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Why are Martians always portrayed stronger than humans despite coming from a planet with weaker gravity than Earth. Infact, are their any /co/ related aliens that don't surpass human strength?
>>77711985
>Infact, are their any /co/ related aliens that don't surpass human strength?
Martians in any given adaptation of John Carter?
>>77711985
You may as well extend your complaint to pretty much all aliens.
>>77711985
John Carter was significantly stronger that the martians he encountered.
Read a book.
>>77711985
The only thing I can think of wig that problem is that stupid manga with the super human bugs things
>>77711985
At the time most of those were created the idea "what would it be like on mars" was like how we'd think "what would like be like in dimension X".
> are their any /co/ related aliens that don't surpass human strength?
Yes. The first one in fact. War of the Worlds portrayed martians as frail and physically weak outside of their armored walkers.
>>77712215
>>77712652
Mah niggas.
>>77711985
HFY thread?
Ah, but Martian bodies are designed to work in an atmosphere with significantly less oxygen. While the gravity is stronger, the oxygen levels compensate enough that their bodies operate more efficiently.
>>77713485
God please no, we get enough of that shit on tg.
>>77713645
I thought they died out over there, haven't seen one outside of the archives.
40k doesn't really count.
/k/'s the only place I recall a couple.
>>77713519
>>77712252
Toriyama had some weak ones before Dragonball. I think even in Dragonball there are weak ones among innocent alien victims
Oxygen is toxic. We only tolerate it because we evolved to use it. But even on us oxygen causes damage as it oxidize molecules that are not meant to be oxidized.
>>77712680
DC's martians dude.
>>77713877
Terra Akbar.
>>77714108
>Oxygen is toxic
So is Carbon dioxide, now imagine a race who tolerate it because they were evovled to use it.
How do you guys feel about Disney's spooky Mars animals from the 50s?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfX6z9Z4sAk
>>77715007
Carbon dioxide is pretty stable. Our atmosphere was full of CO2 early on. When so e lifeforms managed to produce energy at the cost of farthing toxic gas they flooded the atmosphere with that gas killing many of the other lifeforms only them life evolved to use O2.
You can inject carbon dioxide in a person abdominal cavity without much issues but if you inject pure oxygen that person is going to suffer a lot.
>>77714822
Flak 88 best UFO defense.
if I was to make a story about space, humans wouldn't be the basic model weaklings we are always portrayed as.
what if perhaps compared to other alien races, we were the powerful giants, like we are the wookies of the galaxy
what if 3 and a half feet tall was the galactic average? and space people only weighed 50 earth pounds?
>>77715824
They have the technological advantage
Mars attacks. That boxer guy wooped the shit out of those martians
>>77715979
I am going to make a space opera, and the main character isn't even going to be humanoid. its going to be a hivemind of asexual worms living as a collective super organism in a 3 foot tall pile
like this thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcKpx2DxGwYthat pipe by the way is carrying drinking water
>>77711985
>John Carter
>>77715824
isn't Earth a heavy world? If our gravity was any higher, leaving earth via our current methods would be basically impossible due to the weight of fuel used for lift of being too much to over come.
>>77716217
without researching and going off hand, I am going to say yes because of how retardedly dense our planet is. it has a core about 50% larger than a typical planet of the same size because of the collision with planet X way back when. We picked up part of its core and made it ours.
so I would anticipate us to be considerably stronger under the normal gravity of an earth-like planet
>>77716217
Pretty much. I had a screencap of the post explaining it, but lost it.
>>77716317
didn't that collision give us that fuckhuge iron core?
I'm pretty sure that planets like ours just have to be dense, since that'd mean that they have enough metal to form a magnetosphere to shield from the solar wind
I remember in Mars Attacks humans fought back the Martians to Mars and blew it the fuck up
>>77716167
who?
>>77716458
because we had tom jones in our corner. He could have deflected the entire armada with the power of his voice alone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTerMbNRe3U
>>77716473
People like you are why we can't have nice things.
>>77716161
>its going to be a hivemind of asexual worms living as a collective super organism
so like these guys
>>77716404
that collision was a pretty key factor in life happening all together. If there was a god, that planet was his fist
>responsible for the moon and in turn tides
>responsible for atmosphere
>responsible for tectonic plates
>responsible for the tilt
>responsible for magnetic poles
>>77714108
I also enjoyed Pikmen.
>>77715563
lets get nuts here for a minute and consider the fact we drink water. That's some corrosive shit.
>>77715007
Plants?
>>77716161
>that pipe by the way is carrying drinking water
You can't even read the video title?
>>77711985
Dude.
H. G. fucking Wells even wrote about how they're just slimy physically poor creatures with their intellect as their only advantage.
>>77713317
so this
>>77717104
Also humans. We even drink supersaturated CO2 solutions just because we think it feels good when pure CO2 pops in our mouth. We call it sodas.
Aside from this yeast lives and breeds on supersaturated CO2 solutions with no oxygen without any problems.
>>77717164
the person calls it a sewer, but its a reservoir system supplying water to homes in a gated community.
don't trust the word of a guy that calls what is clearly a colony of worms an "unknown life form"
sewers aren't an ideal place for most organisms. Those worms need a clean flowing supply of fresh water. How they ended up in there is anybodies guess.
The martian in the original War of the Worlds were significantly weaker than humans, they just had badass technology to compensate.
The image is what I remember them looking like from the book, though it's been awhile sicne I've read it and so I might be wrong.
>>77711985
It bugs me more how pretty much every alien in fiction has a much longer lifespan than humans.
>>77716473
wasn't that supposed to be the problem with the movie? whoever was in charge of the marketing thought everyone already knew who the fuck he was, and they didn't bother actually selling the story?
>>77716640
Asexual? How do they reproduce?
>>77717403
it bugs me that aliens are always the same size as us, for all we know there are aliens out there that are giants compared to us because of the gravity on their planet.
>>77717509
ffffffffffffffffffffff
why can't sjws come up with their own words for things?
Because they're aliens. Aliens are always stronger, smarter, more durable, etc.
>>77717509
Asexually.
>>77717648
So they are nothing but clones? That doesn't seem sustainable.
>>77717688
That depends on the exact reproduction method.
If they are not simply just splitting in two mutations will happen.
>>77715979
Provided that they didn't focus on certain technologies while ignoring others like in The Road Not Taken.
>Martians invade Earth
>Somehow convinced they can survive on a planet where the gravity is 3 times stronger and has a climate at least twice as hot
>>77718293
could humans survive on Mars or is colonization just a fantasy?
>>77718677
There is the possibility of terraforming but we haven't quite figured it out.
>>77718677
survive and thrive are different. we could put outposts there, could house humans and all that. but I wouldnt anticipate ever seeing kids running around outside in parks with grassy fields.
its going to be mostly in door facilities
>>77716761
this. Holy shit is it mindboggling to think how important the moon was for our development, and just how rare moons like ours are.
>>77716395
Got you covered.
>>77711985
Because condition on Mars are ridiculously unhospitable to life, so it follows Martians must be super tough to live there.
Kinda like Fremen from Dune. Actually, when you think about, a lot like Fremen.
>>77719780
thanks senpai
>>77717563
Science word you're looking for is "agametic". And "asexual" to represent someone who has no sex drive has been used even back in 1896. That's kinda early for "SJWs".
>>77722209
no, I wasn't looking for a word. Asexual, asexual is the word.
>>77711985
i find it funny how some people say this
>>Why are Martians always portrayed stronger than humans despite coming from a planet with weaker gravity than Earth?
like the gravity of a planet is directly involved with the general strength of a creature.
it's not, not really anyways.
lets just go on an assumption that what ever life we may encounter in the future also is governed by natural selection.
if the natural selection of a species tended to favor strength over this creatures other attributes its very possible this creature can become stronger than humans. this has no governance over gravity.
even if natural selection wasn't involved, why would they not give themselves extra strength
>>77722358
>like the gravity of a planet is directly involved with the general strength of a creature.
>it's not, not really anyways.
Calling the Dragon ball Z
>>77722438
what?
anyway i want to add something to what i said here
>>77722358
it is true you don't need as much strength to live on a lower gravity world, but that in itself isn't grounds for saying you must be weak for living on a low gravity world
>>77717688
You must not know much about biology. You're aware that the majority of lifeforms on earth reproduce asexually right?
>>77717042
>water ≠ corrosive
Water is a universal solvent you dipshit, I think your confusing your chemistry with geography where landmasses are shape by large masses of water throughout millions of years of tidal currents.
>>77713485
yoooo rofl
>>77711985
These guys.
>>77711985
That Mars looks like Pepe.
>>77717352
Close, doesn't have the giant eyes though. This is an actual sketch by Wells of what the Martians look like, for horrific world-conquering monsters they are goofy looking fuckers.
>>77727311
For context, Wells' depiction of the Martians was based on his theory (Wells had degrees in physics and biology, by the way) that beings in a technological civilisation would eventually use machines for all physical tasks and would thereafter evolve into giant brains with a vestigial body providing life support. The Martians were envisioned as a cephalopod species in this evolutionary phase, and Wells had earlier wrote a non-fiction book called 'The Man of the Year One-Million' where he speculated on what humans would be like in this phase.
>all aliens have longer lifespans than humans
>>77719287
Doesn't Jupiter have sixteen of similar and superior quality?
little greys and little greens are usually weak without their robots and lasers.
>>77711985
because the general public unfortunately doesn't want to watch "Glorious Earth Steamrolls the Galaxy part 16"
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Mars is a harsh world. Only the strong survive.
>>77711985
Greys are weak as fuck, OP.
scrawny off-white nerds. Occasionally you run into a piece of media where they have super strength for some fucking reason, but that's rare. usually they just telekinetically scramble your brain. Doubt they could take a punch though.
>>77728663
Does it matter? Our big moon makes life possible on our relatively small and dense planet. It don't mean shit to gas giants.
>>77713877
It died out on /tg/ because everyone someone brings it up some autist starts whining about how it's lame and humans aren't supposed to be good at shit.
>>77729558
It still pops up on /tg/, but it has to me more than one autistic twat who goes on how it doesn't belong on "his" /tg/.
>>77729558
No, it died out on /tg/ because it became the same shit posted over and over again compounded by almost all of it being pretty terrible.
>>77717407
That and apparently Disney was afraid of the "Of Mars" thing because Mars Needs Moms had been a colossal failure.
>>77728663
It's more a satellite-to-host ratio.
Our Moon is ridiculously huge compared to our planet when looking at other planets. The only thing that was close was Pluto and Charon. At one point, it was even postulated they were binary planets orbiting each other.
But of course, far, far too far from the Sun to worry about having any life.
>>77729665
Apparently it makes more sense to classify Earth~Moon relation as a binary planet system than as a planet-Moon system.
>>77717407
>>77729621
It was Stanton himself who assumed people knew who John Carter was. Couldn't separate his power levels from normie reality
>>77711985
In The War of the Worlds, arguably the most famous martian invasion story, they're weak little tentacle things that can barely move around under our gravity.
>>77729665
>But of course, far, far too far from the Sun to worry about having any life.
Life don't need sun, it needs liquid water + chemicals.
>>77733105
In Last and First Men they are green clouds that communicate via radio waves.
>>77727311
In most cases I couldn't tell you, but aren't most Martians in the DC universe genetically enhanced? Unless I'm mistaken, their only natural abilities are telepathy and maybe shapeshifting.
