Say something good about Marvel in its current state
Eh... Black Knight got his book?
Vision is good.
I got nothing else.
>>78921953
>Tieri
Hardly a good thing.
Iron man looks kinda cool I guess.
>inb4 marvelshills manage to make it seem like ANAD marvel isn't failing
Vision is a good book
Herc has good beefcake in it
>>78921937
I got me some nice books.
>>78921983
>>78921965
Who is the shill here?
joe kelly is wrtiting deadpool again
>>78921977
The art is fine, but Bendis writing is cancer
>>78921974
I didn't say it's good book, it's really dumb. But hey, he got book, I don't remember him having one recently.
>>78922020
Yeah, it has Bendis moments.
But the ideas are mildly interesting and it's not like I'm paying money for that.
The Inhumans books have improved. Lady hellbender is sexy. Vision is good.
>>78922000
you are because no one in their right mind would pick Marvel over DC
>>78922000
You? Marvel doesn't make "nice books" they make memes and SJW pandering propaganda. If you want "nice books" then go read some DC, but you're probably too stupid to understand its superior storytelling. Anyone that hasn't read Omega Men doesn't deserve to have an opinion on comics.
>>78921937
it can't be worse
>>78922113
This. I wish all the Marvel shills would just fuck off already.
>>78922011
have you read it? don't keep your hopes high
>>78922116
You sure?
>>78921937
Vision is pretty good. Too bad its not doing as well as it should be doing
>>78922114
>SJW pandering propaganda
If you don't like it, get a new hobby, that's all comics
>>78921937
Lol fuck off shill. Better thread: let's talk about how how fucking based DC is.
>>78922099
>The Inhumans books have improved.
Next time try better when you are baiting.
>>78922145
Nope, but at least I tried
>>78922114
>Writing female and minority heroes is SJW pandering
Vision is great
Totally Awesome Hulk is fun, at the very least a good vessel for more Cho art
Astonishing Ant-Man is still good
Karnak and Spider-Man/Deadpool have potential
Captain America has its moments
New Avengers is just knowingly retarded enough to keep me reading
>>78922156
The thing is, Vision is good for marvel, but it would be painfully average for an indie comic. Seriously, enough with this Vision memeing.
reminder that if you prefer Marvel over DC, you're the reason Tumblr is winning
>>78922157
I didn't realise "Marvel and Indiefaggotry" was ALL comics. Last I checked, that's only 2/3rds of the industry. I'm perfectly happy with the last third aka the best third. Marvel is for SJWs and normies, Indiefaggotry is for Hipsters, and DC is for patricians.
>>78922177
>writing
If only marvel was doing that.
>>78922195
True. I fucking hate when normies come here and bitch about Marvel exclusive problems and say "well that's all comics!"
>>78922195
DC and Marvel comics have the same readers, you retard
DC is just as SJW as Marvel except they already had multiple minority heroes
>>78922099
Cholk is fucking glorious so far.
>>78922181
>Totally Awesome Hulk is fun, at the very least a good vessel for more Cho art
That by itself is reason enough to not get outraged over it, though.
>>78922113
>>78922114
>>78922163
>>78922190
>>78922195
I see your point. Clearly I am the mindless shill. Where is that Batman now...
>>78922168
>Next time try better when you are baiting.
Sorry that I like what you don't like anon.
>>78922190
This. I don't even read comics and I can tell this is the case. Once BvS blows everyone the fuck out then we'll finally have gotten a major victory against The Matriarchy. After that it'll only be a matter of time before tumblr is finished, so remember to do your part by:
>support DC (since they're our greatest ally in the war against the SJWs)
>blast Marvel every chance you get (since they support the enemy)
>don't let the shills (like OP) take over the board
Together, we can finally turn the tide against the feminazis.
At least Hickman finally left
>>78922259
I'm sorry that you don't have standards. Hiding behind an animu picture is not helping your argument
>>78922276
>>78922276Being on /co/, I'm not quite sure who is joking here and who actually thinks that was anything like a valid opinion to hold. I guess the problem will solve itself once Disney buys DC.
They make DC look great in comparison
They have some great artists on their books like Del Mundo and Bachalo.
They approached Tom King to write a sci fi book with Vision, so at least someone in their editorial staff has good taste and an eye for talent.
I've enjoyed their Star Wars books for the most part.
>>78922231
No they don't. Most of Marvels readership is new because of what they've done to their characters and the movie synergy.
Most of DCs readers are older and have been reading comics.
Marvel having minority and female characters is not what makes it SJW. It's the way they write and introduce those characters.
>>78922276
More likely what will happen is:
>DC is supported by misogynists and racists!
>I'm gonna buy more Marvel
>>78922346
>They approached Tom King to write a sci fi book with Vision
Not SF book but suburban horror book.
>>78922372
it already happened. at this point marvel is losing the readership with their relaunches
>>78922363
>way they write and introduce those characters.
Excluding Whor, list issues with 2 other characters
>>78922340
>once Disney buys DC
Warner will never sell. If we reach a point where Disney can afford to buy out Warner then there will be way bigger problems within the entertainment industry than who owns a pair of superhero IP farms.
>>78922237
>Cholk
Only good thing about it is the art.
And who the fuck thought that Maddy should be called Madame instead of Marie.
>say something good about Marvel
>turns into a shit on Marvel thread
Kek I'm waiting on a shill to bring up sales, like convincing entry level new readers to buy floppies is the pinnacle of quality.
>>78922397
This. People have been pushign back HARD against the SJWs that s why ANAD was such a massive failure because people aren't putting up with this shit anymore. It's not too late to join the winning side, anons.
>>78922402
diff anon
>spider-gwen
>spider-man
>failcon
>the way they make Iceman gay, by Jean outing him
>spider-woman
>captain marvel
>>78922372
>DC is supported by misogynists and racists!
WW
Batgirl
Secret Six
JL3000
Cyborg
Dr Fate
Starfire
Harley
GL Lost Army
>>78922376
From what I remember from the letter pages King said that they approached him for a Vision sci fi book and the suburban horror, the psychological sci fi, that the book is was his pitch and he was surprised that they went for it.
>>78922438
You forgot the atrocity that is Hellcat.
>Men are the worst
>YEAH THEY ARE
Jesus I don't think anything ever made me cringe that hard.
>>78922139
i have, it was fun, not what i expected but i'm interested to see where it goes.
>>78922427
Lol this. Marvel BTFO yet again.
>>78922438
Great arguments
>Falcon
Had more right to the mantle than Bucky, he was his partner for far longer and has a longer history in the Marvel U
>>78922462
Not even Wanda's superpower of being a woman?
>>78922476
I'm not against the idea of Falcon being Cap. It's how they approached it. When you have a mandatory white blonde blue eye character being anti-black cap on the very first page of the comic, it makes your eyes roll. I'm surprised they made her a woman.
>>78922519
That's been there since the fucking 70's.
>>78922527
>When you have a mandatory white blonde blue eye character being anti-black cap on the very first page of the comic, it makes your eyes roll. I'm surprised they made her a woman.
It was meta, it reflected the hostility he received from racists online
>>78921937
Fuck off shill!!
THIS IS NOW A BASED DC THREAD:
Everyone post your favorite things about DC.
>>78922519
People don't really care about Wanda. She seems like an obscure-tier character.
>>78921961
This is all pretty much, maybe karnak too
>>78922557
That's fucking cringey. That doesn't belong in a comic book.
If they wanna make him take the mantle that's fine. Don't have people coming up to him and saying YOU SHOULDNT BE CAP CAUSE YOU ARE BLACK. That's called an agenda. Kids don't need to even be introduced to that kind of hostile thinking.
>>78921937
Some titles are fun to read.
>>78922557
Thanks for pointing out another marvel problem.
They became too meta for their own good.
Howard the Duck is their ultimate meta / self-aware comic.
Let's not get started on the Inhumans / X-Men.
How many times Marvel can stir shit online, before people become desensitized?
The recent CW II discussion about who bites the dust was one of the funniest on /co/
>>78922561
DC actually hires a diverse creative staff of writers and artists. There are many minority creators working on books that aren't just thrown on books with minority characters, unlike Marvel who have a staff of white, mostly male creators on even their diverse books.
>>78922561
My favorite thing is how they're pushing the boundaries and definitions of what cape comcis can be. They're doing new and innovative things that take advantage of the medium while building on its legacy in new and interesting ways. Thigns like Omega Men, Midnighter, and Grayson are things you'd never see at Marvel. DC is taking RISKS, knowing that they might not sell but realising that quality storytelling is more important than sales.
>>78922606
They didn't hate him because he was black though? They didn't like him because of his political views that he expressed publicly.
>>78922606
>That doesn't belong in a comic book.
Oh, my. Political statements!? How dare they!
>>78922561
Their creators can beat up marvel's "creators."
>>78922606
The thing is, they are doing it IN-YO-FACE, look how progressive we are! type of thing. No nuance, no subtlety. They basically write 100% what sjw wants to read, even if there is no need for that
>>78922561
>>78922624
Deadpool is still selling well
>>78922660
I'm going to use my Godwin's Law card and render your whole argument invalid.
>>78922660
Post now cover where Steve is Hitler.
>>78922660
>comparing fighting the height of tyranny is comparable to pushing an anti-straight white male agenda and using comics to create a generation of impresisonable youths that literally are brain-washed into hating all straight white men
Fuck off shill.
>>78922653
>Thinking he actually reads comics
>>78922687
10 years from now Deadpool will have the same legacy as Eddie Brock Venom. Take from that what you will.
>>78922664
>>78922719
>>78922661
Greg Capullo could take on the entire Marvel creative staff on his own.
>>78922730
Nice picture of your mother. I don't know what she has to do with our discussion.
>>78922719
>tyranny
The only thing Hitler did wrong is not eliminating only Russians because they are biggest subhumans on the planet.
Where can you actually discuss comics without this constant SJW v. anti-SJW bullshit taking over?
Is CBR decent now?
>>78922747
BASED DC
A
S
E
D
D
C
>>78922791
>Is CBR decent now?
No.
>>78922791
>Is CBR decent
>>78922791
Lol, not at all. The opposite.
>>78922791
>constant SJW v. anti-SJW bullshit taking over?
It's just newshits, it's not common
>>78922791
>Is CBR decent now?
No. I've looked all over and have come up wanting. The sites that aren't filled with sycophants and shit taste casuals are just infested with the same "SJW v. anti-SJW" War of the Retards. Finding a place where the userbase:
>actually read comics
>actually like comics
>have taste that go beyond loving anything shat out by the Big 2 regardless of quality and ignoring everything else
>capable of holding a conversation that doesn't revolve around us vs. them politicking
Is pretty much impossible.
The comic fandom has always been pretty shitty but it's never been as bad as it is now. Thanks World Wide Web.
>>78922114
>the Marvel shills have finally evolved into DC false flagging.
I know the worst about this whole deal?Your bait isn't even wrong ; ^)
I can't stand to this board anymore, /co/ is DED. look at all this company war, fuck you all faggots
>>78923083
There is no company war really. There are a few loud vocal minority new readers that like Marvel but it seems the general consensus is that DC is a much better company with much higher quality comics.
If that upsets you I'm sorry you are probably a plebeian.
>>78922157
>I only read capeshit
Probably are an Avengers baby
>Marvel shills honestly think their false flagging will cause /co/ to hate DC
>not realizing this will only cause indiefags to become even more pretentious cuz their are "so above the console wars"
Funny
>>78922747
Best artist
Best guns
Creator and destroyer
Let's play spot the false flash
>>78923163
Hello /tv/
>96 replies
>24 posters
hmm
>>78923254
That was what I was trying to do anyways
>>78923293
>Let's play spot the false flash
Found 'em.
>>78921937
I seriously can't.
>>78921937
I like how the sales are flopping and a complete crash has never seemed closer.
I just want to be free
Ya'll faggots are forgetting about the true hero of Marvel, and his book is still good
>>78922195
>all indie is SJW
the most successful self published comic of all time is by a self proclaimed massive misogynist and anti feminist
But of course people who play company wars know shit about comics.
>>78923524
Foes were better and less whiny.
>>78921937
Perhaps ANAD will be responsible for people and retailers refusing to buy big relaunches and DC and Marvel will have to find other ways in raising sales.
It could be worse?
>say something good about marvel
>instant company wars thread
Carnage has been nice and atmospheric
The Vision is unexpectedly heavy
I really like the art on iron man.
Vision is the one great book in Marvel's lineup right now.
Karnak is okay. It seems like Ellis is uninterested though.
Joe Kelly is on Deadpool, but his take has been poorly aped by so many other people that it's been diluted.
Totally Awesome Hulk is okay fun, but not the brilliance I expect from Pak on Hulk.
Most of the Inhuman books have improved.
Thor is still a pretty book to look at.
Everything else is just mediocre. All the Avengers books are just heroes taking stupid pills until Loki inevitably shows up. Spider-Man is a watered down Iron Man. Iron Man is low-stakes RDJ fanfiction.
Punisher will have a good writer and we are getting more Dilon Frank face
>>78923666
Agreed but I do like the ANAD Avengers lineup in the main book
>>78923666
What makes you think ellis is uninterested?
>>78921937
Ms. Marvel
Vision
>>78922569
How the hell is scarlet witch obscure?
>>78922441
So?
All they'll see are people from 4chan loving DC and will immediately be repulsed by the entire company
People don't even know half of those tings exist.
>>78924784
She's one of the lesser known x-characters. The only reason they're even giving her an ongoing is because she's the only x-character they have the rights to.
>>78922363
>Most of DCs readers are older and have been reading comics.
I've gotta hunch that you didn't even start reading comics until about 2008.
>>78926051
I really wish this Scarlet witch is an X character thing would die already. It's as accurate as calling Wolverine a hulk character.
>Well she killed a bunch of mutants. She's an X-villain!
No one gives a shit besides X-fags. She's Avenger until the day she dies.
>>78921937
I seriously can't.
>>78926051
I know /co/ doesn't read comics but do people actually think she's an X-men character?
>>78922695
>>78921937
fuck no
>>78926051
>She's one of the lesser known x-characters.
Back to /tv/ with you
>>78921937
Lady Hellbender has a nice booty
>>78922527
>I'm surprised they made her a woman.
Pretty sure that was a reference to Megyn Kelly.
>>78926637
>>78926738
She hardly came up for x-fags until they retconned her being mag's daughter and a mutant. Suddenly she is an integral x-character. Quicksilver I get being mutant and mags son was big for him but it meant very little Wanda's character. She is a much an x-character as black panther is a F4 Character.
>>78921937
Marvel didn't get buttfucked by the mouse dick as quickly as Star Wars did
That's the only nice thing I can think of
>>78929705
Wow that fucking angers me like nothing before.
>>78929705
triggered
>>78926637
she is, and she was a mutant for 50 years. and your avenger tears means nothing, since even avengers office doesn't want to do anything with her.
>>78926051
more or less this. but some people will deny this.
>>78929968
You mean, crucial? Because Black Panther formed Fantastic Force, and over years closely co-operated with FF. If you want to compare, use a good comparison.
Scarlet Witch being a mutant was VERY important, especially that she married Vision (a synthezoid)
Mutant plus artificial life triggered a lot of marvel citizens
>>78930242
its a homage, not a fucking comparison
>>78921937
I like their Star Wars books.
>>78930955
Meh.
She was a mutant but she was distinctly never an X-character. She's as much a X-character as Molly Hayes.
No amount of your bitching will change that. Her entire history is wrapped in avengers.
>>78930955
I think anyone who has read a comic before House of M knows where she belongs.
But stay desperate X-fag.
>let's have a thread about which shit company is less shit than the other
you console war fags are the worst
>>78922190
Reminder if all you just read is shit from DC or Marvel you are a massive pleb
>>78934298
tumblr pls
Vision is good, but at this point you whisper Tom King anywhere within my hemisphere and my dick becomes diamonds
Robinson is here in sorta his element, i just hope there's no executive meddling
That's it for me, I read all the spider books but don't have much else to say about them for now
Obviously we should all be reading Invincible
>>78934420
>implying tumblr hasn't fully taken over Marvel at this point.
For every Lumberjanes there's a Squirrel Potato and Whor at this point. Hellboy is one of the best consistently good comic universes period and if you haven't read it yet consider yourself a pleb.
>>78934431
Robinson's editor wants nothing but sexy Wanda
>>78934691
I would think so. She wanted Wanda to be Marvel Carmen Sandiego,
>>78923254
If indiefags spent half as much time actually discussing non-Big 2 comics as they did bitching about "capeshit" then /co/ wouldn't be so dominated by Big 2 discussion in the first place.
>>78934691
Scarlet Witch keeps spoiling details in Vision. Haven't noticed the reverse yet.
what even happened to the mods, it's like they don't even exist anymore since last week
company war threads are usually deleted within an hour at most
>>78935002
Vision #1 spoiled Wanda was suffering depression.
MCLEL
>>78922188
agreed 200%
>>78923524
based Ant-man. The only series I'm buying from marvel nowadays. Fucking canadian dollar goin down the drain. They chargin us $5.55 for a goddamn $4 book.
>This entire thread
Hahah
What was your favorite Spiderwoman moment of 2015?
Good?
Well the most positive thing about Marvel right now is that their relaunch trick seems to have worked on less people this time.
>>78921937
I'm only buying books based off my love for the character and their respective current creating team.
Totally Awesome Hulk with Greg Pak and Frank Cho is actually pretty fun, mostly buying it for the Cho art though.
Daredevil is the book I have most faith in right now since it's Charle Soule (he used to be a lawyer if I have my facts right) and Ron Garny surprised the crap out of me with his art, very gritty and fitting for Daredevil.
I'm gonna be checking out Silver Surfer cause I kind of enjoy Alred's art and I'm hoping Slott doesn't Spider-man the crap out of Silver Surfer, I hear Alred is co-writing though so I have some hope.
Last one of my list to check out is the new Moon Knight by Jeff Lemire, that's all I needed to know to get me hooked.
Books I read online but didn't buy so far are Doc Strange, Invincible Iron Man, and Spider-Man 2099.
Doctor Strange would be way more amazing if Bachalo stopped getting jobs at Marvel. His art has gotten really bad I'm sad to say.
Iron Man was good I guess, too much Bendis Bubbles killed it for me though.
Spider-Man 2099 is the epitome of mediocre.
>>78929705
I'm not even white and I would be mad. If I was white and cared about lame characters like Captain America and Steve's Token Who Talks To Birds.
That is funny as shit and I can't believe Marvel did that.
And by "can't" I mean "totally can".
Lol damn Marvel. Lmfao
Carnage, Deadpool, and Vision are all great. I'm buying a bunch of other books too, like Antman, Web warriors, Spider-man 2099 and Venom too.
>>78929705
I'm quite surprised no one at Marvel actually stopped to think about the implication
> CHO
> COIPEL
> SCHITI
> PICHELLI
> RUDY
> MARQUEZ
> CHEUNG
> OPENA
> CHECCHETTO
> CASELLI
> CHOI
> ALEX ROSS COVERS
> DELL OTTO
> SQUADRON SUPREME ONGOING
> TA HULK ONGOING
> LADY HELLBENDER
> ACUNA
> DAUTERMAN
> ADAMS
> USING CUL THE SERPENT
> MINOTAUR
> A-FORCE
> A-FORCE'S ARTIST
> DAREDEVIL'S CURRENT ONGOING
> BEST RON GARNEY ART I HAVE EVER SEEN.
Only thing I like about ANAD Marvel is Iron Man's hexagon suit.
Oh, and Darth Vader.
>>78929705
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>78921937
Vision reads like an episode of the Twilight Zone and is a breath of fresh air in a stale era.
Ultimates is Fantastic Four meets The Authority and it'everything you'd expect to see in high-concept widescreen science adventuring. I'll be buying the trade.
Um...
Ta-Nehisi Coates is coming to Black Panther?
Karnak might be a good read when issue 6 comes out in 2017.
The Star Wars books are quality.
Doctor Strange has an ongoing with an interesting hook for the first time in decades.
>>78922719
Steve, have you already forgotten what the therapist said last week?
You should really refrain from broadcasting your paranoid delusions on the world wide web, sweetie.
Well Marvel certainly knows how to still sell collectible figures and bobble heads. And they make movies that make enough money that it can support the comics no matter what they do.
>>78922519
Powers coming from Chthon is actually what adds complexity and conflict as well as a feninist context. Making it "woman power" takes all that cool shit out I fear.
>>78929705
Did someone point this out to Rich yet?
It'd be worse if it didn't exist right now... I guess?
>>78922476
How does a retard like you actually manage to get on the Internet? Bucky already WAS Captain America for several years long before Falcon.
>>78921937
MARY JEAN
>>78939997
Why would anybody?
>>78921937
We don't have to be afraid of new things, since all new ideas are J St old characters with race and gender changes retelling old, shit tier stories
