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Batman V Superman Embargo lifts Today


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Batman v Superman embargo lifts at 6pm EST

90% critics review
95% audience

Are you ready to be proved wrong naysayers?
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I'd guess between 70 and 80% on RT after all is said is done
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Will be rotten like MOS, just watch Zack's track on RT
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What's 6pm east in yurop time?
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>>80979758
>90% critics review
>95% audience

In your dreams. it will get 70RT at best, they won't give it more than that but it won't be lower than 60RT because they don't want to harass Terrio.
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fuck op's image made me check. Welp, that's still 11 hours from now anon.
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>explicit embargo is put on film which only lifts after release
>expects movie to get a good critical review
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>>80979758
I'm not the one who needs to make a fake image to justify themselves
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>>80979843
What is Star Wars: The Force Awakens?
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>>80979826
This, how many hours till the embargo is lifted?
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>>80979851
A disappointing movie that got way too high of a score.
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>>80979758
It won't get a high rating because critics hate Snyder. Even if the movie is good.
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>>80979758
I hope you're right anon. I hope you're right.
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>>80979859
What is moving the goalposts?
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Who even cares about RT score? Their ratings are wrong in 90% of cases
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>>80979758
http://www.today.com/video/al-roker-spectacular-batman-v-superman-gets-a-6-out-5-649062979543
>6/5 stars


the movie will be amazing but the score will be rotten because Snyder still has his name on it and critics hate Snyder more than anything
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>>80979758
You're clearly obsessed with this, no matter how good or bad the scores are, you already lost.
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>Man of Steel gets shit reviews
>DC fans say reviews don't matter
>Batman vs Superman gets good reviews
>HAHA IN YOUR FACE MARVELKEKS WE OBVIOUSLY WIN
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>>80979879
I actually think the scores are right 90% of the case (though I usually try to think of an average between review and audience score) except for two times. Speed Racer which got way too low a score and Frozen which got way too high of one
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>>80979879
>Who even cares about RT score?
Casual and no brainers.

>Their ratings are wrong in 90% of cases
Now, this is exaggerated, anon.
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>>80979891
>critics hate Snyder more than anything
Maybe he should stop directing stupid shit.
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>>80979891
Critics hate Snyder because he makes terrible films.
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>>80979913
He direct decent shit, anon. Only stupid shit he direct is Sucker Punch.
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Can't we all agree that RT is shit?
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>>80979879
RT isn't some single group of reviewers, it's an aggregation of every professional review on the film.
If you seriously say all critics are wrong 90% of the time, you're just a pathetic contrarian attention whore.
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>>80979934
not if it agrees with us
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>>80979934
>all agreeing on something
>on 4chan
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63% critics
78% audience

Will be polarizing on /co/ similar to Man of Steel.
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>>80979934
Why? It's just a way to see reviews at a glance. The only ones I've ever disagreed on is sherlock holmes and A game of shadows
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>>80979934
>>80979879
Does /v/ act this way over Gamerankings?
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>>80979937
>professional review on the film.
>professional
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>>80979982
Unless it's ranked as Rotten like MoS is. Then it's shitposting for days
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>>80980020
/v/ and /mu/ seem to prefer focusing on specific critics and review sites.
Not sure about /v/ but /mu/ is always talking about Pitchfork and The Needle Drop rankings/reviews.
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>>80979758
Let's be realistic, MoS deserved better than it got while Ant-man and Thor (naming those because... Well this is only the second movie of the DCU) deserved way less than it got

Don't know if is a hate or trend thing but only if the movie is really really good it will get a 90 plus rating... Even if deserves it the movie will only get it if is a masterpiece
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>>80979937
There's no such thing as 'professional' critic or reviewer, only critic and reviewer.
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>>80979758
Star Wars: The Phantom Menace got good critic reviews and was well-received by the fans as well. Look at it now.
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>>80980081
>Ant-man
No, Ant-Man got the right score

Thor 2 should have been Rotten though yes
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>>80979758
I'd say the lowest is low 70s and the highest it can go is mid 80s
If it hits the 90s then it must be the best superhero movie ever
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>>80980053
>>80980020
Yeah, pretty much, most publishers are considered unreliable for this or that reason (too hype oriented, too corrupt, too sjw etc.) but when a new AAA game comes out /v/ will often look out for the review of a certain French magazine that tends to be more objective, for example
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>>80979904
That's just the double standard injected by superman fans for MOS
Anyone with a brain could see how easily they abandoned that thought process when it came to other movies.
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>>80980020
/v/ doesn't listen to review scores about anything and haven't for a long time because gaming journalism has been poison for over a decade
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Star wars peaked at 75%

7% till this beats it
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>>80980091

Lol. Phantom menace was a joke from day one.
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>>80980128
Just like film/movie critic/reviewer nowadays desu, finally someone with common sense.
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>trusting RT
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>>80980133


How is Civil war at 1%?

HOW??
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>>80980102
Fuck that Ant man was a fucking mess the good parts were clearly Wright all over the script the rest was a bland movie from start to finish.

Cleary the director could do shit about it and while the scenes from Wright were great it didn't save the movie.
For me the movie is a close 70
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>>80979826
10pm gmt
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>>80980169
Cause it doesn't come out for a month as opposed to this week?
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>>80980156
But reloaded is good.
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>>80980152
I think film reviewing is slightly a little bit more (slightly) viable than game review.

Any AAA game, even if it's the biggest piece of shit can be given high reviews across the board because the companies generally pay the sites to advertise them. In order for a AAA game to not get high marks it basically has to shit the bed in every direction (and even that isn't an exact science because the fact that the PC port of Arkham Knight or Assassin's Creed Unity had anything other than 0s is a sin)

However movies get a little more objective because they are high-profile. It's almost the reverse of games. Like for example, let's compare Transformers 4. That, in the game world, would be a AAA game, but that movie has like a 13% on RT. Yes it made a bajillion dollars but it's widely seen as shit. This applies to a lot of other movies too (like say, MoS) where there will be a lot of hype behind a movie but still not get high scores. You think AoU would be so much lower than Avengers' aggregate score in the game world? No way, the reviews would be even higher or at least closer
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>>80980169
Less hype right now, BvS comes out in 3 days. I was shocked that BvS sold more on CW's first day of sales
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>>80979758
>someone was desperate enough to make this shop
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>>80980156
I'm more than okay with Prince of Darkness having negative reviews.
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>>80980156
The thing is you're comparing old movies that were around before RT even existed to newer ones

All those new reviews have over 200 critics while the old ones have a bit over 100
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>>80980214
>I'm more than okay with letting everyone know I'm a retard
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>>80980133
IT'S AT 69%


Will it beat star wars?
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>>80979872
Hey man, you were the one who asked what Force Awakens was.
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>>80980234
I'm sorry I insulted your film about the antichrist being a thermos of Hi-C Ecto Cooler that literally screams in bits and bytes which most people only remember for a 5 second jumpscare.
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>>80980133
press "F" to pay respects
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>>80980133
>>80980169
I don't get how this site works, why are the numbers always floating? CW was first 7% now you're saying it's just 1%, yesterday I'm pretty sure BvS was at 44% despite being higher before. And why does it specify "in the last 24 hours", does it mean they recount every single day? What's the total number of tickets per day then?
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>>80980245
>>80980133
You do know that presale tickets are irrelevant towards the final box office numbers right?
Furious 7 had almost 60% presale tickets sold, while AoU had 21% and F7 only made 100 million more.
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>>80980081
>MoS deserved better than it got
It really didn't. You're just a jaded shill.
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>>80980201
>Transformers 4
>MoS
>AoU
Honestly, I feels like you insult me with this kind of example.
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>>80980265


It refreshes everyday.


Star wars has only ever reached 75%, but batman v superman looks like its beating it.


Civil war is on 0.5-1%
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>>80980285
Why?
They are all blockbusters made for money.
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>prebuying tickets
What's with this americuck obsession of paying for things before they get them?
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>>80980285
Did you understand the context I was referring to them as or did you just see the names and flip out?
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>bad pacing
>first act is pretty slow
>third act feels rushed
>Justice League setup is forced
>Knightmare scene is abrupt and completely halts the plot
>ending is dumb

If BvS gets any where above a 65% on RT, I'll be surprised.
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>>80980308
Well in a Britbong and I got my tickets in March, they sell out fast, gotta have that IMAX screening
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>>80980331
>Movie is literally another AoU that looks a bit prettier
Called it
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MMMMM BOYS!
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>>80980156
Only God Forgives is shit.
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BAT OF MURDER
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>>80980450
Batman has always been BAT OF MURDER.
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>>80980450
Tell that to Burton and especially fucking Nolan.
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>>80980471
I never saw the bit in batman 1989 where he kills someone. Where is it?
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>>80980331
It's the same loser who used to make the dc cringe threads back at /tv/

He's the "hack Snyder" and "Snydersheep" Autist too
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>>80980331
The only highlights I see that are common are Affleck, Eisenberg and Gadot are all good in their respective roles.
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>>80980331
>>80980375
>>80980394
>>80980450

How much does Disney pay you, samefagging shill?
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>>80980572

He does it for free.
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>>80980572
I didn't mean it as an insult, not necessarily, I still enjoy AoU despite the obvious flaws, I'll probably feel the same with BvS
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>>80980527
I'm sure he kill many no name gangsters in 89 and return, not as much as Bale's Batman though.
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>>80980156
I really liked The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou, and Wes Anderson films in general but 56% is really harsh. Selma has good acting but i feel it's far overrated, there are so many black slavery films and 12 years a slave came just a year before that.

Die hard 3 is shit, only the first one is good. The whole point of the movie is your average joe in the wrong place wrong time.
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>>80980308
i preordered my tickets a week ago, so i can choose my seats...
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Hey Fuck you OP I thought reviews were out
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>>80980699
Why do so many people care about reviews?
Just go watch the movie.
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>>80979758
>Are you ready to be proved wrong naysayers?

I would love to be proven wrong. I just don't really expect it.
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>>80980702
>Why do so many people care about reviews?
for shitposting purposes
this place is going to go to shit in about 9 hours
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>>80980702
I am gonna watch the movie
I hate fags who lie
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>>80980714
>BvS now
>CW in a few weeks
>X-Men Apocalypse just 2 weeks later
Goddamn it, this place is going to become [s4s] with superheroes for months.
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>>80979859
How you darei? Rotten Tomatoes is the fucking PERFECT way that we from /tv/ use to check if a movie is objectvelly good or not!
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>>80980731
a melting pot of memes seasoned with salty tears
goddamn /co/ and /tv/ will be everywhere
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>>80979891
>today
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>>80980735
>Implying
/tv/ is way too contrarian to trust RT
If you have to shitpost do it right
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>>80980702
This is a stupid position and I see it posed very often. Allow me to explain.

1) Without reviews, all you have to go by is what the marketing tells you. There has been no shortage of horrible, miserable movies with great marketing. That, or you can just go by the title. God help you then.

2) Not everyone can go to every movie they're interested in. Be it due to financial reasons, logistics, or free time. This means you can't afford to take a lot of risks when going to the movie - you have to do your best to make sure the movie you're gonna pay money and spend time on will be enjoyable.

Just as an example, I was very for FF. Great director, great cast, trailers looked okay, apart from Doom. But then I saw the reviews and I didn't go see the movie. I would've regretted seeing it.

That said, the best way to inform yourself on whether a movie is going to be enjoyable or not, is to find critics you enjoy and whose opinion you usually share.
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>>80980527
He drops a bomb in a factory where there are like 30 of Joker's henchmen killing them and he throws one off of a high place.

Also he straight up tries to kill the joker by shooting him with his bat plane's machine guns (Real bullets, honest).
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I'm ready for the shilling to stop. Feel free, anytime.
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>>80980766
The problem is that reviews are part of marketing.
Can't trust anything.
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>>80980766
>I was very for FF. Great director, great cast, trailers looked okay
you either need to watch more movies or stop watching movies altogether because none of that was true
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>>80980791
>implying Chronicle was bad
>implying Michael B Jordan and Miles Teller are bad actors
Dont know how he thought the trailers looked good tho
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>>80980780
I see you missed the last sentence of my post.

>>80980791
I have no words to describe how shit your opinion is. It's bordering on being factually wrong, even though it's just an opinion.

>>80980815
I said they looked 'okay', not good. It looked like they were going a semi-horror movie route, like they'd be treated as monsters, which they kinda are, and which is what the FF started out as in comics.
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>>80980135
youre too young to remember.

Everyone loved it when it came out.
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78%

SCREENCAP THIS
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>>80980541
>all those pictures have different filenames
>it's also a commonly used reaction image

You're not that smart are you?
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>>80980833
This. I feel like everyone was just shellshocked, myself included. Our brains refused to believe it was as bad as it was, so we deluded ourselves into thinking it must be amazing.
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>>80980766
>Just as an example, I was very for FF. Great director, great cast, trailers looked okay

You watch the trailer and you can tell it will be suck, no need to read the review.

And most of capeshit are popcorn flick that you watch it for shit and giggle and fuck reasons so you don't even need a review for it.
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So, that's 9 hours until this place becomes shit posting central, welp. See you in a year /co/, I'll stick around for Storytimes every Wednesday Night but I'll be steering clear from everything else
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>>80980791
Miles Teller in Whiplash was good, although J.K. Simmons owned that movie.
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>>80980873
>You watch the trailer and you can tell it will be suck, no need to read the review.
Sure, m8. Tell me again how the trailers for The Phantom Menace made it clear it was gonna suck.

>And most of capeshit are popcorn flick that you watch it for shit and giggle and fuck reasons so you don't even need a review for it.
I know, right? Just like The Dark Knight. Such a popcorn gigglefest.
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>>80980469
So why didn't this defense work with Superman?
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>>80980900
not just Phantom Menace, but a lot of M Night Shaynigger's trailers are misleading as well
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>>80980900
>trailers for The Phantom Menace made it clear it was gonna suck
I did not watch that one so I dunno.

>The Dark Knight. Such a popcorn gigglefest
I said most of it not all of it, pleb.
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>>80980331
I actually agree with the score prediction but

>Justice League setup is forced
Lex being Lex

>>Knightmare scene is abrupt and completely halts the plot
Shows what evil Superman would be like

It's not rocket science.
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>>80980934
>I did not watch that one so I dunno.
So you've never seen a good trailer for a bad movie? Have you seen more than 5 movies and their trailers in your life? Because it seems to me that you haven't, considering how common this is.

>I said most of it not all of it, pleb.
So because most movies in a given genre are similar, according to you, that is, you should just throw your money and time away? Brilliant.
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>>80979758
/CO/ ABSOLUTELY ASS RAVAGED
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>>80980907
>being this dense
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Hey look it's the shitheads who want to post off topic shit on /co/. Fuck off, tards.
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I'm expecting 60% to mid 70's.

The community score would probably be in the 80's.
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>>80979758
There's been nothing but praise from people whove seen it, even from the ones that didnt like MoS too much. Maybe Snyder got fucking lucky with Terrio. Hopefully he sticks for many more films.
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>>80979843
>thing literally every single movie does
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>>80980331
>no source
fakkit
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YEAH COMPANY WARS AHAHA EVERYONE SUCKS BUT ME!

meanwhile us sane folks are getting a slew of cape movies all year and it's great.
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>>80981086
If Snyder gets just 76% it will still be certified fresh and his best tomato rating to date. Just 75% and he matches his Dawn of the Dead.remake. And this is being optimistic since with his track record there's no way he's reaching 80.
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>>80981162
>triggered
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>>80981180
75% is the minimum for certified fresh

It's going to be rocky.
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>>80981052
What? You ask me have I ever watch PM trailer, I said no, that's it. Have I ever saw a good trailer for bad movie? Plenty, then learn and avoid it. Anything else you want to ask? Or to bash?

>So because most movies in a given genre are similar, according to you, that is, you should just throw your money and time away? Brilliant.
Seriously? I just throw my money and time for the one that I want to watch. Also, Why the hell did I have to watch all of it? Unlike you, I knows my own shit and what I want to watch.

Hey, tell me something, Are you retard or has brain problem? You sound like one.
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>>80979851
Pretty good if you don't shit on everything popular for the sake of it
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>>80979928
Name one movie he directed well. Watchmen is probably his most popular, and that was only salvageable because of the script and storyboard taken wholesale from the comic; everything Snyder added/removed from the movie was terrible.
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>>80980039
>implying there won't be shitposting regardless
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>>80979758

who gives a fuck? holy hell. see the film, judge it for yourself.

RT is inconsistent as shit
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Everyone and every feminist / woman site is loving wonder woman.

Critics don't want to offend them. This movie is an automatic 80%+
Thank you Goddess Gal
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>>80981446
Not to mention that two of the movie's stars are Jewish. Now you wouldn't be wanted to be branded as a Nazi, would you?
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>film gets bad reviews
>"told you so"

>gets good reviews
>"p-paid shills"

there is no winning here, DCbros.
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>>80981113
>There's been nothing but praise from people whove seen it

Twitter isn't a reflection of quality. Remember all those "First Impressions!" from Fan4stic? When everyone was saying it was brilliant and the best movie of the year?
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>>80981546
there never was
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>>80981446
Is there any more sexy staff with her?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS7LYoORDH4
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>>80981542
>GhostBusters will (probably) get this pass too
I don't know how to feel about this.
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>>80980871
>I-I totally didn't change the file names


Hahaha you retard
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>>80981254
I don't know who has brain problems at this stage. You're literally claiming to be able to tell if you'll like a movie without watching anything but its trailer. Either you're some kind of clairvoyant, or you're a retarded contrarian.
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>>80981446
I'm honestly impressed that they hid her skeletal nature so well in the film.
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>>80981343
Not that guy but if you wanna name his better work isn't that supposed to be Dawn of the Dead? And if you wanna discuss about direction and pacing even 300 is better than Watchmen in that area.
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>>80980156

Every one of these scores is accurate though.
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Wonder lane

I ship them
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>>80981560
You mean the 4 whole tweets everyone and their mother shared?
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>>80981625
You clearly are because in that post I talk about F4. Don't shove what you 'think' as my'claim', kid.
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https://twitter.com/Variety/status/712018593798467584
>>80979934
RT is complete garbage. Even if the movie gets 100% I won't care in the least, and I think this movie's going to be good.
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>Not 100%
Time to reset the clock
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>>80981560
I don't actually remember that. In fact, I remember a lot of tweets from the first impressions calling it shit.
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>>80981546
Apparently it's a good movie. This is unexpected from Synder.
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>>80981743
Some websites shared the same 4 positive tweets weeks before thr movie came out and people on here are pretending like that's the same as thr universal and widespread praise bvs is getting right now.
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That one review translated from Spanish yesterday was just disgusting levels of shill you have to admit
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>>80979758
I'll watch it to determine if the movie sucks anon. I don't get validation from rotten tomatoes.
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>>80981834
I think you're just jealous Zack Snyder made the number 1 comic book movie of all time that will change superhero cinema forever
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>>80979758
fake as fuck, familia
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>>80981834
Yes, and? I fail to see how that has bearing on anything.
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>>80981753
Except...

Dawn of the dead --- great, among the top 7-8 best zombie movies ever.

300 --- Good serviceable fantasy war film, very iconic but lacks substance.

Watchmen --- Perfectly good almost great superhero movie and is slavishly faithful to the comic on a mostly superficial level. Only real flaw of note is Laurie's actress sucks.

Man of Steel --- Fucking fantastic earth one toned Superman movie with a 2 flaws at key-ish moments, those flaws however have little barring on the quality of everything else.
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>>80981896
He never claimed it was real, retard.
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>>80981896
>fake as fuck, familia
We know

>>80981904
>very iconic
Not for the right reasons at all
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>>80979758
I'm ready for the memes, if that's what you mean.
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>>80981904
>Dawn of the dead --- great, among the top 7-8 best zombie movies ever.
1-2.) NOTLD (68) = DawnOTD (78)
3.) Zombie (1979)
4.) NOTLD (90)
5.) Return of the Living Dead (85)
6.) DawnOTD (04)
7.) Day of the Dead (85)
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>>80981915
>Not for the right reasons at all
Visual impressiveness and memorable performances are not right reasons???
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>>80981904
>Dr. Manhattan's Cock - The Movie
>Good
AYY

FUCKING

LMAO
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>>80979758
That is by far the biggest turnaround from the first to second movie I've ever seen on Rotten Tomatoes.

Bravo DC.
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>>80982012
It's fake.
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>>80980081
No, I'm sorry. This success does not vindicate your love of a widely agreed to be shitty movie.
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>>80981990
That is like saying the comic is not good because of the same thing, that tiny visual element you disprove of has nothing to do with the quality of the writing/acting or anything else. Fuck off!
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>>80982012
I think that goes to Wrath of Khan
47 -> 88
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>>80980263
f
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>>80979758
Who /tomorrow/ here?
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>>80982045
>This success does not vindicate your love of a widely agreed to be shitty movie.
Not him but Fresh 161 vs Rotten 128 is not a agreement on jack shit mother fucker.
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Zack Snyder and Chris terrio are now responsible for the highest grossing superhero movie in existence


And the 2nd most critically acclaimed one
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>>80981896
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>>80981732
I agree, RT is the most bullshit normie rating site there is. Id rather shift through metacritics piles of filth over RT.
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>>80981732
>>80982105
Reminder that Twilight his a higher audience score than Rocky on RT
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>>80982147
For the zillionth time, don't take into consideration the RT scores for movies that were released before the internet was a thing.


It doesn't take a lot of brain to understand that the only reviews these movies will get are contrarian ones.
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Jewish actress

Award winning screen writer

Award winning cast

Feminist icon

Batman


=90%++
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>>80981683
>get it! Fan4stic! 4 tweets!
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86% calling it
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>>80982093
>delusions
Not that I expected anything else from the 1.jpg shitposter.
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>>80982105
>the most bullshit normie rating site there is
That is IMDB, RT is no better though.
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>>80982224
So basically, scores have lost all it's meaning.
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>>80982182
Thats some good review site you got there if you disregard a large portion of some of the best cinema, then you can take it seriously. RT is shit and only normies who cant think for themselves go there or care.
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Reminder that the Fresh and Rotten rating is entirely separate from the number/star score or letter grade.

The same middle of the road score like Snyder tends to get might go either way depending on the critic.
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Not a single bad review, even from MOS haters
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I'm super hyped for this, and wish it nothing but the best, but its not getting anything more than 65%, it will be like MoS, audiences like it, critics hate it. Oh well, I'll have fun
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Its funny, the only time ratings annoy me is when some asshat uses a decimal system or goes "110%!" scoring.
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>>80982272
who?
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>>80982272
>Is it kid friendly?
Fuck your kids, how about reading the rating system? Also fuck you if you take your kid to a midnight screening
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>>80979758
I thought it'd be shit, but I'd love it if i was wrong. I don't understand why someone would root for more shitty movies in the world.
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>>80982233
Wow, nice argument. Can't dispute those facts!!


Fucking retard.
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>>80982309
I only care if all the reviews say its so shit its unimaginable, like if it got all 1s and gave viewers arse cancer
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>>80982272
>implying Drew McWeeny et al will ever drop the "JL will be canceled" rumor and won't do literally everything they can to support that narrative
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>>80982093
WB should give Terrio a lifetime contract, the guy has made the impossible, writing a great non divisive Snyder movie.
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>>80982409
>non divisive
Just wait, the masses are going to wonder why Batman is going on a rampage.
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Don't even care about the review, I WILL see the movie Because I want to KNOW what happens in itm what kinda characters it has, the action sequences, what superman and batman says to each other, what it's STORY? I'm legitimately INTERESTED in it.

t's times like these reviews just don't matter.
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I want this to succeed but don't count your chickens before they're hatched.
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>post yfw BVS gets a greater than 75 RT score and there's nothing haters can do about it
>post yfw BVS earns more than Avengers and there's nothing haters can do about it
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>>80982461
Oh WOW man no NEED to type like a REDDITOR.
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>>80982481
>yfw 60% RT
>yfw barely breaks a billion
>yfw DC fans still love it
>yfw JL is unstoppable at this point
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>>80982481
75-79 is still low
80-89 is average
90 and above is great
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>>80982481
>numbers is all people on /co/ care about
Movies made this place /v/eddit with superheroes.
Absolutely disgusting.
Can't even discuss the movies without company war nerds fucking it all up.
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>>80982481
Even if Cavill dies today in a car accident or kills himself after, it won't do Avengers numbers.
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>>80982508
0-100 is irrelevant because RT is the Metacritic of movies.
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>>80982481


>Batman v Superman does more than 80%+
>Earns $200 million more than the avengers

I can't wait.
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>>80982525
They're more or less objective indicators of quality and the higher they are the more people will see it

Buzz can sometimes make the difference. Green Lantern died because of bad buzz and everyone followed it. Yet Transformers keep making money despite bad reviews because people love giant robots.

Are we DC fans really content to have our franchise be the Transformers of superheroes? Snyder has to do better dammit.
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>>80980263
F
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>>80982525
>>80982506

Butt mad you know who's on full damage control
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>>80980587
kek
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>>80982654
Hey I just stated that even if this gets a divisive reaction like MoS, JL is an inevitability
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>>80982533
Oh, we'll see. We'll see.
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>>80982713
Ok, we'll see.

But if it doesn't, I want you faggots out of /co/ forever.
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"Congratulations Batman v Superman for dethroning the avengers"


Can't wait
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>>80981193
he just said that he enjoys all those cape movies why would he be triggered ?
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>>80982533
>Cavill
>Dying

P-pls no, my husbando must live on forever ;-;
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>>80982481

Press F to pay respects to marvel
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>>80982753
Why are people excited for sales?
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>>80982791
It's not a big loss considering that in 2 years he will only be suitable to play Kotzak
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>>80982608
>>80982654
>>80982753
I wonder what's going on with the 1.jpg neckbeard's life to be this angry about movies.
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>>80982831
Hey /tv/, your grandfather got out again

you wanna come get him?
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>>80982856
Considering that he also samefags like there's no tomorrow, god knows.

At least he started using new images.
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>>80979758
>Reviews

http://m.milenio.com/firmas/alvaro_cueva_elpozodelosdeseosreprimidos/Batman_vs_Superman-Hombre_de_acero-Ben_Affleck_18_705109492.html


>I had the honor to be present at the Batman v Superman premier this past Saturday in the Auditorio Nacional of Mexico City.

>Independent of the pride I felt while seeing those stars and creators of one of the most powerful cinematographic enterprises in the whole world, I have something very important to tell you, not only as a professional critic with 29 years of experience. I’ll tell you as a friend: I love Batman v Superman! I went crazy with it. It made me dream, laugh, shake, shout, and even yearn.

>If there’s anybody who could have those characters’ emblems tattooed to their skin, it’s me. They mean much to me. I adore them, I dominate them.

>Well, just how I’m saying, this is the best superhero movie to date. The biggest of them all! I have the professional obligation of saying, with all the pain in my heart, that as a blockbuster, it is infinitely superior to other recent phenomena like Star Wars VII: TFA

>Why? For a simple reason: there’s editorial sustenance, a proposal at the content level.
>Batman v Superman isn’t a film just for people who look for entertainment to have a good time watching fights and special effects. It’s a profound work of art, where those who care will find tremendous political, economical, and social commentary.


>Don’t worry, I won’t sell you on the plot. That (selling you the plot, not the plot itself) doesn’t matter to me. What I want you to understand is the magnitude of this film which will be released in a few days, and that you should run out with your family to see it.

>Don’t miss it for anything. I’m convinced that there will be a “before” and “after” Batman v Superman in the universe of superheroes as well as in the history of cinematography. Don’t you care about being part of history? Don’t you care about being able to say “I was there”?
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>>80979758
>>80980133
>>80980541
>>80981446
>>80981678
>>80982093
>>80982224
>>80982272
>>80982608
>>80982654
>>80982753
Amazing, this guy has spent 4 hours straight samefagging in his own thread and being a living shillbot.
What's wrong with you?
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>Let’s start from the controversy. Millions of fans in five continents had doubted this film being good, and that the actors gave great performances. If there’s anything complicated in this industry, it’s creating content about superheroes that respects each of their origins, that has logic, and that at the same time are capable of creating something new.

>But wait, when talking about the cast, it gets worse. A lot of people have played Batman, Superman, and let’s not even talk about Wonder Woman.

>Not everyone can handle the comparisons (to previous actors on the same role), not to mention everything you have to undertake to play these roles at the physical and emotional level. It’s the most demanding thing in the world.

>Well, if you had your doubts, then forget about them. Batman v Superman is fabulous.
>It respects the essence of the comics, of the characters, and it elevates them to a level comparable to Greek or Egyptian myth.
>We’re facing something very strong, powerful, and perfect. And the cast is amazing.

> Ben Affleck’s life will never be the same. His Batman is potent, immense; a great discovery. It has something which no previous Batman has had in any movie: leadership.

>What manner of constructing something huge, credible, and with moral weight. It’s impossible to look at him and not adore and respect him.

>Henry Cavill is still the best Superman of all time, but there’s something very obvious in the film, and it’s his growth as an actor. This man isn’t only the Man of Steel, he’s the great actor who can take on anybody without losing that tone of a superhero role.

>Gal Gadot makes of Wonder Woman one of the most complete and complex creations from cinema in recent years. This isn’t even a gender issue, it’s a superior matter which involves men, women, children and adults. It’s the most sublime fusion imaginable between a comics character and a flesh-and-bones human.
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>>80982874
Millenials are not allowed on 4chin you idiot, go back to tumblr
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>>80982885
>everyone in the posts talking about how much Snyder cum went down his throat
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>>80982910
>And this is just the tip of the iceberg, as Batman v Superman isn’t just about these characters, it’s about much, much more. It’s full of surprises, which of course you’ll have to discover at the silver screen. >Surprises which range from appearances of other DC characters, incredible situations which relate the news we read all day, and impressive audiovisual imagery. Each shot sends a message, even Mexico appears in the film! And believe me that it appears exactly where it had to show something that had to be said.

>If you appreciate your time and money, invest them in going to watch Batman v Superman, because those tickets will sell out, and it would be a shame for you not to be there. I guarantee you, as a friend and a critic, that it’s worth the while, and that when you come out of the theater, you will be transformed and end up a happier person. Not much, right?
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>>80982910
>Gal Gadot makes of Wonder Woman one of the most complete and complex creations from cinema in recent years. This isn’t even a gender issue, it’s a superior matter which involves men, women, children and adults. It’s the most sublime fusion imaginable between a comics character and a flesh-and-bones human.


Convince me this isn't a paid review.
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>>80982912
Take your pills gramps
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>>80982934
If you understand spanish, check out the posts.
Literally everyone is laughing at him.
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>>80982856
>>80982878


ALOT OF LOYALTY FOR A HIRED SHILL
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>>80982950
>still 1.jpg
Might as well use a trip.
>>
Exactly how much money has WB spent on shills for this movie?
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>>80982934
SUBLIME FUSION
U
B
L
I
M
E

F
U
S
I
O
N
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>>80982878
>>80982892

I don't think you know what samefag means
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>>80982968
He also uses the trip "spoiler"
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>>80982885
>Mexican newspaper review
As a Mexican I must tell you they're all bullshit.
>>
So when can we expect to see more reviews?
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>>80983027
Serious reviewers normally wait for the paid review rampage.
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>>80982753
I'm an xmen fag, and nothing would make me happier than this
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>>80982885
>''This guy is ill, lately every single movie gives him visual orgasms.''

>''Who said fanboy? Only thing left was blowing Snyder and recording it. This ''review'' does nothing but show the fanboyism of the writer.''

>''Alvaro, thank you, but no thank you. I remember when some of you recommended ''Una pelicula de huevos'' and you were all praising it, like you now. Had to leave the theatre, it was a fucking bore.''

My sides.
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>>80983027
6pm est

oh god I just realized how awful /co/ is going to be during the Flash talkback
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>>80983059
falseflag as fuck
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>>80983059
>xmen fag
You people still exist? Are you hype for that Gambit movie?
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>>80983059
Of course, FOX will never make a movie that even gets to 1 billion.
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>>80983072
It's literally the best place to be. Hopefully they don't shit it up
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>>80983091
... they've made several
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>>80983087
Yup. You should lurk moar
I'm not hyped for Gambit, but it's okay if it's made

>>80983091
I don't care. I only want disney to fail
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>>80983059
Of course you are.
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>>80983072
Just realized it was "pm" not am. Well I'm dumb.
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>>80982934
>>80982981


>P-paid reviews


This can't be happening

I'M IN CHARGE HERE
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>>80983110
>the best
Sure, can't miss thousands of post per hour or company war neets throwing shit at each other.
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>>80983134
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>>80983134
Why?
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>>80983154
believe what you want
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>>80982910
>>80982927
>>80982934
Disgusting.
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>>80982892
Shitposting is hard yo
gotta keep false flagging in hopes I make some non existent Marvel drone mad

These kinds of Posters I wager come from /v/ /r9k/ or places of the like where there is a huge demand for an us vs them mentality.
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>>80983168
>still 1.jpg
At this point, I think you are just a Marveldrone flaseflagging.
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>>80983202
because disney sucks
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>>80979758
It lifts 6 PST, not EST.

https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/710696195857915904
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>>80983186
>things that never happened
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>>80982989
The jpgs all come from the same phone anon.
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>>80983186
I think that anon means the talkback thread not /co/
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>>80983239
Things that are already happening.
Link me a BvS thread that isn't in fully-fledged company wars.
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>>80983233
should be for>>80983198
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>>80983091
Avatar
And X-men apocalypse, which will likely btfo civil war
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>>80983255
>BvS
I'm talking about the Flash
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>>80982224
What does Stephen think?
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>>80983217
I don't think he's a comic fan.
I think he's just using /tv/ tactics in hopes some on is rustled.
>>
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>>80983265
Nobody cares about X-Men Apocalypse.
Wouldn't be surprised if they made less than DOFP.
Both Civil War and BvS trailers created quite a fuss everywhere, from 4chan to twitter.
No one has bothered discussing X-Men Apocalypse anywhere, and i'm not surprised.
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>>80983280
Now that's a 10/10 movie
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>>80983280
I would watch that
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>>80983154

I don't get it
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>>80983280
Chris Evans as guest.
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>>80983303
>hyped
>about civil wart
yeah right
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this is how starts
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>>80983388
>there's no hype about this
/co/ every year about a movie that ends up making 5-6 times it's budget
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>>80983303
And I would say the opposite
I guess that you're one of the fags who thought that Zoolander 2 would beat Deadpool
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>>80983059


I want civil war to fail.

Anyone else feel the same?
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>>80983409
>I would say the opposite
And you would be wrong.
No one cares about X-Men, the capeshit market is all for Marvel and DC.
FOX has just kind of been there floating idly for years, not knowing exactly what to do.
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>>80983407
Ha.
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>>80983407
THE END IS NIGH
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>>80983407
As expected from Snyder, heh.
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>>80983408


Civil war will underperform. No stopping that. Stay mad tho
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>>80983429
>>80983059
Stop falseflagging marveldrones.
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>>80983429
Yes
Death to the mouse

>>80983434
>that damage control
keep telling yourself that
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>>80979758
You snyderfags spent the last 3 years saying that RT scores were bullshit and not indicative of quality.

Even if this movie scores 100% all I have to do at this point is quote your own posts back at you.
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>>80983457
>MCU movie
>underperforming
Absolutely impossible.
Fucking Antman made half a billion.
A movie about fucking.
Antman.
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>>80983458
>Implying it's not salty X-Fags
They've gotten uppity after Deadpool
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>>80983479
and was still considered a disappointment
same with AoU
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>>80983494
X-Fags don't exist.
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>>80983507
That's what they want you o think
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>>80983497
>a dissapointment
Why?
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>>80983507
Good goy
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>>80983444
>>80983443
>>80983440

You do know it's not a real review right?
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>>80983529
because AoU were supposed to make much more
and ant-man had one of the lowest opening for any mcu movie
it also resulted with Perlmutter being btfo of mcu
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>BvS bombs
>MoS all over again
>RT doesn't matter

>BvS is a success
>RT matters
>will have to admit MoS is garbage
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>>80983475
>You snyderfags spent the last 3 years saying that RT scores were bullshit and not indicative of quality.
Its because MOS SPECIFICALLY was biased against in the reviews, most of the other Snyder ratings are reasonable.
>>
>>80983479

Age of ultron will totally make more than the first avengers hahah


:^)
>>
>Not only is this a big let down in every sense, it makes you wonder if the rest of the DC Comics films will have the same fate.


AAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH


DKEKS BTFO
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>>80983558
>>will have to admit MoS is garbage
No, it just shows that BVS is enjoyable for a larger number of people unlike MOS which had aspects that limited its target audience.
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>>80982885
>>80982910
>>80982927

Mexican here.

Alvaro Cueva is full of shit. He is easily impressionable on almost everything he watches. I barely seen him giving a negative opinion on anything he reviewed. He has a show in which he reviews TV shows, movies, soap operas, Netflix series, etc.

He even likes Naruto and Mexican soap operas (the bad ones) and his watchers/readers laugh at him for his shit taste. So no, don´t trust him. Just another gigantic fanboy.

When Civil War arrives, I´m sure I will read this same fucking kind of review again.

If you want better reviews, wait for Tony Boomer of Reforma. Guy is harsh and honest, kind of mexican Roger Ebert.

Also
>SUBLIME FUSION
kek

Sorry for posible bad english
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Its almost here.......the biggest shitstorm ever.....good, bad, it doesnt matter. People will be mad
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>>80983549
How not? it's counted
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>>80983407
THE FEVER. THE RAGE.
>>
IT'S OVER! SNYDER IS FINISHED!

>This Movie is Trash In an A**
>What was Zachy boy thinking huh? Oh baloney, this movie was pretty bad. For starters I didn't appreciate Superman's entrance sequence to Sussudio by Phil Collins, thought it was a bit odd. When superman met Spiderman though, that was the coolest part. Superman tells spider-man he can bring him to the hospital to deal with his degenerative bone disease, but Batman shows up and punches Superman in his jolly ranchers. I enjoyed the initial build up, it was cool to see superman living as Clark Kent and Batman as David Banner, sometimes you wonder which is the real one and which is the pseudonym. By far the worst moment was the return of the Batusi, though it was cool to see Batman get "jiggy" with some classic Will Smith tracks. The ending will probably upset people the most though because it makes a definitive statement on who the winner is, and I bet people are gonna be pretty cheesed. Spoiler alert, superman jumps onto batman's shoulders and they form SuperBatman and fight the evil Decepticons that have come to rule Earth. This movie blows wads, but you might find pleasure in the multiple scenes where Batman excuses himself from the fight to wingtip his torpedo (if you know what I mean!) to the many sexy billboards in NYC. I liked how the movie made a statement about the sexism of the billboard industry, they put too much sexy stuff on there and even vigilante heroes can't hold back from yanking their chicken neck.

www.imdb.com/title/tt2975590/reviews?start=20
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>>80983556
>and ant-man had one of the lowest opening for any mcu movie
No shit, it's fucking Ant-Man.
And it still made half a billion.

>it also resulted with Perlmutter being btfo of mcu
Which is one of the best things that could have happened to the MCU.
No Perlmutter, no more whining about budgets, no more Marvel Creative Comittee, which is responsable for pretty much all the executive meddling in the MCU and also it'll let Fiege finally start getting Marvel into videogames, since he has always wanted to work on them, but Perlmutter always had the final say.
>>
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/batman_vs_superman/batman-v-superman-imax-review-mild-spoilers-a132400

Released two hours ago apparently
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>>80983556
AoU was the only disappointment. Ant-man was fine, no one expected him to perform like Thor.

>Perlmutter being btfo of mcu
Feige: Just as plan.
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>>80983608
>>80983407
>6/10
>ROTTEN
N-NO!!! THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING!!!!!
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>>80983549
it's right there on the site
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>>80983608
>6
>rotten
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>>80983206
They planned the fan screening over a year ago while the movie was still filming.
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>>80983609
>For starters I didn't appreciate Superman's entrance sequence to Sussudio by Phil Collins, thought it was a bit odd.
That sounds great tbqh
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>>80983662
It simply cannot happen.
In fact, it has never happened.
>>
>>80983612
>>80983629
>that much marvelshilling
and people seriously think that there are no shills on /co/
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>>80983609
Man, I wish that even one of these was true
>>
>>80983662
>>80983679
At least wait one second, samefag.
>>
>>80983679
Oh there are, but for DC
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>>80983669
it already happened. you just don't know it yet, because you still live in a fantasyworld
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>>80983549
>T-THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING
>MUH CAPEKINO
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>>80983407
>>80983608

6/10 that's above average

So whys it rotten?

Who hacked it?
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>>80983697
>y-you'll see
Welcome to the real world, pham.
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>>80983705
Looks like this movie must crash and burn
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>>80983716
>NO U
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>>80983608
>>80983609
Sound like some faggot rant, when will the actual critic review comes?
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>>80983612
Was Perlmutter behind that Avengers game that apparently never saw the light of day publicly?
It looks a little outdated today of course, but it looks like it could have been quite fun and decent enough a few years back.
https://youtu.be/7bd4OeguMpI
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>>80983733
I dont think anyones careers will survive
>>
>>
>>80983756
Don't think so, Perlmutter was the one who wanted to avoid videogames entirely.
Fiege was in talks at some point with Platinum Games to make a Captain America game.
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>>80983781
Talk about the fucking movies, directing, pacing not, story, not your taste, goddamn.
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>>80983781
>steel man
my fucking sides
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>>80983826
He's using google translate.
>>
The review is pure /tv/-tier shitpost.

The guy complained about the comic-book-y aspect of the film, saying that it didn't do justice to the realism of Man of Steel.
Complained about Batman killing, complained about Gal Gadot's body, complained about Geoff John's involvement in Justice League's choices, and so on.

The guy actually think Man of Steel was good.
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>>80979985
I haven't really been able to take RT seriously since Avengers scored in the 90s. It seems like every MCU film, demonstrated most blatantly by the Thor ones, is guaranteed a good score, so it's impossible to trust RT with them or to rank them by quality, since they all score the same regardless of their individual levels of quality. And I already knew, prior to this, that critics hate certain genres like horror and comedy due to general elitism.

I've actually found IMDB, which is a better gauge of how a non-critic will react to something since the score is based upon thousands of ratings from normal people, to be more accurate in setting my expectations (barring the irregularity of DBZs ridiculously high score, due to nostalgia and a legion of fanboys, and even then, Supers much lower score seems about right). Almost all cape movies are rated in the low 7s, there, which seems to be about right for something that's entertaining, but not amazing (there should not be as huge a difference between Thor or Iron Man 3 and Man of Steel as is represented by RT; .1 or .2 is something I can buy), and 8.2 or 8.3 is the cutoff mark for when you start getting into things that people tend to go wild about more unanimously, like the Flash show; most people will enjoy something with that rating. 8.8s to 9s, like Kenshin Tsuuiouken, which is considered a masterpiece, and Hunter x Hunter, are shows and movies that even the most jaded boards on 4chan pretty much never express contempt towards.
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>>80983781
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!

so it's good but not if you legitimately believed Man of Steel to be a cinematic masterpiece?

... or is there a movie called steel man I don't know about that isn't man of steel
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>>80983786
We got one in the end. And it sucked and was a poor Arkham clone.
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>>80983781
...So it's like a Marvel film...???
I dunno what he's sayin'
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>>80983781


WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN MEAN
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>>80983860
Wasn't made by Platinum tho, could have been fun.
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>>80983844
>demonstrated most blatantly by the Thor ones

second had 40%. You're full of shit m8
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>>80983848

No, the dude is saying the movie is pure shit for being to fantastical, that Man of Steel was a masterpiece and that Warner Bros fucked it up by rushing a Justice League movie to compete with Marvel's movies.
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>>80983705
>>80983407
>>80983608
>>80983652
>>80983638
>[Translated]
>Due to the pressure that meant watching all of the MCU movies destroy the worldwide box office, Warner Bros. decided it was time to face the competition and start its own series of interconnected movies.
>JUST that instead of making movies for each character that end in a joint feature, the studio preferred that the Man of Steel sequel introduced other DC Comcs superheroes such as Batman and Wonder Woman and also worked as a prequel to Justice League.
>[...] The first mistake of the movie is involving Geoff Johns, DC Comics creative director in the role of executive producer. It's evident that Warner Bros, due to the mixed reception to Man of Steel, recurred to him to make their film universe full of comic book sensibilities that satisfied the fans not happy with the Superman reboot. But by doing that, the studio didnt noticed that something that works in the comic book panels does not necessariliy works in live-action movies.
>BvS is full of narrative gratitude thought with the sole purpose of competing with Marvel. The characters exposition is lacking and the only interest is rapidly setting the ground to the eventual release of the first part of Justice League in 2017.
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>>80983559
Yeah? According to guys like >>80979891
It's because there's a massive conspiracy to blacklist Snyder from hollywood.

Anything to avoid admitting that MoS wasn't a 10/10 masterpiece, I guess
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>>80983781
>steel man
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>>80983885
Thor 2 had 66%. It was fresh, which made it obvious from that point on that it's impossible for an MCU movie to get anything other than that.
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>>80983895
>he characters exposition is lacking and the only interest is rapidly setting the ground to the eventual release of the first part of Justice League in 2017.

While I'm sure that this will get dismissed as biased or bullshit (maybe with a side of racism given its source) this DOES gel with leaks that the Knightmare stuff feels tacked on.

And to be frank TDKR mixed iwth Death of Superman in the second fucking movie? Hell yes this universe is rushed.
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>>80979891
Al Roker is a shill for the superhero lobby.
If you watch the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade you'll know he's in deep with Power Rangers and the Ninja Turtles
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>7.5/10
>11%

>I liked it, it was fun!!


What the fuck
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https://www.spreaker.com/user/4440820/the-john-campea-podcast-episode-8-batman

Here's a podcast review from John Campea.
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>>80979758
>guessing 90%
>putting 87% in your fake image

I'm guessing you don't know enough about math to understand what you did there, OP. Let's review.

Most movies on RT have no more than 400 reviews. That means that on 326 reviews this RT page is probably done. The number on the tomatometer cannot shift - only the audience scores can still go up or down. Since we both know you lifted this image from the Dark Knight Rises and for some reason changed the number of rotten reviews by 1 (adding that to the fresh count, for no reason), it's not important.

However that review you changed from bad to good for your speculative image here... it couldn't have made a difference to the score. At all. Because the mean average of all other scores was already 87%, that's (87*325) which will always give you 87.

Try it. 87*325=28,275

28,275+100=28,375

28,375/326=87.03.

The score would always be 87% because of the way that insignificant fractions are rounded off.

It's important you understand this because it comes into play very quickly; if your reviews have you on 87% 1/3 of the way through, you're unlikely to go higher again. This is because the average of those additional reviews you're going to receive is likely to be the same as those you have already received. The order in which they come may temporarily increase your score, but at 1/3 of your reviews you know how things are likely to end.

The other thing in play here is that as all scores technically start at 100, they all come down as the reviews come in, and the best reviews tend to come in first (because they mean lots of clicks for review sites). So if your best reviews put you on 87% at 1/3 of your total reviews and you have 200 reviews left to go, your final total is going to be much lower.

Next time you play dress up try and remember the rules.
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>>80983895
So its basically the same shit Marvel pulled with Age of Ultron, whole thing was just a fucking set up of Infinity Wars, with stupid ass exposition moments that make no sense
>WHY DIDNT YOU SAVE US TONY!!
That fucking scene foreshadowing the death of the avengers seems to be what they basically made in the Knightmare scene in this movie
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>>80983895
This is not even a review, it's a fanboy rant. Why is this guy even post in RT as critic when he's not?
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>>80983883
What games have Platinum made? I don't really pay attention to games outside the title
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>>80983842
Except it was extremely fucking good.
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>>80979859
I don't get how people didn't have fun with TFA. It was just a total ride from start to finish, had the pacing of the originals and cool shit happening. Don't really know what else people wanted from it.
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>>80983952
Holy shit this guy rated Dirty Grandpa 7.5/10
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>>80983980
Metal Gear Rising, Bayonetta, Transformers Devastation, that Legend of Korra game.
They all have very satisfying combat mechanics.
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>>80983303
>Nobody cares about X-Men Apocalypse.
I do.
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>>80979934
What would the RT rating be on the agreement of that? If 90% of /co/ gives RT a negative review does that mean that we're right or wrong since we dont like the review scheme.
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>>80983899
>Anything to avoid admitting that MoS wasn't a 10/10 masterpiece, I guess
MOS is my 2nd favorite movie and even I do not think it was a 10/10 masterpiece.
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>>80979758
Y'know, as a committed Marvel drone, I am actually kinda happy for DC. If WB genuinely didn't fuck this up, I'll go see it this weekend, and help shore up your box office.

Of course: I expect the worst. But please, pleasantly surprise me.
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THE GUY HATED THE MOVIE FOR NOT BEING AS REALISTIC AS MAN OF STEEL. HAHAHA! OH, MAN, DC JUST CAN'T WIN!
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>>80983303
>Nobody cares about X-Men Apocalypse.
I do...
Based Fassbender.
Based Issac.
Sexy as fuck Munn.
Epic looking Storm.
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>>80983995
Cool. yeah it would be cool to see what they could do with Cap game.
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>>80984030
2nd favorite movie ever? Jesus anon, watch more movies.
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>>80980308
>Not choosing your seats in advance. For your imax/Ultra AVX screening.
>being this pleb
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>>80984030
jesus
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>>80983980
Bayonetta Revengence wonderful 101

Those are some of the most well known,.

Started into licensed games with Korra and then Transformers and now Ninja Turtles each time broadening the expanse they played in.

They are very good at bottom masher combo fight games.
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>>80983009
>Mexican intellectuals
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>>80984067
Favorite, not best.
I have seen plenty of superior films, I just love and enjoy mos more then most of them.
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As someone who was optimistic until the stupid trailer with doomsday, and wanted to like the movie despite hating MoS, would I enjoy this?
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>>80984093
It depends on how much Batwank you can stomach. Because this movie has a lot of it.
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>>80984047
That is something I am concerned about also...
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mfw I am going to see this today and am wearing this shirt
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>>80984106
I guess the lesson we need to take from this is that BvS is worse than Zoolander 2.

Not that we should be surprised.
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>>80984047
Does this mean BvS is going to win over people who actually like capeshit?

Not a bad deal I'd say.
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>>80984047
Allcaps autism aside it does kind of make sense and roundabout the Doomsday trailer I started asking myself who this movie was for.

Because if you liked the tone of Man of Steel, you're probably not going to want the tone of the movie to change into something more "comic booky".
If you hated Man of Steel, you probably aren't going to bother at all and their attempts at winning back the crowd aren't going to matter.
Not to mention that even in the best case scenario (which this movie already isn't since it's burdened with setting up a franchise) doing the kind of tonal shift they're attempting is REALLY fucking hard. It's way easier to go light to dark than the opposite as they are.

But whatever. Marvelkeks DCkeks snyderfags suicide watch btfo it's happening, right?
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>>80983781
I'm guessing he's saying if you're going into this expecting something along the same lines as MoS, it won't be good but if you're there to see a good ol' slobber-knocker turn off your brain thing, basically the opposite of what MoS was doing, it'll be good
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>>80983848
Well i can see what he means, for example MoS-fags keep sucking Snyder's cock talking about how EPIC it was to have Kryptonians that could wreck cities just by passing by while us puny humans can do nothing but watch in awe, and here comes the sequel where the puny human gets one second away from killing the god
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>>80983664
>People making posts on the internet without properly understanding the context of the situation.
Not even surprised anymore. It's the same shit as people sharing random facebook images with some words attached to them and assume it's a true story. At least do minor research into anything before you share an opinion that silly.
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>>80984047
It makes sense though. Wasn't the entire thing behind defending MoS was how realistic and different in tone it was compared to other cape films? Assuming you were a fan of that and liked the movie staff, you would go into BvS expecting something like that, you know the way it's been promoted as a clash of ideals and generally more serious in the storytelling so if we're just getting apparently what looks like to be a fanboy wet dream, it might be considered disappointing
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>>80984213
Technically he goes past that one second. Batman creates the weapon that kills both Doomsday and Superman

Batman vs Superman. Batman wins. Just in a roundabout way.
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>>80983895

>The curious thing is that Snyder and Terrio have clearly decided that the tone is the key to differentiate the DCEU from the MCU but it's an intention that, along with Johns' comic perspective and choices, makes Batman v Superman an erratic product incapable of having a personality, let alone logic, in its narrative arcs.

>It's of no help its almost three hours long and the rythm that pretends to be paused to give exposition, if at the end each argumental peak is more fantastic than the previous one.

>Batman v Superman solves each conflict and knot with the most basic and imaginable lines of dialogue and pretendes that the audience accepts the plot evolving like that. It's impossible not to laugh to the rushed and absurd way in which the titular match ends

>While Man of Steel is a movie preoccupied with keeping itself in a realistic sci-fi, this sequel is permissive in every chance it has. It's a true shame, moreso considering that Superman is the center of different arcs that if developed correctly would be a great continuation of those in the movie the preceeds it.

>About the performance of the cast and the choices the production made for certain characters, we have divided opinions. [...]
Basically disliked Gal as WW due to ther body, liked Affleck but didnt think it was the best Batman "as the marketing campaign has made him out to be", was okay with Eisenberg.

>[...] Batman v Superman is a missed opportunity that will also divide the public. It surely be loved by those that only hope to see the most faithful comic book fantasy while those that apreciated the realistic tone of Man of Steel will find it as a complete disappointment.
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>>80983408
There's no hype. People want to see the movie, but the word is not hype, no one speculates, the hype will came after BvS when they start to focus on Spiderman, the trailers so far havnt shown anything to be hyped, no mistery, we already know the fights in the movie. Normies will get hyped by spiderman and when they see Zemo.
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>>80984145
But wasn't the thing that DC fans professed around regarding the DCEU was how intelligent and serious it would be? Capekino I believe it was called

Appealing to the people "who actually like capeshit" would be considered a downgrade
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>>80984238
>the trailers so far havnt shown anything to be hyped, no mistery, we already know the fights in the movie.
How does this not apply to BvS and X-Men Apocalypse for that matter?
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>>80983591
BINGO!
Man of Steel was a good movie, but I dont think anyone who really likes the movie doesn't understand the flaws it had that made people dislike it. Though I have no idea why people hate it. At the VERY least we got some unreal actions scenes that pushed the bar far higher than it was before for Superhero action.

But I like the movie as a whole so w.e
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>>80983895
>The first mistake of the movie is involving Geoff Johns ... to make their film universe full of comic book sensibilities
>this is somehow bad
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>>80979758
>Batman v Superman embargo lifts at 6pm EST
Was nice knowing you all. /co/ was a nice place.
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>>80984236
>>The curious thing is that Snyder and Terrio have clearly decided that the tone is the key to differentiate the DCEU from the MCU but it's an intention that, along with Johns' comic perspective and choices, makes Batman v Superman an erratic product incapable of having a personality, let alone logic, in its narrative arcs.
>>It's of no help its almost three hours long and the rythm that pretends to be paused to give exposition, if at the end each argumental peak is more fantastic than the previous one.
>>Batman v Superman solves each conflict and knot with the most basic and imaginable lines of dialogue and pretendes that the audience accepts the plot evolving like that. It's impossible not to laugh to the rushed and absurd way in which the titular match ends
These were essentially my complaints about Man of Steel.
So it turns out Snyder was the problem after all. Goyer? Terrio? doesn't matter!
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>>80983895
>>80983895
>involving Geoff Johns was a mistake
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>>80984230
Yeah, i know, i meant he would've killed him if he didn't stop at the last second when Superman conveniently spells out his mother's name instead of just going "i have to save mom"
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>>80984257
Geoff Johns is the ultimate plen writer tho
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53% critic
85% audience

calling it
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>>80984239
Anon, capeshit, capekino, casuals, autists, shills, drones, all these things are just words. The truth is that whatever you need to say to be right is what's the reality of that moment.
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>>80984227
MoS was your average capeshit with darker color and more destruction, that's all. Nothing about it is realistic.
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>>80984238
>there's no hype
>normies will get hyped because of Zemo
This is how I know you have no idea what you are talking about.
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>>80980180
>The good parts were clearly Wright

Yeah like everybody thought Pena´s story was written by Wright
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>>80984266
This place is gonna suck for about 6 straight months
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>>80983614
FUUUAARRRRKKKK

Friday I need it now.
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>>80984288
70+% Critic
80+% Average
90+% Audience
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>400 million production budget
>200 million advertising budget
>500 trillion shilling budget
>0% certified rotten


BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY
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>>80984254
I dislike MoS more because of the attitude of it's fans and director desu

>Truly only REAL Superman fans would understand my art
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>>80984236
Gadot looked fine. She was even taller than Batman in the suit
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>>80984299
Yes it was... the setting, the pessimism, the army not having laser guns or flying cars, people in dire situations not making jokes, the reality that good people that do good things still can be looked down upon by the piece of shit masses, Krypton felt like a real environment with its own culture and architecture unlike the Thor movies that look plastic and power rangers-ish.
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>>80984337
This.

I don't want to hate MoS. I just hate Snyder.
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>>80984273
To be fair we have to consider that Terrio mostly re-worked Goyer's original script/idea rather than coming up with his own stuff
But yeah, Snyder as a director is always gonna be an influence, from creative suggestions to actor direction he can influence the script
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>>80984299
Everyone was an asshole. That's supposedly "realistic".
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>>80984287
so perfect for the targeted audience?
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>>80984337
>>Truly only REAL Superman fans...
Except that is exactly what the haters say about those that like it.
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>>80983705
6/10 is a d-minus.

It's almost failing.
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>>80984381
Nothing asshole-ish about not being a naive idiot and being concerned with the ramifications of Clark's existence on the world.
And Lois was never ever ever assholish.
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>>80984306
it turned out that no
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>>80984106
In what frame of mind do you have to be to give Zoolander 2 an 8.5/10
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>>80984312
Six months? Autists are still flinging shit over the last movie from three years ago. And with WB's release schedule we're not even going to get that break anymore. BvS shitposting will continue well until Justice League comes out and the fact that they're set on keeping Snyder around and Snyder has said (just yesterday in fact) that he wants the universe to have a singular tone insures that we're NEVER GOING TO GET A BREAK FROM THIS SHIT.

Board's dead. Find a new place.
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>>80984390
One thing is fans having false expectations and another is a professional director calling his work "canonical" and all of his critics ignorants on the subject
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Man I'm going to be pissed if WB caves into critics and makes a fucking quip fest for JL. Will drop that shit asap.
>>
John Campea loves it

https://www.spreaker.com/user/4440820/the-john-campea-podcast-episode-8-batman
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>>80984376
Yeah, see that's what I thought, but whenever I tried pointing that out I was told "based terrio is doing a complete rewrite goyer's script got thrown out" so you know what? That's what I'm going to go with.

Especially because for all the groundswell he got Terrio only has ONE other movie to his name, in a different genre. I've never understood why everyone was putting all their hopes on a one hit wonder. He won an oscar? Every year we have the song and dance where we cry about the Oscars being a bunch of shit!
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>>80984106
oh, its a troll. Good
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>>80984444
>and another is a professional director calling his work "canonical" and all of his critics ignorants on the subject
But most movie critics genuinely don't read comics and only know Superman from the Reeves films.
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>>80984480
Terrio already said it's going to be more lighthearted
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>>80984418
Man I'm not doing this with you today. You haven't gotten any new lines in a year.
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>reviews from Spanish off shoots who gave Zoolander 2 8.5/10 are being counted
DC fans can't catch a break can they
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>>80984500
>The critics only hated the movie because it wasn't Reeves meme
People always say this but they can never point out a good handful of critics that imply such a thing
>But surely they meant that indirectly!
Be real for a second

>But most movie critics genuinely don't read comics
So you're actually arguing that MoS is the perfect Superman adaptation, that you need comics to appreciate it? As if both comics and movies don't offer multiple perspectives on the character costantly?
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>>80984500
Even assuming that's the case, the movie has flaws. But let's ignore that.
Hell, the scenes you guys argue over the most were done in the Reeves movie too. They just weren't done in a contrived melodramatic way that leaves the audience feeling hollow at the end.
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Rotten Tomatoes is a no-taste normie site now.
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>>80983596
Can Sublime Fusion be an epic new meme
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>>80984569
It really isn't hard to tell what these people were thinking, even if they didn't come right out and say it.
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>>80984501
Which feels good because it's an arc
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>>80984615
>now
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>>80984627
>It really isn't hard to tell what these people were thinking, even if they didn't come right out and say it.

Even as far as these threads go your head is especially far up your ass. We can all tell the only reason you liked the movie was "MUH ANGST" and "MUH REALISM"
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>>80984627
Hey, I made this picture! Nice to see I'm not the only one who was able to face the facts,
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>>80984712
Shut up Richard.
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>>80984627
>Same pic, same excuse

From an old post

>Mara Reinstein
>For starters, why overcomplicate an origins tale that has held up for 75 years? [...] Disconnected flashbacks lead Clark to his planet's Zod (Michael Shannon), who aims to destroy Earth with…secretly harvested DNA?! [...] Even the action feels labored, with the last hour devoted to people running from fireballs and getting thrown through walls - all by way of phony-looking CGI effects. Throughout the 143-minute opus, Clark is lectured about the importance of being a "force of good" in the world. Clearly, the filmmakers themselves weren't listening

>David Denby (this doesn't even criticize all that much, actually)
>I knew little about “Man of Steel” besides the scuttlebutt that it had lots of backstory, so I figured that the underlying issue would be Superman’s coming to moral maturity—and, watching the movie, I was delighted to catch a flagrant wink to my surmise in a scene that shows young Clark Kent sitting by a fence reading Plato [...] But the real story of the movie is collateral damage. The destruction wrought on Earth by the malicious Zod is one thing, but when the newly dubbed Superman stands up to his father’s killer and Earth’s ravager, each zooming chase through the air and each blow landed wreaks horrific destruction. [...] when forces that hold the world in the balance do battle, even the winners are losers.

>Richard Roeper
>This guy's review is a video. He calls the movie pretentious. Calls Cavill too stiff. The flashbacks are the most interesting parts of Superman's story. Snyder's seems too obsessed with showing off the Kryptonians' destructive power. Too many characters have too much to say about how humanity would react to Supes, shit is too heavy-handed. The movie is too joyless and there isn't enough character development to make us care. Effects are good

3 reviews of those posted, tell me where they go "muh Donner" instead of just talking about what they liked or not
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>>80983990
This is what a shill sounds like.
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>>80984500
>>80984627
>>80984764
You know, for as much as you guys love to whinge about how the Donner movie has irrevocably tainted the public's perception of the "real" Superman, I find it hilarious how much of the shit you praise in Man of Steel is stolen (poorly) from it.

For example Donner did that whole "when people find out about you it'll change everything" scene too. It just wasn't run through a grey filter and Clark had actual charisma there so I guess it was an entirely different scene.
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>>80983860
It was all right and it didn’t play anything like Arkham.
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>>80984239
People form arguments around their opinions, not the other way around. DCkeks are going to eat this shit up either way, it's probably better that they're actually enjoying capeshit and not some pretentious bullshit.
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>>80983995
Damn they should make another deal then, Cap game would be cool if done right.

Too bad Marvel is only doing mobile and app games.
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>>80984254
>At the VERY least we got some unreal actions scenes that pushed the bar far higher than it was before for Superhero action

Anime does it better for decades.

MoS action was nothing great. Only the Faora fight was really good. Zod fight was like two rabid apes with superpowers.
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>>80983786
>Fiege was in talks at some point with Platinum Games to make a Captain America game.

Nice, Cap'd be perfect for-

>Perlmutter was the one who wanted to avoid videogames entirely.

Cheap no-fun-having fuck.
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>>80984919
I think it's way past time we made the divide between Snyderfags and fans of DC. I like DC. Hell, I'm hype for Aquaman of all things. It's Snyder I hate.
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>>80981672
Only if you're pleb
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>>80985034
>Anime does it better for decades.
Hell, commercials for anime games do it surprisingly well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdatEFBG8FE
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>>80980541
>mfw I've said snydersheep twice ever and this anon thinks it's just one guy
Hack Snyder is a really common term too, its literally just changing one letter in his name

I fucking love how pathetic you are, anon, I feel like you do nothing but pour over any thread even tangentially related to WB
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>>80985058
This. This so much. Snyder takes great opportunities and churns out mediocrity. And for some reason he's incredibly arrogant. I'll never understand it.
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>>80979758
>/co/ is obsessed with reviews
>this movie will inevitably be between 60s to low 70s
>when this happens, almost every idiot itt will pretend they never cared about reviews
Like clockwork
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>>80984772
Wow, I'm not even like MoS but 2 out of 3 of these critic really don't get the story? Only the last guy seems to get it and point out the weakness of the film.

Honestly, this is one of the reason I can't took RT seriously anymore. They became IMDB-tier.
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>>80979758
Why appears just one review? why they don't release the rest?
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>>80985167
it will get a 65 and we'll bitch about how it should have gotten a higher score. but deep down we'll know that the rating is about right and cry ourselves to sleep at night about it.
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>>80984238
zemo doesn't do shit though, marvel came out and said that

if you think you're getting some well hidden 3rd act that has yet to be revealed...
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>>80985190
He bypassed the embargo. He'll probably get sued or something for it. All reviews come out at 6pm.
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>>80985190
because the ass broke embargo
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>>80985221
Of course Zemo will do something, the Russos merely said the final act won't feature the two conflicting teams getting along to beat the bad guy
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>>80985190
I hope he will perish.
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>>80985202
two things will happen:

1) It'll get a low-ish score (50-70) and /co/ will lambast critics for being out of touch no-fun-allowed contrarians

or

2) It'll get a decent score (above 80), /co/ will love it for the first week, then it'll be overrated

rinse and repeat for Civil War
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>>80984764
>implying mos wasn't a monotone, boring movie
sorry this doesn't fit the narrative in your head
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>>80985346
You realize it's just because shitposters enjoy shitposting for a lot longer than fans enjoy raving about something, right?
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I hated Man of Steel but despite everything I'm still pretty hyped for this.
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>>80985346
no, /co/ is going to roll out the red carpet for civil war. then dc fans like me get shit on because rotten tomatoes will give them a better score and get them a higher gross. it's a rigged system people. fuck this gay earth.
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>>80985357
>if he had given it 6.5 instead of 6 we'd have 100% fresh right now
What a shitty system
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>>80985305

>"He’s under the cloak of secrecy," Feige teases. "There are a lot of amazing actors in this movie. Some of them play larger roles than others. And in some cases there are some you will meet ever so briefly in this film and then will be expanded upon in future films. He falls into that latter category.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/captain_america/captain_america_civil_war/intriguing-new-details-about-baron-zemo-a127616

Probably for Black Panther or another movie.
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>>80985421
WB fucking owns RT.

Don't blame "the system" for your shit taste.
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>>80985255
How can be sued? this kind of things are taken seriously? it's just matter of hours
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>>80985421
I don't think it's rigged. I just think critics think capes shouldnt take themselves seriously, so they will always punish them when they do and overlook other flaws in less serious ones.
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>>80985421
Being a DC fan doesn't mean you have to suck Snyder's dick, man.

Also
>it's a rigged system people
>WB owns RT
>WB rigs the system against itself.
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>>80985421
I legitimately want a good film for the DC universe. I enjoy watching great movies about comics. I don't expect one at all from Snyder/Goyer.
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>>80985357
Backtracking? This is a different guy, the spanish reviewer is named Uriel Barco and i'm still seeing the original comment. In fact i'm only seeing Barco's review, is this fake?

>>80985455
Oh, i see. Interesting though, the movie is gonna be 100% heroes vs heroes then?
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>>80985478
There are two men. On a dare, they both agree to jump out of a window. They get to choose what floor the window is on. One man jumps a window on the first floor. The other man jumps out a window on the 30th floor. Which man is dumber?
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>>80985357
>rotten
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do you seriously think marvel fans don't want to see a good Batman v Superman movie
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>>80979792
I'll say between 65 and 75%. Better than MoS, praised by women simply because WW is in it, and ultimately considered a tad too dark and violent for young children which will be followed by multiple slant site stories talking about how violent the (male) comic media is and they should embrace a softer side of things. Meanwhile they continue to praise Jessica Jones as being so brave and edgy.
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>>80985515
You can be better than Man of Steel and still be rotten. That's a very low bar.
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>>80985540
Yes. It's pathetic.
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>>80985514
What the fuck are you trying to say?
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The critics marks it as rotten or fresh. There's a few sub 60% Man of Steel marked as fresh and a few over rated fresh.

>critic breaks embargo, I wonder what will get him more clicks, a negative or a positive review?
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DC has just cancelled BvS premiere in London because of attacks in Brusells.

but, we all know which Mexican Reviewer caused it
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>>80985506
Which makes me wonder why people keep going back to him. All his stuff is either Sub Par to barely passable. Is he still just riding the 300 wave and his association with other Hollywood Elites?
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>>80979758
>two rotten scores so far

oh shit /co/ is gonna go beserk. why do we keep believing in these pre-release twitter hype comments? every fucking movie has them. I remember before The Last Airbender people on twitter were praising it, saying a screening got a standing ovation.
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>>80985547
Your perceptions sure are.
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>>80985567
Source?
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>>80985577
people actually believed all that shit?
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>>80979859
>A disappointing movie that got way too high of a score.
Yep. Simply because of nostalgia and "so brave" with a woman (with no flaws) and a black man (who gets little character development.)
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>>80985515
>>80985546
I think that pic's fake, the font is wrong and it's not showing up for me

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice/reviews/
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>>80985567
Fucking Muslims. Ruin everything.
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That's how it starts. The denial. The skepticism. The feeling of dread that turns hype into butthurt.
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>>80985485
>Being a DC fan doesn't mean you have to suck Snyder's dick, man.
Holy fucking shit, this

I hate the fact that he's running things, he's a fucking hack. A cinematographer that should have never been promoted to director.

And the retards on /co/ go around like it's either him or you're a Marvel shill.

It should have been Doug Liman or Edward Zwick. Someone that knows how to handle large scale action but understand how to work with actors, not just green screens.
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>>80985594
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/batman-v-superman-london-premiere-877323

The showing will continue accordinly, but the red carpet is cancelled.
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>>80985577

Marvelfaggotry really needs to be routed
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>>80985638
Liman is doing "Gambit". I'm pretty hyped.
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>>80985638
A lot of us loved Man of Steel for the exact reasons you hated it. It's a polarizing film.
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>>80985638
>green screen
Literally every set piece ive seen has been on location using as much practical effects as possible
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>>80985571
I think WB is really anxious about this. If they fire their "visionary" for how things are to be then it'll look really bad for the rest of what they roll out.
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>>80985656
dude, I dislike most marvel movies. I think most of them are generic without a hint of individual artistic expression. /co/ jerked itself off over Ant-Man but it was such a paint-by-the-numbers movie.
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>>80985553
You're acting like this is a capes thing when it's true for everything. If you try to play at a higher level, the judges in your competition are going to be harsher. The world cup is going to have sharper eyed judges than pee wee soccer. The Michelin star committee isn't going to worry about your local greasy spoon. Oscar bait is going to get a much harsher critical eye turned to it than Paul Blart. This is to be expected and it's not a bad thing.

Man of Steel took itself itself seriously. It's not being "punished". It's being judged at a higher level *like it asked for* and was found wanting. It jumped off the 30th floor knowing that it was a much longer way down, and you're getting angry that it went splat.

It's pathetic how you guys go on and on about how the movie was epic and thought provoking but if someone's thoughts skew towards anything other than "I love it" you lose your fucking mind.
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>>80985638
It's silly but I kind of want to see a Wachowski cape movie. Speed Racer was on TV the other day and it's what I'd imagine an acid trip to be like.
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>>80985638
I feel you, I like both Marvel and DC.
It's annoying criticize Snyder and be called a shill, he's a snake oil sales man.
/co/ and WB just keeps buying his shit
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>>80985679
are we really going to start rooting for comic book movies to be reviewed poorly? Company wars are no different from Console wars. I read almost way more Marvel than DC but I want this movie to be awesome because I love Batman and Superman.
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>>80985751
Fuck you too, senpai
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This movie will probably be passable, but I doubt it will be amazing. It just seems like there's too much shit crammed in.
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>>80985725

I wasn't talking about you specifically, just the reviewers. Marvelfaggoty has become an ideology like any other and it needs to be stamped out.
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>>80985772
pretty sure /co/ has been rooting for this to do poorly since it was announced
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2critic review at RT that don't point out how it was bad. C'mon, explain it a bit about the fucking movie not about your own taste or thing about John, goddamn.

Where are those competent critic that can explain things when you need them? Fuck
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>>80985715
If they do it, and it's a big if, they won't do it for a year or two yet. They've gotta wait until the DVD sales are stabilized before saying "We're getting rid of our leading creative influence"

And I doubt they'd even do that. Why would they? They're not going to lose the rights to DC characters. The movies will still make *some* money. And there's too many gears already turning to get rid of Snyder now without making an even bigger mess of things.
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>>80985804
>that don't point out how it was bad.
At least one of them did but we're already sticking our heads in the sand I see.
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>>80985734
The idea that drama is a higher artform than other genres is laughable though.
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>>80985772
whatever reason it's retarded

They won't reboot into something more light hearted or without Zack Snyder, at least not for another 10 years. Look at GL, they're afraid to even touch until 2020 or put him as a founding member.

Worse yet this will just reinforce them to make only Batman films from now on, or put less value in the dc brands and scale those back, maybe even shuttering the comics, but it's not like /co/ cares about those either.
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>>80985734
nah

the level is "big budget movie", that's what separates levels for movies


the idea that seriousness somehow is a higher level than more campy stuff is utterly immature and pseudointellectual
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>>80985577
don't forget the bacon suit
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>>80985838
How? Exactly, I want to know something like the plot how it is bad, the pacing, how shit it is. The acting, who can, who can't. Talking about John give nothing.
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>>80985843
There's levels within genres, man.
For example, let's look at science fiction. There's hard scifi, which relies heavily on scientific accuracy and plausibility and research, and soft scifi, which goes "fuck it it's magic".
Both can be awesome. Both can suck.
But if you tout yourself as a hard scifi movie, and your scientific accuracy doesn't check out, then you've failed at what you set out to do. It fails as a hard scifi movie.

Man of Steel introduces a lot of heady themes but many people feel they didn't deliver on those themes. That the performances and dialogue were of a level that didn't serve its intentions. In short, that its reach exceeded its grasp.

So yes, Man of Steel should be praised for its attempt, but that doesn't grant it immunity from criticism for failing to make good on that attempt.
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>>80983608
this guy dont even have a profile picture.WTF
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>>80984300
Exactly. Not to mention Zemo is introduced in Civil War. Setup for a later film
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>>80985873
Terrio already said JL is going to be more lighthearted tho
I think that, again, if BvS is the way it is it's because the movie is still based on Goyer's material
Hell, in some way the death of Superman could already be seen as a "reboot": Superman makes the ultimate sacrifice and dies, dissipating the negative feel that people were left with after MoS, and by the time he comes back his presence will be more cherished, supposedly
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which will have the higher rating come Monday?
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>>80985916
No you don't. You don't want to hear any of it. You don't want any of it explained to you. You're not open to the idea that any of this stuff could be sub par.

People will spend the next year explaining stuff to you, and you'll just go "I don't get why that's a problem! Stop being biased" ad nauseum.
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>>80985970
There's no need for a reboot. What is wrong with everybody? Snyder has done a perfect job. MoS was top-tier. I don't understand why people are for pushing him out or for doing a reboot. Everything's great. Stop overreacting to criticism.
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>>80985979
You just summed up this whole thread, anon.
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>>80985970
I'm fine with a lighter tone, but I doubt Terrio meant quips every 10 seconds & impotent villains. which critics seem to love.
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>>80986013
Getting rid of a director and rethinking priorities for future installments doesn't imply rebooting, you're the one overreacting
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>>80985772
I like Batman and Superman but I don't want Snyder near them at all
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>>80985979
What the fuck so you took me as Snyderfags? Lol, Nope, Sorry, I'm not. When they said it's bad, I want to know how so that if it is indeed terrible, I will not go waste my time to see it.
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>>80986013
>Snyder has done a perfect job. MoS was top-tier.
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>>80986103
Oh man, you said snyderfag

Now the 1.jpeg shill is gonna show up!
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>>80986013
>This entire post
Come on
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>>80986073
Then don't watch the fucking movie. I'm so tired of you picky motherfuckers whining about how Snyder isn't good enough for you when he makes excellent films and has done a great job with the franchise. Oh well. You'll spend your money at the theater either way.
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>>80986013
Uncanny valley of bait right here.
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I hope the snyderfags around here love seeing this image
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>>80985465
Yes they're taken very seriously.
They let people see the movie early and give everyone the chance to have finished reviews at the same time and in exchange have a legally binding contract to not talk until the embargo date.
This guy will be lucky to only be blacklisted by literally every single studio and never allowed early access to anything again. Worst case scenario, he looses everything as WB just drowns his ass in legal fees and he has no defense because he flat out fucked up in front of everyone.
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>>80986126
>>80986175
>op says 1.jpg
holy shit, why doesn't he just use that as an actual trip
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>>80986013
>>80986155
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>>80986103
Because this thread is on its last legs, I'll entertain you with an an example. The review says:
> The characters exposition is lacking and the only interest is rapidly setting the ground to the eventual release of the first part of Justice League in 2017.

See, if this were Iron Man 2, or Age of Ultron, or a couple other Marvel movies, you'd get and accept the idea that "maybe devoting too much of your movie to setting up the sequel at the cost of the current movie is a bad thing" immediately. But because BASED SNYDER is doing it suddenly you're going to go "What? Why is that bad? I don't get it! Someone explain or they're biased!"

And I know you're going to do this because Man of Steel had the exact same problem where half its issues was dismissed as "The sequel will take care of it! What's the problem!" rather than admit that it failed to deliver a complete narrative.
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>>80986234
Pretty much, in another thread i saw a similar post pointing out that Flash/Knightmare was a bit pointless and someone replied "why? It's a good way to show how evil Superman could be"

Or like when once i complained about the messy timeline of the X-men movies and that DoFP didn't really fix as much as it made it irrelevant to force a continuity and then someone responded "what's wrong, messy timelines are a staple of the X-men stories!"
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>>80985772
>are we really going to start rooting for comic book movies to be reviewed poorly?
Only occasionally.
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How about we all just watch the movie ourselves and then form our own opinion?
Wouldn't that be easier than all of the stupid arguments over a movie we haven't even seen yet?
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>>80986175
you realize this is just some faggot playing both sides right

I haven't met any Snyderfans that think critics like him.
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>>80986234
So, I took it that this shit is just MoS 2.0? Might as well save my money for Cap:CW at this point, urg.
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Bat of murder will murder this movie score

3%, rotten
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>>80985679
DELETE THIS
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I'm trying to translate the second review out of curiosity

>We have good and bad news in this line. How about if we start with the benevolent? Zack Snyder delivers an epic superhero whose result is much better than the fateful Man Of Steel ( Man of Steel ) trying to expose the progressive antagonism between the Murcielago Gotham City (Ben Affleck) and the last Son of Krypton (Henry Cavill) which it seems born of the inconclusive battle sequences and destruction seen in the last tape Snyder. The writers used the strident (and trivial) outcome to suggest the point of view of Batman with respect to the devastation of the city and those responsible for this. Who is that man in the sky can generate such chaos?

>As reported, Snyder appropriated some basics of the graphic novel The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller to create this film but in the end is a personal version of the contest between these two superheroes with the characteristic style that has differentiated the director on his films and which has polarized opinions.

>Of course the battle scenes abound and devastation also peculiar tempo singles Snyder (a sleepy first hour, an hour and a half remaining crowded) but towards the end you can perceive a chaotic but suggestive film. This section also merita mention the presence of Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman - enigmatic character which we know little but who joins the final battle with our protagonists in comfort - and Jeremy Irons as Alfred, the faithful steward Bruce Wayne in a different approach to what we are used to seeing with this character.

>Now, let the miscues. It gives the impression that studio executives were concerned about the possibility of making this film at the point of throwing all the cinematic universe of DC Comics ahead. There is a constant feeling that the audience should be receiving essential communication which upcoming storylines so crowded reference tape warns will arise.
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>>80986416
Actually I think what you can take from this review is that if you disliked the tone of Man of Steel, this one is more of a generic "comic book" movie and might be more to your tastes.

But if your problems with Man of Steel ran deeper and were more about the hackneyed dialogue, actors slumming it or abysmal pacing, that was devoted to set up rather than delivery, then it's more of the same.

So I guess the question is "what did you dislike about Man of Steel 1.0"

I'm skipping it myself, since I already know Superman dies.
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>>80986552
Cont.

>Ben Affleck is also an uncertain election. It is not news the wave of criticism that led to the selection of the actor in social networks so we reported that these were not entirely ill - founded. His approach lacks precision and a contudente identity. Even worse is the intervention of Jesse Eisenberg as the villain Lex Luthor in a performance totally out of tune with the proposals of the director and the rest of the cast. This is a drawback if we consider that is the only real antagonist of the plot.

>At the end Batman v Superman: Dawn Of Justice results in a jarring experience of two hours and a half. There are successes but also mistakes, but I warn you that is superior to that fateful film called The Man Of Steel .

I've read of leakers saying Batfleck was kind of too single-minded to really shine as a character, but it's the first time i see someone complaining about the performance itself
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>>80986598
>>80986552

That's actually a pretty well thought-out and decent review. Thanks anon.
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>>80986964
RT doesn't load stuff at the same time for everyone, it took me half an hour to see the second review after it was mentioned in this thread
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>>80987064
No, the second review was removed.
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>>80987086
I'm still seeing both of them
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>>80987064
I saw 2 reviews at first but 1 is removed it seems.
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>>80987103
Removed as in it's no longer deemed a valid review.
Both are up. But only one of them is counted.
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>>80987086
No it wasn't
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>>80987180
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>>80985607
Refresh, both reviews show up, but for some reason RT is only counting 1 so far
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>>80987275
Second review was removed for some reason
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