What does /co/ think of Jessica Jones?
>>79672549
Whoa is that guy jessica Jones?
>>79672549
I give it a B-/C+.
Well acted, well produced, interesting enough (keeps you wanting to watch) but retarded written with too many plot holes because the characters acted way to irrationally and illogically, like not even believably so.
A show devoid of any substance.
Good show. Better than CWshit
>>79672679
Elaborate.
Decent. Slow at times with a boring ending.
Just finished it tonight. I thought it was good. Kept me wanting to watch. I found Daredevil boring at times unlike this. The cast is much more likable.
>>79672549
You forgot your obligatory "Now that the dust has settled..."
I liked it. It sagged in the middle, but it's pretty decent overall.
>>79672679
You may not have liked it, but it wasn't devoid of substance.
>>79672549
who the fuck is making these threads daily?
>>79673020
>>79672945
This is literally the first post I've made on /co/ so i have no idea what you're talking about.
>>79672914
>The cast is much more likable.
You are absolutely high.
Inferior to Daredevil in most ways, but Daredevil was like a 9/10 so that's not being fair to JJ.
I don't have high hopes for the show without Kilgrave, though. He carried it, the actual leads aren't likable or interesting enough to build a show around on their own.
>>79673020
I see one once a week. Lurk moar.
>>79672549
What do you want us to think?
>>79673480
I want you to go to the corner of your room and stay there forever.
I haven't bothered with it. Is it any good?
I didn't like it as much as Daredevil. Focusing on one villain for the majority of the show worked for DD, since Kingpin's nature as a crime boss meant he had an army of dudes for DD to fight through first.
The problem with Kilgrave is that half of the time it's "Darn, he just barely got away again!" I would've greatly preferred if Kilgrave wasn't there the whole time, like if the earlier episodes focused on some of Jessica's other cases that in the end turned out to be related to Kilgrave. For the show about a PI it didn't try very hard to weave together any mystery and I felt that was a waste.
Started off ok, then the writing became bat shit retarded and is really starting to piss me off. I'm up to ep 11 andKillgrave has escaped Jessica 4 FUCKING TIMES!
Shit's all over the source material. The comic was never about Killgrave. It was about an interesting and fucked up character with an interesting and fucked up background trying to solve interesting and fucked up situations. But nope. It's a modern superhero, so we need villain of the month to be the center of the universe.
I like Krysten Ritter as an actress but hot dam does she make for an awkwardly acted JJ.
I liked it but I don't think I could watch it again unless I'm in the mood for it.
>>79673195
I liked Daredevil. I liked Jessica Jones. I kind of agree with you that Tennant kind of carried the show by being a great villain. Daredevil succeeded by being great action, and by going into Kingpin's head. I can see Jessica Jones doing something similar in future. I'm not familiar with her rogues, so personally I think they'll have a lot of leeway and a lot more need to build them up.
>>79673543
Yes senpai
/co/ hates it because it has a white woman having sex with a black man.
But it's pretty good overall. Not as good as Daredevil and it could probably be 3 or 4 episodes shorter. But still enjoyable.
Boring for the most part. Fight scenes were all really bad, characters were all pretty dumb.
It wasn't amazing but it was watchable enough. I think making a second season is a mistake. Their options are: don't use Kilgrave which is the only reason the show was entertaining or bring Kilgrave back in some contrived fashion and deliver a boring retread.
Didn't have good fights or action choreography at all and probably should have been about 5 episodes shorter than it was, the middle part kind of felt tacked on because they needed to hit an episode order.
That said, David Tennant is fantastic and horrifying (although a lot of his creepiness went away as soon as we see him in person), the themes are great, its mature yet still manages to be fun and the interactions between Jessica and Luke are adorable.
7/10, would cautiously watch season 2.
It's awful.
The cast is dull and boring.
>b-but muh flaws
Don't make the character instantly interesting, imagine that.
The antagonist is boring, and absolutely pathetic in a bad way. There's nothing interesting about him. There's nothing scary about him. He has no charisma whatsoever.
The approach to subjects is so childish and unsubtle, it makes Buffy and its metaphors look deep. Constant "HA HA GET IT RAPE/DOMESTIC ABUSE/DRUG ABUSE" is badly-done and intelligence-insulting.
It's constantly padding itself without offering anything to fill the time with.
It has absolutely nothing to offer.
>>79674534
Jesus Christ, JJ-fags are new Milesfags.
>>79677335
And what shows do you think are so great, Mr.High-and-Mighty?
>>79677518
>JJfag logic: when someone criticizes your shit show, you must meet criticism with defensiveness and shitty sarcasm
Yep, worse than Milesfags.
>>79677541
are you planning to answer their question
>>79675957
>(although a lot of his creepiness went away as soon as we see him in person)
Rule no. 1 of any horror story: once you see the monster, the impact of them on screen is lessened as time goes on
>>79674534
That's not true, I dislike Alias but think Cage sticking it in Jessica's pooper is one of the greatest scenes of softcore pornography in all of western comics.
>>79672549
Tennant was great. Jessica wasn't likable at all, in my opinion, she seems like the kind of person who would have an extremely rancid and smelly cunt, she didn't even change her clothes for the entirety of the first season, she seemed kind of gross.
>>79672549
Ok to pretty good until after ep 8 where it not only gets boring but goes full retard
Don't like how a second season is confirmed
>>79677777
The quints speak the truth
>>79677695
Gee did the abundance of booze and the fact a hobo said she smelled bad not get the point across enough anon?
First off, Kilgrave did nothing wrong.
Also Daredevil has no sex scene, the most explicit it got was Wilson and Vanessa in bed together. Why does JJ have a sex scene every other episode?
>>79672549
Trish had a good booty
Luke Cage had good pecs and a good head
I was expecting more Jessica solving a case in every episode sort of like Alias as a show, but instead it spent most of the time focusing on their conspiracy to expose Kilgrave
Nuke was good surprise
IGH is cool, fits
Rosario Dawson was shoehorned as fuck
>"Hey, should I call my best friend Daredevil to come help you?"
too much focus on the god damn heroin guy
I thought it was great, but a little bit too dark. It was hard to watch in some parts.
>>79677603
Nah, the actually good and well-written horror movie monsters stay consistently scary no matter how much of them you show.
See, Norman Bates, Buffalo Bill, Michael Myersas long as you consider only Carpenter-made films canon, fuck everything that followed after. Johan Liebert in Monster (kind of counts).
>>79678168
>Johan Liebert in Monster
ehhhhhhhhhh
>>79672549
Killgrave was fucking phenomenal. Geri was good. I actually really liked the incest twins as well. Nuke was interesting, moreso at the start of the series.
Everything else honestly ranged from serviceable to bad. Luke was decent, but JJ herself could be frustrating at times. I can appreciate characters acting irrationally, to a certain degree, it adds realism and relatablility, but this show went overboard with it. Characters so often act without reason or logic, to a point where it becomes hard to follow motivations and actions, and it just becomes distracting and frustrating, making almost everyone unlikable. I can see what they were going for, and understand from a writing perspective why they made these decisions, but they just didn't pull it off.
The show definitely peaked in the middle, around when Killgrave had Jessica in her old house.
On the whole, I'd probably give it a 7.5 out of 10. Definitely worse than Daredevil, but still better than average, largely because of Killgrave, who really was excellent in every way.
>>79678211
Oh, come the fuck on.
He was scary every time he appeared.
>>79678069
I just realized to Daredevil all sex scenes are a fade to black.
>>79677603
To be fair, him honestly and genuinely buying Jessica's house, and then peeling the wallpaper off to reveal it was incredibly fucking creepy...right...up until the point where they showed the street signs, to hammer the point in. That's a huge problem of JJ. For all the nuance it wants to have, it has the subtlety of a brick to the kidneys. Why the fuck did we need a scene in episode 1 with Trish expositing the whole streets recital thing? It would've meant a lot more just to hear Jessica explain it to Hope. Writers need to give us 2 and 2, they should almost never tell us it's 4. This is an adult show, we're not supposed to be as retarded as Jessica is.
>>79672601
This tbqhmafamilia
Does she get raped? I have a rape fetish so I would be very interested to know if I should watch this show.
>>79678069
>First off, Kilgrave did nothing wrong.
Why can /co/ not fucking grasp the basic idea that
sympathetic or understandable back story =/= doing nothing wrong.
The show explains to us why Kilgrave turned out so fucked up. He had a horrible childhood and was given an incredibly warped and twisted worldview and really bad personality problems. He never really had a chance, it's not his fault he's such a psychopath. But that doesn't change the fact that he IS a psychopath and DOES do incredibly fucked up things, even if he doesn't realize it. Sure you can feel bad for him, but that doesn't make him in the right. Yeah he didn't realize what he was doing was truly wrong, but almost no one ever does. And he was beyond the point of redemption, of being able to become a good person. It wasn't his fault he was turned into a monster but he WAS a monster.
>>79678270
>Killgrave was fucking phenomenal
Jesus Christ, why do people overrate that shitty villain so much?
>>79672549
The sudden, intense hire buts turned me off. And the blender scene.
>>79678151
>too dark
Nigga, please. It was as dark as your average Criminal Minds episode. Hell, I've seen darker CM episodes.
>>79678486
lol okay anon
>>79678514
>implying I'm wrong
Yeah, yeah. Your show is dark if that helps you sleep at night, big baby.
>>79678524
lol okay man
>>79678582
Quality posting
>JJfags will never stop being cancer
>>79678596
(response)
>>79678486
You just sitting in this thread to shitpost bro?
>>79678659
>any opinion I disagree with is a shitpost
If you think that show is dark, watch more television and movies.
>>79678680
Don't even caring about your whiny argument bro, but it kind of looks like you've made quite a lot of posts here expressing your disagreement with the show and it's a bit disconcerting.
>>79678727
>whiny
Oh, the irony
>w-why you do you criticize muh show, you meanie
It's okay to tell people they have low standards. If everyone did that, maybe we would have less capeshit threads.
anyone else think it does not need a season 2
>>79678772
>>w-why you do you criticize muh show, you meanie
swing and a miss negro, also keep the stuttering in /v/,
learn to accept that it's just apparent that you spent a lot of time in this thread expressing your disgust, and it really shows
take that as you will, nothing more , nothing less my highly dubious friend
>>79678812
After you keep your shit taste in /v/ first.
This is why this board is a laughingstock for everyone else, because they defend shitty products as long as it's capeshit and call them great. I'm just trying to reach out to you faggots so you could get better standards, but it seems you don't want to. You're happy eating shit.
>>79678850
I can't tell if you're baiting or being sincere, either way, here have this
https://www.mediafire.com/?1v43chp6rmkpm
>>79678898
Don't want to, Prophet is garbage. Again, get better taste in comics too.
And yes, I'm sincere.
>>79678912
Ever even looked at Prophet 21 anon?
>>79678928
I don't need to look at sci-fi to know it's shit outside of literature and maybe some movies.
>>79678955
Bahaha okay nigga now you got me, well done
>>79678985
I'm not trolling, it's all shit once you read the classics and realize how derivative the rest of the genre is.
>>79674459
>I'm not familiar with her rogues
She doesn't have any outside Purps.
>>79679124
Well, she had Green Goblin in Pulse, but we all know Marvel won't waste their golden goose on a Netflix show.
Which is a shame, because Osborn is a far scarier character than Purple Man.
I made it like 4 episodes into the show and then stopped. Simply didn't manage to keep my attention.
I like my superheroes to be superheroes and do superheroic stuff. Jessica Jones did none of that - at least not in the first four episodes... Her power display was none existent and the budget was so low, that they had to take her ability to fly, I guess.
It.. was simply boring.
I also didn't like Luke Cage in that show, so I'm going to skip his upcoming show. I hope that Iron Fist will do things differently and be more heroic, the way Daredevil was.
As for now my favorite show is Flash, since it's light-hearted and heroic. Not a fan of the increasing drama in the second season now, but eh... You can't have it all.
>>79672549
it was okay, not as good as daredevil
>>79674459
guarantee they pull some shit and turns out he isn't actually dead
the definition of tedious watching
I liked it, but holy fuck the padding.
it did not need to be 13 episodes, it could have been resolved in 7.
and once he started injecting himself, why couldn't killgrave have actually turned purple?still, he was by far the best part of the show.
>>79679197
>I also didn't like Luke Cage in that show, so I'm going to skip his upcoming show. I hope that Iron Fist will do things differently and be more heroic, the way Daredevil was.
he gets better towards the end, doing superhero stuff and he actually has afight scene with jessica.
Absolute shit show.
Wouldve been better if she tried to solve cases.
Completely shat up the finale. So much wasted potential, and the character of Jessica is a real piece of shit.
>>79679404
>tfw I was hyped for this because the person writing some of my favourite episodes on the early Dexter was a showrunner
I'm still mad at how bad it turned out to be. I even rewatched the first season of Dexter to see if it still holds up and not just me being nostalgic, and it was far more dynamic than Jessica Jones, had better dialogue and a had villain who's actually menacing, somewhat interesting and sympathetic.
I guess Rosenberg wasn't the one who made that show work.
>inb4 Dexter was always shit
First seasons were serviceable and good pulpy police procedural as long as you don't expect Sopranos or the like.
Disappointing - Kristen Manface has the acting range of a sock, her portrayal of Jessica made her to be an unlikeable alcoholic edgelord which may well have been the point but made it impossible to empathise with her, Invincible Black Man™ was average (i assume his character direction was 1 - be black 2 - be angry), Super-Friendzone-Hipster-Drug Addict guy was irritating and i whereas found Kilgrave to be fairly interesting, a pair of headphones and a handgun would have solved that problem.
Trinity the Lesbo Lawyer was the best character.
>>79679640
pretty much sums up my problems with the show.
the comic, for its flaws, does a decent enough job portraying helplessness, loneliness and that constant feeling of alieness/estrangement.
the show is essentially "I got raped, now I'm pissy".
>>79677603
You know that's actually true as well for the rape thing. It was creepy and actually unsettling up until Jessica just flat out goes "you raped me Kilgrave." I dunno if that's intentional or what and is meant to be part of the message of the show to not hide away from what happened, but it became a lot less creepy when she flat out said it.
>>79679913
>It was creepy
Where? Nothing in the show was even slightly creepy.
It was pretty much trying to be a thriller without anything that makes thrillers good.
>>79679926
The whole stalker with a camera thing, the phone calls and the paranoia that anyone could be working with Kilgrave I found was unsettling. Not nightmare level, but did a good job of portraying the shifted mindset of someone with PTSD (I imagine). Speaking of which, is it normal for people when talking to people with PTSD to just go "It's just your PTSD talking"? It sounds awkward to me.
>>79679197
>the budget was so low, that they had to take her ability to fly, I guess
Jessica not having a hang of her flying due to being in early superhero retirement has always been a thing. She only had her powers for a few weeks or something before the Purple Man incident and then tried to ignore having powers for a long time and thus never mastered her flight.
>>79679913
Well to be fair in the comic there's the whole thing where he made her desperately want him while he raped OTHER girls in front of her, and never slipped her the purple, but that wouldn't translate over to live action quite so well. It's a lot easier to just flat out say he did rape her, then move on to the ramifications, rather than spending show time on creepy cheerleader 3-somes while jess watched and explaining in detail how she wanted to join in but couldn't. It's something of a land mine issue to handle anyway, and her being mind-but-not-body-raped would have made her even less sympathetic, more like the white guy in the support group that only lost his coat. People would feel worse for the cheerleaders he boned than Jessica who just stood there.
>>79680022
The show actually did a real shitty job with all of that. At no point any of that was even slightly disturbing and the show was too devoid of any suspense.
>>79680028
No as in, it was pretty obvious that he did fuck her while she was under his control, but the tension was higher when they didn't explicitly say it, the elephant in the room as it were, imagination being worse than the real thing phenomenon going on
>>79680088
Well that's just like, your opinion man
Purple Man wasn't actually purple, not even when he got the power upgrade at the end.
He should have been purple in the last episode. 1 hour of airbrushing on his hands and faceis all it would have taken.
I hope when Nuke shows up in Luke Cage he has the face tattoo.
Overall I liked it, 8/10.
How do they even do a season 2? Kilgrave was the show and made Jessica relevant.
Jessica's powers are shit. She can be killed by any hobo with a gun or even a fucking knife. Any serious villain would be able to kill her with ease. How to they introduce any antagonist that lasts more than episodes without getting caught or killing her?
>>79679046
I admire your tenacity for deeming something as shit without even taking the time to look at it.
>>79679225
He does have a healing factor.
