other troll's, for sure.
Terezi still exists
>>
>>81697303
that was nep, which became nepetasprite, then shoke hands with davesprite
>>
im the only one who thinks that midnight crew was better than homestuck?
>>
A Homestuck film would be a commercial failure
Normalfags would watch like twenty minutes of John fucking around his house before they would lose intrest
I doubt they would even understand the time bullshit of The Felt
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>>81697395
You mean Problem Sleuth right?
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>>81697313
thered be too much dialogue and the story would be all over the place cramming as much as it could into one movie just like batman v superman all over again and itd be like 3 hours long
no thanks
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>>81697354
>Like having a guy dressed up a John just doing whatever shit in the theater at certain parts of the movie
And they won't even have to hire anybody to do that at the première.
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>>81697399
people often like shit they dont get
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>>81697313
show? perhaps
movie? highly unlikely
>>
>>81697399
imagine donnie darko except funny.

that would be homestuck. overrated, normalfags pretend to understand it, but it has a cult following anyway.
>>
>Lord english gets final blow by living spades slick's cyborg head that was flying around at this moment
calling it
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>>81697399
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>>81697492
STOP SEXUALIZING THE DOG GIRL YOU SICK FUCK
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>>81697515
But the dog girl is widely agreed both in comic and out of comic to be for sexual
>>
>>81697399
I dunno about that man. Watching a kid fuck around in his house can be entertaining. Like the Home Alone movies.
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>>81697515
Breeding
duties
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>>81697515
that's all that she's good for though
>>
>>81697515
dog girl is made to be sexualised
>>
>>81697515
>not screwing the pooch
>not fucking the dog
>not banging the hound
>not making love to the puppy
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>>81697541
Jade's cute, cute nose.
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>>81697515
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>>81697567
Jade's cute everything
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>>81697566
puppy love
>>
I wonder if Hussie is going to show us whatever creature populates the new universe? I mean I'd love it if there were proper monstrosities that were just grotesque.
>>
HUG THE PUP
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>>81697377
>Post-retcon Terezi
>Must kill Vriska to save her friends
>John poofs in and knocks her out
>Problem solved!
>Never questions her identity and beliefs
>Vriska sticks cloun in a fridge
>Problem solved!
>Angsts over almost having killed Vriska for three years
>Becomes her yes-man
>Agrees with Vriska about her dead friends not being worth bringing back
>Still sad and mopey
>Magic powers let her remember her alternate self's character development
>Problem solved!

You mean (Terezi) right?
You need an actual arc for your character development to pay off.
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>>81697492
Good dog
Best girlfriend
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>>81697603
MUG THE PUP
>>
I can hate her but that doesn't mean I don't want Vriska to bone me
>>
>>81697599
Isn't it guaranteed to have one bipedal race with two sexes/genders?
>>
>>81697604
>It doesn't count if I say it doesn't count
lol
>>
VRIS

IS

PISS
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>>81697623
FUG THE PUP
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>>81697666
Thanks DMK
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>>81697603
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>>81697666
KISS
THE
VRIS
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>>81697666
dont h8, m8
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>>81697413
That's why I said loose adaptation. In an ideal world a Homestuck adaptation would have a completely different plot entirely. You could cut a lot and still have a good story. Basically everything about the trolls, other than 'they already finished the game and hate the kids but become friends with them' can go, classpects being anything than just powers can go, everything after Act 5 can go, you get the picture.
>>
>>81697603
FUG THE PUP
>>
>Homestuck
>directed by Zack Snyder
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>>81697646
Which hole though
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>>81697604
>Magic powers let her remember her alternate self's character development
>Problem solved!
What's wrong with that? John and Roxy also used retcon magic powers to join the alpha timeline.

But I agree if "Remem8er Me" and Vriskagram are just set-ups for Terezi and Vriska becoming a redrom couple and abandoning their paleship. Fuck that shit.
>>
>>81697708
>Zack Snyder
who
>>
>>81697708
>A young man stands in his bedroom
>He didn't choose his life
>He didn't choose his name
>And now billions are going to die
>>
>>81697708
Well, Snyder-loving retards defend BvS, so they'll love and defend anything
>>
>>81697659
I'm not sure about that, I think the Horrorterror's original forms probably weren't bipedal
>>
Honk Friend a best
Redemption when
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>>81697603
>>81697623
>>81697666
>>81697679
>>81697683
>>81697704
SHUT THE FUCK UP, KARKAT
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>>81697748
kek
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> villain who killed countless innocents, murdered mom, dad and bro, destroyed the troll session and decapitated AR

>gets a happy ending because IT'S SO CUTE LOL

Can't wait to see the rest of this satisfying ending!
>>
>>81697721
>Remem8er

What exactly did she remember though?
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>>81697515
Things cute be cute and sexual you know
>>
>>81697807
The GO timeline for no real reason
>>
>>81697807
What clown degradation tasted like
>>
>>81697807
EVERYTHING
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>>81697783
>TFW remembering that JUSTICE speech AR gave through DAVE
>>
>>81697826
>for no real reason
Think long and hard about how fucking retarded you are
>>
>>81697821
Now that's a Jade I could get behind
>>
What was even the point of [S] Terezi: Remem8er? She seemed exactly the fucking same after it and she's still being a grouch on the lilypad. Was there even a point?
>>
>>81697861
lesbian wank
>>
>>81697826
>>81697831
>>81697836
You are all wrong.

She only remembered her childhood with Vriska.
>>
>>81697861
No, it was literally the most pointless flash in the entirety of Homestuck.
>>
>>81697861
It's to set up the gay singularity.

Terezi fell in love with Vriska.
>>
>>81697783
>Jack Noir is redeemed
>Gamzee only killed 3 people and is somehow the worst ever
>Caliborn only killed his sister and somehow he's the worst person ever
Hussie logic everyone
>>
Why did it die?
>>
>>81697721
>>81697861
>>81697895

>Redrom Scourge
That would require things to be mutual, and I'm not sure about Vriska here.

Like, Remem8er partly felt like Terezi saw versions of Vriska ((Vriska) perhaps and her pre retcon version meeting in the bubbles) that actually learned something and didn't remain an egotistical twat.

But mostly I found it weird how she entirely focused on Vriska apparently when the implication was that (Terezi) gave John the instructions partially due to Karkat and everyone else dying.


Was (Vriska) and (Terezi) meeting to be pale or redrom? Or was it kept ambigious again because FAUNTLEROY.
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>>81697907
NEVER
HOMOS GO HOME
>>
>>81697831
>try to remember your character development
>get the feeling of having let a dogshit clown use you as a sexual plaything for years instead
>>
>>81697860
It is a very cute Jade
The kind of Jade you want to settle down with and marry
>>
>>81697912
>I'm not sure about Vriska here
Anon. Vriska would gladly be in redrom with Terezi, because she is jealous as fuck for seeing Rosemary and Karkat getting dicked by Dave.
>>
>>81697907
because it never lived
>>
>Be Vriska
>Be horrible your entire life.
>Every plan you've ever made results in the deaths of your friends and other random innocents.
>Stuck on a meteor indefinitely.
>Come up with a plan to beat Jack Noir.
>itkillseveryone.jpg
>Your friend kills you to stop this from happening.
>Finally find some peace and love in death.
>Girlfriend breaks up with you, you become whiny and inconsolable to show the audience "this isn't what you really want"
>retcon.gif
>All character development undone, you're right back to being horrible to everyone and making terrible plans.

what the fuck
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>>81697860
That's a Jade whose behind was got.
>>
>>81697904
Hussie probably thinks that misogyny is worse than murder.
>>
>>81697907
are you talking about why'd it died in the comic or out of the comic

it was never a thing in the comic just a non-incest pairing for them

out of comic kanaya shippers won and john/roxy was superior as soon as the two of them interacted once
>>
>>81697940
But if she does it out of jealousy that others have one that it isn't actual redrom and doomed to fail as soon as Terezi realizes how empty it is.
>>
I kinda want to make a (not shitty) Problem Sleuth fangame.

I'm not sure why no one's done that yet.
>>
>gay singularity
>it actually refers to a colorful "gay" singularity due to cherub shenanigans that unites every version of a character ever
>>
Oh shit do you think were ever going to get an explanation for Gamzee's godtier
>>
>>81695589
Well still hyped for John meeting someone that looks like his dad but is actually his grandmom/mom's dad who is his son. And since he made his mom and hilmself with ectobiology, arguably his grandson too.

I've come to terms with how messed up this family tree is a long time ago, but it still gets me whenever I take the time to think about it. Oh well, it'll be good stuff for the new universe's creation myth. John's going to be like an ancient greek/norse/egyptian god in those stories.
>>
>>81697983
He doesn't, but he thinks the people he tried to pander to do.
>>
>>81698006
Problem Sleuth was both a comic AND a game, you missed out hard m8
>>
>>81698047
It's fake. Kurloz made it. We were given this explanation ages ago.
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>>81697983
his old comics say otherwise
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>>81698047
He's not a god tier
The outfit is fake.
Still I have to wonder why getting the outfit was so important. It's not like he was fooling anyone
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>>81698054
He's right. Teenage girls would rather be killed than given less pay.
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>>81698047
We got one. You don't have to remember though, that's a state of reality I can come to accept.
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>>81698047
he's not a god tier
he made the costume for some retarded reason
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I wonder what music we'll have for Act 7.
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>>81698078
>>81698092
he wore the outfit as a joke
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>>81697904
>>Caliborn only killed his sister and somehow he's the worst person ever
Caliborn killed Multi Billion of people in various universes.
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>>81697163
>the living mario is a clone.
This was done so well.
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>>81698106
was some good bantz, gamzee redeemed
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>>81697320
As far as we know, snowman's pin was the only one left in.

What would happen to the green sun if it was removed?
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>>81698106
still retarded as fuck
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>>81698107
Show, don't tell.

We don't give a fuck about LE killing people because he still hasn't killed anyone that matters, and the comic is about to end. You think I want him dead because he called Jane fat?
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>>81697163
I always felt bad when I did that to my marios. Killed off the original, I mean.

Though that seems to be literally what happens with god tiering in Homestuck.
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>>81697907
how could it die if it never lived?
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Of the incest ships, JohnJade is the cuter one.
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>>81698205
the only decent incest ship is rose/dave famslam
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UPDOG
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>>81698205
this is true.
>>
>forgets to write a character
>IT'S BECAUSE OF YOUR ASPECT

> makes fun of shoehorned beterosexual couples
> the one with the most focus is hetero

>rants about character development powerups
>brings a character back from the dead to solve characters issues offscreen

COOL """"""""writing""""""
>>
Reminder that Hussie hates Jane more than any other character in Homestuck.
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>>81697907
Truly the most vanilla ship.

Just behind John and Dave.
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>>81693435
Please don't compare Karkat with her.

Thanks.
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>>81698231
>the one with the most focus is hetero
?
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>>81698226
Can you explain the meaning of updog to me?
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>>81698226
no
rapedog
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>>81698231
>>forgets to write a character
>>IT'S BECAUSE OF YOUR ASPECT
We really should have seen the space/lonliness parallel fucking ages ago. kanaya and jade were swimming with it, then calliope outright says that her existence is the loneliest to roxy.
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>tfw I have a stable job and Responsibilities now
>tfw I won't be at ground zero when the update hits due to work
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>>81698226
I...don't know what that means, anon.
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>>81698258
john roxy

leaders, romance is integral to Roxy's character, rings of life and void
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>>81698266
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>>81698273
What about Porrim
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So that was a long video where not very much happened.

All of those conflicts were largely unimportant. Like, what did dogjack and doglady even want, aside from fighting each other for some reason? What did the other alternate jack/slick want? They seemed content to fight each other. I like I guess you sort of set these characters up as villains but their stories didn't really involve any of the kids anymore, same with the midnight crew. Like, why were they even deployed?
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>>81698266
Even grimbark it was better than davekat
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>>81698262
>>81698286
nothing much, what about you?
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>>81698299
she just has a spacious pussy
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>>81698299
toxic feminist that nobody wants to be around I guess
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>>81698300
>Like, what did dogjack and doglady even want, aside from fighting each other for some reason?
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>>81698300
>>81698300
>what did dogjack and doglady even want, aside from fighting each other for some reason
She wanted revenge
he wanted to kill stuff

>What did the other alternate jack/slick want
kill LE
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>>81698273
>kanaya
She's legitimately one of the only characters with a steady relationship.
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>>81698299
She's the biggest slut and mothers EVERYONE, of course she's lonely.
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>>81698339
also part of the rarest caste raised far from civilization
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>>81698328

Well what? Why was Jade trying to stop them? Why were they even a factor in the kid's plans?

"Remember those dog guys who murdered us a whole bunch back in act 2-3?"

"Oh right"

"Should we do something about them? They don't seem to care about us at all now"

"Nah just leave them alone"

"Ok"
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>>81698339
she also lived in a fucking desert
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>>81697873
>She only remembered her childhood with Vriska.

Uh no
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>>81698336
>>What did the other alternate jack/slick want
>kill LE

So... why not let them? Why engage them?

Maybe it's because i've been reading this for years and dont plan on doing a re-read, but I just dont really get what anyone wants anymore aside from "kill bad guy, go home"
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>>81697904
>caliborn grows up to be lord English who enslaves people turns them into monsters and makes them spread such misery to everyone
>he also hijack the concept of time travel so that if its not use to benefit him everyone dies
>b-but as a kid he only murdered his sister and 15 planets , and would personally try kill anyone he meets unless its to much work, also made a person cut out his own eyes so he can kill 4 of the 7 people he's ever interacted with.(the other three by the way he also attempts to murder)

But hey he IS sexist and that IS what the first character we met got mad at his for so lets just say that's his only crime
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>>81698356
Remember the card that said she had to deal with two dogs?
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>>81697904
It's all in the attitude. Jack Noir's likable across all sessions despite being a nasty little stab man and Gamzee's a nasty deceptive asshole. He failed here with Caliborn because despite Calliope being my personal favorite character I still don't want to see Caliborn dead because he's hilarious and wonderful.
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>>81698328
fuck off grinchposter
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>>81698385
>caliborn grows up to be lord English

except that won't happen because epic twist lol
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>>81697907
distracted by mom's hot ass
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>>81698293
it was literally introduced in the last act how is it getting the most attention
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>>81698386

Yeah, I just assumed one of her friends left that. It still didn't really explain why, unless it's a deliberate mystery, which I guess it may be.
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>>81697783
Don't forget Vriska "I'm a complete jerk, but everyone is depressed and I get plot stuff done, so I'll never face any consequences" Serket.

>>81697861
Hussie telling us he didn't forget the GO characters he killed off and replaced without a second thought. Also Scourge feels bullshit.
So, mostly pandering. (God do I hate that word, but here it seems awfully appropriate.)
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>>81698446
It's amazing how many parallels sbahj have with Dave and John.
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>>81698415
if that's the case then the first complaint is moot and despite being a a shitbird his only comeuppance is john beating him up
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>>81698478
Post retcon scourge is nonsense.

Pre retcon pale scourge in the dreambubbles is alright though. I guess it's pale?
>>
What happens to cloun when he gets sliced in two? Why is cloun immortal
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>>81698535
memes
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>>81698535
braindead double clown
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>>81698526
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>>81698526
>post retcon scourge is nonsense
Why? Would rather want them to be red for """gay singularity"""? Because that's what Hussie is going to do.
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>>81698165
man darth vader sure is only a villain because of because he killed obii-wan and definitely not because he blew up a populated planet
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>>81698391

this desu senpai

Like, yeah, he's a genocidal (pluricidal?) maniac who is a huge asshole, but damn he's entertaining. Reminds me of Xykon.
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>>81698535
Two clowns

I was peeved after GAME OVER came out and everyone seemed convinced Gamzee was dead because why the fuck would Gamzee ever be dead unless if completely destroyed to the last molecule or if there's some cloun-magic parallel to Crowbar's crowbar, but I guess it doesn't matter now anyway.
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>>81698562
Okay.

>>81698573
I think it's generally (pale OR red) nonsense because Vriska doesn't really feel committed to the relationship in the sense that she doesn't treat TZ as an equal pale partner.

TZ being a yesman towards her doesn't help.
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>>81697097
Oh even if there wasn't before Hussie will not turn down a chance to work with his Husbando Dante
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>TZ will never get a character beyond "wants to fuck (insert yearly new character here)"
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>>81698678
>>
Two days left, ladies and gents

I'll miss all you shitposters and assholes when it's over <3
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>>81698205
John/Jade is vanilla incest.
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>>81698605
That was Tarkin who did that.

Anakin killed a bunch of younglings, however.
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>>81697103
I'm with >>81697355 on this
>>
UPDATE
>>
Where the hell's my update. If it isn't out in 15 minutes this will be the latest update since the pause, right?
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>>81698745
This is early for an update, they usually have been coming out 2 hours from now
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>>81698694
>Act 6
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>>81698745
We've had updates as late as four hours from now.
>>
>Space is about loneliness.
>By the way, it's also about procreating and having lots of children.
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>>81698770
>>81698782
I have lost track of my life the past week.
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>>81698797
it's DUALITY
what's the matter? 2deep4you?
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>>81698613
I'm sure that Hussie won't forget to show Gamzee and whatever happens to him
He showed him like three times in Collide. He wants us to remember he's there
>>
Today is the LAST update before the END OF HOMESTUCK.

How do you feel? I'm anxious as fuck.
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>>81698694
There was an interesting fic I read during Act 5 like that except it was John and for some reason he pissed in Feferi's mouth despite piss never coming into play before that. Fun times.
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>>81698797
>knights protect things
>btw these characters can't protect shit

yeah that's the point nimrod
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>>81698797
>Space is about loneliness

>Kanaya spends every waking hour fucking Rose
>Everyone loves Calliope

>Jade actually is lonely
Being Jade is suffering
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>>81698694
>Terezi's insightful character arc
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>>81698816
NOT YET
THERE'S ONE ON THE 12TH
PREPARE YOURSELF FUCKER
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>>81698811
Shouldn't that be Doom?
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>>81698816
2nd last
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>>81698816
Does Act 7 not count as Homestuck now?
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>>81698820
>fandom shit
>it's proven wrong by canon

WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THE POINT OF MY FANFICTIONS?
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>>81698865
>fandom shit

dave couldn't protect anything until dirk, karkat fucked up everything, latula couldn't protect mituna
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>>81698842
Judging by their links, it seems that two update batches were merged together into a single update, so the only updates before Act 7 is the one tagged as "johndad". I think that instead of getting a regular update tomorrow, we'll Act 7 a few hours later at 4/13 0:00h.

>>81698848
It counts as Hiveswap.
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>daily reminder that we'll never see wizard cronus
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>[S] Flip
>Vriska really really wants to fly away and fight Bec Noir
>She's been planning to since the beginning
>Every single step of her plan led up to this
>Terezi warns her, she doesn't listen
>In an alternate timeline Terezi let her go and they all died
>Terezi has to kill her
>Retcon happens
>John punches Vriska, knocks her out
>Vriska doesn't try to go for Bec Noir a second time the moment no one is looking
She didn't believe Terezi when she told her she'd bring Bec Noir to the meteor. Why would she give up on the plan she's been carefully bringing to completion?
Keep in mind this is "Everyone but me is a loser, only I know what's best for everyone" Serket we're talking about.
So, again: What the fuck?
>>
How many pages will Act 7 be?
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>>81698901
Geez, maybe that means that knights were never supposed to protect and that, instead, they weaponize their aspect just like it was outright stated in canon? Could it be that knights being protectors is just fandom shit?
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>>81698956
>13th of April 1994
>even calendar says November
Bruh
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>>81699010
1025
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UPDATE
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UPDATE
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>>81699018
every class weaponizes their aspect you genius
>>
Thief of Light steals the spotlight
Knight of Blood is the visualization of Dave fucking a boy's anus bloody
Thief of Life makes you realize you wasted 7 years for this shitty comic
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>>81699010
Two, according to ipgd.
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>>81698990
Good, it looks like the amount of cruft we got really did decrease how much of the main characters we were gonna get, via attrition on Hussie.
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>>81699023
She's a November enthusiast but it's actually April.
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>>81699045
What is going to happen in them?

My guess is davekat
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>>81699098
its just davekat
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>>81699076
>tfw Kankri was probably indirectly responsible for the no-writing last reunion
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>>81699098
Lord English's death and a look at what all the kids and the trolls are doing now
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>>81694719
Is there other pics like these ones around?
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>>81699038
Not really dude
Heirs turn into their aspect
Seers see into her aspect
Witches idk
Rogues steal from their aspect
Princes kinda do weaponize their aspect but use it only to destroy I guess, not really
Pagues are useless and when they're not they release their aspect like it was Hiroshima and they were an atom bomb baby
Maids are hot idk
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>>81695742
>>81695746
you lil' shit
>>
>12/04/2016, 23:54
>Everyone's waiting with great anticipation for the last update of Homestuck and Act 7
>People are literally counting seconds to midnight
>suddenly, it's 13/04/2016 0:00
>everyone F5ing like mad
>Suddenly, "ACT 7 ====>" appears at the bottom of the page
>With your heart in your throat, your head feels light, barely managing to keep your eyes dry as you're about to end this wild ride, you click on the blue link
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/Hiveswap/
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>>81699151
>knight of hope
goddamnit that's supposed to be mine
>>
>>81699164
>Heirs turn into their aspect
I thought their main thing was inheritance of their aspect. like, how does somebody turn into time/doom/space etc.

I thought that was just a breath specific power.
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>>81695742
Pretty bad art. I don't get why she's so famous. I'm glad we haven't gotten any piece of art from her after Remem8er, and I hope it stays that way.
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>>81699193
there's no knights in that picture
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>>81699193
I thought that was a mage of hope. First assumed it was maid but the hood is wrong
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>>81699213
>being a fan art snob
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>>81699193
That's a maid tho
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>>81697526
>In the comic
where?
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>>81699213
I really hate her too, style is so fucking bland and flat.
>>
Will Gamzee have a Whistles situation where he rebels against LE?
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>>81699193
Aren't they:
Maid of Hope
Seer of Time
Page of Heart
Rogue of Void
?
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>>81699196
I believe that as well that heirs don't have to do anything but wait and get there power
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>>81699231
>>81699242
>>81699247
man that looked like a cape
now i'm the big dumbass
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>>81697783
>>81697841
They better fucking throw him in the slammer
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>>81699098
>still thinks Davekat is happening

Davekat was a brief nightmare that happened a year ago.
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>final battle against LE begins
>nearly everybody dies horribly
>record scratch, song stops
>new song begins
>I HATE A MORAL COWARD, ONE WHO LACKS A MANLY SPARK
>I JUST DETEST A MAN AFRAID TO GO HOME IN THE DARK
>I ALWAYS SPEND MY EVENING WHERE THERE'S WOMEN, WINE AND SONG
>BUT LIKE A MAN I ALWAYS BRING MY LITTLE WIFE ALONG!

>The Midnight Crew appear out of nowhere
How hype would you be
>>
>>81699246
I'm not a fan art snob, but when that fan art I dislike makes its way to the comic itself just because it's inexplicably popular it's pretty jarring.
>>
>>81699196
Well you could say Equius and Mituna turn into a void and doom in an abstract way, Eq was invisible to an omnipotent being and Captor (And I'm just going headcanon here) arc was to become doom, his ultimate goal was to burn himself protecting his friends
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>>81699151
Does Hussie watch SU then?
>>
>>81699292
Thank God no one asked you for your hot opinions then.
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>>81699286
That ranks right above "everyone dies except Vriska and Gamzee" at the very bottom of the list of possible endings.
>>
>>81699286
>Midnight Crew + Felt combo
I want that so bad
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>>81699286
>How hype would you be
Beyond a reasonable amount.
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>>81699339
anything's possible if you believe
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>>81699151
>>81699262
Those are really good god tier choices thinking about it, I mean Page of Heart is literally perfect for Steven, Seer of Time is accurate as hell too but I'm not sure about Maid of Hope, what does a Maid even do again?
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>>81699282
>so uncanon even artists with absolute freedom can barely bring themselves to make it even acknowledged
>>
>>81699331
It's like you've never shared your opinion on 4chan about anything, what a pure anon you are!
You're starting to sound like an assblasted fangirl at this point.
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>>81699326
He's ok with some sjw propaganda since he forces it on his comic plus the show is pretty good and it's similar to HS in some ways so It would make sense
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>>81699286
>Wife
>MsPaint replaces Spades in the gang
>We avenge that motherfucking casino
>>
>>81695768
Wasn't there an ending to this where she writes "DAVEKAT SUCKS"
>>
>>81699286
i'm still waiting for DD and CD to show up dronegorg
>>
>>81697103
Rebuild of Homestuck. 90% guest art, writing by Hussie. Integrate trolls into the story earlier, drop all plot threads that aren't followed up on, and rewrite most of act 6 to be shorter and make more sense.

Yeah, I'd read the fuck outta that.
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>>81699366
>He's ok with some sjw propaganda since he forces it on his comic
Brought to much baggage into your post anon, carry-on only.
>>
>>81699349
Maids are housekeepers and they clean/repair/heal their aspect (or with their aspect). None of the maids were particularly relevant to the comic but it was kind of hinted this was their power. I imagine it's Sylph's pair.
>>
>>81699151
>their session is pretty much fucked without a space player

kek
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>>81699286
>Homestuck was just a side-story prelude to the Midnight Crew adventure
>>
>chinese knockoff fantrolls
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>>81699349
Generally serving the team or tidying up their aspect (like how Jane's the healer for everyone and Aradia had to double back on timelines until their main timeline was "clean" of excessive death, I guess? something like that). She does have a whole song about wanting to be an inspiration.
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zillywave and sawhoo are going to awaken LE's trickster mode and make big cal

screen this
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>>81699275
Jack better make like Gollum and jump into that volcano after those rings.
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>>81698605
well that comparison is also bad because 1)we see that planet getting blown up directly and 2)the planet was connected to leia's backstory, we feel bad for her losing her home and thus root against vader and his forces

none of this is present with lord english, as we are not shown any of the bad things he does. in his efforts to write a villain that works behind the scenes, and having his younger version gain more focus, hussie completely fucked up at making english actually feel like the final threat.

it also does not help that caliborn is more endearing (learning disablity) and funny than the majority of the heroes are, along with having an interesting backstory and lead up to how he became english (until andrew fucked that up too lol good job man)
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So what are exactly my classpects powers? I thought it was some vanilla ice kinda shit but those sound more like prince of void powers.

Also post your classpects everyone! It's autism time!
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>>81699412
Trolls were introduced very early into the story. The problem is that it was just a small bunch instead of TWELVE of them, at once, clogging every pore of their story with their presence until Hussie got tired of them.
The alpha kids should have been properly integrated earlier, or in a different way. It's bad because they were designed (and introduced!) even before the trolls, but we had to wait until Act 6 to actually see them. The trolls took so much of the alpha kid's spotlight that when they were introduced nobody actually cared about them.
>>
>>81699392
No, that was an unrelated event.
>>
>>81699461
The longer I look at this the less I can control my laughter
>>
>>81699439
I'm pretty sure Connie would be the space one, she's perfect for that aspect, but what would her class be though? Knight?
>>
>>81699480
It's much more like what Okuyasu does with The Hand, for a Jojo analogy. "Teleport" things short distances via the 'eliminination' of the space between them
>>
>>81699422
He said the kids were a-racial for years. At most you could say Davekat maybe, but at this point it's not happening
>>
>>81699439
Maybe they're playing as part of a larger session, or maybe Sapphire and Ruby have different titles and Sapphire's the hidden Seer of Space while Ruby's the Knight of Time or something.
>>
>>81699532
Probably
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>>81699542
No, I get that. That you started your answer to "does Hussie watch a cartoon show" with that was the silly part.
>>
>>81699512
so what if... the alpha kids were the trolls? and you can have caliborn/calliope too (calliope is a humaniboo)
>>
>people wondering where DD is
>not realizing that he'd never be in some big grandiose battle
>not realizing he won't appear using the ring of void and stab John in the back right as he reaches for the door
>then the Condesce (who is immortal) will show up, grab the matriorb, grab earth from john, go through the door, and then DD will blow up the door with dronegorg
>>
>>81699275
Slammer means Jail, by the way
>>
>>81699572
I'm a different guy. I'm saying Hussie doesn't force it, because Hussie is too old to care.
>>
>>81699597
you call it the slammer when youre extra angry at crimes
>>
>>81699591
I reckon dad smacked DD out of the way before busting through that wall
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>>81699479
Exactly.
We've barely seen any of Lord English
We saw him in Collide, his introduction flash, and Caliborn enter. He's only spoken once
We've seen a lot of his components but not a lot of the BIG MAN himself
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>>81699576
How about instead have Cherubquest and the humans are like the trolls to the cherubs and there are no trolls at all and the Midnight Crew comes from a slightly tweaked cherub session instead
>>
>>81699473
haha holy fuck this would be amazing, but slightly out of character since he seems to regret the shit he's done. But he still needs to get thrown in the slammer.
>>
>>81699635
we saw him shoot hussie and smack poor little ms paint too.
>>
>>81699461
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>>81699626
Dad actually got on with DD though, at least, better than other Dad did with SS
>>
>>81699480
Yours is an extremely dangerous title that can easily compromise the success of your game. You're in charge of the recreation of your universe, while having heavily destructive tendencies. Your path defies you to overcome those destructive impulses because, otherwise, you'll be the responsible of the failure at the reproduction of your universe. You'll probably be a complete loner (both Prince and Space? wow!) and you'll probably need somebody else to pacify you. Probably the Knight of your session, if we want to go full callback here.

As for flashy powers go, you're probably able to crack the fabric of spacetime, create black holes, wormholes and portals, and offensive magic involving spacey shit like comets, meteors and stars.
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>>81699644
christ yes

im legit upset at how much better this story would be if you cut out those grey fucks.
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>>81699480
Why don't you tell us what you think you could do.
As a Knight of Light I could use luck at my favor evading powerful attacks by a mere second and deliver killing one shot blows.
I guess I could also create a Light screen to use as a shield or just blind my enemies with light.
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>we never got a Caliborn/Doc Scratch chatlog

the one fucking thing i wanted most.... and we have hussie's self-insert steal the role fuck you andrew
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>>81699682
Terezi and Karkat are legit interesting, and Kanaya would be pretty nice to have in this story. I guess Vriska is necessary too although she's one of the responsible characters to decrease the quality of Homestuck.
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>tfw John "reuniting" with Dad Crocker is a red herring
>tfw dad runs past John to hug Jane

Poor John
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>>81699713
Oh man.
Doc Scratch talking to Caliborn and teaching him instead of AH sounds really good.
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Will John be a good dad?
Will he be a good uncle?
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>>81696006
gamzee makara
transfem enby

duh
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>>81699731
can't mourn over what never happened. i don't think they're worth it whatsoever 2bh.
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>>81699734
Jane will run past John to hug him.
John will look surprised at first, then smile/look down
He'll then see Dad holding out his other arm with Jane beckoning him.
Cue Dad hugging both of them.
I bet the soul of my third born
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>>81699734
>John hugs Jane's dad
>Dad dies immediately afterward
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>>81699762
No
Yes
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>>81699778
What happened to your first and second?
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>>81699778
>I bet the soul of my third born
done.
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>>81699762
Uncle Egbert sounds like the name of a pedophile
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>>81699480
Heir of space. Propably. Maybe. I dunno
Classpect tests are bullshit so I just studied and compared each class and aspect

I learned classpects are bullshit because they're too simplified stereotypes and too much up for interperation.

I could be a prince of breath because im destroying my life by planning and dreaming of things to do instead of doing anything.
Heir of space basically means I just "cover myself in space" aka am fucking alone.
I could be a mage of doom because I know all the ways im fucking up by not getting a job or studying
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>>81699819
I have a bit of a gambling problem.
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Was there ever a stirring need for an mspa board here on 4chan? Homestuck was pretty damn popular just as mlp started to rise, but it all went down the drain.
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>>81699480
being a lame weenie
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>>81699778
This also seems pretty likely
I doubt the story will fuck John over that bad at this point
Especially since the panels leading up to act 7 seem to be mushy, emotional, faux-resolution content

That said, I am hoping that dad recognizes John as his own father and they have a strange, two-sided dad reunion scene
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>>81699875
we mostly kept our stuff to one thread, it wasn't as rampant as mlp
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>Act 7 is actually just a huge strife battle
>Caliborn vs Alpha Kids
>Lord English vs Beta Kids
>both flashes happening at the same time
>the LE one only starts when the kids get sucked, Vriska summons them and she gets obliterated
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>>81698493
it's probably intentional, at least at this point.
Jeff is John, Bro is Dave, blue and red, etc.
Gives a lot of new meaning when Bro is usually the sucker and Jeff is usually the smarter one (for given value of smart)
Compound this with the fact that Dave think John is a hero, leader, etc.
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>>81699762
If John has kids with Roxy won't he be a dad and an uncle at the same time?
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>>81694446
>meteor induced autism
this is my favorite quote ever now
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>>81699731
>Terezi
>Karkat
>Kanaya
>Tavros
Stick with the first 4 and make Kanaya the controversial plot-involved mary sue parody who bullies Tavros. It's not like she has much of an arc already besides Matriorb duties and Rose's ass.
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>>81699959
I really like Terezi. She's one of the best characters, and it shows that Hussie likes her. She's kind of troll Dave in that sense.
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>>81699959
how about we nuke all of them, give more focus on the alpha kids and have caliborn work as the one trolling everyone.
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>>81699681
Well that makes sense since I'm an extremely lonely person, I like having some friends but I usually don't like people in general. Pretty interesting to see how accurate those tests can get to be.

>You're in charge of the recreation of your universe, while having heavily destructive tendencies.
Well shit, that really sounds like a challenge, and I have accidentally killed animals before so I wouldn't be surprised If I fuck that up

Those powers sound pretty badass, but isn't there also some test to know wich would be your weapon or that's just up to yourself?

>>81699895
Makes sense I always make weird little grunts while having sex
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>>81700017
No I'm pretty sure I'd be wanting to talk to Aradia anytime I pick up a phone.
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>>81699926
No. Dave and Jade when they hook up will make him his own dad, but that's about it for fucked up trees.
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>>81700013
or; as a compromise; the trolls work as they did in the earlier acts, we get hints to the other ones, but they're all dead already (no dreambubble shit) and serve as a warning.
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>>81699286
>>81696766

>>81696860
>>81696811
glad you like it, btw
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>>81699703
It doesn't really sound like the best asspect for a knight but that luck part can be pretty usefull, not as usefull as it would be to a rogue of light but at least the literal light powers do sound neat
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>>81700017
>_500.png
>Indexer will never save us from this menace like he used to
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>>81699847
>I learned classpects are bullshit because they're too simplified stereotypes and too much up for interperation.
This is pretty true, i think. That being said, the way I see it, people probably have a complete set of class/aspect pairings in them, but that is just to account for people not being so clear cut. Your title is just the one that is most prominent, rendering the other combinations more or less irrelevant. If you have ever watched Hitman: Reborn! it is kinda like Gokudera's multiple flame types, except in this case they dont manifest themselves in any way beyond personality. Does that make sense?

Heir of Blood btw.
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Now that the dust has settled, is SBURB an efficient and effective manner of propagating the universe?

How could the game be improved?
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>>81700038
what if Damara picked up the phone?
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>>81699480
My first time taking a test like this

>>81699895
>Silence
>Going Limp
Welp
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>>81700025
>Pretty interesting to see how accurate those tests can get to be.
Nah, that interpretation comes from information that was given years after those tests were made. I think it's been implied that Space characters are meant to be kind people, but it's also known that Princes tend to subvert their aspect. There's probably some duality in play here.

> isn't there also some test to know wich would be your weapon or that's just up to yourself?
I guess that's up to yourself, since characters are the ones who chose their strife specibus.
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NOW THAT THE SETTLERS HAVE DUSTED

KARKAT OR VRISKA

WHO IS WORST TROLL
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>>81700013
I think the alpha kids would be way better if they had more signs of existing pre-Act 6. We just had that Jake letter and that's all, but if the new writing staff had found a way to make THEM the mystery trolls, that would have made them better as a complementary cast instead of feeling like last-minute additions who are supposed to be of equal importance.
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>>81700102
name a character with this story with more wasted potential

jesus christ
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>>81700108
Were you kill?
>>81700125
Cloun, after going crazy he became a plot device.
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>>81700102
Damara a SHIT
I would say so and hang up.
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>>81700072
Not every tumblr image has a 1280 size. Sometimes if you punch in the url, it'll take you to a 404 type page. That image was one of those times.
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>>81700125
vris is piss
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>Aradia worships death
>fights against Lord English

>PM is all about JUSTICE
>spares Bec Noir, biggest murderer in the comic

this shit is making me livid, just WRITE THE CHARACTERS CORRECTLY FAGGOT
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>>81699098
Dumb frogposter stop posting worst girl
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>>81700125
>People project on Karkat because they're angry losers like Karkat but they expect him to become great.
>Karkat remains consistently being a loser.
>People see their expectations shattered.
>They feel betrayed for projecting onto Karkat.
>KARKAT IS WORST TROLL.
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>>81700108
>Meulin's canonical mindcontrol molestation
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>>81700079
it must suck having blood as your aspect because no one knows what the fuck that does. Maybe you can bleed the enemies or something?
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>>81700125
why did karkat become such a cuck

where did it all go wrong
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>>81700125
TUHREZI
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>>81700151
Sollux.
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>>81700138
this is what i was thinking, that the alpha kids are the ones trolling the regular sessions. we never see them, so we don't know who they are; thus the twist of them being reset guardians will pack an incredible punch.

putting on my pretentious hat, we can see another brilliant layer to this; the idea of anonymity on the internet hiding the complexity of the individuals making the messages.
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>>81695651
FuCKING SMuTTY HAND-HOLDING
GIVE IT TO ME
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>>81700186
Aradia just wanted to choke english really bad.
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>>81700125
Vriska post retcon

most unabashed plot device ever, fucking embarassing
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>>81700186
She did kill Bec Noir. He's gone for good. Only Jack Noir remains.
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>>81699480
It could also be using space to destroy stuff, so using your creative mind to wreck things
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>>81700091
Well, I think the whole challenge of sburb is for creating worthy gods for the new universe, we could tots just have a new universe be born out of nowhere but who would take care of it
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>>81700125
Vriska, what is this question
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>>81700125
Aranea. Ultimately amounted to nothing and was banned from alpha-timeline for being so shitty.
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>>81700186
PM is all about mail, anon. AR is justice.
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>>81700091
>is SBURB an efficient and effective manner of propagating the universe?
it's okay
rose says that most sessions end in failure but assuming the previous world gets terraformed post-reckoning and life begins again, it gets another chance
obviously it would be better with a higher success rate, but that allows people who didn't try as hard to become universe dads

>How could the game be improved?
dial back the reckoning timer so players don't feel so rushed and skip entire plot lines
or add complex political intrigue to the moons so dreamselves can influence the war and delay the black kingdom's inevitable victory
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>>81700125
Probably Feferi, on account of being the least funny.
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>>81700269
>Ultimately amounted to nothing
>destroyed the beta timeline
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>>81700186
>Aradia worships death
She's just curious about it, not necessarily a worshipper
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post yfw this timeline's AR appears and murders Jack
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>>81700298
Terezi did her shit better before the idea for her character even existed.
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>>81695898
Weren't they introduced on the first page
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>>81700305
More like she's turned on by it
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>>81699682
More thoughts on this AU because you'd probably have to rewrite some aspects of SBURB and the species to get it to work:
The inter-personal hatred between Calliope and Caliborn is toned down to intense rivalry levels instead of murder levels so they can have actual conversations and get the session rolling. Caliborn later opts for murder and hijacks the session. Still takes the Yaldabaoth challenge, becomes the equivalent of Bec Noir attacking the troll's session but for the kids instead. Scratch plays Hussie's role in his journey to help him along (just as sardonically despite his role as servant because those logs were pure gold). Dreambubbles are pared down exponentially so it's a gaggle of significant shitty timelines from the kids' sessions and Calliope still in hiding. The final battle of the series would still be in the B2 kid's session but it'd be against the Felt, English, and maybe Scratch survives this one? And the Exiles get involved.

There's a lot to hammer out but generally speaking it'd be all the best parts of Homestuck and no trolls and the story would still be great and have a lot of common elements.
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>>81700151
How is Damara wasted potential?
She basically Aradia if she was corrupted by English and went full psycho slut mode.
And she's a minor character anyway.
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>>81695898
Yes, they were introduced in Act 3 almost as soon as we got to see Jade. Then we saw their faces on Act 4 and we got their names on Act 5.
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>>81700091
That's not the purpose of SBURB.

SBURB acts as a battlefield between creation and uncreation, with the players acting as the game pieces and the Horrterrors and Skaia acting as the players.

Skaia could probably crank out Universes endlessly, but it's weird proxy war, truce, rivalry, whatever, doesn't allow for it.
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>>81700330
I'd definitely read a fanfic around this idea.
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>>81700205
From what i can tell, it has a lot do do with responsibility, bonds of friendship/kinship, literal fucking blood, which is edgy as fuck, and iron/metal.
>one of Karkat's songs is Iron Knight
I dunno, thats just what i can reasonably assume from reading the comic. Karkat does say that he feels like blood has something to do with "warrior spirit" but then openly admits that he hardly has any idea what he is talking about, so theres that.
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>>81700309
You say as if people here wouldnt throw a tantrum and call hussie a hack because its literally what you propose.
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>>81700324
Essentially.

LE isn't death personified anyways. He just hands a bunch of it out because he's an edgy dope. He himself has gotta die some day.
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>>81700378
Isn't the ethical things to not complete the game?
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>>81696874
>Tfw Tavros/Kanaya will never happen
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>>81700388
maybe other blood player would be better at it and karkat just sucks at this
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>>81695969
>not posting the full comic
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>>81700339
>She basically Aradia if she was corrupted by English and went full psycho slut mode.

which we never even saw

she just wound up as another mook in vriska's stupid army. instead of having aranea become a villain for THE TWEEST damara could have served as a great minor antagonist, heralding the way for english. kurloz too, she could work with him and meulin.
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>>81700430
good
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>>81700441
I don't remember seeing any Damaras in the army.
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>>81700461
There's on in one of the worse guest panels, but it's a continuity error.
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>>81700339
She would have made a much better minor villain than Spiderbitch 2: Extra Dialogue edition

Having to stop a time traveler from fucking up your session would have been interesting.
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>>81700441
except Meulin, Kurloz, Damara and Cronus (inadvertantly) caused their session to fail, which in turn set up the alpha trolls, who set up the kids, who set up the alpha kids, who set up English

they did herald english
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>>81700195
No, some of us are mad, because he didn't learn shit.

He was busy hanging around with Dave and forgetting shit.
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If Hussie updates while I'm at work and I get fired because of reading Homestuck in the middle of my shift I'm holding Hussie accountable
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Pre-getting-stabbed Vriska is a great example of how to give a supporting character an arc while making fun of the distinction between protagonists and supporting characters. Unfortunately Act 5 was overwrought with shitty filler characters, unnecessary "lore", and just a lot of stalling in general. And everything went to shit afterwards.

In an ideal world, Act 5 would have been around the size of Act 4, only feature 4-6 trolls, and not even bother with most of Hivebent. And Acts 1 and two would be merged with the Intermission standing as its own Act.
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>>81700186
Aradia did say she didn't want any of her friends to permadie, IIRC.

>>81700330
All of this. The Beta kids' hesitant relationship with the Alphas should be the same one they had with the trolls, before we find out they're alternate versions of the guardians. (The twist could have been built up a bit longer, remember a lot of readers hadn't guessed that Jade's penpal was kid Grandpa.)
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The only actual problem with the writing in Homestuck was the back and forth whining between the Alpha kids in act 6 as well as the meteor/battleship fucking up the pacing to death.
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>>81700522
The Intermission being an Intermission is okay.
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>>81700510
>posts on 4chan
>watches homestuck on work
What are you doing with your life
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>>81700510
Many things in my life have come about because I read Homestuck.

One of them was the tragic smashing of my laptop screen thanks to my sister.

It's Hussie's fault.
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>>81694290
That's because Terezi is the second fuck up of the story, the hidden in plain sight (yeah I know, shut up) true Sue behind the original Sue. It's related.
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I hope whatever Hussie writes next has no dialogue. He can write good dialogue, but his true talent is in narration
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>>81700434
This is probably true. Karkat, as the personification of the Cancer sign, has a inferiority complex, which makes him feel like he is piss poor at damn near everything, but what comes along with this is the power of trying really hard at stuff even if he fails a couple of times or has doubts. This is probably what he meant by warrior spirit, its a kind of never give up attitude.
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>>81697399
That's the thing, homestuck is really unique in the way that it's told. Any adaptation as a movie or show etc. would be unwatchable, as parts would need to be cut out. I think homestuck shouldnt be remade, but spinoffs would be alright.
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>>81700195
Pre-retcon Karkat is much more 4chan than mituna ever was
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>>81700593
I vaguely remember this.

She stepped on it in reaction to an update or something, right?
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>>81700522
I've lost my ability to care how Homestuck should have been. Just end it all for me.
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>Aranea was a plot device to fuck up the Game Over timeline
>Vriska was a plot device to fix the retcon timeline
Pattern or pottery?
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>>81700619
PS/MC-type dialogue is cool
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>>81700495
I don't think Andrew would ever do that, simply on the grounds that Serkets have more presence in the story than the Megidos. Even despite them being just as influential to the plot.

Having a spiderbitch fuck everything up is a more predictably event, anyway. Even if we knew of Damara and the Handmaid's destructive influence.
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Wich are the best sources for figuring out classpects? All the test are bullshit and way too simple and the one in depth I found was on a "social justice" tumblr and had fan-classes. Is there anything that explains the aspects and classes?
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>>81700654
No, there is no patterning anymore. Patterns died ages ago, there is only chaos.
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>>81697719
every };)
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>>81700593
oh yeah. your screen still fucked right now? this was like 2 weeks ago right?
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>>81700688
it mostly just boils down to fanon
other than a few aspects, prince and bard, we have no real clue what they do
really, the best way to do it is pick something you think you'd work as
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>>81700654
>Jane and Jade are breed hungry sluts
>Roxy and Rose are alcoholics
>Jake and John are retarded
>Dave and Dirk are whiny
POMEGRANATE
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>>81700688
u got it bro: >>81699895
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>>81697399
That's why you have to adapt it loosely. Chop and choose which characters and what part of the stories you want to keep.
It'd make a fun movie if done well.
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>>81693435
I thought Homestuck threads were banned or something
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>>81700686
it's all hypothetical in a better world

what would you have wanted instead?
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>>81700674
I count that as part of his narration style.
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i like how the retcon pretty much was hussie telling anyone who wasn't a terezi, john or roxy fan to suck his dick
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>post yfw Condy ESCAPED TO THE SIDE since the kids turned their back on the body
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>>81700769
Terezi was ruined, too.

It's Vriskafags who won.
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>>81700746
Not while there are updates.
It's like SU threads: okay a while before, during, and a while after episodes.
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>heir of rage
How thw fuck? Im basically the most beta person all I do is surroud myself with anime, cartoons, play guitar, draw and act. i guess im emotianal sometimes but thats only when im alone. I like getting into hotheaded arguments but even then only when others want to have an argument too...

I guess its pretty cool being rage incarnate though...
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>>81700804
>...
Please stop posting
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>>81700769
Terezi's character got DESTROYED by the Terezi-centric retcon. Like Terezi became a good character DURING the retconning and then fell below where she was at the start when it was all over.
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>>81700718
It still works
But I can't see the corner of my screen at all any more
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>>81699349
>Garnet not being Maid of Love
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>>81700851
You read through that whole "I'm underaged as fuck" post and only took issue at the end punctuation? Really?
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>>81698266
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>>81700897
I am not a smart man
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>>81700796
Fuck. Well I guess I should get used to no more Homestuck threads ever again.
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>>81700997
We'll probably be allowed to have one once every few weeks or so, like during the Gigapause.
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>Rose canonically has bigger tits than Roxy now

This is some fucking bullshit.
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>>81700509
>Karkat makes a hurtful comment
>gets fucked over hard

>Vriska makes hurtful comments
>gets away for free
Why the fuck is this allowed?
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>>81700997
i'm trying to find someone stupid enough to DM for a sburb-based tabletop game
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>>81701070
>Fanart being canon for character appearances.
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>>81701075
We actually cared about Karkat
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>>81701070
I like Roxy as an A-cupper. It's cute!
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>>81699910
>both fights happening at once
>screen split on left and right
>juju gets used and they fucking swap right over and continue fighting
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>>81699023
She's neglected it
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>>81701137
I mean it makes sense that Rose would be fatter, but its still dumb.
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>>81699910
But EoA6 was named "the last battle of Homestuck"... WHERE IS THE LIE
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>>81701070
>bigger tits than Jade AND Jane
>and they're wasted on fucking Rose
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>>81700750
I don't know.
I don't really give two shits about the alpha trolls as is.
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>>81701173
Because Hussie forgot about LE halfway through telling other people to make the animation for him
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>>81701137
What if they're buff tits though? Those look bad A-cup.
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>>81700545
Indeed!
The structure I'm thinking of now is:

Act 1 is the kids starting up their session. Along with the Alphas, whose relationship with the kids is left vague in the same way as "J" being Jade's penpal was, Calliope and Caliborn are the equivalents of the trolls, but in this case they're also just now starting up their session instead of talking to them post-session. We don't see them, so they're assumed to be human or left otherwise species ambiguous. Maybe Calliope wants to be a human instead of a troll and we see her hand in a white glove, which is an excellent way to hide Caliborn's similar appearance to LE. Exile stuff happens. The human session is invaded and fucked over by English. The kids are forced to scratch and a lot of the stuff from Cascade happens (I'll have to... work out how the Exiles make it to the next session without first guardian powers, maybe that prototyping just happens anyway but doesn't fuck everything up quite as much)

The Intermission happens and it's just the Intermission, but instead it takes place on the Earth moon in the B2 universe. The Exiles are separate from it but the moon looks kind of weird from their vantage point on Earth. We're not sure of the significance but people assume the demon that attacked the kid's session is the unrevealed Lord English.

Act 2 is the cherub session and oh wow oh shit they look like English what a twist. They actually get to play (no chains because it seems unnecessary in this case, maybe their sarswapagus acts as a key that unlocks separate rooms), Caliborn kills Calliope (who we're now much more invested in), does his Yaldabaoth session and gets the Felt, achieves immortality and craaaazy time powers, fucks off to the kid's session. Calliope's shown to be hiding in the bubbles and English is already after her there and then because weird time and space shit we're used to.

(to be coctinued.....)
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>>81701233
She has to be buff, she lives on a fucking slave commune and has nothing to do all day. She has to work out.
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>>81701191
Why do people make Jade flat
She's related to Jane
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reminder
>>
GIVE ME MY UPDATE ALREADY HUUUUUUUUUSSIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>81701208
Why are people allowed to draw fictional characters this hot? God dammit boner she isn't real chill out
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>>81701208
Why are people allowed to draw fictional characters this hot? God dammit boner she isn't real chill out
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>>81701284
Hussie never drew her with tits like he did for Jane
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>>81700578
Yeah, but it'd work just as well as its own Act.
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>>81699286
I would literally die of blood loss due to all of the blood in my body going into my dick
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>>81701326
Oh fuck
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>>81699910
Nah, LE will wiped out by plot bullshit. We've already had the battle.
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>>81701326
>Lord English is going to be a Caliborn we've never met

FUCK YOU HUSSIE
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>>81701326
I'm still not really sure what this means? Is this going to be a reference to Caliborn's chess ruse, and that this Calliope was Caliborn in disguise the whole time?
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>>81701344
>Tumblr nose
>This hot
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>>81701326
WHO WILL SAY HIS NAME
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>>81701345
Hussie barely drew her at all
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>>81701102
If you ever find one, interested in another player?
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>>81701419
cloun
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Less than 48 hours and only 11 pages left.
Are you ready?
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>>81701419
A PISSED OFF GAMZEE
>>
GOD TIER
Calliope

GOOD TIER
English


SHIT TIER
Gamzee
someone on accident
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>>81701419
HONL
>>
you know i think dave influenced how i type and i just now noticed it
i'm nowhere near as cool but i think i picked up some of his other mannerisms
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>>81701414
Nah, just a body swap.
If correcty, Caliborn would basically have two bodies now.
The one he shares with calliope and his god tier one with the prosthetics.
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>>81701450
He's already gone.
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>>81701412
but how did that caliborn even reached god tier if he is one we've never seen bedore?
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>>81701464
meant to link to >>81701419

if switching to Caliborn is some huge Calliope evil ruse then i'll be fine with the twist

like what if she's cooperating with her Caliborn
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>>81701464
What kind of list is this faggot?
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>>81701412
Wow
Are you mentally impaired?
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Legit question:
would you fuck condy?
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How much did eoa6 cost to make, I wonder.
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>>81699480
Bard of Space
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>>81701412
>Our Caliborn will be freed with the Beta kids.
>He'll have a good end epilogue too.
Hell yeah!
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>>81701511
who wouldn't
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>>81701511
Yeah why the fuck not
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>>81701428
>Introduce autistic science girl.
>She does a cool blind snipe.
>"lol jk she won't do shit for the rest of the story except act as a plot device"

Hussie's greatest ruse. I should have known better than to assume he'd do guns right.
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>>81701414
Calliope's cheeks are swirled, meaning if someone says Caliborn he'll take over
Some bullshit about the ring of void and life being the same, and Caliborn saying red herrings run through his blood
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>>81701505
How does he get the ring then if it isn't swirly Caliborn?
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>>81701546
>yet she's the best kid in the comic right now
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>>81701511
Um, yes.
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>>81700784

She's a Life player. She's probably not going to be referenced again in the comic but it would be easy to bring her back for any kind of sequel.
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>the "you aren't worthless" Jade peptalk actually wasn't meant to be about her as much as it was to prepare people for another Caliborn being the actual villain
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>>81701511
I don't think I would have a choice
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>>81700330

When I thought about a Homestuck "rebuild" I personally didn't think it would be necessary to cut out the trolls entirely, although it makes sense that people want to do that.

Honestly, I think the comic works pretty well until Cascade, the main thing I want is a total reimagining of Act 6 and the elimination of Hivebent (in other words, integrating trolls earlier in the story).

My vision of Act 6 would still have the kids traveling through paradox space to get to the B2 session, but a lot more shit would happen, and they'd have to actively evade LE. The B2 session would have gone to shit, and the B1 kids/remaining trolls would learn about it through dream bubbles, since they're outside of time anyway, and there'd be this big mystery surrounding the kid versions of their guardians and what exactly they're up against. I dunno, didn't do a good job explaining it but it I think it would work without having to change up the story too much.
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>>81701579
but that's roxy
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>>81701579
How fucking delusional do you have to be?
>>
>>81701535
ay me too bub
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>>81701579
No character development beats shit character development.
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>>81701447
count me in too
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>>81701566
It's the same Caliborn
If you seriously can't even grasp that concept then I don't know why you're reading homestuck because you probably have no clue what has even happened in the story up to this point
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>>81701625
>delusional
Is this the newest buzzword in these threads?
>>
I can't wait for all the tears today when Davekat happens and they kiss
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>>81701629
Ayyyy, brothers in arms.
>>
UPDATE
P
D
A
T
E
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>>81701618
see >>81701625
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>>81701546

Look again, she didn't actually hit anything when she was blindfolded, Bec caught the bullet and redirected it to the target.
>>
>>81701662
but today is johndad
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>>81701653
mad kid
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>>81701537
what comic is this?
>>
>>81701686
STOP FUCKING LYING GODDAMN YOU PIECE OF SHIT
>>
>>81701686
You're a cunt
>>
I think the best "simplified Homestuck plot" is one where the Scratch is eliminated.

Jack Noir remains the main villain, and basically replaces the Black King. He may still get Bec's powers, but he never makes it to the Trolls' session. They can be explained to have won the game, but done so while ignoring their personal quests and not saving their lands, so they created the new universe, but are denied the prize of entering it.
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>>81701700
I'm fully aware.
It was still cool.
>>
>>81699469
we can dream
>>
John > Roxy > Pre-Act 5 Dave > Pre-Act 5 Rose > Dirk > Post Act 5 Rose > Post Act 5 Dave > Jade > Jake > Jane
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http://strawpoll.me/7346237
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>>81701709
Oh okay, you're a /b/tard. Nevermind then.
>>
>>81701233
Those do look weird in A-cup but unusual isn't bad, it's still cute.
>>
>>81701419
Either Jake misgenders her or Gamzee gets one final line of dialogue.
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>>81701759
>Jade that low
Fuck off
>>
>>81701714
Black Brick Road of Oz
It's either on hiatus or dead though.
>>
>all these people complaining that homestuck is too complicated

Why do you even like it? Most of homestuck's appeal is the ridiculous, convoluted plot

Please don't blindly hate on things just because you don't get it
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>>81701759
Wrong.
Dave>Roxy=Dirk>John>Rose>Jane>Jade>Jake
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>>81701262
Actually, I'm going to go ahead and toss in Bec Noir on that clusterfuck because we need that battlefield tragedy for WV's character development (which would ACTUALLY BE DELIVERED ON because this is TROLL-LESS HOMESTUCK and THE SKY'S THE LIMIT). All the exiles survive because I said so, though.

Then Act 3 is the B2 session with an earth that was kind of fucked up by Scratch, maybe the B2 kids grew up in a world that was directly more troll-like. The kids show up in their actually decent session, which has the void prototypings so the ring of life can be around. We got most of the Alpha kids' conversations with the cherubs in the cherub session because the Beta kids were busy getting blasted by English for most of it. The kids show up, Roxy saves Calliope with the ring, and the final face-off of the comic is Lord English, Scratch, and the Felt against all the kids, prototyped WV (or AR) and PM, Spades Slick (since the rest of his crew died in the Intermission but let's just say B2 DD, HB, and CD all survived this time and become the new crew after), and Calliope, who's not a good fighter but helps where she can. Kids win, Caliborn probably dies but since the bubbles are pared down he can just chill there. Scratch also probably dies but the Felt abscond post-fight and the Midnight Crew adventures can continue on B2 Derse or something.

Also all the kids and cherubs are 13-ish throughout the whole story and shipping bullshit is kept to a minimum because almost everyone's related anyway.

Thank you for reading my fanfiction be sure to like and subscribe
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Today is finally the day Dadkat happens.
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>>81701833
>>81701759
>Current Dave ever that high
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>all these people who think the comic would be good if it had as few characters as possible
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>>81701827
No I'm pretty sure they're saying it's too much for a movie.
>>
>>81701511
All boys would, and you'd still have to be like the straightest girl who ever lived not to want to fuck Condy.
>>
>>81701843
>Dadkat
I want it
>>
>>
>>81701827
On the other hand, there's that feeling that it will leave several loose ends and possible interactions. It's a very unsatisfying thought.
>>
>>81701864
wwhats up sheevv
>>
update
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>>81701535
I forget, does bard make you "flop" in bed, or are classes the sounds and aspects the actions?
>>
update
>>
>Caliborn's hard earned victory will be taken away by his mary sue retard of a sister who did nothing but sit and wait for some voidy bitch to revive her
IT'S NOT FAIR

IT'S NOT RIGHT
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>>81701683
>>81701629
>>81701535
Welp, bless the souls of those who end up as with you 2 in their session. May they rest in peace
>>
>>81701827
yeah this

i did think homestuck kinda fucked up by getting too deep into discussions of emotions and preachy shit late on but literally every retarded plot device and all the characters and every single dumb ass extra factor thing that got added to the comic over its run was all good and the reason why homestuck is fucking great in the first place.
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>>81701895
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>>81701907
It's going to be a very unsatisfying ending. It's going to feel just like Collide. It will have some fun parts, but overall leave a bad taste in your mouth and raise more questions than it answers. We'll be whining about it for weeks.
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I'M NOT CRYING
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HE RECOGNIZES HIS FATHER
>>
AWWW
CUTE UPD8
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i can't hold all these feels
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>>81701951
>weeks
We will continue to have angry Homestuck threads until /co/ is deleted
>>
>JANE just has to stand there
>didn't even know her OWN DAD was alive but she gets cucked out of her reunion by the randos who cucked her out of relevance to her own session
>>
oh, NOW she draws the Jane tits
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Where were you when everything was great.
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>>81701952
WELL THAT WAS UNEXPECTED
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>>81701939
>>
i'm fucking crying, what are you doing hussie
>>
>>81701952
>>81701960
>>81701972
FINALLY SOMETHING DECENT
>>
>>81701704
>John is a leader who doesn't lead
>Dad starts with a D

DaveKat confirmed obviously
>>
>>81702004
She is a 16 year old girl, and she kind of hates her Dad if I remember correctly,
>>
2DAD
>>
>Jane just standing there

Seriously what the FUCK
It's HER dad.

I'd be more happy to see my daughter than a kid version of father.
>>
>>81701933
He legit tried the hardest out of any of the characters, had a shit life and no upbringing.

But your personality is everything :^)
>>
>this fucking update
>dad crocker and john hug
>jane just stands to the side and smiles
HUSSIE WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BOTH OF THEM AT ONCE

>>81702016
GREAT?
JOHN IS HUGGING JANE'S DAD
JANE IS JUST STANDING THERE
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE
>>
>Gamzee says Caliborn, Caliborn takes out the wand/pistol and shoots Dad in the head
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>DAD!

>DAD!
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>>81702040
>>81702031
>>81702004
I think you guys are missing the obvious cues.

Hussie's dad died semi-recently, remember?
>>
Is Dad adopted?

I can't imagine why else he exists completely unchanged through the Scratch.
>>
>>81701960
FATHER!
YOU'RE ALIVE!
I DON'T BELIEVE IT!
I WAS SURE WE STUFFED YOU.
>>
>>81701835
Oh, forgot to account for Bec Noir.

He falls in love with PM in the past with the package thing and he hesitates to kill her and the rest of the exiles because of it but then PM puts on the ring and they duke it out then and there and she wins. Rather than kill him they just leave him ringless on the planet and escape the session because they noticed the kids doing it on their monitors. That Jack becomes Slick. Everyone forgives his numerous horrible acts of violence because... some reason. Probably his help in the English fight. Maybe he's just unrecognizable in a hat. He also moves on to Ms. Paint.


Also, update! Adorable.
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>>81702063
YES
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>>81701927
The Bard is Whispering
Space is Squeezing
In other words
>pic related
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>>81702059
>IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BOTH OF THEM AT ONCE
This.
HUSSIE YOU HACK
>>
>>81701960
>>81701960
I feel like this is a callback to a specific panel but I am not sure which
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>>81702016
How is Dirk there?

His death was legit according to god tier rules.

>>81701933
I kind've agree. Sure Caliborn was evil, but his sister should've at least had to do stuff to earn her resurrection.
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>>81701821
thanks

>>81699480
how would a rogue of hope work?
>>
>>81701759
Jade is at least Dirk level because I actually laughed at her once.
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>>81702016
Jane and Rose's bosoms.
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>>81702071
>>
>mr crocker gets to meat his dad
>after all these years
Oh my god
>>
>>81702063
oh my goooood
>>
>>81702107
>How is Dirk there?
Jane revived him remember?
>>
I SAID I WOULDN'T CRY, I FUCKING TOLD MYSELF I WOULDN'T CRY WHY AM I CRYING GOD DAMNIT
>>
>>81702107
His death was legit, but he was revived by Jane's life-y thing.
>>
>>81702107
Jane is a life player
>>
>>81702106
I think it was when dad saw dreamjohn on skaia?
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>>81702016
why isnt jane hugging her dad
why does every character think this reunion is a big deal
why is terezi finally smiling
this was a good update but this page makes no sense
>>
>>81702063
CALLING IT
>>
>>81702071
I think this.
Hussie = John
Dad Huss = Dad
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>>81702084
God damn it. This is why we needed Hussie narration for these panels.
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>>81702071
fuck
fuuuuuck
>>
>>81702109
You steal hope and give it to your friends. And since were talkin about HOPE you're basically giving everyone mario stars
>>
>>81702140
>>81702147
>>81702149

Awww. I was hoping god tier rules prevented that. Way to ruin a cool character moment and the best way for him to go out.
>>
Was Austin, Atlantis ever used in the comic?
>>
>>81702063
Gamzee was sucked into a black hole
>>
>>81702040
To me it looks more like she's just turned around and realized he's there, I'm sure there'll be a reunion for her in the next update.

Also Dad already knew Jane was fine.
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>>81702152
Nope, I checked. Not John seeing Dad, either.

>>81702155
>why does every character think this reunion is a big deal
They probably realize it's his father
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>>81702106
?
>>
>>81702016
>Jade and Jane have boobs
>Karkat not even standing near Dave
>Dave standing near Dirk
Yes good
>>
>>81702109
You rang?

Rogues, as we know, are the passive counterpart to thieves. They steal things to give to allies, like a Robin Hood sort of thing (correct legend, yes?). A Rogue of Hope is pretty self explanitory aside from the fact that we're not REALLY 100% sure how hope works, but, they steal hope from things to give to allies. They would probably be a good session leader despite being a Rogue which is an interesting conflict and, I would imagine, be the basis of their personal arc. Moral center of the session!
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This is the face of a man who's about to say the name of his Lord
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>>81702059
this guy here

>>81702071
i didn't even realize
yeah,wow that got the tears going
>>
>>81701070
Those are only that size because of kanaya biting and sucking them
>>
>>81702219
>Jade has boobs
>implying

even Roxy has more than her, the fittest girl there

JUST
>>
>>81702192
I feel the same. For a supposed final battle, Collide was underwhelming. It had no emotional impact, even though it tries to do it with the callbacks and such.
>>
>>81702059
But then when he fucking dies tomorrow that would motivate Jane instead of just John: The Hero.
>>
Still kinda sucks that it's not actually John's father.

He's still dead.
>>
>>81702109
purring and gyrating

Congrats, you won weirdest.
>>
>>81702248
You can see the curvature dude.
Jade clearly wears a tight bra anyway for combat purposes.
>>
>>81702253
or it motivates both of them
like im just ssaying

not having a just as touching jane and dad reunion will feel

really weird
>>
There's no way Dad will not die tomorrow.
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DAVEKAT STATUS:?????
>>
new thread when

>>81702264
dad is a universal constant
>>
>Jane got dad-cucked by John.
Not even her dad likes her, god.
>>
>>81702223
I don't think Jake knows his lord's name.
>>
>>81702155
Because they're shouting and we have no dialogue text to realize this.
>>
>>81702290
Still as canon as it ever was.
>>
>>81702155
Most of them lose their parents, they're happy that at least his friend, the one that was always there for them gets to see his one last time
>>
>>81702290
>hasn't happening in many updates
>more davejade teasing than anything else
>not even told by Hussie to draw it
It hit a landmine called "canon" and exploded.
>>
>>81702208
We've been over this.
It isn't his, it's Jane's.
>>
JANEFAGS ON SUCIDE WATCH
>>
>>81694313
except that was by far the best and most hilarious thing involving john, almost coming close to actual character development, but will never be followed up on because hussie is a hack.
>>
>>81701827
>Most of homestuck's appeal is the ridiculous, convoluted plot
that's only appealing if the plots get resolved tightly
>>
>>81702223
>>
>>81702330
>janefags

Those exist?
>>
>>81702288
>12 minutes of animation left
>LE unaccounted for
>Hussie didn't even bother to write this part
Yeah, some shit's about to go down and Dad would be the most devastating one to go right now.
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>>81702320
THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFUL SHIP

THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFUL YAOI
>>
>>81702284
Everyone else's chest symbols are bending with their boob mound's curve, but not Jade.
>>
>>81702359
fucking lol
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Would saying "Caliborn, Calliopie" over and over really fast give them brain damage?
>>
Theoretically, does Dad have to be left behind when the rest go onto their reward?

Were all the guardians doomed not to make it even if they somehow survived the entire session?
>>
>>81702223
Man, I can fucking see it now. One big grouptalk tomorrow, all the characters talking to each other, and it ends with:

>JAKE: Golly, i am glad roxy was able to bring you that ring
>JAKE: Err... by jove i have forgotten your name!
>JAKE: *nervously scratches chin* what was it again? something like...
>JAKE: Caliborn?
>>
>>81702155

Sorry but Terezi not smiling was confirmed just to be something the artist did on her own, Hussie gave no directions.

Great job Hussie, outsourcing the important emotional moments at the end of the story to someone who doesn't even know what happens before and after.
>>
>>81702079
>can't imagine why else he exists completely unchanged through the Scratch.

Personalities are biological in homestuck
>>
Oh, now we know why John teleports everyone to Caliborn.

Because he ices Dad.
>>
>>81702385
maybe it would cure their brain damage
>>
>>81702400
Do you have a source with that.
>>
>>81702399
yeah that's gonna be it
shit
>>
>>81702290
I still think that similar to how humans have adopted quadrants, Karkat has adopted the human custom of bros.

That and it makes sense, since we've seen that Karkat is atypical of trolls in general.
>>
>>81702071
Fuck you man, I'm on a public place right now trying to hold the tears so goddamn much and you throw me this shit
>>
One more update until Act 7.

We got 2 more days left of Homestuck.
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>>81702191
>you're basically giving everyone mario stars
kek thats a great analogy

>>81702221
>They would probably be a good session leader despite being a Rogue which is an interesting conflict and, I would imagine, be the basis of their personal arc. Moral center of the session!
thatd be giving me a lot of credit

>>81702266
thats not too far off should i actually fuck
>>
>>81702359
Whoever actually causes this fucktastrophe will be haunted forever by fandom as the biggest fuckup of all time.

Jake's had too much of that, give it to someone else Hussie.
>>
>>81702377
Yeah it is
Face it, Huge Harley Hooters exist.
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I think Caliborn's rage is a subset of his sexual frustration and general not-understanding of how sex works. He thinks hand holding is sexual, he hates women, he shows interest in owning women, he is angry.

Maybe if someone just jerked him off the fate of the universe would have turned out better
>>
>>81702399
>>81702408
I am so ready for shit to hit the fan
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>>81702359
WHO IS GONNA DO IT

WHO IS GONNA KILL DAD

inb4 Kanaya
>>
>>81702399
I think im going to cap this post, I have a good feeling its going to be this
>>
>>81702394
There's no reason he wouldn't come with.
>>
its gonna be Jane

MARK MY WORDS
>>
If Dad dies again I'm burning my Homestuck books and bashing my head into a wall to forget everything.
>>
>>81702438
Well, that's the conflict! The rogue wants to stay hidden, but hope is flashy and big and outgoing. Perhaps your lack of self-esteem is endearing, you fucking pansy, or maybe once you get into circumstances like an actual game session you fucking nut up and let your balls drop. Not everyone is a big shouty leader, and rogues are probably not, you can lead in ways that arent charging into the fray with a suicide flag waving.

(sorry for poor english by the way)
>>
>>81702408
>a huge rainbow deathbeam comes out and smokes Dad
>not even aimed, just a stray shot

>"okay fuck this shit, everybody get over here"
>>
>>81702071
fuck
that's
ok this made me emotional
>>
>>81702447
HAITCH
>>
>>81702399
Why would saying Caliborn bring him out? They're two different people now.
>>
How the hell are they going to kill LE in two updates
>>
>>81702449
That's just how his species reproduces. Calliope is the largely atypical one.

Really Caliborn only became a threat because he happened to be destined for sburb.
>>
>>81702394
Even if that was true all John has to do is see what the other side is like then retcon Dad into the new universe.
>>
>>81702221
Yo, whaddup redpill me on spaceheirrings, hairspace and heirs of spacey rooms
>>
>>81702446
What if Calliope herself goes full retard and says it?

>CALLIOPE: now we mUst all Unite to stop my brother!
>KARKAT: WAIT, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO FIGHT LORD ENGLISH.
>CALLIOPE: did i not tell yoU? my brother, caliborn, ~is~ lord english!
>>
>>81702446
>Someone mentions that it's time to fight LE, Calliope's brother
>Every alpha but Roxy says "Caliborn?" at once, for a perfect 3 times
Best kid solidified.
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>>81702071
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>>81702536
fat
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>>81702071
;_;
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>>81702536
you just get really fat
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>>81702548
Wait, you have to say it three times?

Was it always a Beetlejuice reference?
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>>81702426
Reddit, papers said it herself (her username is something like tribute and numbers)
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newn thread

>>81702557
>>81702557
>>81702557
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>>81702526
We got 12 minutes of animation left and something completely new.
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>>81702512
your english is great, and thanks for the explanation
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>>81702327
>davejade teasing

The latest updates seem to indicate they don't really give a fuck about each other.
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>>81702438
>>81702109
Hey anon, as a Heir of Blood, I think we would make a pretty good team. You wanna hang out, or somethin ;]?
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>>81702449
To be honest the end of Homestuck being a massive Caliborn jerkoff session would be amazing

DMK but it's a sexual frustration meter

As it is, that's a legitimate direction the story could go with Alt Calliope.

>>81702524
She still has cheek swirls, which implies he's still latently accessible since her body isn't predominated to her alone.
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>>81702536
whimpering and squeezing

You are the bullied nerd of the bedroom.
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>>81702581
Well, how about you link to it then?
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>>81702394
>>81702484

>Kids and dad go through door
>Outer space
>Everyone dies

How does this get solved anyway

I bet Hussie just ends the comic when they open the door so he doesn't have to explain it.
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>>81702577
Once is fine, but it'd work as a dual reference for extra stupidity.
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>>81702541
Yeah I think if anybody is gonna say it it's gonna be Calliope.
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>>81699412
There needs to be an editor. That's fucking crucial. Hussie needs someone to tell him "no".
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Doesn't Hussie know the definition of the word Epilogue?

>Epilogue
>a section or speech at the end of a book or play that serves as a comment on or a conclusion to what has happened.

IS HE GOING TO FUCKING SUBVERT EVERYTHING?
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>>81702611
>tfw Bard of Space is essentialy a rapist
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if the next update doesn't feature DD's spear puncturing Dad's heart I'll be disappointed
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>>81702618
ur dum
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>>81702614
Don't feel like it.
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>>81702399
but then all they'd have to do is say calliope
and it's not like little caliborn alone is a threat
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>>81702649
This is the last update before Act 7, buddy.
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>>81699903
YOU WIN
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>>81702672
Oh okay, so it is bullshit then.
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>>81702727
not him but papers did actually confirm taht
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>>81701607
Seconded. Act 6 was where the comic really broke down. Pre-Act 5 could do with some restructuring, but it was pretty good on the whole.
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>>81699903
You called it anon
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>>81700125
Karkat "Manlet" Vantas vs Vriska "Mary Sue" Serket?

Tough call
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>>81700522
Vriska never should have appeared again after the end of Act 5. Not even a cameo. Her arc was concluded perfectly, and every page past that she showed up on only served to dilute it.
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>>81702727
You're not tricking me into looking it up for you. I don't give a shit whether you trust me or not.
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>>81702597
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>>81702290
ABSOLUTELY C A N O N

>>81702430
That happened in the old timeline. Karkat explicitly calls Dave "bro". The new one is where they're fucking.
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>>81699213
He's Hussie's second pet, right after Vriska. It's annoying and the fandom revers her like some untouchable golden turd.
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they're not even close to each other at an emocional moment like this, indeed they're at some great distance even stridercest is more plausible than this stupid davekat meme thing and stridercest it's surely an humongous horseshit too
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>>81703048
Considering that Dave and Dirk have had more in-depth onscreen character interaction than Dave and Karkat, Stridercest would make more sense than fucking Davekat
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