Has Alan Moore's body of work stood the test of time?
>>81356892
Most of it has, yes.
>>81356892
Unfortunately for him, yes
I don't think his body works or can stand at all.
Has he ever had an original idea?
Well, Watchmen has, in my opinion.
>>81356892
Oh god yeah. Very little of any of his stuff feels stale to me even now.
I can go back and read watchmen, swamp thing, top 10, from hell, league of extraordinary gentlemen, promethea, tom strong, Supreme (god i love his supreme), v for vendetta, miracleman. Honestly i cant think of any of the shit hes written that ive read that i cant go back and read and it still feels fresh and unique or at the very least enjoyable to read.
>>81357723
He's had plenty. And hes taken derivative ones like supreme and turned them into amazing shit.
Not to mention Top 10 might be one of the most original idea's ive ever seen in comic book form.
>>81357723
Well, yeah. Even in comics he didn't create he brought some very original ideas. Like Swamp Thing being some entity that merely believes it's Allec Holland. Or a Green Lantern from a species who has no sight, which means they don't know about colors and had to have the GL oath rewritten to suit their particular biology.
Alot of people use the term overrated. and even on writers I like it is often a term that fits. I love Grant Morrison but he is at times overrated, same with Frank miller, or Neil Gaiman.
But Alan Moore I think is not overrated. That man has a brilliant strange mind and writes amazing fucking comic books. Furthermore he shows why certain stories make sense AS comic books (i feel the other guys i mentioned do this at times but not with the same nuance as Moore). Theres a reason Watchmen can be almost a one to one shot for shot adaptation for the most part and still seem to utterly miss the point. And fucking forget V for Vendetta. But his comics just make sense AS comics.
Though holy shit would I love his swamp thing stories adapted into a dark mature animated series with rotoscoped animation ralph bakshi style. which noone else wants and will never be.
his underground early stuff, anon e mouse, st pancras panda etc holds up well and got reprinted in shelton's rip off comix
>>81359957
Top Ten is nothing but references
his droid era is recognized as some of tharg's best
>>81356892
Every bit of cape work he's done is superior to any modern work, in themes, scientific interest, and sheer wit.
I can't say I like the man, though.
v for vendetta is a global meme (although the visual mask credit belongs to artist david lloyd), that has some sort of link to an image board on the internet....
the bojeffries saga (and earlier underground work) shows that despite certain opinions he does actually possess a sense of humour
from hell....
>>81356892
Yeah, but I hate how annoying his fans can be.
Yeap they're timeless
watchmen.
>>81356892
Well rape is pretty timeless
>>81356892
nah, most of them are really dated in terms of politics and opinions
>>81360052
>Or a Green Lantern from a species who has no sight, which means they don't know about colors and had to have the GL oath rewritten to suit their particular biology.
When was that? The only Moore GL I'm aware of is Medphyl
versatile enough to interpret the work of others
Alan Moore is one of if not THE worst comic book writers of all time.
inventive
>>81361277
I find no fan base more annoying than people who bitch about how annoying fan bases are.
Because at least the fan base is positive about something.
>>81361365
So are Dostoevsky's and his work stands the test of time.
and thompsonesquelly weird!
>>81361065
God, why hasn't THIS series been recolored?
>>81356892
He hates it, but it sure has.
>>81361717
>implying
his works are irrelevant outside lit hist
>>81362201
Recolored comics are a crime against humanity. Kill yourself.
>>81362442
V for Vendetta was originally black and white
Checkmate
>>81362442
Honestly V For Vendetta could use a reprinting on modern magazine paper.
Hasn't he gone on record saying that he regrets writing Watchmen?
>>81362309
pass
>>81362653
in so much as it spurred on the whole dark and gritty phase comics went through, hence why he would write more fanciful stuff like Supreme
Honestly I think V For Vendetta and From Hell are his best books.
>>81357723
He created blackest night event. You should heck out his single issues at DC. He was creative af.
>>81363056
Alan Moore did not create Blackest Night
>>81361738
did gaiman write this? it sounds like gaiman
>>81363263
Read his tales of green lantern corps. He created the prophecy of blackest night and Sodam Yat.
What are the chances of Moore working for Marvel?
>>81361337
How did criminals even stand him?
>>81363370
He hates Marvel more than DC, and he didn't even work for their main imprint.
>>81359898
killing joke
>>81361386
Short storytime to answer your question.
>>81363809
>>81363820
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>>81363839
Finis
>>81363809
Poor Katma :(
>>81356892
Most of it, yes.
His later stuff was garbage to begin with, so it's hard to say if it "stood" any test at all.
>>81356892
still far the best comic writer out there
From Hell, Watchmen, V for Vendetta and his run on Swamp Thing are the best comics ever published
Providence is better than whatever your favourite ongoing is.
lemme test something
*ahem*
Ewing
Where does everyone put Miracleman in terms of Moore's work?
>>81363595
Maybe if you read the reprint. Original still holds the test of time imho
>>81363980
I liked it more than Watchmen
there I said it.
But I think I'm a rare breed since my fav of his it's Promethea.
>>81363980
At the top IMO.
>>81363980
bottom draw, with the socks and belts
Am I the only one that thinks Alan Moore is a fucking no fun allowed hack?
His "deconstruction" of the cape shit he despises so much directly led to the current DCEU. What Ever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow was garbage as well.
>>81363486
>He hates Marvel more than DC,
How come?
>>81364044
You're probably not the only one who thinks that.
>>81364044
>Am I the only one that thinks Alan Moore is a fucking no fun allowed hack?
No. But you and others should read more of his works and try to seperate his works from what they influenced.
>>81364074
Marvel still has fun
>>81364111
I fucking hate people like you so much, you are scum. The lowest form of scum. Whenever a group or otherwise public discussion is taking place and somebody says "am I the only one", obviously they do not mean "in the fucking world". I hope you fucking choke and die on your literalness you human filth.
>>81364119
I have read his works as people have not stopped recommending them and they all, every single one of them, come off as the pretentious scrawlings of a man that hates the industry he is a part of but is too weak and cowardly to break away.
Am I the only one who thinks this >>81364139 is fucking no fun allowed hack?
>>81361337
If I were ever to say a comic book was perfect, this one it would be.
>>81364139
if you say 'am I the only one' you deserve everything you get. You louse. You human flea.
>>81364215
Fuck off, if you take everything literally you deserve everything you have coming to you. I hope you claim you raped somebody in your favourite video game Call of Duty and then get arrested for rape.
>>81364192
I fucking hate people like you so much, you are scum. The lowest form of scum. Whenever a group or otherwise public discussion is taking place and somebody says "am I the only one", obviously they are not "the only one". I hope you fucking choke and die on your literalness you human filth.
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>>81362746
And mange to sneak a rape in there.
>>81364156
You clearly haven't since you seem to think that he hates the industry he's in. Unless of course you mean interviews he does when you say works instead of comics he's written. Besides for someone "too weak and cowardly to break away." he sure managed to break away from the big two easily. He left DC after a television studio doing a soccer mom story on Elecktra Assassin caused a minor censorship scare at DC and Marvel in the 90s and he's managed to never work for them again.
>>81364226
I don't play CoD and I never use the word rape in vain. You shaved ferret, you infected molerat.
>>81362984
Saga of Swamp Thing and Marvelman.
>>81362984
Saga of Swamp Thing and Marvelman.
>>81364236
>>81364265
So now all you can do is resort to name calling because everything I said was spot on. You are a pustulant boil on the buttock of this board and you have my pity.
There are multiple periods of his work:
1. The british era (V for Vendetta, Miracleman, Halo Jones, Captain Britain etc). All of it is pretty good, great even but it's like ... recommended if you want to read more Alan Moore, not really his top of the line comics or the greatest british comics or something like that.
2. Classic era at DC (Swamp Thing, Watchmen, takes on a few classic superheroes) which is one of the best things ever, especially for capecomics.
3. Edgy hipster 90s works - almost everything from Image is shit, except Supreme which is largely okay but still pretty bad (mostly because of the xtreme 90s art). From Hell counts here and that one is probably his best work of all time, but it's closer to eras 1 and 2
4. Hipster millenial era at ABC comics (Top Ten, League, Promethea, Tom Strong) all of it is good but massively overrated. This is the era where he starts quoting himself too much, you can feel the smugness in his writing, the constant references and blatant hypocrisy, the sameness and so on. But they're still great worthwhile reads, especially because of the art which is great in all of them.
5. The stuff since mid 00s, absolute annoying horseshit. Only thing decent is that part he wrote for Crossed. Honestly don't even bother unless you're a really great fan of everything else he ever did.
>>81364253
damn it, what is Moore's obsession with rape?
Is there even ONE story of his that doesn't have some form of rape in there?
>>81363809
>Bill Wllingham
Very nice. He worked with some of the best artists.
>>81364315
>damn it, what is Moore's obsession with rape?
Just look at him. Look at that picture of him in the OP. That is a man who was born to rape, and robbed of his legal right as a member of the human race to go on a raping spree he turned to ink and paper.
>>81364315
like 95%
>>81356892
It didn't even stand the test of five minutes. Alan Moore's the most overrated writer who doesn't work for Jezebel.com alive.
>>81363980
Number 1 for me, its a crazy wild ride
>>81364304
Are people not liking Providence?
>>81364304
Crossed wasn't even decent, it was just slightly less shit than his other shit at the time
>>81364304
>V for Vendetta, Miracleman
>pretty good, great even but
>not really his top of the line comics or the greatest british comics or something like that.
stopped reading there
>>81363843
How is this related to Blackest Night senpai? I thought he created multi colored concept and Nekron.
>>81364393
it's okay but it's really not doing anything. just crossing off a checklist of lovecraft references for its own sake
>>81364156
Actually, for whatever he pretends now, he did in fact once gave a shit about capeshit and the genre.
>>81364438
the good part of those was the stuff he wrote post-DC
The first 6 issues of Miracleman (which is the stuff he wrote in Warrior back in the early 80s) is pretty underwhelming and the comic really gets great in the final 4/5 issues.
>>81364454
It was a different story, where he learns of the prophecy of his death and blackest night.
>>81364684
Somebody needs to storytime this.
Yes and no. I think his older work has survived pretty effectively- Watchmen and V for Vendetta especially- but there's basically nothing after the year 2000 worth reading, and most of his 90s work is aging poorly. There was a period when he was definitely the best working comic writer in the world, but looking back at his whole legacy, he's been eclipsed by other writers of his generation. Most obviously Morrison.
>>81361716
You're just too stupid to understand it
>>81364915
You mean only Morrison? Gaiman fucked off to writing novels. Milligan, Jaime Delano and other writers of first British invasion aren't even comparable.
>>81364952
That's the second British invasion, I think the first british invasion is just the nabbing of artists like Bolland and Gibbons.
>>81365004
I don't think the time they entered the industry was considered an invasion because DC didn't go out of their way looking for them. They all entered the industry pretty organically. Once Moote was a hit, other writers were literally picked up from a summit. The term invasion was used to describe how systematically it happened.
>>81357723
John Constantine.
>>81364915
>Most obviously Morrison.
Lol, Morrison hasn't reached the quality of Moore's best works.
>>81360291
Cof cof super folks cof cof
>>81364415
It's not hard to look good when you're writing Crossed, since the bar can't really get much lower anyway.
Well his work has aged better than Frank Miller's
>>81368856
What's with all the Frank Miller hate lately?
>>81364044
>Am I the only one that thinks Alan Moore is a fucking no fun allowed hack?
Close.
>>81369596
>What's with all the Frank Miller hate lately?
Man of Dark: Dawn of Returns
>>81369694
But Daredevil was good
>>81364684
right.
so johns basically just stole everything he had from moore?
>>81362201
I honestly love the colors of V for Vendetta, they're very surreal.
>>81363980
One of my favorites. As influential as it is it still feels unique today.
>>81363980
Tippy top for me.
Right before Captain Britain.
>>81364044
I've heard this expressed on /co/ before but I think it comes from not reading enough of Moore's works.>>81364119 said it best:
>But you and others should read more of his works and try to seperate his works from what they influenced.
Everyone always says Moore hates capes because he made them grimdark and nofun with his deconstructions, but he's also done some much more idealistic reconstructions of capes as well. Read Supreme, one of the most uplifting cape stories I've ever read and an absolute love letter to the history of comics.
>>81370585
Why is it stealing if the story follows up a prophecy of the future of the corps? Surely the prophecy would come to pass at some point.
