I was expecting this to bomb and be shit, but this was easily the best MCU movie to date.
I typically avoid any thread for movies on /co/ because I don't like to be spoiled, so what was the general opinion here?
Everything from the suitcase fight on just made me feel so fucking giddy and excited. I have not been that happy watching a movie in a while. Especially a cape movie
So why is it that the ''best MCU movie yet'' is always the last one that comes out? Only a few months ago it was Guardians.
And then you people get autistically butthurt when Hack Snyder calls them fads...
>>77325290
Dude, you're projecting as fuck. The last MCU movie I enjoyed that I thought was the "best" before this was Iron Man.
>>77325326
I take that back actually, Winter Soldier was pretty gnarly.
>>77325165
Good, not great. Expected it to suck, was surprisingly fun.
Suffered from mediocre editing and that... "Wright" touch.
>>77325165
Saw it twice at it held up really well on rewatch.
If anything I appreciated the different tensions between the characters and Cross' full-blown psychotic break during the climax of the movie more the second time around.
I'm sure Wright's version of the movie would've been really cool too, but Peyton Reed and Paul Rudd managed to make a great Ant-Man movie that also ties in incredibly well to the already-established MCU to boot, which Wright's film most definitely would not have provided.
Personally, the most solidly enjoyable one since Iron Man. Maybe it has to do with the long production, but it has that feel of early 00's
>>77325192
It's rare to find an action scene that can bounce between multiple perspectives (large-to-small scale) and still maintain a sense of pacing and continuity in fights.
The briefcase scene was tough to follow apart from the gags painted with broad strokes (the Cure joke, for example), but that was likely meant to be chaotic in comparison. The action scenes during the heist itself and the fights that happened after the briefcase landed and in Cassie's bedroom were top fucking notch.
>>77325290
Winter Soldier, Ant Man, and Guardians are three of my top five movies to come out in recent years.
The number one is Birdman due to ART and I can't think of another good movie.
Guardians is the best overall.
Ant Man had some real high points, but it's messy and reeks of tie-in at points.
>>77326112
>that falcon scene
it just felt so unnecessary, it really distracted from the core of the movie
something about it just felt off
the color scheme maybe?
>>77326147
I think it was redeemed by the very end.
Cause Scott's whole thing is sort of proving himself to his family, and being a hero to his kid, and then Falcon comes into play...and now he's a legit one.
>>77325165
You know, maybe I'm being dumb here, MAYBE I'm being stupid. But I honestly feel like this should've been how comedic/serious most of the MCU should've been. It's like the perfect balance of the two.
Heck even villain was interesting.
>>77325165
My favourite MCU movie.
The gags of "changes of perspective big-small" were visually awesome.
>>77326147
Yeah it didn't really fit well with the rest of the series and felt like a weird little intermission or side-story that interrupted the main development.
I mean it DID serve a purpose, it proved to Hank and Hope that Scott actually DOES have what it takes to get shit done under pressure, but I feel like that could've been handled in way that developed more organically out of the Heist format of the movie.
>>77325290
>Only a few months ago it was Guardians.
>Only a few months ago
Dude gimme that time machine.
>>77326394
>Heck even villain was interesting.
Cross was great because you literally had no idea what he was going to do next, or how much control he actually had over his actions. Where someone would draw the line between Cross's own neuroses and paranoia, and actual brain problems caused by his knockoff Pym Particles.
That being said, after he puts on the suit to fight Lang, it's pretty obvious there's a change in his thought process. He ping-pongs all over the place during the heist and beforehand, sympathetic at some times, genuinely concerned about Hope and Hank at others, callous and cruel in others still. After he becomes Yellowjacket that focuses onto one very, very specific motivation: to destroy Scott Lang and everything he holds dear.
>>77326147
In my opinion, It fit well in the plot, given the past of Pym and Howard Stark.
Moreover, It fit well in the scheme because Scott needed a situation that proved he was prepared.
I would issue a 10/10, if the Janet flashback explanation was moved to the night before the heist, while the crew was asleep.
Would fit better thematically
>>77326585
>After he becomes Yellowjacket that focuses onto one very, very specific motivation: to destroy Scott Lang and everything he holds dear.
>"Are you a monster?"
>"Do I look like a monster?"
It was the vibration in his voice that sold it too.
Probably the hammiest villain since Red Skull and that's not a bad thing at all.
>>77326830
>Lang whacks him with a ping-pong paddle into a bug zapper
>audience laughs uproariously
>after the scene ends, cuts back him still trapped in the bug zapper
>literally screaming as he's being electrocuted
>audience no longer laughing
If there's one thing this movie did well, it's how they handled bouncing back and forth between "funny" and "horrifying". Size-change fights and action scenes are fun to watch, but the times they do touch on the real consequences of Pym's technology it gets pretty fucking spooky.
>>77326986
I mean, it's even worse when you think about how the first zap actually stopped his heart.
God, that's messed up.
>>77327042
I thought he was just unconscious there. That makes it retroactively even more horrifying, Dave, thanks a lot.
>>77325165
Winter Soldier > Ant-Man > Guardians > Iron Man 1 > First Avenger > Avengers > [shit] > Thor > Iron man 3 > Hulk > Thor 2 > Iron Man 2 > Age of Quiptron
>>77325165
It was the bees knees
>>77327072
Originally I ranked GotG above Ant-Man, but Ant-Man stood up better to rewatching than Guardians did.
Guardians is big, fun, flashy and has great gags and likeable characters, but the characters are very much "what you see is what you get". They're effective at their roles, but Ant-Man's cast has more interesting development and interactions that keep your attention on seeing it a second time.
>>77327071
I mean, that's what crash carts do.
That scream was just the icing.
For how tense that stuff is, Yellowjacket was a delight, both inside and out of the suit.
>"You think you could stop the future"
gave me flashbacks to Red Skull's whole "no flags" rant. Just so over the top.
The two are very alike. Hell, their archnemeses are the surrogate/replacement sons they could never be.
>>77327072
>Ironman three was better than Hulk
You lost me
>>77326830
>that scream when he was being shocked by the bug zapper
I think that really sold his descent into madness
>>77327231
For me it was
>"I want my daddy!"
>"I want your daddy too."
>>77325165
I'm glad this movie and Scott were so good. I was so pissed that Quicksilver was killed off so quickly because he's my favorite Marvel character, but after this film I can safely say Scott Lang is my favorite MCU character. Vision a close second.
>>77327258
Again, the vibrations in that helmet were top notch.
Sold that cold dead-pan on the edge going berserk thing
God damn this thread makes me want to watch it again, even though I saw the movie twice in theaters with two different groups of friends already.
>>77327258
Some other anon worded it better than I ever could:
Yellowjacket was a much better Ultron than Ultron was in Age of Ultron. He really sold the crazyness, obsession and daddy issues.
>>77327382
Also Cross goes so far over the deep end that he almost becomes inhuman in his casual callousness towards others. He literally stops understanding how normal human beings are supposed to work.
That would've been a really fantastic bit of characterization for Ultron, but nope here we are.
Everyone else saw the Wasp when Scott went into the Microverse right? I'm not just going crazy?
>>77327424
>I was going to kill him, but you were there. I wasn't ready to kill you then, but I think I'm ready now.
>>77327596
I didn't notice it at first, but some anons posted pictures of the sequence where you can see it, and I think it's been officially confirmed.
>>77327969
What
>>77325165
TWS kicks the hell out of this generic filler.
RIP Antony
>>77328047
Winter Soldier is far and away the best MCU movie so far, but Ant-Man is a nice second place.
>>77328062
I'll rip your butthole if you bring that up again
>>77328047
ok
>>77327072
I agree with a lot of this, but I would put Hulk and Thor 2 at the bottom, and switch Iron Man 2 into Iron Man 3's position. IM3 was far more of a disaster than IM2. At least with IM2 us mech-heads got more thoughtful armor designs with glorious fat body War Machine, the Mark 5 and 6, and the Hammer droids. IM3 pushed a lot of gutter-tier designs that seemed to come from intern sketchbooks just to try and propel the armor-spam scene into something impressive (which it certainly wasn't).
>>77328180
IM2's biggest problem was that it had two villains that never got the development they needed, and never posed a legitimate threat to Tony because the emphasis was on his own self-destructive habits, and thus the fights were all his to lose.
If they movie just picked one and ran with it rather than trying to do BOTH Hammer and Crimson Dynamo, it wouldn't have destroyed all its dramatic pacing halfway through the movie and/or been able to build it back up so the final act of the movie wouldn't seem like such an anti-climax.
I've seen IM2 a couple times and I think it gets way more shit than it deserves. IM3 I ALSO think gets more shit than it deserves, but it has more problems than IM2 did.
>>77328211
I don't have the picture on me right now, but you can see a silhouette of Jan during the sequence when Lang shrinks into the Microverse.
sure there are better versions
>The Spider-Man reference
>>77328335
>>77328355
I like how the Way Janet died was pretty much the way Bucky died in the comics
>>77328488
>>77328504
I wonder how much of Lang's trip to the microverse he actually can't recall, and how much he willingly isn't saying.
Because the reflection of Jan off of his helmet here
>>77328488
>>77328504
>>77328523
Seemed to me that he actually did see her and doesn't want to get Pym back into a self-destructive obsession. Also the experience was probably majorly traumatic for him.
>>77328335
>>77328355
>>77328488
>>77328504
>>77328523
>>77328588
Seeing whatever it is he saw is definitely going to traumatize him. Even after everything was over Hank sat down and had a little cry because If Scott made it, then so could she. It's for the best that he doesnt know, he needs to move forward
>>77328733
But now he knows there is a chance.
And I wonder how long til we see the Microverse again.
>>77328848
Ant-Man two probably. Thinking on it again, Scott actulally went deeper than she did, if he could come back then so could she
>>77325165
>but this was easily the best MCU movie to date.
Yeah, maybe if Edgar Wright actually directed it.
Winter Soldier, Iron man 1 and Guardians are all significantly better. Antman was a solid movie, but it wasn't amazing by any means.
>>77329149
>muh Edgar Wright
let it go
>>77328848
>>77329041
>Janet is rescued in Ant-Man and the Wasp
>turns out her time in the Microverse drove her crazy
>she becomes Red Queen
How would you react, /co/?
>>77325165
I'm surprised that they actually had civilian comic relief that was actually funny, useful and likeable. Unlike a other marvel movie, I'm looking at you Dark World.
>>77329149
>Yeah, maybe if Edgar Wright actually directed it.
After reading everything they changed and what he wanted to do, I'm glad he didn't.
>>77329214
Badly, I want the Pym family whole again
>>77329270
I can't believe that people were mad at how the hispanic and black guy were acting. People actually started throwing around the word steryotype. How else do expect two ethnic criminals to act in a comedy?
>>77329214
I like the idea, but Marvel should be probably too scared to go through with it.
>>77329298
Why? This movie as is still fucked with the source material enough as it is. Wright, at the very least, is a much better visual director. Again, the movie itself was fine, but it wasn't particularly impressive in any area. The microverse stuff in particular looked really dull and you can almost guarantee if that was in the original version of the script, Wright would have done some really crazy stuff with it.
Besides, all those MCU connection scenes weren't forced as fuck and it made Falcon out to be a pretty big asshole for busting out those uzis like two punches into that fight.
>>77326460
Someone with better photo shop skills should edit that
>>77329270
>Unlike a other marvel movie, I'm looking at you Dark World.
I fucking love the big titty lady.
>>77329464
>the adaptation isn't like the source material
>>77329298
Has it ever actually been proven Hank was the real bad guy in the Wright version? I see it posted a lot but there's never been a source.Cross was a pretty generic MCU bad guy anyway, I don't think it would have mattered.
>>77327596
>>77327969
Ok yeah, that bit where he's shrinking and there's a white light and you can see a shadow of a person
>>77329586
Do you read the rest of a thread before you post?
>>77329649
Nope, was scrolling down
>>77329505
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize Hank and Janet were shield covert-ops 30 years ago and that Hope Pym exists in anything but MC2 where she's on the board of directors in her dad's non-existent company and her dad never built Ultron, but he did take on a one-off villain who never had super powers but was more or less a human Ultron that created the Yellowjacket persona.
I guess I've been making up a bunch of headcannon shit for those hundreds of Avengers stories I've read.
Everyone who thought this movie was gonna bomb is a idiot and probably a hater/DC kek.
I said it a year ago, and I'm saying it now. After the guardians, nothing marvel releases will bomb, until the infinity war.
After the infinity war? Maybe.
People have to deal with the fact that marvel studios is not warner.
>>77329766
Are you dense? Of course the adaptation isnt going to be 1:1 the source material. The reaction image and the qouted text imply that it's a tired and bored argument.
>>77329779
>Everyone who thought this movie was gonna bomb is a idiot and probably a hater/DC kek.
>a hater/DC kek.
Dude shut the fuck up. People thought that the movie wasnt going to do well because AoU left a bad taste in their mouths and there wasnt that much of a push for the movie in the months leading up. We got the first trailer like a month before it came out. No one thought that it was outright going to bomb, we just had some doubts.
>>77329779
The only WB cape movie that "bombed" recently was Green Lantern and thats only because they gave it a ludicrously high budget and producers interfered with it on an almost daily basis.
And it still broke even anyway.
>>77329913
What aboutJonah Hex?
>>77329898
>No one thought that it was outright going to bomb
>we just had some doubts
>we
I like that you're posting on behalf of all the anonymous people on /co/. This is the shame shit people said after DofP was good and did well at the box-office. People were clearly saying it could be Marvel's first flop. Don't try to rewrite the past, bitch nigga.
>>77329828
And my reasoning is if that stuff is okay, why is what Wright wanted to do bad?
They're both drastic changes from 616 stuff.
>>77329898
You're wrong. Get out of your fucking rock.
People always said that ant-man was gonna bomb, way before AoU.
What people don't understand when they assume that a marvel movie is gonna bomb, and the guardians of the galaxy ended up proving this point, is that people like Marvel. They will watch anything they made. If it is good or not, it doesn't matter. People like marvel movies, people like the MCU and assuming that a movie is gonna bomb because of the director or the time it took to get made is stupidity. Those "cinema rules" don't apply to marvel, that's why they managed to make the MCU a thing.
Even AoU, which is a weak movie indeed, is still enjoyable to watch, with it's endless quips and the good ol' marvel formula. But this recipe works, and will keep working until people get tired of cape movies.
>>77330044
I never said anything about Wright anon?
>>77327072
I actually kind of loved Age of Quiptron. It certainly isn't better than the first 3 in there, but still.
>inb4 How.
>a movie about a group of tacticool-spandex-wearing dudes, plus one with an armor that shoots lazors
>nobody taking each other seriously, even in death's doors
>the main villain being a jerk who's constantly exchanging banter with the heroesthis is a guilty pleasure of mine
>the final battle is on a floating island full of killer robots, and between the heroes fighting them are one who has a shield for a weapon and another with a bow and arrows
8/10, best action comedy i've seen in years.
>>77329424
Because social justice friends will either be offended if a character acts too white or manly, or throw a shitfit if they use the norms associated with their culture. There's no winning with people.
>>77330444
I see what you mean now. If you try and play something like that too seriously, you're going to fail.
Hawkeye said it best.
>>77330669
makes me think, how much shit would Cap's "there's only one God" line get if the movie was released today?
>>77330820
>tfw the first avengers came out three years ago
Fuck, I feel so old...
>>77325290
I don't think anybody called Thor 2 or IM3 best MCU movies yet.
>>77326986
Is it me or did this happen at everybody's theater?
>>77329464
Have you actually read what Wright wanted to do with the movie though?
Like I'm pretty sure "Making Pym Yellowjacket" is literally the worst idea I can think of especially considering how GOAT Pym was in the actual movie.
>>77331220
It happened in mine
>>77329898
>No one thought that it was outright going to bomb
We clearly were browsing a different /co/ because I am pretty sure up to the day that it came out people were still sure Ant-Man was going to bomb. It wasn't like GoTG where people started actually liking how it looked over time
>>77329464
>This movie as is still fucked with the source material enough as it is
You know what a movie that fucked with the source material is? FantFourStick (also Keanu Reeves Constantine). And if you're putting Ant-Man on the same level as that, I don't know what to tell you.
>>77331309
Well, the the Ant-Man threads that I was in had a different out look. "No one" was bad wording on my part, but I saw more hopefulls than people that were sure it was going to bomb.
>>77331362
To be fair, even if Constantine fucked big time with the source material, it was still a pretty good movie on it's own.
>>77327424
>"I thought we were going to be using rats"
>"whats the difference?"
I was shocked that marvel did that scene and every time I watch it its the scene that first truly says villain in the way of he doesn't feel empathy and hes okay with it. That was the best part of Cross. He didn't care about anyone but himself. Everyone else in this world is a means to an end. Thats what i wanna see in more marvel villains.
>>77331432
Huh, I thought that was the weakest part of the whole film really, blatant grab for sympathy by using cuddly ickle lambs as shrink-ray fodder.
>>77331432
What is the difference?
>inb4 edgelord
Are scientist only allowed to use certain animals for their tests?
>>77331575
Rats would be harder to see if you shink-rayed them properly.
>>77329149
God that fight always makes my action movie boner rock hard. Such a believable fight. It draws you in and its so evenly match that i actually had my doubts about cap winning at some points.
>>77331415
I like to imagine its a different universe than the hellblazer version. Like an earth two john or something, makes the movie so much better and easier to stand the inconsistency.
>>77331654
Oh yeah, my favourite things about that is the little stuff that makes it really feel like these guys are superhuman. Like when Steve charges Bucky into the side of the van and makes a huge dent in the bodywork, or when Bucky kicks Steve at one car and he goes flying over the bonnet.
>>77331725
Why doesnt everyone do this when it comes to superhero movies? It's just an alternate universe
>>77331758
Isn't the whole MCU supposed to be in an alternate universe from the comics one? 199-something, I think.
>That scene where they're training and Scott starts slapping her thigh as she chokes him
>>77331872
Yes
>>77325165
are you from reddit?
>>77331940
Are you from tumblr?
>>77331274
Again, there's no sauce to anything about what Wright wanted to do. And yeah, how awful would it be for Pym, a character with mental illness, who actually did some very questionable things as Yellowjacket, be Yellowjacket.
>>77331575
>>77331534
Eh, moral dilemma of amount of self awareness/intelligence. It was a blatant grab for sympathy but i thought that was the beautiful part. It goes back to him slipping away from humanity. The complete contrast between him and hope showed where he already was at in mental stability. Made him feel like he was already at the edge and spitting on the people below him. Well, that scene and the bathroom scene. Thats why i think Cross is the best villain mcu has done so far.
They even gave her the pointy head thing like in the comics
How has no-one said anything about the cgi they used on Pym in the intro? I didn't even notice it the first time!
>This is the work of gypsies!
I wonder how he'll react to the Scarlet Witch?
>>77332216
That was fantastic work
>>77332352
Now that you mention her, remember in AoU when her and the other guy are giving their backstories, they say that the second shell to hit their house failed to explode?
Sounds a lot like her probability-powers at work there, even if she didn't realize she was doing it.
>>77332013
>And yeah, how awful would it be for Pym, a character with mental illness, who actually did some very questionable things as Yellowjacket, be Yellowjacket.
That would be incredibly awful yes. Yellowjacket Pym a shit
>>77332453
It would be cool if they had their powers on some level before all the testing.
>nieghborhood boys are racing
>Pietro in the back, starts pulling forward
>Blows past the other boys but none of them give a second thought to it
>>77332453
>>77332537
I love stuff like that
Isnt it weird how Cross just casually introduces Hank to Hydra? Shouldnt they all be in hiding or omething?
>>77332594
He obviously wasn't going to let him out that vault alive. Hell, I imagine he wanted Pym to be the first person that got zapped by the Yellowjacket.
>>77332594
>they're doing some interesting work
What else does Hydra have in store?
>>77332645
Well, considering Zemo is supposed to be in Civil War, they're probably planning something to try and kick the whole thing off.
>>77325165
Reminder the MCU is not a series itself. There is only individual franchises and occasional cross overs
>>77332713
Like comic books?
>>77332703
And the Hydra dude that hated Hank made off with the Yellojacket serum iirc
>>77332845
Yup. Sounds like a recipe for trouble even without the Yellowjacket.
Y'know, with Scott on Cap's side, the Civil War doesn't look so lopsided anymore.
>>77332982
And with a spiffy new costume too! Who's side is Wanda on?
>>77333033
If I recall, she's in hiding after losing control of her powers in an incident that helps trigger the whole meta-human accountability act
>>77333033
Staying neutral apparently. As is Spidey. Though its bound to change.
>>77333077
>>77333079
Makes sense
Meh, it had its moments. Really enjoyed the bedroom/toy train fight scene and some of the other size juxtapositions but it seemed pretty standard fare beyond that.
Still can't get over how amazing the Ant Man and Yellow Jacket suits looked. Still say Cross should have marketed the shrink gun. That thing was terrifying
>>77332454
Right, cause Cross had so much depth.
>literally tells you all the relationships with the characters, we dont see anything like his relationship with Pym deteriorate or exactly why he gives a shit about Hope
>we don't see him gradually deterioriate mentally, he literally kills that one guy at the end of his first scene, we just get a one off line about how particles are probably messing with his mind
>he's apparently a pro at shrinking and using the yellowjacket suit even though it took Scott a great deal of training with barely any time being able to shrink given how it blew up everything else
>but he had a cool design so its okay
Okay, anon. Cross sucked just like every MCU villain. Yellowjacket Pym probably would have sucked too, but it's not like we got something better in return.
>>77333146
I asked that same question yesterday. Watching the movie now it makes more sense for the YellowJacket suit instead of the shrink gun because Hydra would be using it for stealth missions and probably eventually against The Avengers. I still don't see why he couldnt make "goop" a setting on the lasers buy hey, i'm no scientist.
So who the hell are they bringing in as the sequel villain? I'm glad we're getting a Ant Man/Wasp team up but outside of Mad Thinker or MODOK I'm stumped
>>77333319
Egghead? It doesn't really matter, Cross was never Yellowjacket and that suit was never a shrinking version of the Iron Man mark V armor.
>>77326147
The thing about the Falcon scene was that it took Ant-Man from the realm of it's own story with light references to characters like Stark, into "hey we are in the Avengers movie world, isn't that great."
And while having Marvel movies share universe can produce nice things, forcing the crossovers just doesn't work.
>>77333319
The Scarlet Beetle? Or maybe Egghead,or Whirlwind as Hopes deranged ex?A rouge Ultron drone? By Ant-Man two he will have his Giant form so maybe a monster fight?
>>77333319
Radioactive Man?
>>77331654
>>77331739
What really sells that fight for me is that it's the first time in the movie when it really looks like Cap's fighting for his life. You really get the sense that they're evenly matched instead of him just punching in the bad guys' faces like he was doing for the rest of the movie up to that point.
It was a really nice more down to earth cape flick. The cheesy lines from the trailers about how Ant-Man sounds stupid weren't even in the movie. Definitely one fo the most enjoyable out of the bunch, in the same category as first Iron Man and Winter Soldier.
People who legitimately thought it was going to flop severely underestimate the hype of Marvel movies. Even normies are suspicious of WB after GL and DKR, Man of Steel got mixed reviews, but people were less hype for it than fucking Guardians Of The Galaxy - which were mostly completely unknown to casuals.
What I think is interesting is that in the rest of the world Ant-Man is the third least in-bringing MCU movie, but the Chinese loved it; it's only beaten by Avengers in the box office. Why is that? Is it the Kamen-Rider/Super Sentai-esque suit?
Or do Chinese just really love ANTS?
.
>>77331575
Once you've worked your way up to vertebrates and mammals there isn't much difference between using different ones unless you're studying specific organ systems or something.
Even disregarding the "BUT THEY'RE SO CUTE" argument, rats would be better to use because they're much, MUCH cheaper to keep and raise in a lab than sheep.
Shit I mean if you wanted an animal model that's the closest to human physiology without using monkeys or something, pigs are a better analogue.
Just finished watching Ant-man for the first time.
Really solid and really enjoyed it.
Also surprised that the director didn't have anything else of note under his name before this.
>>77333736
>Even normies are suspicious of WB after GL and DKR
And Jonah Hex. It sucked so bad most people forget it exists
Man, The Wasps suit in the flashback was perfect. My friend and I got excited as fuck when we saw it.
>>77333736
actually he quips about how his name is shit once
>>77333146
I actually bought a figure of the Ant-Man suit from the movie because it's so fucking cool looking. It's sitting on my shelf next to my Kamen Rider SHF models. I just need to track down the Yellowjacket one now.
>>77333768
Stop reminding me.
>mfw it would've been fucking amazing if WB had just committed to making a straight-up gritty Western with no tricks
>>77333514
>>77333393
>>77333565
Radioactive Man would be alright. I like the idea of Whirlwind but isn't he technically a mutant? Might have a rights issue there.
>>77333833
If I have to remember, you all do too
>>77333787
That line got taken out of the actual theatrical release. They only used it for the trailers.
>>77333872
that's weird, I distinctly remember watching that happen on the big screen
Yep, it's Jan
>>77333896
Huh, where did you see it?
>>77333910
>You can even see the wings.
That's rad.
>>77325165
>I typically avoid any thread for movies on /co/ because this isn't /tv/
ftfy
>>77325165
It's enjoyable, but it's still second best to Winter Soldier.
>>77333916
Charleston, SC, early in the release cycle
>>77333033
>No cool buckle for the belt
YOU HAD ONE JOB
>>77333910
Thank you, the second time I saw the movie I watched for this but never saw it
>>77333958
I saw it in WV and don't remember that line. Weird. I don't think it's a demographic/region thing in that case.
>Yeah, and this dude sounds like a bad-ass, man. Like he comes up to her and says… [we see flashback of the girl meting up with Sam Wilson in a park] “Yoh, I’m looking for this dude who’s no one seen, who’s flashing this fresh tack, who’s got, like, bomb moves, right? Who you got? She’s like: “Well, we got everything nowadays, we got a guy who jumps, we got a guy who swings, we got a guy who crawls up the walls. You gotta be more specific.” And he’s like: “I’m looking for a guy who shrinks.” And I’m like: “Damn!” [to Scott] I got all nervous cause I keep mad secrets for you, bro. So I asked Ignacio: “Did bad-ass tell the stupid fine writer chick to tell you to tell me because I’m tight with that man, that he’s looking for him?”
>we got a guy who jumps, we got a guy who swings, we got a guy who crawls up the walls. You gotta be more specific
So the swinging is probably Spider-Man, so who are the other two?
>>77333033
It might just be the art, but I'm on the fence about the helmet change. Seems too.....if I cone shaped? I'm sure it will look better on film. Other than that I'm fine with it. Makes sense they would improve a suit used since the Cold War
>>77325165
It was a good movie and this and Winter Soldier were the only movies so far to have a credible endgame fight.
>>77333942
>I typically avoid any thread for movies on /co/ because this it's full of autists who complain about the thread belonging on /tv/ even though the moderation of the oard already said it was okay
ftfy
>>77334044
You dope, she's talking about the same person but splitting them up for effect.
>>77334044
Technically they all apply to Spidey. It may even be a case of mixed reports given that he's rumored to be an urban myth at this current time. But perhaps it's swings-Thor, jumps-Hulk, and wall crawling - Peter
>>77334060
what do you have against cone shaped heads?
>>77334114
>>77334131
Well the way she (technically Carlos) says it seems like three different people
>>77328258
The ending was bad too. We spend 15 minutes on Iron Man running Roughshod trough the Hammaer drones and then...Whiplash shows up. Now we are going to get a real fight.
Or they blow him up in less than a minute.
>>77334283
How did that work again? The beams were on different frequencies?
>>77325290
Guardians and Winter Soldier were by far the best marvel films IMO. They made Iron Man 1 drop down a peg IMO, as well as showcase how to do team films properly compared to the avengers debacles Whedon shit out.
my fav comic flicks (no order):
Super
Dark Knight trilogy
Guardians
Winter Soldier
MoS
Unbreakable
300
Sin City
Watchmen
DoFP
i also enjoyed:
Iron Man 1n2
Thor 2
Cap 1
Sin City 2
Amazing Spiderman 1n2
Chronicle
XMen First Class
god tier- Scott Pilgrim! lol so fucking good
>>77333975
shhhhhh, we slick costume designs now
I was losing my shit when they actually used Pym Discs.
So do Hank and Hope own the company again now?
>>77334387
but muh ridur-like design
>>77334546
As much as I love Kamen Rider, the Ant-Man suit is definitely not a Rider design. The eyes aren't big enough, for one thing.
>>77334546
I said shhhhhhhhh
>>77334585
>but muh rider-like design
>like
You do see the similarites though right?
>>77334325
Budget Magic? Panoramic shots of Hammer Drones blowing up in the distance is probably far cheaper than a closeup threeway power armor brawl.
All the Marvel movies except Winter Soldier and Ant Man have had poor to nonexistent boss fights. Either they fight total pushovers like the Chitauri in Avengers 1, or they Deus ex Machinea them like in Guardians of the Galaxy (i liked GotG except for the limp ending).
>>77334086
>the mods said it's ok that means it's ok for us to be retarded
seriously. just because some asshole said it's ok doesn't mean it should be done, or that anyone here actually wants this.
>>77334730
>they Deus ex Machinea them like in Guardians of the Galaxy (i liked GotG except for the limp ending).
how would a bunch of nobodies beat a dude with a infinity gem in a direct fight?
>>77327120
>not the ants pants
faggot
>>77334745
>seriously. just because some asshole said it's ok doesn't mean it should be done, or that anyone here actually wants this.
Except for the people that do
>>77334636
>You do see the similarites though right?
Oh yeah, definitely. The insect theme, the suit material. It could definite be a Rider design with a few tweaks (bigger eyes, forehead gem, more prominent belt buckle,etc). That could be a project for a /co/ drawfag (except it doesn't involve waifus or porn).
Or you could take it the other direction and make a Metal Hero design.
>>77334822
fite me m8
>>77334745
Why is it we have constant threads with 100+ replies about it then? It's always been a part of /co/ to discuss comic related adaptions. Who are you speaking for here?
>>77334843
that's different, that's just mods not wanting to deal with more work.
>>77334890
If you say so
>>77334890
kek
>>77325165
>best MCU movie yet
HAHAHA
no
It's pacing is fucking garbage and it's writing is terrible as well
Is it entertaining? Yes, it's a lot better than I thought an Ant-Man movie could be. Is it good? Not really, but I like it.
Is it the best MCU movie? No, I'd give that to Cap 2 (Although the pacing for that also wasn't great, Disney should let the directors lengthen their movies a bit. I weep for how shit Civil War will be) or GotG (Which had bad pacing near the end and which had really bad characterization)
>>77334854
This is true, I asked for two characters to be drawn hanging out and got nothing. I asked for a lewd of the same character and got great fap material
>>77325290
It's just that all of 4chan are hipsters that follow the same typical cycle
>>77334795
They could get the gem away from him, and then beat him rather than have the villain be defeated in a few seconds by means of magic rock.
I would not mind the fact that the GotG ended the way it did if not for the fact that just about every Marvel movie have had a similar or worse showing for its villains.
>>77329214
what if janet becomes the red queen + the red wasp(ultimate) + the swarm(ultimate) all in one villan
>>77334585
>>77334636
I'd be cool with just the regulator like the previous design, or maybe some sort of pym particle gauge, like G3's battery indicator.
>>77334044
I'm thinking that its:
>Swings: Thor - He swings his hammer
>Jumps: Hulk - He jumped a round a bunch in Avengers 1
>Crawls up the walls: Obviously Spidey
>>77333146
There are already a plethora of guns that kill people dead in various manners. A suit that let shrink to a few milimiters high and infiltrate anything ever sounds much more promising.
>still no mask
>>77333787
Nope, pretty sure both instances of "can I change the name" and "I didn't pick the name" from the early trailers got cut out of the theater releases. At least the ones I've seen, which are English and French-Canadian respectively.
>>77325290
It's not their fault the last few big releases happen to be their best minus Ultron.
>>77335214
I doubt Jeremy Renner would want to cover his face
>>77334044
It's Spider-Man, Spider-Man and Spider-Man.
>>77335252
>I didnt pick the name
showed up in a cam rip I watched during the Falcom fight
>>77335508
Might be a case where they left it in an international version. It definitely wasn't in the one I saw.
They left in the "What, you haven't heard of me?" line in the Falcon fight because it was similar but funnier/less self deprecating.
>>77326234
that was literally his first "appearance" as Antman. He wasn't a hero at that point at all.
>>77335973
I'm in the US
>>77336048
Yeah but you said you watched a cam rip which could be from anywhere
The Inside Out cam rip I watched had Spanish text on shit
>>77336092
Yeah I caught that after I posted
>>77328274
Teenie-verse
Who /wasp/ here
Sequel is gonna be great if they keep the same relationship type between them
>fighting together while bantering
>>77333836
>Chinese villain
>china literally funds disney/marvel movies now
lol no
>>77329149
>Dat Knife slide through the car
Fave partbesides seeing with audience that didn't know the Bucky twist
This movie fucking stunk. More fluff for the girl gamers and casuals
>>77329149
MUH EDGAR WRIGHT
Movie was better without him
>>77329464
Reed put the microverse in the film
>>77336432
I heard a few gasps after the unmasking too. I was surprised that there were people who didn't know that because they didn't make ANY attempt to hide the fact that Bucky's actor was in the movie.
>>77329464
>The microverse stuff in particular looked really dull
Opinion invalidated
>>77336670
That was a really cool sequence and one of the few times I was happy I shelled out the extra bucks for the 3D showing.
>>77336670
>avatar fagging with a picture of literal coonery hahah its funny cause people different color than me talk different
Opinion shit
>>77336709
same
>>77336789
>avatar fagging
retard alert
>>77336832
Racist alert
>>77336867
How so?
>>77336789
>avatar fagging
This your first day on 4chan, champ? Never heard of reaction images?
>>77336709
Here's a question for you:
He shrank down small enough to slide BETWEEN the Titanium molecules. But when he got through, he was still bigger than the electronics "Cross fluid (Cross particles ?)" container.
I still liked the movie very much, though. Psychotic Cross was GOAT.
>>77336789
>>avatar fagging with a picture of literal coonery hahah its funny cause people different color than me talk different
Are you having a stroke?
>>77336934
must be
>>77336971
probably, it would explain why he went quiet
>>77336965
You can pick apart this movie pretty easily if you think about it
>you retain mass so you can punch hard even when small
>but standing on a gun or having a tank in your pocket doesn't way anything down
The answer to all these questions and more?Pymforce
>>77337011
>>77336965
>question:
** how was he still bigger
>>77337031
I never get a chance to use this
>>77336912
You like Ant Man
>>77337140
And?
>>77336965
I remember thinking that too. Maybe he found a microscopic crack or seam and disabled the electronics before he got smaller uncontrollably.
>>77337078
Anytime we have a thread about the upcoming Civil War movie where someone asks "HOW DOES CAPS' TEAM EVEN STAND A CHANCE"
>>77337262
Never thought of that, will remember
>>77333736
>Even normies are suspicious of WB after GL and DKR
>DKR
I hate to break this to you, but only shitty places like /co/ and /tv/ think this was a bad movie.
And personally, I think it's great. It's certainly a better film than Begins, even if the characters aren't "accurate" to the comics.
>>77335088
I honestly see this happening.
>>77337355
nah, I know normalfags who didn't like it as much as TDK or Begins.
Personally I like it right up until Bruce breaks out of the prison, and then it kind of shits the bed with the ending. It's a better cap to the development of Bruce as Batman than people give it credit for, during the whole trilogy Nolan plays up the idea that Bruce really doesn't want to BE Batman forever and is so destroyed about the end of TDK because he saw it as his final stand, and was looking forward to settling down and having a normal life with the city saved. DKR was him realizing that the city is always going to be under threat, but the ideal of Batman was live on even if he's not under the cowl. So he sets up a way for it to continue on and remain a part of the public consciousness.If anything it's pretty damn Morrisonian because like the chalk markings of the Batman symbol represent, TDKR marks the Batman's apotheosis into a meme
>>77337197
It is a racist movie?
>>77337540
No.
>>77334365
>namefag is a snyderfag and asmfag
Not surprising.
>>77337548
Yes
>>77337653
How so?
>>77335117
>>Swings: Thor - He swings his hammer
>>Jumps: Hulk - He jumped a round a bunch in Avengers 1
No one would describe Thor as just "a guy that swings"
>>77328047
>generic filler
Filler has become such a meaningless word at this point.
>>77333161
I don't think he was a pro, I think the suit was just that much more advanced. Scott had to learn how to direct his incredible strength and momentum at that size, while Cross could fly. Its like comparing suddenly having the Hulks power set to Supermans. Both take learning, but one makes you stupidly strong, the other essentially makes you into a god...
My analogy might have gotten away from me, but I stand by it!
>>77333319
What if the villain is Hope?
I mean, that is her MC2 origin, Red Queen.
And Hope was a cunt in the movie.
>>77338876
Hope was fine you nigger
>>77336259
Dem arms tho
>>77338876
Hope was only a cunt because she had a shitty childhood that gave her major trust issue hang-ups. And she's starting to work through them by the end of it because despite everything she still cares about her dad.
>>77336259
That's another thing this movie did very well. It managed to show some realistically screwed up relationships (Lang is estranged from his divorced wife and their daughter, who is trying to move on and is dating another guy, Hope has huge daddy issues from basically raising herself after her mom died) but manages to show them all in a way that doesn't demonize one side and makes the other out to be a saint. Hell even Lang's ex-wife's new cop fiancee turns out to be a pretty cool guy by the end of the movie.
>>77339486
>even Lang's ex-wife's new cop fiancee turns out to be a pretty cool guy by the end of the movie.
This. It was really fucking nice to show a functional stepfamily.
I think going out of their way to make Bobby Canavale's character sympathetic at the end was a little too on the nose but I'll take it over another "muh ex-wife's fianceé is an asshole, I'll sure show him by the end of the movie" plot. Him genuinely caring about Cassie was a nice touch.
