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MCU Creel = Redeemed.
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>>80825064
i wanna see titania
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>>80825064
Can he not absorb energy in the MCU? That's twice he jobbed to electricity.
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Thunderbolts episode when? Creel is fucking great on this show.
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>>80825381
>Creel is fucking great on this show.

is that the SHIELD show?
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>>80825370
Nop, he absorbed rubber and actually resisted Lincoln.

It was May whom he jobbed to this time.
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>>80825370
Hen probably hasn't figured out how yet, Creel was never the sharpest knife in the drawer
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>>80825401
Yes. And he was actually pretty cool in the last episode.
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>>80825402
Not really, May just had him absorb metal and become a conduct for Elctro-boy, Lin is the guy who took him down again.
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>>80825064
I was hoping to see him actually do some boxing but he was still breddy gud
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Would it be asking too much for Creel to show up in Daredevil?
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>>80825327
I'd be cool.

Powered woman fucking shit up, Creel goes after her, they fight but then make out and ride off in the sunset together.

We'd have the MCU's first successful villain romance.
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>>80825510
Spam their twitter and the actor.

He could show up in the Defenders. Since they need higher stake villains than ninjas and autists.
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>>80825510
When I saw the poster Battling Jack vs Crusher Creel I had my hopes, I still do, I really hope he shows up
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There's a good chance Creel will be a regular/reoccurring for next season and be in several more episodes this season. Creel is General Talbot's personal body guard now.
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>>80825064
But can he beat the cock?
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>>80825641
>>80825513

i hope he gets an arc where evil pussy corrupts him
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>>80825840
It's still a Mutant Enemy show, it's a rule that something really good happening will always have bad consequences. Daisy banged Lincoln last episode, something bad is bound to happen to those two soon.
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>>80825510
daredevil isnt canon
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>>80826697
it is

all the netflix shows are/will be
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>>80825064
Of course he is. They need him to replace Stonewall on the Secret Warriors. They already have him so it would be pointless to introduce someone with pretty much the same powers. Especially since Yo Yo already has a love interest anyway and since Stonewall couldn't believably be older than like 19, because of Creel's age.
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>>80825510
There was a reference to him in season 1. Crusher Creel was the boxer Jack Murdock beat before being killed.
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>>80827754
Given how they referred to Crusher as "young" in daredevil, and he's in his mid 30s now, it's quite likely it's the same guy.
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I know it's too much to ever hope for, but I'd freaking love a power creep for Creel. I mean he was a classic Thor villain and last time I saw him in action he duked it out with adamantium Sentinels, Apocalypse and Reverse-hulk as well as Hammerless Thor.

I'd at least welcome Hive being unable to do shit to him, to draw some kind of balance (that's a basis for Marvel powerlevels) between what can science wring and ayy lmaos.
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>>80825064
Creel's back? Sheeeeeeit, I've gotta get caught up on S3.
What about Graviton, he showed up yet?
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>>80825064
he is basically the anti-venom for the inhumans now.
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>>80826697
But AoS is? You guys really need to accept that none of the TV shows are ever going to be mentioned in the movies. Sure, AoS may take its cues from them but the relationship is only in one direction.
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So Phobos, Druid and Hellfire are all mystical

Will AoS introduce them too?
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>>80825370
>MCU
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>>80825513
Can't wait for Spider-Man to traumatize her
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>>80831900
Can't wait
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Yeah but can we talk about how Gladiator showed up in Daredevil and he had Stiltman legs in his garage?

Could have a nice little villain team to put together here.
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>>80831976
Do not bully Titania.
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>>80832096
wonderful
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>>80825370
>MCU

Agents of SHIELD is separate canon. Something like MAOUU
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>>80832530

you fags need to realize the TV shows are canon just because fucking captain america doesn't make a quip about ward or whoever doesn't make it non-canon
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>>80832530
>Agents of SHIELD is separate canon. Something like MAOUU

Go away Whedon.
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>>80832530
oh fuck off
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>>80825064
>Wasting one of the most visually cool Avengers villains on fucking SHIELD
>ywn have an opening to an Avengers movie of the Avengers taking down Creel and Titania
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>>80832530

fuck off with this shit already
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>>80832530
>MAOUU

Marvel Age of Ultron Universe?
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>>80827971
Loeb confirmed it was.
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>>80830799
I am 80%positive that anon you quoted was trolling.

Let's talk frankly, now AoS and Agent Carter basically have an EU status, right now (I mean, EU the way it was before Disney). It's only canon as long as it doesn't contradict the movies and the movie will never acknowledged it.

Netflix show have more or less the same satus, nbut I have the feeling Netflix show might be closer to being aknowledged by the movies than AoS and Agent Carter.
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>>80832653
>wanting quipping Creel and Titania
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>Absorbing Man is the most noteworthy comics character to have appeared on the show
Agents of Z-List
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>>80833051
Creel always brought the bants anon.
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>>80833086
Agents of Not-Canon.
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>Gravitron
>Absorbing Man
>Angar the Screamer
>that Deathbolt dude
Who else
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>>80833051
Are you implying that AoS isn't full of quips?

The show's biggest problem is that it's a shitty attempt to ape Joss's writing style. The constant attempts at being "clever" and self-aware drove me off the series.
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>>80833086
>shitting on the fact that Marvel is putting basically unknown characters onscreen in a place where they won't be overshadowed by the big players
You're a little bitch.
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>>80833112
Tell me why it's not
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Creel is one of the few things on this show I like. Also he fought Matt's dad
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>>80833139
Not him but, its canon, just not implemented well. The canon runs one way, meaning the movies override anything the show does and AoS are left in the dark more often than not. It could be regarded as a separate entity given the fish pill thing
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>>80833135
>Are you implying that AoS isn't full of quips
No, but you know for a fact that had Creel and Titaina been in the movie every sentence out of their mouth would have been a quip
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>>80825064
>Agents of SHIELD
>MCU

Kek.
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>>80833202
Literally 2 out of 12 (soon to be 13) movies have been written by Joss Whedon.
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>>80833120
Lorelei
Hive
Daniel Whitehall
Mr. Hyde
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>>80825064
>They actually did the ball and chain
When I saw the episode I thought it was cool that he was there but I was a bit bummed out because I thought they werent going to give it to him. BUT THEY DID IT, THE ABSOLUTE MADMEN
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>>80833051
>Agents of SHIT isn't Quip The Series
>Not wanting at least a cinematic fight sequence to go with it as opposed to a tv budget with no Avengers or Titania

You feeling ok, Anon?
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>>80825064
Why is she so perfect, lads?
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>>80833219
This. AoS is like a separate Earth. Very similar Earth, but people need to stop thinking it's connected to the movies. Maybe movies from a different Earth of our own, if you know what I am saying.
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>>80833252
And which movies were? The Avengers ones? The ones that this anon >>80832653 was talking about?
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>>80826697
>>80832530
Are y'all high? All the Marvel studios live action stuff is canon

Where the fuck do you expect they'll pull all the 67 people for Infinity War from?

>>80831564
I expect we'll probably get Druid and Hellfire but probably not until after Doctor Strange, so next season. Maybe Phobos but not same origin
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>>80833277
Why is my memory so shit
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>>80833301

Fuck off it's canon stop with your stupid tumblr tier headcanon shit
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>>80831564
Well, Phobos can ostensibly be introduced as being as magic as MCU Thor and co.

Just without the years of his dad being a villain and Hercules being an Avenger.
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>>80833308
He's not writing the future ones, and even then I'd take Joss' quips over shit like this.
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>>80833301
are you retarded?
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>>80832595
>That shit Jed writes? Forget about it
What an asshole thing to do to your brother.
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>>80833314
>Where the fuck do you expect they'll pull all the 67 people for Infinity War from?
I doubt any of the TV character will appear in Infinity War. Maybe the Netflix ones (though probably not), but there's no chance in Hel the movies will ever acknowledge AoS.
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>>80833298
superior genes and a winning personality
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>>80833392
>in Hel
Please die
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>>80833400
>womanlet
>superiour genes

well memed
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>>80833391
Because that's totally what he said, right?

Fuck off.
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>>80833412
There are literally no downsides for a woman to be short. Fuck SJW bullshit, men and women are not equal, we even have different skeleton structure, we are different to the bone.
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>>80833430
that's the general jist of what you said Joss
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>>80833391
Jed's been riding his coattals for like 20 years now. You'd think the nigga would do his own thing eventually
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>>80833449
He said that he wasn't going to acknowledge Coulson being alive in AoU because it would confuse viewers who hadn't seen AoS (AKA almost all of them). That's literally it.
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>>80833495
If you say so man, I'm not judging you
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>>80833392
>All the Avengers references in Jessica Jones
>Anon wholeheartedly believes they aren't canon in MCU

Fucking retard
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>>80833277
That Inhuman from the Yo-Yo episode was Gorgon right?
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>>80833392
You sound just like the people that parroted Spider-Man would "never be in a MCU movie"
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>>80833392
You have to be trolling.

Literally nothing supports that theory other than one avenger movie director saying Phil is still dead as far as he's concerned.

The shows themselves seem to contradict everything you're saying. Especially the Netflix ones.
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>>80833017

Except Peggy Carter and Howard Stark were in both Captain America and Ant-Man. It's like the ancient Hawaiians once said, "Don't judge the coconut until you've had the milk". Re-watch all the MCU movies and then get back to me, little kahuna.
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>>80833587
The references only go one way. Shows reference the movies, but never the other way around.

It's due to both the differences in production schedules, the two departments being run by different people, and most importantly: The people who watch the shows have almost certainly seen the movies, but the vast majority of people who watch the movies don't watch the shows.
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>>80833412
Is this a new ebin maymay?
I wish /fit/ was never born
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>>80833513
It's not "If I say so", it's what Joss said.

Or are you that faggot who complains about how he said something that you never actually read or heard him say?
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>>80833609
The difference is that Marvel had a major incentive to put Spidey in a movie. Spidey is easily their most popular character and will put tens of millions of asses in seats.

They have pretty much zero incentive to bring in the TV stuff.
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>>80833649
I suppose. For now.

There's no reason to mention these street level heroes at the calibre the Avengers are fighting. It doesn't mean they won't be used in the Infinity War. All it takes is Nick Fury appearing in one of their fucking episodes and a bit of marketing to get everyone up in arms and on board.

You guys make it seem like a way bigger deal than it actually is.
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>>80833673
Chillout dude whatever you say
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>>80833673
He's saying you're Joss in a joking manner you fucking brick
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>>80833705
Saying the tv shows aren't canon is an easy way troll
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>>80833622
Have you been paying attention to the behind-the scenes-stuff?

See:
>>80833649

And it's getting increasingly unlikely now that Marvel Studios has been separated from Marvel themselves, and so now the shows and movies are being made by totally separated groups of people. Add to that Feige and Perlmutter's feud and the chance of TV stuff appearing in movies in zilch.
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>>80833698
Except for the fact that they have to fill in literally dozens of slots for heroes and villains in the Infinity War.

Why do you honestly believe they'll go out of their way to not use the Netflix Marvel heroes? I want some actual logic behind your answer.
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>>80833747
I thought I was on /co/ not fucking /tv/
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>>80833625
What does that have to do with anything?

Both of those characters appeared in the movies first. That's like claiming that Nick Fury being in AoU is an AoS reference.
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>>80833755
>People haven't seen the TV shows so we won't use those already established heroes with a fanbase regardless of how miniscule it is

>Instead, we'll create about 30 heroes out of thin air and just dump them in the Infinity War. Now THAT'S good story telling

Great.
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>>80833756
>Why do you honestly believe they'll go out of their way to not use the Netflix Marvel heroes? I want some actual logic behind your answer.
It's not "going out of their way". It would be going out of their way to get them.

The movie is crowded as fuck as is, and there are many reasons why the movies don't use stuff from the shows:
>>80833649
>>80833755
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>>80833705
>There's no reason to mention these street level heroes at the calibre the Avengers are fighting. It doesn't mean they won't be used in the Infinity War.
That seems like backwards logic. In Infinity War, where the scale is even farther beyond street level, there'd be even LESS reason to mention guys like Daredevil.
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i wish AoS would finally drop the Inhuman shit
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>>80833814
Who says they'll introduce new heroes at all?

They've already got a massive fucking cast, far bigger than anything attempted before.
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>>80833853
why?
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>>80833817
The only thing I see being repeated over and over is "they're made by separate people" which is hardly an issue.

The fact that the shows are trying hard (and succeeding) at not contradicting the movies makes it easy enough.
How would plucking Jessica and Daredevil for one movie be more of a hassle than finding OTHER, less iconic heroes to squeeze into the movie and establish their spots in the MCU?
The fact that these are street heroes makes it all the easier.

I definitely don't see how it's "out of their way" to use these characters. I can't see any issues other than

>B-B-but the normies don't watch the Netflix shows!
Even if that were true, Nick Fury showing up on Daredevil would be a clip that filled everybody's Facebook timeline the very next day. The marketing for it would more or less take care of itself
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>>80830411
>What about Graviton, he showed up yet?
Graviton is an end-game class villain, so not yet. There will be a huge arc when he comes back... and the show will probably be ending. Rich guy who stole the gravitonium with Graviton in it hasn't popped up since season 1. We don't know what he's been up to since, HYDRA happened.
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>>80833848
Who knows what they would add. Daredevil would kick Hawkeye's ass that's for sure.

Isn't new Peter being introduced as just a street hero?
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>>80833625
>Except Peggy Carter and Howard Stark were in both Captain America and Ant-Man.
And Nick Furry was in Shield.
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>>80833914
>The only thing I see being repeated over and over is "they're made by separate people" which is hardly an issue.
"Separate people who's bosses hate each other" is a big one.

The show's follow the movies because being in the MCU is their biggest selling point. But the movies don't get any change in attention for acknowledging the shows - They'd be pretty much just giving the TV guys free advertising, and since Feige fucking hates Perlmutter he doesn't wanna do that.
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>>80833898
it's way too much like x-men, has no connection to the other MCU movies/shows, at least in s1 they were somehow connected and it actually felt like a Marvel show

now they have tons of characters and it's not easy to care for them because they mostly get characterized nowadays how they feel about the Inhumans
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>>80833928
>Daredevil would kick Hawkeye's ass that's for sure.
That seems like a stretch. Daredevil gets his ass handed to him by regular thugs every episode. His underpoweredness and struggle was a big draw for the series.

Spider-Man has powers that can easily compete with the Avengers. Daredevil would have trouble fighting Black Widow.
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>>80833017
cannon is cannon m8 as long as the shows don't fuck with the movies they all take place in the same universe
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>Hulk
>Black Widow
>Thor
>Scarlet Witch
>Iron Man
>War Machine
>A Captain America
>Hawkeye
>The Vison
>Falcon
>Spider-Man
>Ant-Man and The Wasp
>Daredevil
>Luke Cage
>Doctor Strange
>""""""""Secret Warriors""""""""
>Black Panther
>Iron Fist
>Captain Marvel
>The Ooga Chakas
>The Nova Corps?
How can Thanos even compete?
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>>80831564
Phobos would need his father, Ares, to be introduced so Phobos can be the "God of Fear". They might give the less popular Greek Gods to AoS rather than make a movie any time soon.

Druid is magic and I wouldn't expect it before Doctor Strange is done.

Lincoln is the stand-in for Hellfire. Hellfire's past connects back to the Ghost Rider series (fun note, the "Caretaker" in Ghost Rider is based on the Phantom Rider that Hellfire was the grandson of.)

Yo Yo's father, the Griffin, has been mentioned before but they didn't reveal in the episode the two were connected. They might not be anymore.

Crusher Creel is likely to take the place of his son who was on the real Secret Warriors team. They redeemed him. One day they might have him meet Titania and go evil again, so maybe the comics will finally reform Absorbing Man. Crazy things like that happen all the time like Lang's daughter Cassie coming back from the dead and becoming a super villain now.
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>>80833649
>>80833017
I wonder if coulson remark to the president Elis asking to go unnoticed "You'll just keep pretending we don't exist?"

Is a meta comment on the status of the show.
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>>80834085
He's got a glove that can do literally anything.

A better question is how do you have a six-hour story where the villain is the only character with any agency?
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>>80833298
>hot plus a true super nerd
I love that woman.
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>>80834139
>He's got a glove that can do literally anything
Oh yeah, that
>how do you have a six-hour story where the villain is the only character with any agency?
Wing it
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>>80833625
And NONE of what the shows have created will be referenced by any further movies = non-canon. Dumb ass tripfag.
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>>80833314
>Where the fuck do you expect they'll pull all the 67 people for Infinity War from?
Think about everyone you've seen so far in the movies. They all count towards that cap. It's not just the Avengers and co, it's Fury, random SHIELD agent from TWS/AoU, Agent 13, etc. All the minors count towards that character cap.
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>>80834178
What about the Hellicarrier at the end of AoU? Or Fury using that thing that Fitz made? Or that time Coulson found a HYDRA base and gave the info to Hill, who gave it to the Avengers?
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>>80833898
Because it's entirely too early for it to be implemented. They haven't even discovered Attilan, how the fuck was there a Terrigen bomb large enough to poison the ocean when every other Inhuman city stole their crystals when fleeing Atlan? Not only that, all this Inhuman shit they're doing is going to cause so much ass pain when the movie comes out and completely contradicts AoS.
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>>80834219
All that shit was the showrunners getting early access to film scripts and implementing what they saw. That's once again show referencing film, not the other way around.
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>>80834255
If you say so
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>>80833898
because the inhumans have always and will always be bargain bin x-men and it's far too early to introduce them when their movie isn't slated to come out until 2019 or someshit
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>>80834255
Give up, man. These people are hopelessly deranged fanatics willing to die for their "canon".
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>>80834219
AoU being explicitly written without AoS in mind is exactly where the "non-canon" meme started.

The show was filling in background stuff in the movies. The movie wasn't using stuff from the show.
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>>80834287
I don't think you understand how cannon works
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>>80834365
Take gun
Place gun powder inside barrel
Load shot
Point barrel toward enemy
Ignite gunpowder
Cannonball exits barrel
Ideally it hits target
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>>80833814
Have you considered the possibility that this MCU movie that's billed as a "War" will just have a handful of heroes in it?
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>>80832530
>MAOUU

The alternate revolutionary Chinese timeline?
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>>80834300
As it should be. That doesn't make it non-canon. It's like these people have never read a comic before. Superior Foes of Spider-man had a bunch of references to Hickman's Avengers epic, but Hickman's Avengers sure as fuck didn't namedrop the Sinister Six.

AoS is canon, the movies are canon, the netflix shows are canon. The movies will NEVER make a reference to AoS though because the movie folks don't care about it, that doesn't make AoS non-canon though. The current Marvel Star Wars comics are canon to Star Wars, but are you expecting Darth Vader's quirky fangirl sidekick to show up in the movies or even get referenced in the movies? Fuck no. That doesn't mean the comics aren't canon though.
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>>80834300
The show still provided a nice explanation for explaining how an hellicarrier was able to come out out of nowhere.
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>>80834223
I don't see how this is condradictory. Attilan is where all the pure-bred inhumans that don't give a fuck about the outside world are, no one else knows about it. The ones in AoS are all the products of thousands of years of crossbreeding with humanity from the inhumans that either left Attilan or never went to Attilan when it was first being created.

The movie won't acknowledge the shit in AoS, because the movie will be 100% focused on Attilan, and the people in Attilan don't know nor care about what's going on in that outside world.
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>>80834178
Guardians of the Galaxy is not referenced by the other movies, so it's not canon. Fucking kill yourself you worthless faggot.
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>>80834683
The MCU doen't always stick to the 616 canon, you know.

We'll see how the inhuman movie plays out.

it will play out as Agent of Shield: The Movie and that movie will just as ignored by the rest of the MCU movies as AoS currently is
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>>80834526
Keep up sport we're getting 60+ don't say irrelevant things
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>>80834643
/thread

Who Team Iron here?
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>>80834178
>>80834702
Lol
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>>80834702
It's literally a part of MCU because it's a movie, but keep grasping at straws here, little man(probably a woman by the way you type). I bet you think the shorts or one-shots or whatever the fuck those things they made are canon, as well.
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>>80834702
>Guardians of the Galaxy is not referenced by the other movies
Yes it is. It's teased in the middle credit scene of Thor 2.
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>>80834919
>I bet you think the shorts or one-shots or whatever the fuck those things they made are canon, as well
>Implying it's not
It's all canon pham. What do you want? Iron Man to walk into his house after a long day of being a dick only to see the Agents of Sheild cast eating all his food?
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>>80834702
>>80834983
Marvelbronies on suicide watch.
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>>80825064
That tiny ball and chain is hilarious to me.
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>>80834983
The collector appears, and then he appears in the movie. None of the guardians are ever referenced, it's not canon.
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>All these muh canon /tv/ faggots that never read a comic book in their entire life
just kill me senpai
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>>80835206
what does that have to do with anything?
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>>80835258
He's trying to bump the thread with bait.

Stressing over canon is dumb anyways.
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I've never heard Donald Trump talk about any of you on television, therefore you must not exist within the same universe as him.
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>>80834796
Source on that?
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>>80835571
Jokes on you, I'm an illegal immigrant.

Hold on, someone's at the door.
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AoS will have a Civil War tie in episode, maybe two.

It doesn't matter if the movie doesn't give focus to the show. AoS will still be connected.
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>>80835641
http://comicbook.com/2016/01/14/russo-brothers-clarify-67-characters-in-avengers-infinity-war-re/
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>>80835675
When is the MCU getting a crossover with AoS?
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>>80835696
Characters. Not superheroes.

That means we have the supporting casts of all current and future movies potentially taking up those slots.
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>>80835206
The MCU doesn't work like comics. For one, it's successful.
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At this point, the argument is nothing.
The thread is over

It all boils down to

>The more likely thing that will happen is X
>The smarter move to pull would be Y

It's all just a waiting game at this point.
Personally, I think we'll see the Defenders in Infinity War. 67 characters is just such a big number. Granted a nice chunk of that will be characters from the past like Red Skull, but still, my bet is for Jessica Jones and Daredevil to pop up.
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>>80836165
I'm pretty sure that we'll get the full Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist lineup given that we're only a year and a half away from Defenders. Hellcat, Misty Knight, and others depend on how the shows handle them. We also have no idea how much of Thor's cast will show up (Valkyrie, BRB, Warriors 3, Odin? if they're even alive), but we can assume that all of the Guardians will show up.
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>>80825064
I wonder if we'll see Creel in Daredevil season 2?
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>>80835206
if these retards are from /tv/ that explains why there so many faggots in this thread
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>>80825064
>redeemed
>one of the few villains out there that could fuck up the Hulk
>lets waste him on Agents of Shield
whatever you say, op
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