Listen up /co/! I can wait! Today we're going to be conducting a close reading of Scott Snyder's Batman storyline "Death of the Family".
Is it high art or low trash? It's not for me to judge, let's figure it out together class.
will we be getting tested on this, and what percentage of it goes toward our final grade?
>>77428701
Here we are first introduced to the supernatural implications of the Joker, which continues through the story.
Using our knowledge of later events, especially Endgame, to theorize that the Joker timed his arrival in Gotham with events that could possibly be seen as omens in order to build his mythology and increase his hold on Gotham.
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>>77428723
This will be a seminar style class, so participation is required.
Here Gordon and Bullock agree with me
>>77428761
Of course the two-headed lion has a rational explanation just like the Joker. But try explaining that to the Joker's victims.
I'm gonna try to avoid criticism, but i would like to say that this is very on the nose so far
>>77428737
2 headed lion is symbolism
>>77428787
Gordon's a good detective. He knows that sometimes the simplest answer really is the right one.
Shucks between the cigarette scavenger hunts and the wacky crime solving this Gotham Police department sure is likable! I hope nothing bad happens...
I do not think the students here should be taught garbage such as this, sempai
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>>77428795
How so?
Not much to say here. Joker kills a bunch of cops. He doesn't complete any jokes, perhaps showing his change in persona
>>77428835
I think he's riffing off the old 'X walks into a Y' jokes. Here it's a clown walks into a police station.
The killings themselves are the joke, no, sensei?
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>>77428832
Sometimes garbage can teach lessons. Honestly I'm unsure how I feel about this and thought revisiting in a group setting might be productiveand the vision close reading thread today was pretty fun
The Joker is in full effect. He gives his "jokes are tragedies in life" routine. This seems to be a personal attack on Gordon faith, the start of Joker's assault on Batman's allies.
The Joker presents himself as ever present. Using the horror of what he has just done to sell a larger lie. He's been far too busy to lie under Jim's porch every night, but not too busy to watch him and figure out a way to unnerve him.
I honestly think this is an interesting interpretation of the Joker: he uses real-life acts to build his legend and increase his hold on both Gotham and Batman by acting as if he is more than human
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>>77428866
I would say that you are right anon, the killings take the place of the punchline.
The Man of the hour arrives. Jim is initially frightened by his arrival, exactly what the Joker wants.
>>77428923
The rack of previous Joker toxins show that Bruce has had a long history with the Joker.
Alfred remarks that the Joker has a special hold on them while Bruce admits that he had hoped that the Joker had died, presumably after getting his face cut off in Detective Comics #1.
>>77428967
Damian is new in town, he doesn't fear the Joker because he has never witnessed one of his acts of horror and thus remains unimpressed by the legend.
Dick, on the other hand, is on high alert the moment he hears the news.
>>77428992
What in God's name is Tim doing?
The family is literally shown as an extension of Bruce. Vital parts of him. Either showing how Batman will be weakened by Joker's attack or showing that Joker's attack is doomed to fail because the family supports Bruce and makes him stronger
>>77429022
One issue in and Joker is already breaking the family apart, though it wasn't exactly hard to make Simone Girl angry...
>>77429029
The Joker using a person as a mask. Rather than showing himself he uses a proxy. Anyone could be Joker and now this guy is. He's infecting Gotham, but it's an act. Possibly also a ventriloquist dummy joke
The baby bird reference is obviously referring to Jason Todd. By invoking a life he previously took because of Batman, is the Joker trying to enrage Bruce by killing another person in front of him as a direct result of their confrontation.
>>77429064
Forgot pic sorry class!
>>77429069
The Joker is reliving their mythology. Repetition gives things meaning and Joker is trying to give himself meaning in Bruce's mind
>>77428701
how about no, and fuck you.
if you're going to bother storytiming this it should be a storytime of pain.
"classroom" my fucking ass
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>>77428723
>Seminar
Can I be the turd that always has to voice his opinion over others?
>>77428992
Wait is this really Damian's first Joker encounter post-Flashpoint? I thought most/all of the Bat-Epic was canon still.
>>77428737
Some Macbeth business as well with nature being upset.
>>77429166
Snyder probably thought it was but then it got retconned.
>>77429103
>storytime of pain
Fuck are you on about?
>>77429104
Did you ded Anon?
>>77429022
The panels are indicative of them being born from him. They're his spawn, and he's warning them, because Joker used them to get to Bruce last time.
>>77428701
It wasokay
>>77428701
Did OP die or is this some part of a long and elaboratejoke?
>>77428701
You forgot to put Storytime of Pain in the OP.
>>77429215
Why do you newfags ask questions about things? It's only gonna get you insulted. Lurk more.
>>77428701
It's high trash.
