Okay, this is just overdoing it tbqh senpai
wait... aren't Power Man and Luke Cage the same guy?
>>81483255
Just like how steve rogers and captain america are the same guy
Who the fuck is Blue Marvel? Feels like a bad DC rip off.
And I mean that as in a shitty indie comic ripping off DC, not Marvel ripping off DC.
>>81483332
He is. He is the best most smartest superhero ever and was the first hero in marvel that wasn't a war hero. He had to step down because he was black
>>81483255
No. Luke hadn't used power man in years so some kid who can use chi relating to places ages to get stronger
Now you know how women and people of color feel.
>>81483192
>that complete retardation writing at the bottom
>>81483192
Without a doubt. I mean yea She Hulk can probably take the fall and I'm sure Spider-Man will web onto something, but Luke, White Tiger and Power Man are probably fucked. Jut because they want to look cool like everyone else they jump from a helicarrier. Now they're going to get halfway down realize they fucked up and the Flyers are going to have to catch them. And that takes out two thirds of your team for the initial from above surprise attack right there. They just didn't think this through at all.
>white tiger
>white
That racist.
>>81483395
>He had to step down because he was black
i always thought that whole scene was pants on head retarded
Is that at least peter?
>>81483649
no, i'm a person of color and this page is still stupid
>Two white people and a bunch of blacks
>tfw there will never be a native American super hero whose entire character evolves around him being a super traditionalist native American stereotype.
Fucking negroes are just as bad as the white man.
>>81483915
It's narration by Reed Richards I think.
>>81484318
>this page is still stupid
>not liking/knowing Ewing's Mighty Avengers
I thought black people were supposed to be good at comics.
>>81483192
>White Tiger with a sword
What?
>>81484163
Yes
Captain Falcon started after he came back.
>>81483933
Luke should be able to take the fall and so should power man if he is charged up. white tiger is fucked despite how silly Ewing has made her.
>>81483192
I agree OP Deodato is a hack, why does Ewing keep getting stuck with shit artists
>>81484565
Ultimates looks great.
And I know I'm in the minority but I really like Sandoval on New Avengers.
>>81483649
Most characters in American media should be white because it reflects the actual demographic. If Americans were 90% black, then this page wouldn't be a problem at all.
>>81483956
She's latina.
>>81484565
Some tracers have the decency to atleast make you look at an image for more than a second to realize it's traced/poser shit.
With that said, someone post the lego ship panel from that issue.
>>81484494
She lost her tiger god powers
>>81484710
That was like a month ago.
This is from before Secret Wars.
>>81484668
Most characters in American media are white though?
>>81483422
Wait, they aged him? What issue of what series? He was fun as a teen, but his spaglish sentences were fuckin annoying.
>>81484763
Well then I don't fuckin know
>>81484780
In New Avengers it's like 50/50 whites/blacks and Shang and Wong and one Mexican guy.
>>81484518
Is this the teenager or her adult successor?
>>81484387
There was and I liked him.
>>81483192
Yeah, Blue Marvel AND Monica? That's just overkill
>>81484681
She's white. Latin is her CULTURE, it is not a race.
>>81484832
Brazilian.
>>81484832
There are already more Hispanics than black people in America and by 2050 they'll rise to 30%, so will there still be this insistence on 50% black representation?
>>81484840
Such a good story arc
>>81484836
Teen. Adult one is back but evil.
>>81484870
Latin people are varying mixes of European/African and indigenous ancestries (and sometimes just 100% indigenous) so there's a racial component to it.
>>81483649
The difference is that the representation in media is usually true to demographics, while this one isn't
>>81484939
>just 100% indigenous
There is no such thing
>>81484832
So what? So fucking what? It's just some dudes getting together to punch bad guys, why does every single piece of media need to accurately reflect America's racial demographics, especially when in the real world, they never follow the demographics? You're trying to apply macro-level statistics at a personal level, how do you not realize what a colossal retard you are?
>>81484387
But White Tiger is hispanic.
And pete and shulk are white
>>81484993
Because it implies a selection bias, fuck if I know this is a.bait thread anyway
>>81484840
No, that's exactly what I'm talking about. I want a native American character who isn't decked out in head gear goes around wielding a tomahawk. I'm Blackfoot and I've never once stepped foot on a reservation. Why can't they just have a character who lives in the modern world, and lives a fairly normal life, but happens to be a native? Why does literally every single native American character have to be some spirit animal summoning, feather headed, axe tossing shaman/spirit warrior/medicine man. Just 'Paul Anglicization-of-hard-to-pronounce-name, mild mannered repair-man by day, super hero whose power has nothing to do with his heritage by night!'
God damn.
>>81485030
A selection bias? What the actual fuck? You don't audition or interview for the Avengers. When you get together with your friends and it doesn't match up with America's racial demographics, is that a selection bias?
>>81483933
Why are we assuming there isn't a levitating bouncy castle just below the bottom of the panel?
>>81485085
Dani Moonstar and American Eagle, friend
Somebody explain to me what happened here. I'm guessing this kid is some Franklin Richards type guy? How did he beat a Beyonder?
>>81485185
>bouncy castle
Now you've fucking done itbounce house
>>81485173
>he thinks we're talking in universe
>>81484994
>She Hulk
>white
are you blind or just fucking retarded?
>>81484982
Some tribes might be, but then they might not be considered "Latin" because there's no Spanish/Portuguese influence
>>81485085
In the comment I replied to, you seemed to say you WANTED a super-stereotypical character like that.
Anyway, there's Forge? He's Cheyenne but his mutant power is that he's great at inventing impossible shit. He even left his tribe because he disliked the mysticism and preferred science.
Has Thor ever been black? Would they go that far?
>>81485213
He exploded.
>>81485213
He's Starbrand and per Hickman's own description his power is supposed to be only planetary in scale.
He beat a Beyonder because by that point Hickman had already stopped giving a shit about his own story.
>>81485273
So writers have to follow American racial demographics exactly? They're not allowed to write who they want? Is a group of black people (and that's seriously a good chunk of the black Marvel heroes in the OP) really that terrifying to you?
>>81485212
I'm not sure you're understanding what I'm asking for here Whitey.
>>81484993
Because the only fucking reason they've been included is due to their under representation. Why would there be affirmative action among mutants/superheroes? Do you not see your cognitive dissonance?
>>81485317
>>81485334
So much for the hype of the Beyonders. These guys can apparently play with universes like toys and yet it takes a hundred of them to beat Thor and Hyperion.
>>81485341
I have no problem with the writers doing whatever they want; after all, no one's forcing me to buy the stuff.
But you'd have to be willfully blind not to realize the reason for that, what with Marvel's attempt to pander to progressives
>>81485360
more feets please.
>>81485300
It was a typo, looking back and reading my comment I realize that now.
And I thought they changed forge? I don't keep up with the X-Men but last I saw he looked like a white guy.
>>81485341
>So writers have to follow American racial demographics exactly? They're not allowed to write who they want?
Congrats, you've come full circle to the other side of the argument.
>>81485030
It's just...wow.
Like can't we have a team with mostly colored people on it every once in a while?
Seriously is that me being an asshole of a brown person because every once in a blue moon a team doesn't represent the racial split of one particular country and goes 'hey fuck it this one is mostly browns and blacks'?
Like I enjoy comics ive enjoyed them all my life and i dont hate that most teams are most of the time made up of mostly white people. I still identify with characters of any race. But jesus christ it was kinda cool to see someone go 'hey fuck it lets change it up this time' and have it be on a team that isn't a fucking harlem patrol hero group or african equivolent shown off for one issue. Its a headlining team that in this case is not mostly white.
But fucking hell thats too much. Like its really too fucking much for some people. The very idea that there are is this very slight shift in racial makeup in team bucks accounting for a super hero team not being mostly white is apparently an annoying step too far and shouldn't happen.
It isn't like most marvel heroes are black, or even that most marvel teams are mostly black, or even that most marvel teams are half minority. But that doesn't matter, any situation where that occurs is apparently a problem that should be stamped out before us dirty minorities ruin comic books for the larger white demographic.
Man i'm sorry but so called hardcore comic fans are just as bad as obnoxious bitchy SJW's just on the opposite end of the bullshit 'me me me i want it all pandering just to me' spectrum.
An entire childhood with most of the toys isn't enough because god forbid another kid gets one or two that aren't yours.
>>81485360
>tfw this is the only time dani shoots with her feet
>>81485427
I dunno, I don't read much X-stuff anymore either. Sometimes he looks Native, sometimes he looks whiter or more Hispanic. Although it was my impression that there's not a lot of you guys left with anything like pure Native ancestry.
>>81485441
>It's just... wow
Kill yourself
>>81485512
I guess that's fair. I'm only something like 3/5ths Native and something like 2/5th's Scottish. Even so the same could be said for blacks. Very few American Blacks are even remotely tied to their African roots. You can take a native African and stand them side to side with an American and there's no difficulty telling them apart.
>>81485644
don't reply to bait anon, it's not healthy
>>81485647
Kinda hard to be connected when slavers didn't keep records of where they took people from
>>81484889
for starters, hispanic is not a race, idiot
>>81485381
This one panel makes this look like the best fucking idea ever.
>>81485700
>anything i dont agree with is bait now
>>81485647
American blacks don't live on reservations that were created to stop African culture from going extinct, though. Plus American blacks don't really give a shit about African culture beyond some of the Kwanzaa types and "muh dreadlocks" people. There's this general attitude within and outside Native communities that their culture is on the verge of extinction and has to be protected and represented.
>>81485785
Can you fucking stop shitposting?
>>81485818
Explain how i'm shitposting in any way?
>>81485085
The complaint they get there then, is that they are erasing the character's native american identity or what have you.
>>81485747
>>81485792
I meant purely on a genetic level. I've seen people who are literally lighter than I am, but with the African facial features and hair and still pass as "black". you don't get that in Africa Proper.
>>81485840
Fuck. Off.
>>81485785
As a fellow shitskin, I'm gonna tell you to either lurk more or fuck off back to your tumblr blog. No one's going to take you seriously if you post like that.
>>81485891
Well yeah, but that's because nearly all African Americans have a white ancestor of some kind
>>81484634
Ultimates is fucking great if you like meta stuff. It explains the sliding timescale and retconning. Love it
>>81485891
That's less about genetics and more about history when having any amount of black ancestry made you black regardless of how white you looked. The whole "every drop counts" thing. It's carried over into the modern era. For the longest time I watched Parks and Rec thinking Rashida Jones was just a white girl with maybe a tan at best but then I learned her father is black so she's considered black too. And that idea still plays out in society and within the black community; I remember a while back there was some famous black guy who said his half-white child was mixed-race and not black, and some other famous black person replied "You're mixed-race until they call you nigger. Then you're black".
Whereas I don't think there's that kind of stereotype against having Native ancestry, which is why you get all these obviously white people bragging about being 1/32nd Cherokee or whatever.
>>81484668
This. Imagine if you had a comic set in Nigeria and most of the characters were white for some reason. You'd definitely think something was amiss.
>>81485173
Busiek had them do exactly that. That was why Triad was let onto the team. But he also made them go through the same thing with mutants. Also these decisions werent made by avengers but the government liason so the govt was pushing the diversity.
I wish this stuff happened still, a far better way to handle it than Jean just mind wiping people into being gay
>>81486178
Relax that keyboard rage, son
>>81485965
>>81486071
I'm not entirely sure what point I was even trying to make at this point. But yeah, I just want a character that is maybe just mentioned in passing to be native. I can see now why that's probably not going to happen though. Mostly I'm just mad that the blacks get so much screen time because they're the loudest minority when it comes to representation.
>>81484668
I disagree. Minorites aren't evenly distributed throughout the country. They tend to be clustered together.
Just think of this as the equivalent of harlem, or a Tyler Perry movie in the theater metroplex.
>>81484870
Dude. The idea of white hispanics makes racial bean counters and accountants heads explode.
>>81484889
Parse your sentence: Insistence from who?
>>81485292
Don't sweat it. The Gamma irradiated-American community is discriminated against more than the muties.
>>81483192
>one B-list team in an era where one of the mainline books was about a bunch of white guys (and T'challa) circle-jerking about how great they are
Although it's kind of funny that the current minoriteam is now the one circle-jerking about how great they are
>>81485958
>>81485909
In other words no actual explanation. just finger in ear lalalala. Figured as much.
>>81483192
Yeah, Deodato should have been fired and blacklisted from comics years ago. Land too
>>81485360
American Eagle is completely different now.
![2658823-letter[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Y1fnYcR.jpg "2658823-letter[1].jpg")
>>81485360
The only comic book that I've ever seen that even had a close description of modern native american life was Scalped. And that's hardboiled crime drama. Anything else?
Pic not quite related. It's Dani being something other than a traditional native american stereotype, joining the Norse Valkaries.
It's also useful to get chucklefucks who get too caught up in "cultural appropration" to divide by zero in their heads.
>>81486209
It's got to be either a troll or false flag.
>>81485379
Actually, I can imagine western government super teams having an explicit affirmative action policy.
I vaugely recall some of that sort of shit with Gyrinctch and the Avengers.
>>81487230
This is him now. His powers aren't derived from him being NA, they're (I think) from a chemical spill. He runs an auto shop somewhere down in Arizona, polices nearby areas and the Navajo reservation and tells whitey to fuck off a lot.
>>81484692
>>81486178
>>>/pol/
>>81483649
How do you not feel pandered to like a child? Like you understand this isn't cause they actually care right?
>>81487298
So... G-Force, or biker dude or both?
>>81487359
He's a biker dude.
>>81487298
He should team up with Red Wolf.
>>81487487
He should team up with Patriot.
Why black people get all the PC love? We have a lot of nerds in Mexico too.
>>81487631
I love Gamora!
>>Nobody here read Mighty Avengers
>>Makes a big shit storm over a book that's already over.
You fucking faggots.
>>81487358
This guy gets it.
>>81487525
I'm feeling some Marvel Knights action. American Eagle. Punisher, Ghost Rider, Blade. Maybe moon knight, or black widow. Guest appearances from Black Panther and the Skrull Kill Krew.
>>81487631
The book sold like crap if I recall.
weird
>>81483192
Oh look it's Avengers; Diversity Edition.
>>81485441
>Its just...wow.
Stopped reading right there tumblr.
>>81484784
>Mighty Avengers
>Captain America & the Mighty Avengers
>New Avengers
All by Al Ewing.
He's 18 in Mighty and 19 in New Avengers. He was also in Avengers Academy for a bit, but just as background wallpaper.
>>81483395
He's black Sentry but shit despite no Bendis fuckery.
>>81483395
>that wasn't a war hero
He fought in the Korean War.
>>81484832
And New Avengers doesn't take place in America, so what's your point? The team is led by a Brazilian for fucks sake. I don't see why American demographics should dictate how many non-whites are allowed on a team, especially when the team isn't even US-based.
>>81484433
Correct. It's Reed giving battle strats to Valeria. Both of whom are mildly autistic.
>>81484494
>White Tiger with a sword
>What?
That was probably just Deodatto being an idiot, but Ewing being the continuity obsessed nut he is had the Secret Wars tie-in for Mighty Avengers show White Tiger beat up a dude with a sword, pick it up, then go "Nice sword, this is mine now" like an hour before this scene happened.
>>81484565
This is from Hickman's New Avengers.
>>81483649
Except the vast majority of villains aren't bitches and minorishits.
>>81488830
we don't deserve Ewing
>>81485334
>He beat a Beyonder
But he didn't though.
>>81488863
After that Ultimates #2 storytime where everyone was throwing a shitfit because Ewing "blatantly retconned Galactus' origin" then proceeded to argue for half the thread about what Galactus' origin actually is with no one being able to agree, until someone posted the original Lee/Kirby origin and lo' and behold, it was the EXACT origin used by Ewing in the issue, I can pretty definitively say that no we do not.
>>81483192
>8 characters
>6 are black
Well I hope Tyrone feels less discriminated against finally. Marvel finally ended racism!
>>81483649
Could you be any less original? Also since "I know how they feel" now can I clamor on about how racist this is towards me and demand things? Do I get a special snowflake minority card to pull now?
>>81488861
On the flip side, the vast majority of heroes are white dudes
Also villains are always the cooler characters
>>81488945
White Tiger's Latina
>>81488945
>6 are black
4.5 are black. Spider-man and She-hulk are white. White Tiger is latina. Power Man is only half-black. Kaluu (asian) and Jessica Jones (white) were also on the team, but the former didn't agree with Cap's plan and the latter stayed behind to take care of the baby.
>>81487631
>Why black people get all the PC love?
Because white liberals love patting themselves on the back about how progressive they are for using their own personal black fictional characters as pets. Mexicans aren't PC enough while Indians are too PC. Blacks sit comfortably in the middle so they're used all the time. But what's funny is there's zero evidence that shows if you put more fictional black character in a comic then more blacks will start reading these comics.
It's all an endless cycle of self-masturbatory progressive kikeshit. Just like what Grant Morrison did with his Wonder Woman book.
>>81489020
>Power Man is only half-black
No such thing
>>81483192
>five black people
>one Indian
>one green person
>one spider person
Fucking diversity.
>>81489072
>Indian
I mean Latina. I'm retarded.
>>81489039
It really is the book that makes everyone mad
>>81488982
>On the flip side, the vast majority of heroes are white dudes
This isn't true. At least for Marvel these days. I'd say more than half of the heroes are female and the team books are filled with them and minorities. Yet you barely see any of that faggotry on the villain side. Still mostly straight, white guys.
This team doesn't even exist anymore yet /tv2/ is getting triggered by it because "t-too many blacks!" Y'all are fucking pathetic.
>>81489146
As it should. Plus a lot of us probably thought Grant was above that petty SJW bullshit. Yea we knew he was a liberal douchebag like the rest of them, but not tumblr-tier. And then he pulls this shit.
>>81488982
How many black villains are there? Manta, that one guy from the Wrecking Crew? Do Tombstone and Croc count despite not looking black?
>>81483192
It kinda feels like the only reaason Peter-Man's there is for the sake of diversity.
Which is fucking hilarious.
>>81489072
I'm so sick of Spider people getting shoehorned in all the time Fucking lolth!
>>81483192
This does not really look like diversity as much as it looks like segregation. Sticking all the black members off to their own "separate but equal" team is not how I would diversify things.
>>81489168
Really anon? Because last I checked Steve was young again and getting a series, Real Thor is coming back, Loki's getting another solo, Uncanny Avengers is all white people except Voodoo and Synapse, Bucky is leading the Thunderbolts, Star-Lord is leading two books, Spider-man is Spider-man, and Iron Man has like three books
>>81483332
He's yet another of many many Superman expys in Marvel. They probably made more than DC at this point.
He has an interesting origin at least but in practice he is another top tier flying brick.
>>81483192
So are they making Spiderman gay I say this cause it seems like they always make one guy gay and it's usually a white guy.
>>81489226
Your tears are delicious
As are tumblr's
>>81489234
Tombstone counts, but it's never really clear what race Croc is
And there's girl Beetle
>>81484387
That have not used him in a while but Puma was the go to "Indjun" guy in Marvel.
He only fought people on behalf of his reservation, or fought superheroes encroaching on it, or attacked things auctioning off some special native relic or artifact. Just anything remotely native american relates he was on top of.
>>81489352
And A-Force is entirely women, New Avengers is fags, minorities, girls, and Hawkeye. Ultimates is all minorities and one token white bitch. Whor as her own book, Captain Dindu still has his own book, Hulk is asian and has his own book. There's a billion different Spider-Men rip-offs running around now and they're either females or minorities.
How strong is white tiger suppose to be? Ewing had her style on all of the mighty avengers except Monica. She cut up Odinson but got slammed by Medusa.
>>81489413
Thanks, Goldstein. You truly are my greatest ally.
>>81489007
>>81489020
I thought White Tiger was pic related, my bad on that. But still, this is unnecessary and just stinks of liberal-sjw-pandering. And I don't need anyone to pander to my politics, the story should always come first over cultural/political fads.
I think it's bad for business too.
>>81489472
So?
>>81489513
It's one team of characters without solos
And it contains half the black people in the Marvel Universe
>>81489522
So I proved my point, you daffy cunt. The vast majority of Marvel's heroes these days are definitely NOT white guys.
>>81489226
He took a straight white male superhero and turned him into a tranny 10 years before it was cool. I get the impression that you've never actually read any Morrison comics and just know that he's popular on /co/ so now have to justify your meme-ing. Hell, he made Black President Superman years before the SJW meme started. He's been doing race/gender swaps and pushing liberal agendas since the fucking 80s, man. His Animal Man run, widely considered his best cape comic, ended with a literal Grant Morrison self-insert showing up to tell people that they should sign up for PETA while pushing environmentalism and animal rights.
>>81489513
The story does come first and since don't seem to even know which characters are in it I doubt you know the plot. You're just basing it off of the cast.
>>81489614
>I get the impression that you've never actually read any Morrison comics
Fuck off, faggot. I've read plenty of his comics, but I've stayed away from his goofier shit like The Filth and Doom Patrol. There's a difference between generic liberal douchebag writing and full blown SJW shit like we're seeing in Wonder Woman.
>>81489689
>I've stayed away from his goofier shit like The Filth and Doom Patrol
>not reading Doom Patrol
>actively staying away from Doom Patrol for being "goofy"
Oh, so you're not a shitposter from /tv/, you're just a pleb.
>>81489689
>like we're seeing in Wonder Woman
You haven't even read it. You just heard that Steve Trevor is black and got all triggered like the little bitch you are.
>>81489467
Croc's definitely black in nu52, we see him as a kid before he went full lizard.
>>81485085
Forge and Portal might be all you get.
>>81489815
Nice try, tumblr.
>>81489572
In April there are 27 solo titles starring white men
12 starring white women
10 starring a minority of any sort
And then 18 team books which yes, may skew slightly towards minorities and women
>>81483332
>>81483395
Try reading comic books.
>>81489689
>stayed away from his goofier shit like The Filth and Doom Patrol
Ahahahahahahahahahaha
>>81489689
anon
she literally tries to enslave Steve Trevor
>>81483332
A hypocrite against beings of alternate reality/timeline origin entering the 616 universe when he himself is a prime example of someone of an alternate reality/timeline origin.
>>81491636
Galactus called him out about that
well he called out the whole team for messing with stuff way beyond what they should, but he called out Blue Marvel for being a retcon
>>81484518
>power man if he is charged up
There is no history in the air to charge himself up with. Power Man is going to be nothing but tomato soup in the end.
>>81485441
>niggers
>deserving nice things
>>81484840
God the Kelly and Mankhe JLA run was so fucking good.
I actually like it more than Morrison's desu
>>81485213
The Ex Nihilos did something to the current space and made the Beyonders susceptible to their attacks.
>>81489468
Last I saw this dude was in M.O.D.O.K.'s 11.
>>81487418
Honestly don't know what that idiot Bullseye is thinking. American Eagle is durable and strong enough to take on War Machine and fight him to a standstill.
