>Two weeks later
>$320,000,000
Anyone worried?
>>64593533
It has already more than doubled its production budget. Why would anyone be worried about anything?
>>64593602
Advertising. Remember Amazing 2?
>>64593667
Unless the advertising was over 150 million. It's made that back too.
>>64593533
About what, the sequel is greenlit already.
Brb, going to put on the number 1 album in America.
>>64593667
They already announced GotG 2. Marvel gave Gunn a replica of the Orb for his birthday on a plaque that said, "That was a pretty good plan."
Just because Sony fucked up their advertising doesn't mean Marvel Studios is the same.
>>64593533
Has it been released in China yet?
>>64593667
>b-b-but advertising budget
I want /tv/ to leave.
I'll admit, this movie was my first look into this part of the Marvel Universe (the whole outer space stuff which I'm sure has a better name that I'm just not remembering).
Anyone got a good place to start reading it in the comics proper?
>>64593602
Not to forget that it's not out yet in other countries especialy europe.
>>64593533
Actually, $325,769,200, get in the HYPE TRAIN, nigga, you late.
>>64593533
Stupid question: Why is Drax green in all the art, but grey in the movie?
HOLY FUCK ONLY THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY BILLION DOLLARS IN TWO WEEKS WHAT THE FUCK HOOOLY SHIT MARVEL JUST GOT BLOWN THE FUCK OUTTTT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
there you go, op.
>>64593870
There's gotta be the reading list in one of these threads, it gets posted in every one.
>>64593870
The current Rocket Raccoon is really great so far.
>>64593908
Thank you.
Not a big Marvel guy but I've heard the Cosmic stuff is supposed to be really good.
>>64593830
Nah, but it'll be soon enough.
>>64593909
Look at this color blind faggot
Guardians isnt even out in a lot of countries yet
>>64593909
He had a green tint here and there, but probably went with grey to not confuse audiences.
It's not even out in a lot of major markets.
>GotG will easily make 1 billion
>>64593667
Generally, making double your budget puts you in the black.
>>64594041
How would that be confusing though?
>>64593830
October 10th.
>>64593533
It hasn't opened up in a lot of countries yet; most of the 320 mil is from the US.
>>64593667
Oh yeah? Go find out how much Guardians spent on advertising and then show us why it's a flop.
>>64594105
China has become quite a large market for these sort of films, expect a big box office gross there.
>>64594087
To prevent questions about Drax and Gamora being related. Although it's funny how it's now the opposite of how it was when Drax was green and Gamora was gray-but-slightly-green in Annhilation.
>>64594105
Why so late? The high quality pirates and DVDs/Blu-Rays might be out by than.
>>64594087
Maybe they'd think Drax and Gamora were the same species? They showed a lot of pink and yellow girls, I would think people assume they were the same. Sure Drax has red scar stuff, but you never know. Maybe if they were heavier with Gamora's yellow eye circles they'd have nothing to worry about.
>>64594116
>Domestic: $188,469,200 57.9%
>+ Foreign: $137,300,000 42.1%
>>64594250
Captain America isn't out on disc until September, we're not getting GotG for a while longer than that.
>>64593908
Is there an old school cosmic guide?
What should I read between the Avengers vs Thanos Trade and the Infinity Gauntlet Omnibus?
>>64594329
Well, he's still technically correct about most of the profit coming from the US.
>>64593533
Im pretty worried. I mean Disney keeps churning out these DBZ tier filler movies to just pave the way for one large popcorn film with barely any plot and just destruction porn and people keep buying tickets. It's pretty terrifying.
>>64594329
Which doesn't include Japan or China or France or Germany or a lot of other first world countries.
>>64594362
Wasn't trying to refute the claim, merely providing evidence.
>>64594378
You're in the wrong neighborhood, friendo.
>>64594378
>filler
If all you care about is Avengers why not just wait until AoU comes out?
Trying to cram too much mythology crap into one movie is how we get an IM2 all over again.
>>64593667
Never heard of Hollywood accounting?
It opens in China on October 10th. Once that happens, it'll shoot up. I mean, China is responsible for Transformers 4 breaking a billion.
>>64594514
I dont only care about Avengers that is the issue the other movies only have beginnings and middles with no ends. Also thinks like Iron Man tossing his heart keeping him alive and Cap dropping his priceless shield into the ocean.
>>64594554
JFC, somebody shoot me. I hate Bayformers.
I doubt it'll do more than $500 million in the end
>>64594687
I can see it making 600.
>>64594554
The Chinese won't like it.
It's too "wordy" for them.
>>64594734
Uh huh
>>64593533
Hope this shit makes than 400 mil
>>64594734
>The Chinese won't like it.
>
>It's too "wordy" for them.
More like the jokes won't translate well.
That's the main worry for GotG. That a lot of its selling point is the conversations, and that much of the jokes would be lost when subtitled or dubbed in other languages.
I mean, the Drax Metaphors probably would be entirely meaningless in Chinese or Japanese. Pure action films are better selling than funny movies in foreign markets for that reason.
Remember when everyone was saying TMNT was going to make more money its Pennington weekend?
>>64594416
Don't forget Jupiter. Jupiter hasn't seen the movie yet
>>64593908
So what do you read after this? For good or bad
>>64595983
I'm stilled bummed that it made $61 mil in its opening weekend though. Movie should've made $40mil
>>64594353
halp
>>64595838
>he Drax Metaphors probably would be entirely meaningless in Chinese or Japanese
Japanese are so literal they would just nod along with Drax and wonder about those weird things Starlord says.
Worried about what? The sequel was confirmed before it even released. Stop fucking caring about numbers that mean nothing to you.
>>64596523
This is all i could find
>>64594178
>>64594255
It was actually because of the Hulk, believe it or not. They wanted them to be more visually distinct.
Only evidence of an eventual meetup of GotG/Avengers at this point.
>>64594353
>>64593533
How come no-one at Marvel can draw a raccoon?
>>64593533
>record breaking opening
>sequel already greenlit
>incredibly high word of mouth
>only been out 2 weeks and not open in all markets yet
>only reason it's profits haven't been as high as they could be was because of TMNT, released a week afterwards, essentially a fluke
there's nothing at all to worry about.
>>64598140
It doesn't have tits.
I kind of figured this wouldn't be an uber money maker, at least not at this point, what with going against Bayturtles in it's second week. The new Expendables movie opens this Friday, this one being pg-13. That too will likely have a decent opening, further taking away from GotG.
Like others have said though, GotG 2 was already greenlit, so how much it makes from this point will only determine how much of a boost in the production budget the sequel will receive.
Or maybe it won't matter, Avengers 2 is likely to kill at the box office, and Marvel could funnel some of those profits into GotG 2, which is the keystone to further building up Thanos as a serious threat which will ultimately pay off in Avengers 3.
>>64598201Would you a Rocket with tits?
>>64598318I am Groot.
>>64593870
Read any and all Cosmic Marvel written by Dan Abnett.
You can tenderly love me later.
>>64598318
If she's basically Henriette Cooper but in spaceyes.
>>64598387Whoa man, just wanted to know if you'd do it, not a full description
>>64598745IamGroot.
>>64593909
I thought he was more blue/purple...
>>64598499
shouldn't but do
>>64596099
Was it that bad?
>>64593909
I thought he was a dark green in the movie. Like old school Army olive drab.
>>64598957
Ya'll niggas color blind. He was green and red.
>>64593533
>Anyone worried?
It's ten percent ahead of Winter Soldier's box office at the same point. So, no, not really.
>>64594062
No, a film needs to make at least triple it's initial budget in order to recoup advertising and licencing fees.
>>64593602
you NEED to double your production budget to make any money. studios get only a portion of the ticket sales
>>64599121
It's even beating bayformers
>>64597769
Not him, but I'd be very interested in a Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell) reading list, if anyone with some knowledge of the character can make one.
>>64593533
>caring this much about the money a capeshit movie makes
>a marvel studios movie
The movie is actually decent and it's confirmed to have a sequel, worry about other stuff fagget
>>64599275
CAN'T SHUN THE GUNN!
>>64593533
Damn shame Gamora didn't get a hood.
>>64594659
>Cap dropping his priceless shield into the ocean.
b...but he's got it by the end of the movie. When he wakes up to Trouble man it's in the lower left of the screen next to the bed.
>>64598830
I'm sorry, but that time I hid the shard of you under my tongue was NOT mutual.
>>64594659
>and Cap dropping his priceless shield into the ocean
Man-made lake feeding off of the Potomac river.
>>64593602
You're an idiot.
>>64599146
>>64599205
I swear, it's like you're making shit up just to have an argument.
>Guardians will make more than Man Of Steel they said
>This generations Star Wars they said
I dont even like MoS I just like it when /co/ and /tv/ are werong about this stuff
As long as it beats the box office grosses of the other first MCU movies, I'll be happy.
Do you guys think there will be a Directors Cut with a good portion of the 2 hours that was cut out?
>no dancing groot toy
So, if they switched stuff around for Cap 2 with his to-do list, are we going to get a few changes abroad?
Who's going to replace Kevin Bacon?
>>64601528
Depends on how finished those two hours were. In a high-CGI film like this it could be that it's just not worth filling in all the effects just for the DVD sales unless it's like LotR popular.
>>64601314
Man of Steel opened in June which is prime movie going season; Guardians opened in August, which isn't. Plus Man of Steel had a bigger opening weekend but comparing the days afterwards puts Guardians ahead.
If it remains in theaters as long as Man of Steel did, it should pretty close to making around the same amount of money at the box office while costing about sixty million less to make.
>>64601989
Plus Man of Steel had fucking Superman in it. That practically guarantees $400,000,000 at least
>>64596699
picturing a theater full of japanese nodding in agreement
>>64602095
There's that as well.
It really bothers me that Warner Brothers has dicked around with the franchise to the point where SUPERMAN is basically on par with Marvel's fourth or fifth biggest character. Clark deserves better than that.
>>64601989
In my small corner of the world at least, Guardians is getting some of the best word of mouth I've ever seen. Literally everyone I know who sees it is calling it amazing. I didn't get to see the movie for over a week after release because Guardians tickets were sold out at my local theater literally every day. And when I did see it, I bought he very last ticket.
>>64602126
Imagine the Shinto Temple they'll build in honor of Drax
>>64599146
so when it makes triple you're going to come back and say it actually needs to quadruple it right?
>>64602182
Its like that everywhere.
Except on 4chan where it is cool to hate anything popular.
I was really sad that i missed all the good GotG threads when the movie came out. By the time i finally saw it there was no threads and any threads were hating on it
>>64598830
L-lewd!
>>64595838
>More like the jokes won't translate well.
there's this wonderful thing called 'localization' where the translation team has a bit of leeway to change things that won't translate well to convey a similar idea to an audience unfamiliar with the concept being talked about
don't worry, they'll replace that Footloose joke with something the Chinese think is hilarious
>>64602338
But what will take the place of the great hero that is Kevin Bacon?
Well shit. Now I feel even more guilty about sneaking in tonight.
I already felt kinda bad about it but this thread makes it a lot worse.
PS: Can someone explain to me why exactly Ronan is so powerful (pre-power stone) ?
Isn't he just one member of the blue people race? The rest of them didn't seem nearly that powerful and yet he was tossing around Drax like Drax was a normal human
>>64602380
probably a great hero who is some aging Chinese actor
I did my part, I saw the movie three times (had a blast every time), and encouraged my friends and co-workers to see it.
And besides, what's there to be worried about? The film blew away everyone's expectations (except maybe for Marvel's marketing department), a sequel has already been confirmed, and James Gunn is probably going to direct a Thunderbolts movie now. What the hell more could you want?
>>64602398
The Kree have superhuman strength in general and Ronan is pretty strong even by their standards.
Plus Drax was drunk off his ass when he fought Ronan.
>>64602256
>Except on 4chan where it is cool to hate anything popular.
/v/, one of the boards with the most annoying hipsters in this site fucking loves the movie.
The only ones who hate GotG are /tv/
>>64593533
You do realize that in the US this movie is ahead of every other 2014 film, do you?
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?view=daily&id=2014openers.htm
You do realize that internationally it hasn't even opened in most of the major territories?
Yes, it's time to panic. The way things currently are working GotG will finish with over 300.000.000 at the US box office alone.
>>64601193
>not knowing the most basic of Hollywood economics
>>64602656
>you need to make double
>no, TRIPLE
>no, QUADRUPLE
>NO, QUINTUPLE
>NO ...
>>64601314
but it will make more than man of steel, bot domestical and international. Come back in a month when Marvel fags have yet another mile stone to celebrate
>>64602548
while I'm asking, what exactly makes Drax so powerful? (not that he seemed that powerful to be honest.. he came across as about equal to Groot, and I figured he'd be stronger)
but are you saying that most Kree are nearly as strong as Kree?
Cause even though they didn't show too many others, the few they did didn't seem nearly as strong as him.
To make a comparison, (and I'm not just saying this cause they both use hammers) it seems much like how even though all Asgardians are stronger than humans, none of them are nearly as strong as Thor (as you can tell from battles where they'll be struggling and he'll come in and take out entire armies by himself)
it seems like Ronan is the Thor of of the Kreem, but why? What makes him so special?
or is he not special and I just have it all wrong?
>>64602692
It's getting to the point that I just assume OP is a faggot until I'm proved wrongeven when I'm the OP
>>64602724
The only Kree in the movie was Ronan, his goons were Saakaran. Korath, who 616-wise is a Kree, was also a Saakaran.
Drax, in his Annihilation rebirth, essentially became Green Kratos. He cuts through anything because he has to, his sole purpose is to kill Thanos. I honestly think people wish he was a bit more RIP AND TEAR.Myself included.
>>64602692
No, the general rule of thumb is double the production budget.
The production budget doesn't cover advertisement costs, obviously, which can easily equal the production value and, in the case of blockbusters, often exceed it. Obviously each movie is its own individual case but the basic guideline for judging the economic success of a movie is based on its intake being twice the value of its production.
>>64602724
>what exactly makes Drax so powerful?
He's alien Batman.
>>64602786
There was a Kree representative who the Nova PRime called and asked to call Ronan off, and he was basically like "not my problem, later bitch" but I don't know how that guy could extrapolate power levels from that one conversation.
>>64602786
wait I thought all the blue people were kree.. I thought nebula was kree
>>64602814
>alien batman
wait wha?
I thought he was supposed to be more like a slightly weaker alien-hulk
in what way would he remotely compare to batman?
-no gadgets except his blades
-didn't seem like "the greatest martial arts expert ever" more of a smash/brawl type
>>64602724
In the comics, he was reborn and modified specifically to hunt down Thanos. In the movies, I think it's mostly training 24/7 in order to stroke that revenge boner
And Ronan is the Accuser, which, at least in the comics, basically makes him Thor for the Kree, he's basically the Inquisition all rolled into one terrifying dude and given a hammer that controls a shitload of cosmic energy. They don't really go much into what he did before the movie, so I'm just going to assume the MCU Accuser position is the same as the comic Accuser position.
>>64602836
>>64598441
>Dan Abnet
Is that where the term "DnA" comes from?
>>64602874
Yes
>>64602860his family is deeeadthat is a power source in comics
>>64601193
http://io9.com/5747305/how-much-money-does-a-movie-need-to-make-to-be-profitable
>The short answer is, it depends on a number of factors, but a rule of thumb seems to be that the film needs to make twice its production budget globally.
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/07/31/business/waterworld-disappointment-as-box-office-receipts-lag.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
>Studios only earn about half of a film's gross; the rest goes to theater owners
http://articles.latimes.com/1999/sep/08/business/fi-7832
>Only half of box-office receipts come back to the studio.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dorothypomerantz/2012/11/14/2012s-biggest-movie-turkeys/
>Keep in mind that to begin to even imagine breaking even a film needs to earn at least twice its production budget at the box office.
>tfw hope the sequel has Agent Venom in it
>remember Sony owns all things Spider-Man
>>64602879
>>64602874
Dan Abnet and Andy Lanning. D and A, DnA
Not just Abnet, feggits.
>>64602895
Just throwing this out there. On top of the fact that guardians seems to be pretty well at the box office and has great word of mouth, regardless of whatever it needs to make at the box office, the dvd sales are going to be good
because this movie has great replay value and word of mouth, so there's no doubt in my mind, they're going to do great
>>64602895
well it's done that
so shut the fuck up already
also when whoever said it was triple the budget said that they were fucking retarded
I'm pretty sure that's what he was complaining about
can you get off your fucking argument boner already
>>64602920
Flash Venom doesn't belong in space anyhow, retard.
>>64596091
You might read Hickman's Fantastic Four & FF, it touches upon some of these events, though it's mostly to retcon them, but it's not bad if you can swallow the indignity.
After that you have a couple Avengers Assemble that will give you a taste of how Bendis is going to ruin the GotG, followed by the actual ruining in his GotG series. Then there is Loeb's Nova, but fortunately that gets better when he leaves the book. There are also a few minis that are coming out right now.
>>64602945
Man I just want Venom in a movie that isn't shit.
>>64599275
it's worth noting that Gayformers only just barely cracked its huge bloated budget this week despite having been in theaters longer, while Guardians is already at 2x its budgetand looks better
>>64602920
>Agent Venom
>character with little to no cosmic/GotG history
>over Mantis, Warlock, Phyla, Moondragon, Cosmo, Bug (impossible), Jack "I hate Cosmic stuff" Flagg and even fucking Dick Rider
No.
>>64602836
No. She's blue because comics. Hell, she claimed to be Thanos's granddaughter in the comics, and that fucker is an Eternal. >>64602824 This guy is right though, the one that told Cruella to fuck off was also Kree but he's a office chimp.
Yondu isn't Kree at all, he's space Indian, feather not dot, but they changed him to space redneck because it would've been too close to Avatar. The other blue guys on Yondu's team weren't Kree because they looked like they had fur, they're something else.
>>64603056
I want this scene. I want muh green Vietnamese Madonna.
Forgive me for being a pleb but why does the Guardian's roster change? I've only read the Annihilation origin,
>>64603128
Change compared to what?
>>64594378
DCCU Inferiority Complex detected
>>64603110
indians(feather not dot) are just like rednecks, heavy smoking, truck driving, alcoholics, with mullets.
>>64603140
I meant in the comics.
From Bug,Mantis,the psycho bitch that's killed of early, and the guy with the sentient power source to the team with Gamora and Drax.
>>64602724
>while I'm asking, what exactly makes Drax so powerful?
In the comics, he was a spirit given an artificial body in order to kill Thanos but in the film he just seems to be a particularly strong alien that happens to be good at killing people.
>>64602724
>but are you saying that most Kree are nearly as strong as Kree?
In the comics, the Kree are much stronger than humans. It might not be that way in the MCU since the only other Kree we saw was the one talking to Nova Prime though Ronan being as strong as he was makes it likely.
>it seems like Ronan is the Thor of of the Kree, but why? What makes him so special?
Depending on his backstory in the MCU, Ronan is basically the Royal Executioner of the Kree Empire so that hammer he's lugging around is a particularly powerful weapon.
>>64603042
transformers is 14th overall worldwide. over a billion dollars. i don't think they're worried. GOTG is still better of course and may eventually make more money, but lets not kid ourselves.
>>64603166
Mantis stayed behind on mission control and Bug was considered a bit too much of a loser. That particular Captain Universe lost his powers after the Star-Lord mini and died.
When Star-Lord formed the Guardians for the first time, he decided to grab pretty much everyone who participated in Conquest and didn't have prior commitments - that means Rocket and Groot from his old strike team, plus Phyla, Adam, Drax, and Gamora.
>>64602786
Less green kratos more riddick from pitch black but with a power increase.
Which makes vin diesels refusal to play the part all the more mindboggling. It's litterally the part that was tailor made for him. It's like nick fury sam jackson.
>>64603175
I think the main question I'm dancing around is Would other kree be able to kick Drax's ass so easily? or is Ronan just special?
>>64603445
Ronan is special
>>64603445
Ronan, in the comics, anyway, is a Kree Accuser - he's been enhanced to the point where he's stronger than most others of his kind. He's not insanely strong, but he's about on par with Ben Grimm, and that hammer of his is essentially a small-scale reality warper on a stick.
The Ronan in the movie is a fair bit weaker (though it's hard to really say, given that he rarely went all-out and he was high on Power Stones most of the time) but if Comics Ronan is any indication, he's likely a ways above the norm.
>>64603560
Thanks for the good post.
If Ronan is on Ben Grimm's level, what level would that put Drax on? (considering Drax looked helpless against him even before he got the powerstone)
captain america level? Going into the movie I thought Gamora would be like a captain america version of black widow and drax would be at least ben grimm level
very surprised to see drax getting tossed around that easily
>>64603618
Drax was bulletproof, wasn't he? He got shot by those robot things. Overall, I don't think the movie was too concerned with powerlevels. Gamora seemed about as strong as Peter but with a lot more hand to hand skills, but then she could cut Groot's arms of with one swipe. But then later Groot is shown to be immune to most projectiles.
>>64603665
I'm not sure Groot feels pain the way we do. Those projectiles went into him, but he probably ignored them. It's more about where he was hit. Much like you can shoot a tree in the trunk and it won't do very much to it, but you can bring a machete down on a branch and it will fall off.
>>64603618
Drax in the comics varies a lot in strength. At his greatest height, he's about as tough as the Hulk, but shortly before Annihilation, he underwent a transformation that restored most of his intellect but made him a fair amount weaker. After that point, he seems somewhere in the area of "stronger than Spider-Man, weaker than Thor" - definitely superhuman and tougher than anything a normal person can throw at him, but not to the point where he can tank everything.
Movie Drax seems... yeah, Cap level is about right.
As for Gamora, I think that sword of hers might've been a factor.
>>64603713
There's no way a human can cut off a tree branch with one swing of a small sword. Well, maybe a thin branch, but nothing as thick as Groot's arms.
>>64599205
They get about 90% of initial weekend box office sales, that's quite a fucking bit.
>>64603734
Pretty sure it wasn't a normal sword.
I'm only worried that this will encourage Marvel to keep churning the same cookie cutter "shitty villain, barely a plot, very jokey" formula movies. On the positive side this will encourage them making more risky movies.
>>64603734
no real sword but this is movie logic we're talking about.
I could easily see a non-supehuman samurai movie that showed a guy slicing an entire tree trunk with one strike.
That's just movie logic concerning swords
The logic goes something like: Anything non metal can be sliced in one strike, and if the sword is magic, ancient/legendary, or created by a grand master then even metal will become 1 strike
I'm reminded of the batman animated series episode where batman fought a ninja that once trained with him in his young days, and the guy chopped down a water tank in like one strike per leg or something
>>64603752
That's why opening weekends are so open for studios; the share kept by theater owners increases as time goes by. Over the lifetime of a film's run, the general rule is that it averages out to be a roughly fifty-fifty split between studios and theaters.
>>64603618
I think power levels get really fucking wonky in Cosmic, especially here.
Like, Drax ripping that security drone in the Kyln. You saw the extremis soldiers tearing apart the various suits in IM3, but the drones were made with alien technology in an alien superprison, so they're probably tougher than Iron Man's suits.
Same with Gamora, she doesn't do anything outstanding impressive, but when you consider the shit she's been through and how that's probably hit a lot harder than Earth shit would, she's a lot stronger than the film might initially imply.
>>64603883
It's also quite likely that Star-Lord in the movie is mildly superhuman. He's specifically noted as having a different physiology than a normal person, and he has a resistance to the Power stone.
>>64593821
what? sauce?
what was the "plan" exactly?
>>64599451
I case you're still here, or the thread is still here when you're back, or it isn't but you check the archive, I'll try to come up with something. The good thing about Mar is that he's pretty much self-contained.
But it'd just a chronological list, can't really tell you anything about whether it's good or not.
- Untold Legend of Captain Marvel #1-3 (a flashback miniseries from 1997)
- Marvel Super-Heroes #12-13 (an anthology series, mostly reprints, but it's where Cap M. first appeared, late 1967)
- Captain Marvel #1-21 (1968 series)
- Avengers #89-97 (Kree-Skrull War, pretty good shit for it's time)
- Captain Marvel #22-57 (with some gust apearences here and there, but nothing big to my knowledge)
- Avengers #172-177 (the second half of Korvac Saga, if you want to read the whole of it, it started in #168)
- Cap M. #58-62 (the series gets canned)
- Marvel Spotlight #1-4 (1979 series)
- Incredible Hulk #245-248 (something about the planet K'ai)
- Marvel Spotlight #8
- Marvel Graphic Novel: Death of Captain Marvel
Also, his son, Genis-Vell, PAD had some fun with him in the late 90s/early 00s. He first appeared in a few cosmic stories in Silver Surfer's title, a miniseries called Cosmic Powers, and even had his own miniseries, all in 1994-1996, but it's the 1999 series when the wild ride starts:
- Captain Marvel #1-35 (1999 series. It got restarted because PAD and Bill Jemas got a wager about who's funnier. Google U-Decide if you want to learn more)
- Captain Marvel #1-25 (2002 series)
- Thunderbolts #1-18 (2005 series, where he changes his name to Photon, among other things)
Also-also, since it's a pretty good read and one of the better parts of Secret Invasion (well, at least I think so)
- Civil War: The Return
- Captain Marvel #1-5 (2008 series)
He was later semi-important in Secret Invasion, but it was shit, so you don't have to read it.
>>64593928
>BILLION
>>64602735
Shit, nigger, that should be the first thing you learn here.
Was the marketing budget really that big? All they had to do was slap "You're Welcome" on a poster and let the internet do the rest. I can't really tell how big of a marketing presence anything has since I don't watch TV and use adblock on the net.
>>64601989
>while costing about sixty million less to make.
really?
shit
it's practically a low budget film. or was that just super low salary for the actors?
>>64602164
amen to that anon
a superman movie should be breaking a bil everytime, he's SUPERMAN. WB doesn't know how to handle their shit, I pity DC.
>>64601931
how would we make it known we REALLY REALLY want an extended cut with everything removed added back?
>>64598140
What the hell's a raccoon?
>>64593889
What are you smoking?
>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2015381/releaseinfo?ref_=tt_ov_inf+
>>64602164
>>64604696
>"the next Star Wars" flops
>marvelfags pick on DC to feel better
Every time.
>>64604557
It's a reference to peters 12% plan in the movie
>>64595838
They translated pretty well in Finnish. They just changed the subtitles to mean something equivalent.
>>64596699
Actually, a lot of japanese humor i've seen is about interpreting figures of speech. Like, someone would make an allusion to folk lore that just so happens to be literally relevant or something pike that. Its hard to explain obviously because i'm not a native speaker but i think the japanese would actually find drax funny if he was voiced in a certain way. Tone and cadence is what japanese really counts on in interpreting meaning.
>>64604774
I'm 280lbs with a really small peanut and I can't penetrate my girlfriend who is 330lbs. When we are intimate it involves her talking nasty to me while I jack off my tiny idiot dick. I squeeze her tits while I jack off. Sometimes I cum on her but not usually because we are really lazy and she doesn't want to have to clean it up. We are both going to die soon. Bye.
>dvd sales still to come
>merchandising
>>64604847
By the same token you can't gauge the expenses simply by the production costs. There's all sorts of advertising, distribution, and whatnot.
>>64602164
What's even worse is that WB had the idea of a cohesive cinematic universe years before Marvel did. They've had Superman vs. Batman and Justice League movies planned before, with the intent of giving members their own spinoff movies. But WB and DC spent so much time fucking around and not getting anything done that Marvel not only beat them to the punch but have firmly rooted themselves as the big superhero movie company. WB is finally getting around to this but it might be too little too late, and time will tell if they can even keep this up.
>>64604829
What worries me is that Jap shows usually emphasize that a joke happened.
Like
>Char a does absurd thing
>Char B: "Why did you do thing? That absud thing to do?"
Hopefully the non- dialogue jokes like the whole prison scene makes them happy
>>64604855
People are already doing that.
>>64604696
>it's practically a low budget film. or was that just super low salary for the actors?
low salary i'd guess, marvel has been pretty good at choosing actors who aren't big names yet. cooper and diesel were probably cheap since they were just voice roles, saldana was likely the most expensive of the lot
>>64604861
Also, DC's timing seems dangerously close to the point the comic-movie bubble bursts.
>>64604901
>comic-movie bubble bursts.
>Been happening since the 40s
I think it's a fad. But I don't think the fad's dying real soon or anything, I think that cosmic marvel was a real stretch to try and bring to audiences and frankly I'm surprised it was as well received as it has been.
I don't get why people say capeshit wlll go away,
Its about toys for children.
that will never go away
Its kinda like how all movies had video games back in the late 90's 2000's.
>>64604952
So when do we get movies about video games?
I'm getting old and the new games are mostly mediocre/shit stories.
>>64604980
We're getting Assassins Creed, Splinter Cell, The Last of Us and Warcraft movies
>>64604863
>Char A: He must be suffering from a trauma.
>Char B: HURR DURR WHAT'S A TIGERHORSE? (tora=tiger uma=horse)
>>64605002
So I'm going to die before I get good ones?
>>64605022
They made a Monkey Island movie years ago
>>64605018
>Weebs put subs on the jap version.
>TL notes. TL notes everywhere
>>64604696
>>while costing about sixty million less to make.
>really?
>shit
>it's practically a low budget film. or was that just super low salary for the actors?
Guardians cost $170 million to make while Man of Steel cost $225 million, which is still cheaper than Superman Returns since that film got stuck with the bill for all the failed attempts between Superman IV and Returns.
>>64605002
I doubt it.
If we do what the fuck kinda train wreck fucked a Halo movie from ever happening.
>>64601989
>B-but the prime movie season
I recommend getting a prescription butt cream, I don't think the over-the-counter stuff will help you.
>And Guardians will be more profitable to Marvel Studios even if less people actually watched it, so there!
Do the people saying this stuff actually own Disney stock, or do they just personally identify with a corporation to the point that they feel vindicated by minor increases in their net income?
>>64605002
>there will never be a movie about The World Ends with You, the original Deus Ex, or anything that would actually be fun to see on screen.
Can't we like both Marvel and DC films?
Does /co/ really hate fun this much?
>>64605140
>There will never be a trilogy of Suikoden:War of the Runes
>>64605155
This makes me really sad.
>>64605148
>liking two things
>>64604861
>>64604901
>I want DC to die
>>64605148
Marvelfags will NEVER like DC. It's forbidden in their religion.
>>64605052
>watching shit subs
However, in this case there's really nothing else you can do for the sub watchers. I can't think of any way you can interpret "tiger horse" as something that can sound like "trauma". Nor can you do so with whatever possible synonyms for tiger and horse you could find.
ah yes, Marvel fuckboys always turn this around and start bashing DC, now i dont feel bad for sneaking into Guardians
and i actually paid to watch TMNT
stay salty my friends
>>64605155
>There will never be a live action Rance porn parody
>>64605140
>>64605155
>there will never be a Baldur's Gate trilogy. Or a game as good as Baldur's Gate II.
>>64605148
i like good movies. dc hasn't made one in a while.
i wish they'd just give up on avengers and make a doom that came to gotham movie
>>64605202
>liking rtwp
>>64605184
I'm a Marvelfag, but I still like some DC stuff. The thing is, I haven't read DC in a long time and can't find a good point to start from again.
>>64605092
>>64604696
$170 million is almost double the average spend.
If you can't make a movie for that much money because of your unholy acting talents, you need to give up. Warner Bros. of course inherited its current budget practice from New Line Cinema, after the problems over there.
>a superman movie should be breaking a bil everytime, he's SUPERMAN.
Only one Superman movie has ever made that much, and that was in 1978. (it was actually $300m but is around a billion at today's money). Superman II marginally outsold Man of Steel. The next nearest was Superman Returns, which made what would be somewhere around $450m today (on an insane budget, much of which was money paid to Nicolas Cage for not being used in a movie, but also probably a lot of historical legal costs associated with returning the Superboy element of the rights to WB). Warner Bros. didn't make the first two movies- they didn't even have global distribution rights to them.
>>64604722
It's not out in China, which has been a huge market for this type of film lately.
>>64605128
$60 million is a minor thing to you?
Why would you possibly have time to post on 4chan? Quick, go make some wealth before the economy stalls and you lose everything!
>>64605128
Going by the ticket sales after the first weekend, Guardians is going to have pretty close to the same number of people going to see it if it doesn't beat out Man of Steel altogether.
Guardians actually made more at the box office in its second weekend.
>>64605052
>>64605190
Woops. I meant they take the Jap version of GotG then sub it for autism.
>>64605184
>DC moviefags will NEVER like Marvel. It's forbidden in their religion.
Also part of the DC moviefags religion is that anyone saying anything bad about any DC movie, you are a Marvelfag.
>>64604829
Japan loves wordplay, due to the way the writing system works and you can have an entirely different meaning depending how you read certain kanji, etc.
>>64605194
>Rance
>porn parody
How the fuck will that work?
>>64605220
>being this plebeian
>>64605253
I know, right, how can anyone be enough of a pleb to like RTWP?
>>64593533
the movie has not come out in a lot of places in europe yet so just wait and see
>>64605273
Go play your Final Fantasy, kid. Adults are talking.
>>64596091
Read the Infinity stuff:
Thanos Quest
Infinity Gautlet
Infinity War
Infinity Crusade
Infinity Abyss (it sucks)
Marvel: The End
Thanos: Epiphany & Samaritan
>>64605315
>making shitty strawmen
A pretty good example of your average RTWP fan's reasoning, really.
>>64605227
>$170 million is almost double the average spend.
That seems the going rate for a Marvel movie that doesn't have Iron Man actually; Winter Soldier, The Dark World, and Guardians of the Galaxy all came in around that.
Green Lantern was the cheapest of the three big DC films and even it cost $200 million (which is roughly what the second two Iron Man films cost), which is quite a bit less than Man of Steel's $225 million (roughly the same as The Avengers) and a lot less than Dark Knight Rises, which cost $250 million to make according to the LA Times and that's even after considerable tax breaks.
>>64594008
Don't you even joke about that shit, I legit had problems differentiating people's skin tones in this movie because I'm red-green color blind. It was weird talking to my friends about it after.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6214496/guardians-of-the-galaxy-soundtrack-no-1-billboard-200
The movie has helped make the music pretty goddamn popular again. The movie has definitely worked its way into people's brains, so that's good. It won't be forgotten.
>>64605273
So what kind of games do you like then?
>>64605360
Turn based or real time. Not some shitty amalgamation of the two.
>>64605155
Stop depressing me.
>>64593861
Fun fact, "Return of the Jedi", "Forrest Gump" and "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix" have all failed to go into profit due to "advertising" and "overhead costs".
>>64605371
>Odessa is dead.
>Flik never learns to love again.
>Everything Viktor had was taken by Neclord.
>After his revenge he adventures with no real objective, not sure what to do with his life.
>The bastard king of Harmonia never pays for his crimes.
>Tuta is a guy
>>64605376
Those are all situations where they're trying to screw somebody out of money though and everybody knows it.
>>64605370
While the gameplay in BG series could use some tweaks, it still has some of the best characters, music and atmospheres in gaming. Also the story is just that fucking good.
>>64603883
/tg/ here, I'm trying to follow along so would a good metaphor be that cosmic marvel is like epic level DnD? It feels like the same game because everything scales but instead of goblin hordes you're fighting cosmic terrors en masse and your character is leagues above anything else.
>>64604878
>Reading Bendis' GoTG
The trash is right where it belongs
>>64594659
>heart keeping him alive
You're an idiot, he got the shrapnel removed.
>>64602581
we love anything that isn't video games
>>64594659
>Also thinks like Iron Man tossing his heart keeping him alive and Cap dropping his priceless shield into the ocean.
How do these simple popcorn movies manage to fly so far over your head?
>>64605410
>implying hollywood execs are at any point not trying to screw people out of money
If a movie is a success, someone will not get their piece of the pie. Someone will get screwed over, even if it's just the irs.
>>64605440
Good analogy, but not entirely accurate. There are a lot of cosmic marvel heroes like Nova and (appropriately) the GotG who aren't necessarily all that tough in relation to some Earthbound superheroes, and they cruise around having spacecop-and-spacerobber adventures and getting involved in interplanetary wars between mostly-mortal alien races. A lot of the BIG shit in the Marvel Universe is out in space, though--like Galactus, the Phoenix Force, the Eternals, Thanos, etc.--and cosmic characters probably bump into them more often on average, while the Earth heroes called upon to deal with those threats are similarly the top-tier kinds of folks. For my money, though, the bigger threats in Marvel, on par with epic-level D&D, aren't from space but from other dimensions/realms, like Thor and Doctor Strange villains.
>>64605542
Okay I think I got the power levels set then but I'm little confused on Asgard now. In the MCU is it another dimension? I was under the impression it was a planet with a few others under its control.
>>64605512
Well, yeah, but those are particularly egregious cases of it. Nobody takes Paramount's claims that Forrest Gump didn't make money seriously for instance; the only reason they say that is because Winston Groom is entitled to a percentage of the net.
>>64605567
All the realms, afterlives, dimensions, fringe spaces, pasts, futures and alternate realities are a bit complicated. It also doesn't really matter.
You can think of Asgard as another dimension, it won't necessarily be correct, but it is as good a working theory as any.
>>64605148
We can, DC just hasn't made many good movies with respect to Marvel
>>64598830
>>64605611
Right that's fair enough, thanks bud /co/ is mad helpful with this stuff. You don't usually get that on 4chan, I dig it.
>>64605148
>Can't we have both good Marvel and DC films?
>Does /co/ love eating shit this much?
Sorry, that was the /v/tard in me. However i loved Batman films at one point. I really enjoyed BB and TDK was a great sequel - not as perfect but new and it had fresh ideas. However, DC only made trash after TDK hit billions. Jonah Hex, Green Lantern, TDKR, Man Of Steel ... the list goes on and on and all i want are good DC films. I hope they deliver on any of the 10 upcoming films. It's not that hard making at least a good film. I mean look at Marvel... i was fed up with all the Stupid SpiderMan3/GhostRider/FantasticFour trash and couldn't care less about Marvel films. But suddenly they creat their Studio/Universe and overtake DC in the blink of an eye. Marvel does awesome and i wish for DC to do the same, but they have turned into fuck ups.
>>64605584
That's my point. Citing advertising budgets and such in an attempt to discredit a movies success is idiotic since those inflated budgets don't mean anything. The whole game is just about getting net profits down. Why else would advertising budgets not be disclosed?
>>64605646
/co/ is love. [/spoiler] There, i said it. Come at me fagets.
>>64605726
Whoops, i dun spoiler goofed. how embarrassing.
>>64605726
I like /co/. It's the only board i frequently visit these days. /v/ became horrible, /tv/ is even worse. I hope /co/ won't be the next.
>>64605735
I ain't even mad at you, you're a helpful motherfucker.
>>64605769
Not to derail but there's some nice bits on /v/ every now and again. It's a board of extremes, threads are either the worst thing ever or mad fun. The new Five Nights with Freddie threads are fantastic though and so is the game.
>>64605784
/v/ is like trying to find a gem in a sea of shit. It's just not worth finding that gem.
>>64605784
There was a time i liked going to /v/ but it's the console wars that got too annoying. It's always the same arguments, day in and out. No reason whatsoever.
>Nintendrones, Sonyggers, Sales, Charts, Reddit. You are Neogaf. NO YOU ARE NEGAF. Those are not games, THESE are the only true games! What, you don't like game X? Look at this retard not acknowledging the sheer quality of my favorite kids games.
The only winning move is not to go there.
>>64605890
I personally find the shill talk a lot more annoying than the console wars. EVERYONE on there is a shill if you don't talk positively about Valve, Dark Souls or other circle jerky shit.
>>64605890
Sounds just like /co/. For real though, no matter which board you are on, people are always trying to trash the "real" worst board.
