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>Marvel brand will be riding high after the success of Civil War
>Cumberbatch brings his own established fanbase
>No Hunger games of James Bond releases this year; only real competition in November is the new Harry Potter movie but Strange comes out first and gets a two week head start
Unless Marvel Studios really screws the pooch, this movie is going to make a ton of money.
>>81161206
>Unless Marvel Studios really screws the pooch
with how good they've been doing lately I have pretty high hopes for all their upcoming movies
>>81161251
even Civil War which I would have never expected to be portrayed well AT ALL EVER
Even their worst movies are watchable, but I'm really fucking nervous about Doctor Strange.
>>81161288
I find it hard to believe that Strange will be bad
God I really hope Thor dies after Ragnarok. I've never been happy with MCU Thor.
I think I wanted more Dolph Lundgren than pretty boy tho
>>81161206
>this movie is going to make a ton of money.
And fuck quality.
>>81161358
Thor has always been a pretty boy though. Hemsworth is the perfect Thor, he's just not written very well.
>>81161206
Marvel can't fail
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCYat5xM12w
I don't care how much money it makes, I just want it to be accurate to the character. Doc Strange was the one character my dad really got into and I just want it to be good for him.
>>81161322
I feel like this cast was really low key stacked with A+ talent.
Have we heard anything about who Rachel McAdams will be playing? I assume Clea, but who knows what they'll pull out.
>>81161341
>I like this thing
>FUCK YUO SHILL!!!!!
>>81161382
the argument worked for BvS
And it's not even Disney's biggest release for November.
>>81161410
>I just want it to be accurate to the character
Man, do I have bad news for you...
>>81161414
>I like this turd, stop laughing at my coprophilia!
>Guardians of the Galaxy was a hit and is getting a sequel
>/co/ thought it would flop because of muh c-tier superheroes
>Marvel has been on a roll when it comes to movies
at worst this movie will be good but people wont understand some of the stuff
>>81161431
inb4 Character of Color™ turns in to an animal for over half the movie
>>81161410
Your dad's probably going to be a lot less demanding about this than you.
>>81161437
Do you have any actual news, or are you just shitposting?
>>81161445
Nah. It will make good money, but in two years no one will remember Scientist Supreme.
>>81161388
Nah, Hemsworth is too soft and hides it with his psuedo-beard, I always wanteda Kirby-esque Thor with more hard, chiselled features.
I guess what I'm saying is I prefer Orion.Christ I can't wait to see Snyder fuck up that casting
>>81161500
dank meme
>>81161437
How inaccurate could it be? We already know they're doing the origin pretty faithfully. Female Ancient One and Black Baron Mordo are the only real changes.
>>81161530
They made a film starring a talking raccoon before they made a film starring a female hero
>>81161358
You know if Thor dies Jane is picking that hammer up.
If Dr. Strange is succesful, will we get MCU Mephisto and other demonic entities?
>>81161530
Suicide Squad has not!Human Torch, an actual magical witch, and a crocodile man. Oh, and Boomerang.
How is that grimdark and lore shitting?
>>81161341
Thought Police pls, just let me go this one time
>>81161496
>Strange's sancta sanctorum will be a poshy apartment
>no magic, only science
>>81161523
Remember when you people loved Whedon?
>>81161561
>Disney loves animals better than women
Hmmm, that's why /co/ loves Disney so much.
>>81161431
Then in December, they've got Rogue One. I'm really curious how this is going to do, the first major Star Wars movie outside of the main series.
>>81161591
Because those characters are on a grimdark team of villains doing tacticool grimdark missions?
>>81161566
Natalie Portman doesn't want to come back
>>81161561
>hey a lot of people seem to want a movie with Black widow as the main character?
>really?
>yeah they do, she seems to have a very big fan following to, and she and hawkeye are the only avengers without their own movies, maybe we should do it? both of them can be in the movie, just some quick cash before we release the next avengers movie.
>nah man, lets just take this unknown d-tier superhero no one has ever heard about instead
>but sir!
why the fuck do they keep denying us a black widow movie i can get it that they didnt have it a few years back but its not even confirmed, yet we get confirms for unknown superheroes who havent even featured in the other movies yet.
>>81161610
I'm interested in how hard they're gonna promote it. Force Awakens had toys and restaurant and laptop deals and headphones and Finn hanging over times square and was everywhere. How deep are they gonna go for a non numbered Star Wars movie?
>>81161654
That's what we have the Hulk for
>>81161654
As it should be. I much rather sif pick up the hammer but we know that's not gonna happen
>>81161654
And thank God for that.
should've posted this earlier in the thread
Can you guys stop the company war/shitposting please?
Just for a little bit.
>>81161678
No one but tumblr wants a Widow movie you faggot b
>>81161322
We still don't know what villain Mads is portraying, right?
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>new Harry Potter movie
damn i'm out of the loop
>>81161817
Most people generally assume the Dorm man himself but there have been no confirmations
>>81161561
WE GET IT ! WE GET IT ALREADY!
TALKING RACCOON BEFORE FEMALE MOVIE.
STOP BRINGING IT UP, REDDIT
>>81161868
>yfw he's actually Doom.
>>81161689
To be fair, their left the VII number our of marketing. It's not even in the logo, so I don't think an unnumbered EU movie will be that different to market.
>>81161932
It's not even like it's that weird either. We have had very successful movies with genderless robot protags and talking animals before.
I'm actually pretty sure we have had more successful talking animal movies than movies with female protags.
>>81161530
Damn. Either a janitor is seriously butthurt about bvs bombing or they're deleting random posts now.
>>81161678
Black Widow movie would be boring as piss.
>>81161561
>They made a film starring a talking raccoon
as part of a team with a green woman and a tree with a blue bald woman as one of the main villains.
marvel is diverse as fuck.
>>81161654
Neither did Terrance Howard.
>>81162011
>sci-fi spy movies are boring as piss
>>81161678
Because Widow can't carry a movie alone. She would be a great character for Netflix show but Scarjo is too big name to be on a show.
>>81162001
That was my post. I mean that's a genuine thing that upsets me, but I can see where they might've thought I was trying to shitpost my way into a company war
>>81162138
>>81162001
That post should not have been deleted.
>>81162001
He's probably trying to discourage threads derailings due to shitposters, but doing a shit job because this nigga >>81161341
>>81161382
>>81161437
>>81161601
is still here.
>>81161322
I'm still mad about Tilda Swinton as The Ancient One.
What is the point of whitewashing him? Marvel only has like 3 Asian characters.
They could've got Jackie Chan, Ken Watanabe, or James Hong, and instead they chose a blonde white woman.
And Wong isn't gonna be in the movie either.
>>81162204
Because Tilda Swinton looks like an alien.
If she and Sam Cassell had a baby it would be ET
>>81161517
>implying DC would ever make a new gods movie
>implying Goyer doesn't think Orion is for faggots
>implying Darkseid hasn't already won
>>81162031
No.
http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/terrence-howard-fired-iron-man-2-robert-downey-jr/
>>81162204
Wong is in the movie.
He is played by Benedict Wong.
>>81162011
yeah and they said Guardians of the Galaxy would flop and suck yet here we are.
dont you believe in Marvel?
they havent fucked up the casting, the characters or the plot (at least no major fuck-ups) in the end it would be about taste in genre.
>>81162288
There is nobody who actually wants a Black Widow movie outside of tumblr girls and Hideo Kojima
Now if Kojima was directing, that might be interesting, but other than that nobody gives a shit
>>81161950
There are no copy rights.
There is no box office.
There is only DOOM.
>>81162334
I would give both nuts to have Kojima direct a BW movie.
>>81161206
and DC shot their foot and went blind deaf and retarded. Marvel is going to be THE comic book movie guys.
>>81161561
>>81161678
>>81161601
Most of the Marvel's big female characters are X-Men, hence why we got a movie with a "talking raccoon" before a solo female movie. I guarantee you if Marvel had the rights we would've been had a Storm movie.
We're not getting a Black Widow because she's boring as shit, but Carol actually may be worse.
I'd be hype as hell for She-Hulk if it were done right, but I think they're avoiding her because she's an offshoot of a preexisting male character.
>>81162459
>We're not getting a Black Widow because she's boring as shit, but Carol actually may be worse.
Carol has a chance. BW is boring because we already know how she's like but there is a chance, a single chance, that they could do Capt. Marvel better than anything her comics have been for the past 5 years
>>81161950
>>81162338
I would piss myself in excitement
>>81162251
>bring this up 5 years after the fact
Im sorry but if this broke at IM2s launch that makes sense but 5 years later when his career is dying and the Marvel movies are soaring?
Yeah no, the fucker flips his shit to easy for me to think this is anywhere close to true.
He likely either bailed or just didn't commit
Regardless Im enjoying Don Cheadle as Rhodes a lot more, he seem far more military oriented and is a much better contrast to Jr's playboy persona
>>81162044
>>81162288
I love Marvel and I think their movies are good to great, just have no interest in a 2 hour movie with Black Widow. Spy movies can work, but Black Widow isn't interesting enough to carry her own film. Would rather give that space to someone like Jessica Drew or MCU Peggy instead.
>>81162281
>>81162204
>Wong is played by Wong
>Wong is played by a guy who shares the same name with Benedict Cumberbatch
wew
>>81162281
This is hype level casting. Also just realized there will be two Benedicts in this movie. Wild.
>>81162288
>they havent fucked up the casting, the characters or the plot (at least no major fuck-ups) in the end it would be about taste in genre.
Which is why they ditched their Black Widow movie. It wouldn't have worked because she works best as a supporting character.
>>81162601
She's not interesting because she's constantly a side character. If you give her a full movie to work with, she becomes more interesting. At that point, it just comes down to whatever plot they can cook up about shady businesses and governments stealing shit.
>>81162640
Marvel's trying to corner the market on Benedicts the same way they cornered the market on handsome actors named Chris.
>>81162572
Dude this was widely reported at the time. I distinctly remember reading that Howard's agent refused the contract for the sequel because they cut his pay, when in reality due to various oddities he was paid more than RDJ for the first one
>>81162692
Are there any more Chris' they can take?
>>81162614
Don't forget B.D. Wong is playing Dr. Hugo Strange on Gotham. B.D. Wong plays Dr. Strange, Doctor Strange is Benedict Cumberbatch, Benedict Wong plays Wong.
>>81162614
>two Benedict!!??
>two Wongs!!???
>>81162775
Mein got. The confusion.
>>81162459
She-Hulk netflix show please. Courtroom drama between her and DD.
>>81162508
They should've went with Monica.
>>81162775
>>81162778
>Feige: I NEED PICTURES! PICTURES OF CHRISES, BENEDICTS AND WONGS!
>>81162459
Wasp is going to be the big female lead, as it should be. Her and Captain Marvel will be the females. Fuck Black Widow, i can see Marvel phasing her out
>>81162915
>Wasp is going to be the big female lead
It's a pity it won't be Janet, but oh well
>>81162849
She-Hulk CG would be too expensive for Netflix.
And I feel like Marvel would fuck it up by not casting a black actress.
>>81162855
Monica has no lore, villains or supporting characters.
Carol Danvers has her connection to Mar-Vell and the Kree, relationships with several heroes and several villains.
There's a reason Monica's tenure as Captain Marvel didn't last.
>>81162999
>implying it won't be Cutemala
>>81162978
She-Hulk is basically just a green muscular lady, not a monster like Regular-Hulk. They can do a lot with makeup and a box to stand on.
>>81163060
We'll probably get Kamala eventually, but that's years down the line
>>81161601
please no one take this bait
>>81161206
I find it interesting that the Eye of Agamotto has the Seal of the Vishanti on it.
>>81162775
God dammit Morrison stop masturbating on sigils.
>>81162944
> yfw everybody thinks Antman & The Wasp is scott & hope but it's core is about hank & janet
> yfw janet is brought into present by the time gem/gauntlet shenanigans
> yfw janet is younger than hank due to time travel
> yfw feige turns hank & janet into the MCU's Reed & Susan
ANTS
>>81161206
Are we gonna ignore that the dude has a fucking Infinity Gem in his costume?
I'm betting his magic comes from there
>>81163237
>I'm betting his magic comes from there
If he has a gem, it might give him a boost, but he clearly need to learn how to use magic on his own before using the Eye.
>>81163181
I imagine that the story will be about rescuing Jan from the Microverse, and that she's been fine all these years, she's just been floating through oblivion.
I do like the idea of old Hank and Jan being the MCU science family.
>>81163308
The villain could be Whirlwind
>>81162204
Swinton is panracial
>>81163181
They aint doing anything with Hank anymore
Douglas won't last the year
>>81162775
Benedict is Dr. Strange who is served by Wong who is both Benedict and Wong and also Dr. Strange
>>81163110
Makes sense. Agamotto is one of the Vishanti. Also, the seal looks like a little latch or gate; in the comics the amulet opens up and the eye floats out and attaches to Strange's forehead to give him second sight. Perhaps that's what the Seal does; opens up allowing the Eye to float out.
Who's playing Umar?
>>81163874
Hasn't been cast. Neither has Dormammu.
By all accounts the plot is mainly going to focus on Earth-based sorcerers. Other dimensions will be a key plot element, and Feige said both that we'll get a glimpse of the Dark Dimension and of "scary things" from other dimensions, but that's all.
I hear they are recruiting extras from /tv/ to play the Mindless Ones
>>81163976
HEY-OOOOOOOOOOH
>>81163181
I would be OK with all of this, the Antfamily is the MCU's F4.
>>81163757
That was proven to be false already, Douglas is fine
http://www.ibtimes.com/michael-douglas-near-death-hoax-slammed-rep-clean-tongue-cancer-2340633
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/catherine-zeta-jones-sizzles-swimsuit-7631561
ANTS beat cancer.
>>81163913
>we'll get a glimpse of the Dark Dimension and of "scary things" from other dimensions, but that's all.
Boooo but I guess they need to save something for Doc Strange 2.
>>81161410
>Have we heard anything about who Rachel McAdams will be playing?
From what I've heard she's Strange's professional colleague and a love interest. The theory right now seems it's Linda Carter, the original Night Nurse, with whom Strange had a romance in the popular "The Oath" story, from which we know there are other elements in the movie, like Nicodemus West. The fact that she'll probably be working with him in the hospital before the accident seems like her story will also take some elements from Dr. Gina Atwater from the animated movie
>>81161610
>>81161689
All I'm wondering is what kinda movie will they completely rip off for that one.
>>81161288
Same here. I have high hopes but i dont want another thor 1. And Dr. Strange is essentially my all time fav superhero of all time alongside She-Hulk. I'm at least glad the costume looks fucking amazing. And cumberstilts has even talked about getting the hand shit down...which makes me so fucking happy.
Like the idea of brindlebuss humperdink in movie with more than a hundo mill in budget doing the fucking mystical bullhorns while saying 'BY THE HOARY GHOSTS OF HOGGOTH' and 'BOUND IN THE CRIMSON BANDS OF CYTTORAK' completely straight...just selling it. It makes me wanna fucking tear up i want it to work so badly.
I just want astral form cruising through psychadelic trippy dippy worlds, strange mystical creatures, wizards fighting wizards, Strange just flying around or commanding his cape like its a sentient being with his mind (IF WE GET STRANGE BOUND BUT USING HIS CAPE TO TAKE OUT THE PEOPLE WHO TIED HIM UP BY THROWING THEM AROUND ILL SHIT)
I have faith in the MCU because even at their worst (iron man 2 and thor 1) i find myself entertained...i'm easy to please. So man do i hope this works out.
>>81164213
I get the feeling they're gonna tease a lot of stuff. The plot, according to Feige, is that Mads Mikkelsen's character is a sorcerer who wants there to be more traffic between the dimensions, and splits off from The Ancient One who is more cautious due the aforementioned "scary things." Mikkeslen wants to effectively tear down the barriers between realities and let everyone mingle.
If that's the central conflict and he's the villain then they need to establish the stakes. That means giving us some idea of what those "scary things" are and what they're capable of.
I'd say we have a very good chance of seeing glimpses of Dormammu, Shuma-Gorath, the Mindless Ones, and maybe even Mephisto.
>>81164286
Man, cool tricks with the Cloak of Levitation is at the top of my wish list for this movie.
Also, Feige has said they're going to keep in Strange' "tongue twisty" spells so I'd say we have a decent shot at hearing at least BY THE HOARY HOSTS OF HOGGOTH
>>81162204
I actually don't mind the Ancient One, since Tilda can play anyone and not lift an eyebrow.
>>81162024
It is true, the green woman is black, the christmass colored man is....brown? oh and the tree is also brown....kind of...i think.
holy shit i just realized the majority of GotG are what sjws normally want but nobody gave a shit. It was just a funny cool movie.
>>81161437
>>I like this turd, stop laughing at my coprophilia!
To be fair some people genuinely like the taste of shit it's just a question of individual taste
>>81162204
I'll be honest. Part of me wants asian ancient one....but the other part of me (my dick) wants tilda swinton doing trippy mystical shit because i have a strange strange thing about that woman.
Shes got a haunting strangeness to her that makes me think 'its like david bowie but with a vagina and i can get behind that'.
>>81161322
BvS had a good cast too (if you ignore Gadot).
>>81164430
>GotG are what sjws normally want but nobody gave a shit. It was just a funny cool movie.
the scifi setting gave actual chance for race to be irrelevant
sjws dont like that, they want race to matter
>>81161868
Which is stupid as Feige described his character as "Mads’ character is a sorcerer who breaks off into his own sect, [He] believes that the Ancient One is just protecting her own power base and that the world may be better off if we were to allow some of these other things through." which doesn't fit with Dormammu at all. And before that interview Dormammu was the #1 speculation, but then executive producer Stephen Broussard said “I’ve seen lots of names thrown around. No one has quite picked the name that we’ve chosen for him. It would be fun to conceal that, if we can." So it's really not going to be Dormammu. Combine that with the fact that Feige said Strange can "screw around with time’ — which is part of our story.", and my bet is on Kaluu, who's a rival sorceror of the ancient one who wasn't mentioned much before and was first introduced in a time travel story.
>>81164430
>but nobody gave a shit
Pretty sure they were mad that they were all covered up or CG'd. It "didn't count" to them.
>>81164494
>'its like david bowie but with a vagina
She should definitely do a Bowie biopic
>>81161794
>>81162246
>New gods movie
>decent budget
>rotoscope animated film like heavy metal
>designed to resemble jack kirby cosmic shit
>directed by Alex Garland (guy who did ex machina)
>Ron Perlman as darkseid
>Ryan gosling as orion
It could never be, and i dont know if anyone other than me would even want it.
>>81164520
we need gamora dealing with racism from greenish blue people against just plain green people. And forget that purple privilege.
>>81164723
>Ron Perlman
Just go with Ironside.
>>81164854
If it was voice alone sure. but with rotoscoping the acting matters and ron perlman cuts an amazing visual figure you could animate over. Plus ive never been big on doing a theatrical new version of something and just using the version were nostalgic about from when we were kids.
>>81164773
If the Captain Marvel movie takes place on Hala, we might see some sweet sweet alien racism against those pleb pink-skins.
Don't get me started on if they take the eugenics route in Inhumans.
Radicals won't know what to do with themselves.
>>81161206
Seriously?
>>>/tv/67377073
>>>/tv/67377795
>>>/tv/67378362
>>81164723
I would love that man. But that's the furthest thing from reality I've ever seen posted on /co/.
>>81161206
The hwell you on about
>guaranteed success says who?
>this is a meme, tumblr = the planet
>blatant lie
>>81164912
>>81162754
Chris Rock
Chris Pine (Moon Knight)
Chris Tucker
Chris Colfer
Chris O'Donnel
Take your pick for the marvel catalog of those of differing races just by googling " Top (Race/Gender designation) Marvel characters" and take your pick.
Like so:
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/blackpan1her/lists/top-black-marvel-superheroes/43966/
>>81164316
I've heard people speculate that Mads is Kaluu
>>81165481
I'm hoping For Doctor Droom.
>>81161431
Out of all the minority cash grabs, Pacific Islanders are the ones I can live with
>>81165676
I have to ask. Is there a way they can make a movie not about white people that isn't a minority cash grab or sjw pandering or something? Or is every instance of a movie not just being white people automatically only existing to get money off sjw pandering?
>>81165650
That's impossible
>>81165752
You're asking a community that thinks that Finn being black in TFA in a sea of a dozen white MCs is SJW pandering, I don't know what you expect the answer to be.
>>81165752
1. The movie has to be produced or directed by a person who has never made another movie that had a white protagonist or else it would be them "changing" their protags to a minority race
2. It can't have any other white people in the movie playing a supporting character, they have to be part of the main cast.
3. If the protag is non-whtie, the antag can't be white
4. There can't be any jokes regarding white people
5. The conflict can't include specifically white people
6. Finally, the minority protag has to be flawed in some way that they can't be construed as a mary sue
>>81166450
so just this then?
....eh
......at least its something
Harry Potter is a play in November, not a movie OP
>>81166631
It think he means Fantastic Beasts
>>81161431
is that what the voice actress looks like? Should I be fapping to her or her character? holy shit
>>81166672
Oh is that HP related? Had no idea.
>>81165902
No it isn't.
>>81166672
Just watched the trailer for this. What the fuck? I haven't followed Harry Potter in about a decade but as a kid I read a book called Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. It was just an in-universe encyclopedia of different magical creatures in the Harry Potter universe with brief descriptions of their appearance and powers.
And this movie is taking place in New York? I never even heard New York mentioned once in Harry Potter. Is any of this based on shit Rowling actually wrote?
>>81167631
She wrote the screenplay I'm pretty sure.
And she's finally revealing the American wizarding schools and their history.
>>81167732
>american wizarding schools
I dislike this
America is supposed to be this sort of new world and magic is left in the old world like Japan and Europe. Unless the American wizarding schools are native american.
>>81167812
They mention an american wizarding school in the books as well. maybe more than once but i know (ugh i hate that i know this without looking it up) that during the quidditch world cup they go to in book 4 there are fan there from the salem institute or some shit.
>>81167812
I think it's more like Salem witch trial witches.
>>81167812
The American school was founded centuries after all the other ones by European immigrants, it's the newest one. Although Rowling says that Native American magic played a role in its founding though.
>>81168039
>Rowling says that Native American magic played a role in its founding though.
yeahthey provided all the land
>>81168039
Those wizards sure fucked the world up given that North America is fused with the North Pole.
>>81167812
I believe one of them does have their roots in Native American magic, Ilvermorny or something like that.
Then the Salem Witches is some all-girls school similar to the Beauxbatons.
I can buy a bunch of limey wizards immigrating in the 18th century.
>>81168190
>Then the Salem Witches is some all-girls school similar to the Beauxbatons.
Beauxbatons isn't all-girls and Durmstrang isn't all-boys, the movies lied to you.
>>81163976
>>81168266
not him but I like the movie version better anyways
>>81168170
>tfw continental drift never happened in the Potterverse
>>81161576
Mephisto is a shitty faggot.
>>81168266
I know Durmstrang wasn't, but Fleur's school wasn't all bitches?
You're blowing my mind.
>>81168329
Marduk Kurios pls
>>81161610
God forbid any aliens besides Chewy do anything in these space movies.
>>81168365
Yeh the book mentions a couple of boys from there.
I remember at the dance when the patel twins are tired of potter and rons mopey asses they go and dance with some baeuxbaton boys.
fuck okay stop talking about harry potter so i can stop remembering i know all this useless shit.
>>81167631
I think its gonna disappoint at the box office. Not fully bomb necessarily, but I don't think audiences are gonna give a shit about that universe without Harry Potter and the gang.
Plus, its not exactly based off of a book that people can get excited about
>>81168039
I really have to wonder how those students are distributed and how populated they are if Europe gets 3 school and everybody else gets 4.
>>81163110
The Seal of the Vishanti is basically Dr. Strange's logo, so it figures that they'd want it to be on his costume somewhere.
>>81168548
Rowling says that there's other big schools she'll reveal in time, as well as some smaller schools all around the world
>>81168603
wait, so she's just going to spend the rest of her life expanding the Harry Potter universe now?
>>81166889
It literally is.
>>81168548
I think squibs are more common than is led on, also Hogwarts is supposed to be one of the biggest schools and it has like 500 kids max so magic is dead desu.
>>81168704
She tried making an adult novel and it bombed hard. She's completely shit at writing, might as well stick with the shit that actually stuck.
>>81168704
It took her from living out of her car to living in a mansion. I'd be milking it too.
Also GRRM hasn't even finished writing his universe and he's had just as much time.
>>81168867
she could just never work again from all the Harry Potter money though, right?
>>81168704
Nobody gave a shit about her non-HP work, so yeah.
She's doing it wrong though, if she wants to stick with HP she should do it big with a proper 8th book. Instead she's doing little things like plays written by other people and trickling out tidbits of info about the universe
>>81161566
>>81161654
T-they wouldn't?
>>81168913
She's literally a billionaire so yeah.
>>81168913
Yes but most people aren't NEETs and want to work
>>81168962
Why wouldn't she do that? All I want out of life is to not have to work anymore
>>81168981
Even then, she doesn't need to do anything profitable.She could keep churning out books that no one reads if she wants. No reason for her to need to go back to Harry Potter.
>>81161206
I think this does Ant Man money, which is good but if it's anything like last year with there being a star wars in december which depressed the november box office by quite a bit
also the new harry potter movies fanbase overlaps with the marvel movies so it probably needs to open huge
>>81161610
Probably going to be complete shit like TFA, but everyone's going to love it because Star Wars.
>>81169022
Well I don't want to psychoanalyze her too much but maybe that would feel like too much of a step down after such unprecedented success. Its not all about money.
Of course, there's always more money to be made. Some people think that once you reach a certain level of wealth you'd have to be satisfied, but there really is no limit to the things you can buy.
Have 10 houses? Why not get an 11th? Why not buy a second yacht? It never ends
>>81169022
She did a few other books that were successful, difference now is that WB showed up desperate for another milkcow franchise so they offered her something new which is being a script writer and producer.
>>81168867
Her novel bombing had little to do with the quality of her writing. The problem is that if you start out writing genre, that's it. No one in the industry interested in "high" literary art is going to pay attention to you (admittedly, there's some crossover with mystery due to Alice Munro). Add to this the fact that your fans just want genre and any writer looking to break the mold is probably fucked.
>>81169133
>Have 10 houses? Why not get an 11th? Why not buy a second yacht? It never ends
the thought of having to maintain 2 houses and a yacht sounds like anightmare
>>81169243
How were the reviews on the book before it came out that she was the ghostwriter?
>>81167631
It'll probably be a school established by crowley, or some crowley-esque figure
>>81161322
So what are the vegas odds that Strange will be all about bullshit 'alien technology'?
>>81164494
Fucking this.
>>81169345
pay someone else to do that, and also to have nightmares for you
Rowling's got that whole crime series running under the pseudonym. The Harry Potter stuff is probably cause she doesn't want other people messing with it
>>81168784
Google it mang.
>>81169693
More about how quantum physics is magic unfortunately, but maybe they've changed their mind.
>>81169103
>complete shit like TFA
Come on, anon. TFA was a bit underwhelming, but you can't call it "complete shit" in the year that Pixels came out.
>>81169986
Nobody should doubt you, it's inevitable
>>81170781
/poltv/ hates it because it features a black dude and a young woman in starring roles
this much should be obvious
>>81161794
Wish you wouldn't.
It's usually just supported by assholes that want all magic to be science and math and not actually magic.
>>81170735
>it's bad if they make magic accurate to the comics
>>81170934
That's wrong, please stop shoveling your secondhand knowledge as fact
>>81170934
>I read some posts in a thread so I understand how magic works in Marvel
Holy fuck leave and go actually read Strange you faggot.
So many anti-magic assholes these days.
>>81162751
I remember reading that shit, a bad move on his part. That agent is pure shit.
>Not less millions instead of ZERO millions
>With the guarantee of even more in the future
Stupidity, plain and simple
>>81170992
>I haven't brought up any counter examples but I'm right
>>81161410
>>81161437
>MCU takes place in a universe other than 616
>Marvel has been very vocal about subverting expectations in order to tell new stories
>No capefilm character has ever been exactly like their comic counterpart
>people still booty blasted whenever characters aren't 1:1 adaptations of 616 versions
wew lads
>>81171677
That anon is right, dude. Sure, the Englehart comics were a little more mystical, but for almost the entirety of Dr. Strange's history magic has been treated as this weird energy force that's only difference from other energies is that it's less understood. Roy Thomas grouped it with stuff like electromagnetic radiation and said it was all being generated by stars. The Vishanti, Dormammu, Cytorrak, they're almost all just aliens from other dimensions who have mastered this sort of power and loan it out to their servants. The Principalities aren't like the Nordic or Olympian gods in Marvel, who were shaped by belief. Rather, they're independent beings, members of other races from other realities that have different laws of physics.
Shit, this is a recurring problem for Strange, because traditionally he's gotten the bulk of his magic from either these beings or from latent magical energy in his environment, but when the Principalities cut him off or he drains the local magic he has to find new sources. Gillis and Thomas both did runs that almost entirely revolved around that.
>>81170992
Please explain how Dr Strange or Dr Doom does not approach magic scientifically? Or how Reed/Stark/Pym come up with scientific counter measures to magic all the time
>>81172027
Shit, Mechamage built a technological suit of armor that runs on magic. Yandroth built a computer/robot that incorporated magic in its design. Doom build magitech devices all the goddamn time. Hell, Busiek's explanation for Scarlet Witch's powers (still the best one) is that her mutation just lets her tap into magical energies that normal sorcerers would have to spend years learning to access.
Genetics and science can both harness magic in the MU. It's just a weird form of energy, no different than the Power Cosmic, or the Nova force, or the Darkforce, or the Odinforce.
>>81172027
Anon, everything in Marvel (including Peter's spider bite long before The Other was even an idea) is governed by magic and fate beyond the ken of science.
>>81172139
>>81172144
The problem is that you have assholes that don't like fantasy or magic and prefer sci-fi that want to turn all fantasy or magic into sci-fi to amuse themselves and shit on people that enjoy said fantasy/magic. These threads bring people like this that don't want magic to exist in the comics and unfortunately we get writers like that too that can't cope with having both in the world.
Saying Marvel is sci-fi doesn't make it more realistic, guys.
>still no examples that state that magic and science is not compatible despite the several panels in this thread and stuff like Tony building a machine to fight the Phoenix force and the beyonders being able to kill TLT
>>81172377
>The problem is that you have assholes that don't like fantasy or magic and prefer sci-f
Dude, I love magic. My favorite books are LotR and American Gods. It took me years to get into the Dr. Strange comics because I had a kneejerk reaction to the way it presented magic. I wanted it to be all mysterious and symbolic, like it was in the other stories about magic that I liked.
But magic is not a universal concept. The ancient Greeks and the ancient Egyptians had different views on how it worked, and then views of Daoist sages in China and medieval alchemists in Europe were just as different. Same's true in fiction, magic can be different things. It doesn't have one version, graven in stone, that they all have to abide by.
Like I said, it took forever for me to get into Dr. Strange, but now I love it. I don't want it to be realistic, I love that it's weird and outlandish. I like that his magic is different, that its got its own unique system that's not the same as the other settings I like. There's room for diversity here, that's all I'm saying.
>>81161950
Holy shit he would be a perfect Doom.
So is alchemy magic or science...
>>81172377
Fuck no. I love fantasy and magic just as much as sci fi. Shannara were the novelsbi was reading since grade 4, my favorite books are Kushiel's trilogy. Star trek and babylon 5 are two of my fav shows. Shadowrun is one of the best roleplaying worlds that incorporates both.
Its just a fact that marvel magic works very similar to science. And its not like its the only fantasy realm to do this. Look at D&D mages. They have to study specific words and hand gestures to make a spell work, they have to memorize that spell everytime and do exactly that or it wilk not work. When creating a magic weapon specific spells also need to be cast to craft it.
>>81172672
I mean, do mean historically? If so, then it was sort of both. Early alchemists based a lot of stuff on the ancient Greek concept of the four elements. They reasoned that if all natural objects were composed of some combination of the four elements then you could add or subtract those elements from them and cause them to change. In that point of view it wasn't quite magic (they had different understandings of that and most alchemists would deny that's what they were doing) but more a flawed view of the world. They thought natural laws worked one way, when in reality they worked another.
In medieval European alchemy, though, a more mystical angle intruded. Alchemists started equating their procedures to holy purification, reasoning that the process could be used not just to refine physical object, but to refine their vey souls and become closer to god. General views at the time, though, still saw alchemy as not quite magic. Same for astrology, though they thought that worked under different rules and forces. That's why both those practices endured for so long, when other practices viewed as magic were more brutally stamped out by the church.
>>81172672
Both. It's pseudo-scientific proto-chemistry that dealt with transmutation of matter (like turning lead into gold) and elixirs while incorporating magical circles and astrological symbols and shit.
>>81172769
D&D is a perfect example. How many D&D settings treat magic as an energy force themselves? They're always talking about "raw magical energy" and the like. D&D wizards are always crafting shields and missiles out of the stuff. They put plenty of focus on more borderline sci-fi concepts like telepathy/telekinesis too. And let's not get started of the extensive planar level and dimensions that play a role in those settings, which draw way more from pseudoscience and quantum mechanics than they do from historical magical beliefs.
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the concepts of D&D magic took some of their cues from Dr. Strange; his popularity heyday (with some of his trippiest stories) was at the same time as the formative years of D&D.
>>81172672
One foot in science one foot in magic
>>81161566
>>81161654
>Kat Jennings becomes MCU Whor
>>81173084
That may make MCU Thor actually watchable. I'd rather watch Kat Dennings than plank of wood Hemsworth any day of the week.
>>81173034
>Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the concepts of D&D magic took some of their cues from Dr. Strange; his popularity heyday (with some of his trippiest stories) was at the same time as the formative years of D&D
Pretty sure it did. Not so much the planar stuff, cause that is closer to old fantasy like Lord Dunsany's work. But im sure it influenced the mage mechanics. Strange even runs out/low of spells in some of those old comics.
>>81173212
yeah, she could say kooky stuff like bart simpson and jiggle her tits.
what are some nice dr strange arcs?
>>81172513
>Still hasn't read Dr Strange
>>81172139
I like Busiek's version of SW best, and anyone with taste, of course X-Men fans and Bendis hate it.
Scarlet Witch can tap into powers that no sorcerer could tap into in a million years because Chaos Magic is not based on knowledge and can mesh with science powers, thus meaning Chaos Magic is completely excluded from those not chosen by Chthon, sorcerers think in terms of knowledge.
>>81172513
As mentioned if you read Strange you're realize everything is governed by magic, not science. Even science is actually at the whim of what is decided to be physics today by beings beyond anyone on Earth.
Enjoy your magic realm
>>81173669
fuck that, i quit marvel forever
i didn't realize i was reading kiddy baby magic shit for children
>>81173539
Note the larger runs have certain specific stories/arcs mentioned.
>>81173813
LOL, did magic rape your mother and kill your father or something? Holy shit
>>81172549
>>81172769
I would argue magic in Marvel is not "scientific" in the sense that it does not correspond to our real-world understanding of how physics/the universe work. It's not realistic. The things that happen in a Dr. Strange comic are wildly unrealistic.
What marvel magic is, however, is mechanical. It has its own rules but those rules fit within the setting and are (mostly) consistent. It's not so mysterious that it defies all understanding. Sorcerers can figure out how to use it though years of study and training, but being a mechanical force means that magic consistently acts and reacts in certain ways. This allows other people who are not sorcerers to exploit the same mechanics in different ways, IE your Doctor Dooms, Thanoses, and the like. In this respect Marvel magic is similar to a number of other outlandish and unrealistic but still fairly mechanical forces present in the setting.
>>81168170
It's like they got lazy about it and decided to just not draw all of those islands north of canada
>>81161322
Mads should have been strange desu
>>81168485
Not the person you're talking to but same thing. I was at a friend's for a super bowl/ harry potter party thing and my roommates were surprised that i knew a bunch of the trivia.
I just said i liked the books as a kid and not that i'd googled hermione porn as a kid and got into fanfiction that way
>>81164284
Maybe they'll go back to Star Wars roots and ripoff Kurosawa directly this time.
>>81174067
I dont think you understand what scientific means. It doesnt have to be believable or 'realistic' it just has to have testable and replicatable theories.
Take quantum entanglement for example. No one know how it works or why, but it is testable and replicatible. Hell, the most reasent finding is that not only is space non-existant to it but time as well. An entangled particle from the future can change the state of the one in the past. Kek, i just realized that physics now has retconning in it....
>>81174342
>2016
>Still believing that ANH is a note-for-note riff on The Hidden Fortress
Whowere the major influences about how magic worked in marvel anyway? The way DC magic works was largely created by Gaiman and the Constantine writers, but mostly Gaiman. His influences into magic were old fantssy writers like lovecraft, Lord Dunsany and Jergen where magic was just a plot device to tell your story. Marvel magic is less fantasic and more...d&d
>>81168039
Meh.
I was imagining american magic education to be much more decentralized.
Like small covens spread out instead of big schools like hogwartz.
>>81161566
They should grab another 80's plotline and give Thor the Eric Masterson persona while on Earth.
it's less obscure than Obidiah Stane or Killian
>>81161576
Can they use him after he was in Ghost Rider?
I'd rather Dr Strange lead into the 616 cosmics like Eternity, Stranger, Death, Epoch, Ego, and In Betweener.
Some could be used in the place of others that Fox is holding onto. Like having Exitar instead of Galactus, Cancerverse instead of Negative Zone, High Evolutionary instead of Doom, Zarko instead of Kang.
>>81168867
I thought her detective novels sold super well and did fairly okay?
Or do you mean that other non HP one she did?
>>81169022
Publishers aren't going to publish books they know no one will read. Fortunately, Rowling is such a big draw, whatever she writes will bound to be profitable.
>>81169498
Well, she wrote "The Casual Vacancy" under her name. I recall it being received poorly, but it seems to have received mixed reviews. Her first crime fiction novel under the pseudonym Robert Galbraith got some good reviews too, but she was outed as the real writer pretty quick.
>>81169498
People seem to like those Cormoran Strike novels. Apparently if you want a modern day Agatha Christie-style detective story you could do a lot worse then those.
>>81161610
why are people excited for this movie? why do people care about these characters? we know exactly how its gunna end
>>81168548
The logic of the numbers/size of Hogwarts don't quite add up in a sort of video-gamey way, but if you actually do the maths with the numbers given it turns out there's actually only about 3000 wizards in the whole UK.
>>81178676
>Can they use him after he was in Ghost Rider?
Yes. Marvel got the Ghost Rider rights back a while ago, along with Blade.
>>81161794
That indian one is so fucking stupid.
>>81180408
Isn't that internally consistent though? They all go to one bank, shop at like, one or two secret locations, and their children all attend a single boarding school. The Family Trees of the pureblood wizards are shown to be horribly inbred in the books, which is how you get gibbering retards like Crabbe and Goyle, and it's no wonder the couple of "mudblood" characters seem to be good students. "Damn, Hermione and Lily Evans, how are you so smart?" "Our parents aren't cousins."
>>81181444
top kek
>>81181444
Shush! Don't bash inbreeding, there could be /pol/ lurking around and they have an entire fascism philosophy devoted to how inbreeding creates a superior race.
You don't want to get sucked into that argument.
>>81173213
D&D is pretty firmly based in the Jack Vance novels, to the point that it's referred to as Vancian magic
>>81168039
>trusting one of the most ethnocentric writers of the late 1990s to write a fully envisioned world setting
Rowling is unfortunately a trash writer, and despite taking up a decade to write her series, she wrote herself massively into a corner by seemingly making the world revolve around the british isles.
In many respects it's the same problem Kishimoto had writing Naruto, as he reached the edge of what he possibly thought of initially he had to tack on new ideas that often meshed terribly with the concepts and scope that had come before.
I skimmed over some of Rowling's notes on North American witches and the entire thing comes off as half baked nonsense and awkwardly trying to shoehorn in "native americans" as a single entity to appear multicultural, but failing to capture any real culture.
>>81170917
>I wish you wouldn't post proof that MCU magic is accurate to the comics
