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>Elsa and Anna
>Not once do they show any forms of giving a shit about Arendelle, caring more about each other with the former being an ice witch who nearly doomed the kingdom into eternal winter by throwing a tantrum and the latter being a childish slut who wants to fuck the nearest thing despite being told not to.

>Hans
>Actually gave a shit about the kingdom when the ice witch threw an icy hissy-fit, such as giving out blankets. Also actually tried to convince Elsa to not be a monster when confronted.

What the fuck Disney. At least guys like Prince John, Scar, Lotso, and Turbo were shown genuine proof to being outright scumbag rulers.
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Right thing, wrong reasons.

He still was into murdering people for power.
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>>76591050
So, he's no different than any POTUS?
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>>76591050
>murdering people for power
That's politics for ya
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>>76591050
He was just that good. To make any sense of their story writers had to pull this shit coup de teat out of their asses.
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>>76591082
Probably because Hans wasn't the villain until late rewrites.
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>>76591050
Thats basically the elections in mideval society
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If Hans wanted to be King ASAP then why did he go after Anna?
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>>76591184
"Elsa was preferable, of course, but no one was getting anywhere with her."
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>>76591184
He says it himself.

Wooing Elsa is impossible. Wooing Anna is easy. So he just needs to kill Elsa after he marries Anna.
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>>76590894
He wasn't even first in line for the throne. You can't get away with that stuff unless you are the heir apparent.
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>>76591224
Sounds risky.
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>>76591063
Go to bed Batroc.
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>>76591224
>Elsa is pure
>Anna is a slut
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>>76591204
>settling for 2nd best
That's not very Kingly of him.
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>>76591050

So were the founding fathers.
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>>76591307
Tip it
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>>76591050
goblin king
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>>76591417
Meant to post this
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>>76590894
Y'Know, I was wondering who was the ad hoc ruler prior to Elsa taking the throne at her coronation.
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>>76591518
A regent. In earlier drafts, he had an actual role in the story (voiced by Louis C.K.)
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>>76591564
Interesting. Thanks for the tip.
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>>76591224
>wooing Elsa was impossible
Vut Hans literally trained for the impossible with the prequel book mentions him studying Elsa's like and interests in preparation of wooing her.
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Couldn't it have been easier to convince Elsa to abdicate?

What were the laws about that in the Nordic countries at that time?
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>>76591204
So if Hans wasn't such a quitter then he could've been the king by now.
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Honestly even if Elsa didn't go Dark Phoenix eventually Anna would have been given the throne. With her unwilling to marry and thus unable to give a viable heir, her legitimacy would have been revoked and Anna would have been crowned. All Hans had to do was play the waiting game.
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>>76593172
Her plan was probably to just name Anna her heir, which isn't that uncommon. It only gets risky if Anna died before popping out a kid
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>>76591050
Murdering who, though?
He was going to kill Elsa, yes, but that only seemed certain after she proved incapable of dispelling the unseasonable weather she had created. He wouldn't have needed to kill her otherwise, just lock her up; a monster is not fit to rule, after all. And he wasn't going to directly kill Anna, he simply wasn't able to save her himself. Locking her up reduced the already remote chance of her finding a cure on her own, sure, but in the end the blood would be mainly on her sister's hands.

His only real sin was pretending he was in love with Anna, and manipulating her.
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>>76590894
>>Actually gave a shit about the kingdom when the ice witch threw an icy hissy-fit
He was still trying to look good. The Elsa scene is incredibly stupid since he was trying to kill her anyway.
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>>76593941

And for a Disney film, if it's not 'true love' it's an unforgivable sin. Regicide is a-okay so long as you don't break a girl's heart.
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>>76591050
He's Obama/[insert politician here] because 95% of them are sociopaths.
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>>76591236
That sounds perfectly reasonable until the last sentence where he goes mad with power and decides to fuck over the palace. It's not even like he lost the battle, he just got so distracted with obtaining power that he trapped himself in the bottle forever.

Until the sequel, I guess.

Also the part where Jasmine kisses him on the lips for an uncomfortably long time was, well, unsettling.
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>>76593941
they tried to push the "manipulative psychopath" characterization a little further by giving him an evil smile when he tries to cut Elsa down.
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>>76591236
>>76594977

Also the royal adviser marrying the princess wasn't actually a law either. Jaffa made it up, pulled out a scroll to pretend it was authentic and when the Sultin tried to look at it he got a snake staff brain wash to the face.
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