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LET US READ THE BEST SILVER AGE STORY OF THEM ALL
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>>81448666
No thank you, Satan.
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>>81448666
I want to live in Miller's future where all the tv personalities and hot people have short hair.
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It is kind of terrifying how thinking about people laughing at the media politics this book portrayed when it came out

And then to look at the landscape now.
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>>81448666
>dat side cut
HE TRIED TO WARN US
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>the worst Miller story

No thanks, but go on so I can hide this thread.
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>>81448727
>It is kind of terrifying how thinking about people laughing at the media politics this book portrayed when it came out
Oh no, they were laughing at other things, pal.
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My name is Lewis Lovhaug and I disapprove this comic.
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This is one of the first comic books I ever read.

God, it fucking sucks.
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>>81448770
why is he so autistic?
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>>81448782
Same

Opposite
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>>81448737

The atom part was legitimately great and only good thing about this comic
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>>81448666
ASBAR storytime for best golden age story of them all when?
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>>81448813
>Captain Marvel
>The Question
>Hal

Also contenders I think
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>>81448782
What is bad about it.
>inb4 figures and faces are the most important part of graphic art
>inb4 the plot is too crazy
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>>81448826
I am not a Lee fan

>>81448813
It is a great tone setter for the brilliance of the story to follow
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>>81448838
The Best Barry Allen in DC comics.
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>>81448870
One of the most stylish versions of the costume too
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This is easily my favorite DC comics Event
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The book that more purely captures the feeling of looking through to a different distant insane world.
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>>81448870
Hey I'm Robin. But I'm a cat now with roller skates!
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>>81448826
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>>81448888

i hate this Flash costume
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>>81448847
>faces are the most important part of graphic art

This is /co/ most people base quality on whether or not they want to fuck the characters. It's why the most common complaint against Quietly is " potato face"
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Art is meh-tier, but the coloring is fucking atrocious in this book.
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>>81448978
I think the shorts may be pushing it, but the black with the yellow lightning is rather expressive.
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... is that Catwoman/Cheetah in roller-skates?
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>>81449003
I think you meant Groundbreaking and Ahead of its time.
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>>81449023
nah its Carrie Kelly
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isn't that thing with Miller and JrJr about the Joker supposed to come out soon?
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>>81449024
No, it's pretty awful.
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>>81449003
I think the problem is that Miller didn't have the ability to, or was too lazy to draw backgrounds a lot of the time, so you end up with these shitty all color backgrounds, which are never good, but they make the coloring look worse. If the scenes were composed with actual backgrounds and logical lighting and such it would be better
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I love this and ASBAR
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>>81449088
I think you are missing the right answer. He doesn't draw them when they aren't needed and does when he does.

The dayglo colors amplify it.
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>>81448847

Awful art. Like... Really really awful art.

Not even bothering to draw backgrounds awful.

Multiple Double splash pages for literally no reason with awful drawings.

The ugliset early 00's Photoshop filter gradients you've ever seen that have aged worse.

Terrible "throw every DC hero/villain shit at the wall and see what sticks" plot

M-muh 9/11!

Its completely inexcusably bad. The fact you unironically like it just shows people will seriously like shit to be a contrarian edge lord.

No, you don't really like the art you just want to be a special snowflake.
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Heh Holograms who would ever believe it.
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>>81449061
The Last Crusade, May 25th.
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>>81449161
Your assumption that people can not like a thing because you don't is really funny.
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That panel and the black and white to all those colors for the Question is amazing (also I saw something where people think he might be Jimmy Olsen)
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>>81449192

I like the implication people just like this to be edgy. real hardcore being a fan of a mainstream JLA story
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People are not true fans of Superheroics they are fans of boxes to put it in.

This book breaks those walls down and makes people upset
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>>81449141
Don't be a millerdrone dude. His art is definitely really good in this comic, I love the fights and I love the caricature and I love the talking heads and advertisements, but compared to DKR there is about 1% of the effort put into background work in this comic and you cannot tell me that is a purely artistic decision.
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>>81449256
Why?

The color work in this book is breathtaking and BLOWING IT OUT is in total contrast to Returns like a lot of this book.

It makes the most sense to be deliberate.
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At first I didn't like brute Lex but it's really grown on me

>>81449215

maybe the best page in the book senpai. a contender.
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>>81449255

i didn't make the connection before but this + Carrie's scooter and there's a real 4th World undercurrent going on
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There are no small gestures in this book you are either as Small as an Atom or Twice as Big as you can Imagine.
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>>81449161
So yes, figures and faces are the most important part of graphic art? Because the layouts and action in this book are still really solid. Agree on the backgrounds and am 50/50 on the coloring
>"throw every DC hero/villain shit at the wall and see what sticks" plot
>only 2 villains in the book both Superman related that have a history of joining forces
So yes also "The plot is too crazy"

>I don't like it so everyone who likes it is a contrarian edgelord
If I wanted to be a contrarian edgelord I would have skipped over this and started talking about Holy Terror
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>>81449288
Don't worry about it, people here would rather have illustrators than cartoonists making their comics
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>>81448956
I hate this page. Everything about it.
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The next 2 pages are the best 2 Barry Allen pages that exist.
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>>81448666
Still don't hate this book
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>>81449288
Because if he wanted to contrast the noir style he would use Kirby style backgrounds rather than fucking nothing.
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>>81449255

Who knew you could make people upset by doing a sequel to one of the best comics ever but make it look like shit.
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>>81449530
But that is Old

The Kirby Method is not to recreate what he did Anon. It is to peer into a world that looks like nothing else.

Is to create something new
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>>81449467
No I'd prefer a cartoonist doing the layouts, figures, faces, action and lettering, and an illustrator doing the background like in Cerebus. If you're not going to do backgrounds at least don't make them horrible monochromes that contrast with the coloring of the scene. I like this comic a lot by the way, I just don't like this one aspect of it
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>>81449530
>Kirby style backgrounds

Kirby did a bunch of flat color backgrounds in close ups. He went detail heavy in his splash and double page spreads
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>>81449405
>"he crosses the line"
>kills someone
>Batman kills someone in the last issue

Its OK if Bruce does it!
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>>81449570
> to create something new

Don't say those words around Marvel/DC
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>>81449570
But lack of backgrounds is not new or good
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>>81449639
That isn't what I am saying.

You keep singling out a piece of the whole and treating it like it is the whole.
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>>81449638
This book was when it was coming out something that looks like nothing had ever looked before.
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>>81449626
He listens to the young
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>>81449454
>>81449470
Amazing work here. Two whole pages. Just look at the story being told. Fantastic stuff.
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>>81449655
But I don't treat it like it is the whole, I said I like the comic and the art, I just don't like the lack of backgrounds.
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The best Wonder Woman has ever looked.
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I always liked TDKSA. It's fucking awful but incredibly entertaining. Everything in it is insane and there is some genuinely good stuff sprinkled in.

Frank Miller is great. Even if some of his books are bad, they're never boring.
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>>81449470
Why can't I hold all these filters?
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>>81449717
I think the choice of when to have them or when to use solid effects or filters contributes to the art as a whole.

You liking the art is you liking how the lack/backgrounds play with it.
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>>81449723
Okay, now you're just trolling.
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>>81449769
that costume is INCREDIBLE
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>>81449723
No I like this one piece Miller and Terry Austin did for what I assume was a failed pitch, I'll post after the storytime
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>>81449723

>cums so hard she causes earthquakes and tsunamis

How many people did her and supes kill with their super fucking?
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>>81449754
And I think that they don't use them nearly enough, and that I like the art in spite of the backgrounds and wonky coloring in some areas.
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>>81449626
He doesn't kill anyone, he just doesn't save him.
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>>81449795
Now really, but alright
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>>81449024
You can defend this book all you want, there are parts that work, but Varley's coloring was out of control in parts.

She was over experimenting with the digital coloring, which granted wasn't uncommon for the era with alot of art, but the shitty photoshop filters and pixelization ruins a good deal of the book.
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>>81449688
>Hal Jordan was the shit!
>I mean that in a good way!
Good to know ol' Frank is keeping up with the lingo of the times.
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>>81450000
You are describing exactly what I like about it.
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>>81449985
Giant.
Green.
Kryptonite.
Boxing Gloves.

This book is perfect.
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>>81450000
Quads for truth.
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>>81450076
This must be the worst page so far art-wise.
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>>81450070
>posting images in a storytime

I know you feel like you simply HAD to post a dubsman reaction image to a get, but come on man
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>>81450029
>I like because its bad

There no accounting for taste.
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>>81449192
I do say I really like this version of Lex for some reason, I don't think I've ever seen someone do a similar version. It's like if Lex ends up aging the same way Marlon Brando did.
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>>81450143
The things you post can be taken as both a negative and a positive.

Going to far with filters and insane coloring can be both a positive and negative depending on who is looking at it.
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>>81450114
See this is where I know a lot of people who criticize this book are retarded, this portion of the comic is shitting on Liefield style oversexualized art and anti hero storytelling ("Are they Superheroes or Assholes!?"), that the only reason people buy that garbage is because they're lonely permavirgins looking for a power and wank fantasy.
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>>81450263
The bottom panel of this page is quite possibly my favorite Batman panel of them all.
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>>81450219
Which one is this power fantasy or wank material?
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>>81450144
>>81450179
>>81450200
6 splash pages of amazing storytelling!

A true master of structure at work
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>>81450219
That doesn't explain why two thirds of the pages look like rough sketches that accidentally got sent out for coloring before they could be cleaned up. I know neat and tidy has never been a Frank Miller thing, but fuck if these don't look just plain sloppy.
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>>81449255
I hated the Batboy costume designs.
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>>81450297
1) That really doesn't look that bad to me, I thought for sure you were talking about the broken spine women
2) while I'm not up to date on my early 2000s right wing political talk show hosts, given the caricature he uses in this book that is almost certainly a caricature of someone on tv
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>>81450325
Simplified style due to Miller wanting to cut loose and have fun. Which also makes it the perfect reaction to DKR
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>>81450200
I suppose nobody died here right? Of course not.
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>>81450000
Old comics were colored in bright, bold colors, usually by people with little to no art training or experience. Women who were looking for a quick job where usually hired. They were told to use bright colors hat'd reproduce easily and colors that'd separate figures and objects easily.
That's what Miller told Varley to do, basically. color it as if an old school colorist was given access to photoshop. Slather it with loud colors and textures and junk.
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>>81450362
Of course people will die.
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>>81450314
the first one is bad, the second one not great but excusable, however the third one is pretty awesome
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>>81450359
>caricature of someone on tv
Someone who smeared blueberry all over his face?
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>>81450405
Coloring, not Miller.
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>>81450367
Make it look like nothing on the shelves next to it. Make it look like another world just beyond your fingers.
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He gets rejuvenated and his costume reverts to an older era
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>>81450361
>Miller wanting to cut loose and have fun
He was lazy. Jesus fuck, Anon, how autistic can you get?
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>>81450475
You can't seem to see something as being more simplistic as anything other than a negative can you?
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>>81449137
I'm ashamed to admit that it took me until the entire house painted in yellow to realize it was parody
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>>81449215
not to be edgy, but this page makes me uncomfortable.

>windows 10
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>>81450276
>The bottom panel of this page is quite possibly my favorite Batman panel of them all.
Right there with you on that one.

"Striking terror. Best part of the job."
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>>81450475
>Jesus fuck, Anon, how autistic can you get?

A great way to get most people to completely dismiss you as just another impotent shitposter is to spout buzzwords. Keep it up! Here's the (You) that you so desperately crave. Maybe next time, try telling him to return to reddit for liking things, or if he does't share your political views, call him a cuck! If need any other pointers feel free to ask.
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>>81450381
It's pages like this that make me despise Superman/Wonder Woman shippers

"They're so alike!" and "It's so romantic!" is all just a smoke screen for ME WANT SNU SNU
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>>81450505
>simplistic
There are good and bad ways to simplify your art.
It looks like Miller just winged this entire book without drawing any guidelines.
That's as lazy as an artist can get.
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>>81450606
We are just going to go around in circles then.

I don't like it therefore it is lazy, I like it therefore it is deliberate.
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>>81449723
>>81449769
I do like how tribal her outfit looked here. Imo it really sells the idea that this is a out of time warrior that spent most of her life on a segregated magic island

But then again I'm barely familiar Wonder Woman's history so maybe my opinion is shit
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>>81450546

>probably killed thousands by fugging
>"I'm pregnant again"

It doesn't work like that m8
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>>81450593
Western "parody" of manga style will never stop being Maximum Cringe
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Best Plastic Man coming through.
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>>81450652
>Five years
That would mean this happened before the Dark Knight Returns.
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>>81450675
exactly what he is going for in that panel.
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>>81450586

Spoken like a true cuck
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>>81450703
Oh for fuck's sake, just stop it already.
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>>81450631
>>81450652
I've always loved these pages.
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>>81450729
You don't think Frank Miller knows the difference when it comes to that stuff?

Frank Miller who is one of the biggest reasons that stuff came to this side of the world at all.
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>>81450741
Yeah, this still makes me butthurt
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>>81450367
There's a way to do bright vivid colors but they should've done it right. You can look at where they used photoshop to take shortcuts. Hell I could recreate some of it in like 30 minutes. I can tell where they used the stroke tool to add outlines to objects and it causes a gross jagged outline. It's not well done.
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>>81450675
Eh it's literally one panel, if it had been an extended character it'd really be bad
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>>81450741
This is kinda one of my favorite pages ever. It manages a Jump Scare in a comic.
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>>81450051
Makes me think of how big cosplay/cosplay boudoir has gotten in the last few years.
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Holyshit this art is fugly.
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Thanks OP! I've never read this or TDKR. If someone could be so kind to storytime 3 and the tie in up to this point I'd greatly appreciate it.
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People like to jump on this book because once they disagree with it they dismiss it as stupid.

It is too easy a dismissal.
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>>81450819
I won't be doing that, not even gonna read that thing.
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I just noticed first a Kirby character, second a Ditko one.
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Love J'onn as this barkeep from a detective novel.
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>>81449188
that book was supposed to be out in feb, it keeps getting pushed back :/
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One of the strongest themes throughout this book is the Youth taking over (which is funny seeing Miller respond to something like Occupy)
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>>81451098
>which is funny seeing Miller respond to something like Occupy
I assume he was not a fan?
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Thanks for posting, HL

I definitely love DKSA and I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets, but you can't deny it's flawed.

I genuinely love Miller's pencilling, but the cheap gradient backgrounds are such garbage. Don't give me that "it was early experimentation with digital coloring" nonsense.
It looked like shit in 2002 and it looks even worse now.
Other than that I'm pretty much onboard for everything else. People sometimes forget that there's some really fucked up shit in this. Just because it isn't colored as "dark and gritty" as DKR doesn't mean there aren't plenty of dark moments. Like that orphanage that was conducting genetic experiments. Or Captain Marvel's last hurrah.
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>>81451146
putting it lightly

>>81451149
I don't understand why it is so hard to accept that people can accept the bold garish things about this book as positives.
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>>81451146
He viewed it as being fairly ineffectual, and twentysomething hipsters at the time jumped down his throat.
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>>81451146
hoo boy you could say that.

>Everybody's been too damn polite about this nonsense:

>The "Occupy" movement, whether displaying itself on Wall Street or in the streets of Oakland (which has, with unspeakable cowardice, embraced it) is anything but an exercise of our blessed First Amendment. "Occupy" is nothing but a pack of louts, thieves, and rapists, an unruly mob, fed by Woodstock-era nostalgia and putrid false righteousness. These clowns can do nothing but harm America.

>"Occupy" is nothing short of a clumsy, poorly-expressed attempt at anarchy, to the extent that the "movement" – HAH! Some "movement", except if the word "bowel" is attached - is anything more than an ugly fashion statement by a bunch of iPhone, iPad wielding spoiled brats who should stop getting in the way of working people and find jobs for themselves.

>This is no popular uprising. This is garbage. And goodness knows they're spewing their garbage – both politically and physically – every which way they can find.

>Wake up, pond scum. America is at war against a ruthless enemy.

>Maybe, between bouts of self-pity and all the other tasty tidbits of narcissism you've been served up in your sheltered, comfy little worlds, you've heard terms like al-Qaeda and Islamicism.

>And this enemy of mine - not of yours, apparently - must be getting a dark chuckle, if not an outright horselaugh - out of your vain, childish, self-destructive spectacle.

>In the name of decency, go home to your parents, you losers. Go back to your mommas' basements and play with your Lords Of Warcraft.

>Or better yet, enlist for the real thing. Maybe our military could whip some of you into shape.

>They might not let you babies keep your iPhones, though. Try to soldier on.

>Schmucks.

>FM


I generally hated the OWS movement as well but apparently Frank was unable to voice his opinion on it without spewing about his hateboner for radical Islam.
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You can think it is ironic or trolling or what have you.

This stuff looks AWESOME
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>>81451188
>I don't understand why it is so hard to accept that people can accept the bold garish things about this book as positives.

I absolutely understand what Miller was doing. He really grew to despise the "dark & gritty" label being thrown his way even a few years after TKDR.
I don't mind the bright, vibrant colors. I just singled out the gradient backgrounds because they look like shit.
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>>81451261
Oh dear
He certainly is intense
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>>81451261
Goddamn, he's as intense as his writing. Bless that man's heart. We need more people like him
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>>81451289
>This stuff looks AWESOME
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I love the idea that Hal just said Fuck It I am out and got an alien wife.
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>>81451261

>you can't have a view/voice in this completely unrelated matter because Islam and terrorists!
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>>81451389
He truly is the hero of /co/.
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The best 3 pages of Captain Marvel that exist.
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>>81451372
>Reaction images during story time

C'mon anon. I know you can express your opinion without resorting to such behavior.
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>>81451289
Bats? Yeah
The gradient background? God, no
And I like the book.
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>>81451389
I always liked the fact that this Bats still ultimately respects this Hal, because...well they definitely didn't get along too well in the early days.
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>>81451460
Fuck, this still gets me.
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>>81450784
>Frank Miller who is one of the biggest reasons that stuff came to this side of the world at all.

Frank Miller is not responsible for manga coming to America or the influence of manga in American comics
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>>81451421
>>81451441
>>81451460
>>81451478
best Captain Marvel scene
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>>81451554
He is a big chunk of it.
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>>81451441
>Where's a wish go? Where's a dream go when you wake up and you can't remember it? Nowhere.


Its seems so simple, yet I can remember even on my first reading years ago I put the comic down for a second and went "Woah. Frank's still got it."
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>>81451273
trump?
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You can see the book almost go off the rails at this moment.
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>>81450991
God, this comic made me pick up superheroes again.
It's a satire/parody that still manages to have a lot of heart. Captain Marvel is just wonderful in this.
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We 9/11 now
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>>81451681
It understand that these things are not fragile. You can really play hard with them as it were.
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>>81451662

>only now going off the rails

U wot
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>>81451580
What is wrong with your brain?
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>>81451662
>at this moment
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>>81448727
>political landscape is that of a police state
My country was an actual dictatorship 30 years ago, you know little.
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Ahh the Green Arrow / Question stuff in this chapter.
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>>81451840
The way I see it, the comic has rails, they're just like Rollercoaster rails instead of regular train rails
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>>81449215
Dio?
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>>81451752
If you honestly believe Frank Miller doesn't hold a very large place in showing artists that you can take influences from all over the world and incorporate it into your work.

I don't know what to tell you.
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>>81451857
You see this shit? This is why people hate the art in this book.
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>>81451944

Didn't you know? You aren't allowed to criticize or dislike this art. Its bad on purpose and thats why it's good
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>>81452009
It's the ultimate "I was just pretending to be retarded" defense.
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>>81452005
Plastic Man won't be this good again until the Injustice Annual.
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>>81452009
People are allowed to dislike and criticize anything anon, then we disagree and have a conversation about it.

We still may disagree at the end but that is okay too.
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I wasn't crazy about it at first but now love it. It's so Anti House Style and trying to do new things.
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>>81452083
I think this is really close in time to the Kelly/Mahkne stuff
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>>81451857
>“I'm no Ayn Rander! She didn't go nearly far enough!”

I love that Ollie and Vic are almost on the verge of killing each other the entire time.

Until Ollie saves Vic's life. And then they pick right up where they left off.

If you were to describe the depiction of these two characters using a present day lens, you could say

>Green Arrow is a strawman of Bernie voters
>Question is a strawman of Trump voters
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Everyone get in place for the big Justice League finale.
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>>81452131
No, no you really can't.
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>>81449161

It's basically Miller doing 90s Liefield art. Which is pretty rad.
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>>81452144
>>81452018
I roll my eyes every time someone tries to say Superman is killing in this book when it explicitly shows them pulling a GI Joe with everyone parachuting out of their respective vehicles.
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Love this page.
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>>81452250

This and the Wonder Supes sex and Marvels death are just epic
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I love TDKR, but TDKSA is some serious garbage. But at least it's garbage with personality.
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>>81452186
Intentional shit is still shit.
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>>81452169
Oh man, how intimidating. He let himself get caught. What a way to build up Lex as a threatening villain. Definitely not a complete joke.
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>>81451261
>Schmucks.
I can't help but be charmed by this man.
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>>81452291
Don't forget Hawkboy
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>That last panel
>That laugh
>STRIKING TERROR

YES
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>>81452169
>converse
Makes me laugh every time
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Hal Jordan time to Shine
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Everyone looks like they're dying or uncomfortable in this comic...
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>>81452403
>side note: Catholics don't believe in the Rapture. That's a protestant/Pentecostal thing.
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If you had any doubts that Barry Allen was the best.
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>>81449161
Jim lee cant draw everything bro
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This is a really good page at what this book is about in general
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>>81452494
How imagine Lex here being played by Eisenberg
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>>81452527
With this one
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>>81451365
>>81451389
I love this take on Hal so much
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>>81452476
>Hal could stay longer and help dismantle the oppressive government with minimal casualties and destruction BUT he's gotta head home because his alien wife is cooking spaceburgers

100% in character
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>>81452521
I think TDKSA looks like shit and I also dislike Jim Lee.
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>>81452451
>>81452476
Fuck yes
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>>81452476
>>81452451
Aww yea.
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>>81452527
H A W K B O Y
A
W
K
B
O
Y
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Gotta say that the art has improved in the third book somewhat but the coloring is still shit.
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>>81452521
>disliking this shit means you must like generic shit!
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>>81452570

I love this Supergirl SO MUCH
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>>81452494
Still one of my favorite pages.
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>>81452552
He didn't have to do shit to begin with, it's not like he lives on Earth anymore

He is just a nice omnipotent being who's not into politics
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The grid has returned more suffocating than it was in the past.
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>>81452587
>I want you inside me
ok.jpg
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>>81452646
I'm not complaining at all. He probably had to pick up space dino food for his little pet space dinos on his way back home too
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>>81452521
>Jim lee cant draw everything bro

Somebody who still could draw should have.

Compare this to DKR. Frank Miller had a seizure or something, and he lost his ability to draw. He should have picked someone else to do the art.
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>>81452587
>I want you inside me
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A little comedy left right before the end.
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>>81452476
I don't understand what he just did.
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>>81452733
Yes, this reveal is still stupid.
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So why did Miller choose to portray Robin as so fucked up
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This page is really good.
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Why is Bruce such a dick to Robin?
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And in case you needed the point and theme of this book summed up.
That is all Folks!
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>>81452549

So Batman's OK with murder?
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>>81452803
Wow. They dealt with that rather quickly. And Bruce couldn't give less of a shit.
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>>81452858
>>81452894
We are told but not shown.
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>>81452858
>>81452894
Imagine ASBAR Dick as an adult

That's why
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I was always told this books isn't as bad as everyone remembers.

Reading it for the second time, it's exactly as bad as the first time I read it.
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>>81452913
Gotta get edgier.
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>>81452913
As long as somebody else does it.
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>>81452913
He is okay with the young taking over the world.
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>>81452936
Except we are, it's just in a different book.
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>>81452939
I never read ASBAR.
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>>81452978
At the point of this being published.
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>>81452939
Bruce really fucked him up and then discarded him.

Something something deconstructing the "Batman creates most of his villains" trope something something parody of Batman/Robin are gay jokes


To be frank it was always clear that this Batman was crazier than most. But dammit, he also had some fucking fun
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Fuck the haters this is one of the best examples of Superheroes.

It is big, loud, all over the place and stupid. Exactly what they should be.
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>>81452899

>back when I was old

So he's no longer old? What? What the fuck is going on?
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>>81453328
>But I was so much older than, I'm younger than that now
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>>81453328
Superhero reader takes something to literally, news at 11.
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>>81452894
In universe explanation is ASBAR, but I don't think Miller said why he chose do it in the first place when he could've done literally anything else.

>>81452928
>ruin kid's life and him in general
>get rid of him
>replace him
>not give a fuck when you kill him later
No wonder people don't want this or ASBAR associated with Miller's other works.
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>>81453276
>It is big, loud, all over the place and stupid. Exactly what they should be.

There's nothing wrong at all with embracing the bombastic side of cape comics, but don't go spouting nonsense now.

Although DK2 was refreshing because it had even MORE political commentary than its predecessor, while simultaneously taking itself waay less seriously
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>>81452928
How do people not notice Bats is crying in the last panel there? >>81452803
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>>81448935
what is it with guys over 30 always going "young enough to be my daughter..." when a young girl in tight clothes show up?
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>>81452928

He does care. He pretends not to because they are fighting but he literally says "you're breaking my heart"
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>>81453381
You could have explained what it meant because its not very clear to me. Or you can just be condescending of course.
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>>81449141
>News in the nude
holy shit, right i the fetish. All I need now is a news in the nude scene with bukkake and I'll be full mast
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>>81453695
Comes off as sarcasm to me.
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>>81448727

I like the oversexualized investment bank advert.
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>>81454658
I like it too, if you know what I mean.
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>>81454543
Yeah it comes off more as Bruce trying to make Dick angry
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>>81453029
You need to, it's a wild ride.
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>>81452169
Why is that gorilla wearing converse shoes?
>>
curiosity bump
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>>81451902
Yoi do realize anime and manga had been heavily culturally impacting the U.S. since the early 90s if not before, right?
Frank Miller didn't have SHIT to do with that
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>>81462688

when do you think Miller started in comics?
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>>81448947
>>81448935
whoever did this is a god
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>>81462946
Keep your fetishe to yourself
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>>81452845
He God Nigga
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>>81462723
Are you actually fucking retarded or am I being trolled
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>>81448612
What is this shit?
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>>81452710
>>81452733
Okay but has Miller ever said why did this in the first place?
I'm curious to know his thought process behind it.
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>>81452476
I love that he blows a kiss completely with little heart construct
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>>81463572
Answer the question.
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>>81451389
Usagi yojimbo lizards?
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>>81453522
Because of bad coloring? I couldn't tell he was crying on first glance.
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>>81466334
Yeah it's a white line and the rest of the coloring is so shit, and I can believe Batman being not regretful at all since he's an ass for the rest of the comic
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>>81451612
:'(
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>>81452005
Somebody post Reed trying to turn into a bike
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>>81449173
>>81449192
OHMYGOD THAT LEX!

I noticed people have humongous hands in this comic, but he's got freakin;' foam fingers!
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>>81468030
>but he's got freakin;' foam fingers!

He does have high blood pressure.
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So did Miller get lazy or is he completely unable to draw like he used to anymore?
Is it because of his deteriorating health?
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>>81452324
Was getting caught a part of his plan?
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>>81468434
That's what the anon said, yes
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>>81451441
Am I the only one that couldn't help think of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU7Ga7qTLDU
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>>81449487
>>81449506
You see, this is why I can't be down with that comic that says they should attach Superman to a power generator and guilt him into toiling away for the rest of his life.

Because that is fucked.

>>81449985
>>81450006
>>81450029
Gauntlets > Spear

At least, in terms of coolness factor.

>>81450725
>>81450703
>>81450685
This comic made me realise just how powerful Plastic Man was.

>>81450865
I know Frank gets a lot of flack for supposedly hating on Supes, but this is pure 100% Clark Kent right here.

>>81451478
>>81451460
>>81451441
Based Cap/Billy.

>>81452451
>>81452476
Why is he so goddamn weak in The Master Race?
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>>81469602
>Why is he so goddamn weak in The Master Race?

Well, to be fair he had three kryptonian women who told him they wanted to be his waifus. He got a bit confounded and they cut his hand off. Could happen to anyone really.
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>>81449388
damnit miller you didn't give the nosebleed money shot
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Thanks for the read, OP.
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>>81448870

this is so silly it hurts. got to love it.

If they deliberately made it as silver age as possible, they're very smart
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>>81450124

>"they make me feel fat"

Frank must've had some kind of future vision when he made this, because it really describes well the lards among SJWs who use "political correctness" and "slut shaming" because they envy the girls who are in much better shape.
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>>81450612

That thing looks like something straight out of "Bucky O' Hare & The Toad Wars"
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>>81453695
Bruce is mocking him there.

You can interpret it as Bruce trying to make him angry or something, what with might be tears after Dick's dead, but Bruce is basically insulting him and mocking him until he dies.
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>>81449506
Okay I'm out.
I looked past the dumb writing and the art that manages to make Humberto ramos look good, but fucking flash capri's? No thank you.
I'm glad you guys can look past this steaming horseshit and still enjoy it. Good for you.
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>>81452231

>third panel
....senator Armstrong, is that you???
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>>81449215
WRYYY
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>>81477013
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>>81448612
Why are you posting this crap? Mark Millar is a hack just like Morrison.
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>>81479123
>Mark Millar
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>>81479259
What if Mark Millar and Frank Miller combined to make Frank Millar or Mark Miller?
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>>81463572
OP is a retard
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>>81474838
Those are shorts. Capris go partway down the calf..
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>>81454543
It's a typical Millerism, he says something that is typically sarcastic but actually isn't

"i believe you"
"sure you do"
"youre killing me" (a reverse reverse millerism)
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>>81479259
A common and understandable mistake
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