>it's a Felicity causes pointless relationship drama episode
Was Curtis just tricking when he said Oliver wasn't the Arrow? Isn't he supposed to be one of the smartest people on earth?
Why does Oliver need to campaign? I thought it was a plot point earlier that pretty much anyone who runs is going to become mayor.
>>77404791
You have to remind people to vote at all.
>Ray you're fine aside from an iron deficiency
Poking fun at Iron Man similarities?
I like that Lance and Donna became a thing.
>>77404791
He still needs to be elected. You can't just become mayor.
Is she supposed to be the attractive character? Don't watch but she's fugly, imagine her without the glasses and Hollywood hair and makeup. Does she have a god-tier rack or something?
>>77404838
So it was you.
>>77404863
Not with that attitude.
>>77404863
>>77404814
Yeah but with no other candidates isn't it just a matter of time no matter what?
>>77404869
https://instagram.com/p/4zVoOiCKcR/?taken-by=emilybett
She looks better without all the eye makeup than I would have thought
Thea is the hottest girl on the show though
>>77404898
Ollie is the kind of guy who actually wants people to believe in him, not just become mayor automatically
For real this episode sucked
Only good parts were Cleavage Canary and Ollie/Diggle bro moment
>>77405080
Her boobs fight for justice.
>>77404898
>what are write in candidates?
>what are those weird nutcases who get on the ballot and want to ban left shoes and cheese?
So the campaign manager guy is a secret villain right?
>>77405364
They're putting a lot of emphasis on him but that would be such a retread
>>77404869
>implying
>>77405555
She's cute but too bad about that personality
Felicity worst girl
>>77405364
No, just a bland love interest. Not as bland as DJ Nanda Parbeatz was last season though.
>>77405899
>DJ Nanda Parbeatz
>>77405364
I don't know why we're supposed to care if he's not
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So, what exactly is this?
>>77406396
An inconvenient way to carry around a blueprint
>>77406396
Ancient Kree coordinates
So that's why she was trending on twitter earlier? I was curious about that.
>Felicity is still in charge for some reason
>Oliver is still pretending to like her
>still hasn't stabbed her with a fucking arrow for talking to him like she has any standing on the team at all
God fucking damn it can Felicity please just die?
Please?
I'll even fucking take Bitch Laurel again over one more minute of this Mary Sue Tumblr self insert bitch.
>>77406396
Mother Box
>>77404878
>as the fans have demanded on social media
why? youre never suppose to give the fans what they want, cause it always turns to shit. before they started the show, they didnt workshop with the green arrow fans to create the series.
>>77406465
>kree
That wasn't nearly as bad as you fags made it out to be. Nowhere close to season 3 shit.
>>77406590
CW loves to pander to their fans.
Literally anything to get the Tumble audience, just look at Supernatural.
>>77406595
That's what I said, yes
>>77406655
>Felicity whining for no good reason whatsover
>omg Sara don't snap that guys neck even though you just shot 12 people
>Felicity's dumb mom
>Felicity's dumb mom and Lance together
It was pretty fucking bad
>>77406548
Not too mention:
>Ray is back
>Felicity is still given the fucking company on a silver platter just because
This fucking whore has everyone in a mask riding her dick, is rich, popular, and still finds shit to fucking cry about.
She's too in love? Give me a fucking break. How many more teenage fan fiction traits can we shove on her?
If Dark actually ends up being her dad, I might drop this show. I came to see the Green Arrow, not a shitty discount Oracle.
I actually liked this episode.
It's a small but important step towards unfucking ALL of the badness from Season 3.
So, we got Ray back without too much emotional stuff wasted on him. We got a lot of sassy/bitchy Felicity -- not the greatest thing, but certainly better than crying Felicity. More than that, though, is that it's clear that Felicity isn't going to be written terribly anymore. Even in a bad mood, she was funny this episode, and she wasn't simply used as a soundboard to say "OMG OLIBURR YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT".
It's a character development episode on a show with 22 episodes. I'd much rather a weird, offbeat episode like this than another cryfest with pointless villains.
Still, Sara's plot was pretty badly handled. Hopefully, her visit to Central City (to see her mom) will lead to some more character building on The Flash.
>>77406655
/co/ always overreacts. That's why I stopped posting in the livethreads.
>>77406870
I feel like you haven't even watched this episode, let alone the show.
Ray literally said that he didn't want the company back YET.
>Felicity: I can catch you up on all the latest at your comapny.
>Ray: Actually, until I decide to come back from the dead, it's *your* company.
Secondly, she's definitely too in love. This isn't the writer's taking Felicity to a shitty plot point: they're LITERALLY addressing why her character was a piece of shit in Season 3, and hopefully developing her into the person she was in the first two seasons.
>>77406879
Found the Felicity fanboy
She was terrible this episode bro. Literally whining and bitching over nothing at all.
>>77406816
>Felicity whining for no good reason whatsover
Yeah, fuck her for feeling awful that she went on a vacation and missed Ray's emergency message for six months.
>omg Sara don't snap that guys neck even though you just shot 12 people
Killing while under a murder rage and shooting a gun against people with body armor for self defense purposes are two separate things, anon.
>>77407440
It's one thing to feel awful and act like a bitch to innocent Ollie
She's literally an assassin she's murdered tons of people, who gives a shit
>>77407490
and another to*
>OMG FUCKING FEMALE CHARACTERS AMIRITE?!
Same /co/ different day. Nothing to see here.
>>77407490
Nobody's saying she wasn't lashing out and being a bad gf, but it's an understandable reaction given what had just happened. She was going through emotional storm and being unreasonable, it's very human thing to do.
>She's literally an assassin she's murdered tons of people, who gives a shit
Ah yes, why care if your loved one could at a snap of a finger fall into a murderous berserker rage. First she smashed an innocent guard's face in and then she snaps a neck on a bad guy she had already taken down. Why worry indeed.
>>77407619
>actually defending the poor writing
Jesus some of you people are delusional
>>77407655
>poor writing is anything my autistic mind can't fully process
>>77407728
>actually caring about Felicity's mood
>calls others autistic
After the quality drop that was this episode I'm just going to wait until all of the Legends of Tomorrow setup is done and then i'm dropping this season unless confirmed that this shit is a one off.
>>77408044
>not sticking for Hawkgirl and Hawkman
Seriously, bro?
>>77404869
>>77404936
>>77405555
The tied back and glasses aren't doing her any favors. Her forehead is really small.
>>77404277
Do any of you guys think Amell has gotten kinda better at acting this season? I feel like he has gotten a little bit.
>>77408131
Probably cause he was in a real movie during the break.
>>77408131
He gets better every season pretty much.
Seen with him and Lance a few eps ago was great
>>77408087
I just hope they give Atom and Hawkman some good Bro scenes together. I always liked that Best Friend thing they had going.
>Oliver has a black eye after getting hit by Constantine
>by the time the fight with a slav comes it disappears
>>77407594
Nah. I'll complain when Oliver's being an obtuse, stubborn asshole, but I'm gonna complain about forced relationship drama too.
>>77405899
D-damn it anon, that was good.
>>77408258
Magic!
I was disappointed Ollie didn't get to see Barry getting BTFO by Zoom.
>>77408220
I know but it really felt like he had a little bit of a actual humorous character to him this last episode and some episodes before. I havent really seen that in the whole time ive watched this show
>>77408381
They said they wanted Ollie to be lighter this season and it's definitely showing
More Diggle/Ollie bro moments pls
I remember when /co/ used to love Felicity. It's amazing to consider given that she's Felicity Mao Hitler Stalin Satan Smoke to people now.
>>77406396
Mother Box confirmed
>>77408409
Can you honestly defend season 3 felicity?
>>77408409
That was before she turned into a way to shoehorn Tumblr landwhale dreams of having a hot guy into a tv show.
I mean everyone hated Laurel when she was a whiny forced relationship drama bitch. Now shes just behind Thea for best girl
>>77408409
Because S1/S2 Felicity is great. They ruined her by pandering.
>>77408409
Olicity ruined felicity.
>>77408409
It's pretty ridiculous how people are anally retentive about characters having understandably drama in the story. It's like people can't handle characters being emotional and sometimes acting emotionally, rather than rationally.
Diggle acts a bit mad at Ollie returning and taking charge? He's understandably annoyed after Ollie dragged Lyla and their kid to his undercover work last season, yet people immediately declared Diggle was shit now. Laurel going on a bender when she has deep emotional issues about Sara? Hurr Laurel's a cunt, why can't she just die. I mean what the fuck, how is team arrow being concerned about Sara's bloodlust in the new episode suppose to be bad? "B-but she was an assassin, who cares if she kills!" Yes, but she didn't fucking flip a switch and suddenly become a homicidal maniac. They're concerned because she has no control and see her offing people in a berserker state.
It's like people are so autistic when it comes to these shows that they can't understand basic emotions.
>>77408581
Reddit: The Post
>>77408581
What annoys me about Felicity hate is how so many people are annoyed at her for her hooking up with Oliver, like this guy >>77408519
If anything that saved Felicity. So many shows go 5+ seasons of will they won't they sexual tension between characters and it gets fucking boring. Having 2 seasons of tension, and then having it reach a conclusion in the third season was the right way to handle it.
Another season of "notice me senpai" Felicity would have been terrible.
>>77408651
>If anything that saved Felicity.
I didn't know it was possible to be so wrong.
Will Lance smash?
>>77408681
I was already growing bored of her by the end of season 2, and after the false flag with Ollie to trick Deathstroke I was ready for the worst in season 3. I was very pleasantly surprised that they actually advanced the romance plot.
>>77408705
Yeah, they advanced it by making her Maximum Mary Sue and making her an emotional trainwreck instead of a competent and likable character
>>77404277
>put best girl on a train
>pointless Lance x Laurel's mum ship
>its a Felicity episode
>pointless Thea relationshit
Fuck, and i thought the show was getting decent again. This episode killed off so much fucking momentum
>>77406870
Nigga has been tiny for months. He wants to fucking relax, not run a company.
>>77405899
>DJ Nanda Parbeat
>>77408695
Lance is going Balls deep in that MILF for sure. Hope his heart holds out.
>>77408719
Another week where the Flash episode makes the Arrow episode look like a joke in comparison
>>77408581
>basic emotions
Hahahaha if anyone on Arrow acted with basic emotions there would be far less drama and far less deaths. Remember that Sara died in the first place cause Merlyn didn't think his plan through.
>>77408719
>season 4
>not shipping Lance with his ex-wife
>>77408755
>not shipping Lance with Gay Cop on Flash
Bruh
>>77408131
He's good for the CW meaning that he's still not that good of an actor. However I will say that he did get better from season 1.
>>77408748
>Last Flash episode had 10 minutes of the hero getting his shit kicked around be a badass villain
>last Gotham episode had Riddler doing murder shit, crazy hot chick nearly killing folks and hijinks all around
>Agents of S.H.IT keeps getting better and had a sort of satifying end to its early baddy with more Hydra teases
>Arrow spends 45 minutes doing Felicity shit.
The worrying thing is pretty much every other capeshit show is getting better and better while Arrow just chugs along pointlessly. I guess its been on longer than the rest of them so it might be a bit of fatigue on our end but i wouldn't be surprised if more and more people start dropping it. The midseason break can't come soon enough
>>77408778
Best ship is Cop Dad broship. Lets not involve them in the drama
>>77408801
It being into season 4 isn't an excuse. The DC universe is stack full of villains they can use but they insist on only focusing on Batman rogues and not giving character development to anyone other than Felicity.
>>77408801
>watching Gotham and Agents of SHIT
jej
Until this episode dropped I was honestly preferring Arrow over Flash. Hopefully this is just a hiccup. As far as both series go this week was an anomaly. Flash was exciting and arrow was felicibombed. Both were the norm last season but weren't evident this season until this week so lets not over react and assume they're back to being the norm.
>>77408705
>pleasantly surpised they actually advanced the romance plot
Felicity is not a viable love interest. She and olivier have nothing in common and it's pretty clear that their relationship is an unequal one.
>>77408861
>Only watching the CW shows
Can't blame you but Gotham is actually really good now, probably the best of the lot outside the Netflix shows. I can understand if it isn't you cup of tea but its the only one that actually has a vision and sticks to it. SHIELD is also good now, the action on it is better than the CW shows since they don't have to shoehorn 5 characters into every fight scene like Arrow or depower their hero and make him look stupid like Flash.
>>77408904
SHIELD is overall good but I'm not feeling S3 much at all yet, it's going so fast yet none of it really interests me
>>77408904
>SHIELD is also good now
I gave it more of a chance than it deserved.
On the other hand I don't just watch CW. Daredevil was easily the best cape out in the last year or so. I absolutely loved the combat even if they made the end a bit too hammy. Drama was tight, relations were effective.
>>77408861
>Arrow over Flash
>Ever
>>77408924
>Drama was tight, relations were effective
Good joke, senor Anon.
>>77408941
Flash can go over board with its 'I'm goofy and you've got to deal with it shtick. Also Iris is just as bad as Early Laurel, honestly. Everyone is too focused on Felicity bashing to consider just how annoying she objectively is.
>>77408904
>SHIELD is also good now
>>77408963
The fact that Flash enjoys its campy origins is one of its strongest attributes. Iris hasn't been a problem at all S2, they downplayed her a lot.
>>77408966
>>77408957
Nice memes
>>77405899
I do not understand that plotthread.
They cast an actor who is at least popular with the MTV crowd and they do absolutely nothing with him which was a thing I didn't see coming. I figured he'd be a decently used minor character at the least.
I had pegged him right away as a League member and I assumed he would be Roy's opponent but even when Roy does fight him he gets his ass handed to him...
What was the fucking point of introducing him at all? He had all of five minutes screentime before betraying her. A random mook jumping in through the window could have been as effective.
>>77406667
Supernatural is good this season.
>>77408924
Yeah as i said, the Netflix shows are kinda in a league of their own considering the effort that goes into them. The rest of the shows sort of fall down to personal taste i've noticed. Flash and Arrow give you a lot more stuff from the source material , albeit filled with bad acting and shitty subplots. Gotham is has the best world, the sets, the actors (outside of Gordon and Wilma Smith) are better the CW shows outside of maybe 1 or 2, the tone is different from the rest of them and its embrace of camp really makes it fun if you like camp (every baddy is pretty much like Cold on Flash).
>>77408966
SHIELD actually has better fight scenes than any capeshow outside Daredevil and its meandering plot is sort of similar to the CW shows. They're clever because they leave the fight scenes to one or two characters and don't have to have EVERY capable character in EVERY fight like Arrow does. If you compare the shows on an "objective" level, Arrow is probably the worst of them right now. It doesn't offer anything you can't get a better version of from Flash, Gotham, or SHIELD
>>77406780
wrong universe bro
>>77409036
>implying every cape show won't crossover
>>77409056
>someone get this bitch off the set
>>77408975
She wasn't even that bad early in season 1. No where close to season 2 Laurel. Iris at least was somewhat justified unlike Laurel drunkenly throwing a bottle in anger because her sister wasn't dead.
It was the latter stuff where she was the only character not in on the secret where Iris got bad. She's better now. Caitlyn is Flash's weaklink. That bitch needs a real reason to be around.
>>77408719
She's going over to the better show anon.
She can kill those dirty Breacher's all she wants so long as Barry feels like sharing!
>>77408409
She had a shitty personality since the beginning, it was her looks and nerd quirkiness that many can't see past their boners for her.
> watch Arrow
> keep recognizing the fucking Boston skyline
Fuck. Back in season one they had the Old North Church and the fucking Citgo sign.
>>77409110
Nah she was the fun, relatable character at the start, that's why people liked her
>>77408963
Flash can be goofy and still take itself seriously. This last episode is a good example of it, Barry literally gets his shit pushed in hardcore by a demonic speedster when earlier in the episode they were faking the cheesiest fight in history to lure Zoom in.
Iris is fine as is. It's not like she's interesting in the comics anyway.
>>77409020
>the Netflix shows are kinda in a league of their own considering the effort that goes into them
Yes, incredibly disappointing and cheap with poor writing to go along with it.
>>77409127
>arrow
>boston
its filmed in vancouver senpai
>>77408581
In your case overacting is excused when you can easily ingest shit. Just because you enjoy it, it doesn't mean that others should settle for mediocrity.
>>77404277
Sara just got resurrected. Oh i know..lets dedicate the next episode to relationship bullshit instead of focusing on Sara and her return to the world of the living....oh lets gloss over the mother's excitement over her daughter being back.
Oh Sara will be leaving Arrow again after this episode? Let's not have a scene where she's sitting around while everyone updates her on what happens. Oh yea by the way let's not also let Sara find out about what Thea did. Instead let's just thowaway this episode and replace it with "Mama Smoak" scenes with zero character development.
NOOOICE
>>77405555
Every girl on the show and on Flash looks better than her.
>>77406879
At least we know on the fucking Flash she'd be able to speak about what happened and her experiences. She's not a fucking character from that show but due to writing she will have a fucking moment at least.
Christ.
>>77409155
gr8 b8
>>77409199
>Mama Smoak
Felicity doesn't deserve the role of team mom.
>>77409168
mediocrity doesn't mean shit though, like /co/ likes to argue.
>>77409020
Yeah with Flash its good now cause its just him. Once the others come in i'm sure they wont havve crazy flailing fight scenes.
It will sound sexist but I found it better and more believable when Roy and Oliver were the only ones with a mask on fighting.
I mean ffs at least make the black canary use her signature move to "even the odds".
>>77408963
Choose between the two to fill in the time:
a) Goofy scenes like Linda shooting shit
b) "OLIBURR" "B-BUT BARRYYYY"
thought so. (dont say neither)
>>77409155
>incredibly disappointing and cheap with poor writing
If I didn't know any better I'd say you're trolling. The Netflix shows are in no way cheaper than what the CW puts out.
>>77409078
Caitlyn's actress is the weakest actor among the lot of the main cast.
She makes weird facial expressions but I guess i just dont like her face.
>>77409255
m8 i was talking about Donna.
Watching this episode i realized what a long way this show have gone.
Remember the first season when Oli killed people based on the list of his Dad?
Now he is walking casually around with his vigilante ex girlfriend who was trained by the league of shadows, killed by his brainwashed sister, then resurrected by a Lazarus Pit and got her souls back with the help of John Constantine.
Imagine typing this back in 2012, /co/ would have called you a faggot who should fuck off with his fanfiction.
>>77409261
Digg needs to get out of the field. There are too many players on the field at any given moment.
Of course the downside is when Digg was sidelined he had nothing to do.
Flash won't be able to afford having the full Flash family in battle often so it won't get as crowded. Barry plus one will be the norm and that's just fine.
>>77409272
A. Those were were a lot of fun. Do you hate fun anon?
>>77409127
When did they move the Old North Church 3000 miles west?
Why is Diggle such a waste of a character?
I think he is such a bro, the actor is doing a decent job and he is also comic book tier MASSIVE
But all the writers have done with him is making him a shitty donut steal with a retarded helmet.
>>77409335
It's because Felicity took over his job as oliver grounding moral compass.
>>77409305
More like this show dug itself into a hole its trying to dig itself out of by trying to be Green Batman with arrows and realizing it's not going to work cause a hero shouldn't be out there killing people with arrows, and in the immensely dark tone it started off with.
The flashbacks were great in season 1 and 2 cause pretty much everyone was waiting or wondering if Slade would show up and when he did it was great, now they're pretty much used to eat up time cause the writers have no idea what they're doing and are creatively bankrupt because they deviated from what their original plan was, are trying to mix in a "lighter tone" in a show that premiered with a guy who had severe PTSD and was killing off people like some sort of serial killer cause it'd make the city better.
>>77409261
>It will sound sexist but I found it better and more believable when Roy and Oliver were the only ones with a mask on fighting.
It doesn't even have to be about gender. The fight scenes are so fucking shitty because they cut away to show every character struggling with 1 or 2 goons when Oli used to do all that by himself. Sara was badass when she had fight scenes with just Oliver too.
What they need to do is take the SHIELD approach. Only send characters that are relevant for each scene. Give the rest of them stuff to do outside the main goal. Laurel is a lawyer but we don't even see her do that anymore. Oliver is running for office and we barely see glimpses of that. Thea is trying to be normal but dedicates all her time to crime shit. Diggle has a fucking family for fuck's sake.
I'm not saying focus on the mundane shit all the time, but that's the stuff that develops the characters. Plus it'll mean the fight scenes are cut down to 1 or two main characters with a few more goons, which means less editing, the characters look competent for once, and you get to make them a bit more unique instead of all them just being shitty kung fu guys.
>>77409335
>But all the writers have done with him is making him a shitty donut steal with a retarded helmet.
As opposed to what, exactly? Dig is Ollie's moral center, always calling him on his bullshit and providing much needed back up, they were building Suicide Squad around him until that was vetoed last season. This shit with H.I.V.E is also promising and it's about that Diggle had a proper mask concealing his identity on the field. They've done plenty with a character who initially was just a random bodyguard around whom Ollie had to sneak in order to kill rich businessmen.
>>77409305
Just the Constantine part alone would've been crazy
He better come back
>>77409324
>Barry plus one will be the norm and that's just fine.
I really hope not. Barry is already made to look like an idiot in most of his fights to include everyone else. He's the fucking Flash, does he nee 5 people in his ear telling him the solution to every fight is "go fast bruv"?
>dat Laurel/Sarah/Thea scene
Holy shit, my dick got hard just thinking about that 3some
>>77409379
>They've done plenty with a character who initially was just a random bodyguard around whom Ollie had to sneak in order to kill rich businessmen
Even back then he had more purpose. He was the one person who called Oli out on his bullshit. now >>77409350 happened and he's just sort of there
>>77409357
>Give the rest of them stuff to do outside the main goal.
People love bitching about anything that isn't immediately tied to the core plot because it's "meaningless filler." Laurel being a lawyer and having character development when she started to veer towards alcoholism and pill popping before finally starting to get herself back together was one of the main things people whined when she wasn't yet a vigilante. Shit, even when she finally put on the costume, the hate maintained until now, when she doesn't do anything else but kick butt and drag corpses to Nanda Parbat.
>>77409335
Because there's just too many heroes on the field so he gets lost in the mix. He still has good moments like him and Ollie being bros in this episode. That scene wouldn't work with anyone else
Also was that supposed to be his legit codename they just threw out uncermoniously? I can digg Spartan for him
>>77405364
>>77405999
>hot
seriously, he is probably ripped a sfuck like all CW actors, but his face is absolutely disgusting. Pretty sure he is the son or brother of some of the writers, that's how he got the job.
>>77409400
>and he's just sort of there
He just had an entire subplot where he thought about quitting due to his kid. Before the season started, he, Thea and Laurel were the only ones doing the crime fighting in Star City. Now he's focused on taking down H.I.V.E. That's not just being there doing nothing.
>>77409401
Not him, but I don't think you understood the point. The fight choreography has suffered immensely. Watching season 1, the fights were way better, now they don't even bother hiding the stunt doubles and it's done way lazier, then you have a case where Laurel and Thea are in a motorcycle riding towards henchmen who can't shoot straight.
And the criticism towards character development is that it ends up being too much soap opera-ish and childish. There's too much unnecessary angst and desire for people to "get hurt" by secrets. It got old pretty fast, let the side characters have their own side missions and bloody get rid of the useless flashbacks.
"Team Arrow" don't have to all assemble and go take out some cocaine dealers or whatever when Oliver could do that by himself.
>>77409379
>They've done plenty with a character who initially was just a random bodyguard around whom Ollie had to sneak in order to kill rich businessmen.
Man, I'd completely forgotten about that. I miss the days of the Hood and Black Driver.
>>77409357
Barely see glimpses of Ollie running for office? It was a good chunk of last weeks episode. And Thea is getting a romantic plot now to show her trying to have a normal life, we see Felicity running the company, Dig's family time got decent attention in season 3 at least, Laurel hasn't done much legal-stuff this season but she's had plenty of plot attention.
SHIELD's characters are also garbage... As pointless as Dig can feel sometimes he will never feel as empty and soulless as Trip did nor as "Just there" as Mac feels.
And hell this Ollicity shit pissed me off but Coulson essentially betrayed Skye's trust and almost let the government lock her boyfriend away and there was nearly zero consequence for it... At this point she's pretty much forgiven him like it was nothing when it's something that should be a piece of relationship strife.
I just finished marathoning the Constantine series. Was his guest appearance a good episode? I gave up on Arrow after Season 3.
>>77409401
>People love bitching about anything that isn't immediately tied to the core plot because it's "meaningless filler."
Because the writers fucking suck at it. Look at your example.
> Laurel being a lawyer and having character development when she started to veer towards alcoholism and pill popping before finally starting to get herself back together was one of the main things people whined when she wasn't yet a vigilante.
See, being a lawyer was fine. The drugs shit shit was fine. It built her as a character and sort of made sense for her eventual choice to become Worst Canary. it was just handled in the worst possible manner they could go about it. The writing made her problems fucking not seam important, or TOO important. She showed up into the main plot to just create pointless drama. Gotham has babby Bruce doing his whole detective shit and it rarely has anything to to do with the ongoing plot but its interesting because it develops the character. Same thing as most of the Riddler subplot. They are interesting on their own. Laurel's shit wasn't interesting on its on, so they kept tying tit into the more interesting plots and it just brought those down.
>>77409305
i remember /co/ going crazy about the deathstroke reference and its parallels to what smallville was like in its pilot.
>>77409439
>Watching season 1, the fights were way better
Has anything topped parachute into hallway fight?
>>77409455
Outside of this weeks episode this has been a step up actually.
>>77409455
It was decent. They could have done more but just having him there was fun.
>>77409324
That's what i meant. I just meant that we can eithcer complain about goofy (linda training/Barry's blind date) to fill in the fun or we can have Arrow's version of filler time.
>>77409463
I've seen a lot of people complain about Bruce to this day and how it's meaningless filler, and how he should be written out of the show entirely.
>>77408861
>Until this episode dropped I was honestly preferring Arrow over Flash
I feel the same way. Flash has felt pretty lackluster this season for the most part. It just felt like so many episodes were blah with maybe one hype moment and suddenly you're supposed to forget the rest of the ep was blah? Eh.
>>77409463
It wasn't the most interesting stuff in the world, but Laurel's fall and eventual rise back to her feet was overall good, imo. Especially during scenes like where her dad got her to go to AA, or when Laurel was losing her shit over Sara coming back. I think she even won some addiction based media portrayal award for that storyline.
To me, people just like to combine "I don't like/agree with these actions = character is shit " and whine about that.
>>77409494
His stuff is the only thing I'm actually enjoying.
Bullock has done jackshit this season, Penguin's plot is hampered by being attached to the outlandish Galavan plot, Theo Galavan being part of the Order of St. Dumas when his backstory more or less is lifted from The Architect, most of Riddler's shitty dual personalities (Though last week at least made that interesting), Josie Mac, Gordon's entire unit really, being a glorified background character... Fucking Barbara... None of this crap is doing it for me.
Bruce, Alfred, and Selina are really all the show has going for it right now. Well barring its beautiful cinematography.
>>77404277
>character say something scientific
Every character on every TV show ever: "In English, please."
>charcter say something scientific
Damien Darhk: "Just because I understand science, doesn't mean I'm not bored by it. Bottom line it for me."
I love this character.
>>77409448
>Barely see glimpses of Ollie running for office? It was a good chunk of last weeks episode
And then its trashed and ignored the very next episode, despite it being an ongoing process.
>we see Felicity running the company
Nigga what CEO of a multi billion dollar company do you think would get away with spending almost half her time away from her job like Felicity does? she shows up for a meeting once in a while, the rest of the time she spends at the place is with the black dude.
I'm not asking for episodes dedicated entirely to showing these characters doing this shit, just use the fact that they have lives outside being heros to cut the clutter. Diggle has a family to feed yet does vigilante shit all day for free? Laurel is a DA who doesn't do DA stuff. They're a big team now, they could delegate the workload instead of ALL of them being there ALL the time.
>>77409494
I dunno about that, most of /co/ seem to love his stuff. I personally consider him best live action Bruce.
>>77409509
I personally find it very interesting how hard it's to find any consensus to what consists a good episode and what doesn't with these shows. To some it needs to be constant hype building while others it's just decent writing overall with an entertaining interactions and charming villain. And in some cases, you just needs a last second tease cliffhanger.
>>77409527
Its not that bad in hindsight, the issue was Oli's main plot was chugging along nicely at that time and she kept disrupting shit and just bringing pointless drama to it. The eventual tie-in to the main plot works, but getting to it was fucking messy as all hell.Just like real life addiction
Disappointed we didn't actually get to have some tiny Atom adventures.
Hopefully each character on LoT get their own centric episodes and we'll get some tiny Atom ones.
>Sword of the Atom incoming
Fucking yes.
Any easter eggs or subtle references this episode?
>>77409156
>its filmed in vancouver senpai
You never heard of shows using exterior shots of cities?
The scenes with actors are filmed in Vaughcouver. Exterior shots and city scapes are from various stock or whatever cityscape footage Warners has.
Tons of shows do this. Fringe and Boston Legal had shots of Boston, but were filmed in Vancouver and California soundstages and other places.
>>77409570
I thought of this >>77404829
>>77409563
LoT looks like a trip. Going to the 80's, medieval times, whatever. A whole spaceship deal.
>>77409579
>the 80's, medieval times, whatever. A whole spaceship deal.
This actually confirmed shit or just your hopes?
>>77409537
Except we saw him there in this episode. At least once, maybe twice.
It wasn't ignored, it just wasn't an episode that focused on that part of him. It was a shitty episode but they were focusing on Oliver being a good boyfriend. The perfect boyfriend. It's why Felicity's shit is so retarded.
This COULD have been a fun subplot where Felicity feels embarrassed over how close Ollie and her mom. Hell she could have just exclusively been upset that Ray was in danger and Ollie didn't seem to care that much but it couldn't be just that. It had to be about their relationship and it HAD to be over something painfully stupid.
Also Felicity is spending her time there because they're supposed to be working together on something that's supposed to save the company.
I mean I get where you're coming from but they've done that to a slight degree really. just three weeks ago we got an episode with just Dig and Ollie in the field, Dig's split off on his own, Laurel's split off on her own, Laurel/Thea teaming up, Ollie/Thea splitting off from the main group...
We've seen it but it's clearly not going to be something they do every fight or episode. They just need to learn to balance them as a full team of fighters better.
>>77409585
Spaceship was confirmed by the press they let in to conduct interviews a little while ago. Time travel is definitely happening. Caity (White Canary) was dressed in 80's garb and posted it on twitter, so I guess that's an assumption but not all that far fetched given the nature of the show.
>>77404838
I think it's pretty stupid and pointless.
Why would anyone want or care about that?
>>77409607
And medieval times?
>>77409652
>And medieval times?
Guess that could be considered a hope. Would be surprised if they didn't go crazy far into the past though.
Here, try this interview : http://screenrant.com/legends-tomorrow-cw-time-travel-rules-paradoxes/
>>77404277
I dropped this show mid season 3, is season 4 any good?
>>77409689
It's decent so far. Miles ahead of S3 tho
>>77409689
Yes
>>77409218
Danielle Panabaker
>>77409689
I'd say so. I've enjoyed quite a few of the changes they've made so far. It definitely goes down easier and it no longer feels like a show I feel required to watch because I've already put in the time (that and the being apart of a wider, connected universe thing) like how I felt for the second half of season 3.
>>77409078
>Caitlyn is Flash's weaklink. That bitch needs a real reason to be around.
Well, good thing she's turning into Killer Frost at some point this season. Can't wait for that to happen.
>>77409778
How come she didn't get detected?
>>77409788
Because Killer Frost is earth 2 Caitlyn
>>77409078
>Caitlyn is Flash's weaklink. That bitch needs a real reason to be around.
Making my dick hard is enough reason for me.
>>77409752
Yes?
>>77409689
Give it a chance. Wouldn't wanna say which stood up. Little things that were addressed but it sure makes it a whole lot better.
>>77409533
Yeah, that was a pretty good line.
>>77409803
When are you comic back to the show, Jay?
>>77409788
Because her powers haven't been activated yet. She was affected by the particle accelerator the same as everybody else was but she was the only one who didn't suffer some kind of traumatic trigger event. Barry was struck by lightning and went into a coma, Cisco had his heart literally crushed by Eobard, and now some life-threatening event like that needs to happen to her for her powers to manifest.
>>77409842
MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN
>>77409842
So it's a given Grodd sitting on her is going to be the catalyst? Glad we're on the same page here.
>>77404277
UGH I thought she was getting better and now this. I hope she dies (even though she's cute) fuck she's annoying.
>>77409805
>average body
>weird as fuck face
>huge ass forehead
Why do people like her again?
>>77410057
nigga u gay
Anyone that doesn't think Sara is by far the best girl is clearly gay.
>>77410097
Sara "Tits" McGee is overrated.
>>77410097
Agreed. She is definitely best girl.
>>77410097
but thea is a best girl
>>77410228
Thea is a washboard front and back.
>>77410244
>implying that's a bad thing
thea a hottie
>>77405899
hue3
>>77409020
Objective ratings
iZombie > AoS > Gotham > Arrow > Flash > Supergirl
>>77410244
And Sara has an ass on her face
>>77410368
>Flash that low
>>77410368
>iZombie
Boring shit with LE QUIRKY Whedonesque dialogue and absolutely dull and uninteresting stereotypical behaviour of the week.
Gotham is just shit. It's as bad as Supergirl if not worse.
>Constantine isn't in this episode
is there even a point to watching
>>77410368
My god you have shit taste>>77410368
>people thinks its strange or bad writing that that two lonely people could hook-up over drinks.
Really /co/? Really? Donna is qt as hell and brings a different dynamic to the cast opening up new stories. Donna/Lance is the new Moira/Walter.
>>77410451
Donna is obnoxious shitty character ruining every scene she's in. It is a bad thing for her to stay any longer.
>>77410451
>accepting a dumb forced romance that's only there for pandering
Why
>>77410451
Man, I miss Walter.
>>77410476
Imagine if Walter was helping Ollie with his campaign instead of generic white boy
>>77410451
>>77410476
>>77410487
the actor probably saw season 3 and decided not to comeback
>>77410476
Damn, I had completely forgotten Walter was even a character.
I feel bad now
I can't be the only one who fast forwards through EVERY relationship scene in Arrow now.
>>77410514
I would, but I'm too lazy to find my remote. And it'd end up in a runtime of a minute or so
>>77410514
The show must be pretty short for you then.
This thread just confirms to me that this place is the absolute worst place to discuss television shows, even if they are cape shit.
>>77410424
>LE QUIRKY Whedonesque dialogue
Not really
>absolutely dull and uninteresting stereotypical behaviour of the week.
Wrong. It's a great bit of fun and the actress does great with it.
>>77410509
He's on the Limitless show now.
>>77410532
It's rapidly becoming /tv/ around here and I don't mean because of the threads themselves.
>>77410514
I usually NEVER fast forward through anything new in a movie or TV show, ever.
The relationship scenes between Thea and DJ Al Ghul made me break that rule and now I'm doing the same with Thea and what's his face. Thea and Roy started out retarded but became surprisingly decent, I would take that any day over this
>>77410529
It was like 12 minutes last night.
>>77410532
Thanks for sharing
>>77410558
I never really enjoyed Thea and Roy being an item. Maybe because I could never buy Colton as hetero? I don't know but...just nothing.
>>77410587
>can't see this guy being hetero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqYUuQ3q8wA
Straight as anarrow
>>77410606
I know his career would be kill but I do think he should just come out already.
>>77410632
he should pretend to be gay even he's not.
>>77409842
>Ronnie dying twice in front of her
>Not traumatic enough
She never loved him. No wonder she is after Jay's Garrdick
>>77410700
It more than likely needs to be a physical trauma.
>>77406548
>I'll even fucking take Bitch Laurel again over one more minute of this Mary Sue Tumblr self insert bitch.
I just got into this show and I'm up to early Season 2 where Ollie just made Felicity his secretary as a cover and she will NOT STOP BITCHING about possibly having to get someone a cup of coffee
like jesus get over yourself, it's not the end of the world to get coffee for someone else
>>77406590
>they didnt workshop with the green arrow fans to create the series.
how do you know? maybe they did.
>>77410709
Jay's gonna give her some physical trauma alright
>>77409014
This is literally impossible.
>>77410532
Go back to tumblr then bitch, you can have all the safe-space you want to re-blog all the deets to why Felishitty is a badass empowered woman.
When is Laurel gonna get her powers? It's kind of pathetic that all they have is a weak ass mechanical screech that hasn't been useful once.
>>77410739
>>77410700
If Jay hasn't been mishandled enough they go and saddle him with her. The whole thing feels wonky and unnatural. Hate the predictable everyone needs to be paired off CW approach.
>>77410772
You can't make her cry be too effective, it would break the narrative constantly.
>>77410532
>>77410554
>BOO FUCKING WHOOO PEOPLE ON /co/ HAS DIFFERENT TASTE AND OPINIONS FROM ME BOO FUCKING WHO
>>77410772
Don't really see it happening. Tech screech will probably be as close as they'll go with it.
>>77410806
Just have her use it when there are no other options or at the ed of a fight, A Canary cry can be used against Damien for example nigger maybe psychic and deflects bullets and arrows and shit but not as screech.
can we all agree that it was worst episode of the season and to similar to S3
>>77410911
She needs to stop tying her hair back
>>77410911
I know I certainly agree.
>>77410541
>It's a great bit of boredom and the actress is stuck with a shit character
Fixed.
>>77410944
Meh. You're just about the only one who feels this way. But hey, you do you.
>>77410911
>not a single great ass shot in the lot
I mean c'mon.
>>77410772
They said Laurel and Caitlin will get there proper powers around the same time.
>>77405080
More like this plz?
>>77405080
Can we get more like this plz?
>>77404277
I haven't watched the latest season
Did she finally stop crying every episode?
>>77409056
How did this picture come about?
Like, I can't imagine they were just "in the neighborhood"
>>77410911
>that bottom row
RAY
NO
OLIVER
NO
>>77411103
Pretty sure she hadn't cried in S4 until she went full whiny mode this last episode
>>77410057
Yeah. I'm sure your girlfriend blows her out of the water
>>77411119
>implying superheroes don't chill across dimensions
I think it was for one of those "dubsmash" things they were doing
>>77410532
it would be if this was actually /co/ and not /tv/ light.
>>77408258
Just like the island from LOST
Any good Canary caps from this ep?
>Trained assassin of the league of assassins
>"Oh noes, Ima killing people, evil people...can't endure it, must go"
Wut?
What is the point of Felicity's mom in this show?
She is just as annoying as her daughter and she is also a bimbo. God damn, Felicity is already awful enough
>>77408258
>Slav
His name was Vlad
