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The little Star Destroyers that could Edition
>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.co.uk/updates/release.htm
>Newest Rebels Episode: "Legacy":
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B--x3TcdnpPjSGZEWnF0RkU2T2c/view?usp=sharing
https://mega.nz/#F!w5w3QQzS!kEXw8EpWWhF9izE5K2JpvQ
>Newest Rebels Recon Episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JrVry8kgyw
>Star Wars: Rebels MEGA (Season 1):
https://mega.co.nz/#F!UYQCwTwa!s-n8--buJPbauv6ylUo-DA
>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/the-clone-wars-legacy
>Star Wars: Uprising: (/co/ Cartel: Loth-Cats)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpW6fOEvuSg
http://community.kabam.com/forums/showthread.php?568108-Newx-s-New-Player-Guide
>Star Wars: Commander (/co/ Squad: Empire - SheevSquad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FXrcuPR4XQ
>All Canon Novels and Comics: (Including the Rebels UK Comics)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!2R5kDTqQ!WfrDla-jvDIn05U57T9hhQ
>Star Wars Audiobooks (Canon and Legends) and Motion Comics:
https://mega.nz/#F!w9tFCZxK!7zthk3nLz-0ATC9zxxEPuw
>Star Wars Legends Novels & Comics (Incomplete):
https://mega.nz/#F!AgVghZhQ!0SL9AVJvCbzUsRICuAoguQ
https://mega.nz/#F!j99HEbrC!GP5TSEEbrBYZIZ73xod4fg
>Canon Guide & Timeline:
http://imgur.com/a/wnoIs
>Star Wars /co/ Booru:
starwars.booru.org
>Star Wars Soundtracks MEGA (Work-in-Progress):
https://mega.nz/#F!xocwwSiT!M8RpDwmmI37P24_TRzBKugThree more days /swg/, are you ready?
The suspense is killing me
Watched the new Star Trek trailer and I threw up a little in my mouth.
How can people be so excited for Star Wars?
>>78180830
Because those are two different things you silly willy
>>78180830
Look man, me personally, I'm going to actually watch the movie before making judgments on it.
>>78180830
Because that Beastie Boys amv looked so much more interesting?
By the way, this is going to be the best Star Wars Rebels downtime ever.
>>78180830
I'm only excited for Gwendoline Christie and potential cool aliens/robots in the background
>>78180927
What if she never takes off her helmet?
>>78180908
>best Star Wars Rebels downtime ever
Maybe, so long as we don't take the bait from /tv/ when they inevitably show up with their racebaiting and general know nothing attitude towards Star Wars as a whole.
The best time was during Celebration, that week was great.
>re-watch clone wars with the idea of Jar Jar being a sith
>season 6 The Disappeared, Part II
>jar jar uses force lightning to kill a stone guardian and pretends he used one of there severed hands although the lighing is compleately different
Why does this reddit tier poetry still hold water.
>>78180961
There needs to be a basic lowering of expectations with her character here. She's going to look menacing in the background, and occasionally fire her gun and give orders in a sexy voice.
>>78180961
She's going to look menacing in the background which is fine enough. It might also help her become more mainstream which is good enough for me.Would be great if WB got her to play Big Barda
Kylo Ren confirmed for most badass Star Wars villain ever.
>>78180983
god bless that stupid theory for making Jar Jar watchable.
>>78181022
She's my dream Samus if they ever had to adapt Metroid into a movie.
>>78181035
at least we know why he said "we're home"
>>78181049
But on the other hand it made normies trying to act like they know shit about Star Wars insufferable
>>78181055
That too, to be fair mostly because she's the only tall blonde actress I can think of. Though to be fair she is genuinely good and it's pretty stupid the main reason why she had a hard start was her height.
>>78181047
Really looking forward to this fight now. Interesting how he takes his helmet off
>>78181047
>That unnecessary spin
>>78181111
It's that and the fact that I think she'd play a role rather than try to change it to suit her needs. Respecting the character like Karl Urban did for Dredd.
Also tall girls and short guys have always had trouble in Hollywood. It's stupid since it gives of an unrealistic look at the world, but that's Hollywood I guess.
sokylodid kill luke's "students" but maybe there are still some fully trained jedi hiding in throughout the galaxy. luke can't be this incompetent...
>>78181171
Someone post Obi-wan's spin from ANH
>>78181171
It's like you don't enjoy actual fight choreography. Fuck off, there's nothing wrong with spinning
>>78181182
Hollywood wants the most blandest people, in terms of physical stature and looks, because uniqueness is shunned there.
>>78181219
And Luke's spin in TESB
>>78180997
That's pretty much what everyone expects, though. The most people are hoping for is not going down as easily as Grievous did, which is unlikely if Christie has signed for part VIII too like it's been reported.
Visual Dictionary spoiled a lot>Han became a family man after the war but then a "profound tragedy" made him return to smuggling
>Kylo Ren betrayed and killed all of Luke's other Jedi in training
>Kylo Ren has the blood of the greatest Jedi and Sith in him
Kylo Ren son of Han and Leia confirmed
>>78181171
It's a good trick.
kylo ren can freeze blaster bolts in mid-air.
>>78181182
>Kathleen Kennedy said to me, ‘Have you ever Googled ‘female heroines’? I said, ‘No,’ and she did it for me. If you do it, there are a lot of scantily clad women. Now women should be allowed to dress exactly however they choose, but the idea that you Google female heroines and there isn’t a diverse range of examples that come up, I find it a bit depressing
Yep your assumptions doesn't sound like much of a stretch.
>Metroid movie with Christie as Samus and little to no zero suit bullshit
Who do you guys think is going to get the obligatory bad feeling?
>>78181256
>they fight Phasma in Episode 7
>Finn cuts her in half with his lightsaber and quickly runs away from Imperial forces
>camera moves down to her body and shows that her insides are robotic
>later on in the movie you see Kylo doing shit with Imperials
>in the background you can notice some machine putting together a shiny suit of stormtrooper armor
>yfw
>>78181303
>Kylo Ren son of Han and Leia confirmed
Eh not really but it might as well be confirmed.
>>78181303
>Visual Dictionary spoiled a lot
Seeing as the point of it was to be released after the movie, that makes sense.
>>78181220
Except leaving your back open for stabbing.
>>78181334
Finn the walking panic button.
>>78181219
>>78181243
>>78181308
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTWjJDh87SE
>>78181485
Yeah too bad the force isn't real
>>78181545
Too bad no one thought of doing that instead of spinning.
>>78181303Also First Order is essentially the Empire of the Hand from the Thrawn Trilogy, a re-established empire in the Unknown Regions.
The New Republic is back.
Snoke is also probably from the Unknown Regions like a certain novel suggested.
>Kylo killed the other students>Luke is a hermit
I'm depressed about this. I was hoping the rumors weren't true. I was hoping for a new golden age.Instead of seeing the OT rehashed, I would have preferred something like Luke's students helping heal the galaxy and undo everything Palpatine did to destroy the Jedi's credibility.
>>78181568
So basically we're getting Shmrawn, the not Thrawn leading the Shmrempire. Seeing as how Disney wants to make a new SW movie every year from now till the end of time, how long till we get the Shmruuzan Shmrong?
>>78181626
Snoke will be revealed to be one of NotVong who are also connected to ancient Sith like Dark Horse wanted in the very beginning
>>78181601
We might still get some of that in 8 and 9
>>78181485
Funny. I did this to my friend a month ago.
>>78181047
Okay for anyone more up on the spoilers than me, how is Finn who isn't a Jedi or even have any training in the use of a lightsaber able to stand against someone like Ren who clearly is trained? I mean if you look at this gif that should pretty much be the end of Finn right there.
>>78181760
Order troopers have melee training with all sorts of weapons
>>78181760
He's a highly trained stormtrooper. He's in the top 1% of the First Order troopers. And as we've seen at least some of them get training in melee combat. On top of that it doesn't sound like he lasts very long before Rey steps in.
>>78181568
>Snoke is also probably from the Unknown Regions like a certain novel suggested.
What are you talking about?
>>78181760
Finn is in the top 1% of storm troopers and has extensive training in melee combat. Also, he might be force-sensitive, but who knows.
>>78181854
Aftermath implied that Sheev thought his dark side powers came from the unknown regions.
>>78181854
Aftermath, it mentioned contingency plans for high ranking officers to go there if the Empire were to fall.
>>78181891
So, what, is Snoke supposed to be some kind of dark side power source?
Just started season 2. That opener was intense.
Are you guys ready?
Oh shit. I just realised that the Canon pages on Wookieepedia are default now.
It's a Life Day miracle!
>>78182020
Yeah, it was sad to see the minister die, but it was interesting to see what the Empire does to its loyal people to deal with a threat to security. Using her as a false flag operation to paint the Rebels as bloodthirsty terrorists was cold but pretty damn effective.
>>78182292
fuck yes
>>78182292
Good, this should have been done several months ago, rather than the week before a new Star Wars movie comes out. Were there any objections to it?
>those kylo ren spoilers
Wow, dude is more powerful than I thought.
>>78182389
This was 'planned' to happen early this year but they just kept saying 'Soon™'.
And the only objections I've ever seen that were credible were people saying that canon pages are too short to be default.
But that's the fault of the stubborn people running the place that refused to update canon pages properly.
>>78181601
I'm with you man. Feels kinda shitty that Luke tried and failed to restart the Jedi Order.
>>78182389
>Were there any objections to it?
Of course, the admins threw a shit-fit over it.
>>78181035
Thanks for the leak, more lore is always welcome.
>>78182487
Makes sense since his teachers were kinda terrible. I'm sure he spent time going around finding Jedi artifacts, but that wasn't enough.
>>78182530
Fucking autistic faggots
>>78180908
>Best
You know damn well it is going to go to hell after TFA hits.
>>78180961
[Insert Baneposting here]
>>78182290
This gets my attention
>POST YFW KOTOR AND KOTOR 2 ARE CANON AGAIN
>>78182572
True. I hope at least some of those he trained survived and are out living their lives, like a reverse of how he founded the NJO in the EU. If he trained all these people and they all died, that'd be really depressing
>>78182619
They aren't canon just because of that.
>>78182619
just means malachor is canon son.
>>78182619
Malachor has been mentioned in TCW before
>>78182622
Honestly with Rian Johnson on 8 this might be the most depressing trilogy.
>>78182659
>>78182663
You idiots are so fucking autistic, I swear.
>>78182290
Actually yeah, that might be fun if the experts they pull in to talk about the martial art aren't terrible to listen to.
>>78182622At least there are some people living in the outskirts, like Maz Kanata, who escaped because they were never trained as Jedi.
>>78182699
You're just stupid. Show me where there's crossguard lightsabers in KOTOR1/2.
>>78182487
I would have at least preferred something ala Legacy with the Jedi scattered around the galaxy and operating as a covert force from the First Orders' Jedi Hunters. Now it's just a rehash of the OT.
>>78182676
Yeah, in a quote. wasn't it like "no way in Malachor" or some bullshit? This actually confirms that the Battle of Malachor V happened. Not to mention the fact that Rakata Prime is canon again? Yeah, it's happening.
>>78182746
It's not the lightsaber itself, anon, it's the cracked crystal inside of it that's related to kotor
>>78182804
>"Kylo Ren's unsusal LIGHTSABER is an ancient design, dating back thousands of years to the Great Scourge of Malachor."
>>78182746
Well, Malachor is now canon. So, it shows that they're using bits from KOTOR.
>>78182787
It confirms there was a major battle at Malachor and I'd not be shocked if they added SOME version of Revan back into the deep past without explicitly needing to touch on the Mandalorian Wars and Jedi Civil War, unless they do a new comic or book set way back then.
I'm going to assume that the general events we know happened but not be totally disappointed if they change key elements or something or just never expound on it.
>>78182804
Yeah, but Kyber Crystals were simply a part of the old Lightsaber Canon that is making the jump over into the new Canon. Doesn't necessarily mean everything else related to that is in the New Canon too. I'm sure we'll see lots of things make that jump, but others will be completely rewritten to suit the needs of the story they want to tell now.
>>78182787
man, retards like you are why pablo is always sperging out on twitter.
>>78182868
well yeah of course, they've been using other stuff from legends too, not taking it wholesale.
>>78182619
>Kylo uses taunts and psychological attacks
Quipster confirmed.
>>78182619
KOTOR is probably somewhat canon. There are rumors that the KOTOR era was going to be canon but they decided against it because Hidalgo didn't like some of KOTOR 2 and some things contradict current canon (sith ghosts, etc). It's probably what inspired the part of the new canon press release where they say that some legends stuff can be looked at as literal legends people in universe tell that probably happened, but not how they appeared to happen in their legends media.
So assuming KOTOR is a literal legend in the new canon, we can assume this 'Scourge of Malachore' was the Battle of Malachore where Revan destroyed the Mandalorians but at the price of destroying Malachore and killing billions of innocents. You could actually argue that Kylo Ren's lightsaber was new canon Revan's lightsaber.
>>78182993
Just like his father.
All this info about Kylo makes me wonder why he doesn't immediately kill Finn and Rey. In terms of skill, he's leagues above them and has no reason to toy with them like Vader did with Luke.
>>78182290
Interesting how they only pull from Kendo. I find it far too rigid, myself. Figure something more like Iaido or Haidong Gumdo would be more representative of the progression of lightsaber duel choreography. Haidong Gumdo especially for the Prequels. Obi-Wan vs Darth Vader certainly was Kendo with a bit of fencing, though.
>>78183315
Well Rey is his cousin. And I bet he thinks he can use them to find Luke.
>>78181035
Why would Han have to worry about credits...
Seriously he could have retired at the end of RotJ as a multi-millionaire.And him going back to smuggling and the like kinda gets rid of the character development he went through
>>78181303
Does anybody have an upload of the official visual dictionary?
>>78183445
>multi-millionaire
from what?
>>78183445
TRUE FANS wouldn't want Han as a family man, but as a hard edged Smuggler like back in the PRACTICAL glory days of the OT
It's better that people don't change or develop character, you see
Because that way we can look forward to seeing them the next time they're out and about because everything we loved about them is still there, just the way we remembered
>>78183445
And where would he get all those credits? The Rebellion/New Republic wouldn't be able to fund that for just one person.
>>78183513
IDK because he was part of the Rebellion who now control the Galaxy, dated one of its highest leaders (who is probably a billionaire) and could reasonably just ASK for money to be handed to him.
I still want to believe Snoke is Plagueis.
>>78183668
>(who is probably a billionaire)
Whose money more than likely blew up with her planet.
>>78183720
I kind of wish he was too. It would bridge the movies together better. Imagine watching that scene in Episode 3 where Palpatine talks about Plageous knowing that Finn, Rey, and Poe end up fighting Plageous 50 years later.
>>78183668
just because he's a hero doesn't mean they have to pay him anything and the rebels don't control the whole galaxy and money would be better spent elsewhere.
>>78183739
Yet she's definitely made a name for herself as a valued Rebel Leader.
>>78183835
Making a name for yourself does not bring in money anon. Through most of the stories told in rebel viewpoints, we see that almost every cell is scrapped for credits, to the point where they can't replace ships lost to battles because they are too expensive. There's one line, might be from Twilight Company or Lost Stars, where some rebel says how they wish the Banking Clan would be under Rebel control just so they could afford things. The "main" cell was able to give Han a reward in ANH, but I doubt they would be able to do it again with the Empire doubling down on rebellion after that.
>reading a Yahoo article on how the Cantina scene in ANH was made
>says Phil Tibbet is coming back for Force Awakens to do stop-motionfor the chess board on the Falcon.
>>78183935
Leia is also a high ranking politician in the Rebellion, she won't be the leader of the New Republic but she was most likely and advisor to Mon Mothma.
>>78181171
It's for UNLIMITED POWAAH
>>78183080
I imagine that the old republic jedi were still clinging to old designs similar to the darksaber and Bane's concept art, then during the war Revan's movement popularized/invented newer designs like the ventsabers.
>>78182596
>Adam Driver and Gwendoline Christie are both 6"2
>Both wear Face obscuring helmets
>Kylo has an interrogation scene
>we've just had confirmation of spinning
/tv/'s going to have a fucking field day with this one.
>>78183518
>TRUE FANS wouldn't want Han as a family man, but as a hard edged Smuggler like back in the PRACTICAL glory days of the OT
Which is not the same as your second line and does not automatically preclude character development.
>Google something I can't remember about Rebels
>First link is the Wook
>Get ready to click on canon
>Realize that canon is finally default
You done good, Wook. About time.
>kylo ren i basically jedi knight anakin with no restrictions
>>78183080
>There are rumors that the KOTOR era was going to be canon but they decided against it because Hidalgo didn't like some of KOTOR 2
then fuck hidalgo
>>78183080
I sincerely hope he wasn't one of those dumbasses that thought Kreia was meant to be objectively right.
>>78184717
kotor 2 isn't star wars
>>78184835
your not star wars m8
>>78184717
>>78184763
Optimistically, maybe he was one of the original players who was still sore over it being unfinished.
>>78184835
Care to explain why? It deconstructs many of the stereotypes of star wars, but depending on the way you play the game, you can actually subvert them and make it more in line with a traditional story.
>>78184835
Go to bed, Drew.
>>78183445
>>78183518
>character development
Regression can be a part of character development too. Han and Leia married after ROTJ and probably lived a relatively happy life until their son turned to the dark side and killed Luke's other students. Is it so far fetched that a father like Han, who never really seemed like someone who would settle down anyway, would return to his old habits after such a traumatic experience? Or that Leia would become a cold military leader who would even use a super weapon to destroy the people that took away her son?
It's actually quite brilliant. Kylo Ren single-handedly ruined the lives of our OT heroes long before the events of TFA, which already makes him a formidable villain even though he's just an apprentice.
>>78181171
It gives him the high ground
>>78181568As a player of the Imperial Civil War mod for Empire At War, this actually makes me kind of sad. I always loved the idea of Thrawn running an egalitarian, meritocratic empire in the unknown regions that fused together the best of Chiss and Imperial technology.
>>78181626
>how long till we get the Shmruuzan Shmrong?
End of Episode IX will reveal that Snoke was NotNom Anor, an advance agent sent by the NotVong to sow discord and chaos is the galaxy. Before he dies, he'll say 'They're here." and we cut to a massive fleet entering the Galaxy, to cue the war for the next trilogy.
New kids book leak.
http://imgur.com/a/Hx0HD
>>78185363
>That R2-D2 pic
Artoo had a hard life
So the giant freighter above Jakku really belongs to Han. Reminds me of the very old rumor of him being the captain of a star destroyer. They probably changed that a little.
>>78182327
Indeed. I was like "didn't expect that".
Also love how Vader is just a real fucking powerhouse. I mean sure, you had stuff in the original trilogy too, but this was just one "oh shit" moment after the other. And I love how his fighting style differed from the inquisitor's.
>>78185363
That's some nice Dracula hair.
So when are TFA spoilers supposed to start coming?
>>78186019
You mean from people actually seeing the movie in theaters? Because if you just want plot spoilers we already have the entire story.
>>78186019
I can tell you now, it has a lot of 'sooo progressive!' moments.
Snoke better be Plagueis, it's better and easier to explain than some random new guy.
>>78186159
This. I'll be so pissed if they just pull some new guy out of their ass.
>>78186159
How so, anon?
>>78186159
he's a Vong
or, to be precise, something like Vong but not quite, think the original idea for Vong posted here a few threads ago
>kylo ren totally wrecked luke, han, and leai's lives completely
JUST
The cast of TFA answers "controversial" Star Wars questions! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7wFAIDnVKI
>Oscar Isaac promotes the machete order
Did Star Wars Rebels get better after that dreadful Sabine episode?
I haven't given up on the series, I just haven't found the time to watch the past couple episodes.
It's a bit disappointing, I feel like an episode focused on Sabine's past should be one of the best of the series.
>>78186205
I'm not, I'm sick of "pottery" and tired of everything being so damn interconnected all the time. I'm hoping for something new being brought in, and only time will tell if the movie does that.
>>78186323
Gwen has the right idea
>>78186298And R2 and 3PO's. Really that's the worst offense
>>78186352
It's been pretty dumb so far. The Empire are mouth breathers, and we didn't really need another series about Jedi or dumb kids.
>>78186352
I think so, I've really enjoyed the last few episodes. The Sabine one felt like a low point that we've moved on from.
>>78185363
>"Why are we here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my arm... and my processors... even my power converters. The parts I've lost... the data I've lost... won't stop hurting. It's like they're all still there. You feel it too, don't you? I'm gonna make them give back our master."
>>78186323
Christie's adorable
>>78184544
>/tv/'s going to have a fucking field day with this one.
How?
>>78186383
This. The Star Wars universe is too big to use the same villains over and over again. Also, Plagueis is lame as hell. Might as well have Kylo be the big bad instead of that idiot who either got killed in his sleep or survived but let his traitorous apprentice rule the galaxy for almost thirty years. No one would take a villain like that seriously.
>>78186508
They are big guys.
>>78185840
>And I love how his fighting style differed from the inquisitor's.
Yeah definitely, he just goes in for the kill and the only reason they were left alive was due to the fact he wanted them left alive to find the Rebel Cell in that sector, and he did, killing several rebels, and getting rid of a lot of vital equipment the rebels had and most likely knocking them down several pegs.
>>78186352
Yes.
They didn't even really expand on her past, which was the problem. It was wrapped up too fast, but who knows, maybe Ketsu will betray her again. Hope so, it would make her much more interesting than the quick transition as part of the good guys she did in that episode.
>>78186219
Sidious said Plagueis was the only one who knew how to cheat death, plus he's responsible for Anakin being born albeit unintentionally. In a way he's responsible for the Skywalkers' existence.
>>78186508
reach out with your feelings.
>>78186508
big gal in a mask
Does anyone have that list of "essential" Clone Wars episodes?
I turned it off on the third episode cause I was too bored, but I feel I'm missing out some background stuff I should know for Rebels S2.
>>78186601
Gotcha
>>78186352
Sabine's episode was the worst of the season, so yeah, it gets better, Interdictor episode is good, and feels were had in Legacy
>>78186352
God, what where they thinking with that episode? Probably one of the worst heel-face turns I've ever seen.
If they wanted the bounty hunter to be redeemed, they should've had her in another episode, not just start out ready to kill Sabine, only to go "lol, we're friends now ^_^"
Literally did not even try with character development.
>>78186545
>>78186573
>>78186574
Oh, the spinning part confused me
>>78186569
>Sidious said Plagueis was the only one who knew how to cheat death
Chancellor Palpatine said that to Anakin so he could be even more susceptible to the Dark Side, especially with his attachment to Padme and him worrying over her death in his visions.
Take what a Sith Lord says with a heavy grain of salt, especially one that's trying to lure a good man to his downfall. He's going to say whatever he can to get him on his side.
>>78186675
This, the switch not only was abrupt, it was extreme, she went from somewhat evil to goody good in 5 minutes
>>78186601
Season one is the only one where you need to consider what to watch and what to entirely jettison. Rookies and Hostage crisis are a must. You might want to watch the Ryloth Arc since Lords of the Sith ties into it later. Trespass has Senator Chuchii.
>....Snoke, a mysterious figure steeped in dark side knowledge"
HMMM
>>78186675
>>78186770
It's episodes like that which make it clear they're not confident in having enough time to do set up episodes.
That sort of thing ought to have 2-3 episodes around it.
>>78186855
>From the Unknown Regions where Sheev claims his powers came from
>>78186569
And you think Abrams and Kasdan of all people would rather use highly controversial plot points established in the prequels instead of creating their own unique story and characters? Midichlorians are probably even more hated than Jar Jar or Lucas's dialogue and you expect the writers to reference them by introducing the character who might have used them to create Anakin?
I'm not trying to stir up a debate here, but you should realise that this movie was written with general audiences in mind. Most people who will watch TFA don't even know who Plagueis is. It wouldn't be the mind blowing twist you imagine it to be, it would just be poor writing.
>>78180801
It doesn't make it a good game, but I love how easily the Speeder Bikes explode on Endor in Battlefront. Wish I had a gif that did it justice.
>>78186323
>Oscar and Gwen the only ones to defend Luke/Leia incest.
B A S E D
>>78187032
Well, Gwen is part of the Game of Thrones cast, so she should be used to scenes like that.
>>78187032
hey, Driver was incredibly into it.
Is it just me or does it seem that this movie is quite influenced by the EU? I know it pretty much looks like ANH 2.0 but there's some stuff in there that EU fans would recognize.
>>78187121
Yeah it's weird. It feels like a Star Wars movie made by Star Wars fans. I know obviously that's what it is, but it's still weird having a Star Wars movie reference EU shit.
It kind of reminds me of the MCU and how they mix different things together from the comics for their movies.
>>78187117
That's true, I didn't catch it the first time because he was shy about it.
>>78187121
I think that's where the Lucas story group comes in. Abrams and Kasden doesn't give a shit about all of that stuff and just tried to write plot and ANH poetry. But Abrams was in contact with Pablo Hidalgo at all times. Wasn't it revealed Zuvio is the same species as Embo?
>>78187215
Yeah, it a, in the toy bio I think.
>>78187121
I'm surprised that the Unknown Regions are a thing they kept from the old EU. I always considered it to be one of the more implausible things from the EU. I mean, you have hyperdrive which allows you to cross the galaxy in few hours to days, and yet somehow in all the millennia that galactic civilisation has existed, you still have huge swaths of the galaxy unexplored? That's kinda bullshit.
>>78187121
>>78187191
I would say they definitely got some inspiration from Kotor, because Kotor is popular and everyone likes it, but I doubt they made Kylo Han's fallen son to reference Caedus for example. A son going dark and fighting against his family, including his sister/cousin, is just an intriguing storyline with great potential and it also justifies using another masked villain with a red lightsaber.
>>78186911
From a storytelling point of view it makes more sense that it would be Plagueis. In my opinion it is heavily implied in ROTS that Palpatine knows that Plagueis is the "architect" behind Anakins birth, having manipulated the force to do so. It is also stated by Palpatine to Anakin that cheating death is a feat "only one has achieved" and that together they could discover this knowledge possessed by Plagueis.
In considering this sequel trilogy and its story I think it is too big a connection to overlook as it would tie the three trilogies together. It also allows JJ and the storytelling group enough leeway that they can take this back story and still fill in major gaps with their own original ideas (how did Plagueis survive, where was he during the OT, what are his plans now, what are the implications for Luke etc) it also solves the problem of how you'd explain Palpatine being unaware of Snoke if Snoke is not Plagueis yet is a powerful force user that existed during the OT. Plagueis by way of his being Palpatines master whose knowledge of the force exceeded Palpatine offers JJ an out by simply stating that he had the ability to hide from Palpatine due to some ability unknown to his apprentice.
I think Snoke being Plagueis is both logical and brings far less creative problems to the storytellers than Snoke being a totally new character who has appeared out of nowhere.
But that's just me, i'm fine with Snoke being a new character as long as it's logical and well written(for Star Wars anyway)
>>78187191
>>made by cvcks
Fixed that for you.
>>78187471
>>78187471
it's not plagueis, pablo has already spoken on that issue.
you just typed all that shit out, knowing damn well that it's not plagueis. Plagueis was a fool who couldn't tell his apprentice was planning to kill him, he's dead and gone.
>>78187568
just like it wasn't Khan right?
>>78187593
>this again
Khan was literally in the title of the most popular Star Trek movie while Plagueis is just some random character who was mentioned in one scene. General audiences and casual fans either don't know or don't care about him.
>>78187724
So they should know or care about a villain more that is new in this movie?
>>78187471
>I think it is too big a connection to overlook as it would tie the three trilogies together
Nigga, it's already tied together, how much pottery do you want? At a certain point it becomes fucking ridiculous and shows that the new canon is just as flawed as the EU in terms of always bringing something old and worn out to the table instead of something new.
>I think Snoke being Plagueis is both logical and brings far less creative problems
Bullshit, it just creates more problems whereas a new character can be fresh and bring something different to the sequels.
Bringing in some busted old Sith Lord that lost his place as a Sith Lord isn't what the First Order even respects anyways. They didn't like the fact that Palpatine failed and seen the Empire losing as a failure not to be repeated. So why in the hell would they make the guy that lost to his apprentice their Supreme Leader?
>>78187760
Not necessarily, but they might care about Snoke if he is a well written and terrifying villain. A loser like Plagueis would neither be well written nor terrifying, no matter how you set up his backstory.
>>78186068
>le MSW is accurate
can't wait till Thursday night when you faggots shut the fuck up.
>>78187928
>A loser like Plagueis would neither be well written nor terrifying, no matter how you set up his backstory
Thats a lot of assumptions though. With how little canon information we have on him he's pretty much a blank slate. They can write him how ever they want, all he has to do is fit with a few story points. If they can write a new villain well there's no reason they couldn't write Plagueis well. And it would tie together the arc of the three trilogies.
>>78187965
Why Thursday anon? There's a big premiere in LA right now for the movie, and some countries will get it on Wednesday.
Snoke and Luke aren't in the VD?
>>78187965
It hasn't been wrong about anything so far. Ever trailer that comes out just further proves its accuracy.
Here's a question. Is the Sith and the Rule of Two gone due to the fact that Sheev and Vader are dead?
>>78188049
In all likelihood, yes. If Palpatine's multiple resurrections aren't canon, then all the Sith knowledge and artefacts he and Vader possessed died with them.
>>78188049
Yes.
>>78188006
>If they can write a new villain well there's no reason they couldn't write Plagueis well. And it would tie together the arc of the three trilogies.
Why would JJ even bring in a character that's solely form the prequels, when he's been pretty adamant about his distaste for them? I'm not talking about some flags in a scene, I'm talking about an actual (minor) character from the prequels.
>>78188049
Yeah since for some reason Snoke and Kylo aren't Sith
>>78188049
Sith are old and busted. Knights of Ren are the new hotness.
>>78188033They are one and the same
>>78188149
To me it just makes sense to use him, and personally I'd enjoy the connectivity. Thats fine if you don't think so. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
>>78187121
I actually saw an interview here that JJ wanted to incorporate ideas from the old EU
Have you got your Star Wars socks yet?
>>78188154
Exactly.
http://www.starwars.com/
if you're interested
>>78188154
Shouldn't it be Knights of Snoke since Ren is his apprentice.
>IN 3 FUCKING DAYS WERE GETTING A NEW STAR WARS
Does it feel surreal to anyone else?
AUGH why can't I marry Space Mama?
Also, how often do new episodes come out?
>>78188349
Yeah, it's pretty weird. Just like that person in your image.
>Camie has a canon article on the Wook
Why?
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Camie_Marstrap
>>78188313
Ren could be a concept or an ideology/religion like the Jedi and the Sith. We don't even know who they are or what they want, just that Kylo joined them after he decided to betray Luke.
Everybody, hit up star wars.com
they have a TFA livestream going
>>78188313
Ren is a title. Kylo's name is Kylo something or other. My money is on Solo. Kylo Ren is like the Darth part of Darth Vader.
>>78188397
Shes like in her late 20's dude.
>>78188397
>AUGH why can't I marry Space Mama?
Because you're not Kanan.
>Also, how often do new episodes come out?
Once a week on Wednesday.
But we're on hiatus until early next year.
This is Solo, I've reached the sneaking point.
>>78188476
Yeah, but she's kinda the "mom" of the group.
>>78188497
Thanks.
Aie...the waiting's gonna hurt.
>>78188432
The deleted scene's been referenced in Ultimate Star Wars and in some newer ANH adaptations. That makes it canon.
FO Star Destroyer cross section scan when?
>>78188081
>knowledge and artefacts
Artifacts would stick around, I doubt he had them with him on the Death Star II. I mean, Kylo's profile in the VD says he got arcane Dark Side knowledge and even built his saber out of a millennia-old blueprint.
>>78188151
The Nightsisters weren't Sith, either. Still were Dark Siders.
>>78188349
I did then I started doing my homework. I'm expecting nothing and yet I'll still be disappointed. Everything I've been hyped for has been a disaster.
>wait over 10 years for Aliens: Colonial Marines
>get shit sprinkled with shit
>watching four camera red carpet stream
>Lucas is getting swamped by cameras and looks his usual shy self
>suddenly brightens when Dave Filoni comes over to chat and starts messing with his cowboy hat
>>78188804
I don't know what to expect honestly
Oh hey, Filoni.
>>78188766
Artefacts would stick around, yes, but not the location of them. I'm sure Palpatine had a dozen vaults filled with such things, and only a few people in the galaxy would have the knowledge of their location.
>>78188892
Hat stays on...
>>78188879
Wait really? That's fucking cute.
dat remixed imperial march from Rebels
I hope they interview Lucas
lmao Ford has definitley had a few tonight
>>78188880
I was nervous and then some anons told me to relax. I did and enjoyed the hype train.
Then I saw more trailers, read a little more into the back story and I was like "oh".
The icing on the cake for me right now is what Lucas said about the movie.
>>78188397
>AUGH why can't I marry Space Mama?
because you ain't in space little man
Ford is fucking wasted
"Do you feel pressure anymore?"
>Nah, not really. You can always blame JJ. I just work here.
Harrison Ford ran out of fucks to give around Temple of Doom I think.
>>78189097
really?
>>78189156
yes, he could barely speak during that interview.
>>78189191
fuck. that's kinda sad
>>78189220
Nah, I'm sure weed is the only way Ford can get through this.
>>78189220
he seemed to be enjoying himself
ITS LUCAS
Where are you guys seeing this shit?
George always looks like he's on the verge of tears
Fuck that felt weird.
>>78189312
StarWars.com. Or Youtube, take your pick.
>something something Jurassic Park
>something something Squash you like a bug
Wat
Who was that talking shit to Pottery?
I hope they save Boba from the sarlacc in nucanon. It just seems sad that he was such a badass even during TCW, but when it comes time for RotJ, he just gets wasted. The concept of a sarlacc is dumb anyways, you would die of dehydration before it even gets to torture you for that long.
>>78189366
>>78189370
I think it was just an old friend. Clearly someone who worked on the Jurassic Franchise.
>>78189366
Lucas meant that TFA will outgross Jurassic World.
>Spielberg's here
I think this is like his 4th watch now
>>78189370
he was the Producer of Jurassic World
>>78189314
Considering what he said in two interviews. He probably is. Especially with how disappointed he is with the movie.
He compared it to a bad break up and him just showing up is wishing his ex-wife the best.
>>78189366
>>78189400
Frank Marshall, producer of Jurassic World and husband of Kathleen Kennedy.
>>78189388
>The concept of a sarlacc is dumb anyways, you would die of dehydration before it even gets to torture you for that long.
It would be cool if you just kind of lived in it and ate scraps to survive. Then those who didn't kill themselves immediately would find out some gasses were slowly dissolving their skin.
>>78189220
>>78189191
Doesn't he have anxiety?
>>78189388
>badass even during TCW
Are you sure you were watching TCW?
>>78189433
I heard he loved it
>>78189433
Did he vocally say that he disliked the movie or are you talking out of your own ass?
>>78189472
He did, people are gonna presume shit all the time though.
>>78189444
>>78189388
Sarlaac has special enzymes that keep you alive for all that time. And in the EU, that'd assimilate you into a hivemind with the rest of the sentient victims.
>>78189472
>>78189489
He said he liked it, but fans will love it.
Basically he's salty as fuck that people hated the prequels.
WHERE IS HAMILL
From Filoni's Twitter
>>78189553
I think he gets more upset about people pooping on his ideas. Which is why he went to work on TCW as a passion project.
>>78189578
Daww. This actually made me smile.
>>78189578
>Ezra all by himself
>>78189468
Well, he did do pretty good against the raiders in "Bounty", even if he did get bound and gagged by Ventress at the end. But she had the Force, so what can ya do
Plus, he was pretty close to killing Mace Windu that one time.
>>78189578
Dat Hera and Kanan
>>78189578
>sabine giving hondo a handy
Jesus they're getting everyone
>>78189662
>that goofy grin he's giving
it checks out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0OIPggil7k
here's a youtube stream if you are sick of the awful disney stream
>>78189489
>>78189472
>>78189553
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/What-George-Lucas-Really-Thought-Star-Wars-Force-Awakens-98887.html
He didn't personally say he liked it, Kennedy did.
>"I think the fans are going to love it. It’s very much the kind of movie they’ve been looking for."
>>78189578
>Kanan with his arm around Hera.
> hondo looks like he's about pull out a cam.
> Sabine high as fuck.
Love this picture.
>>78189706
sadly
J J reminds me of my highschool acting teacher
>Andi: I hate sand
>Andi hates sand
>Ani hates sand
Could it be?
>I hate sand
Heh
>>78189762
Will The Wicked Witch accost Pablo at the premiere or is he safe for today?
>>78189833
Pablos hiding inside Filoni's hat
LANDO!
>We'll see
He knows
>>78189886
He beat his wife
>>78189918She probably deserved it.
>>78188511
Thats Annikin and his daughter
Mark is the best.
>>78189731
>"I think the fans are going to love it. It’s very much the kind of movie they’ve been looking for."
So nothing but nostalgia pandering geared towards OT fanboys then. I really hope 8 and 9 do something different.
Mark is so based
>>78189578
>No grand innky, 7th sister, 5tth brother
>not general kallus
m-maybe they are watching it in the imperial movie theater....
>>78190093
are choosing to ignore the new shit (knights of ren, stormtrooper as a main character)?
Mark is such a cool guy
John's got a lot of charisma
Rank the movies, and insert where you think TFA will probably end upV>IV>VII>VI>III>II>I
>one glove
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>>78190133
Nope, they're all left out in the cold, the sign on the side of the theatre says, 'No Imperial Dogs allowed' on it.
Witwer was such a smartass
>>78190245V>VII>IV>VI>III>I>II
>>78190245
5>7>4>3>6>1>2
4 and 7 might change when I've seen the movie enough times that I'm no longer hyped for it.
>one glove
I dont think hed make it that obvious but we'll see
>>78190253
THE POTTERY NEVER ENDS
These shenanigans
That mad woman
Carrie looks baaaaaaad
>this interview
They have totally lost control of the stream
this is great
>>78190364
Isaac did peepee
>>78190093
>"People don't actually realize it's actually a soap opera and it's all about family problems - it's not about spaceships. So they decided they didn't want to use those stories, they decided they were going to do their own thing[...]"
I think the fan response to the prequel really broke him. He wanted to do something different, new and innovative but old fans wanted more of the same. So Disney is giving them that.
He sort of reminds me of Kojima
Watch your fucking language Carrie
>muh progressiveness
>>78190455
gotta get them brownie points for an audience that isn't even interested in what you're selling
>>78190435
He should've hired better writers and directors then. I'm kind of sorry for him because he seems like a nice guy who doesn't deserve all the hate and bashing, but it's hard for me to sympathise with him since he never even admitted that he made mistakes.
>>78189489
He likes it. But he more or less confirmed that Kathy Kennedy's saying that they wanted to make the movie "for the fans" meant they wanted to pander to the PRACTICAL EFFECTS whiners
>>78190618
He tried. They all told him he could do it himself sadly.
>>78190631
I'll bet they had an idea how much control he would really have and didn't want anything to do with it.
>>78190618
Not only did he try to get a bunch of people to work on the movies with him, INCLUDING KASDAN who ended up telling him that he could do it himself, he openly stated he "may have gone a bit too far in some places."
>>78190455
That Stormtrooper bitch will be the worst part of the movie i can tell.
We'll know in 3 hours
I feel bad for the prequel actors, none of them were invited
>>78189445
Yeah, Ford hates being in public
Plagueis fanboys you ready to be BTFO?
>>78190774
Jake is probably behind bars or in a mental clinic and couldn't make it
>>78188892
I love that they invited him.
I know Marvel always invites the AoS cast to their premieres, but I'm not sure about the crew,
>>78190624
In this day in age in which every single movie released nowadays overuse CGI too much, it is kind of a breath of fresh air to see a big movie that relies on practical effects
>>78188880
At least with FA, we'll get a new era, meaning creators will get a new sandbox to play in.
The prequels were pretty bad, but we still got Clone Wars out of it. We're bound to get some good novels and comics out of this new era.
>>78190774
If they weren't in the movie why would they be
>>78190810
I heard he tried to commit suicide recently.
>>78190873
>We're bound to get some good novels and comics out of this new era.
Considering some of the shit we've gotten already i doubt it.
>>78190873
My opinion on the prequels is that they had bad stuff in them, but also a lot of good stuff. They are nowhere near as good as the OT, but I like them in their own rights.
>>78190719
I don't think Kasdan declined the offer because he though "George could do it himself". That's the polite way to say that Kasdan didn't want to work with George again. Maybe they had some differences or Kasdan simply wasn't okay with Lucas having too much control over the movies. I mean many writers and directors would kill to work on Star Wars, but would they still want to do it if they had to go with George's (pure) vision?
>>78190898
No, we've gotten some pretty good comics and novels like Vader, Kanan, Lost Stars, Lords of the Sith.... okay, that's pretty much it.
>>78190898
>>78190957
Loving the negativity guys. Good job!
>>78190913
Oh, yeah. Bad Star Wars is still Star Wars. There's still a lot to like about the prequels. Attack of the Clones still had all those cool Obi-Wan scenes. Phantom Menace had Pod Racing.
>>78190863
Don't bother. He's part of the autists that got triggered by the Comic Con video when they heard Mark say "practical effects" and will conveniently ignore the times people working on the film have said there will be lots of CGI, but used only when it is needed.
>>78190863
Does it really matter?
CGI looks really good these days. The best is when you can't even tell.
>tfw your waifu in the new canon is reduced to just having a name
To the Anon who is going to ask out that shy girl to the movie. Be cool about it. It's not a date. Afterwards ask her if she wants to grab a coffee or burger and talk about the movie (and maybe each otherrrrr?).
I know it's not a date, but movies are the worst place to go for a first date.
>>78190918
Eh, I can see Kasdan having a few issues with George after the whole debacle with RotJ, but we're not given any real information on what Kasdan's role would have been had he accepted. He probably would have co-wrote - and let's be honest here, the broad strokes of the prequels are fine, it's just the acting and some of the dialogue that's bad (and to some extent, that's true of the OT as well - let's see how much I get told I'm trolling for saying that).
Also, it's not as if George actually wrote the PT by himself. Carrie Fisher helped out on TPM, Jonathan Hale (I think that's his name) helped some with AotC.
Kasdan could have very well provided the counterbalance to Rick McCallum, who is really the one that I blame the most for a lot of the PT's issues since he didn't have the balls to really give Lucas any criticism (and conveniently left LucasFilm when George sold the company).
Will there be a post-show stream on Starwars.com?
>>78191062
I had a weird obsession with her as a kid.
Her actress is named Mimi Daraphet. She never acted in anything else ever again after Star Wars.
>>78191057
It will matter in ten years when the CGI of a new movie won't look good anymore. The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi still look great because of how many practical effects they used back then.
>>78189578
Who's the one at Azmorrigan's side?
>>78190435
God, I feel really bad for Lucas tonight.
And just imagine, he'll have an obligation to come to each and every one of these. If not by contract, then by social construct.
And not just the trilogy films, the spinoffs too. Rogue One, Han Solo....
>>78191074
McCallum was as a producer. His job was to make the trains run on time and not to provide constructive criticism. If you wanted to blame anyone for that blame Lucas for shutting himself from anyone who could criticize him without consequences. But blaming the guy responsible for making all the ducks line up in a role is nonsensical.
>>78191211
Aw, poor old George Lucas. He could have easily had these movies made using his ideas.
>>78190631
He went for people he knew or were his friends. Why didn't he go for someone new like the 00s version of Abrams for example instead of just sticking to a close circle of friends who refused to help him.
>>78191211
As a writer and content creator myself who would likes to have a firm grip on and consistent vision over my own work, I can certainly relate to how he might feel about this whole situation. He's trapped no matter what he does
>>78191164
>CGI of a new movie won't look good anymore
This is true of any technology. Don't be delusional. The OT is severely dated. The puppets look like dull rubber masks, the matte paintings range from bad to terrible, starships clip through things. It's badly dated but was cutting edge at the time.
>>78191074
I don't think hiring Kasdan as a writer would've changed that much. Now, the dialogue and the pacing of the prequels would've probably got a lot better, but those things were only the tip of the iceberg. You're probably right about McCallum though. George needed a producer who would constantly challenge him and sort out the bad ideas. Kasdan couldn't have done it because a writer simply doesn't have much power and George openly admits that he doesn't like to listen when directing a movie. If he would always listen to Larry Kasdan's suggestions, then Han would've died in ROTJ, we wouldn't have gotten the ewoks and Leia wouldn't be Luke's sister. And George wasn't even directing ROTJ.
>>78190631
>>78190719
God, the story of Lucas and the prequels is a fucking tragedy.
He had to write, cast, produce, and direct three films. And he knew he wasn't a good enough director to do it, but he wanted to make an effort anyways.
I know this is going into "poor little rich boy" territory, but I feel kinda bad for him.
>>78191440
THIS THIS THIS
cgi is not at all inferior to practical effects.
Also, I just watched episode 3 again, and EVERY SINGLE PEICE OF DIALOGUE IS PERFECTLY PLACED. THE WHOLE MOVIE IS YOU STRAPPED TO A ROCKET SHIP HEADED FOR A NEW HOPE.
I LOVE YOU LUCAS I'M NOT EVEN WATCHING THIS NEW FAN FICTION TRILOGY.
I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY SAY, THE PREQUELS ARE AT LEAST AS GOOD AS THE OT TO ME.
>>78188269
Come back when they can actually afford lightsabers
>>78191211
>"Now I’m faced with this awkward reality, which is fine. I gotta go to the wedding. My ex will be there, my new wife will be there, but I’m going to have to take a very deep breath and be a good person and sit through it and just enjoy the moment, because it is what it is and it’s a conscious decision that I made."
>>78191566
>being this butthurt
>>78191566
Jar Jar is a funnier character than he's ever done before. Once he got him working, everything fell in place.
>>78191328
But he DIDN'T shut himself off from criticism. He openly went for help. Just because he didn't get it doesn't mean he didn't try. Revisionist historians should leave here.
And yes, being a producer ALSO means that he provides criticism when necessary. It's not just "I provide all the tech and money and make sure things get done on time" it's "if the director is doing something that I disagree with, I bring it up with them."
>>78191372
Because he wanted people he could trust, not just the latest flash in the pan.
Also, arguably he might not have been able to do much recruiting since he defied all the Hollywood guilds while making the OT.
>>78191523
Maybe. I think it could have definitely cleaned some things up, but the general story for the PT had basically been in place since the 80s.
>>78191536
It's weird, because individual scenes for the PT show off some gorgeous framing and cinematography and shows a lot of interesting ideas, but then you get the dialogue and it's just awkward as hell.
I was reading an article that I think was linked here a few threads back that talked about a lot of George's influences. It brought up a lot of interesting stuff that I had no idea about.
http://www.ferdyonfilms.com/2015/star-wars-episode-one-the-phantom-menace-1999-episode-two-attack-of-the-clones-2002-episode-three-revenge-of-the-sith-2005/26568/
>>78191711
>yfw Jar Jar at his worst is mildly annoying, and at his best can actually get some chuckles
When is new episode?! I JUST CAUGHT UP HOLY FUCKKKKKKKKK
>>78191912
Next Wednesday since Star Wars comes out this week
does anyone have that webm of kylo turning around menacingly in his room?
>>78191912
not til january
>>78181035
> The Falcon is gone, and has eluded every attempt by her former owners to track her down.
> Recently recovered Millennium Falcon
On the same damn page, why even bother with the upper text?The Millennium Falcon is she.
>>78188030
Most people here will see it then. You dip.
>>78188035
It's easy to be right when you say vauge shit. If you can show me a borderline autistically specific breakdown of a scene, number and or placement of characters, I might be impressed come Thursday night. Otherwise, it's just "wow a vauge prediction wasn't 100% wrong, yeah stunning."
In fact, fuck you I'm going to go look again at msw and see how "prophithetic" that shit is.
>>78192192
>spoiler
Ships are always female
>>78192192
She is a ship.
So, yeah.
>>78192192
Inanimate objects are almost always female. I call my guitar by 'she'. I couldn't say 'he', what are you, gay?
>>78191727
>dat link
INSANELY GOOD READI agree with him. RoTS is the best film in the saga.
>kylo can freeze blaster bolts in mid-air
so much for powerlevels being toned down
>>78192378
wait what? source!
>>78192378
Next thing you're telling me he can shit lightning
>>78192378
I'm just surprised that hasn't been done before by a force user.
>>78192378
Stopping a blaster bolt seems way weaker than ripping a Star Destroyer out of the air.
>>78192403
>>78192428
>>78192440
>>78192447
Do I even need to say it?
>>78192447
Yet Vader couldn't do it, and he was said to be the most powerful force user ever.
>>78192500
He didn't have to stop them. He smacked a blaster bolt out of the air with his hand.
>>78192539
No, he was wearing armor you dingus.
>>78192575
Because armor in Star Wars in totally effective.
>>78192575
No, he was Darth Vader.
>>78191727
>These three protagonists each aid in creating the destruction of the world they think they’re defending. The prequels depict a world falling apart and tellingly refuse to let the audience off the hook, no matter how distanced or naïf the rendering of that hook: almost everything the audience wants to see is bound up in this decay. The desire to see action is sated, but immediately indicted by Yoda as proof of failure. The romance of Anakin and Padmé slips its bonds, but signals impending doom for both. The daydream sustained in the original trilogy is therefore critiqued and inverted.
Yes, exactly, pre-fucking-cisely
>tfw I bought the last ticket available for my theater
>tfw I didn't realize it was the audio description version for the blind
>>78192575
>>78192628
>>78192630
He also had no real hand that could be damaged underneath those gloves.
I thought a new Rebels episode released on Saturday the 12th? where is it?
>>78192681
I would suggest returning it if it was for any other movie but Star Wars. I guess it just becomes a visual audio drama now?
>>78181035
In my head this is a former Trade Federation general cargo ship
>>78192705
In Australia
>>78192681
I bought the tickets for the closed caption version by mistake. Not a big deal, since I tend to watch Netflix with subs on anyways.
>>78192705
There wasn't one, don't know why you thought there would be. Maybe some country watches the new episode on Saturday? The only thing on last weekend was a marathon and the last episode was 'Legacy'.
>>78192705
Hoax
>>78192783
>>78192784
it's still listed as release date Dec 12 on imdb
>>78192681
My friends and I coordinated at the last minute. We ended up buying a 3D showing at 8:30 at a rural theater.
it all worked out in the end.
>>78192681
Does your theater not have separate in-ear devices for the audio versions?
I haven't heard of them doing the description over the main audio in years. I believe you, I just didn't know they still did that.
Welp, now I'm all caught up too.
Aaaand...y'know, sitting there without more episodes.
Fug
Kinda glad this thread forewarned me a bit about the bounty hunter chick episode, that one was REALLY weak. Still, one episode out of...didn't count, that's ok. Looking forward to more.
The frustration at not being able to snog Hera continues to linger tho.
>>78181760
Who says it's not going to be the end of Finn?I encountered a theory in a previous thread that Kylo Ren is blind and uses the Force to see, which might make him a bit clumsier than you'd expect.
>>78192777
The theater I'm going to does closed captioning, but only on a handheld device if requested. The subs don't show up on the screen, which isn't a problem for me at least.
>>78192812
Rebels Recon for Legacy said there would be no more episodes this year. Considering these videos come directly from the main SW office, I doubt the "special" episode will happen for the US.
>>78192826
I got mine for some ghetto theater. At least if it's terrible, they'll be some good nigga commentary.
Seriously, see a shit movie in the ghetto. Makes it worth it to hear that shit.
>>78192229
>http://makingstarwars.net/2015/02/star-wars-force-awakens-rumor-mill-snow-planet-name-pseudonyms-super-weapons/
>Death Star 3 code name
>this weapon can detect Jedi across the galaxy and is used by the empire to hunt them down. This is why some Jedi are in hiding
WOW GUYS NOTHING DISPROVEN HERE
MSW IS BASED ACCURATE
Are you fucking kidding me?
This is the shit you msw faggots have been praising? Please tell me this is just a coincidentally named website.
>it then goes on about how Leia has to decide whether to blow up a planet to destroy code-name-death-star-3.
You are utterly retarded if you honestly believe this shlock. We already can tell Starkiller base isn't some Jedi tracking device, and the Alliance doesn't have their own death-star tier weapon to destroy a planet, NOR WOULD THE ALLIES OF THE JEDI DO SUCH A THING.
Jesus this is more cringeworthy than plagueis faggotry.
For the love of god tell me this isn't the same msw as the one you guys were using, I refuse to believe any of you are dumb enough to go along with this shit. I've had too many good conversations here. Call me the retard, say what you must, but please, direct me to the right place if this is the wrong msw.
This is surreal.
Why does Jar Jar get so much hate when C-3PO has always been just as whiny and arguably more useless?
>>78192901
>STILL can't handle that MSW was and is right
24 karat autism
>>78192939
At least Threepio was clever in his first appearance. Wonder why they made him more whiny in the other movies...
Have you guys given the Kylo Ren videogames a try?
>>78192939
Because Jar Jar's annoying and in a manner that lets him be interpreted as a racist stereotype
>>78193050
>Kylo being like Travis
If only. But the movie isn't rated high enough that he could go around calling people fuckheads.
>>78192681
>Be legally blind
>Can basically only see light and vague color blobs
>No theater near me offers audio description
>>78192901
>starkiller base actually is a jedi detector
>doesn't blow up anything, just points at them with an obscenely large laser
>Luke is hiding because he's sick of it shining in his eyes all day
>>78193141
Shit, I never realized that there are probably blind people here
>>78192901
Yeah, there would actually need to be to Jedis around to make that work but so far it seems there aren't any. Again.
Ugh.
>>78187471
No, it really shouldn't be Plagueis.
Plagueis achieved the ability to cheat death AS PALPATINE DESCRIBED IN HIS STORY TO ANAKIN.
But he couldn't evade it forever. Palpatine killed Plagueis in his sleep.
The revelation that Snoke is not Plagueis should be met with a sigh of relief from everyone. Plagueis is dead, just like Sheev said.
And if Snoke isn't a Sith, that's even better. The Sith should be gone. They should be dead. Vader's sacrifice was supposed to kill the Sith for good. We NEED to preserve that.
>>78193176
>Luke is hiding because he's sick of it shining in his eyes all day
Nah. He's hiding because his actor is too busy mocaping for a videogame that is the spiritual successor of something he enjoyed way more than Star Wars.
>>78192979
>that was the right msw
Oh my fucking God.
>it fucking ends with the actors praising the prequels for being full of new ideas and downplaying the new trilogy for rehashing new ideas
Based on what the actors responses have been publicly, that's bullshit. They hate the pt, but they sure as hell ain't singing praises. This site is utter garbage, fan fiction tier hokum. I'm now looking forward to the end of the week so I can revel in the assdamage of every msw fanboy as their ridiculous nonsense is torn to shreds before their eyes. It's even better than Snoke's bust hurting plagueis-fag rectum's.
Fucking Christ /swr/, are you sure this is the right site? I'm legit asking, I don't want to get hyped up only to be let down I was booty-blasted over the wrong thing.
>>78193224
gimme dat saucé fām
I kinda hope that Finn does eventually become a jedi.I just want him to be Kyle Katran 2.0
>>78192939
The voice
>>78193186
Dude. Episodes 1-3 were the Fall of the Jedi arc. Episode 4-6 were the Fall of the Sith arc.
Episode 7 opens up with the new Jedi order slaughtered by a neo-Sith, and then some new Force sensitives defeat him. This is an echo of both Fall arcs, a reminder of what's come before... And exactly the sort of thing that will start up a new arc featuring theReturn of the Jedi.
>>78193255
Eh, I was mostly joking, but it IS true that he's mocaping for Squadron 42
>>78193368
I just think it's bullshit that we're just 30 years after Return of the Jedi and we basically have gone back to A New Hope here. Maybe they should have skipped a few centuries ahead, but they had to use the fanservice of Han, Luke, Leia and Chewie to draw in fans.
>>78193178
Yeah, but fortunately Star Wars is so expansive as a franchise that it can still be enjoyed by the blind. Netflix added audio descriptions for the blind and I can come here for the audio books.
I hate that Disney does not provide audio services for Rebels. And I hate the narrator for the Blu-Ray editions. Sounds like a children's museum audio narrator.
>>78193289
I hope he dies.
>>78193460
>Sounds like a children's museum audio narrator.
If only the show wasn't actually for children
>>78193476
>Sounds like a children's museum audio narrator.
Really? My gf is blind (yes, I know, the only way I could've gotten someone as qt as her, etc.) and I thought the narrator was pretty lively and perfect for a family film. Especially when you consider it's also for blind kids.
Though, I may be biased as a sighted person.
>>78193460
>a bloo bloo bloo I'm a nerd who hates the OT because it doesnt have "le deep lore"
>>78193546
b-buh muh darkness muh umbara muh needing validation for watching a kids show
>>78191727
>“You’ve often said that Star Wars movies are primarily meant for children, but The Phantom Menace was always going to be a film that was going to be significant for twenty/thirtysomethings. How did you address this problem?"
>Basically I didn’t. I kept it as it was originally intended. You can’t play too much to the marketplace. It’s the same thing with the fans. The fans’ expectations had gotten way high and they wanted a film that was going to change their lives and be the Second Coming. You know, I can’t do that, it’s just a movie. And I can’t say, now I gotta market it to a whole different audience. I tell the story. I knew if I’d made Anakin 15 instead of nine, then it would have been more marketable. If I’d made the Queen 18 instead of 14, then it would have been more marketable. But that isn’t the story. It is important that he be young, that he be at an age where leaving his mother is more of a drama than it would have been at 15. So you just have to do what’s right for the movie, not what’s right for the market.”
>tfw he saw everything leading up to the decision to make TFA and the new movies going forward "for the fans" coming as far back as 1999
>http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/star-wars-archive-george-lucas-1999-interview/
>>78193558
I think he may have been talking about Rebels. Though that's how I'd describe the Blu-Ray version, though. But I think it works.
Blind gf too. Pretty girl, get the same remarks you do about being the only way I'd get someone as nice as her. You want to go on a doubleblinddate?
>>78193460
30 years of a budding government trying to rebuild after a massive civil war and the government-in-exile retreating to parts unknown and developing in isolation... The New Republic and the Resistance don't sound like they're a small guerrilla force this time around, it sounds like we're in for a full-scale shit hits the fan war.
>>78193590
Dude, I LOVE the OT. That's why I don't want to see a redux version of it.
>>78193616
Lucas is the opposite of a sell out, memers be damned.
>>78193558
>>78193625
>>78193638
Ha, when implants become a thing, you guys are fucked
>>78193653
>Apocolypse Now Redux
>Listen All Yall starts playing
BRAVO JJ it's like poetry
>>78193648
If they actually decide to do something with that in the movies and don't relegate that stuff to another animated series.
>>78193692
Then everyone can have their own Brobot like Lando!
>>78180801
Sooo are these precursors to the Imperial Raider?
>>78193703
So let me guess, in Episode VIII Kylo and Finn will have an epic fight, in which Finn will lose his hand and then Kylo reveals to him that he was cloned from his genetic material?
>>78193692
My gf is deaf. I look pretty normie, but my autism shows when I start talking.
Perfect.
>>78193658
Oh yeah.
If Lucas had been a sellout, the reception of the Special Edition in 1997 would have torpedoed the entire prequel project immediately. He would have shoved the Special Edition in the back room for good and made the laser discs the standard forever, because that would have had the greatest mass appeal and made him the most money.
He plowed ahead instead and told the story he wanted to tell. He stayed true to himself regardless of the consequences. And the mob crucified him for it.
>>78193806
>And the mob crucified him for it.
While throwing their money at his feet. Say what you want about the special editions but his bank account says you love him.
>>78193648
>The New Republic
In Some spoilers, it's said they aren't even fighting this and have opted to ignore the First Order, either by choice or by agreements the First Order and New Republic have reached politically. The Resistance and the FO are going to be fighting against each other.
>>78193845
So wait, are the Resistance a group that are now also opposing the New Republic or what?
>>78193845
It does seem they have a treaty. They're in a Cold War phase. The Resistance are the "secretly" government funded terrorists fighting against the enemy of the New Republic while claiming no allegiance to them. The First Order are building super weapons that are most assuredly against the treaty but banking on the fact that by the time the New Republic finds out about them it'll be too late.
No treaty lasts forever.
>>78193955
Ah, and here I was hoping we'd get the plot of Zeta Gundam here with the New Republic being The Earth Sphere, the Resistence being the AEUG and the First Order being the Principality of Zeon and it would end in a three way fight.
>>78193885
No, I think it like: the First Order starts shit in the territories around them, the places that's being beleaguered by the First Order go to the New Republic government to get help, but the New Republics hands are tied and they can't do shit except wish them luck on their endeavors. The territories are now taking matters into their own hands and are now calling themselves the Resistance and are fighting the First Order by themselves.
>buy two tickets to Ep 7
>Taking my father
>he forgot he had an appointment
>Both movie planning + appointment made months in advance
>he never checked
>tfw my father just bailed on me and my premiere night ticket i fought hard to get for us
>>78194090
So pretty much the systems that aren't even part of the Republic.
I bet Old Lady Hera is all up in that shit.
>>78194100
What kind of appointment did he have?
>>78193139
He's still a hyper-aggressive fanboy whose lightsaber is made out of garbage.
>>78192939
Bandwagon hate.
I'm hoping it will disappear after the release of TFA. It just occurred to me Star Wars as a perception will be completely different in 50 years.
>>78192939
C-3PO is just a fucking appliance, we have him reprogrammed, and by cannon he's been reprogrammed more than once or worse we can buy a new one.
>funny how star wars never deals with the social gravity of legal slavery through sentient droids was there never a Terminator or Matrix like scenario in the Star Wars universe? Sure the Trade Federation were droids, but they were tools for their organic masters not robots fighting against organics for robot rights or anything.
>>78193658
What a guy
>>78194165
Eye surgery, so he can't go to the movie with me later either, even though its the day before not the day of. Which he booked -after- me buying the tickets so he should of known. On top of this, the non-intrusive surgery could be rescheduled to another day and isn't a "must do right now" thing.
To add, me and him have not done any "family" things since 2008. I'm trying to bond with him before he passes away, because he has a bad heart and no idea what time he has left...
I mean yeah I know, medical is more important than a fucking movie, right? Yet this isn't something he couldn't have done a month ago, or 3 months from now....AFTER I bought the tickets he scheduled this.
>>78194194
Hey, don't talk shit about Dr. Naomi's stuff.Can we get a Kylo Ren edit of the "Moe" scene?
>>78193289
>Doesn't want him to evolve into a new well establish character
>Instead wants to re-hash the same shit over again
Go home JJ, you're drunk
>>78194090
>>78192901
>For the love of god tell me this isn't the same msw as the one you guys were using, I refuse to believe any of you are dumb enough to go along with this shit. I've had too many good conversations here. Call me the retard, say what you must, but please, direct me to the right place if this is the wrong msw.
Right website, wrong article. Generally when people are referring to the MSW leaks they are talking about this one, which has so far been very accurate.
http://makingstarwars.net/2015/05/a-compiled-synopsis-of-star-wars-the-force-awakens/
>>78193508
This. And I don't say that in a mean way, but everyone thinks he's the new main character, what with him holding the lightsaber and all, so no one is actually expecting him to die, coupled with the fact that the black guy dying first is a cliche that everyone tries to avoid these days.
Requesting the Jar Jar navy seal copypasta
>>78194233
That does suck man.
Best of luck to you my friend, dealing with family is, at best, a strain.
Maybe you could tell him the importance of what this means to you, he might listen.
>>78194260
That guy was a terrible actor.
>>78194260
To be honest it feels like the Middle East.
>>78194381
Eh, no worse than Avery.
>>78188269
This gets funnier every time I see it.
now think how good he would look if he didn't let himself get at.
>>78194243
Naomi's stuff is pretty aces (love my Peony). But Bloodberry was bought from e-bay and is a lot rougher in design than even some of the beam katanas regular enemies use.
Btw, have this.
>>78194559
He actually looks splendid. This film, no matter how panderous, helped him and Carrie a ton.
>>78194305
So let me get this straight.
Someone watched all the trailers, filled in the gaps with /Star Wars/ stuff, and a few random things like a fucking lightsaber surviving re-entry (for fucks sake it's not magic it's made out of well reinforced steel, it'd still be fucked up), and called it a day? And the "Kylo and Rey are siblings, children of Han and Leia" shit is contrived as fuck.
That's the legendary msw article?
That's it?
/swr/ what the fuck is wrong with you? This is the most copy pasted EU-borrowing garbage I've ever heard in the nu-canon. I sure hope you guys don't like this thing.
Avoid /tv/.
Some people are saying they saw the premier but obviously many are lying however there may be actual spoilers.
>>78194673
I can't wait for you to see the movie and start throwing an autism fit when most of that article is right
>>78194707
All of them are lying.
You think some sperg from /tv/ got invited to go to a special premiere?
>>78194653
Yeah, I'm not sure where this 'aged badly' thing comes from. It's not like he's Val Kilmer or something.
>>78194707
Just knowing /tv/ exists is reason enough to avoid it.
>>78194756
Time has definitely not been kind to Val.
>>78194731
I'm not going to lie, I'd be a bit upset if MSW is right.
Only after the months-long glow of watching TFA wore off though.
>>78194783For you
>>78194673
>Someone watched all the trailers
That article came out when we only had one trailer. And every trailer since then has just showed scenes that are exactly as described in that leak. So don't believe it all you want but you're in for the ass blasting of your life come thursday.
>>78194802
The only thing I'll be mad about is the lightsaber tumbling from space. Unless they have a good explanation for it.
>>78194867
So, how did it get off of Bespin anyway? It fell down that pit, so I'm not sure if it fell into a tunnel which opened up into nothing like the one Luke fell into, or if it was picked up by a garbage chute.
>>78194895
Thats the thing I'm confused about. Unless they actually show the story of how it got to the upper atmosphere of Jakku I'll be kinda upset.
>>78194731
>rehash of the EU's Jacen and Jaina Solo, with the gayest looking Sith, Jacen
>featuring one contrived bullshit event after another to match up with the trailers, oops thats just the article, but that's a funny coincidence ain't it
>all that actually being made by a big budget director and being cleared by anyone at the story group at all
How up your own ass are you, and how are you typing simultaneously?
Genuinely curious.
This is like thinking revan or plagueis is Kylo ren, you're delusional and autistically projecting EU shit onto the blank slate of a new narrative. It's annoying obviously, so finding out a lot of people here honestly believe it this hard, even after plagueis fags got blown the fuck out with that snoke bust? It's stunning. That's the whole of my reaction. I got too used to seeing eye to eye here, and now I'm blown away that this many people here are acting retardedly devoted to a flimsy fan-wank prediction whose source if self-professed "hear-say".
Christ it could say "my dad works at lucasfilm" and you fucks would probably buy into it and defend it just as hard.
I'm more pissed off by that actually. It's literally baseless and you guys are just eating it up. Fuck off with that nonsense.
Fuck it. I'm done getting riled up about this. I've made my points. Whatever, believe your theories, we'll find out the truth over the next few days.
>>78194008
Actually, the First Order is the Titans.
So yeah, it is Zeta.
>>78194895
A display at comic-con revealed that it was found by a junker or scavenger in Bespin's lower city
>>78195020
Friendo, it's gonna be a rehash. Of ideas from the EU and the general plot structure of ANH. Get over it now or you're really gonna have a bad time at the theater.
>>78195020
I can't wait until you open up your wrists after watching that EU rehash shit. The fanboy tears will be glorious on opening night.
>>78194841
>someone can't have just seen the trailers pre-release and posted a synopsis based on it
What's more likely? One of the many who'd be able to see the clips from the trailers before hand posting about them, or one of the few on set posting about that? It's more likely than you want to think, I know, but it's still in stride with everything else. It would be unseen footage at the time, but nothing spoiler heavy either. Than some EU fanboy took all of that and sewed it together in that article. He even says it's just pieces from other articles. You're saying a stitched mess from other articles is 100% accurate? Actually, in context of early-trailer viewing, that'd be in line too.
Oh shit, I think I just cracked MSW.
Some TV broadcast company workers or mid-tier editors got to help on the trailers/get them ready for broadcast, leaked about scenes and rumors, which were factored into that summary article.
I've done it!
I've theorized the source! Fuck you faggots! There's no objective necessity to this being accurate to anything but the trailers. Fuck yeah.
>>78195134
>>78195111
he sounds like one of those mando fanboys that cant get over how the nu-canon castrated them
>>78195185
>doesn't want more of the same shit
>I bet he wants more of the same shit
Literally retarded
Or you're just saying I'm someone you don't like because I'm disagreeing with you.
Nice argument fagtron.
>>78195179
good for you bud enjoy getting disappointed
>>78195044
Nah, First Order are literally (1st) Neo Zeon, a bunch of unrepentant Space Nazis and their descendants who exiled themselves to deep space then returned with a new army and impractical super weapons.
Only difference is Neo Zeon was led by a hot, evil chick rather than a Darth Vader fanboy.
>>78195263
So, it's ZZ?Then who's Jewdough?
>>78195263
>DSIII actually has every weakness covered
>"OPEN FIRE ON CORUSCANT!"
>Left the safety on.
>Stumble to turn it off
>Hit self destruct button instead.
How embarrassed would you be?
>>78195226
not saying you want the same shit just that you're being a whiny faggot about stuff thats in the new canon
>>78195179
Because they totally made every single trailer day 1 and not as they were coming out or anything. And then they sent all those trailers out to tv companies to sit on months in advance. Because that's totally how trailers are made.
>>78195327
Basically, yeah.Rey would probably be Jewdough. Scavenger and with strong Force/Newtype swag.
>>78195354
The making part is more a month or so in advance, but a week ahead I could imagine for some broadcasts. Some.
well I'd hate to see a "spoiler" before the movie comes out, so I'm out. See you fags Friday morning.
>mfw these fucking "spoilers"
>>78195341
>anon doesn't buy into a popular but self-admitted weakly-based prediction
>F-Faggot I bet he's a mando fag too! Y-yeah that's it! He's just a dummy!
Don't defend shitposting. You're only making yourselves look bad
>>78195605
Hope you like getting keked then.
>>78188349
It does. Like it still doesn't feel real and the fact that it comes out the day after my school graduation doesn't really help the surreal factor.
>>78188804
Don't remind me about that game. It had one of the most GOAT game trailers ever and the final product was just garbage. Thank fuck Isolation was good.
>>78192681
>>tfw I didn't realize it was the audio description version for the blind
I would feel so cheated.
"And now we have an extended shot of a great convoy of weapon ladden post-apocalyptic vehicles being led by a giant truck covered in drummers and topped by a guy playing a flamethrower guitar- all done with practical effects."
Fuck.
>>78186323
>carrie fisher now looks like my gran
>>78196123
And Harrison Ford looks like a melted candle. People age, anon.
>>78189578
>Banishing Ezra to his own row
>>78196188
You just know he's the type to get handsy.
>>78191328
>McCallum was as a producer. His job was to make the trains run on time and not to provide constructive criticism.
But that's exactly what his job was. A producer in Hollywood is not merely a man who takes care of logistics, he is the highest-level person in charge of overall vision (and business rationale presented to the studio, in normal cases), just like George himself was for OT. Insisting on, say, hiring a better dialogue writer to edit the script (the general plot in PT is just fine, and of all actors only Natalie Portman and whomever played kid Anakin can be said to act badly, it is dialogue and certain stupid episodes that are the stumbling block) was his responsibility.
https://youtu.be/OUC-Hot1zhg
spoiler videos are starting to pop up
>>78192500
Vader could do it. Happened in Twilight Company.
>>78196493
I don't recall him ripping a destroyer out of the air in Twilight Company. He did yank a freighter out of the air in Lords of the Sith though.
>>78181171
>>78181047
i know i'm extremely late
But i kind of understand the spin this time as opposed to other star wars spins
He's recovering from the saber swing and leading into another attack
He was open from that swing regardless because of how he did it
It helps finn is scared
Wait so not only is episode 7 rehashing episode 4 it is also rehashingthe shit ties part of the eu that wasn't jedi battle meditation? Why?
>>78181047
I love how the "Jedi Killer" has to try this hard against Finn.
>>78197571
please understand that jj and kasdan don't know shit about the eu. if there are similarities between the eu and tfa it's because the eu consists of 30 years and thousands of stories.
kill yourself, you mongoloid.
>>78197740
But it was onr of te most recent sagas. And it was so shit. Why remake it but worse.
>>78197740
>>78197571
guess this just means kasdan is a shit writer.
>>78197705finn is probably force sensitive
NEW THREAD
>>78198042
>>78198042
>>78198042
>>78198042
>>78197740
>jj and kasdan don't know shit about the eu
JJ read some of the old EU
>>78192689
If shooting a battle droid 'kills' it, I'm pretty sure shooting a prosthesis would mess it up pretty good too.
>>78194707
>Avoid /tv/.
Good advice to live by in general.
>>78198344
That's a good one.
