Do you guys remember this shit?
The live action programming was the dark age of Cartoon Network.
>>78419295
I'd remember it better if I could even see anything shit was so dark
>>78419295
yeah that was mostly awful(Destroy Build Destroy was pretty okay though, it reminded me of the old game shows that Nickelodeon used to make)
>>78419450
true, it got old quick though. I mean shit the title itself is repetitive
Damn paranoid Bostonians.
>>78419295
Wait, CN is not in the dark ages now?
>>78420498
>muh tumblr cartoons
>>78419295
This thread really puts into perspective how much of my life I've wasted here on 4chan. CN Real was still a thing when I started coming here.
>>78420498
Amazing World of Gumball is actually funny and relatable if youre an autist like us
>>78419489
Every time the bostonians do something stupid the whole world needs to revolve around them for some reason
>>78420498
CN renaissance m8
>>78419489
What did they do?
Has CN ever really recovered from this travesty?
>>78420730
Boston bomb scare
>>78420737
I would say so. They're still not as good as they used to be but they're a hell of a lot better than they were a few years ago.
>>78420739
and than when there was a real bomb no one gave a shit until it was to late
>>78420737
They could be. Just get rid of Teen Titans Go, and get rid of those stupid bumps with the autistic children screaming into the screen, and the annoying cartoon promos where they get a clip from the show and repeat and annoying sound from it for far too long than what is actually necessary.
>>78420748
They still lost a lot of good people in the process.
Fuck maybe if it didn't happen, WOY might've been on CN.
>>78419295
The only good live-action show they made was Tower Prep, and they canceled it despite good ratings
>>78419295
>the dark age of Cartoon Network
Are you trying to imply we've turned on the light since then?
They try to bring it back every so often, better get ready for round 3
>>78420498
>Original programming
>All cartoons
>All receive excellent ratings
No.
Chowder and Flapjack were the only good shows during this time
>>78419295
Why did they keep trying to push it when it clearly wasn't working?
>>78419295
b-but DESTROY BUILD DESTROY
>>78420498
I mean, even if you don't like shows like Steven Universe and TTG, you still have to admit it's better than the days of live-action shows that wouldn't make it past the first season and Pokemon Movie Marathon #57 while filling the gaps with reruns of actual good shows like Chowder or Flapjack
>>78421412
Tower Prep was my shit. I wish shows moving to Netflix only was a thing back then, because it probably would have made the switch and done well.
It would have made a great cartoon as well, but might have been compared to Morning Glories if they had made it a comic.
>>78421412
It had good ratings, but the only ratings CN cares about is young boys. There were "too many" girls watching the show
>>78420739
How is a bomb scare responsible for CN Real?
DUDE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE ALL SUCKED EACH OTHER'S DICKS
>>78422162
It made the CEO step down, allowing Snyder to step in and shove CNReal down our throats.
>>78422192
WE'D ALL MARVEL AT OUR INEXPERIENCE IN THE WORLD OF ORAL SEX.
>>78422162
>Boston freaks out
>Jim Samples resigns because of the controversy
>Stuart Snyder takes over
>get shit like Out of Jimmy's Head and Fried Dynamite
>>78422005
I admittedly am just a simple corn farmer and don't know much about big city marketing, but when they're focus testing these shows in the first place, do they not bring girls in as well? If it seems to be popular with both genders during testing, why not just toss in at least one gender neutral advertiser for the show? Or do they have marketing agreements done well before the focus testing stage?
>>78422202
>>78422210
Have things improved since Stuart Snyder was fired?
>>78422222
dem digits!
>>78422217
>DINI: "That's the thing, you know I hate being Mr. Sour Grapes here, but I'll just lay it on the line: that's the thing that got us cancelled on Tower Prep, honest-to-God was, like, 'we need boys, but we need girls right there, right one step behind the boys'—this is the network talking—'one step behind the boys, not as smart as the boys, not as interesting as the boys, but right there.' And then we began writing stories that got into the two girls' back stories, and they were really interesting. And suddenly we had families and girls watching, and girls really became a big part of our audience, in sort of like they picked up that Harry Potter type of serialized way, which is what The Batman and [indistinct]'s really gonna kill. But, the Cartoon Network was saying, 'F***, no, we want the boys' action, it's boys' action, this goofy boy humor we've gotta get that in there. And we can't—'and I'd say, but look at the numbers, we've got parents watching, with the families, and then when you break it down—'Yeah, but the—so many—we've got too many girls. We need more boys.'"
>DINI: "And then that's why they cancelled us, and they put on a show called Level Up, which is, you know, goofy nerds fighting CG monsters. It's like, 'We don't want the girls because the girls won't buy toys.' We had a whole… we had a whole, a merchandise line for Tower Prep that they s***canned before it ever got off the launching pad, because it's like, 'Boys, boys, boys. Boys buy the little spinny tops, they but the action figures, girls buy princesses, we're not selling princesses.'"
>>78422222
Quints say yes
>>78422236
That is so shitty. Do kids even want action figures anymore? It seems like kids of both genders want tshirts and mobile games of stuff these days versus action figures anyway?
>>78421845
>chowder
>flapjack
>good
How long was I away for?
>>78422615
Chowder is arguable, but Flapjack is GOAT anon
>>78420498
They aired Delgo, Anonymous.
Delgo.
>>78422647
>tfw modern CN won't air Foodfight
>>78421526
If anything, CN is worse than before.
>>78422222
There's too much TTG reruns. Other than that, it's alright. Still waiting for the CN Upfront in March.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHjFWvQt5QU
>>78422715
>Implying that's it's still bad
>>78422568
I work in retail and yes kids like action figures, the top sellers for boys are of course wwe, and various superhero ips. and the girls it's monster high, and all the monster high rip off stuff (descendants, and that other 'kids of storybook charaters line') and then disney princess/barbie. what's funny to me is it's not hard to market something to girls, I mean when your top seller is a two headed zombie doll thats out selling the princess stuff I think it's clear these tv execs have their heads up their asses.
besides you don't have to sell them dolls, the girls like the monster high stuff because a lot of their toys aren't so much dolls, but a creative activity toy.
>>78422728
What is CN Upfront?
>>78422217
>>78422236
What I will never understand is that they tried so hard to copy Disney and Nick they missed one key fact; most of the money Nick and Disney makes is off tween girls. Yet, CN was too focused on boys to actually make CN Real work like it's competitors. In other words, they couldn't follow the leader right. No wonder CN Real was doomed to fail.
>>78422762
It's when CN announces their new shows, specials and miniseries for the year. In the last upfront, we found out about the SU/UG crossover and the Stakes miniseries, plus WBB and The Royals.
>>78422743
Just looked up the real Christina Miller.
She looks good.
>>78422809
If only she didn't have such a hard on for TTG.
>>78422744
It's still very bad. At least back then we had Tower Prep and Unnatural History.
>>78422795
Thanks man.
>>78422832
De nada.
>>78422827
All cause of teen titans go?
>>78421845
>Chowder and Flapjack
I...I think those were the only CN original cartoons on back then.
>>78422867
TTG is actually pretty good.
>>78422975
I like it too, just asking though.
Remember me, /co/?
When I killed your network?!
I TALK JUST. LIKE. THIS!
>>78422975
It would be decent if CN didn't rerun it so much
>>78422753
>besides you don't have to sell them dolls, the girls like the monster high stuff because a lot of their toys aren't so much dolls, but a creative activity toy.
Exactly. I know as a kid, I got mainly Barbies but the ones I liked were the ones that actually did stuff like swam, painfully gave birth, or played basketball. MH and EAH are similarly fun because they're all unique, with fun backstories, and there's bound to be one, a girl relates to.
>>78423012
Snyder's run was really weird; he nearly killed the network with all the live action, then he caused a Renaissance by taking a chance with AT and by the time he left, CN had more or less recovered.
I don't know how to feel about him.
>>78419295
That was rock bottom. Nothing before or after this will ever come close to how awful CN was at the time.
>>78423104
>Caused the Renaissance.
Nope. We're in the 2nd animation dark age at the moment.
>>78423126
We're really not
I really don't understand the hate for Snyder. He pulled CN out of the mid-aughts slump. Pic related, that's what they were like right before Snyder got there. Also, Samples started the live-action with the Re animated movie in very late 2006.
Why do people hate Stu snyder, when Jim samples was the one who got rid of very good shows like
>Toonheads
>Gundam wing
>Looney Tunes
>The Chuck Jones Show
>Sailor Moon
>Dexter's Lab
>Courage the cowardly dog
And replaced them with total and utter shit like
>Squirrel boy
>Totally spies
>Code Lyoko
>Kids Next Door
>Foster's Home for imaginary friends
>Ben Ten
>My gym partner is a monkey
>Camp lazlo
???
>>78423126
90's fag
>>78423150
>Mediocre, bland CGI Dreamworks and Dreamworks-lite movies everywhere, even from Disney.
>LOLRANDUM and shitty-looking cartoons everywhere.
>Just about no action cartoons with most of them being shit. Also adult animation is ONLY used for comedies.
>Saturday morning cartoons are dead.
>Japan and Europe are still skating circles around us.
Maybe we'll get out of it in 20 years from now.
>>78423126
I'll bite; what makes this a dark age?
>inb4 tumblr
>>78423198
>>LOLRANDUM and shitty-looking cartoons everywhere.
Buzzword
>>78423198
>>Saturday morning cartoons are dead.
Yes, 30 minute toy commercials that have been dead since CN started showing original cartoons are now. How will animation ever recover.
>>78423198
Your a oldfag aren't you. You probably that guy who whines about how this generation sucks, 90's faggot
>>78423170
My thoughts on the matter:
>>78423104
>>78423198
>Also adult animation is ONLY used for comedies.
It's always been that way.
>>78423170
I think Betty Cohen is the only head of CN with no fuck ups on her record.
>>78423170
>Camp lazlo
>Utter shit
U wot m8?
>>78423170
Half of those shows you call "utter shit" are my favorite shows.
I remember, back when Flapjack was still being produced, Thurop Von Orman was very vocal on his Deviant Art page about how CN Real was failing spectacularly. He also mentioned, at one time, that a name change for the channel was being planned before the block failed. Thank god.
>>78422768
This, how could CN execs be so bad at making money and why did it take so long for Snyder to get fired?
>>78422236
Begining of the interview
DINI: "They're all for boys 'we do not want the girls', I mean, I've heard executives say this, you know, not [where I am] but at other places, saying like, 'We do not want girls watching this show."
SMITH: "WHY? That's 51% of the population."
DINI: "They. Do. Not. Buy. Toys. The girls buy different toys. The girls may watch the show—"
SMITH: "So you can sell them T-shirts if they don't—A: I disagree, I think girls buy toys as well, I mean not as many as f***ing boys do, but, B: sell them something else, man! Don't be lazy and be like, 'well I can't sell a girl a toy.' Sell 'em a T-shirt, man, sell them f***ing umbrella with the f***ing character on it, something like that. But if it's not a toy, there's something else you could sell 'em! Like, just because you can't figure out your job, don't kill chances of, like, something that's gonna reach an audi—that's just so self-defeating, when people go, like… these are the same fuckers who go, like, 'Oh, girls don't read comics, girls aren't into comics.' It's all self-fulfilling prophecies. They just make it that way, by going like, 'I can't sell 'em a toy, what's the point?'
>>78423493
Your nostalgia is bad. What are you, 18?
>>78423170
>kids next door
>foster's home
>camp lazlo
>utter shit
I do believe I'm triggered.
>>78422202
to be fair, jim samples picked up Out of Jimmys Head so he started the whole LA thing.
>>78422222
the schedule is fucking shit right now (too much TTG reruns and constant screwing over of AT, RS, SU, and Clarence), but all the shows are pretty good
>>78422816
that's this guy
http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/vishnu-athreya-named-vice-president-of-program-scheduling-at-cartoon-network-1201242094/
>>78423729
Here in France's CN we don't seem to have that problem. TTG isn't on that often
>>78423714
No, i do watch other thing you know. It's just that those are shows that I used to watch.
>>78423761
>>78421635
>All cartoons
You mean one cartoon, Teen Titans Go, because that's all this network shows now
>>78423865
I honestly fail to see how TTG warrants so many marathons and blocks dedicated to it. Not even Johnny Test was this bad.
>>78419295
>do you remember
Nigga, it was like a year or two ago
Or not,
>>78420526
Jesus it does
>>78423950
More like 5-6 yrs ago
>>78423935
Because the younger demographics like it.
It doesn't take too much to entertain most kids, and sometimes teenagers, if they're bland enough.
Just throw them anything with colors and a fast pace, and you're gold. It doesn't matter if adults don't enjoy it, because they're not the target.
Remember when Stuart Snyder was in charge of CN, and he had so many bullshit reasons for having shows cancelled and taken off the air, like how girls aren't allowed to like action cartoons, and over paltry shit like merchandising, even if the show's getting good ratings?
It's slightly like that, except with adults, and not nearly as bad as it was. A fair amount of CN's other shows can appeal to adults more than kids, like Regular Show anddepending on your tastes and opinionsSteven Universe.
So TTG would be like the attraction to get kids to watch the channel, if they're attention span's too short to enjoy anything else on the network.
Don't hate me but I actually liked unnatural history when i was younger was sad when it was cancelled.
>>78424652
[Spoiler]so did I anon, so did I[Spoiler]
>>78422647
>They aired Delgo, Anonymous.
>Delgo.
Dear Mother of God...... How far the mighty has fallen.
>>78423935
Every single other show they have is in a hiatus. They keep doing these week long "bomb" specials to pump out episodes, but because of the breakneck speed shows will have 1 or 2 weeks of this and then vanish for months. TTG is the cheapest, easiest show to produce by a long shot that gathers not-shit ratings, so they're keeping with it.
It premiered two years ago and already has ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE fucking episodes. The people behind it acted like assholes to fans of the original, but at this point they're zombified and wish to die.
>>78419295
if you don't think "Dude, what would happen" was the tightest shit, then get the fuck outta my face
>>78423170
wow, such shit taste, clearly b8
>not liking:
>Squirrel boy
>Totally spies
>Code Lyoko
>Kids Next Door
>Foster's Home for imaginary friends
>Ben Ten
>My gym partner is a monkey
>Camp lazlo
>>78419469
>>78419450
That shit was so abysmal not even Andrew WK could save it.
I'm glad this happened just as I was moving on from cartoons as a kid
>>78422827
>At least back then we had Tower Prep and Unnatural History
I don't think I've seen an opinion this bad in a long time.
I didn't even know there were people willing to defend CN's live action shit.
>>78426422
to be fair, every show they seem to be picking up or renewing nowadays is having a 52 episode season order (except Gumball) so I wouldn't be surprised if WBB had as much episodes in 2 years. WBB is the only other show that seems to have new episodes weekly right now, but they have bombs too
>>78421845
> mean, even if you don't like shows like Steven Universe and TTG, you still have to admit it's better than the days of live-action shows that wouldn't make it past the first season and Pokemon Movie Marathon #57 while filling the gaps with reruns of actual good shows like Chowder or Flapjack
How about no. I despise this new version of TTG with passion.
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>>78419295
>Why does it still hurt, plank?
>Why do I have to remember?
>Make me forget.
>Make me forget it all.
>>78422236
>FFFFFuck.
This all makes sense now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33I5zKr6HDw
>>78421803
I assume probably because they already had money put into a lot of the CNReal projects and they didn't want to waste the funds, so they pushed them out in the hopes that they'd stick.
