So how "flawed" is Steven Universe?
This youtube.com/watch?v=Hc8Oin4De6s was posed last thread and I pretty much agreed with mostly everything. The crying and "feels" feel forced many times. I don't remember the last time SU made me GENUINELY feel bad for these characters
Stop shitposting. You've already made 3 retarded threads today with the same goal in mind. Go spend time with your loved ones. Its christmas. Have a good day.
It gets pretty awful. Especially in the episode when Connie was training with Pearl and she shouted "JUST LET ME DO THIS FOR YOU ROSE". Completely cringe.
>>78416272
41 minutes? Fuck that
>>78416412
Holy fuck was that awful
>>78416419
It doesn't really say anything that the shows detractors haven't been saying for a while. This was posted 7 months back don't know why people just took notice to it.
>>78416452
>>78416412
Why was it awful exactly?
>>78416455
>This was posted 7 months back don't know why people just took notice to it.
Because /sug/ doesn't exist on /co/ ATM, allowing SU threads I presume
The episode were Steven fused with connie was really uncomfortable
>>78416491
Ah yes "SU" threads ;^)
>>78416479
It was forced and blatantly tried to spell out the tone and intention of the scene to the viewer.
>>78416516
These threads have actually been discussing the show though. Way better than /sug/
>>78416272
I lasted till about 1:40.
>>78416517
> forced
Nope completly in character for pearl considering her role and back story in the show which was also built up through the song.
> blatantly tried to spell out the tone and intention of the scene to the viewer
Yes.
>>78416535
Ah ok I gotcha. :^))))))))
>>78416535
Yes, I have saw the general's.....there just image dumps.
Anything with Connie is just painful, because she's the blatant creator self-insert. Yeah, Pearl might bear some of her actual quirks, but Connie's blatant wish-fulfillment.
>>78416592
So Sugar wants to be brown?
>>78416272
I'm not watching that video but I totally agree with the forced "feels" especially in anything involving Greg.
>>78416568
Why so salty/sug/?
>>78416272
Fuck off /sug/
>>78416535
I disaree. Those last two threads were the worst things I've seen all month and only proves how autistic the people on this site are.
>computer voice
Is it so hard to read a fucking script?
Time for Simulation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7gqcGXTfBA
>>78416657
Fuck off tumblrfag.
>>78416625
No, Sugar wants to diddle Steven who is based on her brother.
>>78416734
Now this is the content I want to see!
>>78416272
>People still whining that a pearl is mourning over the loss of the one person who meant more to her than everything else
>Not understanding that the gems didn't really mourn Rose and rather just shut themselves off from each other
>Steven is breaking through this shit unintentionally forcing them to accept Rose is gone rather than just ignoring it
>Combined with the stress of a possible invasion from a group that want to capture you at best and kill you at worst
Come the fuck on. There is a fucking reason why these characters are crying.
>>78416734
fuck no
this is a gumball thread
>Returning to Steven Universe, all we really know about Amethyst at first is that she's a goofball who eats a lot and doesn't like authority. That's about all we get up until 'On the Run', where suddenly we're supposed to accept that she's this flawed character with a tragic past. There's nothing in previous episodes to support that idea. We'd previously seen that she likes to butt heads with Pearl, but that isn't unexpected since their personalities clash. What 'On the Run' does is cheapen a character with the clumsiest and most abrupt delivery of her background that you could possibly manage, all for the sake of drama.
bruv's pretty spot on for the show's flaws
>>78416548
Being in character doesn't make it not forced. Its more heavy handed than all the anime that tried to ape Evangelion
>>78416272
Emotionally distraught girls cry over everything.Source: grill
It's kind of refreshing, yet a little annoying that no one tells any character to "stop feeling sorry for themselves". I hope Steven fills that role later... or some other gem/character.
>>78416799
But the shows from Stevens perspective. The gems actively try to hide their past.
>>78416775
>There is a fucking reason why these characters are crying
Gravity Falls had just as many emotional moments as Steven Universe, yet is way more natural on when characters cry.
>>78416795
Thanks for the wallpaper m8
>>78416837
Oh please that muh feels flashback in the last episode was the most ham fisted thing I've seen all year.
>>78416846
>those nipples
>>78416861
Yet still less hamfisted than the crying in episodes like Island Adventure and On the Run
>>78416884
Well since you said it, it must be true.
I don't think the feels are forced at all. If you're looking for things to get pissed off about, sure I guess, but I ragged on it for months about it being tumblr shit, then eventually watched with an open mind and got hooked.
Pearl a best. Saltiness and all.
>>78416900
I know. Thats why its true because I can actually look at both shows critically and call out when they're shallow as fuck
>>78416833
What does that matter? His point's the characters only show any depth in episodes like that where you are expected to feel sad at their past when they aren't made relateable in the more toned down episodes so that you'll care in the serious eps
I don't get why anyone would like this show.
>>78416592
The worst thing about Connie's character is that she's cliche, and whatever parts aren't cliche are basically boring.
>>78416934
I don't think you're expected to feel sad at pearl. Her torment is pretty entertaining if you ask me. And her loyalty to rose is referenced in a bunch of episodes. It's a big part of who she is.
>>78416944
When its not focusing on forced drama its pretty good. Too bad 80% of the show past S1 is forced drama
>>78416934
Also I said that because dice the shows from Stevens perspective, somethings are going to appear abruptly. The gems don't want him to know about this beforehand so why should the be any indication of it?
>>78416985
Nope. It was always shit. Go back to tumblr.
>>78416916
There's been like three of these threads, all shitposting. Save your sincerity, it's Christmas Eve.
I just rewatched Akira with my mom. Felt pretty good, she really enjoyed it. What've you done this evening, anons?
>>78416985
I mean I get how SOME people wouldn't find it interesting, the same way I don't like crime shows because I'm simply not interested in the subject matter. A lot of what people like about SU are the character designs, art style, etc. It's not always about the content, or originality, or Vince Gilligan levels of writing because it is a show for teenagers.
>>78416970
I always liked connie. Its amusing to have the outside view of the gem stuff from a "normal" kid. I do think her becoming a sword fighter is a bit of bullshit.
>>78417012
This. A decade of bottling up your emotions followed by trying to keep Steven from seeing it is why we dont see any of this. Even if we did see it all we would get is people like >>78416985 bitching because they cant handle character drama.
>>78417039
I had kind of a bad night. Was gonna watch Star Wars but 10 mins in I realized I don't feel like sitting through it right now and would rather play in the /sug/ ballpit I guess.
>>78417070
>cant handle character drama.
*poorly done
>>78417039
I cleaned the lobby at the McDonald's I work at during closing.
People kept trying to use the drive-thru after we closed everything down.
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>>78416976
You don't honestly think that the prissy writers expect you to feel schadenfreude at the suffering of the poor bird looking lesbian rock instead of going 'poor baby'
>>78417012
And it's not just things being brought up abruptly. That's bad enough as it is, but there's nothing to get you CARING about them. They're just weird women who are serious/neurotic/playful, who don't have any endearing traits unless it's one of their episodes about their past where you're supposed to feel sad about it.
If you're going to go oh it's from Steven's perspective again, then I'm just going to assume the gems are awful because there's no connection to the character unless the episode is directly focused upon. This is not good
>>78416272
Ehh I like SU because its like DBZ fanfiction with a lot of slice of life mixed in. I have no idea why anyone would get so fucking worked up over it.
Jesus all the venom against it's like with "that show that must not be named" but I don't see a whole lot of SU images everywhere like with that show.
>>78417070
>I do think her becoming a sword fighter is a bit of bullshit.
It's literally the coolest thing about her so far. And it kind of is hamfisted bullshit, not in defense of the shitposting.
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>>78417111
>>78417160
Are you talking about My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic? Because the hate for that show is dumb, too.
>>78417012
The problem comes with the fact that Steven wants to know about the gems, yet never actually asks them about anything. Logically, he would want to sit down with them an ask him about their past and his mom yet that never happens
>>78417183
Sorry you disagree.
>>78417150
I feel bad for Pearl, *because* she is embarrassing. Going rogue goes against her design and she can't adjust well at all. She is the autist of the show, not a woobie.
>>78417175
Like I said I prefer her being the "sane" view of everything that goes on.
>>78417184
A bunch of autistic faggots spammed 4chan with the images day and night which took it from a board wide hatred to a site wide hatred. Then the autism rainbow latched onto the show and its all history from there.
>>78417184
I think most people are just sick of the hype because it's psyops levels of stupid. Hating the show on it's own would be like hating Sesame Street or something on that level.
>>78417213
Would you feel that without her episodes?
If you removed the exposition episodes about their poor sad pasts and you only had LIGHT episodes to go on, would you feel ANYTHING for the Gems? Interest does not count, from their appearance in the light episodes where it's just a silly conflict, is there anything about their portrayal that makes them interesting?
>>78417160
Eh, I'm convinced the vast majority of SU haters have never actually seen the show. It's just the current trendy thing to shitpost about, all the kewl kidz are doing it. Genuine reasoned criticisms of the show are out there, but they have to be dug up from under a mountain of "Faggit SJW tumblr shit! Dyke space rocks!".
It's just part of the greater trend of dumbass kids posting stuff that will make them cringe with embarrassment someday. 4chan seems to exist, at least partly, for them to get it out of their systems.
>>78417287
I just think that's a needlessly overanalytical approach. If you are just explaining why it's not exactly the pinnacle of creative writing, I don't mind letting you have that. I've sat through much worse.
this thread is broken mang
>>78417353
In their defense, at face value, it does look like it was developed by mostly militant body positivity lesbians. Who knows, maybe it was. But anyone who actually gives the show a chance, a real chance, is doing more than most shitposters.
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>>78417287
Without her pic related episodes I would see her as a caring mother figure with OCD who really tries her best with Steven and would care about her.
>>78417380
>overanalytical
Right.
You and me are 'buddies', but when we hang out, I'm just a stick in the mud who doesn't really do anything. We don't really have good times together. So, ff I go to with you about my problems and tell you about my problems with cruel women or whatever, you probably shouldn't care because I haven't really endeared myself to you
>>78417287
i like those episodes though. The best thing about them is that they carry on to other episodes and effect the story and plot.
>>78417455
Hey, I dunno who you think you are in the first place, guy.
It only appears flawed if you can't pick up on subtle storytelling elements.
>>78417502
I think he is some sort of worthless tripfag pal
>>78417511
>subtle storytelling elements.
weak b8
>>78417517
Looks swims and quacks like one.
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>>78417502
Apply it to the mineral muff munchers dingus
>>78416272
>text to speech
le we r legon we du not forbive we du nut forgit
>>78417455
What so pearl just stands there doing nothing whenever she's not sad then?
>>78417566
>all girls are lesbians when you point a gun at them
>>78417527
It ain't bait. After reading the most lucid critique it's clear the people who dislike it just can't pick up on subtle character development, so when the dramatic moments arrive they appear sudden to them, even though they've been heavily foreshadowed.
>>78417617
Basically. She doesn't say or do anything really interesting, does she? Pearl is around in episodes that don't focus on serious business, but there's no shenanigans surrounding her actions and speech that is not meant to invoke drama
>>78417662
>subtle character development,
Aside from Steven, who?
>>78417663
Pearl is the most frequent character in the show, sans Steven.
>>78417663
Are you kidding me? Do you know how many memes have been born from pearls strange behavior and antics?
>>78417682
Because pearl is the white gem silencing the GOC :^)
>>78417680
I know garnet becomes more open and caring as the show goes one. More talkative and willing to let others take risks and action where she would have shut them down before. She is also far more likely to take advice now than she did at the beginning of the series.
>>78417663
Dont you know anything about birdmom?
>>78417682
And what does she do that is endearing to you as the audience when she is frequently around and not the focus? You know all the episodes where Steven is messing around with the humans, there's nothing equivalent for the gems to show them off without any exposition about their pasts
>>78417725
>I know garnet becomes more open and caring as the show goes one. More talkative and willing to let others take risks and action where she would have shut them down before
Didn't that like, happen exactly after her reveal in Jailbreak? If anything, it was so sudden and jarring its barely development.
>>78417680
Literally all of the main gems.
Character traits and flaws are established early on for all the major characters which foreshadow their eventual emotional episodes.
>>78417741
>>78417741
Please watch the show before commenting on it.
>>78417757
If you watch from the beginning she opens up fairly early on but future vision, jail break, and keystone motel are the three episodes that have Steven getting closer to her and learning more about who she is. Each of these three episodes is followed by Garnet immediately opening up more due to their bond deepening.
>>78417760
>Character traits and flaws are established early on
None of those flaws really come into existence until they are actually are brought up. Until Maximum Capacity, Amethyst didn't even really show signs of self loathing. Garnet hasn't really shown any flaws except "not listening 100% of the time." After Ocean Gem Pearl's character took a complete 180 to where she went to the prim and proper know-it-all who was actually able to devise plants to an unsure wreck.
>>78417797
They watched it, they don't want to like it, they just want to shitpost.
Time to get off your high horse tripfuck. Your opinion is as worthless as the rest of em. Try again tomorrow.
>>78417827
Amethyst showed self loathing since tiger millionare.
Pearl's strange behavior was shown when she saw roses garden overrun by those thorns which also foreshadowed her connection with rose.
>>78417781
Moments like that don't really pile up. They're just that, 'moments' before Steven goes off to do whatever on his own and not a persistent thing throughout any individual episode. I've repeated this like ten times now, but there are not any episodes where a gem is around just for the sake of something fun. The closest one to that was Tiger Millionaire early on, which was a good one that had a fun premise and showed off Amethyst without making it just ten minutes of conflict about how she feels worthless and also had Pearl and Garnet goof around at the end to make her feel better.
There aren't enough eps like that in the show. It's exactly what there needs to be more of
>>78417864
>Amethyst showed self loathing
I give you this but it didn't have much to do with her actually disliking herself and more of the gems not letting her BE herself
>Pearl's strange behavior was shown when she saw roses garden overrun by those thorns which also foreshadowed her connection with rose.
But that doesn't really have anything to do with her self-loathing and random bursts of emotional behavior that happens starting with Space Race. Pearl feels like her character took a life turn during Season 1B out of nowhere.
>>78416272
Garnet's speech in future vision actually made me cry and go hug my mom.
>>78417905
There's plenty of these moments sprinkled throughout the show anon.
>>78417827
I do not have the time to go through every early episode and point out each minor character interaction that foreshadows these specific traits. In general, Amethyst showed signs of self-loathing since Tiger Millionaire, Garnet was shown to be imperfect since Arcade Mania, and Pearl was always a high-strung perfectionist who romanticized Rose Quartz and the war to an unhealthy degree.
>>78416799
Someone didn't see Tiger Millionaire(one of the early episodes that clearly established her as an outsider)
>>78417913
Since the series began pearl has always been shown as a strict, OCD character. Things just ramped up when they realized threats were ariving.
>>78417961
>Garnet was shown to be imperfect since Arcade Mania
Really? That episode made it super vague what exactly was happening to her and made it seem like it was out of her control.
>>78417974
>Since the series began pearl has always been shown as a strict, OCD character
Thats what im saying. Its that they changed her character halfway through season 1 instead of it being gradual.
>>78417150
>You don't honestly think that the prissy writers expect you to feel schadenfreude at the suffering of the poor bird looking lesbian rock instead of going 'poor baby'
Given it's derived from Sailor Moon and Utena, yes, absolutely yes. This shouldn't be surprising in the least.
>>78417905
The characters do things like this all the fucking time anon. Jesus christ you people are so adamant on focusing on their crying you completely miss everything inbetween.
>>78418019
Like I said--they cannot grasp subtle characterization.
>>78417988
Adding things to a character is not changing a character. Pearl did not change, she was simply given more detail.
Garnet's flaw is less obvious than the other gems, but that episode establishes that she can become overly fixated on whatever challenge is in front of her and lose sight of what's important.
>>78418080
>she can become overly fixated on whatever challenge is in front of her and lose sight of what's important.
so when has this happened again?
>>78418220
Future vision, keystone motel.
Season 1 was fantastic, sure it took a while to get going but as soon as the drama hit, it hit hard.
I'm not enjoying season 2 nearly as much though. I'm not totally sure why but it might be a few different reasons. No more mystique, too many characters, heavy-handed drama, etc. I think that introducing the homeworld gems as villains and explaining so much of the lore was a mistake. My favorite parts of Steven Universe are the family elements. I like seeing the Crystal Gems struggling to raise Steven properly. In the second season they haven't been guiding him as much; it comes across like Steven is the only one who can heal and reform the homeworld gems, but the Crystal Gems don't really seem interested in helping him do that or even warning him of the danger. The show really stopped focusing on the relationship between Steven and his three moms.
>>78417961
You can also add the birthday episode as an example of their flaws and how they'll fall apart when a situation is beyond their control.
>>78417757
she was getting more open with him in several episodes before that, but Steven learning her big secret pushed that further. they understand each other much better than they use to.
Now he's one step closer to replacing Garnet as the leader by filling the rose shaped hole in the group.
>>78418220
Basically any time she hurts someone's feelings or ignores the negative consequences of her decisions.
I disagree.
>>78416272
Can someone link me to more stuff like that video?
>>78416662
Yes, when you're 14.
>>78418285
I disagree. Their relationships are stronger than ever.
>>78416272
41 fucking minutes of some shitbrain autist's diatribes dictated by text-to-speech software? Holy shit, no thank you.
Can anyone give me the bullet points of what this retard's argument is, or is it all just a bunch of horseshit?
>>78418363
Basically characters cry alot so the show is bad. Also Steven looks ugly.
>>78418357
it's not about how strong their relationships are, it's about what is being shown in the show
I liked it better when their relationships where tumultuous and the focus of the show was learning to live together.
>>78418307
anyone have that text-to-speech homestuck review
>>78418404
So....
>>78418390
Thank you, sir. You saved me a good 39 minutes of hell.
>>78418437
Yeah, I liked that part of Season 2 but the biggest problem is that Steven didn't really need to be there. In season 1 the issue was always "how do we be good moms for Steven?" but season 2 is mostly about how gems relate to each other.
>>78418482
But the conflict of that episode was resolved because ruby and Sapphire realized that they were affecting steven and decided to make up to appease him.
>>78417249
>>78417263
MLP hasn't been spammed in years, get over it. Still being upset about it is like having PTSD over Ruby Gloom.
>>78418575
Nigger I was only saying that is why people freaked out about it back then. I don't give a fuck about colorful horses in candyland.
I miss you/sug/
>>78418615
1 week anon.
I mean sug is in trash I'd you really that desperate right now.
>>78416272
Roadside Attraction has more feminist bullshit in it than the entire series of Steven Universe.
>>78418630
nah, those guys are faggots
best ones are the ones that come out for the talkback thread
some of the hiatus SU threads are so fucking bizarre
I just wanna nerd out about the show, not do weird and faggy crossovers with shows I have no interest in
>>78416985
define forced drama? because, it seems to me, that all drama is constructed. none of it flows organically, because it is a scripted show, not a reality show. every show is written to evoke emotions from its audience. Even the news is often designed to make you feel something. if it feels fake that's because it's not delivered smoothly. I don't get why you would call it "forced", though
>>78417150
yes, you absolutely are. I have watched maybe half of the show, and I can tell you aren't supposed to completely sympathize with any of the characters. They try, and fail, and make mistakes, and that's fine. but, sometimes, they just go and fuck things up. Pearl driving Connie to be a mindless meat shield for Steven was wrong, and she knew it. She deluded herself into thinking she was doing the right thing because admitting that it was wrong would be admitting she had wasted her life being a dog for Rose, rather than a friend. People do that: they lie to themselves, and then lie to others to keep from admitting to the lie. its wrong. people are wrong, and Pearl was wrong. you can feel sorry for her, because that is sad stuff, but she was still fucking wrong!
>>78418761
Come on anon, nerdy indian girls are a dime a dozen. At least if she dedicates her life to Steven it will give her life some meaning.
>>78416272
>le text to speech XD
Fuck off OP, no one likes your shitty video.
Come back once you afford a microphone you spic.
Stevonie episode makes me uncomfortable. With a ton of teenagers and young adults hitting on two little kids who have been infused together, that just makes me feel uncomfortable.
>>78418896
Most kids Steven and Connie's age are masturbating and googling porn.
>>78418861
>tfw no nerdy indian gf
>>78416272
Can we please stop with these threads, they're becoming more annoying than actual SU threads.
>>78416272
Well Rebeca Sugar is a pedophile so
This is what happens when decades of mediocre animated programming have forced people into continually lowering their standards.
They begin to defend it.
fuck you guys for making a shit thread
I'm outta here
>>78416272
Even though they're the proof of evil in the world, if you're going to do a review video, do not have Microsoft Sam voice it.
>>78418959
It's a Steven Universe hate thread, of course it's gonna be shit.
I can't wait for /sug/ to be back to make them shit themselves in autistic rage.
>>78418950
ATLA was one of the greatest cartoons of all time and it ended less than a decade ago. So I don't know where you're getting the idea we've had decades of mediocre cartoons.
This thread proves that /co/ is incapable of appreciating anime.
>>78416861
>implying
I was on the verge of tears.
>>78417160
People like you are a big reason why people hate this show. There is absolutely nothing at all similar to dbz and Steven universe.
>>78419131
Do you really think that matters? If so please go ask /a/ what they think of Steven universe
>199 views
>hey guys check out this video that is totally not mine :^)
>>78418988
Whay do thay get so mad
>>78419399
Because of the body positive character designs and uncomfortably heavy lesbian undertones. And "muh AT" people still pissed off that AT got so fucked up because of the same demographic that post SU shit on tumblr.
Honestly I don't think any of this would have happened if Sugar didn't want to make the show as gay as possible and just added like, one male gem.
>>78417781
pic actually brought a smile to my face outside the context of the convo
>>78419367
Yep, that about sums it all up.
>>78416412
You know, SU is first and foremost a show for little kids.
I'm 35 and I love it, but it IS written for kids.
Also I don't get how you can cringe at how an alien light body being expresses themselves. You're projecting a human ego onto pearl and then injecting yourself and feeling the cringe.... don't do that.
>>78419282
>Alien shows up (steven releases her from the mirror) and tells steven that he is actually an alien
>Finds out that more aliens might be coming
>Two aliens arrive. One small one and one big one
>They manage to barely beat them
hmmm sounds familiar to me
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY
>>78418950
this
i've never watched steven universe, but i used to like the "stronger than you" fight
the first time i watched it it looked really cool
maybe it was because of the song or sound effects
but after watching gravity falls and getting used to better animation now i realize that the fight looks kinda shitty, hell i think some of the sound effects aren't even timed right or just don't work or have any kind of impact
How much would everyone go nuts once we hear Yellow Diamond?
>>78419493
I think the animation's just...ok. It certainly isn't terrible but it isn't excellent, either. I do like the backgrounds though.
On a related note, SU's one of those shows where the differences in animation/design rely on the storyboard artist. Which style is your favorite, /co/? Least favorite?
>>78419462
Happy Christmas, Anon.
>>78419558
The second two I guess. I know it's not Kat Morris with those tiny lemon eyes.
>>78419557
Posts at the speed of light. At the speed of light.
>>78419429
That's Steven
>>78419611
D'oh. He's half human though, and I guess nobody wants to self-insert as a jolly fat kid.
>>78416412
>>78416452
salty pearl make me kek
so i hope for more impossible love from the worst gem
>>78417160
>>78419282
>>78419457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQJhucmYKYw
>>78419493
I watch gravity falls too and it looks fine
>>78419558
>>78419558
Can anyone update this with Zuke's stuff? I really like the way she does things
>>78416682
That again? When are we getting new ones?
>>78419627
This is fantastic
>>78419558
>Favorite
Zuke
>Least favorite
Kat Morris. He looks like a young danny devito
The animation is ok. I watch SU for the characters and the coloring. Plus I am kinda hooked on the plot even though it is slow.
>>78419718
>>78419640
Which episodes did they storyboard?
>>78417417
I definitely didn't think much of it going by the promos alone. But after a few introductory episodes it drew me in.
The drama in SU is no more forced than any other show on the planet because since it is a written work, drama must of course be introduced or ignored depending on the time the author chooses.
I do find that the show can be rather ham-fisted in its attempts to convey character depth, or at least quite cliche, but coming at the show for "forcing" drama is a tad ridiculous.
>>78419861
the show its been lacking some drama since the last bomb, and it seems that's there's not a big drama incoming.
Now, about lore, that's different and is besides the point.
>>78419445
You're also 35 and still here
>>78418615
Inhale helium
>>78416272
I was drawn in by the art and lore, but it's clearly written for an actually younger audience rather than kids show for 20-somethings
>>78418683
>none of it flows organically, because it is a scripted show
Please watch more than children cartoons
>>78416272
Okay, that was absolute garbage.
I lasted 23 seconds.
Thanks for ruining Christmas, faggot.
>>78420015
>actually trying to watch the video
no matter how good the critique might have been, there's no reason for it to last 40 minutes
Good critiques can be summarized, shortened down to 5 minutes
If someone feels the need to make a review that is more than 10 minutes long, 90% of the review is going to be whining+
>>78419429
>Because of the body positive character designs
Just kill yourself
>>78419925
You don't suddenly hit 30 and drop all your hobbies.
Besides, anonymous posting is the only way I could ever participate in an internet community long term. I'll probably post on 4chan until I die or something similar and better replaces it.
>>78420068
That's not true, long form reviews have been a source of good insight for years.
In fact, the best series of reviews on the Internet are Plinkett's hour-long Star Wars reviews.
>>78420194
There's a difference between making a series of reviews on a multi billion dollar franchise with a character making jokes and making this video about a cartoon on CN that's lasted like 2 years
It's the difference between stuff like MST3K and Mr. Enter
One is a beloved series and the other are reviews so autistic the autistic of 4chan make fun of him
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Mr. Enter is bad, I just don't think his stuff or stuff like it should be in a series of reviews that last more than 30 minutes per segment
>>78419558
Raven Molisee is easily the best, her storyboards are always really lively, she is definitely one of the best and most prolific CN board artists.
>>78416592
fucking this
she's just a mary sue and everytime she speaks I cringe. especially when she starts to use japanese words. I dropped the show when they had a whole episode about how she could pick up sword fighting with just a couple training sessions.
>>78419975
excuse me? nothing in any show happens for any other reason than because the writers wanted it to happen. hell, even "reality" shows are heavily edited to "force" certain plot elements. Animation can't even build on random little quirks of the actors and production, because every 1/20th of a second is planned out before hand. if THAT is not the definition of "forced", please tell me what is
>>78418896
congratulations! you followed where the episode writer was leading you to!
>>78420348
sword fighting isn't that hard m8
there's a difference between being able to kill things with swords and being a sword master
Connie's probably like level 3 out of 50, she's basically a yellow belt, which is still enough training to defeat anyone without training
>>78419925
>>>waaaah waaaah go away old people you're ruining my shitposting cuz you don't understand ma humors
You watch a lil kid show and complain about the emotional outbursts being too blunt and forced.
You think people should stop using 4chan at a certain age.
>>78420348
>I dropped the show when they had a whole episode about how she could pick up sword fighting with just a couple training sessions.
1.We don't the know the duration of her training due to it being a montage
2. Connie is already an athlete so its not like her body wouldn't have been use to physicaly endure
3. Considering Pearl put both her and Steven their ass in one move, I doubt we're supposed to believe she's a master swordsmen.
>>78420453
We know it is at least weeks.
>>78416272
I can't wait for this new episode bullshit to end so SU threads can be purged again. SUGfags are nearly as cancerous as Homosuck at this point.
>>78416510
>Every time it starts to get lewd I remember little Steven is in there.
o-ok...
>>78416517
The target audience is, after all, very young though
Man that Sokka/Amethyst comparison was pretty good.
>>78416625
Well she does fuck a black guy. Maybe she's trying to suck his color off
>>78419044
>>78416272
it's flawed alright
that's why i call it an above average show
the good parts are really good & the bad parts are cringe worthy at worst
what they really needed were episodes to build it up before just jumping straight into the sad shit
>>78419445
>You know, SU is first and foremost a show for little kids
Considering the topics, the constant innuendos and jokes the show regularly pumps out, that's not a good excuse at all. It was still terrible, regardless of who they're targeting.
>>78416272
I actually fealt the comedy was forced at the beginning, but the drama is handled well.
>>78420375
>I don't like superman
>you're just jealous that you can't fly and shoot lazers
she's a fictional character retard, what am i to be jealous of. if you deny that she's a mary sue than you're either willfully blind or delusional.
>she's a nerdy poc that is super smart and always know what to say at the right time, not only is she smart but she is a natural fighter who can master swordmanship with minimal training. she's also the mc's love interest and is able to activate his powers through their bond.
you telling me that this shitty quality writing belong anywhere outside of deviant art OCs.
>>78420306
I know this post is old but I really don't like how Raven draws the gems. Her human episodes are ok but her Pearls just look really weird.
>>78416272
The show constantly panders to the subhuman sjw crowd. The show literally lacks substance.
>>78420448
Salty old man
>>78420383
You missed the point
>>78421793
These shitposters are getting out of hand.
>>78422766
How much do you get paid hourly? Or by post?
>>78420696
Avatar never had absolute cringe like that
>>78416272
I never watched SU but his point about the fight scenes was spot on.
Everything was accurate
Kind of wish you talked about the recent Peridot episodes since those are pretty flawed too
>>78416627
Why?
>>78420992
Regular Show gets away with anymore jokes and topics than SU.
>>78416272
Why are threads like these allowed?
>>78416272
So we can all agree that SU is a terrible show and should be banned from /co/.
>>78424792
Shitposting.
>>78424807
Since when did being a bad show become a ban able offence? /co/ talks about why shows are bad all the time
>>78424807
Again, You guys are making me feel like a faggot for liking this show.
I don't want /sug/ to come back.
I miss the comfy early threads, when there wasn't 24/7 SU in the catalog
>>78422766
Why contain it?
>>78424792
Threads discussing shows? I have no idea, I'd wish they'd bring back /sug/ so we can have our shitposting waifu artdump thread again.
>>78416272
Man, I don't watch videos narrated by text to speech. If you can't say that shit yourself, write it down. I have no time for someone's words to be read to me.
>>78424832
Honestly, I wish there was no SU what's so ever on /co/. They should just have their own board.
>>78424849
>If you can't say that shit yourself, write it down
But it is. It's literally in his discription
>>78424832
It isn't even that bad. /co/ just fucking loves being contrarian asshats
>>78416272
How do we take down SU?
>>78424922
We don't. We just ignore it and delete all Shotpost threads about it.
>>78416799
>tiger millionaire a very early and probably the first amethyst ep hinted at this
>BUT IT WASN'T BLATANT ENOUGH
>Pearl's flaws are spelled out often
>JEEZ SUGAR EVER HEARD OF SUBTLETY
You know, SU does have problems. Sadie is a waste of animation, some of the Aesops are heavy handed but forgotten completely (I would say to keep Steven naïve but meh), and the character design ranges from GOAT to eww Jesus Christ. So many valid criticisms and you choose strawmen
>>78424899
Why are you talking as if my opinion came from word of mouth?
I've been on the threads from the beggining, and prefer the original threads. Call me a contrarian asshole if you want.
see you on /sug/ senpai
>>78418259
When did Garent "lose sight of what's important" in future vision?
>>78424976
Actually, there's nothing redeeming about SU. It's nothing but flaws.
>>78418080
>Pearl did not change, she was simply given more detail.
>she didn't change, she was just changed
Pearl is completely different than she was at the start of the show
>>78416272
In conclusion, SU is awful. So only hate threads for SU should be allowed.
>>78425093
Turning the volume up on the radio doesn't make the song that's playing different, you twat.
>>78425136
>songs are the same as characters who are supposed to represent human-ish people
Weak analogy
>>78424809
>video of a decently thought-out essay presented in a very mild-manner
>shitposting
You Steven Universe kids are fucking crazy
>>78425273
That gif sucks ass compared to the original.
Also the thread may have started with a reasonable OP but we all knew what it was for.
>>78425273
It's shitposting because it's the same essay that's been posted for two straight days. Why is /co/ so obsessed with hating things?
>>78425300
>it's the same essay that's been posted for two straight days
Where?
>>78416272
>textbook autism
>>78425286
To expose how sensitive /co/ is to criticism?
>>78425286
Why does it suck? Because it's what /co/ has turned to?
A bunch of fucking normies ?
>>78425461
>Criticism
The ratio of Criticism to "TUMBLR!" is about 1:10.
This thread isn't actually that bad, though. I think people are burnt out after two consecutive designated shitposting threads.
>>78425479
I know you're trying to bait someone but I meant the one where the guy's nose just turns red was better.
>>78425461
To expose of how /co/ shits on this show 24/7?
>>78425498
Who cares? You're like the people who are salty that people like the show. If /co/ disliking a show really twists your panties, you shouldn't be here.
>>78425351
Right on /co/.
>>78425547
It dosen't. It just gets tiring seeing the same kind of shitpost.
