Are they supposed to be really awkward together?
>>70245612
inb4 urban legends in 5...4...3...2...1
>>70245612
they didnt seem awkward. just like any normal brother and sister. which indicates to me they spent a lot of time together growing up.
>>70246302
They changed her look because of all the porn being made of her
She was supposed to be the love interest of the show but they couldn't think of a reason that she was tagging along so they made her his cousin
>>70246536
The porn thing never made sense to me. Was the logic really supposed to be "there's too much porn, let's give her glasses, a plaid skirt and stockings?"
Did these imaginary execs come from the moon, or what?
Incest is the best. Put your cousin to the test.
>>70246623
describing omniverse gwen, you filthy plebeian. The fugglification of the Alienforce gwen was indeed suspected and stood for a long while as an unconfirmed truth, The theory was that the execs caught wind of the r34 being done of ben and gwen after some chinese-mexican idiot took fan art and published a sticker album with a pregnant gwen. They decided that they needed to "age up" the character and distance her from gwen, lest kids keep confusing them as a couple. So in alienforce they made her fuggly and paired her with Kevin Levin (who was never meant to be a main character to the series to begin with) only to distance her and ben and avoid r34 from being done. The official story of the execs was that they chose to switch animation studios because of budget constraints.
I heard they were originally written as unrelated young love interests.
>>70252045
>>70246536
In the beginning, she was a love interest. At first, she was supposed to be the kid, grandkid or niece of one of the old man's war buddies, but they could not get the execs to sign off on an unrelated young girl being dragged across the country with two men.
>>70246536
Wait, I don't get it.
Their idea of making her less sexualised was to change her from a young girl into a teenager?
>>70245612
>>70246536
as if them being related isn't half the reason they're shipped.
>>70245612
Sexual tension does tend to lead to awkwardness, OP.
>>70252394
Welcome to cartoons
>>70252394
You must be new here. (Pic related.)
>>70252575
>Tension
>implying she didn't have his dic 12 ways to sunday
>>70252635
Just trying to rationalize it from the execs point of view.
She legitimately became less attractive. I had this conversation with a lot of people, trying to figure out what made her less appealing about becoming a teenager but something did. The darker red hair seemed to be one of the negative factors.
>>70253448
She looked a lot more princess-y, kind of cold and aloof, rather than the scrappy & sassy tween Gwen. Less relatable, less interesting.
>>70253448
I have to say the lips and chin didn't help.
>>70254056
This, the rest of the design is just incredibly blandlike every other design in Alien Force
>>70246536
>She was supposed to be the love interest of the show but they couldn't think of a reason that she was tagging along so they made her his cousin
Aliens kidnapped her dad while they met on a camping trip.
Boom. Granted this si the April oniel plotline, but this was BEFORE 2012 TMNT so, fuck it.
Jesus writers, get your shit together.
>>70246536
>>70245612
Isn't the love interest thing actually true though?
I mean, they have WAY too much chemistry than people should be comfortable with if they were designed as being related from the beginning.
>>70254109
>>70254056
So I guess I was the only one who thought she was hotter in Alien Force?
>>70254650
I'd pick Omin over her
>>70247761
What?
>>70254109
and the shit
>>70254850
...Gwen's face isn't shooped, is it?
>>70254777
I don't see how you haven't seen that image before
>>70255008no_
>>70255008
nope that's from the show.
>>70255171
>>70254396
>they have WAY too much chemistry
You ain't kiddin'.
http://youtu.be/bL7tHQAvzSQ
Incognitymous pls come back.
You're like, the one guy that draws good Gwen porn.And the only guy that draws Katie Power porn at all
>>70256065
Dude, he passed away..
>>70256082
What, like six feet under?
Shit...
>>70256082
Salud to his beautiful soul
>>70254056I still like her
>>70255310
>>70255171
oh hey therebest girl
I just got to the episode where the Forever Knights put Ben in a perfect dream state. Please tell me this isn't the show's peak because this was good as fuck and I want more.
No matter how bad the redesigns get, no matter how many canon curveballs are thrown at me, I will never stop supporting this ship. They were literally made for each other.
>>70256082
proof?
>>70254396
There still related
Shit
>>70256082
Wait what?
Noooooo
>>70245612
They weren't meant to be cousins originally
>>70245612
I used to have a huge crush on the girl whatever her name wasSorry i don't usually come to /co/ but i thought i'd share this
>>70252126
Ben is not a man, he is a boy. It's not too weird for friends to hang out together
>>70252394
That's a false rumor, they just wanted to do a timeskip. There's another rumor that they got love interests to kill the Bwen shipping, but it bombed
>>70253448
She looks nothing like Gwen. She just looked like someone watched too much Kim Possible.
>>70254850
Oh god, what?
>>70257757
Is there an actual source do this or is it just /co/ speculation?
Do people actually like this show? I mean incest aside it's just a bland kids action show with two annoying main characters. My sister and cousins used to watch it so I was exposed to it a bit through that but nothing I ever saw of it suggested it was of any entertainment value to anyone outside the demographic.
Although on the other hand I'd love to read a decent AU fic about those two kids as teenagers or somethingif you get my implication
>>70255171
looks too much like
>>70258324
>Do people actually like this show?
Nah, we like the sequels when they are actually teenagers and not annoying.
wait, that brunette girl in the second show is supposed to be gwen?
holy fucking shit this is hilarious
>>70258550
No, people hate the sequels but love the original
>>70258564
>>70258595
That's just the vocal minority, man.
>>70258312
I need source on that image. I've actually never seen that one.
>>70258684
you can say that about any opinions here.
>>70258684
No it is not.
>>70247761
>Because no one hugs their pregnant cousins unless incest.
oh..ok...
To be honest, even in real life sticking cousins in close quarters isolated from their peers in the more hormonal times of puberty is asking for trouble. You add life and death situations and adrenaline and you got the recipe for a teen pregnancy. The fact that Gwen was hot and that Ben was heroic don't even really need to be mentioned.
>>70256082
I hope you're right.
Fuck him.
>>70259834
This. I knocked my cousin up when I was fighting crime cross country when we were that age. It was hell explaining it to the parents.
>>70260106
>>70259834
>knocking up
>at age ten
Back to school
>>70245612
TV Tropes would call that shit "relationship writing fumble"
it´s not you standard shipping, it´s literally writers fucking up subtext where it was not supposed to.
>>70260255
It actually can happen. Girls often hit puberty at age 9 to 10, and boys are starting to hit puberty under the usual 12 to 13 nowadays.
>>70255337
they had a lot of these episodes written before they decided to change her to being a cousin, didn't they?
>>70260548
>Girls often hit puberty at age 9 to 10
Not from my experience
>>70257869
someone saw soul eater
>>70256082
Why are there a bazillion Ben x Keven fan fics on AO3, but almost no Ben x Gwen?
>>70260951
faggots man....
>>70260951
AO3 is fangirl and Tumblr territory. The normal fanfic site is better unless you are in certain fandoms.
UAF Gwen grew on me
>>70245612
How much /co/ has inexplicable incestuous subtext in it?
>>70261368
How many shows have siblings in it?
>>70261368
>>70261426
The Littles. Tom and Lucy are way too close.
It might not seem obvious at first, but watch a few episodes and you might see what I mean.
>>70260951
>Why are there a bazillion Ben x Keven fan fics on AO3, but almost no Ben x Gwen?
It makes my heart weep. Hopefully someone will post a link to a few good ones.
>>70261368
Afterlife with Archie literally has twincest
>>70261098
Searching on the normal fanfic site is hell though. Nothing is tagged, Not pairings, not characters, not plots, and you can only browse one fandom at a time. You need to search individually through Avatar fics, Ben Ten fics, Pokemon fics, etc.... for something good.
>>70262182
Uh...did i miss something?
>>70262465
>Uh...did i miss something?
Hot steamy incest maybe?
>>70261368
Both Avatar shows, for starters
>>70262465
Context: Ben might've been fighting while sleepwalking so Gwen decides to cuff him to test if he really was.
>>70255337
Damn, even Grandpa sees it.
>Oh shit, better go break those two up. Parents'll kill me if they start exploring each other...
>>70262045
What? No, they have characters to select.
>>70254056
Also the Jew nose.
Also the lack of eyelashes.
Also the fact that her entire face is made of HARD ANGLES.
They deliberately made her unattractive. It's a forgone conclusion at this point.
>>70263153
>Also the Jew nose.
Ok, what?
You know you're a total moron, right?
>>70263195
I'm exaggerating of course, but compare the size of their noses here
>>70252415
>>70256065
and here
>>70254850
>>70254056
Notice they extended her nasal bridge. Her nose is bigger than Ben's.
>>70247761
Budget constraints my ass. Ever hear of a model sheet? Jesus.
>>70245612
Yes.
Most single-child cousins are.
You have a halfway expectation of acting like siblings, but don't know how. Couple that with unfamiliar kid so you mix impressing stunts and bravado with awkwardness and a one-person school-like social thing and you end up with that.
>>70263032
Yeah, but half the stories are untagged, and a lot of the tagged ones are incomplete. They'll list one or two characters in the tags, but the description will mention half a dozen more. Or it'll explicitly claim to be about a certain pairing, but the tags don't include it.
out of my way loli Gwen fucking shits
>>70263506
It doesn't help when your cousin is both the opposite sex and really hot. Trust me.
>>70263559
It's true.
>>70263559
>>70263551
Ah yes, madam 10/10.
That episode that took place in the future in season four. Ben's son acted an awful lot like Gwen...
>>70263705
Please pass the egg salad.
Does anyone have that bumper of Gwen getting jealous when Ben check's another CN character (I think Daphne) out at a beach?
>>70263787
RAGGLE FRAGGLE
>>70256082
Shit really
>>70261700
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=858N8nHBg6A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
My theory is that Lucy somehow knows that no other Little can compare to the guy that fucking faces down giant rats, cats and other crazy shit for her.
>>70263875
>Does anyone have that bumper of Gwen getting jealous when Ben check's another CN character (I think Daphne) out at a beach?
That sounds awesome.
came here for the porn, left disappointed
>>70264022
go to /co/ promotions or something
>>70264022
I know!
>>70264005
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=858N8nHBg6A&feature=youtube_gdata_player [Embed]
There does seem to be a weird vibe going on there; a crush at the very lease.
>>70263875
https://youtu.be/OBgLZ2EXSYI
>>70263683
So much anal.
>>70262182AND THEN THEY FUCKED!
>>70264266
She's an incestuous butt slut. She sleeps ass up.
>>70264266
Well she IS best girlunless time for pegging, then she makes Ben best girl
>>70264327
Saved, thanks anon.
>>70264334
>>70264237
not even subtle with the incest, are they?
>>70264334
Won't stop Ben from using the other hole and "accidentally" cumming inside her. Again.
>>70264601
>>70264622
>>70264334
>>70262581
>That episode of Omniverse where we find out calling them Sludgepuppies is equal to calling them niggers.
Ben is all like, excuse my ignorance and all was forgiven and shit resumed. Why can't it be this way irl?
i know it is late but... is the show worth watching? i mean, not for the boner?
>>70254056
The problem is that she looks like a generic adult woman from batman beyond
>>70264785
I'm on the final episode of the first series and it started out rough but got really legit. So I'd say that one is at least. Not sure about the rest yet.
>>70264785
It's alright.
>>70254850
this is honestly disgusting.
good lord.
>>70264785
>ben 10 is like dragon ball
>ben 10: alien froce is like dragon ball Z
>ben 10: omniverse is like dragon ball GT
there I hope that is helpful.
>>70262616
>"Okay, dweeb, I'm going to have to remove your pants, too, because, uh ... you might've been using them as a weapon. Also I'm going to blindfold you."
>>70263551
I wish there was more selfcest porn with her and young Gwen
>>70264989
Ben really shouldn't have thrown his wiener in her face
Also, whatever "it" is, Gwen sure looks like she wants it.
>>70264905
>50 Shades of Grey Matter
Giantess Fetish?
>>70264989
why was the first series so fun? plus I really like it when they come together and bond
>>70265175
>>70265125
>Giantess Fetish?
>>70251297
>>70264900
i was told the story isn't "finished" and there won't be a new season, is it true?
>>70262581
Prior to joining in on Ben's adventures and learning magic, the only combat "experience" Gwen had (that they mentioned) was karate class. What the hell kind of karate class teaches you to do backflips? Did she take gymnastics as well?
>>70265136
hardly seen her in this. this was from the final episode?
>>70265431it's not ice cream
>>70264601
You sure it's just not a "boys are stoopid"moment?
Seriously, it's like you people WANT it to be incestuous.
>>70264785
Kind of. Personally, I love shows like this when I'm unwinding after a hard day at school. They're stupid, and pointless, and childish, and silly, and quirky, and just all around great for relaxing and giving your mind a break. Don't go into it expecting a master piece, but it's certainly watchable, and on Netflix.
>>70265431why does this give me a boner?must be my fetish side awakening
>>70260255
>age ten
Seriously? Out of all of that post, that's what you focus on? I'm going to bed.
Oh, but before I go, 6 year olds have given birth. Look it up.
>>70265462it clearly says Ice Cream on the tub
>>70265458
Secret of the Omnitrix.
>>70265506
Yeah, I know what you mean man.
The inside of an RV is so fucking hot
>>70265237
kind of. I need to research that a bit.
>>70265237
Not sure, but ratings haven't been great, and I wouldn't be surprised. They lost a lot of viewers when they tried to make it darker and edgier in Alien Force and Ultimate Alien, and Omniverse hasn't had much luck in getting them back, despite getting back to its sillier roots.
>>70264754
cause niggers and faggots
>>70264785
Nope.
starts ok early on...get annoying as fuck later.
second series is dull as shit, third series is forgetful.
its a DC comics wannabe.
>>70265602
>>70265590
thanks. might make some art with Gwen like this.
>>70265792
>>70265523
it was a very rare case, if i remember well. They said she could give birth at 4 years old already.
>>70256082
I demand answers to whether this is fact. I'm very skeptical.
I honestly enjoyed the show when they were kids. But when they were made into teenagers, well, I couldn't like the show anymore. They were completely different characters from those they were when kids, which is what I enjoyed.
I was really hyped up as a kid when I saw the show and I liked to go to Cartoon Network website to play the flash game they had of Ben transforming into different aliens (and play Mega XLR). Those were fun times.
And I enjoyed the chemistry Ben and Gwen, it felt genuine as cousins. Only think I liked about the new series was that Kevin could absorb the property of objects and that is it. The new series was boring as fuck.
I love you guys. I needed to find pics from this show for art. it is best when it is accurate to the show.
so thank you very much
>>70265779
I really didn't like the explanation that she was just a fucking alien.
>>70265929
If you need screencaps.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jv4194m843twzmu/B10+images+and+Webms.rar
There's like 4000 images mostly screencaps from all the Ben 10 shows.
>>70265849
I already got this one. thanks again anon
>>70246859
k-ken? is dat you
>>70264150
well waddaya know.
>>70265779
>>70265590
>>70265458
>>70265224
I am pleased
>>70265929
wasn't this guy a FOTM?
>>70266045
Did that girl just rip off a metal pipe?
Holy shit that Anadite super human strength was relevant even in OS.
THEY HAVE SO MUCH CHEMISTRY!!!
Why didn't they get get together?? Why the fuck not???
At this point, being cousins is inconsequential!
>>70265929
>>70266045
Does any remember that thread where this guy was the OP image and the thread was about characters people found attractive? Also, what is the name if this guy?
>>70265901
>max's eye
>>70266045
>>70266092
acoording to the show she knows Tae kwon do....which is a martial art about kicking and leg work.
>>70266136
she so jelly and thirsty
>>70265972
damn son, thanks anon
>>70246536
>They changed her look because of all the porn being made of her
Is that the truth or just a rumor?
>>70266265
Pure bullshit.
I have the original series on dvd
any (specific) requests for screen caps?
>>70266329
got any caps of the RV. I been meaning to really map it out.
>>70264900
brand new art from samson!
>>70266379
which was better
>>70261258
>>70266254
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/jv4194m843twzmu/B10+images+and+Webms.rar
Grampa...we gotta tell ya something.
>>70266533
I've seen enough hentai and Gwen's alien encounters so i know where this is going.
>>70266525
Gwen redesigned by Tumblr and hosted on Gawker.jpg
>>70267520
I for one do not mind Gwen like this. fat, skinny, or muscular, it is still the Gwen that I know and love.
>>70245612
It's a regular brother/sister relationship. When you get close enough to a relative, be they direct kin or cousins, that shit tends to happen.
>>70267629
just like me in real lifedon't ask me about it
>>70254592
man, I know it was a brief scene but they even copied the same faces right next to the other.
>>70266244
isn't there a porn edit of this?
>>70263916
Ahhh, somebody help me!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB9BPOdmPU4
Lucy was clearly the best girl.
>>70266094
>reminds me of my own failures
;_;
>>70267629
So these two have been going at it even sooner?
>>70268205
well yeah, they're twins.
>>70268205
>>70267629
yeah it's all fun and games til your cousin misses her period and you get to explain to your parents and uncle about your relationship with herand also her younger sister
>>70268293
please tell me there is 34 of this
>>70268304
That's when you punch her square in the uterus a few times... maybe also push her down some stair to make sure it takes
>>70268398why would i do that when getting her pregnant was part of my keikaku
>>70268418
Since when did you start to believe you were on birth control?
>>70265462
Knowing Max it probably not
We all have that one cousin we'd fuck. Or sister, aunt, whoever
>>70268598
I would fuck pretty much all the women in my family.
>>70268889
including yourmother
>>70263395
>>70264237
>>70266136
So Gwen just hates other redheads moving in on her tref?
>>70268996
she passed away, but yeah.
>>70268328
I'm sure there will be now
>>70268598
You must admit, if you were stranded on a desert island and you had to pick one family member, there's gotta be someone that comes to mind.
>>70258324
I liked the original series because it's basically green lantern meets men in black meets ghost busters and the red head is a loli skully and ben moulder.
>>70260579
In America, all the growth hormones and other vitamins fed to live stock still has trace amounts in the cooked meat. As such girls are in fact going into puberty earlier, growing bigger and have large tits...same goes for boys...including the tits.
>>70260579
My little sister is 11 years old and looks like a 21 year old.
>>70269520
And you're just advertising this fact to random strangers on the Internet.
>>70267520
Don't be ridiculous, she has no pink hair.
>>70269544
Well, what ya gonna do? Everyone hopes their daughter is like a saint, but girls date eventually. It happens just like the fact she's going to die one day like anyone who is born into this world. Why waste life sweating the small stuff?
>>70269520
Damn son, you better hit that before it hits menopause at 15.
The one thing I would've liked to see is a episode of why they hated each other so much.
I know it would have been over something stupid but still. That and why Gwen is so scared of spiders. Most likely because of Ben
Why is Gwen the greatest loli in any fiction? Its baffling. Is it the red hair, or the attitude? I'm just sad that one day people will forget about Ben 10, and Gwen will go away.
>>70269929
>Why is Gwen the greatest loli in any fiction?
Whoa, let's not get ahead of ourselves here
>>70269909
Probably just stupid kid shit. They are 10, just starting to grow out of "the other gender is stupid" phase. So it's just probably a few years of being mean to each other and playing pranks on one another.
>>70264150
>>70264005
Yeah, that's what I was talking about.
I dunno, maybe the internet has corrupted us.
>>70270171
>Yeah, that's what I was talking about.
>I dunno, maybe the internet has corrupted us.
Of course it has...but that doesn't mean we're wrong.
>>70267013
Definitely 1
By the way, I hate bikinis on little girls...it's fucking creepy.
>>70270118
I know it just seems to have been pretty bad. An you know Max and their parents had to have planned it to get them to stop the fighting. Hell Gwen's parent's are most likely the master minds seeing as by the end of the show Gwen is living in the same naberhood in the same class no less.
>>70256082
He's drawing r34 in heaven now.
>>70270200
Same here on both points.
unless it the bikini bottom with the training bra like top. I don't mind that just not the standard on little kids
>>70270572
Like this
>>70246859
that is legal in Latin America
I think this might be a good time to post a link to my Ben10 Fan fiction.
http://hentai0verload.tumblr.com/post/112012804787/reposting-a-link-to-my-ben-10-fan-fiction
>>70245612
>>70270616
that looks more like teen gwen
good style though
>>70270807
Well it is but I was mainly just talking about the outfit
>>70267013
1 just like the colors.
tho I'm glad the hit the beach.
>>70254850
>>70270798
That's some cliche anime shit over here. And didn't the Native chick just want the knot and didn't give a fuck about Ben once he got "cured"? It's bullshit on several levels.
