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How did Marvel fuck this up so badly?
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How did Marvel fuck this up so badly?
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>>78550881

It wasn't a fuck up in my eyes because I thought it was going to be just as disappointing and boring as Hickman's build up to it in his Avengers run.
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Whor
Miles Morales
Kamala
Girl Captain America
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>>78551505
>Whor
Yeah
>Miles Morales
Maybe if a competent person ever wrote him
>Kamala
She gr8 m8
>Girl Captain America
Which one
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>>78551727
Beyond this event, Spider Verse and Spider Men, I haven't read anything featuring Miles, has anyone other than Bendis and Slott ever written Miles as a main character?
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>>78552104
all new ultimates and anad avengers. both shit
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>>78550881
They got Ribic on art and didn't expect it to take 9 months to finish.
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>>78552306
>Ultimates
I expect it to be shit
>anad
I take it back, I did read this, and he was shit, fuck....
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>>78552104
Well Miles appeared in Smug-Hulk. He only talked for 2 pages, but 2 pages makes me wish Greg Pak were writing him.
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>>78552549
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>>78552560
Too much well-toned cheesecake for the lad.
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>>78552528
>>78552537
>>78552549
>>78552560
>>78552578
Is this new Hulk comic good?
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>>78552893
Amadeus Cho has figured out how to turn into the Hulk and back. He's traveling around with his sister capturing gamma-iradiated monsters like pokemon while taking breaks to look at rude titties.

You tell me.
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>>78552935
This sounds fucking awesome
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>>78550881
I was so fucking hyped when I saw the Shadowline and new universe characters, I thought that they would actually be used for something after all of this time.

Thanks for nothing marvel.
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>>78553645
Some shadowline guys showed up in squadron sinister, they were killed pretty quickly but they still showed up.
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>>78552893
It is shit
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>>78552935
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By having a stupid concept to begin with?
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Art by Frank Cho. Pass.
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It's good

Delays have been bad
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>>78552935
>>78554604
What the fuck are rude titties?
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>>78557097
robbi pls go
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>>78550881
Hickman's been fired already, let it go
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>>78550881
Falcon cap
Whor
Miles
Black girl cap
Kamala(annoying)
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>>78552893
Yeah
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I remember /co/ loving this event before the new ANAD line-up revealed.

They only fucked up delay-wise. Other than that, the event is GOAT. Probably the best event coming out from Big Two in years. But you guys will pretend it's shit because you hate Marvel. It's a common fact.
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>>78557479
It's not really that Secret Wars is bad, but Hickman's pacing has, again, forced a rush ending.

I really enjoy Hickman's work, but he just cannot get his pacing correct.
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>>78557479
>Best Event in years
Ignoring Multiversity, Darkseid Wars, and any DC Event of course of course.
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>>78558202
I never said Multiversity or Darkseid Wars were any bad. I like Secret Wars better, personally.
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>>78551727
>>Girl Captain America
>Which one

Probably the one from 2099 that gave Hercules a speech about how to treat women that involved the line " how would your father feel?"

As if Zeus wasn't the god of rape
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>>78550881

Because they did what DC does all the time and did a retread. The original Secret Wars was great for it's time. There was not need to try going over the same ground.
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>>78557136
>robbi pls go

Seriously, I'm not buying anything that dude touches.
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>>78550881
>this event is still going on
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>>78558488
I'm still not entirely sure what the problem is with Robbi Rodriguez.

>>78558552
You act like this is something new. Civil War had tie-ins coming out long after it ended.
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Too big. All events since like 2000ish have been too sprawling and consequently muddled and inconsistent.
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>>78558202
>multiversity
Not an event.

>Darkseid Wars
Also not an event.

The only events DC has had since the New 52 started have been Forever Evil and Convergence. Everything else has just been high-profile story arcs in flagship books (Darkseid Wars, Zero Year), weeklies (Futures End; Worlds End), self-contained minis (Multiversity), and crossovers (Trinity War).

And of the two events they had, Convergence was garbage and way worse than Secret Wars. Forever Evil was solid though and much better than most Marvel events.
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>>78558790
>Convergence was garbage
I wonder why.
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>>78550881
They made it a Doomwank series.
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>>78558996
But that was the best thing about it.
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>>78558572
i wasn't really into comics when civil war came out
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They've been shitty and incompetent for a while now.
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>>78557097
Please die from the fumes from your hair dye, Robbi.
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>>78557161
He was? Why?
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I really enjoyed a lot of the tie-ins

Especially

E is for Extinction
Master of Kung Fu
Old Man Logan
Civil War
Renew Your Vows

They really wasted Scott as Phoenix and really Bendis is just a piece of crap with ignoring the direction of the X-Men in the build up I was really intrigued with the whole Nation X deal. Main story is meh, never been a big fan of the F4 they cane very boring
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>>78561956
Because he fucked up. He knows what he did.
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>>78562626
But most of Marvel writers fuck up and still keep their jobs!
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>>78562712
BENDIS
E
N
D
I
S
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>>78561956
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>>78550881
Yeah the Alex Ross art makes it like it was going to be this epic multiversal clash between worlds and then people banding together for and against the big bad.

But DC are the ones who do the good multiversal events, I guess Marvel should stick to their hero vs hero shit.
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>>78562808
>hey guys, I don't have an ending planned for this event! Ha ha ha! Isn't it funny?
>ha ha ha, of course it is! YOU'RE FIRED!
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>Hackman
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>>78551505
>I don't read comics
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>>78558790
>better than most Marvel events.
>most
All
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>>78550881
Delays.

I still enjoy it when it comes out but my hype is non-existent.
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>>78563510
It wasn't as good as Onslaught Saga to be quite honest desu fampai.
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>>78563588
Bit of a clusterfuck but I was only thinking of modern events from the last decade
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>>78564292
Forever Evil isn't better than Secret Wars

In fact /co/ is probably the only place on the internet that thinks Forever Evil is anything better than mediocre.
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>>78564326
Secret Wars is complete trash

>Issues 1-2 are just fighting
>Issies 3-6 NOTHING happens apart from exposition dumps
>Despite all the exposition a shitload of stuff happened in other books
>Issues 7-8 a fight is kinda getting underway
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>>78559201
No, Doom makes everything worse. Every comic he's in is shit, every movie, every TV show, he is literally the most awful thing in cape comics, worse than Batman. People only like him because he's an arrogant prick, and his retarded fans think he can do anything no matter how many times he fails.
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>>78550881
I personally just find it funny because we had comics coming out that take place after the end of Secret Wars BEFORE IT FINISHED
That's just fucking hilarious. How can I buy that it's a big, world-changing, status-quo shattering event if I already know that the world more or less returns to normal, and have visual proof of it?
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>>78561956
Because Hickman has been actively trying to get fired for ages. Just check his twitter.
Seriously, check out his twitter. He's a funny guy
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>>78565546
Shut up, Richards.
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>>78565656
>He's a funny guy
No he isn't, if he couldn't make his books fun.
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>>78565689
Seriously, look at his twitter. He spends a lot of time making fun of himself.
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>>78550881
too much decompression is bad
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>>78550881
they played it too safe

they had a vacuum in which they could do whatever off the wall stuff they felt like, and they played it safe.

spider-verse took more risks than it did
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>>78565675
And that's exactly it, Doom is supposed to be able to defeat gods with word games, has existed since the dawn of mankind, knows almost everything about everything, but a stretchy nerd keeps beating him. Doom is, and always will be, utter shit.
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>>78564326
/co/ also thinks Final Crisis and Flashpoint were good while the general public thinks that they're no different than Civil War and Ultimatum.
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>>78566433
>Final Crisis and Flashpoint were good
They were, casuals have shit taste
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>>78567243
You are the casual here.

Next, you'll defend Amazons Attack and Cry for Justice. Way to go sucking DC's cock.
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>>78567306
>Amazons Attack and Cry for Justice
Those are bad, not even comparable to those other stories though

>good world
>to the point
>good new characters
>good resolution and plot progression
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>>78552549

damn nigga that's kawaii
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>>78567356
>Everyone inconsistently dying
>Shit characterization
>''LE EVENT WARS XDDD''

Also

>>good resolution and plot progression
>>good world

LEL
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>>78567382
the hell is happening here.
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>>78550881
>delays
>nothing happening
>delays
>recap in the middle of the event
>"this totally cool thing happened but we'll talk about it instead of showing you"
>delays

Hickman can't do events and Marvel is dicking him over as well.
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>>78552578
that's right becky lynch, bludgeon asian hipster hulk.
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>>78557097
fuck off, robbi
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>>78550881
Marvel's war on men
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>>78562583
>Old Man Logan
why
how
why
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>>78550881

It was an awful idea from the start.
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