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>>81226616
That's pretty well made senpai.
>I see a suit of armor around the world.
>Sounds like a cold world Tony.
>I've seen colder.
Even though AoU was pretty shit, I really liked this exchange.
>>81226616
>random Kilgrave and AoShit scenes
lol
>>81226792
>Even though AoU was pretty shit, I really liked this exchange.
there were several parts of AOU that really stood out like this scene. Cap's PTSD fueled party dream being one of them.
>>81226792
>I'm gonna say this once
>HOW ABOUT NONCE?
>>81226616
pretty good
>>81226792
AoU had a lot of great moments.
>>81226875
Yeah, there were parts of AoU that were very well made and that actually annoys me more because the movie was such a giant missed opportunity.
This conversation, the Vision scenes, the Wanda hallucinations were all great. I feel like Whedon is actually better at drama/serious scenes than he is at comedy, so I don't understand why he doesn't do more stuff like that and turned AoU into a quipfest.
>>81226807
>>81226918
here's your (you)
>>81227031
why am I getting a (you)?
>>81227007
Whedon is more comfortable with comedy, so he has a bad habit of falling back on it too often. It's like he gets nervous if he writes something serious for too long.
>uses AoS scenes and Jessica Jones well
I rate the breddy gud/10
>>81227007
And that's not to say I want AoU to be a gritty no fun allowed movie. A movie can be more serious, but still have moments of levity and hope. Take this part
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhGPvE43aAM
>Humans are odd. They think order and chaos are somehow opposites and try to control what won't be. But there is grace in their failings. I think you missed that.
>They're doomed.
>Yes... but a thing isn't beautiful because it lasts. It is a privilege to be among them.
It is a pretty sad scene, but at the same time you have Vision who sees the good in humanity and thinks mankind is still worth saving. There's hope there. It's more moments like this that I wanted from AoU.
>>81227056
That's a fair assessment. I mean even his best stuff is a mixture of comedy and sudden harsh consequences. Like Buffy or Firefly. Usually it's the wise-cracking characters who get it, too. No better way get an emotional rise out of someone than to kick the dog everyone loves.
The guys still a good writer, but I hope he goes back to TV full time. He's better at characters that have a long time to develop.
>>81227007
>I don't understand why he doesn't do more stuff like that and turned AoU into a quipfest.
Whedon himself blames executive meddling. by the time he'd covered everything, the runtime was a bit over three hours. They demanded he bring it down to ~140 min, and a lot of good scenes ended on the cutting room floor
Shame they never greenlit a 270 min extended cut like Avengers 1 got. the synopsis for those deleted scenes sounds like it'd make a much better movie.
>>81227197
>the runtime was a bit over three hours
That's a problem though. He needs more self control in the planning phases of these movies because that is bloated.
>>81227232
Yeah, it's not good when you end up with a 3 hour+ movie, because it's inevitable that the movie will turn into a mess if you have to cut a lot from it after. Whedon is poor with planning and he probably needed someone else to reign him in. There's this interview with the Russos where they said they're really obsessive about planning how the movie turns out and it counts.
>The Captain America: The Winter Soldier DVD and Blu-ray was pretty light on special features, with only three or four minues of deleted scenes at most. It led to many fans wondering whether or not there were plans for a Director's Cut or if they were holding them back for a future "Marvel Phase 2" box set. Well, talking to Collider recently, Anthony Russo had this to say about why there just wasn't that much footage left on the cutting room floor. "We come from sort of do-it-yourself independent filmmaking so we’re very smart on a producing level about where we spend our money and how we spend our money, and we just wanted to make sure everything we did was gonna end up onscreen so we worked very hard to have a tight script. So by the time we got to shooting—our shooting script is remarkably similar to the final edit of the movie." Are they holding anything back at all though?
>"That’s all we got. And we feel bad about those scenes because you can make the argument that those four minutes of footage should have stayed in the movie. But we’re hard on our material. We’re really hard on it. We like propulsive pacing. We just want to make sure it’s as tight as possible."
>>81227311
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tStXyuvt54g
The deleted scenes in question if anyone wants to see them.
>>81227374
>That's Captain America you're after, he tends to inspire a certain amount of loyalty.
>SHIELD demands loyalty too.
Get it??? The difference between inspiring and demanding loyalty?
>>81227311
based russos
winter soldier was such a solidly assembled, efficiently run contraption of a film. from just a technical aspect, i think the contrast between civil war and bvs are going to be staggering
>>81227041
Are you Bendis?
That was pretty neat.
I can't wait to see what the Infinity War versions of videos like this will be like
>>81227496
One thing people often overlook while talking about TWS is the pacing. That movie had really great pacing, never once I thought the scenes were too long/boring/didn't add anything to the movie.
They mixed the actions scenes with the quiet scenes really well. I also liked how they did those tension filled moments before the action. The elevator scene comes to mind. I loved how they showed the SHIELD agents slowly entering the elevator and Cap looking at them suspiciously because I knew shit was about to go down. The payoff after those 2-3 minutes of tension was great.
>>81226882
I'm not a native speaker. Why does everyone bring this up? Is it not a word? Does it sound childish?
>>81227197
Whedon isn't Snyder tho, he took full responsibility for how the film turned out but he was also candid about the scenes they were going to take out and the ones they made him put in and both were awful decisions.
>>81227631
Probably a lot more focus on GotG and Tony's visions.
>>81227311
Same thing for James Gunn.
Whedon has way too many ideas for his own good, so he keeps fucking up. He really should find a co-director that he respects and works well with, since he can never chose what to put on screen and always goes for the 2deep4u references that end up being shallow.
>>81227503
Are you?
>>81227668
>Is it not a word? Does it sound childish?
exactly that.
>>81227668
It means kiddie diddler or something
>>81227745
Ok, cool. I thought it was a Shakespearean word, in one of Whedon's delusions of grandeur and depth, like he always uses 'play' instead of 'move'/'plan'.
>>81227731
That and Whedon always overuses a joke, like Cap swearing in AoU. That one got old real quick.
>>81227668
I think it's pretty indicative of how petty Tony gets around Steve because he's the only person in the world that gives him an inferiority complex.
One of the signs of autism is latching on to small inane parts of a film that no one else notices and obsessing over it, which I count as that scene and the flying trailer in Korea that everyone here flapped their arms at.
>>81227760
>>81227773
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonce
>>81227779
Yes, definitely.
What bothered me the most, is that it would've made sense if it was the other way around.
Like if Cap had said 'shit', and Tony mockingly corrected him, since Cap is usually perceived to be a goody-two shoes, and swear words really affect nobody, especially in a war scenario.
Then the callbacks would've been funnier with Cap getting increasingly annoyed like he did.
>>81227806
It must be pretty sad that the guy that likes and believes in mostly everybody, doesn't really like you that much. Especially with Tony's Ego.
>>81227642
i haven't seen bvs, but i hear the bad editing and amount of superfluous bullshit crammed in is just excessive
like a scene where laurence fishburne says something like "wonder what that kent boy is up to." the logical next scene would be clark, but it takes 3 more transitions to get there?
it just seems like a mess from every step of its inception
>>81227779
That one actually felt like the reverse to me. The first instance was awful but the follow-up jokes were much better.
>>81227703
That and on the infinity gems. Something like the Infinity War teaser Marvel did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv2NRpG76Pg
>>81227815
>a British and Australian slang term for a sex offender,
kek. He did the same thing with quim in Av1.
>>81227138
Theres this problem in movies/TV where they go "i'm in movies now! i slummed it in TV for long enough, i'm never going to be a TV pleb ever again"
When TV is still a viable and great format for them
Tony means well. If he makes a mistake, he fixes it. Unfortunately, he fucks up a lot, especially in Civil War by working with Ross.
>>81227912
Steve has literally never made a bad call in the MCU.
>>81227881
That was intentional, though. "Nonce" meaning sex offender was a coincidence.
>>81227939
Well, he is Steve Rogers.
Honestly, this video is actually a pretty good example of why Age of Ultron was an essential story that needed to happen.
The Avengers were never an actual team. Fury may have galvanized them with Coulson's death and the looming threat of Loki's army, but they were never a cohesive unit that actually bonded into a fit unit. They were a house of cards of damaged people that would fall apart at the first real internal push, and Ultron essentially being the Avengers damaged child was the perfect metaphor for that.
You can argue the actual story was done poorly and that's fine, that's a discussion worth having. But it was never filler, it was a character story that needed to gome before the big brawl with Thanos.
>>81227939
Crashing the plane instead of just landing it was generally a bad idea. It works out well to get him into the future, but still.
>>81227871
>>81227703
>>81227631
We also have 10 movies until Infinity War Part 2, so there's going to be a lot of stuff between now and then
>>81227998
That and he could have easily given Peggy his coordinates to at least collect his body.
>>81227998
>>81228014
He couldn't read German, though. He was Army, not Air Force as well. It was that or New York. He'd rather talk it through with her and comfort her since he didn't expect to survive.
>>81227988
Oh yeah, AoU was definitely an essential movie before Civil War/Infinity War.
I just wish it was done better. Could've easily turned into something great.
>>81228029
He's Captain America, I think he could have figured something out better than, "I'm crashing this plane with no survivors."
>>81228029
>Hydra is german Nazis
>Bombs have the drop locations written in big bold english
what
>>81228074
He didn't want to admit to Peggy that he wanted her to wear his home made Bucky mask when they would date.
>>81226616
This Video would have been perfect if they wouldn't have add scenes from the Tv Shows. Only Movies please.
>>81228102
I liked them adding the scene with Gretchen from BB talking about her family dying during the Battle of NY.
>>81228065
That's fair. I liked it a lot but I know I'm in the minority on /co/, it's such a bizarre and idiosyncratic movie that I ended up really digging it.
>>81227902
I don't think that's a thing, but have you met actual television writers? Selling pilots is a soul crushing experience that pays the bills by milking you of creativity then filing it away to never see the light of day again. Then you have to do it all over again.
But movie screenplay writing and Tv writing are two very different very deliberate things.
Whedon's issue is that he's 50 years old, rich, and bored. He got bored in the middle of AoU and realized he was writing a multi-hundred million dollar hamfisted metaphor about working for Marvel then bounced before producers realized. Now he'll go back to writing the first season of shows then fucking off because it makes him feel better.
Someone should do a DC version of this.
JL mortal logo. BLACK SCREEN.
Green Lantern logo. BLACK SCREEN.
Then finally MOS and B v S clips that end with a fart noise.
>>81228187
I probably would've enjoyed Age of Ultron more if I wasn't so hyped for it. I loved the first Avengers movie and I was so overjoyed when I left the cinema after seeing it.
After AoU was over, I just felt disappointment because I was expecting something else. Objectively speaking, AoU is in no way worse than Avengers, but from the first one I got exactly what I was expecting. With the second one, I expected something a bit more serious and with more high stakes from the trailers, but instead I got a sort of a rehash of the first Avengers. The trailers are probably what ruined AoU for a lot of people.
>>81227744
Brian Michael Bendis is You?
>>81227999
Jesus, is it really that many?
Most of them probably won't have that much cosmic set-up in them, though. I mean, just look at Ant-Man.
>>81228187
>I liked them adding the scene with Gretchen from BB talking about her family dying during the Battle of NY.
I really hope Marvel sees the reaction these numbers got and adds an extra zero to each.
>>81228289
>The trailers are probably what ruined AoU for a lot of people.
I can probably agree with this.
I did sort of enjoy parts of AoU but the trailers definitely spoiled how the actual movie would be
That said the earlier anon made a good case as to why it needed to happen
>>81228102
The president Ellis monologue from AoS did a good job of touching on all the various disasters, though. That was worth keeping in.
>>81228335
>but the trailers definitely spoiled how the actual movie would be
No, the trailers gave a false expectation for what the movie would be.
>>81228321
9 movies between now and Infinity War 2, yeah.
>Civil War
>Doctor Strange
>GOTG 2
>Spider-Man
>Ragnarok
>Black Panther
>IW 1
>Ant-Man and Wasp
>Captain Marvel
>IW 2
>>81227940
Iron man is canonically a black sabbath so he probably learnt it somewhere.
>>81228289
>>81228335
"I'm gonna show you something beautiful..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmeOjFno6Do
trailer ultron is legitimately terrifying
i can see why the studio was like "tone it down, we need to sell this to kids"
but they over corrected and it became quipfest 2015
>>81228382
Right, that's what I meant to say
>>81228289
It's weird really. I didn't hate AoU and I can't really discern any big glaring flaws in it but I feel no desire to see it again and I can't say I particularly like it.
I guess maybe it was that it was so expected and at that point a bit of a run of the mill Marvel movie.
>>81228415
that's focus groups for you
>trailer ultron is the closest we'll ever get to proper Dr. Doom
why live
>>81228415
He looks different in the trailer, now that I think about it. He looks less...rounded.
>>81228321
Movie until IW Part 2
Civil War - Nothing to do with IW
Doctor Strange - May contain an Infinity gem
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 - Nothing to do with IW
Spider-Man - Nothing to do with IW
Thor: Ragnarok - Called the most important phase 3 movie
Black Panther - Important for IW
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 - Important
Ant-man and the Wasp - No clue
Captain Marvel - Seems to be important
Avengers: Infinity War Part 2
First part of this phase doesn't really deal with IW, but then it seems to become more and more integral to each story
>>81228289
Nah I get that AoU had plenty of problems, but what I liked about it was how fucked-up and Whdeony-dark it was.
I mean he basically made a movie about the Avengers collapsing under the weight of their own insecurities and human flaws and teaming up to murder their own child, who was basically a grotesque mirror of them. Ultron was basically written as an emotionaliy stunted and desperately lonely child who was lashing out at his "father" while trying to find his place in the world, before just losing his mind in the third act. Then it basically ends with a new generation of Avengers because the old had failed the world and were going their seperate ways or exiling themselves.
It's a pretty dark movie thematically under all the dank memes and CGI fight scenes. It taps into a lot of the good Whedon can do, in finding the human flaws in super-powered people or beings like he did on Buffy and Angel.
Then again I've never minded the quip overload these movies had, so that probably helps a lot. If I was as annoyed by them as a lot of /co/ was I'd probably dismiss at lot of the interesting and weird shit hidden under the surface.
Since this is basically a MCU general, might as well post this. It appears that Doctor Strange, Ant-Man and Black Panther will be in the Captain Marvel movie. Makes sense since it comes out right after Infinity War part 1, so I expect it to be the bridge between the two parts.
>In the Captain Marvel film, Benedict Cumberbatch joins Paul Rudd, who will play Ant-Man and Chadwick Boseman, who takes the role of Black Panther. Both Paul Rudd and Cumberbatch have their own standalone movies. Cumberbatch’s Doctore Strange is due for release on November 4, while Rudd’s Ant-Man was released on July 17, 2015, in North America.
>A few names have been floated for consideration for Carol Danvers, including Emily Blunt, (Into the Woods, Edge of Tomorrow, and The Huntsman: Winter’s War), Natalie Dormer, (Game of Thrones, The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1 & 2, and Captain America: The First Avenger), and Charlize Theron (Mad Max: Fury Road, Prometheus, and Hancock), among others.
http://www.inquisitr.com/2913012/captain-marvel-cast-update-benedict-cumberbatch-signs-on-carol-danvers-role-tbd/
>>81228494
>Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 - Nothing to do with IW
I thought there was supposed to be a Gem in this one
>>81228494
>Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 - Nothing to do with IW
What
>>81228519
emily blunt was a qt badass in edge of tomorrow
charlize theron and natalie dorner are meme tier actresses
watch marvel pull something ridiculous out of their hat and go withkamala
>>81227136
I still can't get over the fact that Paul Bettany is not only a superhero, but a pretty good one from what little we've seen.
>>81228519
Wha-wha-wha?
I dunno if it's a good idea to introduce a character who is desperately in need of greater characterization in a crowded movie.
>>81228527
>>81228548
Gunn said there's no Thanos, no gem, and it's going to be about everyone's daddy issues basically.
>>81228559
Nah, Feige already confirmed the movie will be about Carol. I wouldn't be surprised if we got a Kamala cameo though and then she'd get her own movie/show in Phase 4.
>>81228584
How can it be about daddy issues if Thanos isn't there?
>>81228559
>doesn't love based Charlize
>>81228584
>and it's going to be about everyone's daddy issues basically.
Sounds solid enough. Hopefully he learned how fo film fight scenes in the intervening years.
>>81228574
I think she could benefit a lot from interacting with other heroes though, establishing some dynamic with the other characters between the last Infinity War movie is pretty good.
With them building up to these two massive movies, I think we need to expect that the other ones won't be as self contained and focused on only one character. I'm okay with it, after all it's why they made this big cinematic universe.
>>81226616
Just delete that random as fuck AOS scene and you have a perfect refresher.
>>81228626
Gamora was pretty clear that she didn't see Thanos as a father anymore.
Also she probably wants to keep Drax as far away from him as possible.
>>81228527
>>81228548
Gunn said that the Guardians should be their own thing and not be something that only exists for the sake of the Avengers.
And I completely agree with him.
> "I don't feel beholden to that stuff at all. I think it's really about the Guardians and what they are doing. We're not subservient to the Avengers. Guardians 2 is not a movie that's made to move toward [Avengers: Infinity War]. It's something that's made to move toward future cosmic movies, so I don't feel that that is something that affects me that much."
http://www.mtv.com/news/1996245/guardians-of-the-galaxy-2-avengers-3/
>>81228559
Olivia Wilde is my waifu, also she's worked with Chris Hemsworth before and he got Tom Holland his job, so I'm holding out hope.
>>81228673
>that random as fuck AOS scene
There were like 3/4 in there
>>81228331
>$18.8 billion in damages
>74 casualties
I did the math, and that's $243,243,243 in damages per casualty.
To compare, Hiroshima cost $2 billion (1945) in damages for a death toll of 90,000–146,000, and a total ratio of $13,698.63 to $22,222.22 per casualty.
In 2016 dollars, that's $2.635 trillion, and a ratio of $18,047,945.20 to $29,477,777.80 per casualty
What I'm trying to get at is that it cost less per casualty to destroy Hiroshima than it did to bang up New York City.
>>81228682
Didn't he have to fight to get Thanos to appear in the first GotG at all? Cause it meant they had to cast him crazy earlier than planned.
>>81228737
i thought tom and jon bernthal helped each other get their jobs, doing punisher and spider-man audition tapes in ireland or something
i can't see olivia as a blonde. i'd rather see her in tron 3
>>81228776
He had to work hard to write him in and almost wanted to cut the scene since it made Ronan look like a nonexistant thread
>>81228737
Carol is a busty, blonde bombshell. Olivia Wilde has the body of a 15 year old boy
>>81228778
They helped each other audition but an audition tape isn't the same as talking to Fiege and saying 'hey this kid is cool'.
>i can't see olivia as a blonde
That's actually her natural hair color.
Honestly I don't care who they cast, but my waifu is in the mix so she has my vote if she wants it. I don't really see Emily Blunt's appeal tho so I hope she doesn't get it.
>>81228494
>Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 - Nothing to do with IW
If we're going to see Thanos at all before IW, it'll be in this movie.
In fact, if Thanos doesn't spend IW1 going around and getting every gem, I would love for this to be the movie where Xandar is destroyed and the Nova Corps is left in ruins.
>>81228519
>Emily Blunt
>Charlize Theron
Yes please.
>>81228857
>Carol is a busty, blonde bombshell.
Nigga every comic book bitch is a busty, ______ bombshell.
No one gives a fuck when it comes to casting. Gadot, Halle Berry, and Elizabeth Olsen should have alerted you to this.
>>81228925
>If we're going to see Thanos at all before IW, it'll be in this movie.
Thanos won't be in GotG2.
Feige confirmed this
>I wouldn’t look too hard in that movie for Thanos. The next time we see Thanos he will not be messing around. It will be, ‘Oh, that’s why they’ve been teasing this villain for five years!’
http://www.slashfilm.com/thanos-in-guardians-of-the-galaxy-2/
I'm personally think he'll appear at the end of Thor 3
>>81228894
>Olivia Wilde is your waifu
>she's on a terrible TV show every week now, which is basically the "Watch Olivia Wilde Be The Best Part Of A Turd Bucket" Show
I'm so sorry anon.
>>81228519
Charlize Theron has the face of a Villain and Dormer has a baby face. Blunt is the best choice. She looks heroic and like someone you could look up to.
I think the biggest thing they will have to overcome is that Captain Marvel can free fly and doesn't wear a cape. Unassisted flight looks stupid without a cape.
Oh fuck me, my hype's flaring up.
The best part is no matter how good or bad CW is, it'll be fucking amazing compared to the uhhh... The last cape move I watched...
>>81229003
Depends on what costume they use.
still weird how they changed the title of this movie after it was on blu ray
i'm going all in on emily for carol
>>81228964
Wait, there's a sequel to that edgy Snow White movie?
>>81228998
>I'm so sorry anon.
I'll make it better
>>81229153
Its a tie between Theron and Blunt for me. I can't decide who would be better.
>>81229153
My nigguh
>>81229175
Yes, without the snow white.
>>81229175
Prequel I think
>>81229175
Prequel.
>>81229153
She'd be so good.
She's one of those actresses that's really good in action roles, I can actually buy her as an Air Force pilot.
>>81228964
What in the wide world of sports is this horseshit?
>>81229217
if they go with her, wonder what she'll do with her english accent
and what costume they go with
and the hair
>>81229175
Yeah, it seems to be part prequel part sequel. It looks hilariously stupid, Emily Blunt is playing Evil Frozen and Jessica Chastain seems to be playing Legolas with tits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAvCgVR0gIM
>>81229285
>and what costume they go with
I'd kill for the Black Widow & Punisher movie costume.
>>81229285
>wonder what she'll do with her english accent
You haven't seen Looper?
What the flying fuck is wrong with you? It's the only good movie that plain ass bitch has been in.
>>81229285
This look would be great. Obviously they're not gonna have her in the bathing suit.
Emily's been blonde many times, they'll just dye her hair. She can also do an American accent.
>>81228992
Damn, but at least we'll get to see a bit more of him before IW.
>YOU FUCKED UP THE CROSSBONES FIGHT WE NEED SUPERVISION!
>Ok
>NOW GO "CAPTURE" BUCKY HE TOTALLY BLEW UP THE UN CONFERENCE
>But they want to straight up kill him
>OMG STEVE YOU'RE SUCH A DICK FIGHTING AGAINST US! I'M GONNA GET A HIGHSCHOOLER TO FIGHT YOU
>Bucky gets sent to the totally not Red Skull's hydra base from the first avenger
>B-BUT I WAS YOUR FRIEEEEND :(((
>>81228737
There were rumors of Wilde being in the running for Gamora, so I wouldn't be too surprised to see her name come up.
>>81229464
I'm pretty sure Bucky is the one that blew up the conference hall. Black Panther wouldn't be after him if he didn't know for sure.
This is the first MCU thread in months I've been in withoutMarvel is finished! Capekino! Suicide Watch!shitposting.
Feels good man.
>>81229519
Yeah that got really old really quick.
I'm glad we're past that shit.
>>81228085
Place names are place names moron.
>>81229352
How's that BW & Punisher anime? Worth a watch?
>>81229518
>Black Panther wouldn't be after him if he didn't know for sure.
T'Challa just goes ask Ross and Tony.
>>81229518
"Bucky"
You realize Zemo is in this movie right?
>>81226616
This video only highlights the main problem with the presumed "interconnected" part of the MCU.
Stuff like the Inhumans in AoS and Killgrave in Jessica Jones SHOULD be relevant to Civil War, especially the Inhumans considering it's a worldwide event. However... they aren't, at all. Civil War won't reference either, the Russo Brothers have no idea what's going on on the TV shows.
It makes sense that Civil War wouldn't reference them, as expecting the general public to keep up with TV shows, one of them for audiences over the age of 18, is bad form, but at the same time shows how flimsy the interconnection between these properties really is.
Honestly, the fault falls mostly to the AoS writers who thought their (shitty) show was as important as the movies and decided to create their own world changing event inside a bigger universe that barely acknowledges them.
civil war comes out in 4 weeks in asia! i'm really fucking excited guys
>>81226616
>manages to salvage moments from AoU and Jessica Jones
>pretty hype world building trailer that almost makes it seem like this was all planned out
bravo youtube shill
>>81229887
i thought for a second that was from the spider-man broadway show
fuck you for reminding me of the spider-man broadway show
>>81228074
Theory is that Cap became suicidal because Bucky was 50% percent of his impulse control.
>>81229519
Well BvS was shit, so of course DCfriends quieted down. The only thing to praise is box office now and most people here know thats a stupid thing to champion.
>>81229870
It's actually going to have a an early screening in two weeks at CinemaCon.
http://www.screendaily.com/news/disney-to-screen-civil-war-at-cinemacon/5101954.article?referrer=RSS
Hopefully the movie doesn't get spoiled so early, but I guess it's inevitable.
>>81229905
But now I reminded you of the GOAT Spider-man game where you could play as the Green Goblin with additional Flash powers.
>>81229908
Well, I'd kill myself to if my boyfriend died.
>>81229770
>the Russo Brothers have no idea what's going on on the TV shows.
It's Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely who are responsible for the writing, the Russos are just directors.
>>81228331
I'm starting to think that this will be casualties directly attributable to the Avengers, like in the clip where the woman talks about a falling building crushing her family. Casualties like the Chitari rounding up and killing people would be put under a different metric as those represent people the Avengers failed to save rather than people the Avengers actually "killed" which is the point of Ross' speech, same thing with the damages most likely, damage brought about by the way the Avengers decided to prosecute the fight. In the comics this was actually a big deal since they blamed the deaths that triggered the Civil War on young and improperly trained heroes. The same argument can easily be applied to the Avengers by saying they haven't had sufficient training in how to operate as a team and hence need the oversight that Ross is demanding.
>>81229770
Yeah, but no one gives a shit about the Inhumans.
It's a double edged sword in that it gives the show something to maintain a threat of the week, but honestly having to pay attention to every Marvel show and movie is just too much.
I like the Netflix approach where you can refer to things, but it doesn't really reflect anything.
>>81229519
>>81229925
Shitposters don't have a team, anons. Marvel shitposters and DC shitposters are the same cunts. The school boys are all trolling the DC threads because they are the easy target at the moment. This weekend was the calmest /co/ has ever been with the rolling sticky serving as a /tv/ magnet.
>>81228964
Live Action Frozen?
Emily Blunt, Charlize Theron, Natalie Dormer and Katherine Winnick are all bad choices.
Good actresses, but they are all either in their late 30's or are starting to look old. Remember the character debuts in 3 years, and has to keep young for 7 or 8 for her trilogy if they have one or the avengers trilogy.
They need to pull a miracle cast of finding someone that doesn't age from 25-45 like Theron, McAdams, Elizabeth Banks and Chastain, and they need to find one of those ageless witches at their 30 years of age at the most to be safe.
I honestly don't know who they'll cast, but they better pull a Daisy Ridley and pick a random nobody and surprise everyone.
The best Carol actress I've seen was Rachael Taylor, who's playing Hellcat in Jessica Jones. It figures, though.
>>81228415
Watched this and then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI9GyhX7yHM
They had Spader remove a ton of the menace and growl from his Ultron voice for the movie.
Why does Tony act like Peter is a trump card?
A new super appearing is surprising, sure, but is Spidey entering the fight that decisive? The Vision, Scarlet Witch, and some of the best fighters in the history of the world are in that airport already. What's an introverted kid from Brooklyn gonna do?
>>81228584
But Gamora's Daddy issues are all to do with Thanos?
>>81230314
Be faster than literally everyone there.
>>81230314
Probably as a poster-child for young people with new-found powers that can be helped to control them and use them for good, rather than bring cities down.
>>81230333
It's more than father issues, it's about fatherhood. She probably talks about her real father, before Thanos pulled a reverse cuckoo.
>>81230314
They've never seen Peter fight, and don't know what he can do. He's essentially a wild card.
>>81230314
Considering he's 'losing patience' I assume people start defecting from Tony's side at the airport, and Spider-Man was just Tony's ace in the hole.
>>81230314
Why is Stark bringing an underaged boy to a foreign country to fight adults in the first place? Child endangerment does not scream accountability, especially when the kid is wearing a fullbody costume.
>>81230314
He literally stole Cap's shield and handcuffed him, 5 seconds into the fight, after tony called his costume an Underoos. Also Spider-Sense.
>>81230354
i guess, considering whedon shot the previous fastest guy
>>81230314
Cap was an introverted kid from Brooklyn. Spidey is from Queens.
>>81230297
Am I the only one who preferred the Ultron we got in the movie than the one in the trailers?
The Ultron from the trailers was too serious
>>81230314
Spidey is the Marvel Superhero, pretty sure he can beat anyone there if push came to shove.
>>81230392
They're natural born enemies.
>>81230297
They should really try and grab some of Robert California's lines from the Office. He says a lot of pretentious and mean things there.
>>81230401
I think a middle ground would've been nice. He cracked jokes in the more tense situations. Jokes at the party scene would've been better, since he should be trying to relate to the Avengers. He should've started lighter and ended darker, not the other way around.
Honestly, with all the religious alegory, and the daddy issues and lack of personal connection, Ultron seems like a retroactive parody of Zack Snyder.
>>81230383
so he got the jump on him. there's nothing that says cap's incapacitated for the whole rest of the fight, or that he or anyone else will get caught off guard by webs again.
like i stated earlier. surprising, but not decisive
>>81230314
>>81230392
I'd still act introverted if I was surrounded by super soldiers, some guy who can change sizes at will, guys in armored suits, a super powered robot, folks wearing black with improbable aiming skills, and a reality wizard, most of them people I've barely met for even 5 minutes, when all I'm wearing is a skin-tight suit and webshooters.
>>81230458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf-_230SjbM
Who ready for Doc Strange, anons?
Is Captain Beefcake going to___die?____
>>81230458
>ended darker
But why
I don't understand why people keep saying this, he was already dark.
He tried to destroy Earth, you don't get more fricking dark than that
>>81230537He has to show up in Infinity War, say Avengers Assemble and lift Thor's hammer.
No.
>>81230496
Funny thing, when asked about Marvel's big casts and scheduling the actors in a podcast, Elizabeth Olson mentioned that "if they wanted, say Chiwetel or Tilda, they'd be there". Weird choice of characters. Maybe a tease for things to come.
>>81230494
Fucking kek.
>>81230544
Darker as in angrier and cracking less jokes. More serious, but only at the end, since it was the climax of the movie. Last scene with Vision was cool, he should've been like that since his fight with Thor/Vision. His attitude didn't match his actions.
Could've been worse, though.
>>81230494
>they haven't really improved on the Oreo, have they?
WHY DOES THIS NOT SEEM OUT OF PLACE IN THIS FUCKING MOVIE?!
>>81230297
I like Ultron's voice in the movie. His clam, matter-of-fact tone made him so much more sinister.
>>81230606
What podcast?
I can listen Lizzy talk for an hour.
>>81230643
Happy Sad and Confused. Only 20 minutes, though.
>>81230606
>arker as in angrier and cracking less jokes. More serious,
For what purpose?
It would add nothing to the film.
>>81230756
Sure it would, tension.
I don't know what you people want, but there's a time and a place for everything, and just because BvS could've done with more levity, AoU's criticism isn't any less valid.
I don't think the movie was bad, I actually think it's a better movie than the first one, but Ultron should've had less jokes than he did. You can show emotion and not crack jokes.
There are such things as 'too much' and 'too little' and the thresholds aren't the same for every movie. Some people here think that there is only one absolute way to do a movie and that would mean by definition that only one possibly good movie can be made. It gets especially annoying. Guardians and WS has different percentages of jokes and they are both great fucking movies.
You have to match tone. 0% and 100% generally suck, and a movie like Ultron, about the Avenger's first big loss and moment of doubt should've had a bunch less. Note that less doesn't mean 0, it means not as many. Is it so hard for people to grasp relativity?
>>81226792
>I could choke you out without turning a shade
>>81228085
We say Rio de Janeiro instead of River of January don't we?
>>81231530
Kek, the best example I have of that is that British people cal "Porto" "Oporto", which means "the Porto" in Portuguese. Fucking bullshit for searching in alphabetical order.
>>81230595The hype moment in Infinity War part 2 where Cap lifts Thor's hammer and rallies everyone with an "AVENGERS ASSEMBLE" to win the fight we've been waiting for
Can't wait
>>81231606
I hope he gets cool armor
>>81231642
>>81231606That moment in IW where Thanos uses the time gem to revert Steve back to his 100pound self, and upon grabbing Mjolnir he gets rebuffed, Asgardian scale armor and a Winged cap and yells Avengers Assemble, you mean.
>>81231683
I love it
Ok so who is going to die? Rumor has it they filmed 4 death scenes.
>>81231716Not Cap, he has a scene in one of the BTS featurettes with Black Panther out of his suit, and he has clothes that the scenes in the trailers don't have, plus he has bruises on his face, so it presumably happens in the later part of the movie.
So Maybe Widow and/or Hawkeye. Maybe Rhodey.
>>81231716
What if it'sBucky?
>>81231774
Maybe Rhodey.
>>81231775
>Cap's waifu dies at the beginning of the movie
>Cap's husbando dies at the end of the movie
He will literally kill himself if it happens. Cap doesn't deserve that much suffering.
>>81227857
That whole exchange didn't make sense to me. Cap is a WW II veteran. The Howling Commandos had to have been pretty filthy-mouthed when they're under fire or camping in a ditch for the third time that week.
I can understand Cap maybe thinking there's a time and place for it, but they were mid-raid.
>>81231819
It was more a joke on the MPAA, since the only swear word is the first one from the protagonists. Whedon was trying to be cute. If the movie was better, it would've been a cool addition, but it just felt try-hard.
>>81231683
>mfw this doesn't happen even though it would be the most glorious and fitting thing if it did
This thread is pretty comfy for a movie one.Sometimes I love you anons.
>>81228415
Trailer Ultron was fan-fucking-tastic and his devolution into jokesbot killed what could have been the next big thing of the MCU.
I tried to argue this with someone once, but he said Ultron never changed.
>>81231683
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>>81230297
God damn it, Marvel
Trailer Ultron was perfect.
>>81231884
If it doesn't fit in the story, I don't mind. They had Hulk come out of Iron Man's in early drafts of Ultron, which they couldn't fit. You'll notice that when they are discussing how they should approach Ultron, Stark says to Banner that Ultron hates 'Iron Man' the most, and Hulk doesn't feature much in the final battle outside the church.
I think they made the right call, or the Banner/Widow thing would've been extra pointless, even though it's a great fucking idea.
>>81231913
Full on murderbot Ultron isn't that great either, it's been done a lot. EMH's did it wrong, even if they were a couple of nice episodes.
>>81231683
I hope that thing about how execs browse /co/ sometimes is true because I need them to read this
>>81231994
>If it doesn't fit in the story, I don't mind. They had Hulk come out of Iron Man's in early drafts of Ultron, which they couldn't fit. You'll notice that when they are discussing how they should approach Ultron, Stark says to Banner that Ultron hates 'Iron Man' the most, and Hulk doesn't feature much in the final battle outside the church.
>I think they made the right call, or the Banner/Widow thing would've been extra pointless, even though it's a great fucking idea.
Yeah you're right, I'm just hoping it will still be in there.After all, if defeating Thanos wouldn't do it, a human lifting one of the legendary artefacts of the asgardians would definetly earn the respect for Earth in the MCU, which would be further reason for new, alien storylines and characters to be introduced.
>>81231994
I certainly wanted him to be more than one-note.
His chats with the twins, for instance, were great, but he undermined himself a lot with his weird little moments like "What's the word for children?"
If it was meant to be funny, it wasn't. If it was meant to give him quirks, it fell flat. It just broke the tension and made him seem lame to go from so well-spoken to fumbling for his words when he's clearly had time to ruminate on this and get his thoughts in order.
>>81231683
I'd like to add that if they do that whole walk to Thanos, It should be with skinny Steve barely fitting the Cap Uniform and lifting the shield, with Thanos pimp-slap breaking the shield throwing him near Mjolnir thus triggering these events.
Since the four Russos love Cap and write them better than anyone, I have no doubts they'd do it this way.
>>81232134
Yeah, the line 'Humans create children, designed to supplant them' is actually a good line. Breaking it up was dumb.
Chris Evans is supposed to show some new footage at the MTV Movie awards.
>>81232187
Is that today?
>>81227999
>10 movies
What the fuck
doesn't it come out in 2019? Are they going to do literally 3 movies per year?
>>81227197
>Whedon blaming everyone else
That's not news.
>>81232278
Well yeah, starting from next year they'll have 3 movies a year.
>>81232278
>Are they going to do literally 3 movies per year?
Why yes they are
>>81232201
April 10th.
>>81226616
>liked bvs
>looking forward to CA:CW
fuck you /co/ and your company wars, I'm hype as shit
>>81228519
I'd take Blunt or Theron. But please, in the name of all that is holy, remove Dormer from that list.
>>81226616
Any morecool videos like this?
>>81232602
fan stuff in general?
https://youtu.be/cmBnBSH7on8
>>81231913
The argument my friend had and he's correct imo is that this Ultron is based on Tony's personality which is why there's a whole banter between the two of them. But it also explains the jokes Ultron has because he pretty much is an evil Tony Stark of MCU.
>>81232712
updated
https://youtu.be/LcZ9Bxc6nRk
>>81232765
Doesn't explain why some of the lines fall flat though.
>>81228488
I have a few questions: How does one get into one of these focus groups? And why it whenever they get brought up they appear to often be comprised of morons?
>>81228519
>>81228559
>>81228574
>>81228964
>>81229003
>beliebing something with literally no sources
>reported by no other outlet
wew lands if I made a movie site with a buzzfeed like layout and posted an article citing a "credible source" saying Elizabeth Olsen and ScarJo are suckig my dick RIGHT NOW you'd probably believe it too.
>>81232842
Lie on those surveys. These executives target specific audiences. It just turns out that these audiences are also mouth-breathing wage workers or families that just want their money's worth. Hence, focus groups
>>81232788
Sweet.
>>81232842
>And why it whenever they get brought up they appear to often be comprised of morons?
some times the groups are total morons. Some times, execs purposefully make them appear to be morons to make it seem like their ideas should be implemented.
>>81231683
damn, i didnt even remember that scene, just picturing it in my head gave me the chills
>>81226792
>AoU was pretty shit
ONE YEAR PEOPLE. ONE YEAR.
AND THIS MEME IS STILL UP AND GOING.
>>81229519
Marvel is finished! Capekino! Suicide Watch!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLb8sCHC1G8
POULTRY
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>>81232842
As long as you have a brain capable of rational and critical thought, you will never make it.
>>81227779
Not even Chris Evans likes that line: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux7AZrYUiuo
>>81233277
Oh man, I just realized imagine if they bring this back against Thanos
>>81227779
The language gag was hilarious
>>81233355
>you will never be friends with Chris Evans
>>81233515
It's okay, Tony. You still have Jarv- oh.
>>81226616
>0:54
Wait, when did Cap pick up a file on Tony?
>>81233629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pov4qMSfg9w
Avengers deleted scene.
>>81233629
Deleted scene from Avengers. Steve goes through files of the Commandos, Carter and Tony in his apartment.
>>81233357
Steves gonna die in Civil War so I kind of doubt it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H8hcvNeWtg
Reminder that he's one of us.
>>81233584
It hurts so much, anon.
Please stop.
>>81233554
Yeah, he's going to get a taste for femdom and he'll have to switch sides.
>>81230314
Peter is a sort of trump card because having Peter on Tony's side shows Cap that the next generation agrees with him. That could be deflating.
>>81233708
Vision ain't Jarvis. Just has his voice and intonation. Vision is kill.
>>81233715
It's almost unbelievable how handsome those two are.>they will never give each other a strong handshake while in costume
>>81233584
Even she is jealous and she has one of the nicest racks out there.
>>81232966
he does good work
https://youtu.be/Fb7e1C5JUUY
>>81233411
No, is stupid
>>81226616
I can't believe the company wars going in the comment section is worse then ours.
>>81233872
>quality edited footage
>suddenly all kinds of villians start showing up
I fucking came.
I once again believe we will one day see a true Justice League movie in our life times.
>>81230887
Well said, anon.
If this doesn't end in Tony and Steve fucking like sex-starved bunnies, I will be disappoint.
Or just wait for the gay XXX parody to be made. The Star Wars one is pretty good so far.
>>81233644
Well fuck. That's such a depressing scene.
>>81234135
Youtubes comment section is always worse than anywhere else on the internet
>>81234457
>Tony and Steve
>not Bucky and Steve
Get better taste in homos anon.
>>81234135
Yeah, I am amazed at the amount of casuals who never have actually read a comic feel the the need to war and fly banners over comic book movies like it's the gotsdamn Middle Ages.
>>81234586
I don't believe anywhere can be worse than /tv/
Do you think we will see Cap cry at the funeral?
>>81234663
No, he's gonna leave as soon as its over to be with Bucky.
>>81233644
that's sad
>>81234758
Cap's life is sad.
>>81234646
How about Steve, Tony, and Bucky together?
>>81229176
This is really hot and also really adorable.
>>81234758
Steve literally has no life anymore. There's a reason why he's clinging onto Bucky.
>>81234820
Only if Tony watches and cries in the corner.
>Sorry Tony, but he's my fuckbuddy.
>S-so was I.
>>81234844
I just keep thinking about an animu version and how there would be 300% more jiggle physics and 200% more boob volume.
>>81234849
They've done a great job of conveying that.
Half the reason Tony's butthurt line about them being friends rings hollow because Steven doesn't really seem to be making friends in the Avengers. Sure, he trusts Falcon and gets along with the others well enough, but they're friendly acquaintances.
Bucky is the only thing he has a real emotional investment in anymore.
>>81234654
even /tv/ is kinda backpedaling due to the low rt score.
>>81234914
Cap and Widow should be more than just acquaintances after TWS.
>>81229295
Muh dick desu
>>81226616
Good stuff. I especially liked how they brought up Tony's fears of collateral damage at the beginning of his journey to reflect why he's supporting more oversight now.
>>81228964
>>81228519
Charlize would have been perfect some years ago. But she's 40 and will be 43 by the time the movie comes out. I think they'll go for a younger actress.Elizabeth Debicki would be my choice, but they already got her for GotG.
>>81234914
Yeah, but that's Cap. Tony thinks he's friends with everyone he meets.
>>81235071
They're good friends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mESEFrhI9sQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THoVXV9TsIw
>>81228998
I actually haven't watched Vinyl yet, seems like I made the right decision.
>>81234844
It's called being best girl, anon.
As long as we get to see more of Chris Evans topless I'll be happy with the movie.
>>81235232
>I would now. And I'm always honest.
I love that scene, really underrated one.
Widow seems a bit taken aback after he says it. Putting these two together was such a great idea, their dynamic is really good. Widow feels guilty about her past and wants to prove herself and Cap gives her strength to do that by believing and trusting her. I like to think that this conversation is what prompted Widow to leak the SHIELD files even if it meant compromising her identities and revealing her past to the public. Cap is one of the few people that puts their trust in her and believes she's a good person at heart.
>>81227865
BVS SPOILERS BELOW
There's some really terrible pacing, that's not even the worst of it. Maybe the worst example is at the end. There's a funeral, and Bruce is in attendence. It then cuts to Batman threatening Lex at the prison. It then cuts BACK to the funeral, and Bruce is still there. And then it ends. Finish a scene before you move on, jesus
>>81235458
MCU Cap is 101 on how to write characters with no arcs: make everyone else get an arc after they meet him:
>Tony starts trusting his orders (Av1) and cornyness (Av2).
>Widow starts believing in his cause.
>Falcon is a guy who's tired of war but gets back into it.
>Peggy goes from underling founds SHIELD and inspires people to go through their own arcs in her show.
>Nick Fury accepts that his ideas are too aggressive and starts questioning his approach.
>He even convinces Tommy Lee Jones to be more lenient.
>>81234914
Russos said he's taken Wanda under his wing as a student.
>>81235600
As it should be, Cap is supposed to inspire people and make them want to do better.
>Captain's orders
>>81235600
And what about DCEU Superman?
>>81226616
Very well made compalation
>>81235790
What superman?
>>81235833
Murderman, Captain Hypocrite, whatever you like to call him.
>>81235719
>Captain's orders
>>81234820
>Rhodes and Sam have to wait outside
>>81235665
I love this small scene from the trailer.
Shows that Cap is a good leader who cares about his team.
>>81233355
Chris Evans looks like a real bro
>>81235790
a normal dude from kansas.
>>81235790
Superman should be seen doing good. I wouldn't say that he provokes arcs in main characters because most of the JL is already a bunch of righteous people, for the most part. Sure som are more cocky but there's no outright asshole, besides Bruce. His influence on Batman should be obvious, then. His influence on outside people, mainly cops and civilians as well. Like, after all the bullshit of MoS, why would anyone build him a statue?
He should be written as a man without much internal struggle. You put a problem in front of him and he solves it right away. Cap should have a bit more doubt on him, since he's more flawed and not as capable, and his problems are generally more political and gray-area. It's why the Civil War concept works. He can be stubborn and make non-optimal calls, even with good intentions.
But the moment you drop a bus of school children and Lois, he should go straight for the bus AND Lois, and let the villain get away. The moment you give him a question with two wrong answers, you have to play very very carefully, but you should avoid those for the most part. Any 'wrong' call should hit him like a brick, and be the climax of a story, not the continual focus of two movies. He should provide answers, not questions. That's what batman's for.
He should also make more vocal compliments and show more pride, like that Cop in central park strip.
>>81235932
He needs to protect his kohai
>>81233118
Kids are retarded, never write for them.
>>81235932
Stop bullying my daughterfu
>>81233584
Similar thing happened in "Thor" with the actress who played his wife. She'd slap her hand on his pecs and let it linger just to cop a feel. Everyone else was all "She's acting in character" and she was like "Sure, you go with that".
They really know how to get the man-candy with Marvel movies. If Nightwing ever appears in the DC films they'd better find the sexiest young otter-mode guy with a big firm ass that they can.
>We find Cap leading the Avengers. He’s tutoring or mentoring Scarlet Witch in the beginning of the movie and bringing her into the fold.
>mfw this thread and that video
Lads I'm hyped as fuck
>>81236393
So DaddyHawk and Steve-Sensei?
>>81236339
Thor has no wife cuck
>>81227311
That is pretty remarkable. Most movies have to cut from about a 3 hour first cut.
But AoU as so many obvious executive meddling that im glad feige kicked them out
>>81236134
>You put a problem in front of him and he solves it right away.
may work when it comes to brute force but the problems he had to face were different, Cap is seen as an simple man eventhough he isn't, he wanted to be part of war and fight for what is right, the war shaped Cap and made his believes stronger, meanwhile superman can't be seen as the simple man from kansas, he is too different from others, he can't inspire people because his problems are different than others, he is more like a fix point, an almighty power which can solve all problems and yet can destroy everything and people will fear him as soon as something goes wrong, as soon as they remember he could destroy a whole country if he wanted to.
Superman doesn't inspire people like Cap, he takes control through his powers and kindness over people, he is so distant from others, so far away. Batman is like the only person who doesn't see superman as the almighty being other people see in him.
>>81233170
Calling a bad movie shit isn't a meme
>>81232602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg7dEWNi4PU
Here's a Cap video since we're talking about him being best boy.
>Spider-Man being on Tony's side means he probably told SHIELD his identity
>mfw the only person in the MCU who has a legit secret identity is Daredevil
>>81236553
What's the context of this picture
>>81235293
>Olivia Wilde will never cuddle with you in the middle of the night
I am going to kill myself.
>>81236492
Got it a bit mixed up, but the woman playing Sif did it.
Interviewer: Yeah…so how hard was it not to just touch what Kenneth Branagh aptly describes as that ‘awe inspiring” chest every so often?
Jaimie Alexander: Oh no, I would always go up to him like, ‘Hey what’s up how you doing?’ slapping him on the chest. Sometimes my hand would linger a little too long, or I would stare at him and they were like, ‘That’s okay, you’re just in character.’ And I was like, ‘Yeah…that’s why I’m doing it.’
And on the set of The Avengers everyone was ga-ga over Chris Hemsworth's build and spent as much time admiring and touching him as filming.
>>81236633
Some nigga parked in front of homeboy's house and he came out to see what the fuck they want
>>81236553
A few people know who DD is too. I'm sure Spidey only told Tony and the Avengers, if anyone. Also, Iron Fist is coming.
Honestly, it's such a tired trope at this point. Think about how many episodes of Arrow and the Flash it has dragged. Sure, not every writer's room is the out-house of the CW, but there's not a lot of variation to play with.
So what's after Infinity Wars? Secret Wars? Is Spidey going to get the symbiote then? If not then when will he get it?
>>81228321
Ant-Man's microverse was apparently a hint at some stuff that we're gonna see in Dr. Strange
>>81233118
James Gunn has lots of interview bits complaining about Focus Groups and how useless they are.
>>81227689
This is true. Even though there was exec meddling and a lot of arguing over what scenes stayed, he owned the under preformance of it. Damn...Snyder is makinf Whedon look good
>>81236774
They really need to stop after Infinity War. They can't keep this going forever, people are already starting to burn out on cape films.
>>81229364
I wonder how they will do the sash.
Will they drop it completely or make it a raised element of the costume or what?
>>81236800
So did Agent Carter, very tangentially.
I think that Ant-Man was a test drive for the weird effects. GotG and Thor also had a bunch of those, but not as expansive.
>>81236843
I don't think they should stop, but they should:
>Take it easy, release just one solo hero movie per year (and let Sony do their thing with Spiderman)
>Stop Avengers movies at least for 10 years, another large threat so soon would really undermine Thanos
And some people would disagree with me but they should make Tony and Steve the protagonists in Infinity War and kill Tony at the end. Make it a call back to the first Avengers where he was willing to sacrifice himself, except this time he dies for real. It would be a worthy end to the MCU that RDJ began.
>>81236695
Too bad we don't have more stories of men having their way with sexy women. Then again, they're mostly boring shit everyone's heard over and over.
>>81236999
>And some people would disagree with me but they should make Tony and Steve the protagonists in Infinity War and kill Tony at the end. Make it a call back to the first Avengers where he was willing to sacrifice himself, except this time he dies for real. It would be a worthy end to the MCU that RDJ began.
I actually agree with you completely. That'd be such a great send off for Tony/Robert.
>>81236999
I'd say both Tony and Cap should sacrifice theselves in their fight with Thanos. It would be a great and emotional end to their two biggest heroes, that would then make way for the new generation.
Have this scene but with Stark and Cap.
>>81227056
He is at his best when outside his comfort zone. The more serious stuff involving Wanda, Pietro, Vision, and Cap provides the best moments. There's alot of great stuff that got cut out.
>>81237083
I'd be down with that.
>>81236843
>They really need to stop
They don't need to stop at all (not like they will to be honest), they just have to introduce a new order/status quo to build from
>>81237083
Yeah, that could work. Honestly, a well-done "pottery" cheesy but also poignant sacrifice from Tony and Steve would make Infinity War billions.
>>81236999
>>81236843
I really think they should take it easy after Infinity War, but after looking at their plan of having Inhumans after IW and then 3 movies in 2020.
It looks like they have no intentions of slowing down
>>81236265
It wasn't the kids that were stupid. The next page goes on with Bruce Time saying that B:TAS focus tested poorly too, but he ignored the pressure to change it.
>>81237229
Not stop making movies in general, just stop the Avengers movies for a few years. Just focus on stand-alone movies for a while. No more big crossovers for a few years.
>>81237134
>>81227056
I have a feeling that Whedon uses humor as a fallback to make himself feel happy since he described the entire process as a nightmare with executives pounding at his head all the time. And with the amount of stupid humor and how hoarse his voice sounded, I assume it wasn't a pleasant experience.
>>81237241
Yeah, the box office will probably be insane for part 2 if that happens.As long as the DCEU doesn't crash the cape genre with no survivors.
>>81228102
The JJ works really well in it though. Not sure why they left out DD though
>Huge event that the whole cinematic universe has been leading up to, for over 11 years and featuring characters from 22 movies, ends in a epic grand finale
>2 months immediately after we get another movie and they expect people to care about another group of superheroes
I feel like Infinity Wars will be the peak popularity of comic book moives.
>>81237685
>Villain is just a mob boss
>powers didn't really lead to too much mass destruction
>>81228774
Of course it did. Hiroshima was efficient in the worst possible way. Death is not expensive, war is. Battle of NY should have cost more per person.
>>81237790
Man, that list of directors is fucking great. It's like they went for my favorite movies and grabbed them all. Can't wait for Thor 3 and Black Panther.
Wonder who they'll get for Captain Marvel. The only female directors that I know and like is Kathrine Bigelow and Tina Fey. And neither of which are really great for this sort of thing.
>>81229585
Worth a watch, its enjoyable but not that good
>>81237353
This is the first thread I've seen in over a year where Whedon is being described as a creator with a large body of work of varying quality and some real flaws rather than movie Hitler.
>>81238169
We have a new low, so by the law of absolutes, everyone else is perfect for a while.
You've suffered enough, Joss. In about 3 months when people start the 'Unpopular Opinion' threads about how BvS is the 8th wonder of the world, I'm sure you'll have enough insults coming your way, you pretentious asshole.
>>81238169
It's been some time since AoU so we're not as easily triggered anymore.
>>81238169
And I think his way of saying that there would be no director's cut is him actually saying "Fuck that. I'm done with Marvel Studios for now. Let me do my own thing and go off the radar."
>>81233715
WHEN DO WE GET SEXTAPE REEEEE
>>81238314
Like, a sex-tape of them in-character? Or as themselves?
>>81230887
Part of the problem is why was ultron quipping? Why was he pissed off when compared to Stark? Cause he was supposed to be based on his brain waves but that had to be cut cause the time limit. Whedon should have cut some of the action in the final battle for more story. I dont know whether execs or he wanted that much but it drags on
>>81238356
I like beards so as themselves would be better.
But it's all good.
>>81238356
>Cap biting the pillow
>>81227374
I think all these should have stayed in, but especially the third one. In the final cut at the end when the helicarriers go down, Widow asks Pierce "how do you feel about Rogers' chances now?" or something like that
>>81238418
Since they show Stark's images being analyzed separately and before the Avengers, I thought it was clear that he modeled himself after him first and foremost. He cracked them because that's how Tony does. Thing is, he gets put in more desperate situations that Tony, but his style of jokes is the exact same as every Whedon character, which is annoying.
As shit got more serious for him, he should've slowed down and gotten more macabre jokes, but he ended with 'with the benefit of hindsight' for example, and that's such a cliche.
Also a throwaway line at the beginning might have made things more clear as to why they shared personalities, but I think that showing his pics first, the "one second before me" line and "where you do thinks he gets his personality?" at the end were enough. Not for some people, I think.
One of the problems of the movie is that it wasn't streamlined enough, it had a lot of explanation at different times, but it was too much for people to grab it all at the first go because it was interrupted by quips. He also failed to give people the sense that at least there was something that got by them, like the Russos manage to do. Even if you don't hear it, you know what was said because of the reaction.
The Russos are great at doing the latter, which is why Arrested Development and early Community are great sitcoms.
A lot of it had to do with timing, too. Whedon pauses before and after the jokes, so you see them coming a mile away, and disregard them as just another quip, even though a couple had some characterization in them.
Waititi does comedic timing better than all of them. He basically sucker-punches you with jokes and becomes infinitely funnier to watch his stuff multiple times, despite not being as joke-dense as the Russos's stuff.
So, Tony is objectively right, right?
>>81238760
Tony is the only retard arguing.
Steve just wants to save his friend from the objectively bad guys trying to kill someone without proof of the UN bombings.
>>81233644
Great scene but didnt need to be in the movie. Good choice to cut it
>>81233715
Does anyone have that gif/webm of Evans laughing at Cavill for eating Girl Scout Cookies?
>>81239061
I only have the picture.
>>81226616
That was fucking amazing.
>>81237083
That would be perfect.
>we'll lose
>then we'll do that together
>>81239222
I want Chris Evans to passionately fuck me in missionary while I molest his incredible pecs all night long.
>>81239222
Evans can't stop laughing at people.
Guys new tv spots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YoUCT5KdHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWcIQe_CIQQ
>>81239306
>in missionary
You disgust me anon. Go back to /d/.
>>81239325
>No Spider-Man
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>81239330
I'll ride him in cowgirl position just as eagerly, as long as I can look into his face and keep my hands on his chest.
>>81228519
I know this post is old as fuck but I heard several rumors floating around that Yvonne Strahovski was being eyed for the role of Captain Marvel.
>>81227857
You're a moron.
>>81239325
Okay when Falcon says "Where'd they find this guy?" I am 99% sure he is saying this in the airport fight and he is talking about Spider-Man.
He's already met all the other people on Tony's side and he's already shown to met Black Panther earlier in the movie.
Falcon knows everyone on his team already.
The only other person he can be talking about is Spider-Man.
>>81239490
Internet rumors or "I know a guy whose dad works at Nintendo" rumors?
>>81239659
Probably. Tony's "I was wrong about you. The whole world was wrong about you" is probably about Bucky, too, when he realizes he's not such a bad guy
>>81239754
Combination of both. She's may be on the shortlist though
>>81239867
The Russos said that the teams won't team up in Civil War.
>>81239903
She was outright asked at one of NerdHQ's panels. She was a bit coy and said she couldn't talk about it, so she maybe auditioned/campaigned for it.
>>81239968
Is she a good actress?
>>81239968
Link?
>>81240018
She's alright. I've never seen her do anything incredible or anything, but she was never written to, so I don't know.
>>81240046
I think it was in one of the 2014 panels. You'll have to search it, I'm not sure. Makes sense considering they played around with casting Captain Marvel for the Ultron ending, so maybe they already have her/auditioned for her.
Damn this trailer brings things together. There may have been bad movies and poorly executed ideas but grabbing the best really showsbits strengths.
It almost makes me think that this was all planned after iron man 2. I doubt they were that forward looking but this trailer makes it seem they are
>>81227311
>>81227374
Also, Hawkeye was supposed to appear in this movie.
>>81240184
Having Loki's Spectre contain the Mind Gem, which somehow makes Avengers 1 seem weird in retrospect, shows how much they're doing this out of their asses.
Even the Gauntlet in Thor 1 shows this
>>81239903
If you had hopes on this, you are going to be disappointed. Don't ask me how I know, but Marvel want someone younger.
>>81240303
Still more of a plan than the other guys though, What with Fox just continuing to make more movies until their continuity is so snarled they actually have to reboot their movieverse, and DC haphazardly turning their Man of Steel sequel into a Man of Steel sequel with Batman, into Batman v Superman, into Batman v Superman Dawn of Justice: featuring the Justice League.
>>81240303
It seems awkward even without retrospect. The other 3 stones are established as the most powerful objects in the known universe. The Mind Stone's mind control is outdone by the Purple Man.
Hell, if the trailers are any indication, Wanda is more powerful than a being that is currently using the stone.
>>81237790
>Amy Pascal still has her hands on Spider Man
>>81227668
It's a word. They just used it wrong. "For the nonce" means "for this occasion" or "just this time".
>>81238074
>The only female directors that I know and like
>Tina Fey
>like
>>81227668
In British slang, 'nonce' means paedophile.
>>81241265
>Purple Man got his powers from mind gem scrapings being injected into his brain
>>81227136
How did whedon make a better superman than Snyder?
>>81241265
When has the Mind Stone been actually used the way it's supposed to be used? The Reality and Space Stones haven't even been used in the way they're described.
>>81243060
No one in the movies have been able to use the stones effectively besides the Celestial's, Thanos, and the Asgardians.
>>81227773
He's talkingNonce Sense
>>81242907
This.
Vision was the best thing to come from AoU. He was a new formed god that still was more a person than an alien raised bynow dead parents
>>81243060
The other stones being used "improperly" were still way more dangerous. Ronan could survive a hit from the Hadron Enforcer with barely a scratch when he had his. The Space Stone allowed Hydra to nearly conquer the world through brute force even if no one really understood it. The Aether made Jane super powerful even though she wasn't even consciously using it.
The Mind Stone's Mind powers were blocked by Tony's arc reactor. Vision, who is supposedly more advanced than any human, and has the mind stone as part of him, is debateably as powerful as Wanda or Thor. Nothing the Mind Stone has done even hints at it being in the same league as the others.
>>81227998
Crashing this plane...with future survivors!
>>81241265
Olsen said something to the effect she's Vision's kryptonite since her powers are also derived from the stone. She's super effective.
>>81242059
It's Avi Arad you should be worried about.
>>81243556
What dead parents?
>>81228990
Olsen has the ethereal and frail appearance that perfectly fits Wanda.
Tits are secondary, but Olsen's Olsen twins are more than capable.
>>81229597
T'challa is raging at his dad being brown breaded, his in irrational rage mode.
>>81244900
Thor
>>81230314
That scene happens before the fight. Cap and Tony are meeting in the middle of the airport while their teams stand away like football teams at a coin toss.
>>81236492
Sif is Thor's wife in Norse mythology. That might be where he got that. The comics/movies fucked up a lot of the mythology.
>>81230314
Well, Spider-man first run into the Avengers showed he was considered an "ace" hero and an evil robot clone that was 1:1 with Peter Parker kicked their asses.
>>81226616
What's with Stark's armor? Sometimes it can take on a direct tank shot head on or Thor's hammer full force, while other times his suits gets damaged by Cap's shield attacks or Ultron's most simple of attacks.
>>81236999
>>81237083
If there's a final Avengers sacrifice in the end with Cap and Iron Man, Thor better be there too. He's not as popular as Cap or Iron man but its the Big Three, not two.
There's way more stories to tell with Thor, but there's no way they'll do more Thor after IW2. Let him go down an Avenger with Cap and Iron Man.
>>81237790
Captain Marvel between the Avengers War part 1 and 2 could make sense, like a semi-cosmic adventure to find a way to defeat Thanos, but what the fuck will Ant-Man have to do between those movies?
>>81247198
Exactly what he did for Age of Ultron
A national threat at best that gives people a break from THE UNIVERSE IS AT STAKE! drama.
>>81247258
Yeah, but Age of Ultron ended with Ultron defeated and the world "safe" again.
Queue time for fun shinanigans
But in theory, Infinity War will end with an earth invasion or some other serious shit.
>>81226616
I have a feeling that the cut between Bucky raising a weapon and Roadie getting shot out of the sky is intentionally designed to mislead us, as it was also present in the official trailer.
>>81247652
No shit sherlock
>>81230606
Maybe she filmed a scene with Tilda for post-credits?
>>81228584
>He believed that
GoTG2, Doc Strange, Ragnarok and Captain Marvel will be all related to infinity war somehow. Civil War will probably set the ground for the final part avengers team.
I expect IW to be a crossover between the avengers and the guardians with that 1 billion budget. Either if gunns wants it or not, Drax and the guardians will go after Thanos.
also
>calling themselves the guardians of the galaxy
>not going after the biggest threat to the galaxy that it is Thanos with the infinity gautlet like the guardians they are;
It's not like the current Starlord will just sit idle when Thanos go after his planet. He will get the word of it somehow.
>>81247966
That's what I'm thinking. She could possibly have a small role in Doctor Strange like Falcon had a role in Ant-Man.
>>81244278
How is her power derived from the stone? Isn't she a inhuman? Wasn't she born with those powers because of kree technology?
>>81248054
> He will get the word of it somehow.
Like he got word of the Chitauri invasion?
>>81248353
Her powers were derived from HYDRA experiments with the Mind Stone.
>>81248353
Did u not see Age of Ultron
>>81248390
>>81248413
Oh fuck... Yeah? Hell, now I'm confused. Agents of Shield keep talking about muh twins and muh twins because they were... Inhumans? I remember something about HYDRA trying to wake inhumans powers and killing them in the proccess, and only the twins survived...
So, the twins are not inhuman, in the end? I thought the mind stone ended up triggering their powers.
>>81248378
I knew someone would brought it up, i'm talking about after GoTG Peter. Not the one who didn't give a fuck and had no way to know his home world was under attack.
>>81248623
At what point in GotG did he start communicating with or paying attention to earth again?
>>81248700
Probably the gap between the end of the guardians of the galaxy and the second movie, you dense motherfucker.
You know, the point when they started calling themselves the guardianz? Or you just think that he will go after his daddy and the movie will be just it, space pirates for redditors? Getting involved with the infinity war doesnt mean they just exist because of the avengers. Getting involved with it is just common sense.
>>81235932
Cap believes in Wanda, and he is the first to truly see her potential.
Also, given her powers are connected to her emotions, Cap is the best mentor for her, as he will inspire her to overcome her lack of confidence and not give up.
It's an uphill struggle but Cap's gonna get her up that mountain.
>>81244278
Does anybody else like how they've been subtly having Vision and Wanda be relevant to each other? Even as far as this movie as it looks like
>>81248507
I'm pretty sure they're supposed to not be Inhuman but also "totally not mutans" either
>>81248953
>Probably the gap between the end of the guardians of the galaxy and the second movie, you dense motherfucker.
So in other words just baseless speculation on your part
>>81233708
TONY HELP SHE'S CHAOS-ING THE FUCK OUT OF ME!!! AAH NO TONY I KIND OF LIKE IT OOOH YES PUNISH ME WANDA!!
>>81227881
Nonce is more of a general term, like wanker or cunt.
>Quit being a fuckin' nonce Dave
>>81235932
> Lost your family
> The life you knew, gone
> Your world/country has gone forever; you're homesick but can't go home
> Being Steve or Wanda is suffering
>>81249072
>baseless speculations
You say like Gunn own these characters and he has is the final word, or Gunn's strings isn't pulled by some marvel executives, Marvel will give what the people want, period. You could say that Peter opening his mother last letter is just a subtle way of Peter reconnecting to earth.
Point is, Gunn didn't want Thanos in his movie either, but he had to put him there. Infinity War will feature the guardians, they have no real reason not to. And it will make totally sense in retrospect, and you will like it.
>>81249274
Yeah good job changing the subject entirely fag
>>81249053
The inhuman explanation made more sense for me. You know, ok, mind stone on Wanda and she gets mind powers, but them you have quicksilver and his superspeed.
The mind stone being a mist replacement that awakened their sleeper cell superpowers, because they were inhumans just makes more sense.
>>81245912
>What's with Stark's armor? Sometimes it can take on a direct tank shot head on or Thor's hammer full force, while other times his suits gets damaged by Cap's shield attacks or Ultron's most simple of attacks.
Each variation of the Stark armor becomes thinner, smaller to assemble pieces. The Mark I was scrap metal. The Mark II his first choice alloy. The III and IV used the same. They also took JARVIS to assemble to suit on Tony for the most part. The V was a quickie suit which wasn't meant for more than quick use in the moment. Even the VI retained a lot of JARVIS assembling the suit to a fair degree.
VII was a full shell to assemble around Stark. VIII was completely modular, more vulnerable but also doesn't take JARVIS or a full shell to assemble around Stark. 9 to 42 were all more specialized.
The more you turn a large shield into smaller pieces to assemble into the same shield, you risk vulnerability and pieces chipping away.
>>81244278
Chaos Magic would be Vision's kryptonite, as it's very nature is anti-logic. Chaos is something a being of logic can't counter very well.
The telekinesis and mind shit is derived from augmentations given by the mind stone. But Chaos Magic is the engine of those powers.
Tekekinesis cannot break vibranium, whereas Chaos Magic can make it do that.
Chaos Magic is like Windows; all powers ("apps") run through it.
>>81249443
>You know, ok, mind stone on Wanda and she gets mind powers, but them you have quicksilver and his superspeed.
because Whedon a shit, that's why.
>>81226616
It's so authentic OP even to the point that it promises a more epic story before slapping you with the quipfest like Iron Man 3 and AoU did
>>81249389
I'm not changing any subject. It is what it is.
Changing the subject is what Gunn is doing every time someone asks about guardians in the infinity war, what makes you fags think they will not be in it, when in reality they totally will be in it.
He doesn't want people to watch the guardians just because of the avengers, and he doesn't his vision to be stuck on what happens on earth, and its alright, ok, he's not wrong. But this is just not true. Everything points towards a crossover between the two teams, it's not up to him. Lets pretend that Drax dialogue about going after Thanos was not shoehorned by some big fish at marvel studios for a potential cameo/crossover on infinity war.
The second movie will not totally have some references and will set the ground for something in infinity war.
Let's pretend that Thanos will not totally grabs the power stone on the second movie of guardians of the galaxy just because the director doesn't want to spoil his own movie and doesn't want to question these kind of answers.
>>81249443
ButThe Othergave Loki the scepter.The Otheris to Wanda what Ultron is to Vision. Vessels.Chthonis a legendary rusemaster and mega-troll.
>>81249643
answer these kinds of question*
>>81249503The Otherwas shown being super fast.
>>81249643
I never said Guardians won't be in infinity war you dumb shit. I merely said you have no reason to believe Starlord is monitoring earth in any way. Instead of providing a reason you changed the subject and started talking about how they will definitely be in infinity war. Which again, I never said wouldn't happen.
Maybe at some point they decide to pay attention to earth. I don't know, and neither do you. I'd say it's more likely that they either follow Thanos to earth, or find out that's where he's going and decide to get there first. Since, you know, they have two team members with personal vendettas against Thanos and zero who are interested in earth.
>>81249643
The Guardians will be in Infinity War (most likely Part 1 contrary to popular assumptions), but I think GotG2 will be self-contained up until the end.
>>81249869
That's why I said at first "get word of it somehow", he might or might not be interested in earth, I just believe that unlike before, maybe now he gives a fuck. He comes in terms with his past at the end of the first movie, I don't see reasons to why he would keep running from it.
>>81249896
I do believe that its plot will be self contained too, but not the ending.
>>81227631
That'll be hype as fuck
>>81250082
The thing he was running from was admitting that his mom was dead. He still has no reason to care about earth now. And as far as we know, has no means of being warned if the earth is being invaded.
>>81250187
Ok. Lets first watch the second movie, this discussion has no point. I don't disagree with you that up until now, he doesn't give a fuck about earth. I just think that, together with coming in terms with his mother's death, he will start getting interested on what happens or do no on Earth. Who fucking knows.
>>81228682
>It's something that's made to move toward future cosmic movies
Mar-Vell, Nova, and Phylla inbound
>>81249053
I think its them being outsiders and being lost as fuck, trying to discover who they are, and why they are.
Vision does not know what the fuck he is. Wanda does not know what the fuck she us becoming.
Vision connects to the "weird" part of Wanda, Clint connects to the "normal" part of Wanda.
>>81250284
I say he's less interested if anything since his mom was the only person on earth that he missed at all. Like Yondu said, if he had cared about earth at all nothing was ever stopping him from going back.
>>81250356
>So finally, after all these years, you truly are Marvel's Captain America, Civil War.
Walked out of the theater with my wife's son right then and there.
>>81230595
>He still has yet to say "Avengers Assemble"
FUCKING WHEDON
>>81244278
>Olsen said something to the effect she's Vision's kryptonite
I hope they translate that relationship from the comics to the films.
>>81233644
>Terra didn't win the Cap bowl
>>81235193
Phylla?Carol?
>>81228331
One of the framed newspapers in Daredevil read "Hundreds killed". So I think it's a specific type of casualty being listed there. Probably deaths caused directly by the Avenger's actions i.e. knocking a Chitauri into a building and accidentally killing the people inside
>>81249021
Not to mention that Wanda's gonna get some sick magic CQC out of it
>>81250760
It'll be more amazing when he shouts it in Infinity War pt. IIOr not; when they put that scene in the fucking trailer and ruin it
>>81234914
Plus Bucky is the only thing left of his old, happy life.
>>81235193
Cameo??"hey, Peter Quill, my name is Mar-Vell. You say you come from Earth? Now way! My wife, Carol, came from there as well"
>>81230606
> She mentions two actors who both happen to be in Doctor Strange, by first name,implying they were upper in her mind because she had recently met them.
>>81250760
I fully believe they're saving it for a climactic moment in IW
>>81228519
Katherine Winnick is the only right casting choice... she even kinda looks like Carol (from her Mrs Marvel days not the bulldyke we have right now)
>>81249053
They are creations of the High Evolutionary
>>81239325
why do they have the 90's like trailer narration? it made it seem incredibly funny
>>81256992
Yeah, with TV spots they usually have that dude narrating. It's pretty funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGMNmKOZrNk
>>81236535
Then you just lack taste.
>>81228600
Any word on Mar-Vell? I fully expect him to die in the film if he's in it, but I want him in it and to die with class.
I imagine something like he gets to Earth already dying from a confrontation with Thanos, and the film is him mentoring Carol before the end comes.
>>81257624
I don't think they said anyting about Mar-Vell yet, no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2VoJuVfbjI
Skip to 13:38, he talks a bit about the Captain Marvel movie.
>>81226792
I mean that's sort of a reverse-nijutsu Lex Luthor quote or something. I'm surprised they "got away" with it and nobody called it a rip off.
>Why don't you put the whole world in a suit of armor, Iron Man?
>>81226616
>Captain America will fight this hard for his nakama
I sure hope mommy and daddy make up at the end of the day.
Help a filthy casual out.
I haven't watched a Marvel movie or followed any news for a good while. I saw everything but Hulk for phase 1. Phase 2 I only saw Iron Man 3 (pretty good), Thor 2 (holy shit terrible) and GotG (very fun).
Which of the remaining phase 2 movies should significantly contribute to understanding/appreciating Civil War?
I'm guessing Winter Soldier is a given, but is it any good?
Maybe AoU? No clue what that one's even about, was off capes at the time and just heard it wasn't great.
Ant-Man I figure is fine to backburn as a 'check it out if you like him in CW (assuming he's in it)' type deal.
And am I even right in getting a sense that Civil War will be super worth it?
>>81227136
But see, just that he'd have the earnestnest to play that scene entirely straight, one of the scenes that will appear the most goofy outside of context... Fucking hell, this is both light and serious.
Also there's a quip at the end.
>>81258221
Cap: First Avenger, Avengers 1, Winter Soldier, and Avengers: AoU are the only thing that contribute in any major way
>>81258221
>I'm guessing Winter Soldier is a given, but is it any good?
Yes. I'm not even a fan as much as other people but it's the consensus best MCU movie.
>Maybe AoU? No clue what that one's even about, was off capes at the time and just heard it wasn't great.
I liked it. Your mileage may vary a lot depending on how much quips can ruin the experience for you I guess. And it leads pretty directly into this, especially from Iron Man's standpoint.
>Ant-Man I figure is fine to backburn as a 'check it out if you like him in CW (assuming he's in it)' type deal.
Yeah he'll be in it but not central to the story in any way. The post credit scene thought is basically the last "important" thing that happens before this movie. So maybe just watch that.
>>81258368
Also
>And am I even right in getting a sense that Civil War will be super worth it?
I wouldn't really bet on it, but could be. Honestly watching just a coule of pretty fun movies isn't really too demanding.
>>81230627
he was a disney villain in the movie
>>81258401
>Honestly watching just a coule of pretty fun movies isn't really too demanding.
Urgh. Fiiiine.
>>81258368
>>81258401
>>81258459
(But for real, thank you very much).
>>81258452
You're saying that like it's a bad thing.
>>81258221
>I'm guessing Winter Soldier is a given, but is it any good?
Best MCU movie, at least for me.
>>81258481
No sweat homie.
Two new CW images.
>>81251378
>>81253191
I thought about that possibility, but James Gunn said Carol would NOT be on GotG 2.
http://screenrant.com/guardians-of-the-galaxy-2-captain-marvel/
Then again, that was in 2014 and maybe he changed his mind. I would freak the fuck out if Debicki is Carol and they are introducing her in GotG2.
>>81226616
>There is no montage of Captain America's plot set to the Metal Gear Solid 2 theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiPon8lr48U
>>81233170
I just watched it for the first time last week. It really wasn't that great. Though honestly I just didn't like Ultron, everything else was good though. When the weakest part of your movie is the main villain though... not so good.
>>81258534
>I really wish I wasn't here right now
>>81230297
The ultron drones where so much more cooler looking than the prime version.
I hate that he has lips.
>>81258548
You sad about dying this movie?
I'm being completely serious when I ask this.
Does Winter Soldier have any flaws at all? I can't think of a single aspect where it performs less than spectacularly.
Writing, editing, acting, effects, choreography, even the end credit sequence and musical score are perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgZ_0msKRAE
>>81260062
>Does Winter Soldier have any flaws at all?
Not really a flaw but Nick Fury dying and then not dying is a trope i really hate.
>>81260110
i totally agree, but i will say they did a great job of selling his death but also leaving hints for later viewings that it wasn't pulled out of nowhere. right when they "call it" a doctor comes in and injects him with the tetrodetoxin.
i liked how the honest trailers for this movie said that nobody actually died.
>fury? still alive
>bucky? still alive
>crossbones? still alive
>zola? still alive, but then killed
>>81260062
Nick Fury escaping through the pavement was an ass-pull. The Russos admitted as much in the directors commentary. You should listen to them, they seriously know what they are doing.
After the leave Marvel I wouldn't be surprised if they start putting out genuine masterpieces. They have a very tight control on what they do, they leave almost nothing out of their movie (hence why the extras are a bit weak).
>>81258534
>Now this is NOT podracing
>>81260263
it might've been an asspull, but i bought it
the suv was self automated, ridiculously bulletproof, had a machinegun/grenade launcher combo in the arm rest, and was capable of flight. having a laser torch in the glove box is within the realm of possibility. that maria hill did the same thing to escape the hydra murder convoy cemented my acceptance of it as "just another shield gadget"
is it a good commentary? i might give it a listen
>>81260373
It's a great documentary. They've really put a lot of thought into it. I'ts a bit busy, since there's four of them.
>>81260373
I really enjoyed that commentary and I usually don't listen to them.
They say some interesting stuff.
>>81260591
commentary, derp
James Gunn' is also a bit self-analytical and goes into why he did a bunch of things, but it's more personal and less technical.
Whedons' from AoU is very funny cause you can tell the dude is tired and frustrated with the movie as fuck. Only noteworthy part from that one is that he used a Wolf a Ram and a Hart for the mysterious creatures in Thor's dream, which is something from the Buffyverse.
>>81230380
It's Tony Stark, he's a fuckup.
>>81226616
I'm can't decide if I'm impressed or baffled over how long it took the government to step in.
>>81260649
I liked Whedon's Avengers commentary and how it was essentially 2 hours of making fun of himself.
>>81260702
The first one? Never watched it.
They are hard as fuck to find. I can only get them by downloading the full Bluray, but that's 40Gb +.
Some swede should rip them and put them all in a youtube channel or a torrent.
>>81260747
Yeah I also had to download one of those 30+ GB torrents for the TWS commentary.
I'm waiting for a Cap trilogy boxset so I didn't want to buy the blu-ray just yet. Hopefully they'll do boxsets for the trilogies, those full phases boxsets look really nice but I'm not gonna spend that kind of money for Thor 2 and Iron Man 3. I just want the Captain America movies.
>>81260832
>Hopefully they'll do boxsets for the trilogies
The are yet to do it for Iron Man, why would cap be any different?
>>81260938
I was thinking they'd wait for all trilogies to be complete, but I guess there is a high possibility that they won't do it.
Sucks, would've liked something like that.
>>81260747
>>81260832
Why not...buy the thing? It's probably like 5 bucks.
i kinda want the phase 1 and 2 box sets
the unified cover art appeals to my autism
are the extras pretty good for each film?
>>81230595
I don't care if he lifts Mjolnir, I just want *that* scene from Infinity Gauntlet
>>81232842
You know how lawyers try to make sure no one who can think or knows anything is on a jury?
It's kind of like that.
>>81261046
I only watched the TWS extras, I liked the "on the front lines" video they did.
https://www.videoup.org/v/sghn4oj9j-meet-the-real-action-heroes/
There's also this cool video about the stunts in TWS I found, not sure where it's from.
>>81261046
>phase 1 goes for $350 on amazon, even more on ebay
fucking shit
This was a great thread
>>81250082
I think the epilogue will be heavily connected to Thanos (who is probably in Asgard at the time of GotG2), though he won't appear.
>>81233118
>>81237275
Where can I find the entirety of this?
>>81237790
No more Captain America movies?!
>>81238074
Kathrine Bigelow does great action movies, but there's nothing "cosmic" about them, even Strange Days felt very down to earth.
How about Lexi Alexander? I liked Punisher War Zone a whole lot.
>>81261159
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3bv6j4
Here's the On the Front Line featurette, really good.
>>81261711
Isn't her the one that said that the skull on Punisher was a dumb idea? I think we'd need someone more creative and/or more cosmic inclined. Perhapsa man.
>>81234135
I hope you never discover the world of homosexual fans of divas who have bloody Mariah vs Whitney vs Celine battles.
>>81227197
I didnt like Age of Ultron, wont watch Civil War, but it is unfair to compare Whedon to Snyder.
Whedon isnt awful, Age of Ultron was a mediocre 5/10, not a complete disaster like Batman vs Superman. And the first Avengers movie was decent enough.
>>81231606
Honestly I hate to say it but I don't see cap leading the charge on thanos
I see the team falling apart in the aftermath of civil war, enough to get steamrolled by thanos in infinity war 1
Then we get captain marvel, who is able to unify the team and do what she does the best, a full frontal cosmic assault
>>81261920
I don't think she was a Punisher fan at all, but regardless of what her opinions were she respected the comics enough to pull shit directly from it.
>>81262355
Yeah, but there's not a lot in the comics to draw from, for Carol. I'm actually curious to what they can put to screen.
>>81258534
"Would you like fries with that?"
>>81231683
>Taking a Stand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j_xFA4Fi2o
>>81262431
>but there's not a lot in the comics to draw from, for Carol
She didn't write the movie, bro. Most directors in the MCU aren't writing their respective movies.
There's more than enough to pull from the comics for an origin movie for Carol-- a decent origin is practically all Carol's got going for her.
Punisherfags things wanted a very specific thing, something all 15 year olds want. And from what I understand she gave it to them, it was just the writing in between them that was shite.
>>81262668
Fair enough. What about Michelle McLaren, she wanted a talking tiger in Wonder Woman, she should be weird enough. God knows how much better BvS would've been with a talking tiger.
>>81260062
The pavement hole scene. The vending machine scene. The fact that Avengers were unaware of the whole affair. The way Fury's death was handled. These are just off the top of my head.
It's a good, fun movie, but if you think it has no flaws, you are being delusional fanboy. No movie is perfect. You can enjoy every aspect of it (hell, there are people right now arguing that every part of BvS was handled masterfully), but that doesn't mean plenty of stuff couldn't have been done better.
In the end, the only thing that matters is whether the good bits work well enough to overshadow those that are lacking. The core themes, the plot and the characters all essentially work, making it an enjoyable experience.
>>81262431
Carol has her origin, Claremont's run, Reed's run, and the ongoing they've got going for her now. She has enough stories for a movie, and if they keep her current creative team, she'll be doing well when it comes to a sequel.
>>81263513
>The fact that Avengers were unaware of the whole affair.
At what point would they have noticed? The best clue they would have is probably seeing Cap arrested on the news. It wasn't like Hydra was broadcasting its presence in a way Iron Man would know. Any Avengers not in DC (I'm guessing all the ones not seem) wouldn't see any of the action firsthand except what gets shown on national news, which might be held up or downplayed by Hydra agents.
A big flaw in that movie was the fucking speech Widow gives at the end, in my eyes. If there's evidence in the info dumped on the internet tying her to crimes, acting all smug about it to inquiring officials isn't going to get her off the hook.
>>81258937
Make it faggot
>>81228488
I wish Marvel would just give up on adapting FF and just negotiate for the rights to Doom. He could function as his own Avengers villain.
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