Characters never allowed to be more than a punchline.
Pic couldn't be more relevant unless it was Worf himself.
>>78604866
I know life and death are a revolving door in the Marvel universe, but I thought Taskmaster was dead.
>>78604866
there was a time Gladiator was only ever used for this purpose
>>78604866
I usually don't bitch about jobbing but that moment left a sour taste in my mouth. One of Taskmaster's main draws is the fact he never outright jobs and is always a cagey opponent.
>>78604950
he jobs all the time.
>>78604962
No he doesn't. He loses often, because he's the bad guy, but that's not the same thing as jobbing. He always (usually) gives the hero a tough protracted fight. I can't think of an immediate example of him being defeated as quickly as he was by Laura in this issue.
Worf was actually a badass in DS9 though
>>78604866
>>78604950
Hack writers are hacks.
Lets allow Taskmaster to be surprised by Laura's foot-claw as shown in the panel. Its unlikely, he studies the metahuman community because it directly benefits him to do so, on the very next page he makes a comment that suggests he has indeed studied her, so stopping her foot with his hand instead of, say, his Cap shield, makes no sense. But whatever, lets allow it.
He gets his hand stabbed and from that goes from completely dominating the fight to a quick stomp-down by Laura. Would such a wound throw me off my pace? Hell ya. Would suffering such a wound in combat reduce *Taskmaster* to a punching bag? No, I don't think so.
If marvel wants to rehabilitate Taskmaster then someone in editorial is going to need to lay down the law that hack writers don't get to keep misuing him this way.
>>78604866
What, they actually show Taskmaster's face? I thought that never happened.
>>78604866
Quinjets deserve their own entry, especially anytime they go up against the Savage Land.
>>78605059
>tfw you remember anons threw shitfit over Deadpool saying "fuck" in movie
Wolverine.
>>78605085
Pearl should get to say 'fuck' but not Deadpool?
![taskmaster00a[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Kpi9iLK.jpg "taskmaster00a[1].jpg")
>>78605059
Yeah, he's pretty handsome in a rugged way.
ANW makes him look not as good though, which sucks.
Tasky x X-23 OTP
>>78605059
happened in moon knight
Rhino jobs whole time. Wonder Man, Thor, probably Thing, didn't read much of F4. Silver Surfer. Martian Manhunter. Green Lantern's Guardians or what their name is job to every next big cosmic villain.
>>78605044
AT that point he thought he had done what he was paid to do and had gotten wounded by Laura who was not part of the plan.
I think he simply had nothing to gain anymore which makes stopping the fight a good strategy, especially when down a sword hand.
And when the girls got back up he was outnumbered 4-1 and wounded, might as well keep playing possum and come back once healed up.
Yes, this is a lot of speculation, but if you are a merc, how hard are you willing to fight for a job, really?
>>78605004
When Moon Knight went full schizo he beat him so soundly he was sobbing and begging for his life
In his first ever appearance he got rekt by Jocasta because he had never seen her before
>>78604921
>>78604866
skullmaster is a shit character with a tryhard design whose entire schtick is that he's not quite as goo as any other character.
You're just being a fanboi
>>78605044
>stopping her foot with his hand instead of, say, his Cap shield, makes no sense.
It's an adamantium claw, it'd be about the same result.
>>78605059
They did it in that shitty miniseries they put out a few years back.
>>78605194
I dunno, 54+ consecutive explosions to the stomach seem like it should have some effectDoes Gambit take out the rule cards from his decks?
>>78605194
Was this jobbing or legit? Gladiator is all over the place. When Thanos fucked up the annihilators he got teleported away for being the biggest threat, while silver surfer was there.
>>78604866Worf
>>78605440
>>78605433
I think this is when Vulcan runs the Shi'ar and Gladiator was seriously questioning his job which makes him weaker since his powers are based on confidence
>>78605299
She kicked without the claw out. He caught the foot, she popped the claw, his hand was skewered. Instead, he could have blocked the kick with his shield. His shield wouldn't have held her foot, her foot would have rebounded off.
Admit it, that scene was specifically set up to artificially inflate Laura. I don't mind her winning against Taskmaster but show us her beating him without him making stupid tactical errors. Its just *easier* when you're a crappy writer to let stuff like this happen.
>>78605433
Jobbing on, as usual, BB's account.
>>78605565
>Admit it, that scene was specifically set up to artificially inflate Laura.
I don't read the book, I think it's a stupid concept and I hate the costume. A properly written Taskmaster would have dodged the kick, as he'd know about the foot claw and that catching or deflecting the kick would risk getting skewered.
>>78605565
If he wanted to grab her foot, shouldn't he have actually grabbed in instead of catching it? Catching it provides no grip
Though, if he'd grabbed it, the claw couldn't have pierced his hand
>>78605565
Or Tasky could have just grabbed Laura's ankle. Who grabs the tip of someone's foot when they kick at you?
>>78605780
And doesn't Laura have blades on her feet, as well?
>>78605780
this right here, why would anyone grab the tip of the foot instead of the ankle it provides more grip and leverage
>>78604921
That wasn't jobbing but a legit good counter. Cannonball is invincible while using his powers, and he used that to make Gladiator lose his confidence, making him extremely vulnerable.
>>78605440
We need more pics of Taskmaster trying to mimic impossible powers.
>>78605900
>>78605912
>>78605900
How about Jessica Drew?
He tries to mimic her pheromoning and ends up confronting a horde of horny people chasing him through the streets.
>>78605952
The point is that he cannot mimic that power, not that he manages to monkey paw them.
>>78605168
The Wrecking Crew are professional jobbers. It is literally their job to show up and get smacked around whenever some generic villains are needed.
>>78605980
Okay, tries throwing his shield like Steve, gets it smacked right back into his face?
Tries to mimic Iron Fist's chi-punching, ends up breaking his hand?
>>78605900
>sees Spot
>paints a hole on a wall
>tries jumping into it
>Sees Sandman change his fist into a hammer
>His shadow seems to have succeeded
>He's just holding a really large bear can
>Sees Power Girl
>cuts a hole in his suit to show a bit of ball-cleavage
>>78604950
>>78604962
>>78605168
>>78605887
What is to job?
holy shit this is such an autistic thread
anyone who reads tvtropes needs to get off this board
>>78606145
>Okay, tries throwing his shield like Steve, gets it smacked right back into his face?
He throws his shield like Cap non-stop. It's pretty much why he uses a shield.
>Tries to mimic Iron Fist's chi-punching, ends up breaking his hand?
That could work, haha.
>>78606203
Having a specific weakness exploited is not weakness. Otherwise you could say that the Tiger and Tiger 2 tanks in WW2 were jobbing.
>>78606061
And now Thunderball joined Illuminati hoping to win any of his battles.
>>78606203
To lose so you can show how hero is mighty & awesome.
I don't think you understand what this word you use means.
>>78606271
Oh, I got another one!
>Sees Bombshell juggle live grenades
>pair of smoking boots
>Sees McGee laser-eyeing goons
>signs up for laser eye surgery
>>78605044
on the positive side, there was no mention of that retarded amnesia retcon thing they kept pushing for couple of years
>>78606490
The second one might work better with Cyclops.
>>78606490
>McGee
who?
>>78606203
When characters lose to show how great the villain is. Like how in the X-Men animated series Logan just gets his ass kicked every episode and yet is a huge badass.
>Western comics knowing how to create jobbers
Bow down to the true job creator
>>78606627
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Frank_McGee_%28Earth-616%29
>>78606560
Cyclops is NOT!!! LAZERS!, though.
>>78606697
shinji is the jobber king
or that other vizard who got killed because he explained every detail of his bankai
People get too riled up over worf and power levels, nobody has consistent victories. I don't care if you're superman, you're going to have a bad day and fuck up. Maybe batman sneezed and dropped a batbomb on a guy, whaddaya gonna do?
>>78606851
>Cyclops is NOT!!! LAZERS!, though.
That's the joke.
>>78606851
Ohbut frank only blinds people
>>78606919
He's supposed to know stuff about capes, though.
And Cyclops is pretty high-profile.
>>78606697
>Spend literally the entire series building up Kenpachi
>Finally unlocks his true power after one training fight that takes 20 chapters
>Becomes the most powerful shinigami whoever lived
>Immediately one shot in his first fight so that Ichigo can save him with his new power up
>Get one good win against Nightwing
>Get one-shot by Jason Todd
>Get literally shot in the ass by Harley Quinn
I'd say at least she's a jobber to the stars, but she's booked for Secret Six in a few months, so...
just doombot it, taskmaster lost on purpose because someone paid him more to lose than to win.
>>78606908
>or that other vizard who got killed because he explained every detail of his bankai
>First guy to get a hit on Aizen after every OP fucknut in the franchise has been failing for the past 3 years
>Knows he only has one chance at this
>Can literally end his pitiful existence at any point and be done with the arc
>Naaaah let's taunt him
>Why am I dying
>>78605168
>Rhino
Is it really jobbing when your entire job is to lose? Hes a low powered brawler usually shown to be dumb as a brick. The only way he could stop losing is if he was passed on as an enemy of a teen character.
>>78607065
>>78606987
>>78606908
You guys have yet to even scratch the surface that which is Bleach-jobbing.
I mean, imagine how long you can go on talking about this before even reaching Chad.
>>78606992
>Secret Six in a few months
isn't this title cancelled ?
>>78607162
Man, I feel so sorry for Chad. He always wins the first fight, and he gets the rush of being a winner, like "Yeah I can do this", and then he takes 2 steps toward and some final boss motherfucker turns up and wrecks his shit. He can never be allowed to enjoy a victory.
>>78607202
Not yet, sadly. It's dull as fuck.
Biggest punchline right here.
All this talk of characters being humiliated is making me feel down. Are there are example of reverse-jobbing?
>>78607296
you mean like a normal decent fight
>>78607319
No, more like a notorious jobber getting placed in a situation where he exists to show off the other character's prowess but instead completely destroys him.
>>78607296
That just means someone else is jobbing.
But comic fans generally have a hard ime that anyone could lose to anything but clearly superior foes.
Like fights on relatively even footing can't go either way with dumb luck.
>>78605156
My first introduction to Taskmaster was before he put on the suit. It was in a Daredevil comic, the King Pin was trying to take DD out and decided to outsource. TM was in a room talking to KP over a video conference, on the other screen is video footage of DD taking out goons using all these cool moves. Then the guy rewinds the film and does every single move exactly like Daredevil does in the video.
King Pin is like "Were you listening to me, or were you too busy?" to which Taskmaster replies "Every syllable, I will be in contact when I have decided the best course of action." and then he ends the call.
Was a badass introduction to a character that is awesome when he has the chance to stand on his own. He was one of the few things that was good about the whole avengers' initiative and camp "kids die here".
>>78604866
>>78604950
This isn't jobbing. This is exactly how someone like Taskmaster should be beaten - by things they can't logically predict. In this case, his own reflexes defeat him, as he basically blocks that kick in the best possible way... but the best possible way is not a good idea here.
If X-23 had totally out-fought him, that would be jobbing. This is just a character losing in a totally logical way.
>>78605019
>>78605019
Ive never seen the show, so idk how accurate this is, but apparently the term 'word effect' comes from how ds9s writers would constantly use words badassness to show that the villain of the week was dangerous by having them kick his ass or something
>>78608136
tng was far more guilty of the worf effect than ds9. worf was much more competent on ds9. plus he got laid more
>>78605433
>while silver surfer was there.
where he should be. Too many people over wank the surfer.
>>78608532
I thought power levels went
Galactus
Silver Surfer
everybody else
Galactus
>>78604866
He then gets shot in the knees.
>>78608100
Its been said earlier in the thread, but an experienced fighter would grab a kick by the ankle not the toes. Shit even try to grab someone's toes when they kick you and realize how easy it is to grab their leg.
>>78604866
I find /co/'s response to that exchange to be full exaggerated negativity and outrage. Seriously, context matters.
Laura kicked Tasky, Tasky blocked. Tasky kept talking because he "wasn't getting paid to fight Laura." He was attempting to talk her down and demonstrate why it would be pointless for the two of them to fight. He caught her foot, which demonstrated he would win because he could and would adapt to anything she had. He conveyed his nonchalant attitude, which meant that this was going beyond what he was paid to do. He reasoned with her, which brought home the point that he didn't want to participate in the whole good guy bad guy song and dance.
He got taken because he was the disinterested reasonable party. The was caught off guard while holding her foot and talking her down. She released the foot claw, sent him into a reactionary state where he screamed, and then she took advantage of that moment.
It was highly reasonable and plausible that something like that would happen. It's Taskmaster, not Hyperion or the Sentry. Calm down, guys. Goddamn.
>>78611137
/co/ must have opinions, or we're not happy.
Reading comprehension is beyond us.
Being considered almost as good as Batman but not actually being Batman is a terrible thing to be most of the time.
>>78611137
No one would give this much of a shit if he lost to a guy this way.
>>78606987
Did he ever get a bankai?
>>78605912
>>78605900
>>78605440
>>78608136
No, that was his role on tng.
On ds9, he was rehabilitated into the badass he was always SUPPOSED to be, but not allowed to actually demonstrate, given that he was pretty much ALWAYS, well, worfed, by the alien of the week.
Why is it so hard for Marvel to hire competent writers for female characters.
>>78611324
Funny thing is, Michael Dorn only signed up for DS9 on the condition that Worf was no longer used as the punching bag
>>78604866
Yeah, how the fuck would the Taskmaster of all people not expect Wolverine Jr. to pop a claw?
>>78607258
>talking shit about one of the only good supernatural new 52 comics
>>78611393
Guess he didn't know of her foot claws.
>>78611377
Because their female characters are getting praise now despite mostly being written poorly. Why change when people are mostly fine with what they have now?
>>78611393
They don't fucking care about quality of the book is a female lead. That's all it boils down to. I really wish people would just stop storytiming this shit. Any attention given to it is bad for the medium. Until they hire competent people to write women characters they shouldn't be supported.
>>78604866
Ok, so I am going to explain Jobbin to people on this thread, as it seem they don't get the word.
To have a character Job is to use a character to make another one look though. First the Jober is shown to be strong, or already known to be strong, and then he is easily defeated by some sort of new "tactic", "power", or altogether a new character. Henceforth this new whatever is known to be even thougher than the Jober.
Lets make clear that the jober can, and will, win minor fights, read as unimportant to the real plot, to make him able to complete his job.
>>78611318
TOP KEK
>>78607127
>>78606987
Well, yeah. I think the same thing about Kenpachi. Kenpachi has relatively little technique, honestly. He is Scrub-Lord, Supreme.
He insists on fighting in one way to satisfy his sense of machismo/masochism, and willfully ignores an easy, elementary method used by everyone on his team because his thing is being "Strong" and he insists on big dumb brick fights and bitch smacking people with his power.
If he wasn't such an obtuse jackass he would be much more effective because he you know, fought like a sane, reasonable person.
Except he doesn't because he's dumb as a brick. It just usually works because he's so retard strong.
Someone about as strong as him (virtually unheard of, but clearly exists) will naturally beat his stupid ass.
>>78611486
Part of his character is that he does the research and makes good use of preptime.
>>78611510
Yeah, I'm really disapointed with the comic, it's not that well written at all?
WTF would Alchemax hire X-23 to get her clones? It's obvious she would side with them against you. They could have just sent Tasky out in the first place.
>>78611298
They sure gave a shit when he jobbed to Moon Knight just a few years back.
>>78611568
Because it was done fucking awesome
>>78611310
Not yet. He got his true shikai though. It's just a really big sword with no special abilities. Also Yachiru disappeared when he used used his shikai, so she's probably his zanpakuto spirit.
Everyone keeps talking about how he's Marvel's favourite or how he's poushed into everything, but they always neglect to mention the fact that 90% of his appearances are him getting the ever-loving shit beaten out of him to show how tough the new guy is in a consequence free fashion.
>>78611137
>He caught her foot, which demonstrated he would win because he could and would adapt to anything she had.
except footclaws
Because when you're fighting someone named wolverine, you should never expect claws
It's like he tried to blindfold Cyclops' femClone
THAT'S how dumb it is.
And Laura isn't new enough for her footclaws to be unexpected. You get that advantage in MAYBE your first 4 or 5 outings, after that anyone who pays attention (like Taskmaster when he's assigned to fight your freakin' clones... and who clones clones?) knows your schtick.
If anyone went to fight a Spidey clone, do you think they would be surprised by webslinging and wall-crawling?
>>78611714
Actually, scratch that last bit. I suppose they would be slightly surprised by foot-webs
Everyone wonders why it's not butt-webs, no one suspects footwebs
>>78611546
>Someone about as strong as him (virtually unheard of, but clearly exists) will naturally beat his stupid ass.
It turns out at one point that he is literally the strongest shinigami whoever lived, but he fought Unohana as a kid and she was so ungodly powerful that he didn't want the fight to end and so placed a bunch of mental blocks on himself to make him a lot weaker, and the reason he gets a sudden power up whenever he gets fucked up is that one of blocks is removed when he nearly dies. It was kind of dumb.
>>78611809
You weeabos are speaking another fucking language.
>>78605341
I doubt it. Hell If I were him I wouldn't. Jesus christ though, 52+ cards per deck, and each of those cards hits like a truck.
Gambit is a beast.
>>78605565
Here's the thing about Taskmaster, he can beat nearly 100% of regular old joe heroes that don't have much if any super powers.
He can beat wolverine in a fight, but he doesn't have the same endurance.
So the only way this could've gone well is if Laura had a dedicated issue or two to fighting taskmaster, where she realizes this. If she can't be him via skill she has to fatigue him, only way it'd work.
>>78605732
That's because you can't. Artist had to work witha shit script because the writer didn't account for how someone would catch a booted foot like that.
Literally no one kicks like that, and he would've normally had to catch it from the side, IF he had to.
Why would he? Because a shit writer used Taskmaster without knowing anything about him other than he's a mercenary and I dun like him!!11!
Guy is a hack, artist had to do something stupid to accommodate.
>>78611876
It's called Japanese, you fucking gaijin.
>>78612071
You mean vocal moonrunes ?
>>78611137
>>78611298
it's actually weird that they say that he jobbed, when for all the fight he was shown to be learly stronger than Laura, casually blocking all her attacks and punching her while monologuing, and she instead was trying her hardest to hit him.
He just made a istake becaause he was havign such an easy time that he relaxed too much.
Now if they want to say that he shouldn't make mistakes ecause he's their most perfect and loved husbando who makes no mistake, that's their problem.
>>78604866
Taskmaster jobs all the time, or do you forget the time, Moonkinght had him crying like a bitch begging for mercy
>>78605085
This happened?
I call bullshit. He's been killing people since before Deadpool vol. 1. Why wouldn't he say "fuck"?
>>78606203
Jobbing is basically what makes the care bears win every time. When a villain just decides to go full retard at the critical moment that costs him the fight, then he's been jobbed.
Remember when Thanos let go of the cube?
>>78612474
Jobbing to his own stupidity
>>78608532
Nigga, Norrin's dived into black holes and stars without giving a shit. He's at like Flash level speed while also having ridiculously OP energy and matter manipulation powers. If anything, that dude doesn't get enough credit.
>>78612396
people like this edgy shit?
>>78612518
Somewhat relevant
>>78612396
>Taskmaster
>literally the best of them
>"all except the best of them"
What the fuck is going on? Why put taskmaster here? Seems like it could have been anybody in that panel.
>>78605074
>>78612549
>Doom gets cube arc
>opens with The Wall knocking the shit out of Spidey
If only.
>>78612622
taskmaster is not the best of them. That's the point that you fanboys keep missing.
He's almost as good, but not quite
>>78612747
I honestly thought Jess was with some hero dude I didn't know
Only the weird chest at the end tipped me off
>>78611318
Is he launching his eyeballs on a fountain of blood?
How?
>>78612938
He doesn't have the power of the PUNCH DIMENSION within his eyeballs so his body can't properly replicate the awesomeness of Optic Blasts
>>78612855
Taskmaster is a mirror image, a decent replica but he lacks their originality and that extra some thing.
He is not Rogue
What could of been.
>>78612518
Cheese and crackers!
>>78612549
Wall needs to be a regular villain.
>>78612541
>MFW Mastero vs. Silver Surfer
We need more pics of when writers actually remember how a character's power works.
Maybe it's his memory problems.
Taskmaster is honestly one of my favourite Marvel villains of all time and it bums me the fuck out the way he's been beaten into the fucking ground the past few years. That amnesia retcon thing, jesus h. christ
Taskmaster is a legit threat to anyone who doesn't have super-strength up the wazoo or some other world-class power and even then, it's possible for him to get the drop on them. His UDON solo series wasn't that great but they at least played up that he's smart, resourceful, and can think on his feet and adapt to a situation on the fly. Hell, the government hired him to train people at Camp Hammond because even though he's a criminal, he's that damn good. I wish more writers would respect that and not have him be a joke
>>78612396
In Taskmaster's defense, this was at a point where Moon Knight had gone full lunatic and wasn't long past having cut Bushman's face off. Which is what Taskmaster is afraid is going to happen to him here, and isn't exactly something that Taskmaster is used to the heroes he fights doing
>>78613758
OP's image is a reasonable case of Taskmaster losing. You can cry to high hell about how his block of the kick was incorrect, but X-23 has far superior reflexes to Taskmaster anyways.
It's also not inconceivable he would be beaten by her, as they've never fought each other before and she was trained as an assassin since birth. So that disadvantage + her skillset + her powers put her at a distinct advantage over Tasky.
Anyways, this is comics. Everybody jobs to everybody and sometimes it is worse than others. Not liking X-23 doesn't mean this is a terrible instance of Tasky jobbing. Namor loosing to Luke Cage or The Thing underwater, that is terrible. This is just convenient plot point where the writer didn't feel like dedicating 3 pages to a hardcore martial arts contest, which still wouldn't have satisfied Taskmaster fans.
>>78613911
>X-23 has far superior reflexes to Taskmaster anyways.
X-23 is a Wolverine clone, not a Spider-clone
>>78613911
>This is just convenient plot point where the writer didn't feel like dedicating 3 pages to a hardcore martial arts contest
>There will never be a 3-page Taskmaster fight scene drawn by David Aja
You're killing me here
>>78613969
>>78613969
Your point being? Spider-Man has the best reflexes on Earth, that doesn't mean he is the only one with great (re: super-human) reflexes.
X-23 does as well, as is mentioned often, including by Wolverine in their first fight at the end of Target Lost.
Taskmaster would have to be Daredevil levels of aware, or Spider-Man levels of fast, to have managed a perfect block. Grabbing her toes to prevent contact with his face is very likely the best he could manage.
>>78614120
Quick questions
Does he mention superhuman reflexes or just faster than him?
Because Logan's weighed down by adamantium... though I suppose that might have been a time when Wolverine was sans-metal skeleton...
>>78605194
Ah, a simpler time. When Jim Lee didn't draw like complete shit.
>>78611809
It wasn't a mental block, it was more like an unconscious limiter.
Think about when Superman is fighting and is holding back. It's like that, but more unconscious because Kenpachi WANTS his fights to last as long as possible. The conscious version of this is the power sealing eyepatch, of course, but Kenpachi had an unconscious limitation that he placed on himself that could only be gradually broken when brought to near death.
In the case of Unohana, the limiter was put on so that he could fight her forever. He just wanted to simply hold back and fight forever is all. It's no mental block, really.
>>78614183
Faster than him, though she has been faster than anybody she's fought.
She has his powers... without the adamantium skeleton. So her body is constantly peak everything.
It isn't like Wolverine is ever shown to be outrageously slow because of his skeleton so do the math.
>>78611318
I got this drawn for me
Does anyone have a rec image like pic related for Taskmaster?
>>78614600
Old Daredevil, Udon comic and The Initiative.
>>78614600
There is this one, but as you can notice there are lots of stuff missing, like that issue of the recent Ant-Man series and his appearances in Gail Simone's run of Deadpool.
>>78611551
Alchemax didn't hire her, she got tipped off by a reasonable less aggressive clone and she saved a family member of Alchemax, then they invited her so they could tag her and have her lead them to the rest of them
>>78615591
No love for Taskmaster: A Watery Grave?
>>78615591
Isn't Unthinkable the one that introduces all that former SHIELD agent can't-remember-his-wife bullshit?
>>78611137
Yep, only you are smart enough to get context and nuance, how do you even bear to walk among the /co/ commoners like this?
The context is that 1) blocking her kick by catching her foot is a poor strategy even against someone who doesn't have foot-claws, and 2) in all odds Taskmaster knew Laura had foot claws because its in his best interest to keep tabs on the superhero community. Grab the ankle, dodge the kick, swat the kick away with his shield - there were several better options but the writer went with the one that set up the easy win.
>>78611298
I don't know where this even came from. Nobody has *hinted* at it being a gender thing, some folks have specifically said they'd been fine with Laura winning just in a better manner than the ham-fisted way it was portrayed. Please stop jumping at sexism-shadows.
