When exactly did cartoons become an intelligent medium for adult, rational minds?
>Pic unrelated
Swat Cats
>>81214953
No, not that. Something meant for adults like Family Guy.
>Niggas thinking the Dark Ages were named for a regression in intellectual thought.
Always gets me.
>>81215243
This image alone is enough to send any historian into a rage-filled rant
>>81215323
Holy shit, look at that! It's the Wrongest Picture on the Internet!
>>81215323
people always say this, but no one has actually refuted this image
>>81214892
>>81215323
>>81215376
The y axis isn't even fucking labeled, it doesn't mean enough to need refuting.
>>81214892
When kids quit watching them.
>>81214892
>>81214981
Most people would argue 1937
>>81215323
>>81214892
If christianity is why we don't have flying cars, why don't the asians and Africans have them? Christianity didn't make it's way to them until fairly recently, historically speaking. So by that logic, asia and africa should be a thousand years ahead of us.
>>81215376
"Scientific Advancement" is a bullshit non-qualitative measurement that cannot be objectively gauged or charted. We cannot predict what it would look like or what world events or happy coincidences might have happened to further scientific study or hinder them conversely.
Anyone who takes this graph seriously as a legitimate argument deserves to be kicked back down to sixth grade and re-take their schooling because they should've never graduated middle school, let alone be an adult trying to argue science on the internet.
OP knew exactly what he was doing, he knew exactly what posting OP image along would do, and he knew exactly how much worse he'd make it by using the word "Intelligent" along side it.
Shall we use this thread for posting Knights?
>>81215490
What ho, that seems like a splendid idea.
>>81215376
How do you measure scientific advancement on a graph? How many points are each innovation worth?
>>81214892
Christfags really can't take a joke.
>>81215527
So it is agreed, have at thee.
>>81215490
>>81215527
Either make them cartoons or >>>/his/
>>81215549
It's no joking matter.
>>81215376
The Dark Ages were caused by a period of climate change which resulted in civilization falling apart in most of the world as food became scarce.
The Christian and Muslim churches preserved pre-fall western civilization if anything.
>>81215376
The Dark Ages are reflective of a lack of proper and abundant documentation following the fall of the Roman Empire. It literally has nothing to do with progress.
>>81215549
Christfag here
This thread is fucking hilarious
>>81215600
Buddy the whole point of posting pics like this is to waste space until mods either notice a deliberate bait thread, or they delete the whole thing for being off-topic.
Either way we win.
>>81215376
Well for one, the Christian Church was the only reason *any* classical records were preserved during the European Medieval Era. In a lot of towns, the only people who oculd read would be the clergy. Also implying that Jesus caused the fall of Western Rome is retarded.
>>81215600
Isn't this really just the same thing as Carnival posting with what's-his-name? Can't it just slide this time?
>>81215490
DEUS VULT
>>81215641
>cartoons are off topic
Only in your deluded mind
>>81215600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USUucZVnno0
>>81215490
No you're turning this thread into that. Its a shitty meta topic, you could easily make it about how Family Guy isnt mature
I sure love me some comics and cartoons
>>81215628
>The Dark Ages were caused by a period of climate change which resulted in civilization falling apart in most of the world as food became scarce.
This isn't true at all. While Europe fell apart and started throwing shit at each other, the rest of the world was just fine. That period is often referred to as a Golden Age of scientific enlightenment in the Middle East.
>>81215646
In fact the modern university system was patterned off of Christian seminaries, since clergy had to go through a LOT of study and education to be able to interpret and read the Bible and serve their community effectively.
It's only in modern times when European universities even started removing Theology from required curriculum. It used to be that classical study was considered essential for a well-rounded liberal education (in the classic sense of Liberalism).
>>81215477
>If christianity is why we don't have flying cars,
It isn't. Practical application is what keeps us from having flying cars. Many folks who drive shouldn't be. Even more then them should not be allowed to pilot an aircraft. Having that many people flying at one time is insanely retarded.
Thank you knight posters, I almost got sucked in.
>>81215703
>the middle east was in a golden age
Where did they go wrong?
>>81215665
No, he was saying by clogging it with off topic shit, then the mods will delete it for being off topic moron.
>>81215477
I was going to post that but there is a very good explanation, namely the horrible amount of diseases, under population of those areas, mount of still births, plagues etc. The Chinese however did manage to advance, and so did Muslims back then.
One thing though, why do Americans refer it as Christianity, aren't Christianity and Catholicism are two different faiths? What Americans believe in is a protestant or evangelic variant of Christianity derived from Catholicism, thanks to good ol Henry, correct?
I don't know if it revisionism, or a translation error, but I always understood it was the catholic faith which was the most representative in the middle ages.
I just know I am wrong on this, but there are so many variants of Christianity.
>>81215323
Na. I'm a historian and the pick only partly sums it up. See, if it wasn't for Viking raids, Crusades, and the Great Plague the Holy Roman Empire might have sprung Western Europe into a way earlier Renaissance Period. But hey, nobody burns um at the stake quite like the Catholic Church. LOL
>>81215791
Are you a 4chan hall monitor? This is a thread about cartoons and you're filling it with off-topic shit.
If anyone should be banned, it's you.
>>81215789
There was actually a fair bit of scientific advancement going on in Europe at the same time, particularly once Scholasticism developed with the introduction of Aristotle back into European thought.
>>81215801
Catholicism is a denomination of Christianity, I think, and the first.
We're all stupid or just don't care here in America though so they're used interchangeably a lot.
>>81215789
They had kings who were more concerned with enjoying their royal power than being pious Muslims. As such the puritanical forms of Islam didn't dominate.
Without those kings you have the clergy rallying the peasants to their side and the leaders have to bend over backwards to accommodate them.
>>81215838
People are talking about the Dark Ages, not cartoons. OP knew what he was doing, and this thread has happened before.
>>81215376
Yes they have you fucking chest-slapper.
>>81215477
They are in the case of Africa, having struck a technological plateau roughly 2 centuries ago. This afforded them a clearer view of just how terrible technology can be when its advance isn't stemmed by the morals of the people making use of it, and so Africa in its entirety, began a neo-luddite initiative which they still follow to this day.
>>81215813
>I'm a historian
You're lying.
>>81215789
Around XVI century.
Maybe earlier during the fall of Constantinople?
>>81215891
Thanks for your input, Official 4Chan Hall Monitor.
>>81215860
Wasn't a really important astronomer or something funded by a religious figure at the time?
>>81215789
Well you know how Europe turned into a couple hundred years of tribal allegiances and sectarian violence between religious groups after the fall of a strong, centralized group like Rome? The same shit happened when the Ottoman Empire fell after WWI. England and France coming in a drawing arbitrary borders without giving a fuck who lived there probably didn't help either.
>>81214892
it was just a joke, get over it.
>>81215801
Catholicism is basically the root/"original" version of Christianity. What Henry created was the Church of England/Anglicanism.
What most Americans believe in is the Protestant variant that was created by Martin Luther.
>>81214892
>Its a Brian episode.
>>81215789
Mongols fucked their shit up real good
>>81214892
Oh this thread again.
Have we already BTFO this image again?
>>81215944
You're welcome. But besides >>81214953
and >>81214981 nobody has mentioned cartoons.
>>81215801
>One thing though, why do Americans refer it as Christianity, aren't Christianity and Catholicism are two different faiths?
Christianity WAS Catholicism for about 1000 years, barring a few early splits for heretical sects like Arianism. Then the Great Schism happened that separated the Church into the Orthodox and Roman churches.
The split between Roman Catholicism and Protestant sects happened later on, with Reformation figures like Luther and John Calvin leaving to make their own followings, and then Henry VIII declaring himself the new head of the Church in England.
In short though, all of these sects ARE Christian. "Christian" is usually defined as sects that are in accordance with the Nicene creed, which is the oldest declaration of faith we have on record, and drawn up specifically to clarify certain teachings against sects considered to be contrary to the original tradition and teaching of the Apostolic tradition. (Keep in mind the Bible didn't exist yet, although the Gospels were floating around independently for evangelization purposes).
>>81215922
Ha ha ha ha ha ! You're right ! I've always wanted to say that.
>>81215976
I just want to know when cartoons became cerebral and rational versus being just for kids.
I argue that Family Guy was the first mainstream adult cartoon.
>>81216038
Please leave my thread, shitposter.
>>81215980
>Catholicism is basically the root/"original" version of Christianity
Be careful or you might get a bunch of really angry Russians.
>>81215948
Galileo was funded by the Pope; it's something people never mention when they talk about the "Galileo affair".
>>81215948
Almost all scientific study, along with a lot of art patronage, was sponsored by the Church during the Medieval time.
You were educated through the Church usually, and to get the dosh to sponsor your experiments, you either had to be cozy with an aristocratic figure or with the Vatican.
In fact, a lot of what people tend to think of as persecution by the Church against scientists are actually political disputes between the Vatican and other secular leaders and royalty that used their sponsored academics to discredit or attack their opponent.
Dark ages was the worst period of western civilization. At this point they were weaker and less unified than Asia and the middle east. Due to constant wars they repressed technology and were even less technology advanced than the Romans that preceded them (minus steel).
>>81216065
>Please leave my thread, shitposter.
What about all the people talking about not-cartoons? Do you want me to take them with me?
>>81216228
Please do. But start with yourself.
>>81216085
Galileo was pushed by political figures to publish his findings and make big sweeping statements about their importance before the Church felt that he had enough evidence to support it.
They gave him plenty of chances to back down and instead he picked a fight over it, so they were cracking down against the insubordination.
Now we can argue about what kind of authority the church should have over publishing and scientific inquiry, but Galileo was NOT persecuted for just saying that the Earth went around the sun, and in fact stayed a devout Christian until his death.
>>81216201
>Due to constant wars they repressed technology and were even less technology advanced than the Romans that preceded them (minus steel).
You're completely wrong. For one, wars often promote scientific advancement out of necessity, the decline in scientifica knowledge was because barely anyone could read Greek/Latin, which is what everything was written in. Scientific advancement continued in universities, but it was not often put into practice due to the de-urbanized Europe.
>>81216308
Also Galileo was a huge cock about it and acted as insolently as possible when the Church told him to stop.
>>81216047
What I meant is that Catholicism IS the one faith that "brought" forth the persecution caused during the middle ages all the way to through the XVI century, correct? It is weird to see shows like these accuse Christianity given that the religion Americans believe (If the intent is to say modern Christianity is bad) was opposed by the traditional Holy Roman Church, and the church of England to the point they were targets of the inquisition, and Puritan had to left England.
Anyhow what I am getting at is that it seems from my perspective it should say Catholicism and not Christianity. I do not consider them to be the same thing so that I would excuse it, but I was wondering if it was a cultural thing in America I did not know of.
>>81215857
What the fuck nigger!? He just stands there and let's Aurthur get run through. And Mordred's all retarded! He had like a huge window to fucking avoid Excalibur being thrust into his goddamn chest! God FUCK, I haven't seen that movie in so fucking long!
>>81216337
Wars "promote scientific advancement" because the state takes increased control of a nation's resources and forces them to be used to develop new technology. The middle ages featured fuck all in terms of nation states, a likewise little in terms of science.
>>81216413
>What I meant is that Catholicism IS the one faith that "brought" forth the persecution caused during the middle ages all the way to through the XVI century, correct?
Fun fact, a lot of that "persecution" is blown way out of proportion by Protestant historians seeking to discredit Catholicism and the papacy.
Were there abuses of power committed under the political power and bureaucracy of the Medieval church? Oh hell yes there was, just look at some of the documented popes we have.
But things like the supposed "repression" of science or most of what people assume about the Spanish Inquisition is complete bullshit.
>>81216308
>>81216368
Pretty much why Giordano Bruno was persecuted, and why the new cosmos show started off so damn wrong. He had no evidence to support his claims, and he pretty much stated "Fuck the Pope" whenever he could, he happened to be correct though but it was not that the church feared illumination as much as they right out went against anyone who questioned their authority.
The Church was the #1 supporter of the new philosophies even during the renaissance.
>>81216337
But advancement was minimal, even in war.
Tactics and strategies also degenerated after the fall of Rome. A century of legionnaires would easily crush and lance of heavy cavalry due to improved formations and discipline
>>81216435
I think Mordred's supposed to be surprised or something, and Pelinore is told to stay back. As for why Arthur took the blow, I have no idea.
>>81216065
Adult =/= poop jokes
>>81216573
What the executed Bruno for was more due to his heretical beliefs denying the divinity of Christ, among other things.
I mean, yeah the Church shouldn't be executing people just forsaying shit that's wrong and there's a reason why we don't do that anymorebut fuck he was NOT a "martyr for science".
>>81216646
Family Guy is way more than poop jokes. It has politics, pop culture and intelligent themes.
>>81216569
>most of what people assume about the Spanish Inquisition is complete bullshit.
Well Kepler and many other important figures of the time were persecuted, and as far as I know Kepler was not involved in politics to such degree it made any sense to make HIM a target.
It is true nonetheless that as the example above Galileo and Bruno were indeed involved way too deep into politics.
Meister Eckhart received an accusation of heresy by the pope right after his death and his philosophy was not that much against the theology was not that contradictory.
So yeah it is out of proportion, but they were indeed dicks.
>>81215902
Drop mic, end thread.
>>81216727
>intelligent themes
>Family Guy
Like vomiting, violence and child abuse?
>>81214892
the only good thing that came out of that episode was Hot Meg
>>81216817
Yes, you won't see that in kiddie shit like the Simpsons.
This thread is utterly putrid. Absolutely fucking toxicly radioactive.
>>81214892
>that episode where Seth said abuse victims should stay in abusive relationships
>that back pedel the next episode.
>>81216891
And she's not even all that hot. They didn't change her face and Meg's face is fucking ugly. The face is what really matters on a woman, anyway.
It actually works as a pretty apt metaphor for the whole sequence.
>>81216773
IIRC, Kepler got persecuted because he was a Protestant, not because he was a science man who the evil Church wanted to lock away for his evil science ways
>>81216413
America kind of started absorbing all of it's varied faiths under into the unified label of "Christianity", which is part of the reason it has managed to hold on so strongly to the country (previously, all of them kind of held each other back. Now they're all united against evils like atheism. I think maybe some younger American Christians aren't even familiar with the old divisions anymore).
>obvious bait thread
>still out there
Nice job not doing anything, mods. You're really good at it.
It's funny, 4chan is completely retarded about video games, comics, politics, etc.
But I always manage to learn new things about history when I'm here. Did you all get history degrees or something?
>>81215902
>Book is not available
and i came here for the capes.
>>81217234
Still a prick move because he was a teacher.
It is one of the points were you can accuse the Catholic church from actually being evil. Executing Protestants is bad mmm kay.
>>81217467
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>81217467
>all that chocolate milk
... monster...
>>81217467
It was probably expired.
>>81217605
No,this is a monster.
>>81217350
Catholicism has always been sort of an exception to that. For most of its history America has had a big problem with Catholicism.
Part of this is that, no matter how American it may become, the Catholic Church in the US still has to answer to Rome, and to the pope.
>>81217467
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
>>81217467
Milk is shit good riddance
>>81215949
>arbitrary borders
I like these shitty 1980s arguments in the era of multiculturalism
>>81217466
12 years in Catholic schooling and a degree in Religious Studies.
>>81216413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Svh8iiYMMt=1m45s
Penn Jillette explains it better than I can.
>>81214892
Is this the all-time greatest /co/ bait?
>>81215902
>chest-slapper.
Are we just making up random insults now?
>>81217532
In all fairness they executed us right back.
Just look at the bloody mess that was England's various revolutions and civil wars between Anglicans, Catholics and Calvinists.
>>81215902
>strangenotions.com
>/pol/
>>81217704
No. It's too obvious.
>>81215376
>>81215323
>no y-axis
>Sid Meier's Civilization-tier quantification of "scientific advancement"
>Western/Eurocentric view of science
>Ignores the Islamic Golden Age
>Ignores China
>goes from Egpyt-Greece-Rome as though those were the first and only major civilizations in the area
>implying the Dark Ages were a time of scientific regression
>implying Dark Ages is even the correct term
>implying the Renaissance-era didn't use the term to make themselves look cooler
>claims Christianity, and not numerous economic and political factors, caused the "Dark Ages"
>the size of that fucking hole
Among other wrong things about this graph. It's fucking dumb.
>>81216081
>WE WUZ CAESARS AND SHITAlso they are completely correct. Russia is the modern heir of Rome.
>>81215323
how do you even rank scientific advancement in a chart?
>>81217684
Please elaborate.
>>81217350
That is deceiving because it is grouping, and in case of OP image, placing the blame on people who not only had nothing to do with what whatever the inquisition did manage to do, but were also pursued by them, and bonus it also funds a complete misconception.
I am not even Christian but it grinds my gears when I see the media accuse Christianity of being awful, but they also defend Islam for no reason. There is still persecution of actual Christians in the middle east today.
I met a few when I was in Egypt, and it was hard for them, and it was weeks before the arab spring.
>>81215424
Here ya go. It's really quite telling.
>>81217804
You don't; it's an image that exists solely to either troll or give the worst kind of atheists something to jerk off to.
>>81217880
Reminder that an offshoot of the Taliban specifically targeted Christians celebrating Easter yesterday in a suicide bombing in Pakistan that killed almost 70 people.
>>81217954
It doesn't have units, and therefor doesn't actually mean anything.
>>81217954
>1 >10 >100 >1k
fucking shit, had me for a second
>>81217954
>every tick is 10x the tick below it
holy
s h i t
>>81217782
>Implying it isn'tSpain.They did buy the imperial title off one of the last Byzantine Emperors, after all
>>81217880
Yeah. Say what you will about /r/athiesm (I know I'm talking blasphemy here), but at least they don't hesitate to shit on Muslims in addition to Christians.
>>81217954
>>81218033
Logarithmic scales are an actual thing though.
>>81214953
Only correct answer.
Someone post the "reason Swat Kats got cancelled" comic.
>>81218129
And they aren't portrayed that way, they are normally fit onto a straight line.
>>81217954
Got me
>>81215376
You want me to start rattling off the number of Scientific discoveries that were made by Monks, such as Gregor Mendel?
>>81218256
Pretty please?
>>81217700
That was a great post anon, if I could shake your hand I would.
It did answer my doubts.
>>81215801
>aren't Christianity and Catholicism are two different faiths
Christian is the broader term, includes protestant, orthodox, anglicans, whatever. Catholicism is a form of christianity, the roman apostolic way to be exact.
>>81216903
The toenail scene in spongebob is more "adult" that that shit
we was relevent n sheit
oh my god guys seriously
learn how 2 take a joke
>>81215477
What's really funny is that Christian Missionaries invented a flying car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7INsC6Ts3qc
Checkmate Atheists
>>81215703
>>81215628
Also "The Dark Ages" doesn't precisely refer to lack of scientific knowledge/advancement or government, but rather to the fact that, between the Roman Empire and the more stable kingdoms of the Middle Ages, this is the period of history we have the least information about.
Christianity didn't start the dark ages but it definitely did help extend it.
By substituting Greco roman philosophy with Christian centered theology as a replacement continued the dark ages for years more than it should have lasted. It took the Arabs and a relearning of Greek painting and philosophy to bring us out of the dark ages.
So yes, Christianity is partially responsible for keeping technology and science back.
>>81217684
The Sykes–Picot Agreement was pretty much as "arbitrary" as it gets. France and England decided on these vague "spheres of influence" that had convenient straight lines and decided that all these people would be in the countries that Europe decided for them. You had tribes split in two and warring factions now considered part of the same state. It was a recipe for disaster.
>>81215323
>>81215376
>>81215949
To be fair the entire region under the Ottomans had been completed fucked over for a long time.
I think the Turks stopped being a realistic, huge threat to Europe around the 1700s.
>>81216308
It's honestly not that much different from the politics that go on behind the scenes with government funded science today.
Simply a different set of masters with a different dogma they are pursuing.
>>81217782
Did someone call for a schism? Because I think I just heard someone call for a schism.
>>81215673
>mfw that link
>>81215860
And the image of everyone living in mud and dwelling in their own shit is false as well. Hell, there's even evidence of continued use of Rome-era bath houses.
>>81218436
>I think the Turks stopped being a realistic, huge threat to Europe around the 1700s.
>mfw the Battle of Vans
>>81214892
I was glad for this episode.
I think this was the point where Seth finally gave up the last bits of pretense that this show wasn't his own personal soap box.
It finally convinced me to actively avoid watching this show ever again.
>>81217700
>Catholocism and Protestantism are VERY different.
My mom is a Lutheran, my dad is a Catholic. I've been in both churches and while I can say there are different rituals and policies, generally there's not as much of a difference as he's saying here.
>>81215789
Mongolians
don't feel sorry of the muslims though, they were still slavers who spread their religion by the sword
>>81218363
That is somewhat wrong.
True Al Hazat and Al burundi, Arab philosophers of the time did contribute to the philosophy of the middle ages, and western philosophy of the time, Roger Bacon acknowledged Al Hazat Opus Majus.
But still the scientia, and academia of the time was pushed entirely by the church before the bourgeois and global politics were involved.
Also Aristotelian, and Augustinian schools thought were still pulsing in the Middle Ages, and there was not a substitution, there was a lot of influence with in the academic spheres then.
But feel free to correct me.
>>81218256
>Mendel wasn't credited for his work until after his death
Sad.
>>81215789
>Where did they go wrong?
Probably around the time that the Spanish took the Iberian peninsula back from the Arabs and took over Gibraltar. This allowed for the Spanish to monopolize the resources of the New World until the British Empire became the dominant global power several centuries later.
>>81217029
The face is fine it's the fucking cap and glasses that ruins it.
>>81218750
The Spaniards mismanaged their resources terribly due to a terrible combination, they had to import more resources in, and their nobility hindered them in several aspects both economical, and military.
I don't think Hernan Cortez was even acknowledged as an important figure in Spain, contrast to Mexico which he is regarded as an heroic figure for all the good deeds he did.
Napoleon was the final slash, but he also ended the Inquisition for good.
>>81218664
I don't feel bad for anyone back then anon. What religion wasn't spread by nefarious means at the time?
>>81214892
>OP reveals his full fedora level.
>/co/ piles on to let him know that his, in fact, a cunt.
I love you guys.
>>81219207
Kinda shows some work needs to be done on /co/ still. People who believe in fairy tales have no place in this world.
>>81219207
He was baiting, m8. Claiming to like Family Guy is entry level bait.
>>81218664
>tfw no qt mongolian warrior princess
>>81214892
1930s I believe.
>>81219274
Cartoons were for kids until the early 2000s, when Family Guy first aired.
>>81215902
>bullet holes in the /pol/ logo
>>81218060
It's called a logarithmic scale, really common for graphing stuff that grows fast. The image is still retarded of course.
>>81217467
who cares
>>81219234
You're ruining my pretending.
>>81217954
what unit is scientific advancement measured in
>>81217467
DELETE THIS
>>81219547
Euphorics.
>>81219234
Yeah, OP's fairy tales are cause for concern. People like him, who willingly ignore scientific and historical evidence in favor of their own misguided beliefs, should be taught the truth.
>>81217467
>M-MODS!!!
>>81219304
Uhm, not really. Cartoons were made for an adult audience all the way up to the 60s. Then it switched to kids for almost 30 years before adult oriented cartoons made a comeback. Looney Tunes and those old Disney cartoons were never made for children. We only consider them for kids now because they got mixed in with Saturday morning cartoons. A certain subset of these cartoons however remained withdrawn from audiences particularly children and that was the war time toons.
>>81215376
Here, I can do it in three words:
EASTERN ROMAN EMPIRE.
>>81219897
That isn't taught in American schools, he doesn't know about it. Which is funny, because if he did, he'd know Crusades DID cause a downfall of the Roman Empire. Fucking Fourth Crusade. Fucking Venice.
YOU HAD ONE JOB.
GO TO FUCKING EGYPT.
AND YOU SACK CONSTANTIN-FUCKING-OPLE (not yet Istanbul).
YOU BRING SHAME TO THE POPE.
>This thread was posted on /tv/ at the same time
>/tv/, one of the shittiest boards on 4chan, identified it as bait and then jani deleted it
>/co/ mods/janis left it up on /co/ where the bait was endlessly bitten
Yeah, /co/ is such a "great" board, so much smarter than those other boards...
>>81214892
You do know your image is bullshit, right?
http://blogs.nature.com/soapboxscience/2011/05/18/science-owes-much-to-both-christianity-and-the-middle-ages
BTW. Darvin was devote Christian.
>>81220590
>BTW. Darvin was devote Christian.
Not the way you are thinking. He thought Christ was human, and that the bible was full of errors and only existed as a moral authority.
Recaptcha: Luci Lakewood
>>81215549
What joke?
It's just " a group of people that I don't like are dumb" and that not a joke, it's just a stupid statement.
>>81220590
WAS a devout christian. Then he realized parasitic wasps existed and nature was a nightmare that no loving god would tolerate.
>>81214892
I think the real question should be when did a bunch of do-gooders decide that cartoons were strictly meant for children, and certain subjects should be allowed to be introduced in them? Cartoons were always meant to be an intelligent medium for adult, rational minds. And then The Hayse Commission stepped in.........
>>81218529
Who were only discontinued during the renaissance because of syphillis.
>>81214892
>Christianity never existed
>Next scene they're in the Sistine Chapel
>>81215699
Me too senpai
>be part of this thread last night.
>go to bed.
>have a sleep in.
>wake up.
>thread still here.
This is a bit worrying actually.
>>81225614
>you're a rebel and a trendsetter and a genius and special.
You just fucking ruined it. Your post started out legit, but devolved into generalization and petty namecalling. Now you look like a fucking faggot.
>>81215673
That intro will never stop sounding like Cruel Summer by Bananarama
>>81215323
Everyone complains about the dark ages, and I'm over here complaining the the burning of the Library of Alexandria actually caused a hit to the Gene pool along with burning of many literal metric shit tons of information.
>>81214892
>people still believe the middle ages were a period where everything was shit and there was no scientific advancement for a 1000 fucking years
>people still don't know that during much of the middle ages, Christian monastic and cathedral schools were the main venue for education as ell as philosophic and scientific advancement
>people are still ignorant to the fact that the perceived "collapse" or European development wasn't because of Christianity, but because of the loss of the resources and texts of the Greeks and Romans, as well as the widespread de-urbanisation
>people still don't realise that the "religious repressed" Europeans still ended up more advanced than any country where Christianity never gained a foothold
Even if it's obvious bait, I just want this meme to die.
>>81214981
>Family guy
>for adults
>>81226334
>Christians destroy libraries calling their books Heresy
>Not their fault we lost all the old books
>singlehandedly save countless examples of classical literature and historical records
>everyone later blames you for a "dark age" that didn't actually exist
sucks being a monk
>>81226597
They did try to make up for what was lost by transcribing old works that otherwise would not have survived.
>>81222321
You don't like it? Go on the internet and complain.
>>81215243
Seriously. I can't even guess how many times I've had to explain that the 'Dark Ages' were only named as such due to the lack of historical documentation compared to other eras.
>>81217713
Yes, you ass happy slap faggot.
>>81221635
Instead it was made by a wicked cool God.
>>81214892
When The Simpsons became one of the greatest satires on television1994
>>81215323
The funny part is that, throughout most of its history, the Catholic Church was responsible for the preservation and promotion of knowledge and education, and in fact may be the only reason that certain knowledge has survived at all. Everybody else was too busy killing each other.
![533px--Eveready_Harton_in_Buried_Treasure.ogv[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/H66cYmQ.jpg "533px--Eveready_Harton_in_Buried_Treasure.ogv[1].jpg")
>>81214892
I don't know about you, but I've narrowed it down to roughly 1929.
>>81216817
I know, RIGHT? You'd never see anything like this in an intelligent patrician show like South Pa- oh, wait. South Park's the same as Family Guy.
>>81215881
I'm going with "don't care". I know perfectly well. It's just easier to use a blanket term unless you need to specify one denomination in particular.
>This thread
Let's talk about something else
How would a cartoon about Knights work? I'd imagine it'd be in the same style as Avatar except with an ever-changing roster of characters akin to A:EMH
Like, maybe magic exists in this world but its so rare and overall forgotten that the few individuals that have a connection to it are treated like Gods while the rest of the world has to shimmy along with their swords and knight armor
>>81215976
Honestly, if it were any other show, nobody would care, but since it's a show where the creator is well known for pushing his beliefs and using bad arguments to do so, a joke that is literally both really gets old
>>81217467
>chocolate milk
Good. Only morons drink liquid diarrhea
>>81217700
christfag here, still fantastic video
>>81215549
>>81215637
Same here
>>81216646
>not knowing that Looney Tunes and The Flintstones were made for adults
pssh, c'mon kid
You know, i used to tout this shit all the time too.
But I think all 1000 more years of advancement under out belt would mean is 1000 more years deeper into the good ol' global warming hole we've dug for ourselves.
Just means all of our greenhouse-gas emitting shit would have been invented 1000 years earlier and god only fucking knows what'll end up happening with that.
For all we know, we're living in the best times humanity will ever experience.
It's quite likely it's all downhill from here unless we get some brilliant minds to invent a way to suck Carbon Dioxide and Methane out of the air faster than we put it back in.
Because lets be fucking serious.
I'm not going to stop driving and farting, and neither is anyone else.
Perhaps inventing ways of regulating your home-planet's temperature in time before the effects of your previous inventions wipes you out IS the great filter the Fermi Paradox speaks of.
And I'm not so sure we're going to jump this hurdle.
>>81233673
I like the way you think sir.
>>81226843
I've wanked to that
Especially when the guy bangs the donkey
>>81233673
>It's quite likely it's all downhill from here unless we get some brilliant minds to invent a way to suck Carbon Dioxide and Methane out of the air faster than we put it back in.
We just need to all die and let vegetation reclaim our cities.
>People use religion to make themselves feel superior compared to others
>Some people renounce religion for this reason
>These people use their lack of religion to make themselves feel superior compared to others
>>81226860
>If I keep repeating this, maybe someone will believe it
>>81217466
Here's the secret to 4chan.
/pol/ doesn't know jack about politics.
/co/ doesn't know dick about comics and cartoons.
/v/ doesn't know shit about video games.
/ck/ eats Taco Bells.
/fit/ is fat.
/tv/ doesn't know squat about television.
/tg/ is filled with That Guys.
/mu/ just discovered this hot new band called the Flobots, guys.
And /his/ definitely doesn't understand history.
But god damnit, all of the boards know all of the topics that DON'T relate to their header just fucking fine.
>>81236079
Its a vicious circle of smug
>>81234749
Like Detroit!
>>81215549
Reminded me.
>>81215813
>the Holy Roman Empire
>holy
>roman
>empire
>>81236983
A smircle.
>>81219547
>>81219651
There's one rather reliable measure of the scientific advancement.It's the level of pollution.
>>81219547
Picarats, you retard!
Unrealted to the thread, but... Does /his/ have/allow alternate history threads?
>>81226647
Only hundreds of years later. Christians didn't start the dark ages but they definitely continued it.
>>81215376
If Christianity is the cause of social regression, then why wasn't their a distinct social and scientific advantage in the areas with the world without Christianity for all those years like China, India, and the Americas?
Why was the Christian Sector of the world able to overtake and even dominate all the other sectors despite being blighted by Christian dogma?
>>81237759
You mean Sid Meier: Civilization threads?
You can have those on /v/
>>81240833
The success of European Christians has nothing to do with Christianity and everything to do with the highly fertile lands of Europe itself.
All of these religions basically came from the same shitty desert, and when the land there slowly but surely became less and less healthy, so too did the people regress and the way they practice religion.
>>81225854
>the burning of the Library of Alexandria
It got burned down more than once.
>>81236079
>said religious people then point at those pretentious anti-theists to further justify their own superiority complex
>>81215789
When the muslims ran out of Persian shit to steal
![comic299[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/hbsayEt.png "comic299[1].png")
>>81216435
Would you not be a bit astounded is you just stabbed the fuck out of a guy with a spear and he just starts pulling you closer despite having a fucking spear going straight through his chest and vital bits? It's pretty much this pic.
